SteamOS Might Not Be The Answer ...

[@Lichshield]

It doesn't need to be the answer, it doesn't need to be perfect. it just need to be an alternative to windows. that's it

[@czromxl3182]

It's never going to be an alternative to Windows, do you know why? Because it's for Steam deck! There already are great alternatives like Linux Mint. Every con he said in this video is irrelevant because it's not a con. You don't make a ship and list "does not fly" as a con. Most people don't want an alternative, they want competition so their OS becomes less shitty without them doing anything.

[@jedipadawan7023]

Agreed. Windows was highly flawed compared to MacOS and OS/2 when Windows 3.0 dropped but it was 'good enough' and had the name 'Microsoft' behind it. And that was enough for Microsoft to completely take over. Functionally Google apps is way behind Microsoft office or Libreoffice but it's 'good enough' for Joe Public such that most people I know are no longer aware of Microsoft Office. "I just do Google." As long as you have 'good enough', enough of a brand name and enough publicity you can take over with even an inferior product. indeed, history shows that marketing wins over technical brilliance almost every time.

[@Lichshield]

@@czromxl3182 mmmm it kinda is now in the handheld space and some laptops, with a little be of push can hit desktop computer a some point, remember that SteamOS is targeting gaming community with optional office/work environment. So far I see SteamOS with more sense than W11, it knows where is going. so far I don't know who is the target for W11? what was the point of it in the first place? I know there are good linux distros out there, but this is focus on gaming as I said, that is the big point, if it games it works, other stuff are additional and optional.

[@kyperactive]

Lets be real though: Windows, right now, is too complete for anything short of it to be an alternative. SteamOS, right now, is nowhere near complete.

[@ordinaryhuman5645]

Linux already has many distros that are exactly that though, so a SteamOS won't be anything new. Yet another distro doesn't actually change anything.

[@tomis3151]

As long as Valve keeps on working SteamOS and Proton, linux gaming will get better in general. Playing most Steam games on other Linux distros is a pretty plug-and-play experience and that is thanks to the corporate backing Valve brings. Valve also gave big bucks to Arch developers recently. That being said, it is a bit of problem that Linux gaming is so Steam-centric.

[@fooboomoo]

about gaming being steam centric i would say we gotta start somew

[@banoffecake]

@@tomis3151 To be fair, for a lot of people gaming on Windows is also Steam-centric. 3rd party launchers, EA and Ubi crap are a pain to use.. I never used Epic Game Store either..

[@lusa3002]

Only if you have a modern GPU, old GPU's can't handle modern windows games via proton or wine.

[@-Six-]

Can't also forget about WINE team, without their initial work decades ago windows software in general wouldn't exist on Linux including Steam games, Proton or games in general working.

[@bmqww223]

without WINE linux is nothing.... valve did excellent work for making it work for games now the next step would be hoping for someone else to invest in wine heavily and valve eventually making steam OS in such a way that WINE will be integrated in system level and users can simply run everything like we see and do in windows if that happens windows is surely dead 100 percent

[@PeterAntonioGamez]

Steam Os might not be the answer, but it's a HUGE help to linux. I have seen many people who steam os it's their first linux distro, and they learn Linux it's not that hard, and i really really happy to play many games on Linux.

[@Brakka86]

I have a dedicated AMD steam pc with a 7900 xtx and a 7800x3d in it. I use an 8bitdo controlller to play games. For everything else I have my main pc.

[@joroc]

I'm pretty sure SteamOS doesn't require settings like the other gnu/linuxes

[@TheCorruptCat]

@@joroc what do mean? I installed fedora and have not needed to change anything

[@rayniermanly9945]

if steamOS is the way to get anti-cheat working on linux i am fine with that...

[@fastedwarrior7353]

That would fix most of the issues that Linux gaming has right now.

[@BearZA_91]

From the AC's perspective, Linux(On SteamOS) is still Linux as far as my understanding goes, so it will not necessarily help. Hence why APEX Legends could not just ban general Linux players, leaving SteamOS users untouched, they had to nuke Linux as a whole.

[@dimashadziq6007]

I will just make steamOS subsystem for linux to run that on any linux distro 😂

[@proxy90909]

​@@BearZA_91Thats the point, if the number of "Linux" steamOS or otherwise increase to the point the market is meaningful they will allow "Linux" for the "SteamOS" players and the EVERYONE on linux can jump in too.

[@Things_I_wish_I_knew]

It may or may not be THE system, but you gotta admit.... it brought a LOT of new eyes and attention to Linux overall which can only help long term.

[@MichaelNROH]

Oh yeah, a lot more people know about it now

[@christianjones6124]

"43 Seconds ago." I need to get off of KZbin

[@MichaelNROH]

Naaa, you still good

[@VenRoot]

It gets problematic when his next video shows up in the same session :p

[@NJ-wb1cz]

Maybe you need to get off _on_ KZbin

[@fabricio4794]

Get off means sex,did you know that?

[@NeptuneSega]

​@fabricio4794 Stop explaining jokes, it was implied already

[@thysdp]

SteamOS becoming it's own distribution IS a big deal. First and foremost, the handheld market that is now a dominant windows market will have a second "better" option, pre installed on the device. preinstallation is king in this segment. Second, Valve is using this opportunity to knock on Nvidia's and Intel door to help improve and work on the driver compatibility issues, so that these drivers will work with gamescope and other features like recording etc... This to make sure that whoever installs SteamOS, you will have a good experience. From the peeps that gave you Proton... It's super important, and Bazzite will adopt these improvements and make their distribution even better.

[@sklynexd]

Not perfect but miles better than windows for any handheld.

[@MichaelNROH]

That's true

[@davguev]

For Linux to be an alternative to Windows for the mainstream public, it has to be backed by a mainstream company. Gamers would like Valve's OS, not a Linux distro, even if Bazzite or Chimera or whatever is a better choice.

[@MichaelNROH]

Harsh truth

[@dwayne_]

It's not about SteamOS, it's about Linux. SteamOS means more support for linux and therefore we can install other Linux distributions to replace Windows

[@GoatedXaviersobased]

arguably never was as much as i love steamos

[@Miquel_Ubuntero]

I’m using Steam for a couple of years and I enjoyed it so much. And I think it has made a good job to play games on Linux. Thanks for your video, also good job. Greetings from Barcelona.

[@NewNiklas0803]

I really hate it when KZbin starts the video with the German audiotrack D:

[@adlibbed2138]

@@NewNiklas0803 and the worst part of it, there is no option to revert into original audio I'd rather watch dubbed anime rather than listening to whatever nightmare fuel yt auto dubbing has to offer ever again

[@Hyp3rSon1X]

@@adlibbed2138 Are you sure? I can go into Audio Track, and there the original Track will have (original) added to its name. But I'm not sure if one can turn off the automatic changing of the track on first play of a video…

[@MuhammadSalman7236]

Revanced now has a patch called "always force original audio"

[@Sithhy]

@@adlibbed2138 Is there not? Do you not have a way to go back to original voice track in the video player settings?

[@LilTuxxie]

I love your Linux videos! I've learned so much from you in such a short amount of time, and it's made me feel like a part of the community by keeping a bit updated. Kudos!

[@MichaelNROH]

Thanks ❤️

[@mercuriete]

I think steamOS only needs to allow a setting for default booting to desktop. Or just remember boot to same.

[@tuxnanos3046]

There is: "steamos-session-select plasma-wayland-persistent" in the terminal will set KDE Plasma the default with Wayland. "steamos-session-select plasma-x11-persistent" for KDE Plasma with X11. "steamos-session-select gamescope" to revert back to default Gamescope on boot.

[@mercuriete]

@tuxnanos3046 thanks! But thats settings you need root or can be stored in /home? (Perdistent between updates)

[@tuxnanos3046]

@@mercuriete I don't believe it requires root. The setting should be stored in ~/.config/steamos-session-select which is in the home folder, so it should persist between system updates.

[@tuxnanos3046]

@@mercuriete I don't believe it requires root. The setting should be stored in ~/.config/steamos-session-select which is in the home folder, so it should persist between system updates.

[@RogueRen]

Small correction, Nobara is not Atomic/immutable

[@MichaelNROH]

True. Kind of bad formulated

[@lloydbond13]

SteamOS is definitely a solution for Gamers. Power gamers will need some solutions. If you are a console gamer form Xbox or PS, getting a PC with SteamOS installed will be exactly what you'd want and need. If any of these power gamers decide they need more flexibility, It probably wont be a big deal for them to just switch over to another gamer focused distro. But for sure, SteamOS will probably be 100% of what 90% of the gamers need. They just need to make sure they have compatible hardware.

[@theheavy2742]

That's exactly what I searched for.

[@Evilatem]

After using Linux desktop mode on the SteamDeck, i switched 3 of my 4 computers to Linux Mint. I only have Windows 10 still on my gaming rig because Linux nVidia card drivers suck. If Valve can get it works on SteamOS i will 100% drop Windows as an OS because i'm am NOT "upgrading" to Windows 11's spyware.

[@dimashadziq6007]

Wise decission

[@osmandahman9162]

I think you miss understand the purpose of steam os

[@beneficialhistory]

The Finals is currently unplayable on Linux. The game is very laggy. I don't know if it's Proton's or game's problem. I hope the support for this game won't be cut off like Gta 5 and Apex Legends.

[@alejandromujica7914]

I played The Finals on Linux perfectly fine with over 130fps with a 6700 XT and 5800X...

[@JumCuggler]

A very good video. I'm glad you outlined potential/existing issues and ways that Valve can fix them. Exactly the kind of constructive criticism that the community and industry need.

[@MichaelNROH]

Thank you

[@tonkahanah5890]

im just not really even convinced valve is trying to make a DESKTOP gaming experience out of linux. I think they're doing work so you can use steamOS to make something like a steam machine, but I just dont feel like they're trying to make and OS to replace windows and because of that, they'll "fail". every one is hoping SteamOS will be some windows replacement to save them from microsoft and I feel like they're just gonna be disappointed cuz steamOS aint gonna do that for them.

[@MichaelNROH]

I think that have to at some point. Their main market are PC users and competing with consoles is not the best tactic if they want to convert existing users

[@madoka006]

Agree. There’s a lot of cope from windows users that if steam OS comes out Linux is suddenly good. But everything I hear about this is largely gaming focused, yet people are trying to make this some kind of serious competitor to windows when it’s just not.

[@dirokiwi]

0:58 Your steam profile picture 😂😂😂😂

[@MichaelNROH]

We don't talk about that here

[@genblob]

I hope Valve does make Steam OS more viable for general desktop use since a lot of Windows users are betting on it becoming their next OS. There's already many great distros to choose from but the reality is that big names like Steam are what really pull people in.

[@Things_I_wish_I_knew]

True.... it's also that the valve is encouraging development/compatibility by providing a baseline interface those brand new to Linux will have a basic understanding of from the onset thanks to steam OS. That device along with the Linux distro that offers a nice blended merging of other Linux based tools that folks can get a crash course in is what's helping Linux overall.

[@joepearson6644]

Hi, great videos . Quick question as a new Linux user ( Ubuntu) i don't have LAN or Bluetooth drivers on my AMD X870 motherboard. Do you have any idea on a date for drivers? I think its included in the next kernal update but not certain thNks 😊

[@NickyTheRook]

It's nice, gaming on Linux is undoubtedly in a better place thanks to Valve, but the amount of vendor lock-in being accepted by a large part of the Linux community feels weird to me.

[@jedipadawan7023]

I do not have a problem with vendor lock in for games because games are not essential to my work or life. Now, when it comes to my work that is another matter! So I think it depends on the use case.

[@MichaelNROH]

Depends on what is optional and what isn't. I think vendor lockdown only really a problem if Steam would be made SteamOS only for example

[@proxy90909]

I jumped ship into linux with my first ever gaming PC this month, went with Nobara, any and all advancements by Steam to Proton are welcome and the numbers rising for players on linux/SteamOS as a plataform give visibility that may put games with Anti-cheat incompatibilities under pressure to make them SteamOS compatible and in doing so allow everyone else in linux to play them. Its a net positive the easier it gets the more people qe can convince to make the jump, the more that join the louder our voice gets and the more siginificant catering to that market share becomes. We can make Linux more than viable for gaming but those of us who were willing to open the control panel every now and then on windows have to take the plunge to make it easier for those who wont, just like those could modify/upgrade GPU drivers did for us who couldn't/didn't know how before us

[@peckneck2439]

First of all, third party publishers shouldn't make it a hard requirement to have their shitty launchers in the first place. I'm already playing the game through steam so I shouldn't be further inconvenienced by using additional bloatware on top. Seriously, screw publishers for even trying to pull this nonsense off. I have steam and i have a steam account. That's literally EVERYTHING i should need to play games on my PC. I shouldn't need to download any additional launchers, and i shouldn't need to create any additional accounts for those additional launchers. I actually hope Gabe will make it so SteamOS just ignores the third party launchers entirely so the customers can actually just play the games they purchased without jumping through annoying hoops anymore.

[@MichaelNROH]

In an ideal world, Steam would be the one stop place for everything, but as long as they charge 30% on other publisher sales, they will always try to find a way out

[@TuxTuxedo-oc9kg]

it's just the philosophy of Linux, there is not ONE single answer.

[@vng]

I believe SteamOS will allow the installation of flatpaks, which can help with adding things like controller customization apps (if they are packaged as flatpaks). Also, SteamOS has a desktop mode, and in that mode, if you install other launchers (like Heroic), you can access games from Epic Store, etc. A lot of stuff can be installed via flatpaks for gaming on Linux, actually. And as long as they reside in the user's $HOME directory, they don't get wiped out by SteamOS updates. The bigger problem is that publishers of competitive titles still mostly refuse to allow their anti-cheat to function on Linux, which means Linux users cannot play those games.

[@jokerphoenix3788]

I wonder what will happen to gaming on Linux if at some point Valve's CEO changes and he doesn't want to know anything about Linux. This is a question that really scares me. The prejudice against Linux is Valve's and I doubt that if Valve leaves the game, anyone will want to fill that space.

[@erikpoephoofd]

Why do you think Valve made Steam OS? It's to get more control. Microsoft can make it really hard for Valve to run their store on Windows, now they're not dependent on Microsoft.

[@MichaelNROH]

I'm convinced that if Gabe Newell manages to choose a succesor himself, it won't be that bad

[@ze0crow]

75% of players have Nvidia cards. Improved drivers could be the answer

[@unicornpoo7441]

stop buying that overpriced garbage then

[@BasicallySprings]

At least you're being honest. I suppose your perspective on this whole thing is "we should be cautiously hyped" ?

[@MichaelNROH]

Taking everything with a grain of salt is kind of the goal.

[@mickaelsflow6774]

"Michael, you don't need to sell it to me, I'm already convinced." 😏

[@jpedrothejo]

i hope one of the handheld that ships with steamos also ships to brazil

[@frontrider3240]

The deck already has desktop mode. Locking screens etc are there on linux already.

[@szyefan]

Never used it myself but judging from support messages in linux support channels on few non-steam games and some reviews It kinda aims to be immutable (hard to break etc.) as it awsome for normal user but it cuts away many customization options and sometimes even reverts custom repositories and packages. I would love to see unlocked version of steam OS. (Just noticed this was mentioned in video was writing this before watching this segment)

[@Versanitybutreal]

Honestly i hope there is an option to make steam os more open because on steam deck its made to not break by doing something

[@dedoyxp]

the thing about linux is that it doesn't have to be valve who will solve the linux gaming problem. Valve already do so much in linux gaming that it's fine if they focus only on steam deck or steamos compatible devices...

[@Nyx-221]

I feel like if you want a desktop, you'll get a different distro of Linux. But SteamOS Is basically aimed at turning the PC environment into a console gaming setup. I am now looking into building a small form factor PC using my spare 3070 to install steam os on it and treat it like a console. Majority of my library is on my steam account so it'll be nice to play it on TV with a controller or a wireless keyboard and mouse

[@VascovanZeller]

I'm genuinely confused about this fuss over steamOS when Bazzite was already freely available.

[@fotnite_]

It's a mix of people just not knowing about Bazzite, and only trusting stuff that is specifically made by a company

[@Renigen]

I mean, is it? I just googled "download Linux" (cause that's what people getting into Linux would do.) And bazzite is nowhere to be seen.

[@2greenify]

An officially supported distro by a rich company like Valve that brought gaming to Linux with proton, improved and drivers, vulkan, etc, etc. Bazzite actually did nothing significant. I'm confused why some people don't see the benefits of a valve maintained distro.

[@Juanguar]

Bazzite doesn’t even work well for me lmao Then again it’s probably valves fault for gamescope not supporting nvidia

[@CFWhitman]

@@Juanguar It's not really that Gamescope doesn't support NVIDIA; it's that NVIDIA doesn't support Wayland, though they recently opened things up to allow more support, but it takes time to develop.

[@ConsolasEight]

I switched to Linux because of my experience with the Steam Deck - I would never have made the leap without it. My brother, however, needs that focused console environment, which is where being able to turn my old Windows PC into a Steam Deck-like experience with SteamOS is going to be handy. Yeah, I could set him up with big picture mode but there will still be a lot of desktop stuff he will need to manage now and again if he has to maintain Windows or (preferably) Linux in the background. I think SteamOS is going to have a big impact for Linux.

[@justdude7222]

Does it support video watching?

[@omarashraf27]

The only use case I can think of for something like steamOS is an ITX PC connected to the TV in my living room. I wouldn't need desktop mode that much. I don't think I would want to use it for my PC

[@MichaelNROH]

It's designed that way, yes

[@tohur]

SteamOS does in fact have a onliner in terminal to log into plasmax-x11 or plasma-wayland by default

[@MichaelNROH]

Yeah, but it should be properly exposed. Even on the SteamDeck that could be useful for docked only appliances

[@Ravage64]

The reason its going to be a big deal is that it will force hardware manufactures and software devs hand. You want to sell your products? Then it will have to work with linux/steamos. Don't want to comply? Good luck staying above water with no consumer base to sell to. No other distro can (or has) been able to command that kind of authority. Once it officially comes to the desktop, it will have the same impact on the industry as Windows 95 did.

[@MrSongib]

If you talking about SteamOS solely for 50/50 about Gaming and Desktop, then all what you said is not wrong. Since most of the "Feature" is the gaming side of things. So, the desktop side of things can be later or they decide to "limit" since in theory could break the whole gaming experience side of things. But I can see they could unlock the desktop side of things and make it seamles to jump from big picture mode and desktop and jump from app to app with Controllers or Mouse and Keyboard. The launch of the Beta will be huge source for this kind of things for Valve. and tbh other game launcher can be good and bad for Valve, so they choose to "ignore it", and relied on the community instead. they didn't block some of the app anyway, and NVIDIA just add their GFroce NOW to Steam, so there is that. I think Valve choose to AFK and wait for the other Launcher to make their own Launcher on SteamOS. They do the right things.

[@JesterSeven-ww8nc]

The large majority of the SteamOS target audience could not care less about the 'problems' you mentioned. And the large majority of those who do will find out ways to work around them.

[@turbolenza35]

I'm so sick of Windows so yes : Linux & SteamOS are the answer.

[@mrgm148]

Gracias por habilitar las voces en español

[@anthonyhawkes4101]

I think it is the answer - not because it's got everything, but because it's got Valve behind if. Windows isn't so popular because it's "good" it's popular because it's got a lot of financial support behind it and because it's "easy" to use. The only other company that's mate a really effort in this space is Canonical but they've basically relegated themselves to being the apt alternative to the enterprise space. I would love to see something more interesting be the "answer" - but it's as simple as market capital, monopolies, usability, brand recognition, and availability. Valve might be able to achieve this, there is space for many distros but fragmentation isn't appealing to the average user, neither is the terminal. (Also forgot to say love your content, as a tech guy, coverage of things I might not be across or have missed that interest me is so useful and appreciated)

[@rwx-zach]

NVIDIA drivers for Linux definitely need to be improved DRASTICALLY before more gamers to choose Linux imo.

[@fastedwarrior7353]

Why not use Intel or even AMD GPUs? Nvidia GPUs these days are the most expensive GPU vendor. Also their new cards aren't as good as people think they are twice the power draw for the 5000 series for ONLY 30% performance increase.

[@77wolfblade]

@@fastedwarrior7353 unfortunately, Nvidia has a huge brand loyalty Consumer base, to ignore them would not be a good idea when it comes to Linux

[@robertgosz4281]

It's already good. Some small issues are still there but overall you can game all day, no problem.

[@dimashadziq6007]

@@fastedwarrior7353 unfortunately even 40% desktop linux user use nvidia, they are domninating GPU market.

[@MichaelNROH]

It's not so simple. NVIDIA, while being way overprices nowadays, generally tends to work better with Windows, which is why many use their cards. Making a new purchase, just to switch Operating Systems should not be required (* also looking at you MacOS)

[@heavy0119]

Linux will *never* be as mainstream as Windows.

[@vallenshield4236]

I am tired of microsofts malpractice to the point that i will be moving over to steam os as soon as it comes out.

[@DanaOtken]

I expect people looking for a basic OS interface as simple as they expect from booting up a console system are going to pick SteamOS, be mildly disappointed at first that it still isn't that basic, and may eventually find some flexibility they come to appreciate. People who actually "live" on their system would prefer a more normal Linux distro that can smoothly run Steam (which in itself is being synergized by the existence of SteamOS). Very often the value of a distro isn't embedded in the users with it installed but the reasons somebody decided to make and maintain it.

[@gamemaster54_TR]

only 2 things held me back: anticheat and gamepass games, if those came to linux i'll wipe my drive in an instant an install arch

[@KiraGaming-e2l]

Yeah no gamepass will never be on linux , about anticheat games idk maybe CS2 & marvel rivals work on linux i think not sure about rivals . Still linux is great for singleplayer games & some multiplayer games . I use lmde btw for gaming & productivity .

[@MichaelNROH]

I wouldn't be so sure of that. It all depends on the ratio of revenue. If enough gamers are on Linux and are not moving, Gamepass is going to be made compatible. If gamers don't move but there is still a decent share on Linux, it could also come. If however Gamepass + Windows generates an exceedingly high number of revenue then it might not come, but given that they are still expanding to other platforms I doubt it

[@TheAsjdj]

SteamOS doesn't need to be the answer, what it needs to do is switch people and see there is a alternative to Windows. Will it happen over a year? no. It will takes years and years before anything happens if at all. Remember people are "use to" how things are and that is "fine". This mindset is what is keeping windows alive. For the major part of users, out-of-the-box working is what people want. Until gaming machines / workstations and software supports linux out of the box nothing will change. Nothing will change if nothing starts a change.

[@Invid72]

Currently running Bazzite desktop on my gaming rig right now and I don't mind the immutable nature of the OS at all. At least with Bazzite you can layer components on the image and they will persist over OS updates. What I don't layer I install with distrobox and everything else is a flatpak. I don't see myself using SteamOS on anything other than a handheld unless they come up with a similar system.

[@punkbastrd]

Steam OS is the reason other Linux distributions are a valid alternative to Windows gaming. The success of Steam OS in handhelds will give success of Linux desktop gaming great momentum.

[@riskirills]

as a former windows user, i got hype to, but why linux user see this with pesimistic energy? why can't you be optimistic about this?

[@dimashadziq6007]

If you have experienced linux or accustomed to it, steamOS doesnt really offer so much than any other distro existed. For my point of view as 2 years linux user it indeed doesnt hype me to switch at all, but it overall good startegy to make people try linux gaming or linux in general, more poeple mean other company who doesnt consider linux exist will be forced to change their mind and decission

[@MichaelNROH]

Optimistic yes, but overhyping something will eventually cause disappointment

[@sven711]

If you switch to Linux I don’t see an issue in having a Linux dual boot system. So on the one hand the SteamOS which is stable and consistent for gaming and on the other hand some Ubuntu or other distribution for everything else. I find it more important that it runs stable and reliable than be a full configurable desktop OS, there are others in that field already.

[@fabricio4794]

People need to Leave Microsoft s trap,Let this company fade away...

[@kingof9x]

I have had a couple friends ask me for advice on how to get steam OS running for a home theater type, dedicated gaming machine. IMO I think a steam OS release will bring more people to linux. I also agree that steam OS is not the best distro choice for doing normal computer things. Steam os cant print for example.

[@referralacc1033]

Bro plz make kde 6.1 customization video. I subscribed your channel for kde customizations and now a days you dont make much such videos

[@Toa-Ignicus]

I tried both Nobara and Bazzite on my AMD-based Alienware Alpha R2(Steam Machine, but I couldn't get either to install. After the first restart, it just took me to an empty dialogue screen. I gave up and aborted the install.

[@Claymireko]

5:45 this is the problem with Linux support from developers, instead of focusing on a few distros in this case Stream OS every other "Linux expert/user" jumps at the opportunity to promote their flavor of choice (distro), for people that know the basics of Linux and distros this is no issue, but for the wider market common users/investors they only see a very very small user base fragmented into thing they don't understand.

[@m.heyatzadeh]

I think since Valve's main focus is on handheld devices, SteamOS won't add much to Linux desktop. Although with handhelds becoming more popular, more games will be playable on Linux without tlthe need to tinker and that's a good thing for Linux desktop.

[@jedipadawan7023]

Disagree. Reading a lot of comments online about how people are waiting for SteamOS to switch from Windows. People now want a replacement for Windows in a way they did not before but want a big brand name and 'One version' to switch to as a standard. A lot of comments on this and people waiting for SteamOS as their replacement OS. [Me? I am happy with MX-Linux KDE but gamers - which I am not really - in general want a name.]

[@ORRESWE]

I really hope they make a os that is easy to use for the averege user like me so the switch from Windows is easier and not so scary

[@GuyManley]

I do not believe that Valve could be on the hook for anti trust if they release SteamOS as a generic ISO. A few points. It would likely be a free download and not shipped with any system integrater PCs. So it would always be the user's choice to install SteamOS. As well the issues with 3rd party launchers on Linux are the responsibility of those publishers, not Valve. This is more a generalized Linux issue and access to desktop mode and alternatives like Bottles, Lutris, installing a launchers .exe in a Steam Proton prefix enables users to ''add 3rd party apps'' to take terms from the Apple/Google court cases. If Valve shipped a console like set top box with no desktop mode access, then I think there would be cause for an anti trust investigation.

[@andreasplosky8516]

If they release a good compatible version for desktop, I will delete anything related to the Microsoft Spyware Organisation from my machines. I am even willing to pay for it.

[@czromxl3182]

Lies or ignorance?

[@ordinaryhuman5645]

What's stopping you from having already done that with one of the many distros that already exist?

[@valerikitipov1389]

It will be cool and all, but just wait until there are enough SteamOS users and they all start claiming that they use Arch btw.

[@fakifumi]

Since now a day everyone own a smartphone, steamos should develop so kind of plug in to access cell phone for streaming or office or whatever basic computing need beside gaming.

[@erikpoephoofd]

I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean that you can stream games to your phone?

[@tropicalfruit4571]

So you're trying to tell me that this is not the "silver bullet" because on a current public version of their system made specifically for handhelds there are a few rough edges, that Valve themself say they're working on them and are part of the reason there's not an official desktop release? It's like saying the next AMD GPUs lineup might not be great because the current one doesn't have features that Nvidia has... Let them cook, let's see what happens instead of complaining about the things nobody but Valve has any idea on.

[@thechannelthatplantscrave5145]

Agreed

[@Hunnan1012]

Best thing to do is just get a steam deck or wait for the steam deck 2 and enjoy headache free gaming 👍

[@arrongamez1388]

I think nobara is a good distro, I'm a fan on fedora though.

[@IAmPixelRice]

I'm not a fan of arch based distributions, my recommendation is pick something more supported and more known for stability like fedora-based bazzite or nobara.

[@simonced]

Taking the steamdeck (or steam OS) for a PC is a mistake. The hardware could change, but the thing is playing games and that's it. Juat because it can, doesn't mean it should.

[@lucius1976]

On those handhelds SteamOS is superior to Windows already. Granted, some games do not work but that is the fault of the game developers. Once SteamOS will get track it will be fixed

[@beatsdtx06]

If Valve could make something like Lutris that come with preinstalled scripts for Ubisoft Launcher,Epic Games Launcher, GOG Galaxy etc... like when booting into SteamOS for the first time , we should get interface with all these launchers and we connect to our accounts and then all games it should be in library with all games from different stores in one place with a small logo on the cover of each game to know from which launcher it would be installed! this will be great and much easier overall! sorry for my english !

[@OraOraOra]

I get your Point and I'd also like this, but you have to understand, that Valve is a company. Linux is still an open Plattform, Valve at least doesnt hinder you from downlading 3rd Party stuff. I mean they enabled Flathub, ship with distrobox and nix packagemanager and they allow you to add stuff as non steam Game.

[@MichaelNROH]

I'm not sure they can, since it's probably kind of infringing on some licenses whereas a launcher is not downloaded officially

[@AyaWetts]

Why would they? Their main goal is getting people to use Steam and buy Steam games... I sure wouldn't do any official support for competitors if I was at Valve, its just silly. Its not like it hard to get any of those to work on any distro, even have those all working on my Steam Deck.

[@realskyquest]

​@@MichaelNROH There is umu launcher by open wine components, it has glorious eggroll, lutris, bottles, heroic devs working together to use a steam runtime to run windows games with protonfixes automatically applied and other nice features. Its gonna be integrated into bottles next and its already available on Lutris and Heroic.

[@Moskeeto]

It shouldn't be Valve's responsibility to ensure their competition works on Linux. It should be the responsibility of that competition. At the moment, there's already plenty of user-made tools to do the work for them anyway.

[@JökullBirkir]

As long the Linux community prioritizes their own ego above all, with bad business models and even more fragmentation, there is no light at the end of this tunnel yet… People just want something that works, windows (even how awful it is…) does the job…

[@ichrastegleichauslol]

man i hope they put some effort into steam os, windows is so bad lately, they always release junky updates instead of betatesting them first, and it triggers the f out of people.

[@marclrx2495]

At the same time, I myself don't think it's a big deal at all. But I've also heard of some people who switch to Linux because of steam os. All in all, I don't think it can be bad for the Linux desktop.

[@MichaelNROH]

It's never bad. Those who don't like the changes are going to move in a different direction anyway. Open Source and stuff

[@kabanchyk5661]

Bazzite was read only, and haven't command to change than, steam os has it, for example i can install zero tier one or hamachi and play lan games, but in bazzite i cannot

[@MichaelNROH]

Bazzite uses something calles ostree to install system dependencies. It's basically logging what is installed additionally, so you can rollback each change

[@kabanchyk5661]

@MichaelNROH thanks, I'll try it

[@ZaberfangX]

Problem 3rd party launcher Valve can do everything they can fix the problem if 3rd party launcher keep breaking after each update it's mainly fault on 3rd party not making sure works with proton or make their own for linux. It's why Heroic and Lutris maybe way to go for a long time until linux market share is bigger. If valve do drop steam os for everyone will be few months after gamescope just working with out any problem with nvidia.

[@JordanCardona]

I know that steamos is not a replacement for Windows but I think it's pretty good I have my own steam machine my mini PC that I built and if you seen DDR3 and it's going to use a Intel Xeon CPU and an 8 gigabyte card that I was able to find and it works pretty good for me was the games that I can currently run I don't have any reason to be with Windows anymore but I'm not saying that everybody needs to switch because there's applications that you're not going to find a Linux or for some stuff you're not going to find support but still I think it's a great 👍 alternative to Windows 10 and 11

[@mattias1234]

Excuse me but I have to play the devil's advocate now. it's not Valve's job to make sure that third party game launchers work in steamos, but it's them who should ask Valve to put their stores in steamos and invest in linux. But we know that it will not happen.

[@amputatedhairstrands]

@@mattias1234 spot on it doesn't make sense for valve to put effort into other stores if they put no effort in themselves, valve has been doing its part

[@MichaelNROH]

It would probably be a good idea though, since this can end in three ways: - Publishers just make Linux ports of their launchers - Each publisher makes their own "SteamOS" - Publishers sue Steam for not giving them a fair shot by first opening Steam I think that 2 or 3 are more likely to happen with SteamOS, since everyone seems to want to de-throne Valve

[@kriegjaeger]

Just need a browser and games with a file system.

[@vanodon2257]

I would never daily drive something immutable / semi immutable. but it does make i5 more idiot friendly

[@MohamadModather99]

Steam OS is based on Arch, just use Arch instead? You also get to say: "I Use Arch BTW".

[@mrwoodcat]

offline gaming is not really a problem. but online yeah..

[@ordinaryhuman5645]

online gaming is not really a problem. but windows only anti-cheat yeah..

[@vladislavkaras491]

I totally agree with the fact, that Valve have to redesign their UI for PC, if they want to target the PC space. Thanks for the video!

[@Ayliar]

This is part of the problem with people. If you just want a gaming OS then that’s all you’re going to do this might be great. If you want to do more like stream, productivity, creation, etc just use a user friendly Linux or Windows. Some of us just want a gaming OS for our gaming PC. We don’t want or need all this other crap, but here we go again. People want more and more. Here comes the bloat. People want their cake and someone else’s cake too. Just use Windows 11 and stop trying to bloat SteamOS. That or learn how to use two seperate computers.

[@KphexTwin00]

SteamOS will be the answer.

[@czromxl3182]

Haha

[@LaSpookyEXE]

i knew it steam os kinda sucks not to be negative but is far from ready

[@elbuglione]

Linux is the future of videogames

[@X-101]

Other problem that were AMD gfx card run as well if not better on Linux Nvidia runs worse

[@diligencehumility6971]

I just want a replacement for Windows

[@rpgmafia8363]

lets buy a steam machine

[@Renzo_Benzo]

mp games are going to be the thing that will kill steamos if devs dont port their anti cheats

[@middle_pickup]

Implementing proper user authentication, and full disk encryption should be a priority. Once Steam OS has that, I honestly see no issues for a large number of users opting for Steam OS as their main system.