Steam Deck OLED = 👌

[@jc74435]

When you set it to 45fps at 90hz, if you get a missed frame, because the refresh rate is high, there is less time until the next frame is refreshed, so less frame time. It smoothes out the hiccups, when compared to 45fps in a 45hz container in the old steam deck

[@cloudGGs]

If this is true, this is huge. Do you have a source ?

[@jc74435]

@@cloudGGs yes, it was on a digital foundry video where they were discussing this. Let me see if I can find it

[@filt3rless]

I did notice the responsiveness feels a lot better. I struggled with the latency on the LCD model, especially in the 40FPS range. On this it's very playable. I'll have to do further tests soon, this was more just an initial impressions type video.

[@jc74435]

@@cloudGGs check the digital foundry video called "Steam Deck Gets Even Better: 40-60Hz Support, VRS, Refined Acoustics - Tested" after minute 12:20. They said that the drawback of decreasing the refresh rate of the deck to 40hz to cap the fps to 40 was the increase in frame time when a frame was skiped, compared to 30 fps at 60hz. So now it will no longer have this problem, because now we have an even faster refresh rate, so we can run 40 fps at 80 hz or 45 fps at 90 hz.

[@Prolyfyk]

​@@jc74435Yep. Frame doubling at 45 and frame tripling at 30 😊

[@jc74435]

The Oled SD is a beast in battery life. Mine will arrive on Monday

[@filt3rless]

You will definitely like it a lot! For older emulation it's perfect too. I was playing Golden Sun and it felt like a big GBA with an amazing screen (and even better battery life).

[@simsationelle]

I jjust got tracking info for mine ! Cannotttt wait

[@fivestarboy1]

Mine arrives Thursday :( I ordered it on the 18th it’s taking a long time I can be patient tho

[@DanonD1337]

Same here, ordered mine on the 18th and mines coming in the same day as yours! I saw people get theirs like 2-3 days after they ordered. I ordered the Limited Edition though so I'm super stoked about it!@@fivestarboy1

[@mcride9773]

Mine on Wednesday! How you enjoying yours so far?

[@Ballfade90]

Got mine yesterday. My ally is now just my work/gamepass device. Also, I was amazed at the similar performance of the deck compared to my ally @18w

[@spoiler9112]

Why is it I keep reading that people use the ally as a game pass device when the SD can easily do it?

[@Phil_529]

@@spoiler9112 How does the SD easily do it? Dual boot into windows?

[@Ballfade90]

@spoiler9112 don't feel like installing windows, and I don't want to stream it. Can't wait till can have gamepass on deck locally, w/o windows.

[@spoiler9112]

@Phil_529 NO need to install Windows! Simply search KZbin for instructions! Easily launched from the non-steam section. It is streamed though.

[@CJTheTokay]

@@Phil_529just found a video of someone getting Xbox game pass on the steam deck no windows required

[@BenVaanDel]

YES this is how you do a video, thank you! Ive seen SO many deck OLED videos of people just reading from a fact sheet acting like people cant just go on the website and read it themselves.. Your video actually shows real life tests of battery drain, fps, temperatures etc.. Well done sir!

[@AB_223]

I’ve watched countless Deck OLED videos this past week but yours definitely is the best when it comes to real world look and usage. I was tossing up between the new Deck and the Ally but this definitely pushed me to the OLED. Thanks! 👍

[@SmartFool24]

I’ve had my Oledeck for about 5 days now and honestly if the original Deck released like this, the Ally wouldn’t have been able to launch without some major improvements imo. I know I probably wouldn’t have ended up getting the Ally but it still has its sweet spot which is plugged in on the couch, at the desk at work, on a plane but mainly running anything but plugged in with superior performance. If the Ally had 60wh battery and a version of the Z1E that performed as powerfully and efficiently at low TDP as the deck, then that would be the superior device. Either way I’m excited to see what the Ally and Deck look like next generation.

[@100Jim]

Great job

[@SaveHerbert]

How do you get away with the Ally at the desk at work? 🤔 Asking for a friend 😂

[@Rhomagus]

2:25 Dude! Thank you for explaining that. I thought I was going to have to RMA my limited edition Deck. Such an easy fix.

[@chariothe9013]

Thanks for mentioning virtual menu, one feature that is now easier to use thanks to extra input methods on steamdeck. Many youtubers don't mention about it and people are wondering what's the purpose of those trackpads.

[@hectorchacon1956]

This video help me pick the oled steam deck went with the 1 tb ❤thanks for your time and effort much appreciated liked and a sub earned

[@xXYannuschXx]

2:25 A little heads up: the fps cap / screen refresh rate slider can be seperated again under the display settings. I needed to do that to fix the latency issue with PCSX2.

[@FSAPOJake]

I had an LCD Steam Deck. Got an Ally at launch and ended up selling the LCD deck because the screen on the Ally was just so much better. Plus I play plugged in most of the time so bumping up the wattage to get extra performance at the expense of battery life didn't bother me. When the OLED deck was announced, I told myself I wouldn't get one because I wouldn't want to give up the extra performance, extra resolution and VRR of the Ally. Then I tried out my friend's OLED deck, and man. It's seriously tempting. That screen is just so nice, even with the lack of VRR and a lower resolution. Just seeing it makes me want one, but again, I don't know if I would be able to give up the VRR and extra performance + game compatibility. When my friend and I were trying both devices, even at 15w the Ally tended to perform better, but I noticed that games loaded more quickly on the Deck, at least when loading to the main menu. Windows just has bloat that SteamOS doesn't have to deal with.

[@filt3rless]

That's a tough one! I love the Ally for the raw power, VRR, and 1080p display. But the deck provides that 'console'-like experience, and quick resume is one of the best features, in my opinion. Losing game compatibility is a big one, though. I can't get Black Ops 3 Zombies or Grid Legends working on the SD. However, I have a gaming PC and use Moonlight to stream the games to the SD, getting around 10 hours of battery doing that. If I didn't have a gaming PC, though, I think the Ally would still be my choice just because it can play the latest titles well and has broader compatibility, Game Pass, etc. One thing I did find on the SD OLED is that setting a 45FPS cap works great. It keeps the display at 90Hz, so if it dips below 45FPS, it's not as noticeable as it would be on the LCD model. And just an FPS cap will automatically pull the watts down. No need to set a TDP cap, which I really enjoy. To me, it's a much less 'tinker' device and is more of a 'just play' device.

[@adgeifc]

The internal cooling actually is brand-new redesign

[@HalfDayHero]

The LCD screen was what stopped me buying a Steam Deck. The fact they released an LCD version when something such as the Switch OLED has been on the market for so long already was a colossal goof IMO. My Steam Deck OLED arrives tomorrow :)

[@filt3rless]

You're going to love it :). I stopped using my LCD version a long time ago because the screen was unbearable to me. Having the new OLED and extra battery life has really brought the system back to life for me.

[@Trainer_Orange]

Insane batterylife is also my experience. 45 fps Dredge gives me 6 hours of batterylife haha.

[@filt3rless]

I just bought Dredge, looks pretty fun. Glad to know it'll get great battery life 😊

[@switchunboxing]

I want an Ally or Legion Go but dang this video makes me wanna go with the Deck!!! That battery life sells it, coming from the Switch. But I need to play Palia and LEGO Fortnite! Plus this thing doesn’t have removable controllers and the stick/button layout looks awkward.

[@filt3rless]

It's definitely going to come down to what games you're playing and how important battery life is. I think for me the Ally can push more power, but at 25+ watts it gets around 1 hour. With the Steam Deck I frequently see 3-4 hours, or even 6+ in lighter games making it a much more "handheld" experience IMO. It's a really tough choice!

[@jinx20001]

yep been using the OLED 2 days now... its astonishing honestly, the efficiency and battery life is something else. As an ally owner i will say there are some games i absolutely do think look better on the ally due to the lower resolution of the deck... cult of the lamb for example i think just looks better on ally, the deck is a shimmery mess at 800p... but then ill play a game like tetris effect on the deck oled and have my eyeballs blown out of my head by the clarity OLED brings at an individual pixel level... the deck oled has honestly made me end my 6 month ally relationship. Ally has some nice features ofcourse but its ultimately not as refined as deck even when not comparing displays. Good to see regular Ally content makers giving other handhelds the time of day, handhelds are handhelds at the end of the day and were in a great time for handheld gaming whatever you own.

[@filt3rless]

It is absolutely amazing how long it lasts. It's the only portable system I've owned recently where I don't feel the need to check battery percentage frequently. Another thing that's nice is when you set an FPS cap on the SD, it's really good at lowering the watts down. On something like the Ally, it'll still eat up the power. I like both though for different reasons and will be keeping the Ally as it's a beast in AAA games and allows me to play/do anything with it. But the OLED is great for picking up and just playing for a few minutes (which is all I have time to do currently).

[@jinx20001]

@@filt3rless yup totally agree, i know what you mean about it sipping power when capping fps. I also like how easy it is to lower down or higher the wattage by 1 watt at a time in just 2 seconds… so easy to find a sweet spot for games instantly instead of setting up profiles. I was also playing sonic mania earlier with pretty high brightness and getting back it reporting over 8 hours battery remaining, I was like what is this wizardry. Valve know how to work that magic sauce that’s for sure. Absolutely the ally still has its place though. FYI my deck oled left analogue stick clicks a little when I move it to, but I also had this on the ally sticks aswell, the deck sticks seem tighter with less play, definitely better sticks but yeh thought I’d let you know mine make that sound aswell, well my left one does.

[@Jay-fl2vy]

Yeah it made me give up my ally to. This oled screen is making cyberpunk look amazing

[@rcmp09]

You can set the steam deck to run the game at a higher resolution such as 1080/1200p or 1440/1600p and it will down sample the image to the steam deck's native resolution. It removes most aliasing in games and the image is super crisp.

[@Daogchannel1]

Yeah I sold my ROG Ally for the Steam Deck OLED after having my Ally for 6 months. I realized the Ally just didn't really do it for me as I found myself gravitating towards my gaming PC since I felt like the Ally was just an inferior version of my Gaming Desktop. Why deal with windows on a touch screen when I have a windows desktop that will give me a much better experience? That made me realize how much I missed my Steam Deck because it just has so much more personality to it. Once the OLED got announced I was so happy because that meant the Steam Deck now fixed the issues I had with the LCD Screen (terrible backlight, dull colors, terrible touch responsiveness, 60hz, etc). Can't wait to fall in love with the Steam Deck all over again

[@Jankylulu]

Dude your videos are awesome as usual! I just ordered the OLED a couple of days back (as you suggested the gloss screen 512 model) I like my Ally, but when I used it handheld I always keep the tdp at 17W, and the SD performs the same on those TDP to Ally from my research. I also don’t think you need a 1080 screen in a small screen. Finally, what did it for me was discovering Moonlight/Sunshine; you see I also use my Ally docked to my TV to enjoy couch gaming, and there I up the TDP to 25W. But with moonlight on steam, I can now do the same as I have a good desktop 😁 I’ll be following your upcoming videos on steam, can’t wait for your optimizations!👍🏼

[@filt3rless]

Thanks man! I think you'll like the OLED a LOT :) Moonlight is a game changer. I was just using it and getting around 9 1/2 hours of battery at 90Hz on the SD. It's a perfect combo, getting the OLED / battery life and graphics 😁 Then for lighter games the steam deck runs them well and still getting really great battery life natively. Planning on doing a watt comparison (every watt), to see how the LCD vs OLED compares and might even throw the Ally in as it approaches 7-8W (since that's the lowest the Ally goes in most games I tested).

[@Jankylulu]

@@filt3rless yes definitely would be a good idea to throw in the Ally. Especially the 15 watt comparison. God I’m excited for the OLED 🤣

[@TechDweeb]

That first test 😵‍💫

[@SpicyCreamy]

Thanks man, great stuff

[@comradejux]

4:26 did you have fun editing this part?

[@tatecheddar]

You're the first person I've seen that's demonstrated that the system can just be put to sleep and woken up in seconds, midgame, with no hiccups. I dont know if the original Steam Deck could do this, but that's impressive and I'm surprised nobody else is mentioning this.

[@filt3rless]

The LCD model can also do this and it's one of the best features about Steam OS and the Steam Deck IMO. It's really great to be able to just hit a button the next day and continue where you left off. Also the battery life hardly drops at all when in sleep :)

[@ezg8448]

The OLED screen is just PHENOMENAL! Even compared to the Ally with it's 120 hertz refresh you just can't the OLED's faster refreshing screen.

[@filt3rless]

The OLED is awesome! Did you end up buying one? Now I just want a 1080p OLED panel with VRR 🤣

[@mqd100psu]

yup i'm extremely affected by refresh rate i usually can't play anything lower than 60fps but on an oled screen i can play 40fps without issue

[@ezg8448]

Didn't buy one, happy with my Ally. It was the Skyrim test you did right in the beginning. I had the clearest image out of the 3 while the camera was spinning. That is a characteristic of a fast refresh clear.

[@Baronvonbadguy3]

Ally can be overclocked to 175hz btw

[@dio8070]

@@filt3rlessngl 1080p is useless. You’ll probably see that in like deck 4 or 5 lol. Tech evolves but for handheld it’s still growing

[@ChampagneOppa]

Rog ally and OLED SD are awesome

[@Limitbreak09]

Man.. i love my ally but if i have to choose again between Rog ally and SD oled i will definitely pick the Oled. Battery is a beast especially when streaming games from steam link or GFN, it will give me a whopping 8 hrs battery life vs Rog ally's 4 hrs!

[@filt3rless]

I think that's where the Steam Deck really shines is if you have another gaming PC to stream from (for the games that don't work properly). I personally think I would choose the Ally if I didn't have a gaming PC and could only have one, because of its versatility. Have you tried using moonlight? I use it to stream my main pc to various devices and it works well. Lot's of settings and options to tweak it how you like it.

[@Limitbreak09]

@@filt3rless yup exactly what you said. Gaming pc/laptop and SD is a nice combo to have. I did try moonlight, parsec. It used to work now its bonkers, so im using steam link and i dnt have any issues so far. My wish list for rog ally 2 is to have a bigger screen and bigger battery life thats it. And my wish list for SD2 is to have 1080p and maybe and perfromance upgrade.

[@Sleepy.Time.]

i cant get over how much better all the buttons and the stick feel compared to my LCD

[@2greenify]

Good comparison thanks.

[@level-zero999]

I love the Steam Deck but the Ally sounds way better

[@jasondwimes8612]

It is.. don't let these steam deck fanboys fool you

[@AllesTorte]

bought the Ally because of better Screen and the „silent“ fans. now they had to improve the Steamdeck… which i think is the better handheld device overall. i stick with my Ally (SD Card Slot still working), but if i had to decide now i‘d buy the OLED Steamdeck.

[@cloudGGs]

Is Ally really silent?

[@AllesTorte]

@@cloudGGs its not as noisy as the steamdeck :) speaking about 15-18w with manual fancurve and old bios

[@crestofhonor2349]

I am not surprised about the Ally and LCD deck getting close to identical run times. They both have the exact same battery size so equal TDP means eauql run times. Why the LCD deck lasts longer is because you don't have to push TDP up as much to get acceptable performance in games. This allows you to run longer because it simply takes less power where as on the Ally you typically need to use higher TDPs to get decent performance in games. I do have the Deck OLED and I love it so far. Hopefully I can get an Ally or another Windows handheld at somepoint

[@SQRL_TAC]

Mine should be here by the end of next week, STOKED! Is the top bar where all the system's info is displayed when you did the battery test a feature or an external program?

[@filt3rless]

Hey, it's all built in. You just hit the bottom right button, go to the battery icon and under "Performance Overlay Level" there is a slider you can adjust from 0-4. I'm using level "2" in the video which just shows the top bar. I think you'll like the device a lot man :)

[@SQRL_TAC]

@@filt3rless Ty, man. This keeps getting better and better.

[@trueroman6775]

@@SQRL_TACAs somebody who just sold their LCD steam deck for an OLED… it’s quite literally better in every single way and all my complaints are gone, so it’s a great time to get one.

[@ghkevilhd44]

I ordered my 1 TB Oled last Friday and its supposed to arrive somewhere in this week. Lets hope that GLS is better than DHL

[@ShefferTube]

I have one of the limited editions and it's sticks do not pop when you move them. Also, of note, I have had no dead pixels like all those claiming them on reddit.

[@Y4NNI]

Hats off to the poor fella getting dizzy in game in order to test the batteries

[@MeepWasTaken]

As a Steam Deck owner, I almost upgraded to the OLED. I ended up buying a preowned ROG Ally instead, because I wanted the extra performance that it has (and VRR), but I honestly probably would've been just as happy with the Steam Deck OLED. It offers some really good upgrades over the original and it makes me excited to see what Valve does with the Steam Deck 2.

[@rene5871]

Cope

[@NinersOwnPhilly]

Ally still better clown ​@@rene5871

[@AJCoRePlays]

I own PS5 (plus subscribed), Xb Series X (Gamepass ultimate), Switch….. No PC… I want SD OLED, but…. I can’t transfer saves from consoles?!! So I buy games twice?!!

[@tomoprime217]

I am personally holding out for the gpd Win Mini. Mine could be shipping out any day now.🤞I picked up a slim 25,000mAh 92wh power bank for $50. Pretty psyched.

[@filt3rless]

Sweet! The extra ram should help as well. It looks like an awesome little device 👍

[@tomoprime217]

@@filt3rless thanks. I went with 32GB. 64GB seemed a little overkill for mostly gaming. I do plan to set up the Oculink with a OneDock v2 eGpu eventually, but money is kinda tight. Already owning a desktop kinda defeats the need for it honestly but I am curious if oculink will be all the rave for simple upgrading down the road.

[@RicardoGarcia-fk5mc]

Excelente, que hermosa pantalla Oled.

[@lepari9986]

Thanks for the video. The OLED definitely has clearly the best battery life but I have no idea why you would start battery life test with 95, 97 and 97% charged statuses. Just fully charge them dude :D

[@filt3rless]

Next time I'll drain them down to get them to charge to 100%. I had everything setup and started the test and realized I needed to change the settings and they didn't top off since they're near full. I think it either has to get below 95 or 90 before they'll fully charge again. I'll find out for the next test 👍

[@lepari9986]

@filt3rless ah fair enough. I didn't know about such feature, the incoming SD oled is my first hand held.

[@xpressbeats501]

lol the way the LCD deck eats through battery is crazy lol

[@creaturecore13]

Another great video, but did you delete your steam deck vs ally at low wattages video? that was the best most comprehensive low wattage video on youtube

[@filt3rless]

Hey, I just realized I did de-list that video when I went through and cleaned up the channel. I just set it back to public.

[@claudacious9947]

An OLED ally would be nice, the ergonomics of the deck are uncomfortable. I returned it.

[@Jmjayme]

Which sd oled do you recomnend me? 512 or 1 tb? I will play outdoor most. Glossy with protector? I dont want to loose best quality pictures but i dont want the screen to be a mirror. Th

[@kaizel2264]

I would describe the oled speakers as more airy clarity or more open while the rog ally is stronger and more upfront I prefer the ally while playing horror games, shooting games and listening to music while i prefer the deck speakers when playing adventure and mmo rpg games like genshin, Minecraft assasin's creed and fighting games like tekken, mortal combat

[@itsdtxjd]

The oled glossy looks too good! So does the Limted Edition but you can definitely tell it has an etched screen on it. Not as bad as the og lcd eteched screen though!

[@filt3rless]

I wanted the Limited Edition, but I love the glossy screen for slightly more pop to the colors and a little bit clearer text. But I'm pretty picky 🤣

[@dzli]

Which version of Skyrim did you test? Vanilla or Special Edition?

[@SCORP1ONF1RE]

most of you oled owners probably have a decent pc. if so, get a gaming router and stream your AAA games. cyberpunk 2077 maxed out with full raytracing on this oled is absosolutely berzerk! and future-proofs it to the moon.

[@filt3rless]

1000%, I use moonlight to stream and it works great. It's the perfect combo to be able to play the lighter games on the go, and stream the high end games. Now on an OLED with ridiculously good battery life. I do think for people who don't have a gaming rig though and want to play multiplayer games, latest AAA games and/or use it as a PC, the Ally is definitely the way to go.

[@joestuehmer7967]

Whats the point in using your pc to stream it if u are home and can play it on the tv or gaming monitor??

[@angelortiz-vk8ez]

The sound in the Rog Ally is so crisp

[@TG_Geek]

Now I can ignore people in public for 50% longer, thanks valve!

[@filt3rless]

🤣

[@kingofall9262]

I picked up an ally. Already have the first gen deck.

[@victorxmaster634]

A big thing in the comparison between steam deck and switch battery life is that switch uses a custom os that is extremely battery efficient even the switch lite that has less battery life than my phone lasts 4 hours in demanding games and running Linux on the switch we can see that the battery drains very fast

[@victorxmaster634]

You can’t really do that on the deck because having a custom is would mean that you would have to port games to it and that simply isn’t the idea of the deck because it’s a gaming pc

[@BeingADik_Jacob]

5 hrs is more than enough time for on the go, get the OLED gents

[@BERSERKERDEMON1]

Was considering buying one until I heared the clicky noise on the stick at the end of your video...😢

[@filt3rless]

It’s ramped up so it’s a bit louder than in the video. Do you have a Nintendo switch pro controller? They make the same noise so you could pull that out and you’d know how it sounds. It’s not bad and could totally still be worth getting.

[@_jfs2000_]

@filt3rless Hey I hope you can help me with this or anyone else: How noticeable is input lag on the Oled Steam Deck in your opinion? Im pretty sensitive about this and heard mixed reports about latency on the original Steam Deck. Like how is the Oled when compared to your desktop PC? Thanks in advance! Have a great New Year :)

[@filt3rless]

If you're wanting the lowest latency possible then I don't think the Steam Deck is the best option. A PC running a high refresh rate monitor and high FPS will feel A LOT more responsive. The OLED is better than the LCD, but it feels a bit less responsive then even something like the Ally. You'll also want to cap FPS on the Steam Deck since there is no VRR and framerate fluctuations are pretty noticable. Overall even my 60Hz FreeSync monitor with a 57FPS cap feels a lot more responsive than the Steam Deck. The 165Hz on my laptop is in another realm.

[@thegame8112]

What is the cover/case that you got for the ally? seems pretty good :D

[@filt3rless]

Here is a link to it: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CB8PQ36C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 It's a decent case for the price :)

[@thegame8112]

@@filt3rless THANKS!

[@resmarted]

No idea how you noticed that thumbstick pop. Been playing mine for a week without noticing.

[@jordirapper]

I got mine Friday (for the weekend, nice) and my God. Playing Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Waluigi Pinball. THE COLORS FEEL SO RIIIIIGHT

[@WillySou]

That looks great👌 my first thought when I heard about 90hz on the SD was: nice. Now when AAA games are hovering around 35-38fps I will set it to 70hz and cap it to 35fps or so and have a smooth experience. That was for me one of my main issues with the Steam Deck... While playing uncharted or something as demanding it was on those lower 30fps and it would stutter quite a bit. That's why I got the Ally which is much smoother overall (even more with the VRR) . But that Oled Steam Deck looks really nice... Will probably skip it though as I'm very happy with the Ally.

[@filt3rless]

The Ally with VRR is superior in the stutter/smoothness department. I find I need to try and run a locked frame rate on the OLED still, even if the display is set to 90Hz. And when it's locked to a solid FPS it feels pretty good, but the Ally lets you run uncapped and fluctuating frames while being butter smooth. Definitely worth waiting for the next gen handhelds before upgrading. I wonder if we'll see an Ally 2 😮

[@WillySou]

@@filt3rless I hope there will be an Ally 2. I just bought a XG Mobile and I'm hoping in 2024 to buy a new Ally 2 with (hopefully) a Xg Mobile connection and even better processor to have less of a bottleneck while connected to the external graphics.

[@didjidks]

Clicky sticks are not ok, that's a defect so it's better to RMA

[@fingiess]

Retrogamecorps was mentioned for having a good video about the screens; I love the guy. However, I'd like to mention that Taki Udon made a video that dives into much more details about the screens specifically, and show a lot of very concrete examples.

[@UKLynk]

daily dose of vent smell.

[@mrt6349]

I never really play any fps games. I mostly play games like baldur's gate 3 and tactics ogre reborn and diablo 2r and 4x strategy games. Would you say steam deck or rog ally?

[@1alpacheeno]

I had Steam Deck LCD and I dont have good experience with it abd thats the reason I sold it off - - Games were not smooth - I was using quacked / pirated games and the performance was not smooth enough because of pre compiled shader cache - On some games it was okay but still there was stutter all the time and quality of graphics was not satisfying because you have to lower the preset - secondly the resolution was not 1080p like rog Ally Now I want to purchase the OLED Model because of the brighter screen but I wonder will that make any difference ?? or should I wait for Rog Ally 2 ?

[@filt3rless]

I didn't like the Steam Deck LCD. I just couldn't stand the screen itself. The OLED is amazing IMO. However, it's still where you'd want to run an FPS cap. The nice thing about the OLED though is the 90Hz refresh rate. So you can set a 45FPS cap and the screen stays at 90Hz. This makes it so there isn't any black flashing, and it feels more responsive than if the screen and FPS were both at 45. I don't know if it's worth it or not, but I find the OLED a lot better and have been using it frequently. The battery life is amazing, fan noises is lower, thermals better, etc. However, it's not that powerful, so when running older games it'll be great, but trying to push newer/demanding games will be problematic. I think it's worth trying, and if you don't like it then you could return it after a few days of use.

[@1alpacheeno]

@@filt3rless Thanks for the detailed message - I think I ll go for one 👍 Rog Ally 2 is coming but may be after 6 7 months ... for now I am planning to purchase one 👍

[@darkashes9953]

All valves need to do is to ask AMD to use IBM optical circuits paten to make the next oled steam deck have as many threads as a gaming desktop pc and to use optical circuits and 16 cores so that it can play games that ps5, Xbox series x can't do .

[@GAMINGPC667]

Brother the frame limit do like motion interpolation double 30 fps to be like 90hz in motion or smooth picture??????

[@Shinius]

9 hours of Stardew Valley? That's the perfect amount of Stardew Valley time! Not an addict, I swear.

[@angelmorando3317]

Yo my steam deck oled just came in I love it soo much I play a lot of dead by daylight light on my ps5 now I can play it on my deck at 90fps mid settings ❤️❤️

[@SadfoxGuyver]

My type of content

[@СергейКоваленко-э8щ]

Rog ally top 💪💪

[@warpathh]

the poppping noise on the joysticks is because the plastic is pushed together on the surface of the joystick and when you go to move it, it has to break the contact and slide, making a popping sound. They are not hall effect joystick so gg.

[@Tyl3r_4]

the joystick popping sound u were talkin about went away for me after a few uses.

[@joaopauloalbq]

6:10 damn, ROG Ally is actually thicker than Steam Deck lol

[@Phil_529]

Steam OLED easily has the best audio. Flat audio is where it's at.

[@Droideka666]

Aww no more ally videos?😢😅

[@i_GHOST]

Aww is there a problem bud ?

[@xBonafidexProdigy]

@@i_GHOSTlmao no trust me none of us ally users have an issue with you deckboys, not sure if the same can be said vice versa….

[@Droideka666]

@@i_GHOST lol you look like your trying to pick a fight at a bar😁

[@filt3rless]

Hey, definitely still doing Ally videos 👍. I'm thinking about doing the G-Helper mixed with AC one soon. Just mixing it up a bit. And both systems have their pro's and con's. Loading up something like ARK and it's immediately clear how much more raw power the Ally has 🤣 On the "Go" I've really been enjoying the OLED for that quick resume and battery life though.

[@Droideka666]

@@filt3rless yeah I was kidding of course! Hope you're as successful with the deck as you are with the Ally. Always great comparisons and tinkering tips! SD owners are lucky to have you doing the rounds on the steam deck OLED! Keep em coming😅 (Did you return the go?)

[@sturm5061]

👍👍👍

[@ninjason57]

What's your thoughts on the Ally vs OLED steam deck IF you're able to get the ally Z1 extreme version for under $600.

[@filt3rless]

That's a tough one! It really depends on what you're looking for. If you have a gaming PC then the SD could be a better choice as you can use a program like Moonlight to stream more demanding games to the Steam Deck. If it's your only device and you're wanting something that does a bit of everything, the Ally is the way to go. You can dock the Ally and use it as a full fledge PC (even editing videos on it). But the Steam Deck has Steam OS and gives a more console like experience. Let me know what you're primarily wanting to do with the device and I'll let you know what might be the best choice :)

[@tonytony-fc6gq]

How did you get division running on the steam deck ?

[@filt3rless]

Actually the Ubisoft launcher automatically installed and launched me into the game, without having to click or do anything. I was surprised as in the past it was a real pain to get Ubisoft working. So as of the writing of this comment it seems to be pretty polished :)

[@myway3172]

Yeah.. not sponsored

[@filt3rless]

Nothing on this channel is sponsored. I buy things I think I'll like, some things I do, others I don't. The OLED was surprising in just how good it is. Excellent screen, quick resume, Steam OS and 4-5 hours playing Skyrim is crazy. It's a beast for a handheld. But for docking the system and using it as a computer the Ally or any other windows handheld would be a way better choice. I'm only using it for games, and mostly older ones at that (which is where it really shines).

[@theexile4694]

If you wanted to test their battery life you needed to do a couple of things. Lock to a power target, aka 10-15w, that is the same lock on all the devices. Lock the fps to 30, for maximum battery life on all devices. Run the exact same tests.

[@filt3rless]

I'll have to wait for steam to fix the stutter issue in 3.5. Before this I ran performance tests in the 7-10W range and got massive stuttering on the LCD model after the update. Not sure what valve did to cause this. The FPS control worked better here as it was sometimes 15-20FPS different in something like Skyrim when using 7W TDP on 3.4.11 vs 3.5.5.

[@iidjkg]

Are the batteries brand new in the Rog Ally and the LCD Steam Deck? Otherwise the test is not really accurate due to the other 2 devices having battery health degration due to long term charge cycles.

[@filt3rless]

Hey, this is a valid point and they're not brand new. So if I had every unit in it's out of the box state, the Ally and LCD would do better than you're seeing here. I will say though if every device was new, the OLED would still pull ahead by a pretty large margin.

[@cloudGGs]

How would you say the steam deck Oled compares against the Asus Rog Ally. in terms of fan noise? which one is quieter? Edit: just saw your comparison nice. It looks like the Asus ROG ally is a lot quieter than even the OLED model! Guess I’m going with the Asus then

[@jinx20001]

i have both side by side and at 15w id say they are about even, the deck seems to switch the fans off its so quiet below 15w but i cant be sure, the ally as you probably know is quiet too below 15w, but if you push the ally its no contest, the deck is quieter since the ally automatically sets fan 1 to 70 percent under load, thanks asus, just what we all wanted.

[@filt3rless]

At 15 watts on both (which is the max for the steam deck), the Ally is silent. You'd have to put your ear on the fan vent to really hear it. You can hear the OLED fan, but it's not distracting like on the LCD model. Now if you're running max power on both (15W on SD and 30W on Ally), the Ally is louder.

[@Shaunymac10]

The ally is literally silent its the most quiet of all the handhelds anybody saying different is lying plus its the only handhelds with 2 fans

[@SuperYtc1]

The input lag looks really bad.

[@tinostarks]

did u do any testing with the headphone jack? My OLED unit has a ton of noise and feedback, the original doesn't.

[@filt3rless]

Hey, I just hooked the OLED up to my main sound system to test it and I don't hear any feedback at all. One thing I'd try if you haven't is another set of headphones/speakers, just to make sure it's doing it there as well. Also if you're using a TDP cap, I'd take it off just to see. Some games don't like it and I have heard some cracking here and there at lower TDP.

[@firexallst4rz277]

I just got my 2tb oled steam deck today it's amazing

[@daljedalje7079]

Which games are at 08:26 and the game after that? Ty in advance

[@filt3rless]

Hey, they're these: -Tom Clancy: The Division -Fable Anniversary Edition -Skyrim Special Edition

[@daljedalje7079]

@@filt3rless ty my friend :) Great review btw

[@RE4PER]

You deserve more subs for sure. Great video!

[@michaelsayed]

Best review ever, battery and fps and tdp, u got a sub.

[@Boss_Fight_Index_muki]

my big concern with getting a steam deck is how long before the requirement floor of new releases exceed the performance ceiling of the steam deck to keep a steady 30fps.

[@filt3rless]

That is a very valid concern. The SD is definitely not for the latest AAA games. It's really good at emulation though and most of my Steam Library is very playable. I wish it was "the one" and could do it all, but I find the Ally or an actual PC is still needed along side the SD for me. Still the experience when playing less demanding titles is really great, and with superb battery life :)

[@100Jim]

Great job

[@spikeyboy]

Can the new oled play AAA games as good as the ally or go? I mainly play AAA games, no indie games or online games. Also will plan to emulate games such as ps3 games and switch games, do you know if oled can handle these fine?

[@filt3rless]

You're way better off with the Ally for AAA games. The SD is nice for lighter games and can run some AAA games, but you'll find you're having to try to tweak settings a lot more to get a playable experience on the OLED.

[@spikeyboy]

@@filt3rless ally or legion go? I bought the ally when it first came out and went through three unit due to hardware issue so I ultimately returned it. Been eyeing the go since released.

[@umairdbest18]

Great Video. What game were you playing at 8:43??

[@filt3rless]

Hey, it's in this order: -Tom Clancy: The Division -Fable Anniversary Edition -Skyrim Special Edition All pretty great games :)

[@UmarRCz]

So overall the SD oled is better than the ally??

[@filt3rless]

They're both good at certain things. If I could only choose one gaming device out of my PC, Ally and SD, I'd choose the Ally. Because it can play anything, I can use it as a full blown computer, etc. But the Steam Deck plays a lot of the games I own really well, with amazing battery life. So I use the SD right now more than the Ally and my PC combined. It's the better system IMO when running a game that runs well on it for the OLED / Battery / Console like experience. Hope that helps! :)

[@UmarRCz]

@@filt3rless its difficult choice for me but its still good for the variety in handheld market gaming these days☺, thanks for the suggestion, its helpful in deciding, i have a budget choice to buy one device and am leaning to get the SD oled, but i want a full fledged pc too so i might just get an ally...🙈

[@tipsy634]

why is the oled a different colour? are the settings different or is it some other factor

[@filt3rless]

The colors pop a lot more on the OLED, but the OLED defaults to 6500K color temperature and the LCD defaults to 7500K (not sure why Valve has it set this way). And I was using 6000K on the OLED for a slightly "warmer" look. All of these can be adjusted though to your liking :)

[@bbqwarchips1256]

The screen isn’t bigger it’s the black edges the got smaller meaning yes there is more display but the screen is not bigger meaning old cases and such still work

[@filt3rless]

Hey, the screen is 7.4” now instead of 7”. The actual glass and outline/borders are the same though so older cases and even screen protectors should work 👍

[@growingup4487]

the display size and the capacitive glass size are not the same thing

[@abckilly]

Best video

[@Jdawg0529]

Thanks for the comparison vid Filterless! 8:06 in regards to the pop sound when moving the joysticks from neutral, I think it's a QC issue. My LCD steam deck had this issue with both joysticks. My new OLED only has this issue with the right one. I'm not sure what is causing it or what the fix would be.

[@filt3rless]

Thanks! Both of mine do it, but the right one is a bit louder. What's strange is every Nintendo Pro Controller I've used does the same thing.

[@Jdawg0529]

@@filt3rless Interesting.. now here's a couple more random questions regarding the OLED model. Do you notice the ABXY buttons rattling at all when you shake the deck? Also I noticed when putting on a case, I pushed slightly on the backside of the deck opposite where the left joystick would be and I heard some creaking on the plastic. I'm guessing it's nothing to worry about, just likely the way it was built

[@filt3rless]

@@Jdawg0529 The buttons make a little bit of noise on both of mine. Yes on the creaking. When I pick it up with my left hand, I hear and feel this slight creak/movement from the back. It almost feels like a tiny pop feel when pressing the plastic in. Have you noticed the left trackpad is louder than the right? If you go into controller calibration you can test them. At 7dB the left is more audible than the right on mine. It's not by much, and most people wouldn't notice it, but I do 😅

[@Jdawg0529]

@@filt3rless Yep! Same exact for me on the left trackpad haptics, deff stronger on the left compared to the right. On another note, I was almost was convinced that the trackpads had tactile buttons when you pushed them down but I realized it's actually the haptics activating once we apply enough pressure to them xD Deff makes me feel better knowing we got the same exact build of the device

[@filt3rless]

@@Jdawg0529 It's like the macbook trackpads that do the same thing, it definitely feels like it's clicking in haha. I'm glad our devices are the same too :). I'm pretty picky myself with electronics. Any defect on the screen for me = instant return, but I can handle other minor things. Did you get the etched or glossy model?

[@harissonbond7499]

To my LCD steam deck bretherins dont fret we can always use greenlight to remote play our series x to steam deck to get even better battery life than the OLED steam deck. Just ensure you set your series x to 1080p 60hz disable hdr and remove the hdmi cable on your series x to get almost no noticeable lag/latency and of course use ethernet connection and wifi 5ghz. Yw

[@1415gatewayable]

Slapping paint on an old pig and then saying that it's amazing wow? How we continue to celebrate mediocracy

[@Boogie_the_cat]

So is it "okay" like the video title says, or is it "awesome" like the thumbnail says? It's just an OLED screen, no need to orgasm over it. Whatever gets you the sweet sweet ad money, though, right? I've had my RDA of hyperbole already, so....... Meh.

[@kenni417]

go outside.... lol

[@filt3rless]

It's "Amazing".

[@Johnnytacoballs]

Thats a very good battery😱

[@filt3rless]

It is extremely good! I was playing Skyrim this morning at 45FPS and seeing 5+ hours. On Insurgency Sandstorm I was getting over 4 hours. I can't believe how good it is 🔋