Stellaris - When the Crisis is Too Powerful

Inspired by true events

[@sikarek070945]

Last time i was playing with this crisis, an awakened empire slap it out of existence within the first decade and saved my system :)

[@none-of-your-busi-ness]

that's why you gotta push it to 15x

[@newonthewatcher2023]

@@none-of-your-busi-ness Usually I play on normal settings but I always raise the crisis modifier. Feels like an awakened empire always just smashes their fleet in a couple of years

[@kerbodynamicx472]

In my playthrough, it was only about 6 months, the unbidden only invaded two or three system before getting crushed by the awakened empire. Although this feels like an “Odin is with us” moment, I literally have to use the jump drive to score some kills before the awakened empire erase them from existence

[@stalwartteakettlepotato9879]

@@newonthewatcher2023 if you have the dlc a war in heaven is a lot more fun and challenging then the crisis. Even when upscaled crisis are usually easy to dogpiled

[@demonfreeman3018]

If you want you can make the crisis a lot more powerful or come earlier

[@vexcine]

The Unbidden, the only crisis I've ever encountered. Peacefully building megastructures, just out of a gruesome war thinking we set the setting to 25 years later than the year we were at. How wrong we were...

[@Crazylom]

My second ever Stellaris run (first being fuck around to learn controls™ run). I setted Dyson sphere, matter decompressor and mega shipyard, decent planets and alloy production. I was peacefully building up my alloy production for fleets, while everyone ignored my humans. And then...The Signal appeared. From faraway system i never cared about... The Unbidden. It definetly wasn't good. Naval capacity mentally limited fleets to around 400-500 (can't recall), alloys low. Whilst building fleets, Unbidden kept pushing on others, with unseen strength i've yet to equal with. left-top-middle was almost occupied, top to middle-right doing a road to other parts. Everyone in panic, while crisis declaration's yet to be introduced. Someone had to take action... I sent my first fleet, that by galaxy standards was pretty strong, buy left with dumbfounded defeat. Evaporated like nothing. So, new plans for defeating the crisis, that conquered half of galaxy - all battleships with one Titan per fleet, with followup of Juggernaught. It was the begining of Freeding Crusade. And as it is began, 2 fleets made their way upward, where Unbidden was basically at border. System after system, with ships being molten into rust, Unbidden was going away! Yet more fleets, Juggernaught almost done, but...Fleetstack of death steamrolled previous two. Got to be careful, deductive... By the year 2450, Right side of galaxy was almost freed, by 2500, Unbidden was pushed back to where it came from. Anticipation for stomping the thread was at highest. Fleets that assured their avengeful retribution, renamed into Freedom Fleet, was in mere systems away. 2. 1. Portal destroyed. Thread to the galaxy no more. Though many will never see the light of day, those who could, look forward to new ally - United Nations of Earth. Though i forgot a lot since then, that's how My essentially First Stellaris game went. I know it went into sort of story setting, but it seems fitting

[@Unknownsoldier740]

I have to force them to spawn or I never see them

[@xzardas541]

Unbidden are trolls and can spawn 50 years before late game year if anyone uses jump drive or GC pases dimensional research. This almost guarantees that end game crisis will allways be unbidden since they have 50 year ticks to spawn before any other crisis can start ticking.

[@Unknownsoldier740]

@@xzardas541 And yet I have never rolled them. Must be bad, or good, luck.

[@xLionsxxSmithyx]

In my game... Pirates kept me hidden from the 30 other players in the lobby... I just shored up my defences, I had only 1 lane in, I had access to 27 planets, a fleet power of 1.6 million, everyone got massacred by the prethoryn Scourge and I laughed at their inevitable doom as i sent out my fleets to rescue what was left of them.

[@artemisorwhatever9828]

I love the concept of an empire realizing the Galaxy is doomed and hesitantly deciding to take the crisis with them. It's such a poetic thing.

[@seanandre3231]

The start of Halo. It's exactly what happened.

[@troyscribner4342]

@@seanandre3231my thought too lol

[@idontlikerome2744]

One can use the Crisis to destroy the Crisis

[@CandleWisp]

"A thousand plans were tried and failed... This, was the last resort" "Halo"

[@jamesmclemore9123]

Boy have I got a game for you.

[@ZulatobariGreatforge]

Fun fact, if you 'continue' the game, after destroying the galaxy with Unbidden in it, the Unbidden actually survive. The games still over, you won as the Crisis, but its funny to note that they simply don't die to that (unless its been fixed?)

[@itsmegoodbye9227]

Tempted to see if it kills the Blokkatz in the gigastructual engineering mod

[@ninjad9124]

@@itsmegoodbye9227 They are too powerful they disable the engine

[@maiddzomba8069]

@@itsmegoodbye9227 they laugh at such primitive technology

[@kalimatronix]

@@ninjad9124 they do like Thanos reversing time to get the last stone, but like disabling the Engine and harvesting the Crisis capital system. And as soon as they do it, a Player empire which finally build that Gigastructure rushes in trying to take their mothership down which they succeed with lots of destroyed Attack moons and Planet crafts while Systemcrafts and QSA dealing most of damage.

[@ducky8075]

@@itsmegoodbye9227 If you try they just turn off the engine. They’ve seen it before.

[@AlwaysSomeone]

It seems the Crisis is always either a complete pushover Or a completely unstoppable behemoth that wipes the galaxy There is no middle ground

[@mdhall04]

There is. Ive had a what must of been a century war with the swarm. I could beat them at choke points but if i launched an offensive i would suffer too many loses. They were dominating a third of the galaxy and some order was formed to fight them off. I eventually sent a corvette fleet and captured a queen. It was a epic struggle.

[@mastersonogashira1796]

Yea especially the swarm where you can just camp it

[@veryangryduckpl2122]

Yeah, in my playthrough as fanatic authoritarian materialist with the help of awakened empire we beat the duck out of contingency, especially because I have fought a fallen empire before (won but forgot to get 2 systems) and had dark matter tech. My 10 k fleet once anihilated 38 k fleet of contingency.

[@Xaphnir]

I feel like ignoring the crisis and letting the AI try to deal with it should be that middle ground. But if you're capable of dealing with it, the crisis always seems too scared to take more than a few systems even if you avoid interfering with it. Or it will just go straight for the player while ignoring everything else and suicide into your fleets. Pretty sure there's some anti-player bias in the AI for the crisis, and that is one of the major contributing factors to this dichotomy.

[@Stingra87]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

[@thatoneweeb-wehraboo2424]

Awhile back I was playing a game as a determined exterminator crisis and the Unbidden had appeared about half a decade after the galaxy declared war on me. Thankfully I spent alloys into 100k+ Citadels and massive fleets and was on the opposite side of the galaxy when they spawned which gave me time to prepare and weakened them. At one point there was just a string of systems that we kept contesting and devastating because at the end was a wormhole that lead to a system that was neighboring my capital. 5 outposts destroyed, 500k Fleet power destroyed, and 17 days of horrible lag later, I finally gathered enough Dark matter to complete the engine and destroy the galaxy in the late 2500s

[@edivimo]

A nice happy ending!!

[@warbrain1053]

Eh, in my experience with 25x unbidden. Anything below 2 millio' fleet power gets murdered

[@thatoneweeb-wehraboo2424]

@@warbrain1053 then again, you're playing with 25×. I play with 1× because I just play casually, not hard-core

[@warbrain1053]

@@thatoneweeb-wehraboo2424 eh i usually do to but i decided to challenge myself. I won; and i will never touch 25x again without mods. It took me a 6.5M fleet power with repeatable armor/shields research for 80 years to kill the 25x unbidden fleets

[@MstrGalzraVoid]

The unbidden spawned in the home system is a fallen empire that was beside me. I was becoming the end game crisis but stopped before the final stage. While I did crush the unbidden if not for my strong borders I would have lost the game. My fleets got wiped by the unbidden but I won, I was meanwhile in a war with a purifier, a devouring swarm and a fed of 5 members. Strong border saved me while I rebuilt my fleets. I was playing a devouring swarm I created as a reference to command and & conquer. I called them Tiberian Sun, they worked surprisingly well compared to what I was expecting. Only needed to make a minor tweak in my test game with them.

[@kperf99]

I had something similar, i was playing as a tall technocracy with all the bordering empires as vassals. the borders were had an inner layer of defense and an outer layer of defense; the unbidden spawned right inbetween the borders, i was at the endgame as the crisis so when they spawned in that area i got all my fleet to the closes inner defense station and started to produce massive amounts of crisis ships. in the end I was able to contain the unbidden while my vassals were fighting against the rest of the galaxy.

[@MstrGalzraVoid]

@@kperf99 I've had some of the worst luck you'll ever see. Started a match and spawned at the edge of the galaxy, I had all of maybe 4 systems to my name and a marauder empire blocking my only way out. My precursor did let me find a relic world giving me a path out but the marauder woke up and murdered me immediately later in the game.

[@davecrupel2817]

That's why the only mods i use are ones that increase the potential size, scale & power of stations. So i could entrust the security of my borders to mighty mega-citadels and solar strongholds.

[@Nibmus]

The Scrin huh? I mained the Scrin when my mates and I played Kane's Wrath lmao

[@MstrGalzraVoid]

@@Nibmus I've since made a few other races based on different games. Decided to add NOD as a fanatic spiritualist to play with. If I was doing that might as well add GDI so added them to. In one of my matches I was playing with the umbrella corporation I made. I had GDI and NOD spawn near each other. They were always at war. Saw my tib race once. Man they steam rolled their neighbors. I also have The Flood from halo + couple I made myself. Far as C&C Kane's Warth goes I switched between GDI steel talons and NOD black hand as my 2 most played. Nothing more fun then walking through a base with those avatars cleansing everything in a wall of flame.

[@septemberbud]

D.E taking the Ascension Perk: If I can't destroy this galaxy empire by empire... then I will make sure there isn't a galaxy for YOU to destroy either!

[@ApostleCobra]

hey man whatd ya mean by D.E.?

[@Kivith]

@@ApostleCobra Determined Exterminators

[@ApostleCobra]

@@Kivith thx

[@trinityyeet9883]

You can't kill us if i just killed us

[@GewalfofWivia]

Am I tripping or are Unbidden suspiciously like civilizations that completed the engine and transcended into the shroud?

[@lubu2960]

I read that you can ask them about the shroud, they said they know about the shroud and it is very close to them.

[@zetarhythm3503]

It is likely that they are post-aetherophasic civilisations and that the dead galaxies resulting from the engines are the "hole in the void" mentiones by the Prethoryn. It could also be that the Contingency exists to prevent the engines from being used.

[@mightoffire1109]

@@zetarhythm3503 they're probably not as the shroud is close, the aetherophasic engine makes you shroud beings inside the shroud. The hole in the void is absolutely the aetherophasic engine unless something else appears, and no the contingency was made to stop some MUCH worse, something universe threatening, though the aetherophasic engine might be a step if a nation doesn't use it and instead goes beyond

[@MouldMadeMind]

@@mightoffire1109 i always thought it was to stop the end of the cycle.

[@mightoffire1109]

@@MouldMadeMind The Contigency can happen via unlocking synthetics, meaning this destroyer of the universe is to do with this, spiritualist nations, who are most likely to open the shroud and get end of the cycle, don't get robots so the contingency wouldn't detect them, which doesn't make any since then what is their point? Therefore it can be inferred the contingency wants to stop something getting hyperintelligent and life like ai that could potentially destroy the entire universe, the aetherophasic engine might not even be its enemy

[@khristopherheiss52]

So I once played a super and I mean super condensed tall build I had three systems but I was so advanced I boosted my citadels up to 100k an had fleets of 10 battleships totaling 250k an I had several of them. The end game crisis happened and the whole galaxy got taken down. An all that was left was my systems. The end game crises couldn't break my defenses. Over 213 years of fighting I finally gave up as I didn't have the production capabilities to replace my fleets fast enough if I lost them. But the swarm couldn't break through my defenses due to all my home teratory bonuses. And the fact I had allg fleets bouncing between two systems

[@peasantking2622]

Nice. What was your build?

[@khristopherheiss52]

@@peasantking2622 I was a void dweller with a simple diplomatic gov. My ethos where fanatical egallaterian for the housing buildings and shared burdens living conditions. An military for the extra fire rate. I eventually picked up maritocracy for the additional 10% to specialist production.

[@dylan__dog]

Always get the mega shipyard

[@Wells13555]

You've created a grimdark Sci fi novel. The spiritual successor to that one civilization game of eternal hellish war a person played for like 20 years or something.

[@Crazylom]

In a galaxy, where every living being was assimilated into swarm of eldrich hive, only three systems remain. With remnants of those, who once knew it by heart to be peacefull and full of life. Protected by stellar borders, and fleets of purity.

[@Diego-tz7si]

Back in the days of antiquity, before the planetary rework, when defeating the crisis had not yet been turned into an insuferable wait for a predictable ending, I remember the first time I fought the Contingency. I had ousted the fallen empires from their crumbling thrones and become a watchful protector of the galaxy, a psionic steward against slavery and genocide. When two of our own worlds awoke with the ancient malice of the machine, our people died in the millions to hold them at bay until the cleansing lightning of the Zeus-class battleships erased the taint of abominable intelligence from the systems of the Terran Republic. Yet this was nothing but a prelude from my most memorable event of a thousand hours of Stellaris. As the fleets of the republic engaged the inside threat, all the peoples of the galaxy, tyrants and citizens, recluses and diplomats, warriors and priests, all assembled a massive combined fleet, ammounting over a million fleetpower in standard galactic metrics, the greatest alliance in many cicles, according to curator archives. Expecting the fall of the republic and their eventual demise, they put their last and only hope in striking down the Heart of Darkness, the unholy Nexus, vessel of the Contingency's will. Outgunned and facing annihilation, the will of the small peoples of the galaxy nevertheless stood firm against the synthetic batteries, toppling and slaying vessels that had overseen the slaughter of trillions over the eons. Yet the will of the Contingency proved too much for them. Every second of the battle saw dozens of allied ships erased form existence by the uncaring machine mind. All seemed lost. Subspace ruptures opened at the edges of the system, heralding reinforcements for the Contingency. Yet from the ripples of space came not synthetic executioners, but the legions of the republic, a thousand arcs of energy channeled from the spine of their battleships, aiming for the heart of the Beast. As they stroke true, the mad wailing of the machine ceased, and only silence remained. Moments like this are why I still play Stellaris. Despite performance, imbalance, content seen a hundred times over. It all fades away in light of these memories.

[@forgottendragonpriestartem3414]

Reminds me of a game I recently played with a mod that allowed me to spawn on a relic world as a “ancient forgotten empire that’s re-awakening” basically same thing happened but later, a devouring swarm proved too much and with a HALO mod, I lit the rings. As thanos said, “I am….inevitable.”.

[@KraNisOG]

Reminds me of a MP game I had where I was playing tall and 2 machine worlds spawned in my empire while I was embroiled in a war with two people. My borders were absolutely god tier, and the enemies couldn't breach it. I ended up obliterating one of the worlds, and sending aid to a machine empire, which had been my friend for sometime thanks to rp purposes. The other world was somewhat pacified, but I was waiting to rebuild my fleet in order to make the strike. And once the host took a major L we just never played the game again. I used to be accused of cheating a lot in Stellaris games, but at least in WSC I was only accused of cheating like once, and I've only ever lost one game (Host had me get invaded and conquered because my internet unfortunately was garbage that day, and I didn't really make anything because I wanted to be conquered to let everyone else enjoy the game.)

[@josephharrison8354]

So... your best Stellaris moments are when you recreate Mass Effect? I can get behind that.

[@ACrazedGaming]

@@josephharrison8354 i was thinking the same thing lol

[@FarmerSlayerFromTheEdoPeriod]

@@forgottendragonpriestartem3414 Could you give me the name of that mod please? Sounds pretty fucking solid.

[@someonethatdefonitelyexists]

In my playthrough the unbidden came on the other side of the galaxy and a fallen empire woke up to help but i was the one who did everything, literally. Then when they were gone the awakened empire had the audacity to declare war on me and the whole galaxy (i was the emperor).

[@GregMeije]

Fun fact, after destroying the galaxy, I once had the unbidden still exist

[@pillowmcnormalman2753]

Technically I think they still exist outside the galaxy so yay they’d just be without their “food”

[@Crazylom]

You: *'liven't the galaxy** Unbidden: **opens portal** "Where'd everyone go?"

[@FrostGiant91]

You haven't destroy the portal Wiping their entire number just trigger the game to spawn more in which ofc look like they survived the blast

[@Darlf_Sevil]

@@FrostGiant91 they are woal energy aliens and they not be psi bsc they are a psi xd

[@FrostGiant91]

@@Darlf_Sevil English hello?

[@oylumo]

I had the unbidden attack while i was fighting a war, i was that powerful i took them out within a decade. It felt like that one clip of two kids fighting and a third kid comes along and does a jump kick but gets thrown aside

[@warbrain1053]

More like an adult beating down a kid and the other kid gets shot if you know how to play

[@C0deH0wler]

More like 30 days for me because I have uber-fleets littered all over the map from past liberation wars, lol.

[@Alexander_myxa]

мартышкааа

[@thedaikester]

The fuckin Gray Tempest nearly wrecked my shit and the entire galaxy

[@forgottendragonpriestartem3414]

This reminds me of a game I played where (via mods)I played as the remnants of an ancient empire rivaling the Fallen Empires on a relic world, basically got close to forming the Galactic Empire but the Unbidden spawned. Slowly choke-point after choke-point fell, until (with the help of another mod) the scourge arrived. The scourge beat them back but pulled a “one evil swapped for another bigger evil”, and overwhelmed my systems till it was my home-system and a few systems with HALO rings. Due all HALO Installations having what could call a “magiont system” as defenses, once the scourge broke through my home system I lit the rings. Killing all sapient life in the galaxy, it was a week later that I realized “holy sh*t, I literally pulled a HALO.”.

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

I call bullshit on dr strange not being able to revive Tony with the time stone Thanos used it to bring the mindstone back The excuse “what the stones have done is permanent” is bs since the mindstones powers destroyed the mindstone

[@Leo-ok3uj]

Endgame was BS

[@52flyingbicycles]

Dr Strange didn’t revive Tony because Tony was better off dying a hero

[@goofball5182]

You mean the mind stone right

[@goofball5182]

@M. A dang brutal. I thought it was okay. You’re not entirely wrong, but I felt it had a deeper meaning that just fighting

[@talos2384]

There needs to be an option for fanatic spiritualists to feed pop to the unbidden in exchange for them not wiping them out.

[@Davy-xw9vd]

Nah.

[@xzardas541]

As if unbidden would give a crap.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

Even if there was, the Unbidden would betray any agreement

[@theredsir869]

That doesn’t make much sense the fanatic spiritualist would see the unbidden as false gods and declare crusade.

[@davidthelong2154]

Especially if you have the Death Cult civic in which sacrifice is the big mechanic

[@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808]

My first experience with the Unbidden went as follows: >They spawn on the other side of the galaxy >I think I'm okay >I forgot I picked the Shroud teacher origin and had a wormhole built in my capital system >_The wormhole is three jumps away from the Dimensional Rift_ >100k fleet shows up in my completely undefended home system, which had a 15k merc station, a 25k starbase, and a tier two Aetherophasic Engine

[@celebrim1]

My very first play through of Stellaris, I rolled the Unbiddden and I was like, "OK, this is massively worse than anything I expected but I got this." AND THEN like two years into that problem, one of the Fallen Empires awakened and declared war on me, completely ignoring the Unbidden that had appeared right on their doorstep, used a gate to send their battle fleets into the rear of my empire and started attacking my largely undefended systems in preference to fighting off the galaxy wide scourge. I had like TWO crisis going on simultaneously. I just gave up and stopped playing.

[@dustinjones7458]

Survivable? Lol Your best bet would have been to surrender to the FE. You become a vassal, sure, but that means they would have to deal with the UBs.

[@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK]

I've had the Unbidden spawn during a war in heaven and get totally ignored by the galaxy at large, letting them just conquer and spawn their 'friends', with neither awakened empire even tried to face them. Ultimately, that galaxy was lost cos right as I sallied out to defeat the Aberrant rift, the final one, both awakened empires reach my home system and cracked my worlds, destroying me just short of victory. The Aberrant then proceeded to wipe out all life in the galaxy

[@dustinjones7458]

Bad Ending unlocked

[@olafgurke4699]

And that's why you deal with the old farts first.

[@BreadBox.]

I recently had a game where the Unbidden spawned right next to a Fallen Empire I was going to war with, and we managed to wipe them out before they spread to a single system because I already had my entire 300k+ fleet assembled and signed a truce with the Fallen.

[@Kostarpk21]

Ah, this beautiful war on three fronts, Galactic Community, awakened empire and Unbidden.... We need MORE minerals

[@purplemanwill250]

My first and currently only run as the crisis had something like this. It was max x25 endgame crisis, I had just unlocked the final crisis stage myself and the unbidden spawned shortly afterwards. Due to this and unfortunate timing and admittedly poor plays on my part, I was little bit in over my head and figured the only way I was gonna take care of the unbidden and the greater galaxy was to end it all, which was a shame because I only used the crisis perk to more easily conquer the galaxy than actually destroy it. Thankfully despite being hilariously outgunned by the unbidden, for some reason they’d only attack my territory in the L cluster, so it was pretty easy to just camp a fleet at an other gate and once the unbidden were roughly half way to the terminal egress bastion, I’d send in a kinetic heavy fleet and essentially trap the unbidden between my fleet and bastion; leading to consistent victories for a good long while. Ultimately Egress fell and they started pouring into the rest of my empire so I couldn’t really do that anymore, but by then the reality bomb thing was finished and annihilated everything anyway :) Funny thing is there was still a single unbidden fleet left amongst the hundreds of black holes, I’ve no idea how it survived XD Anyone else seen this?

[@itsmegoodbye9227]

I think they only survive if they are currently traveling through a hyperlane when the engine explodes

[@Storming360]

I once played as a devouring swarm and after the entirety of neighbors (then galaxy) vowed to eradicate me after I consumed my peaceful rivals. then no matter how aggressively I dismantled their empires, they kept coming. the problem was that I was fighting a three-front war for nearly 120 or more years or so and my empire had 2 L gates in very inconvenient places. so after the last races joined in the war against me I started the crisis tradition to just combat them. in the end when the unbidden came, they were more like saviors of the galaxy; because even without the crisis engine, most of the galaxy was either dead or consumed and only less than 10 system were left before they all were vaporized.

[@colinburd6409]

They may take our starbases, but they will never take our galaxy!

[@snowrubu]

I feel like contingency is the scariest one because instead of just having that one portal which you can easier create choke points around you just have like multiple spawns spread all through the galaxy and it just quickly becomes overwhelming

[@emhkayho]

I agree. I remember the time I played the contingency, I had the 4th strongest fleet in the galaxy but none of the powerful AI empire came to my aid. Had to do it myself. Immediately after the contingency, an Ai in my federation with the 2nd strongest fleet left while were just about to throw blows with the strongest federation in the game. It was a gruesome war that remains inconclusive till today.

[@randomintrovertedspider7510]

My first endgame crisis was the contingency. It truly was hell.

[@Matthew-li7we]

My last two playthroughs have seen the Unbidden spawn. I am sad to say that the Awakened Empires DESTROYED them like they were insignificant bugs. Didn't even give me a chance to fight them myself....

[@abeenr2]

Thats why you play on 10x crisis difficulty.

[@Average_Slav]

I once got a game where I got push into my home system by the crisis, the war in heaven and a coalition of 3 giga empires: I was a militaristic empire who occupied half the galaxy and dwarf even the fallen empires with 120 planets and two 1.2 million fleets and like seven others between 800/600k each but even with that I got decimated by the crisis, the war in heaven and a like 4 wars. After like 1,5 years of constant war I got push back to my core systems and the only place to enter was my home system. It was hell, The battle continue for months and I end up stopping 4 juggernauts, 2 colosus, almost 2.9 million fleets power, 5 real life hours and I will say even more. The battle endured more that some wars and we fight for every single planet and asteroid with even more fleets coming in. Thanks god or something even more dark and powerful I end up winning, almost 4.8 million or more fleet power were consumed but I end up winning. I destroy the crisis and stop the alliance and the awaken empires, but yeah, it only cost me all my empire, my reserve of money in the form of 750k Zro, 2000 pops and like 20 real life days 👍 Oh god the lag, the days where literal minutes

[@Crazylom]

"4.8 million or more feet power"

[@Average_Slav]

@@Crazylom I actually call my Third fleet the "3° feet" I'm hilarious

[@joebloggs7514]

*activates engine - shroud “what was shall be what shall be was, you will join us and we shall feast”.

[@ericdugdale8585]

My first time encountering a crisis was the Unbidden. They happened to spawn in the home system of a nearby Fallen Empire. The invasion didn't last long.

[@vantor6841]

Still better love story than Twilight.

[@Jrookus]

Whenever I get to the crisis, it’s always a cake walk. Gigastructures are way too strong for them.

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Yeah the nicoll Dyson beam kind of trivializes the unbidden and the contogency since you can destroy the portal and the sterilization hubs. I've yet to play it with the scourge as the crisis so hopefully it proves more of a challenge.

[@crim1188]

I mean, thats why the mod got its own crisis

[@calebblaha7854]

I was doing a cooperative multiplayer game. Our 3 empires where up next to each other. The unbidden spawned in the middle of us, bisecting the one empire like it was the eye of terror. Of course this was after our fleets we’re ravaged by the war in heaven, and we’re rather depleted overall

[@KraNisOG]

So kinda like the Roman Empire and Sassanid Persia, had a huge a war and couldn't really replace the lost manpower, and so the rising Muslims (or in your case the Unbidden) rather easily press through the systems, only to be stopped short of total victory by well placed citadels?

[@emhkayho]

Barbarians at the gates. Did you win? How did it end?

[@mgeldarion58]

I did something like that during the Grey Tempest invasion. Had few enemies so built a colossus and began blasting my own planets to produce Menace and in the end blew up everything... but one Grey Tempest fleet survived while flying through hyperspace.

[@kisham]

Some time ago i was playing with some specially successful custom species: i managed to cover a good portion of space with minimal wars, had some vassals... life was good. Then the unbidden came, from a gate on the other side of the galaxy, just in a moment between wars when i was upgrading and reinforcing my borders: by the time i was prepared and move my fleets to destroy their stations, i realized, to my dismay, that with the exception of my empire, EVERYONE else was wipeout. I remember a feeling of loneliness as never in my life, expanded myself a few systems and shut that particular game for making me sad. I love this game.

[@Danarogon]

The fucking Aberrant punch. My sides were not expecting it xD

[@mastersonogashira1796]

Too bad Thanos just loaded a previous save

[@dragonslair951167]

I remember the last time I took on the Unbidden. It seemed hopeless; I lost most of my fleets to an awakened empire that attacked me instead of the Unbidden, and they wouldn't quit it until I eradicated them entirely in a pyrrhic victory. What few allies I did have were too weak to do much more than slow the Unbidden down. I managed to fight my way to the portal itself and camp their fleet spawns, but even so, picking apart the fleets that had already arrived was a long and grueling process. By the end of it, most of the galaxy was either devoid of life, too weak from the war to be any threat to me, or under my direct control, so I won.

[@dbhchaos8005]

I had this crisis show up at pretty much the exact same time as my Big Red Button was ready. I thought it was hilarious, they barely managed to move into the galaxy before I just blew it all up in their face.

[@lucifersatan8240]

"Fine. I'll do it myself."

[@johnthecrazedsskull81]

sadly this doesn't work, I've tried it against the Unbidden and I didn't get the achievement nor did it wipe them from the map, they all just sat there waiting for their fleets to return.

[@joebloggs7514]

Best defence against unbidden - see galaxy all going psionic, go for genetic mastery and upgrade a species to become fantastic troops, Sit in cohesive wormhole systems with no gateways, externally connecting hyperlanes, or wormholes, build massive border defences and fleet. Sit back and watch, as the galaxy and then the unbidden break upon your walls.

[@Wormy_fren]

Don't unhidden delete worlds from existence? Making a army useless?

[@joebloggs7514]

@@Wormy_fren yes and no, they really really effect psionic empires and pops and pretty much delete those worlds and pops. For non psionics it becomes more a case of facing a massive crisis that jumps here there and everywhere. I haven’t faced them in a while though as have only started playing again recently so information may be outdated.

[@Biodeamon]

fear it, dread it, the crisis always arrives

[@52flyingbicycles]

I gotta start buffing the crisis more because I can swat 1.5x like a fly. I had a game where the unbidden literally captured a single system. I actually stalled taking them out so I could research matter destroyers before all the AIs could close their borders and kick out my science ship

[@ThatGuyNicho]

Matter Destroyers are always worth researching. In my last game - which was my first (and, blessed be, successful!) run at BTC, I used the MDs to great effect on Menacing Ships to fight off the rest of the galaxy. It was quite something. A challenging fight to be sure, but worth it.

[@52flyingbicycles]

@@ThatGuyNicho I love focused arc emitters - matter destroyers on my end game battleships. MDs have almost as much dps as neutron launchers and slightly lower range, but their 5 tracking and +100% vs hull makes them good at fighting AIs, where smaller ships and bulky starbases are the majority of fights.

[@TheRevanchists]

You forgot the last bit. The Xenophile Awakened Empire (Thor) shows up and wrecks, only for the Unbidden to say they should have aimed for the head, snapped their fingers and having the Abherrant show up.

[@EvelynNdenial]

then you reload a save to see what would have happened and thor comes in with kinetic artillery battleships and kills the portal.

[@redtsun67]

They were the first crisis I encountered and they properly rocked my entire empire, which was a shame, because I had already taken over half the galaxy and was starting to feel pretty good about myself. "I'm actually getting a lot better at this game to make it this far. I'm actually winning wars now" The Unbidden humbled me.

[@guilhemraboud7808]

Gotta say, the determined exterminator was thr strongest out there, dueling for the entire time the crisis empire and toward the end, fighting back against the unbidden

[@groggywater2006]

My first crisis was the unbidden and the UNE just swooped in thru a wormhole and ruined everything as per usual by stealing my kills and ending the crisis before it really got going. 0/10 would not ally with again.

[@LucianCanad]

Nice and subtle touch having one of the Unbidden factions on the punch that knocked Steve out.

[@Alpharius_Dominatus]

During the crisis, it's time for me to shine, oh nevermind, I'm the crisis

[@sicsempertyrannishonk7197]

Unbidden is hands down the easiest crisis.

[@bellmikhailov]

POV: *You are the crisis and becoming the stronger and everyone tries to stop you*

[@jetstreamchad4712]

Faced these guys, oh rest their poor hungry souls. They did not expect me to have 5 fleets with a combined military power of 2.5m

[@whiskey09]

Yeah. I still havent won one game. Everytime i get towards the endgame some federation decides he wants to tango, then literally the Endgame Crisis pops up like "ehere be my invitation?". And we all get smashed due to being weakened by eachother

[@markhalden3922]

I had the unbidden spawn in one of my recent games, first time getting a crisis event I could actually stand up to. While I was generally holding my own, playing whackomole with their anchors was not fun at all. Ended up cheating and giving myself and other empires all research and Max resources a number times and curbstomped everything with Max stack Max tech battleships.

[@ValensBellator]

I forgot how much I liked that scene, specifically when Captain America tries to hold back Thanos. I donno why but there’s just something so admirable about giving it your absolute all when defeat is a certainty. I guess that’s just sorta what life is in general?

[@kamieaston3016]

Me and my friend were playing all the way up the end game. Both of us had strong empires, and we waged war on each other regularly. Called a temporary truce when the War in Heaven began. Knowing we'd have to defend ourselves since we were literally the only two major powers left in the game. The Endgame crisis was taking usually long to spawn, but we were so focused on the fighting the awakened Empires we didn't have enough time to prepare for the Unbidden. At first we didn't really care too much, they spawned in-between the awakened Empires and started going to ham. My friend was testing my borders, and knowing him, he was going to let the crisis and two empires attack me before trying to conquer me so we ended up in another war. It was a fair stalemate, but I'm not going to lie I was losing the economy war. My friend was inevitably going to gain the upper hand as my resources got exhausted and he could easily replace his numbers. I distinctly remember the two awakened Empires going from powerful threats to minor powers in under a decade. In all the chaos, me and my friend were so focused on each other we once again forgot to pay attention to the other parts of the galaxy. Wasn't long before the Unbidden ended up on our borders. Honestly I was laughing the entire time my friends world's burned, but then I realized mine were too. It was pretty much crash and burn at that point, I was dwindled down to my core systems and my friend pretty much lost all of his fleets trying to fight off the Unbidden across his expansive territory. I was able to hold out in my core systems for quite a while, but the Unbidden drove a wedge between space once contested by me and my friend. Circling around and cutting me off from him, while simultaneously pinning him in. In a last ditch effort we combined our fleets to make a daring attack on the territory that separated us. Establishing our front lines once again was pretty much imperative. We succeeded to an extent, but the Unbidden at this point was half the size of the galaxy; having consumed the Awakened Empires. The next day we lost our main fleets and rage quit from the game. My friend knew that by the time we even got half of our fleets back, we'd have lost half of our territory. We would have been fighting a stalemate war against the Unbidden for a century if we continued.

[@KAngel32]

Boooo

[@Pan_Z]

"If I can't have the galaxy, no one can."

[@snipman8067]

For me, it was actually the prethoryn scourge. I had no fallen empires (turned them off) and they had fleets of almost 1 million fleet power per fleet, while my navy had half that with a couple of them. It didn't go well, had to use a mod that let me close the L gate to survive lol

[@postomnis6134]

The only time i encountered the unbidden they spawned right next to me. I thought the game was lost because I was hoarding resources instead of building my military, a habit I have yet to kick, when my ally came out of nowhere and started reclaiming my systems for me. The unbidden fled to fight the two others that had appeared and I had just unlocked my ascension perk. Picked Become the Crisis. I’m in the steps of completing it last we played, looking forward to the next play session

[@northernseeker1822]

The crisis spawn far away becomes impossible to defeat as the ai civilization hate you for trespassing.

[@baldwiniv5339]

rift opened up in my rivals empire, before the galactic council even voted on declaring it a crisis they were obliterated by like 5 200k+ fleets stationed there lmao.

[@SpectralFlames05]

“I used the crisis to destroy the crisis”

[@DuduDruidDotCom]

In my previous game with a friend, the Scourge spawned on my systems... So my massive fleet of FE Escorts turned them to dust. But a game before that, the Scourge wiped out half of the galaxy and I was like "Okay, this is too much to deal with, I am evacing the universe with my Horizon Needle, ta-ta!"

[@andresrivera6096]

If we can’t win, they won’t either.

[@sev1120]

When the determined exterminator, fanatical purifier and devouring swarm have to work together for once

[@canguist6004]

When the choice is to give up our home or destroy it there is no choice

[@NicktheLongman]

Wanda being Fanatic Purifiers is fitting considering Wandavision and Multiverse of Madness.

[@Earthless_Rock]

The best choice is just to run away, where crisis cannot reach you...

[@unendingessence4001]

All I could say god bless the crisis it literally solve my lag problem

[@wormybobcat3706]

The best part is how this crisis just walks it off anyway.

[@TheSpectralFX]

You can watch this meme in loop and it makes complete sense

[@trickedraptor]

My first ever game of stellaris, I thought things were going pretty well for my first time. Then these guys spawned at my homeworld.

[@unsocialchain]

I love that the unbidden have the most basic image for thair species it makes them creepy if anything

[@Rex4184]

Last time I had a crisis, I had already beat it by becoming a crisis. I fought the crisis and the rest of the galaxy at the same time. They lost.

[@jacobnida7475]

Robot uprising spawned one 500k and four 300k fleets, last time contingency I did had all base 1m fleets in system and three 500k fleets, spawned another 500k after awhile. 😂

[@anthonybuenzow9295]

me a technocracy with 25x strength crisis and max difficulty, I have soft shell tacoes, gets 3 vassalize requests as the end game shows up so I build my fleet and win a 3 front war to wipe the crisis

[@BowandSvent]

Ya know, I've never really had trouble with a crisis kicking my ass but I HAVE lost an entire galaxy to the Katzens from the gigastructures mod.

[@prostoisckolnik4730]

Playing on the complexity of the crisis x25 it looks like this.

[@nebulahawk5895]

I had unbidden invade during a war in heaven. Needless to say, I got screwed

[@Hari_Espenton]

That feeling when you turned on the advent of 3 crises at once on maximum difficulty and hid in the L system. *Necron mode enabled*

[@colin8696908]

one thing I've noticed about the crisis now is that if they end up near holy worlds or close to other fallen empire's they tend to get pretty heavily delimited.

[@keeganghost1553]

Had an empire open up a L Gate and lost almost all combat fleets to the Gray Tenpest before that year was out (prior to that I was cursing their name for opening it), so I grumbled and mustered my fleets to clean up their mess. I push them back and reclaim all their systems, I camp the L gate as a muster half my fleets then push through and wipe out the gray tempest. Empire decided they wanted close borders luckily I had 3 construction ships go through the L Gate before I finished them off. I owned and fortified the L Gate on our side and the one in the Gray Tempest how system. Fast forward 150 years or so that empire goes to war with me. I took half that empire as a vassal and cracked 1/4th of their habitable worlds, cracked 3 worlds of the only functional ally it had and procced to mass espionage and do smaller wars until I had them off the Imperial Council due to low diplomacy

[@Immerayon]

Artillery and Kinetic type X and T class weapons anybody?

[@zetarhythm3503]

Plasma guns in Pulsar systems and missiles/strike craft also help a ton

[@commandercritic9036]

This is a 25x crisis on the hardest difficulty for sure, no other way the Unbidden B**** slap a Fallen Empire like that.

[@55ziomal55]

Really reminds me of my last Stellaris game and one of the most crazy endgames I ever had. I had super early Unbidden (the fucking AI spawned them around year 2280 from an archaeology project which I had no idea it could happen prior to that), then Khan arrived (yes I had Unbidden before Khan even showed up), then one of the Fallen Empires awakened (not as Guardians) and meanwhile I rushed the level 5 Nemesis crisis before 2300. It was a complete pandemonium where everyone tries to murder each other. I probably wouldn't make it if I wasn't playing with Gigastructures (which are OP) and few other mods.

[@strangermethod1257]

Playing a game right now when I have the crisis engine and it spawned inside that exact system

[@theroguenetwork1083]

“A beginning and an End” But my Lord, our vassals! Me, the Unbidden right on my doorstep: “JUST…DO IIIIT!”

[@chickenman6308]

When the crisis brings back the galaxy to destroy it itself.

[@siegebreaker4120]

I love the idea of 'ascending into the shroud' but all that does to the unbidden is make their job easier since they already live in it

[@abeenr2]

They dont live in the shroud, they live in a place near it.

[@Asuroh]

was on 25x setting once, my fleet was about 700k total when unbidden spawned early... imagine my suprise when their normal fleets had 3 million power each

[@alexs-roberts5798]

Yeah they spawned in my last game and I didn't even have the fleet power to stop a single fleet in one go... then they managed to get into the heart of my gate system and gutted my infrastructure...

[@Daniel-jj7ff]

In my first time playing Stellaris I was trying to do a pacifist run and ended up actually staying democratic and pacifist (In fact all the empires in the galaxy were moral democracies) and when the crisis started (The Unbidden) my federation fleet was 3 times larger than the crisis one. I ended up crushing all their fleets in half a year.

[@reduxys4819]

Was playing a game with the gigastructures mod and enabled the Katzen Empire because they sounded interesting This is about how it went

[@elbias220]

Just ended a two player MP game with a friend of mine who just bought the game, got all the $20 DLCs just to have somewhat nice gameplay. first runs we were terrible, kept falling behind in tech and getting killed by Great Khans, or xenophobic advanced empires. We eventually got to a good game, by doing technocracy and materialist we were able to keep up properly with the ai, we made huge human empires, called ourselves the United Earth Government and The Commitee. We kept the Left and Top side of the galaxy in supreme peace, forming a federation, and invited these super advanced but small xenophile aliens. In 2310, absolute disaster struck us in the form of the scourge, at that point we were fighting a crisis nation who was wiping out the right side of the galaxy it was doomed from the get go they just spawned in the crisis empire and absorbed it, moved on to the middle and right side of the galaxy until 3 of us remained, Me, my friend, and the xenophile fallen empire who awakened. From 2310 to 2562 we fought a war of survival against the scourge, developing those late game ships and weapons we hadn't seen yet because we are noobs (Tachyon lance, Titans, Colossus, etc.) By 2420 we realized that conventional tactics were just outright not working, shields were useless, we made sure our fleets had high armor, and fitted everything with Gamma lasers and as much point defense as possible. The Titans and Colossus' would carry the war from the 2400's onwards, destroying a scourge fleet in battle, orbital bombardment would take too long as the Scourge literally owned 80% of the galaxy and we needed to result to neutron sweeping the infected worlds, us and the awakened fallen empire were able to preserve 90% of intelligent life, including the species that tried to ascend. Eventually, thanks to pulverizing the scourge fleets and obliterating their infested worlds, we pushed them out of the galaxy. Unfortunately there is a giant vacant space, where 8-10 other civilizations once stood, all valiant against the threat of the scourge to the bitter end, and their sacrifices weren't in vain.

[@jayzet8893]

Yeah, x25 crisis on 2400 feels like that

[@LoliPolice-bf7mw]

Then the one hive mind with infinite pops and resources makes a fleet

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

When you must destroy the Galaxy, to save the Universe