Steelers Fans Will NOT Like What Rich Eisen Has to Say about Mike Tomlin after TNF Loss to Pats

[@dianej1714]

I'm a Ravens fan who appreciates the history of the Steelers. I respect Mike Tomlin. But there were several bad decisions last night. Tomlin looked shell-shocked after a couple of those plays.

[@romeou4965]

Tomlin was shocked by the awful offensive play calls by new interim OC. Head coaches don’t always hear or have time to chime in on what’s called before the snap

[@u2canbfmj]

His First Mistake was showing up at the Stadium... Steeler FANS can eat a bag of .... and G.F.Y after the meal

[@kiaadams104]

eww... ravnes. liked yall better as the colts

[@ronkali5365]

@@romeou4965 Hog Wash they can be on the same headset with the click of a button

[@Orxbane]

@@kiaadams104 Now they are just the Browns, but in an even worse city.

[@bane1240]

Been a STEELERS fan for 50 yrs. Have lived thru Noll, Cowher and now Tomlin. A few things are crystal clear right now: 1. This team lacks the necessary leadership to ensure things like what happened in the last 5 days does not happen on a team currently holding a playoff spot in December. Thats 100% on MT. Not holding people (like the diva WRs) accountable fir bad behavior and lack of effort is something the rest of the teams see’s and it divides them and becomes an insurmountable hurdle. Thats where they are right now. 2. Apparently nobody on this team is capable of consistent QB play and or play calling that provides an offense the kind of momentum to do what the STEELERS want to do. They run strange plays in critical moments so often that it defies logic to people who dont even know the game. 3. The defense is overrated and right now, decimated w/injuries. Its incapable of getting stops in critical situations until the game is essentially out of hand and the other team is satisfied punting back to a team they know cant move the ball. 4. The team does not take inferior teams seriously. This has been a hallmark of Tomlins teams for years. The hardest part of coaching/motivating is getting people to buy in and do what needs to be done when everyone around U expects U to do so. Its easy to get people to buy into us vs the world, buying into or creating an environment that results in beating teams your supposed to is harder. Tomlin sux at that. The common component here is TOMLIN. All good thing come to an end and unfortunately for Tomlin, he is at the door of that in PIT. 100% of their problems start w/him.

[@brucep9729]

Well said!

[@horatioradio]

Agreed!

[@TheGhostofTomMetzger]

Tomlin won with a team cowher built and since that core cowher left has dissipated and gone Tomlin has trashed the franchise.

[@bane1240]

@@TheGhostofTomMetzger cant argue with most of that. However Tomlin drafted Woodley, Timmons and made Harrison the starter. Thise were his moves, not cowhers and he inherited an 8-8 team and won the SB in his second season bcuz of his moves and Ben obviously. Made it back to another 2 yrs later and lost also bcuz of Ben and Rashad Mendenhall. From there, the team has been in steady decline (especially on D) and Ben was clearly the best player on the team for several years.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Every year he gets the "no coach does more with less" treatment but at some point don't you start questioning why is he always working with less? Pittsburgh is pretty good at drafting, they're just not developing their players and that's on him. He won his superbowl with Cowhers team and hasn't had playoff success in over a decade now.

[@FunkyDPL]

This is your reminder that TJ Watt has NEVER been on a Steelers team that won a playoff game.

[@theman1412]

Wow, at least in Houston JJ went to the playoffs a few times

[@jdot3334]

@@theman1412TJ scored a TD against KC in the first round and then they scored like 42 straight 😂😂

[@Bormannator]

​@@theman1412to be fair the AFC South was a joke most of the time JJ played while the AFC North is always insanely competitive

[@fluttershystayshigh4202]

Don't matter, TJ Watt is a beast! he nearly got his jaw broke last night and it didn't even slow him down.

[@drewobrien1483]

Wasting a LEGEND in the prime of his career

[@bzo3940]

This is the 1st time I've ever seen Tomlin look defeated at that press conference

[@Orxbane]

Good, maybe he'll retire and save us another lost season next year

[@richardgale1287]

Tomlin was looking more tired than I ever remember seeing him after a game. I'm still not in favor of ditching him, but I think he'd resign anyway with a (probable) losing season.

[@rizzomatt]

I was thinking the same thing. He seemed broken.

[@shoneel1309]

Maybe because in his long tenure he's never been in this situation. People be finding a way to hate on a great coach. Digging deep.

[@Steve16346]

I noticed that to.

[@crosscarter21]

As a Bengals fan, remembering hitting that wall with Marvin Lewis. I don't glorify people losing their jobs, but you know when its time to move...

[@FlyingGemSparkly]

As a 50+ yr Bengals fan, I second that cogent opinion sir!!! Lewis was burnt toast after 16 yrs!

[@jamesfetcho6315]

LoL comparing Lewis, and Tomlin. One has won a SB, and been to a SB, and one never won a playoff game....ever.😂 No comparison.

[@crosscarter21]

Comparison not in resumes my guy. But the fan discourse around it. Bengals fans were over consistently making the playoffs and getting bounced. If something is going to change, it has to start at the top. Just seems to me like the Steelers fans want a shift. But I could be wrong... @@jamesfetcho6315

[@fromthehaven94]

​@@jamesfetcho6315The most recent playoff win by a team in the division, it's not Pittsburgh.

[@jamesfetcho6315]

@@fromthehaven94 And.🤷‍♂️ Things go in circles. Problem is half the people running their mouths have never really seen a bad season.

[@mickeyk3873]

The excuses for Tomlin never end.

[@Orxbane]

After all these years, I haven't found out one thing he is actually responsible for.

[@nicksimonetti1976]

If he was another ethnicity he would of been gone.

[@chalesgolding5314]

I wonder why…

[@jordachejordan90]

​@@nicksimonetti1976😂

[@rareform6948]

@@nicksimonetti1976yep, blk privilege

[@Yuvan04V1]

I will forever be a Steelers fan but the fact we have not one a single playoff game in 6 years and probably 7 years after the season gives me the no confidence that Tomlin can turn this around. Mind you this stretch is the longest since before the Immaculate Reception game

[@erniejohnson677]

Get a quarterback that can actually be trusted to win. Problem is Tomlin to good for y’all to be losing that much. Check what he said to chase young mic’d

[@scottmaples6667]

Not playing Rudolph is the problem which means Mike duh is the real problem.

[@dicktanbomutumbe]

​@@erniejohnson677Is he too good? He's been the coach this whole run.

[@michaelcurd1923]

😂 spoiled fans... no respect for how difficult it actually is to make the playoffs.

[@jacobandrewuthe9884]

Boo hoo. I'm a Dolphins fan and haven't seen a playoff win in over 20 uears

[@StillersMX]

All the non-Steelers fans out there love Mike Tomlin because they don't watch the Steelers weekly.

[@wvuhoss15]

Exactly

[@ovo-vert2933]

I’ve lived in Pittsburgh the last 10 years im a Colts Fan, the Steeler fans I’ve talked to don’t want him gone but I think it’s time for a change

[@jessesarmiento1433]

No truer words have been said

[@josejh-eb8st]

​@ovo-vert2933 nobody cares what you or any steelers "fan" thinks though

[@jwt155]

Steelers haven’t won a post season game in 7 years. In the past 12 seasons they’ve only won three playoff games: one against the bengals who won the game but took a boneheaded penalty, another against a Matt Moore led Dolphins team, and the only legit win against an Alex Smith led Chiefs team. Rich can love Tomlin as much as he wants but the stats don’t lie, he’s not even close to HOF material

[@RandomGuy-vo6zd]

I wish I had the type of diplomatic immunity from criticism Tomlin has from the national media, Rooney’s and half the Steelers fan base

[@tucaz65]

Exactly

[@ScootsFromNewCastle]

It’s not that the majority of the fans dislike Coach T, we just think that it’s time to move on.

[@cameronparker7959]

Exactly

[@cr2lives]

It's not even the majority of fans that agree with that sentiment. The fans who feel that way are simply the most vocal. Ramon Foster called this out on his podcast, recently.

[@shanegiggles2108]

@@cr2lives that's because we saw this happening after the Jags debacle back in 17-18. He'll I saw this After Tim Tebow happened and felt the hole staff was done then but we weren't allowed to say anything at all. The evidence is here for all to see and now we don't have to be quite more and more steelers fans are agreeing

[@cr2lives]

@@shanegiggles2108 You're all allowed to say whatever you want. You're fans. You have your own perspective. Just because it differs from mine does not bother me. I typically just let Tomlin's detractors discuss their analysis amongst themselves. Even online, I only interject when there's a fabrication stated, such as here.

[@anthonykostelnik3148]

Amen

[@RhondaSanchez.]

We'll always be average with Mike Tomlin 😢

[@willb3018]

Sad but true.

[@timnor4803]

Steelers Fans let the bar become "but Tomlin never has a losing season" and there the bar sits. Wasted years and careers. Getting back to the Superbowl is more important than being 9-8 every yeat.

[@bla0208]

Steelers fans never bought in to that no losing seasons crap. It was the media that pushed that to make Tomlin seem like a good coach. True Steelers fans have been clamoring for this after the playoff loss to the Browns a few years ago.

[@wvuhoss15]

Steeler fans never did that. The national media who watch maybe one Steeler game a year do.

[@t.k.1319]

You have a 9-8 QB and a 9-8 OL. Talk to your GM

[@t.k.1319]

Who do you replace Tomlin with? Frank Reich? Another Sean McVay clone?

[@Orxbane]

@@t.k.1319 The one that took over the job this season and drafted well and actually addressed needs in free agency? That GM? We needed a new QB before Ben had surgery, we needed a new O-line before Pouncey sailed a snap into the end zone. We've needed a proactive coach and GM for over 5 years now.

[@UncleSnottie]

Mike Tomlin can be a great coach and his time in Pittsburgh could also be up. The Eagles once moved on from Reid. The Patriots will eventually move off Belichick. Any coach who stays in one spot too long eventually needs a change.

[@christophergzimbelman9977]

Exactly! It’s not just a coach thing. In human nature we all need change. It doesn’t always mean bad, just means there’s a better fit for everyone. We can respect Tomlin for what he’s done, but can also expect and want something new and fresh. Change is not always a bad thing.

[@tharengore7215]

I can agree with this, and maybe time Tomlin to change teams and reinvigorate himself. As long as its not the Bears lol.

[@briane173]

@@christophergzimbelman9977 I'm hearing the same thing from the same people about Pete Carroll. And Belichick. And Tomlin. And aside from being the three longest-tenured HC's in the NFL, they have one other thing in common -- they're all defensive-oriented coaches. Every one of them was born, bred, and corn-fed with the mantra, "Offense scores points, but it's DEfense that wins games." Of the three, the only one losing credibility by that measure is Carroll. It's not BB or Tomlin. The team is in disarray right now. Fans called for Matt Canada's head, and they got it. Now they think suddenly things are gonna change for the better when they fired their OC mid-season? Lemme tell ya, aside from Pickett getting injured, after watching that game last night it is as plain to me as the nose on your face that the skill players on offense _don't want to run their offense._ They have disinterest painted all over their faces and in their actions on the field. No hustle. No fire. This isn't your daddy's NFL. Today's young players don't wanna block, they don't wanna do the grunt work, they want the ball and will do the minimum amount of effort on any play that doesn't directly involve them and their star potential. And ironically these teams' fans are rewarding that level of play by calling for the jobs of the last handful of head coaches who coached teams back when the NFL was the real NFL -- when players would run through walls for their coaches. All they want are G.O.A.T. QB's and offensive gurus running the team, with flashy receivers and no RBs. Between NIL, sports gambling, and fans who weren't even born when most of these coaches got their start in the NFL, the league has gotten not only soft but QB-centric and individualistic. No more "You win as a team, you lose as a team." Sickening to watch.

[@JohnBarron-n]

No way, let Tomlin end his coaching career with Steelers, even if it's another 20 years

[@NikeAureliusSnow]

​@@briane173That "Defensive Minded coach allowed Blake Bortles, I repeat Blake Bottles, score 45 points in a Home Divisional Playoff Game, Never Forget.

[@ositofreitas]

He won 1 Super Bowl with Bil Cowher's team with two Hall of Fame coordinators. He was given that Super Bowl the same way that Barry Switzer was given a Super Bowl with the Cowboys. Tomlin's playoff record has been horrendous since then.

[@KevinJL]

Exactly

[@nileswillis7992]

Absolutely right. Just like Switzer winning with Johnson's team. It is the exact same thing.

[@NikeAureliusSnow]

PREACH SIR!

[@yeltsin3961]

True, Also like how Jon Gruden won the Superbowl with Tony Dungy's team in year 1 and with Dungy's amazing DC Monte Kiffin, developer of the often imitated Tampa Cover Two defense using 4 future HOFers drafted by Dungy: Sapp, Lynch, Barber and Brooks.

[@christismythesl]

I've been saying that since the second year after the Superbowl he won with Cowher's team. Just like Jon Gruden. He needed to be gone 10 years ago.

[@Shiny101]

I'm a Steelers fan and I appreciate Tomlin but also we both need to move on and restart. He'll be a culture changer at another team. I just think he's done all he can here.

[@obinneji]

I'm a Browns fan. I hope you get stuck on the crappy coach carousel and never get off it again.

[@pjkammer6801]

@@obinneji I'm a Steeler fan, but I still laughed at that

[@RPKraul]

@@obinnejiThat’s the risk, right? But look at Philadelphia moved on from Reid and after KC hired Reid. How many SB appearances between the two teams?

[@chriscoleman9237]

As a ravens fan I agree 100%

[@snake_king]

Bingo

[@DM-bu6to]

In 17 years Mike Tomlin has won a playoff game in ONLY 4 of those seasons. He is the most overrated coach in the history of the game. Enough is enough

[@chillsavage]

also his last 3 wins in the playoffs were against 2 backup QBs and kicking 6 field goals to beat Alex Smith.

[@70bluesville]

Love yah Rich, I'm a Steelers fan since 74. This team doesn't deserve my support with this kind of effort.

[@ronthompson95]

Isn’t 1974 the year Tomlin took over?

[@seandowney5549]

​@@ronthompson95No

[@draneym2003]

So basically you became a fan because they were a dynasty at the time. Aka a front runner.

[@jasonashley9853]

Totally agreed. Disgraceful performances back to back. This is on Tomlin and no one else. This team is falling apart completely.

[@stevecowder4774]

I’m also a long time fan from the early 70s. And we’ve seen the Stillers have plenty of ups and downs since those glory days but this 2023 team is an outrage. I’ve never been more embarrassed to be a fan.

[@Bi9Clapper]

Honestly what hurts me more than anything is the fact we haven't won a playoff game with TJ Watt. That's actually insane.

[@anthonyfesta7010]

It’s not his fault.

[@steelersluv]

I’m a life long Steelers fan. I love Tomlin. I was honored to have had the chance to meet and talk to him, but it’s time. He has to go.

[@jamesoncatlett6784]

Oh sweet jesus please do the Chargers need him

[@agonz162]

You had 2 bad games against improving teams with your qb2. Your coach is the ONLY reason you have a winning season. Temper your tantrums, it’s embarrassing for true Steelers fans

[@pdgoblue2518]

I'm a person who has hated the Steelers all my life, and please, please yes fire Tomlin. Steeler fans are so sickeningly spoiled after 20 straight years of HOF QB play you have no clue that Tomlin is the only thing keeping you out of football hell. But please, yes, fire him and get what you deserve. You're 1 more miss at QB and a Cam Heyward retirement away from football hell.

[@jesseharrison2873]

@@pdgoblue2518if you want a coach who can’t win playoff games, take Tomlin and enjoy him

[@PandasRViolent]

@@agonz162 Cardinals are 2-2 with their Franchise QB back, They aren't the same team. Murray makes a huge difference. As for the Patriots that's a different story. I'm also convinced Tomlin needs a strong OC, his teams are terrible at pushing the ball and getting it to the necessary people. Give Lincoln Riley a call match made in heaven. Lastly Trubisky isn't cut for the NFL, dude isn't even a suitable backup.

[@The_Bad_Guy.]

You're right Rich. Tomlin is in complete control and has this team heading in the right direction and all is well with the Steelers. The team is just as strong as they ever have been and are trending upwards. Great coaches lose the locker room and have the team a complete mess all the time!

[@kbbrown8154]

The standard is the standard is the standard.

[@The_Bad_Guy.]

@@kbbrown8154 hahaha yes it certainly is. And the standard is very clearly 9-8 and no playoff wins.

[@mageck1]

@@The_Bad_Guy. I dont see them winning another game this year.

[@edschobs5204]

@@mageck1I love the Steelers and I really hope they don’t! I’m tired of hearing the praise from national media about how great Tomlin is when the team hasn’t won a playoff game in 7 years and he’s in control of almost every single detail and decision made for the team!

[@johnnypastrana6727]

Are you sure? uh huh...

[@joeb2405]

I'm an old man but it still suprises me when other old men think 15 years ago was recent.

[@JP-xq7fo]

The national media doesn’t have a clue what goes on in that locker room compared to the local Pittsburgh Media.

[@SpiteOSRS]

Rich is part of the toxic media narrative about Mike Tomlin without looking at any facts. Rich you are a part of the problem. 2 superbowl vists were built off of COWHER's teams. ZERO noise in the playoffs in over a DECADE. 3-7 in the last 10. Lost to blake bortles in 2016. Rich you are a part of the problem if you can't see this

[@Mateogreat]

Also lost to Tebow and last playoff win over a back up and third string qb against Miami

[@scruffd0g193]

@@Mateogreat3 wins vs AJ McCarron a game they blew because of the hill fumble, Matt Moore, Alex smith.

[@hammill444]

Absolutely agree

[@colmyers]

Amen

[@colmyers]

Hall of fame Tomlin with playoff losses to the legends Blake Bortles Tim Tebow Baker Mayfield the corpse of Peyton Manning and oh yeah David Garrard. Defensive mastermind! Sign him to a five year extension! He blocks out the noise and obviously wants a different result and more fluidity. Blah blah blah whatever

[@shudderbutter4540]

I just want to know how many Steeler games has Eisen actually watched because I'm willing to bet it's not that many over the years.

[@KevinJL]

His judgment is altered because of his friendship.

[@edschobs5204]

Rich Eisen is a likeable guy, but these national media guys give way too much praise to a guy that has historically had a hard time beating teams ranked in the bottom 5 of the league at the time they play. I’d venture to say Tomlin has a sub-.500 record against such teams in the time he’s been head coach!

[@From-North-Jersey]

All Eisen cares about is Tomlin's melanin.

[@ChefRL19]

If you like not having losing seasons Tomlin is the right coach. I want playoffs and championships.

[@warrensmitchell]

Have fun being a one and done team in the playoffs

[@bigbuffguy9589]

Exactly. He's the best coach in NFL history for never having a losing season. If you want to win Super Bowls, not so much.

[@KevinJL]

8-8 and 9-8 champion

[@johnevans9751]

HOF?

[@Sarius58]

I've been pointing out the problems with Tomlin for the last 6 years. Loved him when took over. He was hungry and driven. He brought a fresh energy that was needed. But ever since the playoff loss to Jax he has been hot garbage. I started talking about this years ago and told I was stupid. Now everyone is seeing what was painfully obvious years ago. This is in no way a new development so I dont get why ppl are acting surprised. He has been losing to bad teams for years. And ppl like Eisen still defend this dude. Tomlin will definitely get a new job immediately if he leaves. But I guarantee he will end up fired in 5 years at the most. No other team will put up with this kind of complacency from their HC.

[@mikewootson2085]

U nailed it ever since that jacksonville loss hell that afc title game vs patriots that's when Tomlin really kinda lost its swagger

[@slim2248]

Tomlin is an awesome coach. He has literally turned nothingness into something each year. We often look to blame someone for the loss. Blame the players! The quarterbacks suck, and the defenders are often a second late....that's execution, not coaching.

[@christiansoldier77]

How is he garbage when he never had a losing season even with bad QBs? You will miss him when you get a coach that goes 4-13 three years in a row SMH

[@steelphantom9105]

@@slim2248. It’s Tomlin’s players that he wanted on the team your comment makes no sense.

[@steelphantom9105]

@@christiansoldier77. Tomlin a SB 15 years ago that’s what it’s all about not some meaningless never having a losing record. Tomlin’s playoff record 8-9 last time I checked that’s a losing record.

[@hammill444]

I just don’t see why Tomlin is a Hall of Fame coach.

[@Ice-Blade]

1 super bowl.

[@Omar-kt6in]

Ask the Steeler players he coached and the players on other NFL teams why.

[@Omar-kt6in]

​​@@chalesgolding5314 Maybe you have a problem with his skin color. Mike Tomlin was voted #3 for best HC by NFL players across the league only behind Andy Reid #1 and Kyle Shanahan #2.

[@hammill444]

@@Omar-kt6in Is Jon Gruden a Hall of Famer? Just curious

[@Omar-kt6in]

@@chalesgolding5314..Your making excuses and moving the goal post...SB wins alone doesn't make you a hof coach or player. How many SB wins does Dan Mario have.? None. How many winning seasons does Mike have.? The Steelers have always been competitive under Tomlin even without a elite QB in a AFC Conference full of elite QB's

[@nelcas50]

He was blessed with a hall of fame quarterback all his career at Pitt.

[@manolopmb]

So y that hall of fame quarterback didn’t get more playoff wins if you tryna give him the credit then give him the blame cause Steelers wasn’t feeling been since 2018 stop the bs

[@nelcas50]

@@manolopmb bro. I couldn't understand

[@nelcas50]

@@manolopmb he was out coached by Belichick 18 years

[@adial001]

As a forever Steelers fan......Sometimes it's just time to go. It's TIME for a change in Pittsburgh!

[@meghanmisaliar]

Agree. You can't fix something that no longer works.

[@keem7910]

I agree! Be careful what we wish for. Fans wanted Ben out & thought it’ll be so easy to replace a HOF Qb.

[@michaelmilsom9518]

Is it not possible to accept that even the best coaches have an expiry date with one organization and need to start anew. It isn't a failure really, more of a reality of the role and the dynamics. Andy Reid for example has found renewed success in Kansas City after struggling for a bit in Philadelphia at the tail end of his tenure there.

[@edmartin4173]

Philadelphia but yes I agree!

[@Duskthunder9]

The difference with tomlin is this has been who he was his entire career he never won a sb with his team

[@michaelmilsom9518]

@@edmartin4173 right...sorry....thank you :-)

[@sleepinglady2778]

Canada was horrible and never should have been OC this season. The Offensive Line is inconsistent. QBs inconsistent. Receiving core good but immature and i dont think they do the little things to help their team when they dont get the ball. Washington may have converted that third down last night if dj blocked. Keep tomlin bring in a real oc like byron leftwich plus he is steelers family. Im sorry but our defensive backs are inconsistent too. Consider getting a new coach on defense and special teams too. Staffing is an issue when player moral is this bad.

[@03Man11]

The difference between Tomlin and Reid is Pat Mahomes lol. For the longest time, Andy was simply considered an offensive guru who couldn’t manage a clock in the 4th quarter. He went to KC and it was a lot of the same until Mahomes came around. For as good as Ben was, he was no Mahomes.

[@Frequency1682]

It's the lack of competitive effort that's been evident for quite a while. Coaching changes happen. The longer Tomlin lingers in Pittsburgh, the more that H.O.F. coaching career will reveal the mediocrity it's demonstrating.

[@jjbbenjable]

Tomlin will have a job immediately once he’s gone…he can make that team average too

[@dynomar11]

Jesus dude gives you a super bowl and several winning seasons and you're saying he's mediocre

[@shanegiggles2108]

Without Bills guys. Yes. AB forced himself to be as good as he was ben was all talent no x and os once talent was done we were done tj is talent and so is safety I can't spell is name. And holding is allowed and tj gets hurt trying to mussel out of it.

[@colmyers]

Let him sign with the Commanders and go 9-8! Sounds good to me

[@Orxbane]

@@dynomar11 15 years ago, how long are supposed to hold on to that as a reason to keep him now? He was always mediocre, but his ability to motivate exceptional talent was enough to it him seem like he could actually coach. Now he doesn't have much exceptional talent and doesn't seem so good at motivation either.

[@tomleubner6880]

20 thumbs up 👍

[@mistersl8647]

When it comes to Mike Tomlin I think we need to separate the man from the Head Coach. By all accounts here locally in the Burgh and nationally from players, former players, and general sports personalities who know him, Mike Tomlin the person is a leader of men and a stand-up guy. Someone you'd want your son or daughter to grow up to be. Former players laud him and players from other teams say they wish they would have played for him. That's the type of person Mike Tomlin is and when I hear people like Rich and the slew of others who talk about Coach Tomlin, what I come away with is that they cannot separate the man from the Coach. As a man, Mike Tomlin has my utmost respect. But the results for Coach Tomlin leave a lot be desired. He had early success. In his first 4 years he took the Steelers to two SuperBowls, winning one and losing one. Since that SB loss in 2010, 13 years ago, the Steelers have won exactly 3 playoff games with 2 of those wins coming in the same post season. If you were an owner and someone gave you an option to hire a coach and they told you over a 13 year window he's only going to get you 3 playoff wins would you sign up for that? Would his regular season success even factor into your decision if you knew you'd only get 3 playoff wins? Think about the offensive talent this team has had specifically with Ben, AB, and Le'Veon Bell and let 3 playoff wins in 13 years sink in. And also throw in the fact that after year 13 you're going to be in a rebuild mode because you went all in on an offensive scheme that was not built for the NFL game and a coordinator who couldn't develop your young QB or your overall offense. Mike Tomlin the man should be applauded, Mike Tomlin the coach needs to be replaced.

[@meghanmisaliar]

Well said.

[@tucaz65]

It’s 14 years including this year. Well said

[@EJ23123]

Tomlin can most definitely remain an outstanding coach and still just need a new look - they’re not mutually exclusive. His act has gotten stale, they’ve missed big time on filling the holes over the years, and the entire team (Besides guys like TJ, Minkah, and Warren) is failing to buy in. I think it’d benefit both parties to amicably part ways.

[@josejh-eb8st]

What expert analysis do you base this on?🤔

[@russellstewart5414]

Who’s on your short list to replace him? Name 3 people capable of coaching this team. Picket is useless, Mitch needs to retire and Mason can warm a bench somewhere else. And our defense players should be freed from their contracts so they can play for a team that has the ability to get into the SB while they’re still able. But who’s on the list to replace Tomlin?

[@deaj8450]

​@josejh-eb8st Minkah quite literally said in a recent interview that he believes the problem is that many players on the team have not bought in. And also that they show up "expecting to be great just cause they're wearing the black and gold, instead of working for it." That's culture. That's leadership. That is just as much if not more of an indictment on coaching as it is on those players. We stuck around with a good culture for a long time cause the old veterans instilled it, but it hid the fact that it was a player instilled and not coach instilled winning culture.

[@vladchenkov9215]

They have had multiple champion caliber teams who could not even win a playoff game..

[@TheMrob25]

Steelers fans don't actually want to deal with the consequences of what firing Mike Tomlin would mean. If he goes and his replacement is the wrong guy, this team is winning 6 games a year for a long time. Yinzers can barley stomach winning seasons, imagine going under .500. Steelers fans say they would rather be bad for a better pick, I guarantee you they wouldn't survive actually having to go through it.

[@PeterSedesse]

Tomlin was a good coach when he had Prime Ben, Dick Lebeau and Cowhers defensive guys...Troy, James Harrison etc. He inherited the best possible situation. 1 year with a playoff win in the past 8 years. Pull up a stat of the teams who have won 1 playoff game in 8 years...and that is the real Tomlin

[@benjaminperez7328]

He pulled a Dan Bylsma.

[@M98-j9k]

Worst record of all time against sub 500 teams.

[@pattrandall8942]

This is what we do…who we are classic Mike Tomlin

[@seanwells18]

That’s exactly what he said 😂

[@CorePathway]

He almost sounded like Bill Belichick out there. 😂

[@bark-aholic6534]

lose embarrassingly?

[@collinloretitsch4731]

I mean if your cool with finishing 1 game above .500, and no playoffs...then ok.....keep tomlin. But this is a...how do i say,...."New Classic".

[@KevinJL]

Platitudes and word salad still wins over the Eisens and Greenbergs

[@manyourground]

Rich, with all due respect, how long are you going to continue to endorse Mike Tomlin for underachieving for the last 10 plus years? Honestly, why?

[@mytwosense9135]

I feel the same way about Harbaugh as some Steelers fans feel about Tomlin. They're both good men, culture changing coaches that bring class and steadiness to a franchise. They're both also stale, riding on long ago SBs and success getting carried by talent and ownership that don't sack coaches.

[@Intellectmatters2304]

Ravens Steelers might die if that happens, remember those games grew both of our lives 🤣💯

[@mobrown1198]

There’s a difference. The Ravens have a better front office. Harbaugh was a lame duck prior to the team drafting Lamar. Lamar saved his job. To Harbaughs credit he’s adjusted well. If not for back to back seasons of Lamar getting injured, The Ravens and Harbaugh would have at least 2 more winning seasons. He parted ways with Wink and Roman and hired replacements, McDonald and Monken. I don’t want to hear the crap about sticking with Roman too long… again if not for the back to back seasons with injuries, (can’t attribute that to Harbaugh) You couldn’t argue with Roman’s approach because they were getting results. Yes Lamar out grew the system, but was it Harbaughs fault for the poor WR rooms until this season? That would go on EDC….as “good men” strong leaders have the ability to adapt, while also maintaining a brand, a culture. Many Ravens fans feel the same way… and I don’t get it. The grass is always greener… Harbaugh fired Cam Cameron in that Super Bowl year, he was disappointed with Winks defense, and Lamar’s lack of growth and let both his coordinators walk in successive seasons. I can understand the criticism of Harbaugh for his in game gaffes. But he’s so much more. Regardless of subjective opinions about Harbaugh his successes far exceed his gaffes. I will say this, if the Ravens don’t compete for Super Bowls through Lamar’s new contract, I’m sure he’ll retire or his contract won’t be renewed. Like a said in the beginning, He was a lame duck coach, in 2018. It was his end. Lamar saved him, he embraced it, and “earned” his new lease. This current tenure of Harbaugh isn’t based on that Super Bowl. It is due to him “trusting” Lamar Jackson. Let’s see how it turns out these next few seasons before comparing Harbaugh and the Ravens organization to the Steelers. Unfortunately for Steelers fans, their organization has yet to move into the modern era of football. The need an organizational reboot. The Ravens have rebounded after missing the playoffs 3 of 5 years and had Harbaugh on his way out. They have raised the standard. Ravens organization > Steelers organization (Not historically, but currently) they have been mid for almost a decade now.

[@askmiller]

At least with Harbaugh you can point to concrete examples of bad in game decisions that hurt the team. If you were to measure the pwin impact of the outcomes of the in game decisions Harbaugh makes, it's pretty bad. Can we say the same with Tomlin? Tomlin led teams find a way to win when they shouldn't, Harbaugh led teams find a way to lose when they shouldn't.

[@kyledabearsfan]

Man, even as a Bears fan. Seeing Tomlin go would change how I feel about that rivalry game. Watching the Steelers play without Tomlin at the helm would just feel weird. Ill still watch with excitement though, 2 great franchises. I wish Tomlin the best though, hes had an amazing career and given fans a lot of great teams to cheer for (sometimes even when on paper they didnt have a shot). Maybe we need him in Chicago 😂

[@cozm1q14]

If they get fired they both get signed within 30 minutes and Winn a Super Bowl with a good team in their first 3 years there

[@alexspicer6043]

As a Ravens fan who respects the hell out of Tomlin BUT last night was a disgrace and embarrassing. Steelers need to figure stuff out so we can have that rivalry back!

[@Dragon-Believer]

Was it a disgrace? The Steelers aren't that good of a team. I wasn't surprised that they lost.

[@owen730]

Yet they still beat y'all earlier in the season

[@Man_Man410]

​@@owen730Yet y'all have no business winning that game, stop it

[@kimblandino]

Baltimore is 1-7 in their last 8 vs. the Steelers.

[@Man_Man410]

@@kimblandino Want me to pull up the stats of all those games. You be the judge of that then. A lot of those games it was my ravens shooting themselves in the foot. If you going throw up how many times a team beat a certain team, make sure you clowns tell the full story.

[@steelersluv]

Love your show Rich. Tomlin still needs to go.

[@denniscarney5249]

C'mon... we've all seen the STATISTICAL FACTS of Tomlins record. How his only championships were on the back of teams Cower left him. We have endured a decade of mediocrity and the distinction of having a winning record despite epicly aenemic offenses year after year.We have watched Tomlin ignore the obvious truth that Roethlisberger's arm was shot. We have been patient despite his failure to plan for life after Ben and while Pickett tries to develop. Is the fact that we're left to watch Tribusky and Rudolph entirely on Tomlin? No more than the offense was entirely Canada's fault. The "player's coach" has lost the locker room. ALL OF THE ABOVE combined with poor coaching decisions game after game -- those are the reasons he should go.

[@ChristianAlexander-b1x]

How many superbowls did Cowher win and how long did it take him to win them again?

[@shadowlazers]

Well Ben's arm was not shot.the o line was worse than now.ben still put up 30 pts a few times..s.d.....vikings..and maybe playoff game vs chiefs I forget. But if u took the time to watch in depth highlights he was throwing 6 yrd passes..cuz that's all the time he had..he still had zip on the ball and threw 65 yrd bombs..you could say ..nuh uh..or go watch detailed analysis of his last season

[@z0mb1e564]

One of the challenges great coaches face is that they elavate players, then those players get paid more than their talent is worth because the coach can make the most of it. That's why I think when you see a high level coach move on, their old teams collapse quickly and go into a severe rebuild. Meanwhile, that coach moves on to a new team and starts to excel again. It can be true that the Steelers would end up a better team after a couple years cleaning house if they get rid of Tomlin and that Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the sport.

[@Orxbane]

If he moves on to another team that isn't basically already a championship team, he will fail miserably. I think Tomlin is just smart enough to realize if he loses his "lifetime" coaching gig, that he needs to move into broadcasting or something else besides another coaching gig and get unmasked as the fraud that he is. His narcissism won't allow that.

[@chrismacola9945]

Part of being a good coach is that you keep the locker room stable. Tomlin lost the locker room a long time ago and has allowed a lot of things to go on that good coaches don't. He inherited a good team from Bill, he's had great players and has yet to capitalize. He had arguably one of the best NFL receivers in the last two decades, one of the better running backs, and still two time Super Bowl champion quarterback, and still couldn't do it. He's not that good.

[@crazypolock42]

Rich eisen obviously doesn’t know football. If he thinks Mike Tomlin is HOF coach He only won on Cowher teams and now losing without ben

[@Vinteroffer]

How it started: First team ever to have winning record getting outgained in first 10 games. How it's going: First team with a winning record ever to lose back to back games to teams 8 games below .500. He's accomplished a lot in his career. He's 100% going into the hall when he's eligible. It's time to move on though. If the Eagles can move on from Andy Reid and Doug Peterson the Steelers can move on from Tomlin.

[@galinswigart]

Rich, just because he would be hired quickly elsewhere doesn’t mean it’s not time for something new in Pittsburgh. Sometimes a good coach needs a change of scenery for the hood of both parties. I love Tomlin, but it just feels stale. 17 seasons, 4 playoff wins? That’s simply not good enough. .500 seasons aren’t the objective in Pittsburgh, as impressive as that record is on paper.

[@3321far]

Chuck Noll without Terry Bradshaw, 72-88. Tomlin without Big Ben, 16-14.

[@pjkammer6801]

Cowher without a franchise QB: best record in the NFL over his tenure.

[@shanegiggles2108]

16-14 so... 9-7 like every year. Standard is afc championship contender. Afc championship means top 4 team. Has an actual shot at a superbowl. Tomlin does not

[@jimmorrison9287]

That's not a fair comparison. When Chuck Knoll took over the steelers, they were littlery the wosrt organization in football. They had the wosre record for timespan from when they started to when he took over. It took him time to build the team into a powerhouse, so the first few years, their record were terrible, and Bradshaw didn't play in all of those games. Mike Tomlin took over a well-oiled machine when he became coach. Also, Chuck Knoll won 4 Super Bowls and went to 7 Conference championships. They aren't even close at what they have accomplished in the postseason.

[@chuckyjamesamartin1968]

Great, and Noll won 4 superbowls in 12 full years with Bradshaw, and Coach Fraud won 1 super bowl in 14 full seasons with Ben

[@spsawyer22]

​@@pjkammer6801cowher went 8-8 with Ben his last year. The Cowher rose tinted glasses are silly

[@Target_Buster]

Rich and Greeny need to start a podcast called “The National Talking Heads Idiots”

[@joeyperrone3168]

I was never a huge Mike Tomlin fan but I respect his win percentage and definitely respect what he did in 2019 when Ben went down for the season. But these issues are nothing new; losses to bad teams, looking completely unprepared, immature players taking over the locket room, bad clock management. I just think that now he doesnt a HOF QB to take the pressure off of him, now he's being looked at at the problem.

[@bioLarzen]

- The steelers haven't won a playoff game in 7 years. - As per Tomlin, "the standard is the standard". Do you think no playoff win for 7 years is the standard for the steelers, Rich? And if not - don't you think Tomlin should be measured against "the standard" he himself set up? ... and this coming from a Ravens fan.

[@bceazzy1663]

Sad I know Cam Heyward will never win a ring, and Tj will probably never see one either along with Minkah unless they go some where else…

[@ThorHammercoc]

Look the facts of the matter are Tomlin choked when he had the most talented roster from 2013-2018. He made 1 AFC title game with a top 5 QB,RB, and WR. He hasn’t won a playoff game in 5 years and has had terrible hires at OC and DC. It’s becoming more evident Cowhers staff guided him to that one title 15 years ago. The media has just been saving him by touting “he doesn’t have a losing season though!” But they bashed McCarthy for years for not winning with Rodgers. It’s complete hypocrisy. Saying some incompetent owner would hire him immediately also doesn’t help your case there Rich.

[@03Man11]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Tomlin went to the Chargers and resurrected that team. I’d even be happy for him. But it’s not happening in Pittsburgh. We need change.

[@chettiboi4129]

Rich I absolutley agree....as a lifelong steelers fan and living in pittsburgh steeler fans are so ungreatful. Did the same thing with chuck and bill...we only appreciated them after they left. Cant stand it

[@roundsaturn31]

Love you Rich, love Tomlin and love Steeler Nation. Will always be a fan as long as a Rooney is in charge. That being said, this time period that we are now in reminds me an awful lot of the feeling I had when Chuck Noll was about to step down...things were looking fine for a team that just lost a HOF QB a few minutes ago, but theese last two games are more than a little hard to take. One thing is for sure, NE owns us or at least Belichick does....

[@derikc24]

Tomlins Steelers are the same every year. They find a way to squeak out wins, and are never a threat in the playoffs. He inherited a great team from Bill Cowher for his only SB.

[@JasonQuinten]

Mike Tomlin is the most overrated coach in all sports..He has a playoff win in only 4 out of the 18 seasons in Pittsburgh. ZERO in the last 6 and only 3 in the last 13 seasons..There is absolutely nothing great about his coaching..Mediocre at best and that's giving him credit..He was gifted a talented roster with probowl and hall of fame players from the start.

[@chillsavage]

Steelers win despite him, not because of him.

[@IBallhoops808]

I’ve been saying Tomlin has to go for 5 years. He has been outcoached by younger coaches and Bill for years. He never has the team prepared. Get him the fook out of here with his never had a losing season a$$. Back to back losses to 2 win teams.

[@masterofallgoons]

It's hard to for Steelers fans to be pleased, I know... but it's a minor miracle that he has squeezed 7 wins out of this team at this point.

[@chuckyjamesamartin1968]

It wasn't his doing, it was fluke bs like 2 defensive TDs vs Cleveland, 8 drops by Ravens receivers in Week 5, and getting outgained in each of the first 10 games in now in 11 of the 13.

[@shawnevans1444]

Time to take note on Mike Tomlin can't beat any championship caliber coach. Bellichik owns Tomlin, and Reed, Shanahan, McCarthy, and every other playoff winning coach. He has losing playoff record! His style and "STANDARD" don't cut it in today's NFL! FACTS

[@inverter8416]

As a bengals fan its hard to argue against the sucess mike has had but something is broken there. I think the GM holds alot of the blame

[@jnyfumare]

I've been a Steeler fan since 1972 and I would love to see Tomlin resign after this season.

[@marshorne5608]

I heard a stat today that just shocked me in 17 season at Pittsburgh head coach he Mike only won a playoff game in 4 of them shocking to hear that

[@Kevin_747]

Tomlin is fireproof. Get used to mediocrity if you're a Steeler fan.

[@truedarius]

this iteration of the Steelers is taking years off of my life expectancy....

[@GSnizzle]

Bro this is too accurate 😂

[@shawnevans1444]

The younger players and new generation don't respond or understand what it means to be a Steeler! Need new coach and retool the entire coaching staff.

[@dodger1214]

I've been saying this for almost a decade, and people try to tell me I know nothing about football. Since losing to the Packers in the Super Bowl, they've won a grand total of 3 playoff games. In that span, they've lost to Tebow, Bortles, and Baker. All this while constantly being unprepared, playing down to their opponent, and losing to inferior teams. I get the Rooneys are loyal owners. But it's time.

[@SamnissArandeen]

And those wins were against a Dolphins team with a backup QB, a Bengals team with a headhunting Burfict at the worst possible time, and an Alex Smith led Chiefs squad that never gave up a TD and still rolled over. How's it feel that your last playoff win to date was the motivator for the team you beat to draft Patrick Mahomes and become the new dynasty apparent?

[@FrankHerrera-qr1mh]

Ditto

[@dodger1214]

@@SamnissArandeenOh man. Almost forgot about that Burfict hit.

[@brucep9729]

2 of those wins in 1 season thanks to Chris Boswell!

[@davidjon13]

FINALLY! Someone who gets it. I’ve been saying get rid of Tomlin the past 10 years. Also said Green Bay needed to fire McCarthy. Packers finally acted, but Steelers ownership LOVE those 9-7s and 8-8s. 🤢🤢🤮 Can you imagine Rodgers only getting to ONE SB, and the triplet killer Bs of Ben, Bell & Brown NO SBs?? Stellar coaching there for sure 🤮 ( 2009 & 2011 SBs were b4 the killer Bs were all together ) And the biggest joke is Tomlin & McCarthy MET IN SB in 2011!! 😂😂😂 Maybe Dallas v Pittsburgh again this year in SB so we can have another Tomlin v McCarthy?? 😅😅😅

[@jasonmizuno6117]

I understand people liking Tomlin as a man and as a friend, but what makes him HOF material. No Steeler fan cares about the no losing season stat. We would gladly take 5 losing season for 5 more playoff wins. Heck 5 more playoff appearances would even be ok. I believe since the Green Bay Superbowl Tomlin only has 3 playoff wins from what I remember. His Superbowl win was with the Cowler leftovers so we can't give him all the credit for that win. I believe he is above average coach but not great, letting this season go off the rails with Canada was a huge mistake. He needs to go.

[@JamesTetreault-g5c]

I'm a Patriots fan and it's been wonderful, over the years, having a potential conference rival with a coach who brings no strategy to the table.

[@DRAMz-re7oo]

As a Steelers fan I didn’t care you guys were 2-10 I knew we were gonna lose. Mike tomlin can’t scheme up anything which is why Bill owns him.

[@edschobs5204]

@@DRAMz-re7ooDemeco Ryan’s out coached him with Nico Collins, Tank Dell, and a rookie QB in his 3rd game. Almost a team of absolute nobodies….and they worked us!

[@2kolbe010]

@@edschobs5204 i tried telling people this. When it comes to game planning tomlin and co are not the top tier in that department. There’s no way.

[@edschobs5204]

@@2kolbe010 it’s wild how many teams on the bottom 5 of the league consistently give Tomlin led Steeler teams trouble. His record against bottom feeder teams(like bottom 5) couldn’t be good. It’s gotta be sub .500 or very close to it. I just saw a stat, in the last 7 games when the Steelers were favored by 5.5 points or more, they are 1-5-1….thats atrocious!

[@shadowlazers]

That's so good to hear..that no matter talented stillers were Darth bill..just knows every thing pgh gonna do..I used to despise bill..then I learned to live his no nonsense..and just love if football knowlege..hes also the funniest coach ever..such dry sarcasm..Bill's Micd up are the best

[@t.k.1319]

They are never picking early enough to get a good QB or fix the OL. That’s on the GM. Blaming Tomlin for Kenny Picket being injured is wild.

[@coreykopp3315]

Rich love your show, love your announcing games. Always been a fan, I agree with your views on Tomlin. I also a steelers fan agree not happy with results of the past 2 games but, with a sound mind am not jumping every week of a high and low due to results. Do I dislike our offense play right now sure. I believe our defense is top tier but also tiring due to playing 3.5 quarters of football week in and week out. I appreciate your views and opinions on this team! Keep being real!

[@Orxbane]

Our defense is not top tier. Take out Watt and our defense is average at best. Watt makes up for our coaching and scheme failure's and bails us out, just like Ben bailed us out in the fourth quarter for all those years. Exceptional talent has bailed out this mediocre coaching staff for well over a decade now, but every season of this bad coaching has eroded that foundation and now the house is crumbling. Tomlin has to go, and the sooner the better.

[@thecarguy4304]

He is a horrible coach. If he coached anywhere but Pittsburgh and wasn't a minority he would have been fired 5 years ago.

[@eddie623]

Rich you are the cream of the crop when it comes to bringing us the important news keep up the outstanding work my friend 👍

[@sirjimssirjims9047]

This is ridiculous. Who cares if hes gonna get picked up by aother team. His time as a steeler needs to be over.

[@waynow5]

I don't think I've ever seen Tomlin act this defeated ever. Or that could just be me i suppose.

[@meghanmisaliar]

I think he's depressed.

[@MarkGreene-h9h]

I have been a Steelers fan since 1972. Share the same last name with Mean Joe. Let's take all of this into context. Mike Tomlin coached the team to a Super Bowl win, coached an obviously insane Antonio Browm to a potential HOF career, is beloved by everyone who has ever played for him and has NEVER had a losing season. Ask Bears, Lions, Chargers, Raiders, Commanders, Jets, Browns and Falcons fans if they'd love a coach with no losing seasons over the past 16 years ..

[@willb3018]

Put it another way......how would you like to be a mediocre team for infinity? Tomlin won a Super Bowl in his second year with a team and coaching staff largely built by Bill Cower. Down to mediocrity ever since.

[@Hrithmus]

Like Tomlin but with everything even normal blue collar jobs sometimes it’s time to move on or be forced to move on. Right now it’s time. You had a hell of a run, broken records, will be loved in Pittsburgh forever. But it’s time. It’s about winning and right now it’s the worst we have ever been.

[@Big-Bone]

Unpopular opinion, but Tomlin’s biggest mistake was his choice in offensive coordinator, and in reality Matt Canada and Teryl Austin were some of his first actual opportunities to choose his own coordinators. He made a mistake with Canada, but that’s still a mistake that the former GM and Owner share blame in as well. Things outside of a head coaches ability to prevent/change in the middle of a season? - offensive scheme - execution (you can motivate, but a coach isn’t on the field) - injuries to key personnel (QB, S, WR1, TE1, EDGE, all three of your starting Middle LBs) - injuries to depth personnel (remember Cory Trice and McFarland in the pre-season?) - young QB speed of developing consistency and decision making - accurate and equal officiating - strength of defensive schedule I understand that Tomlin ultimately is accountable for a lack of playoff success in recent years in a results oriented business. However, context matters and choosing to ignore it to satisfy your need to take your anger out on someone is immature. I hate watching the team lose like this as much as anyone, but I go live my life after the game is over and come back to cheer our team on the following week.

[@kevinschindele4829]

Ravens fan and we said the same thing about harbaugh before we drafted lamar. If the steelers had a qb they would be the biggest headache in the north

[@charlesconner9044]

Fellow Ravens fan here, sometimes Harbaugh makes decisions that yearn for us to see him fired. Love the guy but damn his decision making has killed us in many games

[@FrankHerrera-qr1mh]

Tomlin had Ben, and that "non-losing season" stuff belong more to Ben than this clown.

[@kevinschindele4829]

@@charlesconner9044 yup you're right. I think his seat was getting a littlw warm around 2015-2018. Playing lamar probably gave him life again.

[@charlesconner9044]

@@kevinschindele4829 Lamar singlehandedly saved that guy's job

[@Hawkman007]

Firing a head coach that has literally never had a losing record for your franchise is asinine. You don't know what you've got until it's gone. Ask Chargers fans after they fired Marty Schottenheimer.

[@matriculatethefootball]

shhh, let them do it. they don't realize how bad things can be with a horrible coach. let them hire frank reich

[@j0ckel617]

Thank you! I'm a Steelers fan since 2015 and as a supporter of a currently second division german football (yes, it's called football) team I need to say, that a lot of other Steeler fans don't seem to know what it means to suck.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

Being bad temporarily isn't the worst thing in the world. The only reason the Steelers had a Hall of Fame quarterback for the better part of two decades is because they finished 6-10 in 2003 and were drafting 11th. Frankly, I would much rather bottom out and get a great quarterback than live in a perpetual state of mediocrity the way they are now.

[@mageck1]

I have been a fan my entire life, I lived through the bad teams of the 80s to the early 90s

[@pairashootpants5373]

Why are we even wasting time looking at the steelers playoff chances? The season is over! Im still a fan of coach T but theres something wrong with the team from offense to defense to special teams. Instead of talking about why CT shouldnt get fired, why dont we hear some analysis on what's wrong with the team!!

[@tucaz65]

He’s the head coach

[@steelpookie7597]

Totally agree with Rich in keeping Tomlin but my biggest fear as a fan is that I wake up one day and realize we (the Steelers) have become the cowboys who haven’t done anything significant in a full generation. They’re 30+ yr old cowboy fans with kids of their own who don’t truly remember the cowboys being great. They only know the stories their parents and grandparents talk about. I don’t want that to happen to us with some future Stephen A joking about us 😂. We should keep Tomlin but changes need to be made within.

[@tucaz65]

We’re already there.

[@boardmanfan]

Believe me as life long Cowboys fan I've witnessed 30 years of mediocrity and have learned not to get my hopes up each season. It kind of reminds me of the movie Groundhog Day.

[@mikemiller4817]

TJ Watt is 29 and has never won a playoff game? Things have gotten stale.

[@Fralsii]

Dan Campbell would be a perfect fit for the Steelers culture, but he's already a perfect fit for Detroit or else I would have loved to have him as the HC

[@Swedishchef70]

Bill Cowher 2.0

[@CD-gk9ix]

The game has passed Tomlin by.. he's a defensive minded head coach... we can go down the list Tomlin Belichick McDermott Rivera Staley Notice any similarities? Check where their teams are in the standings

[@jamesgoss1860]

"Full Elon Musk on me" Well done, Rich 🤣

[@shawnevans1444]

He'll the defense isn't even clicking now! No pass rush and can't stop the run. Still Canada ball. Most of the problems are the coaching staff!

[@Brutuscomedy]

Oh so the point of football is to avoid a "losing season." 👌

[@logos-tribulationreadychri2716]

Never won a superbowl without the Cowher team...as Bradshaw said.

[@TheIzzo1000]

LMFAOOOOO…the fact that Steelers fans think another coach could do anything with the product their GM has gave Tomlin to work with is hilarious. Once Tomlin is gone you’ll finally see why everyone else holds the man in the highest regard. I think it’s finally time for the Steelers and their fans to see how bad most of the teams have it in the league

[@mikko3]

Tomlin is average, you dont win with average. He couldnt replicate what Cowher did. He was given years but failed constantly, Steelers had great QB and defense but couldnt do it for years

[@cmdrfunk]

Tomlin should be saying they're a team that loses to losers because he's done it repeatedly for years. It's who he is. With no Ben to bail him out, he's only going to get worse.

[@thisdeep6372]

I read somewhere that firing Tomlin is a bad move because someone will scoop him instantly. Let them! Eagles let go of Andy Reid and Doug Peaderson after they won superbowl and still all three parties flourished afterwards. We gotta stop living in the past and putting Tomlin on pedestal just because he won us one Lombardi and doesn’t have losing season. Time for a clean house

[@cmdrbillpaxton4302]

Tomlin won one Super Bowl basically with Bill Cowher's team. Same thing happened in Tampa when Dungy left and Gruden came in.

[@bienvenidoperez3427]

Bill Cowher had a miserable last season for many reasons. That team did not win a championship. Mike Tomlin took over. That first year was not the super bowl. He then won in his second year. It was not bills team. It was tomlins. Stop with this narrative.

[@mikko3]

​​@@bienvenidoperez3427False, team was largely same when Tomlin took over. Soon as regime from Bills era retired, Tomlin couldnt do anything

[@chazd66]

Hey @RichEIsen when you talk to Coach T next week. I have business idea you can propose to him.....Coach T's-shirts. He can take all his catch phrases and print them on t-shirts. Because at this point they are hollow words. We all hear "the standard is the standard" blah blah blah. Why not explain what "the standard" is. As it seems to have declined from first winning Super Bowls, to winning playoff games, and to now just appearing in the playoffs. How much longer is it before "the standard" become no longer focusing on the playoffs.

[@Yo-zd3gb]

I feel like Tomlin is the only reason why we are able to pull off wins. Without him we’d be a 2-10 team

[@madmartigan8119]

We certainly proved we are on the same level as 2-10 teams

[@NotRiansLuke]

The headline assumes that Steelers fans still want Mike Tomlin around. Many of us do not. It's time for a new coach. Frankly, I'm of the opinion that Tomlin inherited Cowher's team, then ran with Cowher's HOF QB for the next decade-plus -- Tomlin has simply never built a playoff-winning team of his own. I like Tomlin as a person, but I think he's always been overrated.

[@georgeburdine5660]

I'm a lifelong Steelers fan, meaning since I was eighteen years old and began to watch them in 1977. And I count the days this guy agitates the asphalt. For seventeen years,he wasn't setting culture, this guy was riding the shirtails of a hall of fame QB. Now that QB is gone, so is any possibility of a playoff contention, and anyone reading knows that for a fact. Can't beat a good team, can't beat a bad team. Those few select wins were friggin accidents , right. The Pittsburgh football Steelers need an old school Tom coughlin style coach to put back legitimacy into a once great organization. All it's known for now is a great state of mediocrity. And everyone reading this knows that too. Come on Tomlin I know you got a 8-8-1 record left in you before you kick rocks.

[@corryarbuckle1314]

I'll quote Charles deGaulle,"The cemeteries of Paris are full of indispensable generals." Coach T has been Steeler's coach for seventeen years. Yes 17!. Tomlin was a total unknown in Pittsburgh when hired. There is no risk not finding another coach that can do as well, or poorly, as Tomlin after seventeen years in Pittsburgh. But it's stale, the magic is gone, the Steelers need a break, Coach T needs a break. It's good to know coach T will immediately find a job if he wants one after Pittsburgh. Allow Coach T to show the world what a great coach he is and coach the NY Jets. Stillers fans aren't mad, we're just convinced it's over. Time to move on.

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My favorite Penguin was The Jag, Jaromir Jagr. Won the Stanley Cup his 1st two seasons in the NHL. Ten years in, he wanted out, away from the Penguins. I hated to see him go. Lemieux bent over backward to keep him. But it was over. It was just over. Nothing lasts forever.