No Vocals, No Horns, No Hand Percussion, No Guitar Solo, No Synthesizers. Just the basics.
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@scottmoyer13575 жыл бұрын
I delivered the drums to Gadd and Steely Dan for this session produced at the Producer's Workshop in Hollywood in 1977. It was a Red Sparkle Ludwig set with 2 toms and a floor tom and all clear skin black dot heads which did not get retuned. He used his own cymbals....a 21" Rock Ride and 16 and 17" crashes both with cracks in them for quick decay. I believe it was a Ludwig Super Sensitive 5 1/2 inch snare with tape on it.He used a Ludwig bass drum pedal...the old stand by from back in the day....a 15 dollar pedal.
@nickmessick42925 жыл бұрын
Fantastic info for Danheads like me. You are a piece of history! Thanks for sharing brother.
@davidcomidi55165 жыл бұрын
hi please let me understand is this the actual session with steve and the guys ??
@nickmessick42925 жыл бұрын
@@davidcomidi5516 Yes, actual session with the original cast! This is just one take from the session, however. The final master contains a mesh between a few takes, and likely a lot of punch-ins. Dan didn't mess around with their drum tracks
@davidcomidi55165 жыл бұрын
@@nickmessick4292 that is incredible, I'm surprised that they released such parts of the originl studio session like that .
@nickmessick42925 жыл бұрын
@@davidcomidi5516 My guess is F&B never intended for them to be released. This tape was likely salvaged from Producer's Workshop where they tracked this. An assistant engineer could have easily bounced it down and walked out with it.
@80three572 жыл бұрын
Everyone is killing it here but Larry Carlton is unbelievable, so clever
@salchaos6 жыл бұрын
I must have listened to this song tens of thousands of times. When it came out in 1987 I drove my then girlfriend out of her mind. We were in a band together and I played it non-stop. Just mesmerizing.
@natemorse9376 жыл бұрын
1977 bud!
@petergrewe69233 жыл бұрын
1977
@kz1000ps2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the 1987 version with Yamaha DX7, LinnDrum and Fairlight all over the place. Maybe some Roland D-50 on there as well! LOL
@karlplaysdrums3 жыл бұрын
Far as I know, SD never used a click. They sure didn't in this. Gadd was pushing and pulling all over the place, and it sounds great. Brings it to life.
@kz1000ps2 жыл бұрын
Yup, the beginning of this sits around 116-118 bpm, but by the final drum solo going into the outro the tempo is 125 or faster. Imagine if it were done to a click, or run through Wendel...... ruh roh!
@InflatablePlane6 жыл бұрын
Now find a version like this of Deacon Blues and Peg and I’ll die happy. EDIT: Also want to point out that those drums in this song are the most beautiful sounding drums I’ve ever heard in recorded music. The perfect tuning of the toms make me want to cry.
@davidwatkins2045 жыл бұрын
Well, why don't you, cry, it's only tuning, it's the composition that really counts. Crybaby.
@kai3265 жыл бұрын
@@davidwatkins204 okay asshole, calm down
@michaelcaplin89694 жыл бұрын
The fun thing about this is that none of the drums were even tuned for this session. They just set up the old red sparkle Ludwig in the studio straight from the drum rental storage. Of course, it was a rental set, so it would have been tuned periodically, but Steve nor Donald or Walter even touched the drums before sitting down to play.
@mykalimba3 жыл бұрын
@@davidwatkins204 Well, why, don't, you, put unnecessary, commas, everywhere, in your, sentence. Your, lack of, a high, school diploma, is, showing.
@jonlemo6 жыл бұрын
Gotta remember there were literally THOUSANDS OF EDITS on the SD finished Albums. Very cool to hear it as it was developing! Such a great melody line! Almost like a blend of world sounds! Best writers in our lifetime!
@JonnyLipshamStudios5 жыл бұрын
There were actually very few edits on the Aja album, as Dean Parks explains in the Classic Albums episode that features Aja. The reason why Walter and Donald hired the best of the best of session musicians is because they could cut the highest of quality tracks in very few takes.They would rehearse for 3 hours before lunch and then cut the basic tracks for 4 or 5 songs in the afternoon and evening. Tape wears out with each pass through the play and record heads, and with each splice. To get a high quality master tape, the recordings had to be NAILED. no one ever thought "we'll just fix that in the mix", because you couldn't!! Mixing back then was more about level balancing, with the sound sculpted on the way in.
@mykalimba3 жыл бұрын
Source for "...there were literally THOUSANDS OF EDITS...", please.
@Sunkenballs1211 ай бұрын
Hoss that just isn't accurate. There are not thousands of edits on Aja. You may be confusing this with two against nature, where Roger Nichols had to phone in to AVID (protools) because they had reached a previously unknown edit limit. The final cut of Aja is a combination of 2 takes edit together.
@rajneeshorrog7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Walter!
@greggtrew31456 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Lang makes a point about the drums at 3:21 and 4:26, but that was the only noticeable difference I could hear. So I pulled down an mp3 of this track with a converter and threw it into a DAW with the album version, lined up the start points and stretched the basic track to match up a clear synch point at the end (the start of the last drum solo). I panned one hard right and the other hard left. Everything synched perfectly until the beginning of the instrumental part, and then the basic track started creeping ahead. So I figured that was pretty good evidence of this being an unused take. But if you synch and adjust the instrumental section to maintain tempo, they line up perfectly -- as if they are the same take. Please listen for yourself at clyp.it/oy5ovdxg# They are identical, once the tempo is adjusted, down to the individual hits of the cymbal crescendo leading into the guitar solo. I slowed the playback speed to .25 and heard no variation. So what's up with those snare hits? Why does the tempo change without pitch variation? Does Steve Gadd just play everything exactly the same way on every take -- as if he's conceived every stroke of a massive drum concerto? I just started mucking around to solve a fun little mystery and now I have a box full of new mysteries.
@JonnyLipshamStudios6 жыл бұрын
Steve did the Drum track in 2 takes. I read that the 1st drum duet with Wayne Shorter was from take 1, and the 2nd from take 2, and the ending drum solo was from take 1. And Steve was reading a chart written by Larry Carlton.
@cgmahony6 жыл бұрын
@@JonnyLipshamStudios wow larry carlton would write a chart fro Gadd. Is a chart for a drummer the same as ac hord chart? excuse my ignorance What consumate pros?
@officialrohinmusic6 жыл бұрын
How interesting. There are two possibilities to this: 1) They only re-recorded the parts at 3:21 and 4:26 because they felt the parts that Steve Gadd played there weren't right, while leaving the rest as is. Steely Dan were perfectionists, and this is one of many retakes that they have their players do, so this is highly plausible. That would explain how everything lines up so well. These guitar and piano tracks must be the ones on the final mix on the released record. 2) God actually exists and he has materialised himself into Steve Gadd, which allows him to play anything precisely the same as before, with exactly the same hand and foot motions and everything.
@Howard_Wright6 жыл бұрын
They recorded two takes. This track is what's used on about 95% of the album version, but they spliced in a few short sections from take 2 - most obvious changes are the double-time drums.
@cgmahony5 жыл бұрын
@@musopaul5407 Thanks very much Paul. I'm a guitarist and amateur arranger. Funny, I listen to all kinds of music but by coincidence tonight I was going through my old Cherry Lane Donald fagen The Nightfly music publication tonight; a book I haven't looked at for years. After all these years I still marvel at those chord harmonies. Thanks for answering my question.
@colinclifford37275 жыл бұрын
These are musical masterpieces, they don’t even need vocals. For a while the basic track to Deacon Blues was posted on here (since taken down), by far my favorite.
When they do it live it makes me so happy. Perfectionists to the last.
@windlebee94404 жыл бұрын
Always wondered why they put that in there.
@bobmiller284310 ай бұрын
Donald solos.
@EnlightenedRogue244 жыл бұрын
Certified Dan junkie here. Thank you for this upload! Finally, a genuine Steely Dan backtrack. Getting my sax out to sit in with my musical idols! Saw your video playlist with other rare Dan gems, subbed! ☝️🥴🎷🔊🎶🎵😎👍
@80three574 жыл бұрын
The rhythm guitar and piano are almost one entity, absolutely amazing
@SuperTwangster7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Steve Gadd, mercy! sooo explosive, yet with dynamics galore!
@justinquaylepate13585 жыл бұрын
Aja is my favorite song in all the world. And now we an "Elevator music " version. Far out
@juliocesarcordeiro41794 жыл бұрын
This might sound strange...came across the album not so long ago...I always listen to this tune, every single day...I do have many Spotify playlists, but I cannot change my Steely Dan/Donald Fagen one...
@bwolohan186 жыл бұрын
Steve Gadd was so perfect for this song.
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
@@musopaul5407 . 😅Yeah and unusual that they only used him for one song in their whole catalogue. Probably because he was always booked out and in such high demand I would assume.
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
@@musopaul5407 . Oh I didn't know that. I'll have a listen. Gacho is their only album I never really listened to. (Just the hits B, sisters, hey 19)because they we're always included in greatest hits compilations y'know. I'm sure I'll recognise him when I have a listen. Cheers man. 👍
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
@@musopaul5407 . Cheers Man. Gonna give them a listen 👍
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
@@musopaul5407 . Thanks for that. Gaucho is the only one I never actually had. I only new the couple that were on greatest hits. I'll get into the album as I've always found a Steely Dan album that I didn't hear before and was hooked immediately. It's been years since that happened me but I'm sure it will with Gaucho! 👍
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
@@musopaul5407 . Will do man. Thanks for the suggestion. Most Dan stuff was immediate on me an not growers and I'd assume the same with yourself. As you said "quantised and sampled" and the first thing I thought of was that sample put over Rick Morotto's drum track in "Hey Nineteen". I suppose they were just flowing with the times but what really stood out in a more negative way is that the snare keeps playing on the 3 even when Rick plays the fill at the end of the bar. Very unusual for those guys but it was the early eighties (The decade of the overpowering, super wet, and load snare 😁) It sounds exactly what's it is. A sample layered on top of a human drum track. In saying that. I still love the song. Cheers. Keep well. Things have loosened up a bit here in Ireland but still distancing and all that's become the norm. 👍 PS so glad they didn't do it to Purdies shuffle in B'Sis. What a historic travesty that would be in music!
@backjack47893 жыл бұрын
CLEAN AND SUPERB!
@elliottpower29317 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought I heard it all... not quite yet. Thanks!
@richeyrose1217 жыл бұрын
which parallel universe did you get this from?
@Aerospacer775 жыл бұрын
Perfect comment Lol
@tiluriso4 жыл бұрын
Either from the original masters or a K7 copy of the actual rhythm tracks. This is probably what was given to say, Denny Dias to take home so that he could work on solo ideas.
It should have been nominated for a Grammy award for rock instrumental in 1977. I like this track.
@TyStephens5 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous. It almost needs nothing else!
@michealodwyer73064 жыл бұрын
In one of Rick Beato's videos (titled "The Drum Solo that Changed Popular Music") he mentioned that the first session had Jim Keltner on drums, but Steve Gadd was brought in on the second day, while the others knew the track inside out.. Allegedly, Fagan asked for a second take because of the stick click, thinking it was a mistake, but Gadd played it again anyways. Larry Carlton's brother Steve said it was cut live in about twenty minutes.
@philippegontier55107 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing ! Steely Dan will be always my number one in music ...
@lisajomcgee58517 жыл бұрын
Thank you Warren for sharing. ♡♡♡
@michaelspain65945 жыл бұрын
This is a masterpiece, thanks for uploading this great piece of music.
@sheen4dean715 жыл бұрын
Wondrous bliss
@glennmckenzie67997 жыл бұрын
What a track
@brianlee54556 жыл бұрын
Chic Corea's Nite Sprite! Now I need to go listen to Gadd on that one too!
@mattfoley60826 жыл бұрын
You just made my day.
@tiluriso4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@SCUMCRODE6 жыл бұрын
Philly area has a tribute band called Countdown To Ecstasy, their version of this last month was easily the best cover I’ve ever seen. The cajones it takes to even attempt this song, much less nail it. Probably on my top 10 list of songs - all time by any band
@ncbeach227 жыл бұрын
Damn, this is incredible.
@shawntoh6 жыл бұрын
6:57 - the genius of Steve Gadd!
@lesconnus10 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@francoisbodin40862 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@tonyroo113 жыл бұрын
fuck man, listening to this gives me chills.....
@robotron173 жыл бұрын
4:58 is a rim hit, not a stick click. Pretty clear in this version.
@Saltspicious6 жыл бұрын
There is a full Aja Outtake bootleg CD out there, but the guy who has it refuses to sell it or release it because of 'reasons' but I'm pretty sure this would be apart of it because Aja the song was done in 1 or 2 takes.
@MrT98225 жыл бұрын
I want the full has sessions... apparently Don and Walt tried a few other guitarist on Peg before settling on Jay...but I'd love to just gear everything hahaha
@goldenostrichman5 жыл бұрын
@@MrT9822 there's a video on the making of Peg and they show two of the other guitar solos auditions.
@MrT98225 жыл бұрын
@@goldenostrichman that's worth checking out!! I have a bootleg maxwell cassette that's Steely Dan Demo's with some awesome demos of just Fagan and piano
@leonidasrosales93154 жыл бұрын
Thank you Warren sir ! Well done ! 👌 ,'nuff heard , plenty to subscribe to your channel and can't , well , I'll wait patiently for your next creation
@scottmoyer13575 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was the actual session for the recording of the song Aja.
@sullysullster82177 жыл бұрын
Class rock.
@colie18736 жыл бұрын
Whhhhat? Mind blown
@rajneeshorrog7 жыл бұрын
What all of us "ordinary pros" aspired to!
@sucamusucamu29164 жыл бұрын
最終ミックスでは3:20と4:25からの3発のスネアが削られて3拍目に小さくミックスされていますね。In the final mix, the three snares from 3:20 and 4:25 have been removed and mixed small on the third beat.
@switchmuso3 жыл бұрын
As a Steely Dan fanatic who knows this track in his DNA, the only part that is different from the final mix is at 3.20 and 4.25, where there is a heavy snare offbeat... they probably copied the first iteration over. Referring to Scott Moyer's extremely helpful post, I am amazed the drums had only 3 toms, the tuning is superb; the drop-off on the tom notes is beautiful, and you can hear where they pushed the tom level up to make them frontline instruments in the final mix..
@niemand37745 жыл бұрын
SUUUUPER!!
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
You can hear that this is before "Denny Diaz" showed up for the session.
@andybaker93564 жыл бұрын
7:27 grooves so hard
@kz1000ps2 жыл бұрын
That kick, that snare syncopation, that ride bell HAMMERING out that gorgeous phrase..... one of the tastiest grooves ever recorded.
@petebourne7 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
Their engineer "Roger Nichols" doesn't get the credit he deserves. He recorded and mixed everything they did. Dan were so meticulous so it wouldn't have been easy for him.
@Orbiter2213 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Nichols mastered this song.
@bwolohan183 жыл бұрын
@@Orbiter221 Maybe not. I just assumed so because he did the majority of their stuff👍🇮🇪
@dadduorp3 жыл бұрын
I’d never noticed that little Chick Corea-ish riff on the piano before @4:23.
@mrmogensen6 жыл бұрын
okay is this a really good cover or did they remove that snare hit at 3:22 in post production?
@warrenweinberg29626 жыл бұрын
Not a cover. This probably an alternate take.
@oRuTRa455 жыл бұрын
Great question. That stood out to me too.
@geoffreydlang6 жыл бұрын
Nice track, but not the one used on the album. On AJA (and among other minor differences), there's no snare on beats '2' and '4' as there is here at 3:21 - and then on the repeat at 4:26. On the album, the snare is on beat '3' both times, and the drum pattern is generally played in half time around the eighth note pushes.
@dougzander49596 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Lang wow. I THOUGHT something stood out there. Thanks for that!!!!...also, the bass drum there plays ON the beat the second time 4:21 thru.
@Howard_Wright6 жыл бұрын
Yes, there are a few bars where the drums are different to the album cut, But apart from those sections, the rhythm track here is exactly what was used on the album track. They did a 2nd take, and spliced in those bars in the parts you identified.
@EddieG18884 жыл бұрын
@@Howard_Wright I'm in agreement with Howard, most of this take was definitely used in the final track. I'm listening mainly to Chuck Rainey's part (since I'm predominantly a bassist), and I highly doubt he could play the same part with all the exact nuances, phrasing and timing in two separate takes.
@zamaurijones27253 жыл бұрын
3:21 wish they kept this drum beat on the official track
@WhatOnEarthIsThisThing2 жыл бұрын
Yeah wasn't expecting that groove, that was cool
@RJPaul-px6vt5 жыл бұрын
Actually prefer this to the track on the album. Minority of one I guess.
@trystrat4 жыл бұрын
i’m with you
@RJPaul-px6vt4 жыл бұрын
@@trystrat Hi Ken, welcome to our desert island!
@juliocesarcordeiro41794 жыл бұрын
Both sound great!
@juliocesarcordeiro41794 жыл бұрын
Both as well
@mrmogensen4 жыл бұрын
Just when you thought the finishing drum solo couldn't get any better
@theonlydjtopcat4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, I thought the multi masters of Aja and Black Cow went missing? Were safety copies found somewhere?
@bwolohan184 жыл бұрын
I'd say it would have been pretty easy for an assistant engineer hanging back to just stick a cassette in and take a stereo output straight out of the desk.
@MrT98225 жыл бұрын
So is this fan made? Or a remixed master? Or an actual released or bootlegged recording?
@natemcdaniel28747 жыл бұрын
So was the stick click planned or an accident ? Has the truth ever come out ?
@Vektorer7 жыл бұрын
Perfection...click planned or not. The legend is that 2 takes were done. 2nd wasn't needed as the 1st was chosen for release. Oh, to hear the 2nd...
@JonnyLipshamStudios7 жыл бұрын
Actually, Donald has stated that the drum track was a combination of both takes, although the solos are from take 1. What we hear here, I believe is take 1. It is a t variance with the release track. Gadd also stated that he hit the rim of a floor tom in error, but Donald and Walter liked it, so it got printed.
@ronaldgenendlis64236 жыл бұрын
Gad almighty!!!!!
@tiluriso4 жыл бұрын
Perfect 'Aja' Karaoke track. For lead vocals and guitar solos.
@ultracalicokittycat7 жыл бұрын
we have to fill in the other instruments with our minds :~))
@rajneeshorrog7 жыл бұрын
Warren, where did you get this? It's so amazing? Did you play on this later?
@jimflys23 жыл бұрын
Well, whomever did this was quite good, but it is not the original track. Very close though. One part that hit me was the snare drum is not correct each time it comes up at 3:21 and following. Gadd is 1/2 time there. OnThis one it's regular back beat time at that same spot. Of course even if it really was done on the first take like they claim, they could have punched it as a 1/2 snare drum edit, but then how did this show up as an original file? Hmmm. Of course everything else is really great and very close. Kudos.
@adamfurnish84813 жыл бұрын
I was certain at the beginning that this was the final take before dubs, but hearing some of the key lines with the guitar and piano I started to notice it wasn’t the exact take, though they might’ve kept certain tracks since they were probably using a click
@RonaldCharlesEpstein6 жыл бұрын
Walter Becker and Donald Fagen have been able to assemble a musical machine whose components can work well without the entire unit.
@bluesandmore7863 жыл бұрын
Sorry. But without the guitar and some of the keyboards and sax, t's really lacking a lot. Thumbs DOWN.