COSTliest $$$ MISTAKES in the Permaculture Orchard and the Organic Orchard over 30 years (Pt 2 of 4)

[@themusenextdoor]

I'm setting up a patio permaculture because I don't see myself buying a house in the next decade. Keeping my fruit trees small enough for huge flowerpots will take quite a bit of work, but I think it'll be worth it.

[@18Bees]

A business friend said to me years ago “I made a lot of costly mistakes. Listen to me.” I was young and didn’t listen 😳😞

[@ZaneMedia]

Yup been there done that as well 🤦‍♂️

[@esmaistuu]

@Thomas Paxton why?

[@nelsonpagel2175]

I have a back yard garden and 6 fruit trees, my main issue is my soil which I have learned how to "make it better". I enjoy you sharing your knowledge and your presentation. Thanks for sharing!

[@annburge291]

Another great video on mistakes/learning experiences. We are so lucky to have internet and great teachers like you Stefan. Thank you. With all these Upickers waltzing about... could they be lured into buying some vegetables such as silver beet, kale, green beans, onions, basil, pumpkin, rosemary.... things growing under the trees that don't require much tender loving care. Not all needs to be fruit. You could rope someone in to make products with the fruit... they came for raspberries and apples and drove away with a box of jams, herbs, vegetables, flowers and the desired fruit. You could even sell whey for spaying, biofertilisers....all aimed at the homesteader, back yard grower. Since you are such a great communicator, I am sure you could convince a whole tribe of people willing to start small independent enterprises with you.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I’ve considered most all of them, that’s why I’m focusing on housing. You’re thinking on the right track Ann.

[@saltriverorchards4190]

The best way to learn is from other people’s mistakes. Thanks for sharing.

[@kmsvensson]

so helpful! Thanks for sharing :-)

[@Stezosledec559]

Brown bear play important role in dispersing apple seeds. So you need bears in orchard 😆😆😆😆. Which is not so uncommen in meadow orchards.

[@aliaksandrradziuk5438]

respect to Stefan!

[@MaybeSomeday833]

Love it! As I've commented before, I'm just now planting my permaculture orchard. What I didn't mention is, depending on the variety, I started the majority of my trees & shrubs from seed, cuttings, or grafted onto wild stock, or got very young trees & shrubs, starting 2-3 years ago when we bought our property. I've kept them in nursery beds, just like you have, for the past couple years and now have an unused field prepped and ready to go. I also bought rootstocks last year, and will be propagating those and grafting onto them with the best of my seedstock, or desired varieties of scionwood. I'm also trying to keep it organic, to the point of learning now how to raise my own beneficial nematodes and soon, beneficial bacillus. Thank you!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic great start.

[@danielguy1891]

Fyi, the choppy editing makes me dizzy

[@d-sow-13]

Thanks Stefan, starting up something new in upstate NY soon so your channel helps immensely being a somewhat similar climate. Always look forward to the new ones!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Depending how upstate you are and if you're in the mountains you may even have a colder climate.

[@Puchacz83]

Hello from Poland dear Stefan. I do hope to have orchard like Your in few years... I will have a good start having Your videos in mind. Thank You. ... but.. Please ask director of the videos.. to not cut the video so much. It's not right. Great work on Your orchard though.

[@andanssas]

14:16 great info! I might add for keeping records retrievable, tag each tree with a QR code to an online document. It's easy, cheap and fast nowadays.

[@honestlynate7922]

I grew up in an urban jungle and then found my way into the army. When I finished my time I ended up buying property in Mississippi and I had never even seen a chicken in person 5 years later I had 40 fruit trees 20 goats and had raised countless fowl. My wife and I recently found our way back to New England and though we still own the property in mississippi, it's a long way away from our daily responsibilities today and we have to start all over. No goats no chickens no fruit trees that were already five years long and producing. It's a hard pill to swallow but I'm going to apply everything I've learned and all the mistakes I've made along the way. I'm going to start small and I'm going to plant in trios

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Nate the learning curve is not as steep the second time. You will see many shortcuts. You’ll make it.

[@ceili]

That thumbnail is a work of art!!!

[@ZaneMedia]

Hahaha thank you :) I’ve been having fun doing his thumbnails again I’m glad you’re enjoying them 👍

[@friendlyfoodforest8033]

Always love some food forest review this time off year. Thanks

[@tmzumba]

Thank you for sharing. I got a good laugh on some of these, and I will definitely keep a lot of these lessons in mind.

[@MsCaterific]

I love this! Thank you!! P.S. This is quite similar to your last video or is it the same one?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

One mistake was repeated because it was a big one. Two more videos to come. Lots of mistakes.

[@rosemacaskie]

What about early and Late applesand ones that store forever and cookers? DItto all other fruit. that is a reason to have lots of fruit not that mine ever do fruit.

[@LivadaBio]

Super !

[@kp4125]

Awesome

[@KaiKiko__Foxkit]

Thank you!

[@LadyRickie]

The apple tree branches hitting window and gutters, can I cut them now so no house damage?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes

[@Stezosledec559]

Counter how many orchard is established in Stefan way. Like is yes.

[@MauricioBadricio]

Ive started up this year a pecan nut orchard with nitrogen fixers, local forest fruir trees and citrus. Stefan trios simplified things allot and made me escale things up easily, its not over conplicated like some permacultures way of planting.

[@Stezosledec559]

MauricioBadricio yes it gives nice pattern in overall chaos.

[@charlesdevier8203]

I started planting a new orchard during fall of 2016. I now have 25 fruit trees with fruiting bushes between the trees. My "nitrogen fixers" is a great stand of white clover.

[@peterlawrence738]

Dear Stefan, you’re a treasure...your cameraman...not so much...

[@LadyRickie]

Had help harvesting honey crisp apples. Strangeness on some of the apples.

[@karrot6157]

Hi Stefan, thanks for the great video. Which zone are you in? Thanks

[@StefanSobkowiak]

US 4 Canada 5

[@wisss.53]

Can we use the seeds from a cultivar that grows in Quebec (hardy) to get good rootstocks?

[@ashleygonzales4683]

Alot of people use seeds for growing rootstock but you wont know the exact quality but most the time you'll get the hardyness you're looking for

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Most rootstock have a selection of specific traits, most notably a dwarfing size. Seedlings work but will likely give you a bigger tree and you never know maybe it will give you a new, wonderful fruit.

[@peterlawrence738]

Dear Wiss, remember that a seed will produce a drought resistant tap root...a root stock cutting won’t

[@ashleygonzales4683]

@@peterlawrence738 that was something I also didn't know

[@mikevanhoutum2844]

Hi Stefan, could you comment on which plastic sheet mulch you are using? A link perhaps? I'd like to use it for our existing mango orchard in spain (hot climate), and add shrubs and nitrogen trees as you did

[@flatsville1]

Since you have spray lines in the permacultur orchard, what do you spray in that section & when do you feel it is necessary?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

The lines are not from spray but the edge of plastic mulch.

[@flatsville1]

@@StefanSobkowiak In at least one video you mentioned lines (and something about wires?) attached to the locust trees that you use as "posts." These are above ground lines horizontal lines I can sometimes see running between trees. So, those are spray lines used for water only? Do you ever spray an organic pesticide or herbicide?

[@martinkosmak6800]

Great video! Speaking of mistakes, I just moved to Virginia (zone 6b) and I'd like to plant some fruit trees asap. Would it be a mistake to plant them now in fall just before the winter hits, or should I wait until spring? What would you recommend Stefan? Thank you for all your wisdom!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fall always except for conifers.

[@martinkosmak6800]

@@StefanSobkowiak thank you so much

[@Thomas-wn7cl]

Thanks for sharing your mistakes. As a carpenter, I could tell you all sorts of construction doozies.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Imagine if you did a youtube with those!!! It may save thousands of people repeating them.

[@matthewtaylor2185]

Do you do videos on relationships for guys 22 years ago???

[@kolapyellow7631]

Can a pear be grafted on apple?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes but may not take.

[@robertbrawley5048]

Just think. If you had youtube 30 years ago. Increditable

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Oh how I wish I had it when I started.

[@marvinbaier3627]

Do you buy rootstock or make your own rootstock?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Have bought pear rootstock but we grow our own apple rootstock.

[@marvinbaier3627]

Stefan Sobkowiak cool. I have enough apple trees but sometimes rootstock gets expensive. Just starting up a little farm of different trees and animals. Thanks for all your videos!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Rootstock is the cheapest way to start, except when you can use seeds. Most of the time I’ve seen bulk rootstock bundles (25 and up) between$.50- $4 a piece. Compared to grafted trees at $7-40 each depending on volume that’s a big difference.

[@bettinaripperger4159]

Can you make a video on making rootstock

[@mousasaab2652]

In good spirit, you look like a retired John Bolton.

[@MsCaterific]

🖤

[@snsmystic]

I love your information, but the cuts are too jarring to watch the video :(

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@ghanemghanem7520]

Stay To Me

[@paulc.7547]

Thanks for the info. But I see another mistake.. The editing of this video. Cutting the video with the goal of 'shortening' sentences and making a 'hip' video with endless cuts.. It doesn't resonate with me. I'm very annoyed and distracted by it. Now it only works as a podcast... But still very restless. Thanks for all the content though. But stop the hip editing please. I have time, take it easy.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I had full of brain farts and it would have taken 10 minutes more. A trade off.

[@paulc.7547]

@@StefanSobkowiak :) that's fair. Keep up the good work

[@Cor347]

I find it difficult to concentrate on what you are telling because of the very many cuts in the video. Almost every second a cut.

[@ZaneMedia]

Thanks for the feedback! It seems like we just can’t win though haha. People were complaining that he would “ramble” on and on so we’ve decided to cut the videos to get “straight to the point”

[@Stezosledec559]

Zack Zane . Please upload full length video. I like to hear what is rumbling about.😀

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I’m the first to like to hear birds in the background but for most people they want info and get impatient with too much dead air.