This is the 1st time I've ever seen Tomlin look defeated at that press conference
@Orxbane8 ай бұрын
Good, maybe he'll retire and save us another lost season next year
@richardgale12878 ай бұрын
Tomlin was looking more tired than I ever remember seeing him after a game. I'm still not in favor of ditching him, but I think he'd resign anyway with a (probable) losing season.
@rizzomatt8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. He seemed broken.
@shoneel13098 ай бұрын
Maybe because in his long tenure he's never been in this situation. People be finding a way to hate on a great coach. Digging deep.
@Steve163468 ай бұрын
I noticed that to.
@FunkyDPL8 ай бұрын
This is your reminder that TJ Watt has NEVER been on a Steelers team that won a playoff game.
@theman14128 ай бұрын
Wow, at least in Houston JJ went to the playoffs a few times
@jdot33348 ай бұрын
@@theman1412TJ scored a TD against KC in the first round and then they scored like 42 straight 😂😂
@Bormannator8 ай бұрын
@@theman1412to be fair the AFC South was a joke most of the time JJ played while the AFC North is always insanely competitive
@fluttershystayshigh42028 ай бұрын
Don't matter, TJ Watt is a beast! he nearly got his jaw broke last night and it didn't even slow him down.
@drewobrien14838 ай бұрын
Wasting a LEGEND in the prime of his career
@crosscarter218 ай бұрын
As a Bengals fan, remembering hitting that wall with Marvin Lewis. I don't glorify people losing their jobs, but you know when its time to move...
@FlyingGemSparkly8 ай бұрын
As a 50+ yr Bengals fan, I second that cogent opinion sir!!! Lewis was burnt toast after 16 yrs!
@jamesfetcho63158 ай бұрын
LoL comparing Lewis, and Tomlin. One has won a SB, and been to a SB, and one never won a playoff game....ever.😂 No comparison.
@crosscarter218 ай бұрын
Comparison not in resumes my guy. But the fan discourse around it. Bengals fans were over consistently making the playoffs and getting bounced. If something is going to change, it has to start at the top. Just seems to me like the Steelers fans want a shift. But I could be wrong... @@jamesfetcho6315
@fromthehaven948 ай бұрын
@@jamesfetcho6315The most recent playoff win by a team in the division, it's not Pittsburgh.
@jamesfetcho63158 ай бұрын
@@fromthehaven94 And.🤷♂️ Things go in circles. Problem is half the people running their mouths have never really seen a bad season.
@bane12408 ай бұрын
Been a STEELERS fan for 50 yrs. Have lived thru Noll, Cowher and now Tomlin. A few things are crystal clear right now: 1. This team lacks the necessary leadership to ensure things like what happened in the last 5 days does not happen on a team currently holding a playoff spot in December. Thats 100% on MT. Not holding people (like the diva WRs) accountable fir bad behavior and lack of effort is something the rest of the teams see’s and it divides them and becomes an insurmountable hurdle. Thats where they are right now. 2. Apparently nobody on this team is capable of consistent QB play and or play calling that provides an offense the kind of momentum to do what the STEELERS want to do. They run strange plays in critical moments so often that it defies logic to people who dont even know the game. 3. The defense is overrated and right now, decimated w/injuries. Its incapable of getting stops in critical situations until the game is essentially out of hand and the other team is satisfied punting back to a team they know cant move the ball. 4. The team does not take inferior teams seriously. This has been a hallmark of Tomlins teams for years. The hardest part of coaching/motivating is getting people to buy in and do what needs to be done when everyone around U expects U to do so. Its easy to get people to buy into us vs the world, buying into or creating an environment that results in beating teams your supposed to is harder. Tomlin sux at that. The common component here is TOMLIN. All good thing come to an end and unfortunately for Tomlin, he is at the door of that in PIT. 100% of their problems start w/him.
@brucep97298 ай бұрын
Well said!
@officalcdkandhoratio8 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@TheGhostofTomMetzger8 ай бұрын
Tomlin won with a team cowher built and since that core cowher left has dissipated and gone Tomlin has trashed the franchise.
@bane12408 ай бұрын
@@TheGhostofTomMetzger cant argue with most of that. However Tomlin drafted Woodley, Timmons and made Harrison the starter. Thise were his moves, not cowhers and he inherited an 8-8 team and won the SB in his second season bcuz of his moves and Ben obviously. Made it back to another 2 yrs later and lost also bcuz of Ben and Rashad Mendenhall. From there, the team has been in steady decline (especially on D) and Ben was clearly the best player on the team for several years.
@Aaron-kj8dv8 ай бұрын
Every year he gets the "no coach does more with less" treatment but at some point don't you start questioning why is he always working with less? Pittsburgh is pretty good at drafting, they're just not developing their players and that's on him. He won his superbowl with Cowhers team and hasn't had playoff success in over a decade now.
@dianej17148 ай бұрын
I'm a Ravens fan who appreciates the history of the Steelers. I respect Mike Tomlin. But there were several bad decisions last night. Tomlin looked shell-shocked after a couple of those plays.
@romeou49658 ай бұрын
Tomlin was shocked by the awful offensive play calls by new interim OC. Head coaches don’t always hear or have time to chime in on what’s called before the snap
@u2canbfmj8 ай бұрын
His First Mistake was showing up at the Stadium... Steeler FANS can eat a bag of .... and G.F.Y after the meal
@kiaadams1048 ай бұрын
eww... ravnes. liked yall better as the colts
@ronkali53658 ай бұрын
@@romeou4965 Hog Wash they can be on the same headset with the click of a button
@Orxbane8 ай бұрын
@@kiaadams104 Now they are just the Browns, but in an even worse city.
@mickeyk38738 ай бұрын
The excuses for Tomlin never end.
@Orxbane8 ай бұрын
After all these years, I haven't found out one thing he is actually responsible for.
@nicksimonetti19768 ай бұрын
If he was another ethnicity he would of been gone.
@chalesgolding53148 ай бұрын
I wonder why…
@jordachejordan908 ай бұрын
@@nicksimonetti1976😂
@rareform69488 ай бұрын
@@nicksimonetti1976yep, blk privilege
@RandomGuy-vo6zd8 ай бұрын
I wish I had the type of diplomatic immunity from criticism Tomlin has from the national media, Rooney’s and half the Steelers fan base
@tucaz658 ай бұрын
Exactly
@RhondaSanchez.8 ай бұрын
We'll always be average with Mike Tomlin 😢
@willb30188 ай бұрын
Sad but true.
@timnor48038 ай бұрын
Steelers Fans let the bar become "but Tomlin never has a losing season" and there the bar sits. Wasted years and careers. Getting back to the Superbowl is more important than being 9-8 every yeat.
@slayer456378 ай бұрын
Steelers fans never bought in to that no losing seasons crap. It was the media that pushed that to make Tomlin seem like a good coach. True Steelers fans have been clamoring for this after the playoff loss to the Browns a few years ago.
@wvuhoss158 ай бұрын
Steeler fans never did that. The national media who watch maybe one Steeler game a year do.
@t.k.13198 ай бұрын
You have a 9-8 QB and a 9-8 OL. Talk to your GM
@t.k.13198 ай бұрын
Who do you replace Tomlin with? Frank Reich? Another Sean McVay clone?
@Orxbane8 ай бұрын
@@t.k.1319 The one that took over the job this season and drafted well and actually addressed needs in free agency? That GM? We needed a new QB before Ben had surgery, we needed a new O-line before Pouncey sailed a snap into the end zone. We've needed a proactive coach and GM for over 5 years now.
@Yuvan04V18 ай бұрын
I will forever be a Steelers fan but the fact we have not one a single playoff game in 6 years and probably 7 years after the season gives me the no confidence that Tomlin can turn this around. Mind you this stretch is the longest since before the Immaculate Reception game
@erniejohnson6778 ай бұрын
Get a quarterback that can actually be trusted to win. Problem is Tomlin to good for y’all to be losing that much. Check what he said to chase young mic’d
@scottmaples66678 ай бұрын
Not playing Rudolph is the problem which means Mike duh is the real problem.
@dicktanbomutumbe8 ай бұрын
@@erniejohnson677Is he too good? He's been the coach this whole run.
@michaelcurd19238 ай бұрын
😂 spoiled fans... no respect for how difficult it actually is to make the playoffs.
@jacobandrewuthe98848 ай бұрын
Boo hoo. I'm a Dolphins fan and haven't seen a playoff win in over 20 uears
@UncleSnottie8 ай бұрын
Mike Tomlin can be a great coach and his time in Pittsburgh could also be up. The Eagles once moved on from Reid. The Patriots will eventually move off Belichick. Any coach who stays in one spot too long eventually needs a change.
@christophergzimbelman99778 ай бұрын
Exactly! It’s not just a coach thing. In human nature we all need change. It doesn’t always mean bad, just means there’s a better fit for everyone. We can respect Tomlin for what he’s done, but can also expect and want something new and fresh. Change is not always a bad thing.
@tharengore72158 ай бұрын
I can agree with this, and maybe time Tomlin to change teams and reinvigorate himself. As long as its not the Bears lol.
@briane1738 ай бұрын
@@christophergzimbelman9977 I'm hearing the same thing from the same people about Pete Carroll. And Belichick. And Tomlin. And aside from being the three longest-tenured HC's in the NFL, they have one other thing in common -- they're all defensive-oriented coaches. Every one of them was born, bred, and corn-fed with the mantra, "Offense scores points, but it's DEfense that wins games." Of the three, the only one losing credibility by that measure is Carroll. It's not BB or Tomlin. The team is in disarray right now. Fans called for Matt Canada's head, and they got it. Now they think suddenly things are gonna change for the better when they fired their OC mid-season? Lemme tell ya, aside from Pickett getting injured, after watching that game last night it is as plain to me as the nose on your face that the skill players on offense _don't want to run their offense._ They have disinterest painted all over their faces and in their actions on the field. No hustle. No fire. This isn't your daddy's NFL. Today's young players don't wanna block, they don't wanna do the grunt work, they want the ball and will do the minimum amount of effort on any play that doesn't directly involve them and their star potential. And ironically these teams' fans are rewarding that level of play by calling for the jobs of the last handful of head coaches who coached teams back when the NFL was the real NFL -- when players would run through walls for their coaches. All they want are G.O.A.T. QB's and offensive gurus running the team, with flashy receivers and no RBs. Between NIL, sports gambling, and fans who weren't even born when most of these coaches got their start in the NFL, the league has gotten not only soft but QB-centric and individualistic. No more "You win as a team, you lose as a team." Sickening to watch.
@troll-fx2zc8 ай бұрын
No way, let Tomlin end his coaching career with Steelers, even if it's another 20 years
@NikeAureliusSnow8 ай бұрын
@@briane173That "Defensive Minded coach allowed Blake Bortles, I repeat Blake Bottles, score 45 points in a Home Divisional Playoff Game, Never Forget.
@IxXDOMINATORXxI8 ай бұрын
Honestly what hurts me more than anything is the fact we haven't won a playoff game with TJ Watt. That's actually insane.
@anthonyfesta70108 ай бұрын
It’s not his fault.
@ScootsFromNewCastle8 ай бұрын
It’s not that the majority of the fans dislike Coach T, we just think that it’s time to move on.
@cameronparker79598 ай бұрын
Exactly
@cr2lives8 ай бұрын
It's not even the majority of fans that agree with that sentiment. The fans who feel that way are simply the most vocal. Ramon Foster called this out on his podcast, recently.
@shanegiggles21088 ай бұрын
@@cr2lives that's because we saw this happening after the Jags debacle back in 17-18. He'll I saw this After Tim Tebow happened and felt the hole staff was done then but we weren't allowed to say anything at all. The evidence is here for all to see and now we don't have to be quite more and more steelers fans are agreeing
@cr2lives8 ай бұрын
@@shanegiggles2108 You're all allowed to say whatever you want. You're fans. You have your own perspective. Just because it differs from mine does not bother me. I typically just let Tomlin's detractors discuss their analysis amongst themselves. Even online, I only interject when there's a fabrication stated, such as here.
@anthonykostelnik31488 ай бұрын
Amen
@StillersMX8 ай бұрын
All the non-Steelers fans out there love Mike Tomlin because they don't watch the Steelers weekly.
@wvuhoss158 ай бұрын
Exactly
@ovo-vert29338 ай бұрын
I’ve lived in Pittsburgh the last 10 years im a Colts Fan, the Steeler fans I’ve talked to don’t want him gone but I think it’s time for a change
@jessesarmiento14338 ай бұрын
No truer words have been said
@josejh-eb8st8 ай бұрын
@ovo-vert2933 nobody cares what you or any steelers "fan" thinks though
@jwt1558 ай бұрын
Steelers haven’t won a post season game in 7 years. In the past 12 seasons they’ve only won three playoff games: one against the bengals who won the game but took a boneheaded penalty, another against a Matt Moore led Dolphins team, and the only legit win against an Alex Smith led Chiefs team. Rich can love Tomlin as much as he wants but the stats don’t lie, he’s not even close to HOF material
@ositofreitas8 ай бұрын
He won 1 Super Bowl with Bil Cowher's team with two Hall of Fame coordinators. He was given that Super Bowl the same way that Barry Switzer was given a Super Bowl with the Cowboys. Tomlin's playoff record has been horrendous since then.
@KevinJL8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@nileswillis79928 ай бұрын
Absolutely right. Just like Switzer winning with Johnson's team. It is the exact same thing.
@NikeAureliusSnow8 ай бұрын
PREACH SIR!
@yeltsin39618 ай бұрын
True, Also like how Jon Gruden won the Superbowl with Tony Dungy's team in year 1 and with Dungy's amazing DC Monte Kiffin, developer of the often imitated Tampa Cover Two defense using 4 future HOFers drafted by Dungy: Sapp, Lynch, Barber and Brooks.
@christismythesl8 ай бұрын
I've been saying that since the second year after the Superbowl he won with Cowher's team. Just like Jon Gruden. He needed to be gone 10 years ago.
@shudderbutter45408 ай бұрын
I just want to know how many Steeler games has Eisen actually watched because I'm willing to bet it's not that many over the years.
@KevinJL8 ай бұрын
His judgment is altered because of his friendship.
@edschobs52048 ай бұрын
Rich Eisen is a likeable guy, but these national media guys give way too much praise to a guy that has historically had a hard time beating teams ranked in the bottom 5 of the league at the time they play. I’d venture to say Tomlin has a sub-.500 record against such teams in the time he’s been head coach!
@From-North-Jersey8 ай бұрын
All Eisen cares about is Tomlin's melanin.
@joeb24058 ай бұрын
I'm an old man but it still suprises me when other old men think 15 years ago was recent.
@hammill4448 ай бұрын
I just don’t see why Tomlin is a Hall of Fame coach.
@Ice-Blade8 ай бұрын
1 super bowl.
@Omar-kt6in8 ай бұрын
Ask the Steeler players he coached and the players on other NFL teams why.
@Omar-kt6in8 ай бұрын
@@chalesgolding5314 Maybe you have a problem with his skin color. Mike Tomlin was voted #3 for best HC by NFL players across the league only behind Andy Reid #1 and Kyle Shanahan #2.
@hammill4448 ай бұрын
@@Omar-kt6in Is Jon Gruden a Hall of Famer? Just curious
@Omar-kt6in8 ай бұрын
@@chalesgolding5314..Your making excuses and moving the goal post...SB wins alone doesn't make you a hof coach or player. How many SB wins does Dan Mario have.? None. How many winning seasons does Mike have.? The Steelers have always been competitive under Tomlin even without a elite QB in a AFC Conference full of elite QB's
@JP-xq7fo8 ай бұрын
The national media doesn’t have a clue what goes on in that locker room compared to the local Pittsburgh Media.
@nelcas508 ай бұрын
He was blessed with a hall of fame quarterback all his career at Pitt.
@manolopmb8 ай бұрын
So y that hall of fame quarterback didn’t get more playoff wins if you tryna give him the credit then give him the blame cause Steelers wasn’t feeling been since 2018 stop the bs
@nelcas508 ай бұрын
@@manolopmb bro. I couldn't understand
@nelcas508 ай бұрын
@@manolopmb he was out coached by Belichick 18 years
@SpiteOSRS8 ай бұрын
Rich is part of the toxic media narrative about Mike Tomlin without looking at any facts. Rich you are a part of the problem. 2 superbowl vists were built off of COWHER's teams. ZERO noise in the playoffs in over a DECADE. 3-7 in the last 10. Lost to blake bortles in 2016. Rich you are a part of the problem if you can't see this
@Mateogreat8 ай бұрын
Also lost to Tebow and last playoff win over a back up and third string qb against Miami
@scruffd0g1938 ай бұрын
@@Mateogreat3 wins vs AJ McCarron a game they blew because of the hill fumble, Matt Moore, Alex smith.
@hammill4448 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree
@colmyers8 ай бұрын
Amen
@colmyers8 ай бұрын
Hall of fame Tomlin with playoff losses to the legends Blake Bortles Tim Tebow Baker Mayfield the corpse of Peyton Manning and oh yeah David Garrard. Defensive mastermind! Sign him to a five year extension! He blocks out the noise and obviously wants a different result and more fluidity. Blah blah blah whatever
@70bluesville8 ай бұрын
Love yah Rich, I'm a Steelers fan since 74. This team doesn't deserve my support with this kind of effort.
@ronthompson958 ай бұрын
Isn’t 1974 the year Tomlin took over?
@seandowney55498 ай бұрын
@@ronthompson95No
@draneym20038 ай бұрын
So basically you became a fan because they were a dynasty at the time. Aka a front runner.
@jasonashley98538 ай бұрын
Totally agreed. Disgraceful performances back to back. This is on Tomlin and no one else. This team is falling apart completely.
@stevecowder47748 ай бұрын
I’m also a long time fan from the early 70s. And we’ve seen the Stillers have plenty of ups and downs since those glory days but this 2023 team is an outrage. I’ve never been more embarrassed to be a fan.
@Target_Buster8 ай бұрын
Rich and Greeny need to start a podcast called “The National Talking Heads Idiots”
@Sarius588 ай бұрын
I've been pointing out the problems with Tomlin for the last 6 years. Loved him when took over. He was hungry and driven. He brought a fresh energy that was needed. But ever since the playoff loss to Jax he has been hot garbage. I started talking about this years ago and told I was stupid. Now everyone is seeing what was painfully obvious years ago. This is in no way a new development so I dont get why ppl are acting surprised. He has been losing to bad teams for years. And ppl like Eisen still defend this dude. Tomlin will definitely get a new job immediately if he leaves. But I guarantee he will end up fired in 5 years at the most. No other team will put up with this kind of complacency from their HC.
@mikewootson20858 ай бұрын
U nailed it ever since that jacksonville loss hell that afc title game vs patriots that's when Tomlin really kinda lost its swagger
@slim22488 ай бұрын
Tomlin is an awesome coach. He has literally turned nothingness into something each year. We often look to blame someone for the loss. Blame the players! The quarterbacks suck, and the defenders are often a second late....that's execution, not coaching.
@christiansoldier778 ай бұрын
How is he garbage when he never had a losing season even with bad QBs? You will miss him when you get a coach that goes 4-13 three years in a row SMH
@steelphantom91058 ай бұрын
@@slim2248. It’s Tomlin’s players that he wanted on the team your comment makes no sense.
@steelphantom91058 ай бұрын
@@christiansoldier77. Tomlin a SB 15 years ago that’s what it’s all about not some meaningless never having a losing record. Tomlin’s playoff record 8-9 last time I checked that’s a losing record.
@Shiny1018 ай бұрын
I'm a Steelers fan and I appreciate Tomlin but also we both need to move on and restart. He'll be a culture changer at another team. I just think he's done all he can here.
@obinneji8 ай бұрын
I'm a Browns fan. I hope you get stuck on the crappy coach carousel and never get off it again.
@pjkammer68018 ай бұрын
@@obinneji I'm a Steeler fan, but I still laughed at that
@RPKraul8 ай бұрын
@@obinnejiThat’s the risk, right? But look at Philadelphia moved on from Reid and after KC hired Reid. How many SB appearances between the two teams?
@chriscoleman92378 ай бұрын
As a ravens fan I agree 100%
@snake_king8 ай бұрын
Bingo
@steelersluv8 ай бұрын
I’m a life long Steelers fan. I love Tomlin. I was honored to have had the chance to meet and talk to him, but it’s time. He has to go.
@jamesoncatlett67848 ай бұрын
Oh sweet jesus please do the Chargers need him
@agonz1628 ай бұрын
You had 2 bad games against improving teams with your qb2. Your coach is the ONLY reason you have a winning season. Temper your tantrums, it’s embarrassing for true Steelers fans
@pdgoblue25188 ай бұрын
I'm a person who has hated the Steelers all my life, and please, please yes fire Tomlin. Steeler fans are so sickeningly spoiled after 20 straight years of HOF QB play you have no clue that Tomlin is the only thing keeping you out of football hell. But please, yes, fire him and get what you deserve. You're 1 more miss at QB and a Cam Heyward retirement away from football hell.
@jesseharrison28738 ай бұрын
@@pdgoblue2518if you want a coach who can’t win playoff games, take Tomlin and enjoy him
@PandasRViolent8 ай бұрын
@@agonz162 Cardinals are 2-2 with their Franchise QB back, They aren't the same team. Murray makes a huge difference. As for the Patriots that's a different story. I'm also convinced Tomlin needs a strong OC, his teams are terrible at pushing the ball and getting it to the necessary people. Give Lincoln Riley a call match made in heaven. Lastly Trubisky isn't cut for the NFL, dude isn't even a suitable backup.
@The_Bad_Guy.8 ай бұрын
You're right Rich. Tomlin is in complete control and has this team heading in the right direction and all is well with the Steelers. The team is just as strong as they ever have been and are trending upwards. Great coaches lose the locker room and have the team a complete mess all the time!
@kbbrown81548 ай бұрын
The standard is the standard is the standard.
@The_Bad_Guy.8 ай бұрын
@@kbbrown8154 hahaha yes it certainly is. And the standard is very clearly 9-8 and no playoff wins.
@mageck18 ай бұрын
@@The_Bad_Guy. I dont see them winning another game this year.
@edschobs52048 ай бұрын
@@mageck1I love the Steelers and I really hope they don’t! I’m tired of hearing the praise from national media about how great Tomlin is when the team hasn’t won a playoff game in 7 years and he’s in control of almost every single detail and decision made for the team!
@johnnypastrana67278 ай бұрын
Are you sure? uh huh...
@keem79108 ай бұрын
I agree! Be careful what we wish for. Fans wanted Ben out & thought it’ll be so easy to replace a HOF Qb.
@michaelmilsom95188 ай бұрын
Is it not possible to accept that even the best coaches have an expiry date with one organization and need to start anew. It isn't a failure really, more of a reality of the role and the dynamics. Andy Reid for example has found renewed success in Kansas City after struggling for a bit in Philadelphia at the tail end of his tenure there.
@edmartin41738 ай бұрын
Philadelphia but yes I agree!
@NedyahFox8 ай бұрын
The difference with tomlin is this has been who he was his entire career he never won a sb with his team
@michaelmilsom95188 ай бұрын
@@edmartin4173 right...sorry....thank you :-)
@sleepinglady27788 ай бұрын
Canada was horrible and never should have been OC this season. The Offensive Line is inconsistent. QBs inconsistent. Receiving core good but immature and i dont think they do the little things to help their team when they dont get the ball. Washington may have converted that third down last night if dj blocked. Keep tomlin bring in a real oc like byron leftwich plus he is steelers family. Im sorry but our defensive backs are inconsistent too. Consider getting a new coach on defense and special teams too. Staffing is an issue when player moral is this bad.
@03Man118 ай бұрын
The difference between Tomlin and Reid is Pat Mahomes lol. For the longest time, Andy was simply considered an offensive guru who couldn’t manage a clock in the 4th quarter. He went to KC and it was a lot of the same until Mahomes came around. For as good as Ben was, he was no Mahomes.
@jaystank37778 ай бұрын
Love you, Rich. Also love Tomlin. But it's beyond time to move on. The comparison is the Reid Eagles. We're in the exact same rut with Mike.
@drewwilson66398 ай бұрын
Decent comparison, but Reids is a much better coach.
@alexspicer60438 ай бұрын
As a Ravens fan who respects the hell out of Tomlin BUT last night was a disgrace and embarrassing. Steelers need to figure stuff out so we can have that rivalry back!
@Jordan-Ramses8 ай бұрын
Was it a disgrace? The Steelers aren't that good of a team. I wasn't surprised that they lost.
@owen7308 ай бұрын
Yet they still beat y'all earlier in the season
@Man_Man4108 ай бұрын
@@owen730Yet y'all have no business winning that game, stop it
@kimblandino8 ай бұрын
Baltimore is 1-7 in their last 8 vs. the Steelers.
@Man_Man4108 ай бұрын
@@kimblandino Want me to pull up the stats of all those games. You be the judge of that then. A lot of those games it was my ravens shooting themselves in the foot. If you going throw up how many times a team beat a certain team, make sure you clowns tell the full story.
@mistersl86478 ай бұрын
When it comes to Mike Tomlin I think we need to separate the man from the Head Coach. By all accounts here locally in the Burgh and nationally from players, former players, and general sports personalities who know him, Mike Tomlin the person is a leader of men and a stand-up guy. Someone you'd want your son or daughter to grow up to be. Former players laud him and players from other teams say they wish they would have played for him. That's the type of person Mike Tomlin is and when I hear people like Rich and the slew of others who talk about Coach Tomlin, what I come away with is that they cannot separate the man from the Coach. As a man, Mike Tomlin has my utmost respect. But the results for Coach Tomlin leave a lot be desired. He had early success. In his first 4 years he took the Steelers to two SuperBowls, winning one and losing one. Since that SB loss in 2010, 13 years ago, the Steelers have won exactly 3 playoff games with 2 of those wins coming in the same post season. If you were an owner and someone gave you an option to hire a coach and they told you over a 13 year window he's only going to get you 3 playoff wins would you sign up for that? Would his regular season success even factor into your decision if you knew you'd only get 3 playoff wins? Think about the offensive talent this team has had specifically with Ben, AB, and Le'Veon Bell and let 3 playoff wins in 13 years sink in. And also throw in the fact that after year 13 you're going to be in a rebuild mode because you went all in on an offensive scheme that was not built for the NFL game and a coordinator who couldn't develop your young QB or your overall offense. Mike Tomlin the man should be applauded, Mike Tomlin the coach needs to be replaced.
@meghanmisaliar8 ай бұрын
Well said.
@tucaz658 ай бұрын
It’s 14 years including this year. Well said
@jjbbenjable8 ай бұрын
Tomlin will have a job immediately once he’s gone…he can make that team average too
@dynomar118 ай бұрын
Jesus dude gives you a super bowl and several winning seasons and you're saying he's mediocre
@shanegiggles21088 ай бұрын
Without Bills guys. Yes. AB forced himself to be as good as he was ben was all talent no x and os once talent was done we were done tj is talent and so is safety I can't spell is name. And holding is allowed and tj gets hurt trying to mussel out of it.
@colmyers8 ай бұрын
Let him sign with the Commanders and go 9-8! Sounds good to me
@Orxbane8 ай бұрын
@@dynomar11 15 years ago, how long are supposed to hold on to that as a reason to keep him now? He was always mediocre, but his ability to motivate exceptional talent was enough to it him seem like he could actually coach. Now he doesn't have much exceptional talent and doesn't seem so good at motivation either.
@tomleubner68808 ай бұрын
20 thumbs up 👍
@ChefRL198 ай бұрын
If you like not having losing seasons Tomlin is the right coach. I want playoffs and championships.
@warrensmitchell8 ай бұрын
Have fun being a one and done team in the playoffs
@bigbuffguy95898 ай бұрын
Exactly. He's the best coach in NFL history for never having a losing season. If you want to win Super Bowls, not so much.
@KevinJL8 ай бұрын
8-8 and 9-8 champion
@johnevans97518 ай бұрын
HOF?
@PeterSedesse8 ай бұрын
Tomlin was a good coach when he had Prime Ben, Dick Lebeau and Cowhers defensive guys...Troy, James Harrison etc. He inherited the best possible situation. 1 year with a playoff win in the past 8 years. Pull up a stat of the teams who have won 1 playoff game in 8 years...and that is the real Tomlin
@benjaminperez73288 ай бұрын
He pulled a Dan Bylsma.
@user-yx9bs8zo5q8 ай бұрын
Worst record of all time against sub 500 teams.
@DM-bu6to8 ай бұрын
In 17 years Mike Tomlin has won a playoff game in ONLY 4 of those seasons. He is the most overrated coach in the history of the game. Enough is enough
@chillsavage8 ай бұрын
also his last 3 wins in the playoffs were against 2 backup QBs and kicking 6 field goals to beat Alex Smith.
@pattrandall89428 ай бұрын
This is what we do…who we are classic Mike Tomlin
@seanwells188 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what he said 😂
@CorePathway8 ай бұрын
He almost sounded like Bill Belichick out there. 😂
@bark-aholic65348 ай бұрын
lose embarrassingly?
@collinloretitsch47318 ай бұрын
I mean if your cool with finishing 1 game above .500, and no playoffs...then ok.....keep tomlin. But this is a...how do i say,...."New Classic".
@KevinJL8 ай бұрын
Platitudes and word salad still wins over the Eisens and Greenbergs
@bceazzy16638 ай бұрын
Sad I know Cam Heyward will never win a ring, and Tj will probably never see one either along with Minkah unless they go some where else…
@marshorne56088 ай бұрын
I heard a stat today that just shocked me in 17 season at Pittsburgh head coach he Mike only won a playoff game in 4 of them shocking to hear that
@denniscarney52498 ай бұрын
C'mon... we've all seen the STATISTICAL FACTS of Tomlins record. How his only championships were on the back of teams Cower left him. We have endured a decade of mediocrity and the distinction of having a winning record despite epicly aenemic offenses year after year.We have watched Tomlin ignore the obvious truth that Roethlisberger's arm was shot. We have been patient despite his failure to plan for life after Ben and while Pickett tries to develop. Is the fact that we're left to watch Tribusky and Rudolph entirely on Tomlin? No more than the offense was entirely Canada's fault. The "player's coach" has lost the locker room. ALL OF THE ABOVE combined with poor coaching decisions game after game -- those are the reasons he should go.
@user-xc5bn7vo8i8 ай бұрын
How many superbowls did Cowher win and how long did it take him to win them again?
@shadowlazers8 ай бұрын
Well Ben's arm was not shot.the o line was worse than now.ben still put up 30 pts a few times..s.d.....vikings..and maybe playoff game vs chiefs I forget. But if u took the time to watch in depth highlights he was throwing 6 yrd passes..cuz that's all the time he had..he still had zip on the ball and threw 65 yrd bombs..you could say ..nuh uh..or go watch detailed analysis of his last season
@edtech0student8 ай бұрын
Is Tomlin in charge of personnel? If not, I hope you blame the GM for not trying to find a replacement for Ben until the last minute.
@z0mb1e5648 ай бұрын
One of the challenges great coaches face is that they elavate players, then those players get paid more than their talent is worth because the coach can make the most of it. That's why I think when you see a high level coach move on, their old teams collapse quickly and go into a severe rebuild. Meanwhile, that coach moves on to a new team and starts to excel again. It can be true that the Steelers would end up a better team after a couple years cleaning house if they get rid of Tomlin and that Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the sport.
@Orxbane8 ай бұрын
If he moves on to another team that isn't basically already a championship team, he will fail miserably. I think Tomlin is just smart enough to realize if he loses his "lifetime" coaching gig, that he needs to move into broadcasting or something else besides another coaching gig and get unmasked as the fraud that he is. His narcissism won't allow that.
@chrismacola99458 ай бұрын
Part of being a good coach is that you keep the locker room stable. Tomlin lost the locker room a long time ago and has allowed a lot of things to go on that good coaches don't. He inherited a good team from Bill, he's had great players and has yet to capitalize. He had arguably one of the best NFL receivers in the last two decades, one of the better running backs, and still two time Super Bowl champion quarterback, and still couldn't do it. He's not that good.
@adial0018 ай бұрын
As a forever Steelers fan......Sometimes it's just time to go. It's TIME for a change in Pittsburgh!
@meghanmisaliar8 ай бұрын
Agree. You can't fix something that no longer works.
@TheMrob258 ай бұрын
Steelers fans don't actually want to deal with the consequences of what firing Mike Tomlin would mean. If he goes and his replacement is the wrong guy, this team is winning 6 games a year for a long time. Yinzers can barley stomach winning seasons, imagine going under .500. Steelers fans say they would rather be bad for a better pick, I guarantee you they wouldn't survive actually having to go through it.
@EJ231238 ай бұрын
Tomlin can most definitely remain an outstanding coach and still just need a new look - they’re not mutually exclusive. His act has gotten stale, they’ve missed big time on filling the holes over the years, and the entire team (Besides guys like TJ, Minkah, and Warren) is failing to buy in. I think it’d benefit both parties to amicably part ways.
@josejh-eb8st8 ай бұрын
What expert analysis do you base this on?🤔
@russellstewart54148 ай бұрын
Who’s on your short list to replace him? Name 3 people capable of coaching this team. Picket is useless, Mitch needs to retire and Mason can warm a bench somewhere else. And our defense players should be freed from their contracts so they can play for a team that has the ability to get into the SB while they’re still able. But who’s on the list to replace Tomlin?
@deaj84508 ай бұрын
@josejh-eb8st Minkah quite literally said in a recent interview that he believes the problem is that many players on the team have not bought in. And also that they show up "expecting to be great just cause they're wearing the black and gold, instead of working for it." That's culture. That's leadership. That is just as much if not more of an indictment on coaching as it is on those players. We stuck around with a good culture for a long time cause the old veterans instilled it, but it hid the fact that it was a player instilled and not coach instilled winning culture.
@truedarius8 ай бұрын
this iteration of the Steelers is taking years off of my life expectancy....
@GSnizzle8 ай бұрын
Bro this is too accurate 😂
@masterofallgoons8 ай бұрын
It's hard to for Steelers fans to be pleased, I know... but it's a minor miracle that he has squeezed 7 wins out of this team at this point.
@chuckyjamesamartin19688 ай бұрын
It wasn't his doing, it was fluke bs like 2 defensive TDs vs Cleveland, 8 drops by Ravens receivers in Week 5, and getting outgained in each of the first 10 games in now in 11 of the 13.
@mikemiller48178 ай бұрын
TJ Watt is 29 and has never won a playoff game? Things have gotten stale.
@mytwosense91358 ай бұрын
I feel the same way about Harbaugh as some Steelers fans feel about Tomlin. They're both good men, culture changing coaches that bring class and steadiness to a franchise. They're both also stale, riding on long ago SBs and success getting carried by talent and ownership that don't sack coaches.
@Intellectmatters23048 ай бұрын
Ravens Steelers might die if that happens, remember those games grew both of our lives 🤣💯
@mobrown11988 ай бұрын
There’s a difference. The Ravens have a better front office. Harbaugh was a lame duck prior to the team drafting Lamar. Lamar saved his job. To Harbaughs credit he’s adjusted well. If not for back to back seasons of Lamar getting injured, The Ravens and Harbaugh would have at least 2 more winning seasons. He parted ways with Wink and Roman and hired replacements, McDonald and Monken. I don’t want to hear the crap about sticking with Roman too long… again if not for the back to back seasons with injuries, (can’t attribute that to Harbaugh) You couldn’t argue with Roman’s approach because they were getting results. Yes Lamar out grew the system, but was it Harbaughs fault for the poor WR rooms until this season? That would go on EDC….as “good men” strong leaders have the ability to adapt, while also maintaining a brand, a culture. Many Ravens fans feel the same way… and I don’t get it. The grass is always greener… Harbaugh fired Cam Cameron in that Super Bowl year, he was disappointed with Winks defense, and Lamar’s lack of growth and let both his coordinators walk in successive seasons. I can understand the criticism of Harbaugh for his in game gaffes. But he’s so much more. Regardless of subjective opinions about Harbaugh his successes far exceed his gaffes. I will say this, if the Ravens don’t compete for Super Bowls through Lamar’s new contract, I’m sure he’ll retire or his contract won’t be renewed. Like a said in the beginning, He was a lame duck coach, in 2018. It was his end. Lamar saved him, he embraced it, and “earned” his new lease. This current tenure of Harbaugh isn’t based on that Super Bowl. It is due to him “trusting” Lamar Jackson. Let’s see how it turns out these next few seasons before comparing Harbaugh and the Ravens organization to the Steelers. Unfortunately for Steelers fans, their organization has yet to move into the modern era of football. The need an organizational reboot. The Ravens have rebounded after missing the playoffs 3 of 5 years and had Harbaugh on his way out. They have raised the standard. Ravens organization > Steelers organization (Not historically, but currently) they have been mid for almost a decade now.
@askmiller8 ай бұрын
At least with Harbaugh you can point to concrete examples of bad in game decisions that hurt the team. If you were to measure the pwin impact of the outcomes of the in game decisions Harbaugh makes, it's pretty bad. Can we say the same with Tomlin? Tomlin led teams find a way to win when they shouldn't, Harbaugh led teams find a way to lose when they shouldn't.
@kyledabearsfan8 ай бұрын
Man, even as a Bears fan. Seeing Tomlin go would change how I feel about that rivalry game. Watching the Steelers play without Tomlin at the helm would just feel weird. Ill still watch with excitement though, 2 great franchises. I wish Tomlin the best though, hes had an amazing career and given fans a lot of great teams to cheer for (sometimes even when on paper they didnt have a shot). Maybe we need him in Chicago 😂
@cozm1q148 ай бұрын
If they get fired they both get signed within 30 minutes and Winn a Super Bowl with a good team in their first 3 years there
@inverter84168 ай бұрын
As a bengals fan its hard to argue against the sucess mike has had but something is broken there. I think the GM holds alot of the blame
@kevindietterich14488 ай бұрын
The super bowl victory was not Tomlins team, it was Cowers team. It shows now without Rothliberger. So you have to ask, was it Tomlins team or Rothliberger team?
@vladchenkov92158 ай бұрын
They have had multiple champion caliber teams who could not even win a playoff game..
@3321far8 ай бұрын
Chuck Noll without Terry Bradshaw, 72-88. Tomlin without Big Ben, 16-14.
@pjkammer68018 ай бұрын
Cowher without a franchise QB: best record in the NFL over his tenure.
@shanegiggles21088 ай бұрын
16-14 so... 9-7 like every year. Standard is afc championship contender. Afc championship means top 4 team. Has an actual shot at a superbowl. Tomlin does not
@jimmorrison92878 ай бұрын
That's not a fair comparison. When Chuck Knoll took over the steelers, they were littlery the wosrt organization in football. They had the wosre record for timespan from when they started to when he took over. It took him time to build the team into a powerhouse, so the first few years, their record were terrible, and Bradshaw didn't play in all of those games. Mike Tomlin took over a well-oiled machine when he became coach. Also, Chuck Knoll won 4 Super Bowls and went to 7 Conference championships. They aren't even close at what they have accomplished in the postseason.
@chuckyjamesamartin19688 ай бұрын
Great, and Noll won 4 superbowls in 12 full years with Bradshaw, and Coach Fraud won 1 super bowl in 14 full seasons with Ben
@spsawyer228 ай бұрын
@@pjkammer6801cowher went 8-8 with Ben his last year. The Cowher rose tinted glasses are silly
@03Man118 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if Tomlin went to the Chargers and resurrected that team. I’d even be happy for him. But it’s not happening in Pittsburgh. We need change.
@chettiboi41298 ай бұрын
Rich I absolutley agree....as a lifelong steelers fan and living in pittsburgh steeler fans are so ungreatful. Did the same thing with chuck and bill...we only appreciated them after they left. Cant stand it
@seandowney55498 ай бұрын
You really have to ask yourself after going 7-2 in latter half of last season and how we started the season. What in the holy hell is going on in your locker room?
@waynow58 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen Tomlin act this defeated ever. Or that could just be me i suppose.
@meghanmisaliar8 ай бұрын
I think he's depressed.
@joeyperrone31688 ай бұрын
I was never a huge Mike Tomlin fan but I respect his win percentage and definitely respect what he did in 2019 when Ben went down for the season. But these issues are nothing new; losses to bad teams, looking completely unprepared, immature players taking over the locket room, bad clock management. I just think that now he doesnt a HOF QB to take the pressure off of him, now he's being looked at at the problem.
@Kevin_7478 ай бұрын
Tomlin is fireproof. Get used to mediocrity if you're a Steeler fan.
@t.k.13198 ай бұрын
They are never picking early enough to get a good QB or fix the OL. That’s on the GM. Blaming Tomlin for Kenny Picket being injured is wild.
@Vinteroffer8 ай бұрын
How it started: First team ever to have winning record getting outgained in first 10 games. How it's going: First team with a winning record ever to lose back to back games to teams 8 games below .500. He's accomplished a lot in his career. He's 100% going into the hall when he's eligible. It's time to move on though. If the Eagles can move on from Andy Reid and Doug Peterson the Steelers can move on from Tomlin.
@Hrithmus8 ай бұрын
Like Tomlin but with everything even normal blue collar jobs sometimes it’s time to move on or be forced to move on. Right now it’s time. You had a hell of a run, broken records, will be loved in Pittsburgh forever. But it’s time. It’s about winning and right now it’s the worst we have ever been.
@user-xu9ws6by2f8 ай бұрын
I have been a Steelers fan since 1972. Share the same last name with Mean Joe. Let's take all of this into context. Mike Tomlin coached the team to a Super Bowl win, coached an obviously insane Antonio Browm to a potential HOF career, is beloved by everyone who has ever played for him and has NEVER had a losing season. Ask Bears, Lions, Chargers, Raiders, Commanders, Jets, Browns and Falcons fans if they'd love a coach with no losing seasons over the past 16 years ..
@willb30188 ай бұрын
Put it another way......how would you like to be a mediocre team for infinity? Tomlin won a Super Bowl in his second year with a team and coaching staff largely built by Bill Cower. Down to mediocrity ever since.
@talesfromthetrip8 ай бұрын
Mike Tomlin has had so many Super Bowl rosters yet only has one SB where you had one of the best QBs ever to throw a pass that is a top 3 catch in SB history.
@Fernando_6168 ай бұрын
Wow... This conversation is actually happening. I've been telling my Steelers fan buddy and youtube commment threads this for the last couple years 😂
@patricklarson84188 ай бұрын
Time catches everyone Rich Eisen. Mike Tomlin is outdated and tone def to the new NFL.
@Big-Bone8 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion, but Tomlin’s biggest mistake was his choice in offensive coordinator, and in reality Matt Canada and Teryl Austin were some of his first actual opportunities to choose his own coordinators. He made a mistake with Canada, but that’s still a mistake that the former GM and Owner share blame in as well. Things outside of a head coaches ability to prevent/change in the middle of a season? - offensive scheme - execution (you can motivate, but a coach isn’t on the field) - injuries to key personnel (QB, S, WR1, TE1, EDGE, all three of your starting Middle LBs) - injuries to depth personnel (remember Cory Trice and McFarland in the pre-season?) - young QB speed of developing consistency and decision making - accurate and equal officiating - strength of defensive schedule I understand that Tomlin ultimately is accountable for a lack of playoff success in recent years in a results oriented business. However, context matters and choosing to ignore it to satisfy your need to take your anger out on someone is immature. I hate watching the team lose like this as much as anyone, but I go live my life after the game is over and come back to cheer our team on the following week.
@Frequency16828 ай бұрын
It's the lack of competitive effort that's been evident for quite a while. Coaching changes happen. The longer Tomlin lingers in Pittsburgh, the more that H.O.F. coaching career will reveal the mediocrity it's demonstrating.
@jamesgoss18608 ай бұрын
"Full Elon Musk on me" Well done, Rich 🤣
@roundsaturn318 ай бұрын
Love you Rich, love Tomlin and love Steeler Nation. Will always be a fan as long as a Rooney is in charge. That being said, this time period that we are now in reminds me an awful lot of the feeling I had when Chuck Noll was about to step down...things were looking fine for a team that just lost a HOF QB a few minutes ago, but theese last two games are more than a little hard to take. One thing is for sure, NE owns us or at least Belichick does....
@manyourground8 ай бұрын
Rich, with all due respect, how long are you going to continue to endorse Mike Tomlin for underachieving for the last 10 plus years? Honestly, why?
@jnyfumare8 ай бұрын
I've been a Steeler fan since 1972 and I would love to see Tomlin resign after this season.
@Brutuscomedy8 ай бұрын
Oh so the point of football is to avoid a "losing season." 👌
@dodger12148 ай бұрын
I've been saying this for almost a decade, and people try to tell me I know nothing about football. Since losing to the Packers in the Super Bowl, they've won a grand total of 3 playoff games. In that span, they've lost to Tebow, Bortles, and Baker. All this while constantly being unprepared, playing down to their opponent, and losing to inferior teams. I get the Rooneys are loyal owners. But it's time.
@SamnissArandeen8 ай бұрын
And those wins were against a Dolphins team with a backup QB, a Bengals team with a headhunting Burfict at the worst possible time, and an Alex Smith led Chiefs squad that never gave up a TD and still rolled over. How's it feel that your last playoff win to date was the motivator for the team you beat to draft Patrick Mahomes and become the new dynasty apparent?
@FrankHerrera-qr1mh8 ай бұрын
Ditto
@dodger12148 ай бұрын
@@SamnissArandeenOh man. Almost forgot about that Burfict hit.
@brucep97298 ай бұрын
2 of those wins in 1 season thanks to Chris Boswell!
@davidjon138 ай бұрын
FINALLY! Someone who gets it. I’ve been saying get rid of Tomlin the past 10 years. Also said Green Bay needed to fire McCarthy. Packers finally acted, but Steelers ownership LOVE those 9-7s and 8-8s. 🤢🤢🤮 Can you imagine Rodgers only getting to ONE SB, and the triplet killer Bs of Ben, Bell & Brown NO SBs?? Stellar coaching there for sure 🤮 ( 2009 & 2011 SBs were b4 the killer Bs were all together ) And the biggest joke is Tomlin & McCarthy MET IN SB in 2011!! 😂😂😂 Maybe Dallas v Pittsburgh again this year in SB so we can have another Tomlin v McCarthy?? 😅😅😅
@davemccoy73408 ай бұрын
Rich, the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game since 2016. You can believe Mike T is a great coach, which I do, and also believe it’s time for a change.
@shawnevans14448 ай бұрын
The younger players and new generation don't respond or understand what it means to be a Steeler! Need new coach and retool the entire coaching staff.
@steelersluv8 ай бұрын
Love your show Rich. Tomlin still needs to go.
@user-wj8ui1lw8b8 ай бұрын
I'm a Patriots fan and it's been wonderful, over the years, having a potential conference rival with a coach who brings no strategy to the table.
@DRAMz-re7oo8 ай бұрын
As a Steelers fan I didn’t care you guys were 2-10 I knew we were gonna lose. Mike tomlin can’t scheme up anything which is why Bill owns him.
@edschobs52048 ай бұрын
@@DRAMz-re7ooDemeco Ryan’s out coached him with Nico Collins, Tank Dell, and a rookie QB in his 3rd game. Almost a team of absolute nobodies….and they worked us!
@2kolbe0108 ай бұрын
@@edschobs5204 i tried telling people this. When it comes to game planning tomlin and co are not the top tier in that department. There’s no way.
@edschobs52048 ай бұрын
@@2kolbe010 it’s wild how many teams on the bottom 5 of the league consistently give Tomlin led Steeler teams trouble. His record against bottom feeder teams(like bottom 5) couldn’t be good. It’s gotta be sub .500 or very close to it. I just saw a stat, in the last 7 games when the Steelers were favored by 5.5 points or more, they are 1-5-1….thats atrocious!
@shadowlazers8 ай бұрын
That's so good to hear..that no matter talented stillers were Darth bill..just knows every thing pgh gonna do..I used to despise bill..then I learned to live his no nonsense..and just love if football knowlege..hes also the funniest coach ever..such dry sarcasm..Bill's Micd up are the best
@TheBigjohn5278 ай бұрын
Here's what Owner Art Rooney II said in Jan 2023 per Steeler Depot : “I think the number one thing I look at in terms of the job a coach does is does the team get better over the course of the season. And we clearly did that,” Rooney said. “I don’t really evaluate Mike on anything other than I’m glad he’s our coach. Hopefully, he’ll be our coach into the future. "I think he gives us a chance to win year in and year out. Put us in a position that we have a chance to compete for a championship.” So AR II I hope you're of a different mindset after the last 5 days. And about Tomlin's contract extension?
@saintrocketIX8 ай бұрын
The standard is the standard, and the standard is mediocrity.
@TheIzzo10008 ай бұрын
LMFAOOOOO…the fact that Steelers fans think another coach could do anything with the product their GM has gave Tomlin to work with is hilarious. Once Tomlin is gone you’ll finally see why everyone else holds the man in the highest regard. I think it’s finally time for the Steelers and their fans to see how bad most of the teams have it in the league
@mikko38 ай бұрын
Tomlin is average, you dont win with average. He couldnt replicate what Cowher did. He was given years but failed constantly, Steelers had great QB and defense but couldnt do it for years
@coreykopp33158 ай бұрын
Rich love your show, love your announcing games. Always been a fan, I agree with your views on Tomlin. I also a steelers fan agree not happy with results of the past 2 games but, with a sound mind am not jumping every week of a high and low due to results. Do I dislike our offense play right now sure. I believe our defense is top tier but also tiring due to playing 3.5 quarters of football week in and week out. I appreciate your views and opinions on this team! Keep being real!
@Orxbane8 ай бұрын
Our defense is not top tier. Take out Watt and our defense is average at best. Watt makes up for our coaching and scheme failure's and bails us out, just like Ben bailed us out in the fourth quarter for all those years. Exceptional talent has bailed out this mediocre coaching staff for well over a decade now, but every season of this bad coaching has eroded that foundation and now the house is crumbling. Tomlin has to go, and the sooner the better.
@alestev248 ай бұрын
One has to question how much the "fans" who put the blame on Tomlin understand about football. They obviously do not realize how devastating it is to lose one mike linebacker after another during a season, especially for a team, which has to rely on its defense. The Steelers have to hire inside linebackers out of retirement, and Tomlin doesn't look for excuses. So these "fans" don't get what a catastrophe the injury situation on defense has been this year.
@2kolbe0108 ай бұрын
We understand completely. Its just the lack of planning with this franchise. The steelers are just so behind in everything.
@alestev248 ай бұрын
@@2kolbe010 Well that's true for the offense. I follow the 49ers just as much as the Steelers, and when I compare the offensive plays, I want to cry everytime I see the Steelers. I believe that with Pittsburgh's personal, an OC with half the fantasy of Shanahan could make Pickett look like a top 15 NFL QB and Pickens an OPOY candidate. How one can draft Washington and not make him a target on at least half the plays in the red zone, is beyond me. And that's just one example. But I really don't believe that Tomlin forbids his offensive coaching staff to be creative. I he does, then he really needs to go.
@Hawkman0078 ай бұрын
Firing a head coach that has literally never had a losing record for your franchise is asinine. You don't know what you've got until it's gone. Ask Chargers fans after they fired Marty Schottenheimer.
@matriculatethefootball8 ай бұрын
shhh, let them do it. they don't realize how bad things can be with a horrible coach. let them hire frank reich
@thisdeep63728 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that firing Tomlin is a bad move because someone will scoop him instantly. Let them! Eagles let go of Andy Reid and Doug Peaderson after they won superbowl and still all three parties flourished afterwards. We gotta stop living in the past and putting Tomlin on pedestal just because he won us one Lombardi and doesn’t have losing season. Time for a clean house
@cmdrbillpaxton43028 ай бұрын
Tomlin won one Super Bowl basically with Bill Cowher's team. Same thing happened in Tampa when Dungy left and Gruden came in.
@bienvenidoperez34278 ай бұрын
Bill Cowher had a miserable last season for many reasons. That team did not win a championship. Mike Tomlin took over. That first year was not the super bowl. He then won in his second year. It was not bills team. It was tomlins. Stop with this narrative.
@mikko38 ай бұрын
@@bienvenidoperez3427False, team was largely same when Tomlin took over. Soon as regime from Bills era retired, Tomlin couldnt do anything
@kevinschindele48298 ай бұрын
Ravens fan and we said the same thing about harbaugh before we drafted lamar. If the steelers had a qb they would be the biggest headache in the north
@charlesconner90448 ай бұрын
Fellow Ravens fan here, sometimes Harbaugh makes decisions that yearn for us to see him fired. Love the guy but damn his decision making has killed us in many games
@FrankHerrera-qr1mh8 ай бұрын
Tomlin had Ben, and that "non-losing season" stuff belong more to Ben than this clown.
@kevinschindele48298 ай бұрын
@@charlesconner9044 yup you're right. I think his seat was getting a littlw warm around 2015-2018. Playing lamar probably gave him life again.
@charlesconner90448 ай бұрын
@@kevinschindele4829 Lamar singlehandedly saved that guy's job
@ambrose2748 ай бұрын
I've been a lifelong Steeler fan....but I can't do this anymore. This is the worst coached team I've ever seen. It's time to move on. The front office sucks too.
@bioLarzen8 ай бұрын
Steelers fans have very vivid memories about club legends lingering on for too long... a.k.a. #7...
@jeffbecraft71748 ай бұрын
Tomlin Stinks. For 17yrs
@henrim93488 ай бұрын
Steelers are a joke
@joshwoolaghan60748 ай бұрын
Steeler fans in Pittsburgh want Tomlin out!
@thecarguy43048 ай бұрын
He is a horrible coach. If he coached anywhere but Pittsburgh and wasn't a minority he would have been fired 5 years ago.
@Fralsii8 ай бұрын
Dan Campbell would be a perfect fit for the Steelers culture, but he's already a perfect fit for Detroit or else I would have loved to have him as the HC
@Swedishchef708 ай бұрын
Bill Cowher 2.0
@BonifiedButter8 ай бұрын
Rich all you said in this take was so so so true I've been a steelers fan for 46 years and I'm looking at the hole picture yes Tomlin is some of the blame but ppl think that the grass is greener on the other side be carefulwhat you wish for.
@joshwoolaghan60748 ай бұрын
Some of those guys are Pittsburgh sports talk radio personalities lol. And they are right
@garyt68318 ай бұрын
Been a ravens fan for many years ,Tomlin has done the best that can be done with limited talent, he's not the GM..he's an hall of fame coach!!
@JasonQuinten8 ай бұрын
Mike Tomlin is the most overrated coach in all sports..He has a playoff win in only 4 out of the 18 seasons in Pittsburgh. ZERO in the last 6 and only 3 in the last 13 seasons..There is absolutely nothing great about his coaching..Mediocre at best and that's giving him credit..He was gifted a talented roster with probowl and hall of fame players from the start.
@chillsavage8 ай бұрын
Steelers win despite him, not because of him.
@real-ishstraighttruthnocha16878 ай бұрын
I've become a Steeler fan over the last 5 years. I was formally a Bear fan. It was trash coaches and trash QBs for decades. Tomlin is better than any coach the Bears have had since Halas. With that said, Tomlin shouldn't be given an endless rope of patience. I think he should get this year and next year to right the ship. His contract ends next year so he should get that much. If he cannot solve the OC problem, he needs to be let go. I also think Steeler fans need to be careful. Every coach won't be Tomlin and Belichick or Reid. You can find the Steelers hiring terrible coaches and QBs quickly if they aren't careful. The Steelers have been super fortunate, but don't think Tomlin is the worst. The Jets coaches or the Bears coaches are far worse.
@user-xc5bn7vo8i8 ай бұрын
This forreal. As a stillers fan in an area that is almost all raiders fans, we cannot even fathom how spoiled we are
@crazypolock428 ай бұрын
Rich eisen obviously doesn’t know football. If he thinks Mike Tomlin is HOF coach He only won on Cowher teams and now losing without ben
@bioLarzen8 ай бұрын
- The steelers haven't won a playoff game in 7 years. - As per Tomlin, "the standard is the standard". Do you think no playoff win for 7 years is the standard for the steelers, Rich? And if not - don't you think Tomlin should be measured against "the standard" he himself set up? ... and this coming from a Ravens fan.