Stem Cell Therapy As a Potential Treatment for Long Covid

Solve M.E. hosted a webinar with the Hope Biosciences Research Foundation (HBRF), which has conducted three FDA-authorized studies in mesenchymal cell therapy for COVID-19 prevention and treatment, and two studies in Long Covid.
Hear Solve President Oved Amitay and HBRF founder Donna Chang deliver a comprehensive discussion of findings and more information about a Long Covid study that is currently enrolling, as well as the potential for future studies in ME/CFS.

[@KittenCasserole]

Phenomenal research 👏🏻 So excited to hear the outcome of this study. I would be very excited to see a ME/CFS study in the future

[@jillyclay1402]

I hope an ME/CFS study will come to fruition! If I lived in the Texas area I would participate for sure. Please encourage a study specific to ME/CFS.

[@vvondogmai8596]

I second that !!

[@KidCity1985]

I was wondering about this

[@Elysian777]

Haven't they already tried stem cell therapy on ME patients with mixed results?

[@gogo_libertadcarajo]

is there any studies on MSE and Long Covid/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?

[@sneakypress]

Long covid is ME/ CFS. If you have this (these) illness, you have been poisoned with pharmaceutical medications (drugs).

[@MISSjmaec]

Do we have an outcome of the study now?

[@terriealabama7612]

I have had one infusion of stem cells and am sick as ever, guys. I think a series of infusions would be needed to feel any difference.

[@MP-uo6qd]

You had an infusion from this programme here?

[@samimaaroufi4841]

I know someone who's had sten cells treatment with no results and than had another one at another clinic in Mexico and he life changed for good. She is appearing on KZbin as she went on US news.

[@marketrader1972]

Do you know what clinic she worked with in Mexico? What is her KZbin channel?@@samimaaroufi4841

[@Yirmeyahu]

Awesome video @hopebioorg. I do have one question though. If allogeneic stem cells are looking to be safe what is the added benefit of banking our own stem cells? Also when do you expect to be recruiting for the next autologous study?

[@hopebioorg]

Hello! We apologize for the delayed reply. At the moment, we are studying the use of mesenchymal stem cells in limited quantities to treat various conditions/injuries. In the future, we imagine that cells could be used repeatedly for various indications and therefore, for long term, repeated use, using your own cells makes sense to ensure safety. We will be waiting for results from our allogeneic study to determine the next study design.

[@dbulat]

שלום רב עובד, האם ידוע לך אם הטיפול בתאי גזע עוזר? שמעתי מכמה מקורות שהטיפול הספציפי הנ״ל יכול לסייע מאוד. אשמח לדבר עם גברת דונה צ׳אנג ועמך - אני סובל מאוד כבר שנתיים מהלונגקוביד

[@simonthompson4798]

For the second study (the current one with 80 people) are you still using 200million cells per treatment?

[@nbalci1]

yes, they do, based on their clinical trial application. 200m dose, 4 injections over 10 weeks, adipose derived mesenchymal stem cells.

[@stefanallard3084]

How long for stem cells to work when given IV for long covid?

[@rickcantu6241]

Are there any countries that have stem cell treatments?

[@CarlosFernandez-nm5ng]

Yeah … Germany .. And LatAm (Mexico, Panama, Colombia). I plan on going to Germany in feb 2024. It’s about $20k but why else do we work. And it’s a small price to pay , for a shot at being back to normal. I was triathlete before COVID , I truly honestly felt invincible.. never got sick , had more energy than anyone I knew, even at 36. Now 38 and two years later I’m a bum. I have fibrosis / scarring of lungs according to a MRI at Mayo. Subsequently diagnosed with OSA. Doc said I had OSA my whole life. Not a chance this is true. I can exactly remember the first time I felt short on breath during sleep. One week after my 2nd COVID , December 2021. I bet , oh I really bet , those people with sleep disturbances following COVID are actually having hypoxia events , so sleep apnea. It’s not actually OSA .. it’s the fibrosis that brings down my normal Daytime o2 levels to about 95-96. Fully awake Supine position I’m low 90s .. at sleep it drops .. I know bc I record the finger o2 meter with my phone.. sometimes I move or the thing comes off .. it’s not sleep disturbances it’s not even OSA … it’s simply an already low o2 level dropping even more when body is at rest / sleep. I’ve been an a boxer and multi discipline athlete my whole life. I knew my body so when a doc tells me you had this your whole life … I knew then and there .. I’ve gotta take this into my own hands. Now , I’m questioning my entire career in investment banking. I’m really enjoying all the research. I almost went medical while in college but needed something with more adrenaline and action. I’ve become obsessed and won’t ever quit till I cure myself. Fantastic webex !! I really enjoyed the doctor here .. great presentation and absolutely informative. If y’all need a Guinea pig - I’m game. Already part of a Mayo Clinic study. Also - I’ve discovered PEM (post exertional malice) after COVID. But hacked that ..red meat. 100 percent red meat immediately before a workout. For me anyway prevents PEMs .. don’t know the science behind it but I know I would crash after a simple three mile run .. one day I happen to eat a NY strip right before a workout and nothing. I’ve tested with other foods and nothing works except red meat. Again , I ran 13 miles on the daily before COVID on basically empty and was fine. Post COVID , a mile had me whacked out. On behalf of all us long haulers who knew nothing about science before. Thank you !! I will follow your studies.

[@MP-uo6qd]

try Procrit. Someone with ME/CFS felt a lot better on it but he had to stop when his blood count went over the top.@@CarlosFernandez-nm5ng

[@Dachopper_]

@@CarlosFernandez-nm5ngdid you end up doing this? Are you able to tell me where in Germany this is offered? Thank you 🙏🏼

[@ruthcastellanos70]

How many stem cells are given each time? I may have missed that but didn’t hear it

[@samhouston1483]

200M

[@hopebioorg]

Hello, Ruth. The dosage is 200 million stem cells per infusion.

[@KardingLatoy-bc9ss]

​@@hopebioorghow much stem cell

[@georgewaker6906]

Does this really work and are you using healthy tissue

[@nbalci1]

200m dose, 4 injections over 10 weeks, adipose derived mesenchymal stem cells.

[@johnchase2148]

It all depends on the mitochondria that our mother gave us to get the food and all things to make it happen , do not mess with what is good for you. Energy is not easy to make without a team. Do not say germ or do stress.

[@kimberlyturnbull4620]

I thought it was illegal to propagate/proliferate stem cells in the USA? Isn't this the exact reason many people go out of the country?

[@rickjondo1343]

You are correct. This just another one of those for profit companies

[@CarlosFernandez-nm5ng]

Exactly why. They can give you more stem cells in other countries. I may discredit myself here but even joe Rogan talks about .. that’s more for sport injuries but conceptually makes sense. There’s a pro base ball player who has COPD and did stem cells.. came back to states and baffled doctors. Documented MRIs showed improvement that is a typical with such diagnosis. Docs here are beholden to malpractice suits so they have to be conservative .. plus aren’t typically trained in this niche area or ethical questions .. like fetal MSCs . Feel like I’m gonna be patch Adams soon

[@rickjondo1343]

This therapy is going to be too expensive to lift off the ground. Pretty sure insurance is not going to cover it also. It's going to be another one of those pipe dream treatments that will just benefit patients who have money. For us ordinary folk suffering, move along