Step Into Paris & the Louvre in 8K VR180 | See Da Vinci's Masterpiece in 3D on Vision Pro & Quest 3

[@hughhou]

KZbin is very compressed, even in 8K 60fps. Download the MV-HEVC version and watch it with SpatialGen / Kandao XR / Moonplayer / Skybox on Apple Vision Pro: bit.ly/3X1O58z 👈 It is a night and day difference in quality :)

[@samirsvirtualworld]

Can anyone post their 360 videos on the oculus experiences url like you have in the link above? I post 360 videos on youtube but wasn't sure if i could post there also.

[@hughhou]

Yes you could. They require higher quality upload tho. I will make a tutorial soon :)

[@陈一峰-y1r]

which camera and lens?

[@kylekaiser9525]

Did you upload your 8k 60 fps file in H.264, H.265, or pro ress to youtube?

[@VedanshDuggu]

​@❤g J 😊samirsvirtualworld

[@licemeat6041]

I'm an art teacher from the US that will likely never get to travel to this museum. I've studied these artists for years. Thank you for letting me experience this in this way!

[@hughhou]

We are so glad! This is also the first episode of the series. We then travel to Rome, Florence and most of the famous museum to capture artworks in spatial memory. We do our best to keep it as real as it look with the camera tech. But Vision Pro is probably the only device right now look exactly like reality. And we hope it become more affordable so schools can use it for kids to enjoy.

[@RajkumarKushvaha-b4i]

@@hughhou my;;; mm*ko

[@keeleyturner]

I had a blast putting this video together and digging into all these incredible works of art and the artists behind them. I'm a history nerd, and I’m excited to share that passion with you!

[@vrdevsariya4109]

Z,

[@davidknightx]

This was easily on my top 10 list of best VR180 3D videos and I've watched a LOT of VR videos. What sets it apart is the detailed snap shots of the paintings. You can see the textures in the canvas this way. I say this should be the new standard for any other content creator who does these types of videos. Anytime artwork of any kind is focused on, there should be a photo snap shot like this!

[@hughhou]

Awww thank you thank you!!

[@baballe]

Ça donne des frissons... 😂🎉

[@gehalumix]

Thank you for taking us on your Louvre tour. I watched it on the Quest 2 and enjoyed it (although only on the KZbin app). The little bits of information about the artworks were very interesting, the presentation very sympathetic. The integration of the still photos also made the whole thing more interesting. It's a shame that 180VR videos are still a niche offering. All the more reason for me to respect you for taking on what must have been a very technically complex production, which certainly represents what is currently technically feasible, in order to give the small community of VR fans this experience. Sometimes I wish we were already 10 years ahead in terms of technology, could easily produce high-resolution 180VR videos and had more comfortable VR glasses with a larger field of vision. But on the other hand, it's exciting to see how the technical development is (slowly) progressing.

[@hughhou]

Awww thank you for the nice comment and watch the piece! As long as the community is watching, our hardwork is worth it. Have a wonderful day!

[@davidknightx]

You know what this feels like to me? It feels like the very first time internet speeds were fast enough to handle streaming video. Before KZbin, the net was a treasure trove of media from random people from all over the globe. It was an exciting time in technology, just like it is again. I mean, I was never going to be able to afford to visit the Louvre. Now I know what it's like to stand in the wing of the museum that holds the Mona Lisa.

[@captteemo9133]

Uhh that photo taking effect to insert high quality images without people feeling video got stuck is a great idea! Well played! :)

[@hughhou]

Glad you spot the details and technique here lol.

[@alexgalvez8762]

This was so awesome to work on! Seeing the shots during the edit made me feel like I was right there with them!

[@hughhou]

Amazing editing! Thank you for all the hardworks

[@lixinzhao6987]

很漂亮！我们喜欢！用3D技术拍摄真很好看！加油！❤

[@MikeVR180]

Nice video! Looks great! Keeley's great! :)

[@hughhou]

Thanks so much!

[@jaykeni]

Hi Hugh, big fan and loved this video! Keeley was great too! Curious how you got such steady footage on the R5c without a tripod -- one comment said you couldn't bring one in, so were you able to bring in the gimbal? Also curious what ISO, aperture and shutter speeds you were using to get the indoor Louvre shots -- my mark ii arrives tomorrow and I want to be ready to take some good indoor light footage!

[@hughhou]

This is 100% handheld with EOS VR Utility 14.10 enhanced stabilization. You def see my hand shaking and moving all over the place - but it does smooth out the movement with the improved stabilization mode. I don't recommend handheld btw. But we have no choice on this series as France is not allow to use tripod - so we do not use any support system or gimbal - just old school hand held and fix it in post lol.

[@hmhhou6464]

You are amazing ,Good job!

[@philosophicalmixedmedia]

This insightful observation highlights the evolving landscape of media. While 3D experiences may not seamlessly integrate with traditional voice-driven narratives, they offer an exciting avenue to explore innovative storytelling techniques. The role of the narrator and voice-over within immersive 3D environments will undoubtedly be shaped by audience reception, emphasizing the dynamic relationship between creators and consumers in the ever-changing media landscape.

[@hughhou]

Really well said. We are still exploring and collecting everyone feedback and get better. And your feedback certain help us a lot!

[@jeromelozano]

Heureux de voir que vous aimez notre pays 🇫🇷😉

[@hughhou]

Thank you thank you!!!!

[@keeleyturner]

J'aime la France!

[@AntonBarcelona]

AMAZING! Thank you for static photos of paintings! They are so good! =)

[@hughhou]

Glad you like them! Trying something different this time. Risky to try new technique lol.

[@johnhuang7246]

Amazing! I love the sceneries and the views

[@hughhou]

So glad you do!!

[@captteemo9133]

@hughhou Official Topaz Statement for upscaling vs upframing: With that being said, I would recommend shoot at 8k and then use the Frame Interpolation model to increase the frame rate to 60fps. This will reduce the need for the AI models to upscale the footage which could lead to some distortions based on the subject matter in the video and how those subjects move through the frame. However, it would be worth running a few tests with short clips shot both in 8k and 6k and run both workflows to see how your system handles them and which produces more ideal results. The same applies for going to 8k at 120fps and keep in mind that the larger the resolution and the higher the frame rate the longer the processing time will be. So: Upframe low framerate high res for quality and upscale fast framerate low res for render speed. (when it comes to 360)

[@hughhou]

The official statement is always does NOT match what has been tested and how the software work lol. Look at this video especially in low light, upframe create crazy artifacts. This is shot at 8K 30fps and AI to 60fps. Basically Topaz upframe suck! It does not do motion estimation correctly. I am going back to my professional workflow for upframing instead of using Topaz. Topaz is only good on upscale not upframe in my honest opinion.

[@christianlamb]

Saw this on quest 3 on meta tv. Most of the shots were incredible. The photos were truly breathtaking. I'm wondering what is causing the motion blur though? Is a higher frame rate needed? A better headset?

[@hughhou]

It’s on purpose to add those blur in some of the indoor shot. I am playing with style but I guess it does not translate well in VR. Watch my next one here, the blur is gone: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHu4eJiXgal0aacsi=Fnv6XiRMTPQcoKyz

[@christianlamb]

@@hughhou I'll check this out tonight. I see this motion blur in other media though especially live sports in VR on quest 3. Can't watch sporting events in vr 180 due to blur. Wondering what the problem is there and what's the fix?

[@beckyhuang3245]

This looks amazing! I would love to go someday

[@hughhou]

You should and def avoid now as Olympics traffic is no joke.

[@captteemo9133]

Thank you very much! We haven't had the time to visit. How did you got film permissions? I wanted to capture it with my Pro 2 ^^ just captured 30min walking outside :D

[@hughhou]

Thank you!!

[@cosmic4037]

Lucky lady, time warp comes to mind.

[@darrco973]

Très belle vidéo du beau travail bravo. Une petite question sûre davinci resolve 19 studio a-t-on encore besoin de plug in comme KartaVR ??

[@hughhou]

Merci - and Yes, you still need kartavr for resolve 19. Resolve 19 is just the base software, KartaVR package is what make all those 360 and VR180 features possible. I will update you when USRA Immersive release that will come with some update on Resolve 19 but it won't happen till end of the year.

[@ronnyprivat]

Thanks for this content, one of the few channels that offer VR videos in this quality. The R5M2 is a great camera, unfortunately not in my price range. As I have seen, the iPhone from version 15 onwards can also record 3D videos. Have you made videos on your channel with the iPhone or could you make one or two to see if it's worth it? Otherwise, I have made 3D films with two Sony cameras, side by side.

[@hughhou]

Yes serval - search spatial video on this channels. iPhone called Spatial Video not 3D video (a branding thing). Here is one talking about it with the latest iPhone 16 Pro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ-ulGOva7WlaMksi=egGCuqMqew0Opo-f

[@marceltop7683]

Awesome vids. Not an art guy, but hey i´m learning stuff here 🤣

[@hughhou]

Glad to hear it!

[@TamleughPark]

Can i watch the same way on quest 2? So Hugh, how much more amazing is the Apple vision compared to the Q3? So sad that not all of us can justify the expense, especially at Aussie dollar prices!

[@hughhou]

On Quest TV is 100% FREE you can watch it. Quest 2 and Quest 3 is almost the same quality - www.oculus.com/experiences/media/1861282854283247/ (7K Meta streaming). But since Meta does not compress the video like KZbin, so it is still better than KZbin VR even technically KZbin VR server higher quality in 8K. (bitrate Meta is higher). Vision Pro is better looking - like a lot. But we are streaming 200Mb/s almost uncompressed 8K 60fps on Vision Pro b/c of the hardware can handle it. That file is over 10G in size so ... No you don't need Vision Pro to enjoy this piece. We do mass distribution on Meta and KZbin / PCVR first. Then has a version for Vision Pro just in case anyone has it.

[@y0utube5uxx]

I was always under the impression that Da Vinci's masterpiece is called Resolve ;)

[@hughhou]

Lol!!

[@koosswart112]

Hi Hugh. I appreciate your dedication and your content. With this video i see terrible distortion visible on the portrait frames - in many / most cases they look wavy (not straight) when viewed on the quest 3, to the point that i find it distracting. Is this due to the compression or is it just an inescapable fact when doing the dual fisheye vr180 using the canon lens? Which lens / camera was it? I even see it on the photographs

[@hughhou]

Even on Quest 3 on Quest TV? Try this link as KZbin distorted stuffs: www.oculus.com/experiences/media/1861282854283247/

[@koosswart112]

@@hughhou thanks, that sorted it out! I'm very eager to get the dual fisheye plus r5 mark ii, and but the distortions gave me serious pause. Glad to see it is only youtube messing it up

[@chanben520]

Is it allowed to use X4 and selfie stick with tripod in Lourve? I will go visit there next month.

[@hughhou]

No it is not allow. The X4 shot is OUTSIDE of the Lourve. I did not use any selfie stick or tripod.

[@stillsandvideo]

Wonderful post Hugh. Love the color grading, storyline, footage, etc. I hope you'll be doing a BTS on the Louvre. What camera(s) and lenses did you use?

[@hughhou]

Yes I will! It is coming up :)

[@xavier02m]

This is awesome, what camera are you using to record this?

[@hughhou]

This is still Canon R5 C here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4HNZ5Kroc6Ggq8

[@captteemo9133]

What do you use for 360 upframing and for 360 upscaling as software? I thought topaz in Davinci so it is stitchline aware? Please tell me what tool you use for what purpose 🙈

[@hughhou]

We use a combination of tool. Twixtor from re:vision FX or Boris FX is what we used. They both have AI upframe and it is built into the NLE - not third format. We have not make a tutorial yet but I really should. Shhhh...

[@captteemo9133]

What are the max settings you recommend for 3603D60fps and 3602D60fps export on Quest 3 for local playback? AV1 or H265? What bitrate for 3D and which for 2D?

[@hughhou]

HEVC, 80Mbps, 5760 x 5760

[@captteemo9133]

@@hughhou Thank you! :) And for 2D?

[@saschapeischl4690]

That was really very interesting, thank you for taking me to the Louvre. You explained everything really well, you could think you studied art history. I love these VR videos especially from museums when you can see the work of art up close and you always explain it very well. But I don't understand why people are actually allowed to take photos in the Louvre? and there are over 30,000 other exhibits stored in the basement of the Louvre. In principle, you could open a second museum, right? Greetings from Germany 😄and keep it up guys👌👍more vids from this 😃and I don't like vision pro at all because I'm not a millionaire😢

[@hughhou]

Thank you! The Meta Quest on KZbin VR now has 8K 60fps - you don't need Vision Pro to see this. But Vision Pro look a lot better for artwork upclose those. You do see the different in quality. If detail of art matter.

[@abrahamphilip6439]

What Gnostic Di Vinci himself did not know that his last supper painting was the not the last supper, but sans it, in truth is the projection of the MARRIAGE FEAST OF THE LAMB SURROUNDING Our Lord and Our Lady are the beloved first fruits of the Lamb , to Joels Prophecy of the Army of God (of whom I be a witness) in the latter rain of the Spirit,

[@OP360communication]

Hi, I really appreciate your work 👍👍👍! Tell me just one thing : why a lot of straight lines (paintings framings, ceiling, ...) are not, for example @10:00

[@hughhou]

That is due to KZbin projection the video in a sphere that is not prefect. If you want this film in Apple Vision Pro (with out local download link) or on Meta Quest TV directly, this problem won't show. It is one of the downsize of KZbin VR that never get fixed.

[@OP360communication]

@@hughhou so VR180 will never be good on KZbin ? Too bad.... I will watch it on my quest !

[@hughhou]

Yes for now. We always release our content on Quest TV for the highest quality - so highly recommand to subscribe to us on Quest TV as well to watch it there. KZbin is more for promotional purpose as we have massive following here.

[@OnyxLee]

Thanks for the great experience. Btw, did you run into any upload issues with KZbin?

[@hughhou]

Not that I know off. It took a while to get to 8K60S on KZbin VR app within Meta Quest 3 - but everything else is pretty smooth and standard. Not thing out of the ordinary. Are you having an issue?

[@OnyxLee]

@@hughhou thank you, Hugh. Yeah, lots of people including me got this error "processing abandoned" from KZbin. We believe the biggest suspect might be premiere's hardware acceleration rendering. When it's set up use software encoding, this issue is gone. If you notice something similar, please let us know. 🙏

[@hughhou]

Oh I don't use Premiere for render that can be why. I will make a tutorial to break down my high quality lighting fast rendering workflow soon :)

[@OnyxLee]

@@hughhou thanks, Hugh, look forward to it.

[@mailman166]

Hey @hughhou if the Canon Eos system video's quality is say 9/10, how much would you rate the 180 or 360 from the new Kandao camera?

[@hughhou]

Errrr... Qoocam 3 Ultra are still a conusmer camera and I don't really shoot with an consumer camera lol. So I will say 5/10? I shoot with a Titan which is 8/10 (but then it is $15000 at cost)

[@captteemo9133]

Could you tell me a timestamp and short description where Topaz messed up the upframing? Can't find it tbh (on mobile currently)

[@hughhou]

You only see it in Vision Pro in 8K 60fps - everything else compressed the mistake away. Including Meta Quest 3 in 7K.

[@captteemo9133]

@@hughhou I have an 144Hz 4k monitor, should be enough to see it in the original version. Are you sure this is not just an KZbin App issue?

[@dtz1000]

I saw this video on the Quest 3 and there is something wrong with it because it gave me motion sickness. Other videos haven't done that. I think its because the camera was not totally still and vibrated at times. I am very sensitive to motion sickness though.

[@hughhou]

Yes, I am hand helding the camera. I can’t use gimbal in Paris.

[@darkexpose5153]

I felt that video quality is not good. Maybe because it is my 1st time experiencing that kind of videography.

[@hughhou]

Have you watch it inside Meta Quest TV: www.oculus.com/experiences/media/1861282854283247/ or better download the source file with Apple Vision Pro? KZbin compressed too much on 8K media.

[@darkexpose5153]

@@hughhou now it looks amazing 🤩. Much thanks 👍🏻

[@LpPandey-ig2yf]

I'm Indian how possible visit Paris please suggest ME thanks

[@hughhou]

Do you have Meta Quest VR headset, Apple Vision Pro or PCVR headset? The simplest way is to watch it with KZbin VR on a VR headset then you can see 3D 180 - feel like you are there!

[@whyrureadingbro3265]

👍

[@HolzmannMedia]

Moonplayer wan‘t work in Vision OS 2 Beta 6

[@hughhou]

It is working for me I just test it. BTW, use SpatialGen on this one as it is free and MV-HEVC has better quality.

[@HolzmannMedia]

@@hughhou - may be there are bugs in the localised version of the OS 2. SpatialGen wan‘t open files as aspected.

[@captteemo9133]

@hughhou response here since you don't get notifications you said once: What is your professional workflow? Capture 5.7k60 and upscale with Topaz? What Ai tool do you recommend for upframing 3603D?

[@hughhou]

I don't use Topaz for 360 btw - it create seamline in 3D. Does that work for you? I use other method that is seam aware.

[@carolynschwalm4512]

I watched this in my VR headset. The female kept getting so close to the camera and would sometimes startle you because she would be in your face. Definitely in one’s personal space, not an enjoyable experience