Stephan Sterns Police Interviews | Madeline Soto Case

[@GrizzlyTrueCrime]

00:00:00 Intro 00:04:35 Mr. Grizzly snark 00:05:48 First police Interview, Feb 27th, 2024 starts 00:11:40 He calls his parents old and deaf 00:17:22 Stephan forgets about Jenn's bloodwork appointment 00:23:20 "crushes" and singing? 00:29:15 Could Jenn have been sleeping in the guest room? 00:40:20 Forgetting his phone? 00:48:45 Feb 27th later (2nd) interview with Stephan Sterns 00:53:50 What he wants everyone to believe Maddie's LAST WORDS were! 01:07:22 "I believe she was here" (about Jenn) 01:21:14 Wasn't "mapsing it" (did he forget that he supposedly didn't have his phone?) 01:26:40 He talks about her laptop and backpack 01:32:05 Writing on Jenn's side table matches writing in the notebook 01:44:50 Why make such early plans then? 01:52:15 "like to come back in through the back gate" 02:01:10 Sister Act? 02:01:39 Why was he freaking out on Saturday? 02:10:30 How did he get Maddie out of the house and into the car? 02:15:15 Feb 28th 2024 Police interview (3rd interview) 02:17:50 Dad's former double life with "Pooh" 02:22:08 His timeline is getting busted 02:39:45 Taking Jenn's car to cruise? 02:50:25 Blood pressure meds? 02:58:35 Debrief and Outro FULL CASE PLAYLIST: The police interview we listened to together 3 months ago: kzbin.info2QbOjy3OdZI?si=rb3KzZPXevrpbNlb

[@carik109]

Dang G… You work hard to organize all your research for us! Thank you 🎉

[@luv2luv720]

I can't wait to see your timeline! Thank you so much for all your hard work 💜

[@MariePommer]

SS is Disgusting

[@Katie-cs2hn]

You are Awesome!🎊

[@XclusivvMatii]

you are so thorough and respectful at the same time, you are a angel and i just know every case you have covered the victims are forever grateful and watching over you and yours. you’re protected G❤ thank you again for caring enough to cover these type of things with grace and respect 🫡 .✊🏽

[@monicapatton1405]

The female officer is not having it. She can barely be civil. Her spidey senses started going off in the first interview.

[@athenavan2242]

I love her approach and attitude! She is 100%

[@robinrountree8415]

She gave zero damns for his excuses trying to keep his phone. Shut him down quick.

[@anitagendler3812]

Hi G! Catching the replay tonight! I taught cello all afternoon! LOL! Thank you so much for this update! Such a tragic case! 😢😢

[@odinsdottir3898]

Replay crew❤

[@Perky_Panda]

This LE team was sharp on this case! Props to all of them.

[@danielafuentes9656]

I can’t believe that people actually complain about the commentary, I love it! 🎉❤❤❤

[@ssmith364]

I enjoy G’s commentary (her background info/her view points) BUT It gets to be too much when G decides to read every other comment…🙄

[@danielafuentes9656]

@@ssmith364 I feel like I enjoy it bc it feels like I’m engaging in a convo with multiple friends, but she does post only the audio files which i think is awesome

[@June-tb4vi]

This should be a eye opener to all parents who do not have custody.... Stay in the childs lives no matter if the other parent doesn't encourage it! A call or a video chat once every few months is not enough!! A visit once a year isnt enough!!! Not enough by far!!! If you remarry and have more children it is important you put more into the one who lives apart!! A girl epically needs their father!!! It is up to you to encourage the bond...you!!!

[@nickieknows]

This needs to be upvoted.

[@rosemariefritchman5288]

My 11yr old has talked to her Dad for 2 months! He doesn't even call or text her

[@rosemariefritchman5288]

Meant hasn't

[@imamodel91]

Absolutely correct!!! As a single mom myself with a in and out ex husband.. I still go out my way to make sure my ex is in the loop

[@_fiberjunkie]

Unless he's like Harmony Montgomery's dad... then just let the foster family keep her. 💔

[@MommaGriffin1]

Does this monster make anyone else feel physically sick?!?!!! 🤢

[@jalexander4575]

There's something so deeply unsettling and creepy about his eyes and face...just pitch black...

[@TheSkatersmum]

Yes

[@Green2332-z5k]

His face, his voice, everything about him makes me sick.

[@mistyfrasik8742]

Absolutely!!!! Especially seeing he’s soggy pail body my god I feel so bad for that baby

[@karenlynch5684]

Absolutely ill. His voice makes me want to vomit.

[@gracechatwood3563]

I am a survivor of SA when I was a kid. They threatened you. As you get a little older you are told no one is going to believe. Then you are told you are crazy. By the time you are of age to fight back, you go to law enforcement only to find out the statues if limitations has run out. You feel hopeless and helpless. I don’t think there should be a statute of limitations in SCA.

[@hon3ybuds]

THIS!

[@DorisWebber-bo2mq]

I agree 100% by the time I was able to confront my abuser I was unable to legally do anything because of time limitations

[@PamelaLeftwich]

😢AGREE 100%!

[@cosmicshy637]

That is so true. I hear you. 🫂 😢

[@June-tb4vi]

SS's father said Maddie called him and was very nervous and agitated after the call. I wonder if she told him she was going to tell....he told his parents she called to invite him over for her party but I think that was a lie!!!

[@sharlacobbkelley]

Oh My!!! 😢😢 out of the mouths of babes. The video literally JUST started, and I'm ALREADY bawling like a baby. The way the children were talking about Maddie, and how they're wanting JUSTICE for her. That one lil boy was very articulate & spoke so elegant!!! IT ABSOLUTELY JUST MELTED MY HEART!!! Thanks for sharing!! Okay.....gonna push play and finish watching the video ❤❤❤❤

[@Grizzly-Cat]

Replay crew to catch up! Thank you, Gisela! ❤

[@joannanieuwburg9]

Me too Grizzly Cat 🐈 🫶

[@natalietusznio3831]

Me too! Missed the live but can’t wait to catch up ❤

[@GrizzlyTrueCrime]

Thank YOU for all the beautiful photos you've found and edited of Maddie! And for all the help 😍

[@Grizzly-Cat]

@@GrizzlyTrueCrime 😻❤️🤗

[@Nicky_Be]

Thank you Gisela ❤ Anyone else notice how he often tries to insert rehearsed sounding narrative but the officers cut him off with the next question. A couple of times it got really forced and he kept repeating the same bit like he HAD to make sure he said it.

[@catasrophieGrrl]

I have two children, one older than Maddie, and one Maddie's age. And if one of my children didn't come home from school and then the cops told me "You can't come in the house because VIOLENT CRIMES UNIT is coming tonight." I would panic! I would already be beyond panic before that point. But hearing that would send me over the damn edge. Like, what do you mean Violent Crimes Unit?! You think there has been a violent crime with m child?! I cannot with these people, Jenn, Stephan, his parents - and their attitude to this darling missing girl. Before and after she was found. It's sickening.

[@debbiecollins8707]

oh i know me too!!!

[@StarkJerk]

Well you must be a present, decent parent. Jen if nothing else is the laziest, most negligent parent.

[@Ms.CottonCandy_56]

His parents are throwing him under the bus, as they should

[@jessiev2265]

Local here,, following this case from the beginning. You are giving Maddie justice!! Keep up the good work.

[@prissypacheco2860]

Amazing video! You put it all together in chronological order for us! Look at you Miss Professional ❤❤❤ keep up the great work. We appreciate it 100%. ❤❤❤

[@mercedeselayda8230]

Like Stephen’s Father Said, “If His Mouth Is Moving, He Is Lying”.

[@Mammak05]

I kinda think he learned some things from his dad. I'm why, I get this feeling there was a reason he was the only person with storage key & why the wife had never been there.

[@sheilaconcitis8385]

The parents from what I learned were not good at being parents. They raised this fool

[@lilchiwahmama]

I hate it when he says she was happy or a “good girl” or mentions how forgetful she is. It is really disgusting. This guy is such a pig. Justice for Maddie!! 💔💔

[@simplymarbelous]

SOOOO cringy…yechhh!

[@tammyhotchkiss9165]

​@@49ersfan62Her homework or lunch maybe but NEVER a phone these days. 🤦🤷

[@ServalanFan]

@@49ersfan62Even if she did what an amazing coincidence that Stefan did on the one day that Maddie did. Then Stefan returned home and then did he pick up his phone?

[@techwithbec]

@@lilchiwahmama so triggered when I hear him say "good girl"

[@MountainmommaWV3]

He’s is sickening

[@GRENDEL_1620]

G, you’re an absolute warrior! I’ve been on your account all weekend since you dropped Jen’s interviews. Thank you sooooo much for all your hard work, and putting everything together for us all. You go above and beyond!! ❤️

[@RuthHon-g9n]

Good girl Maddy scratching him ,your speaking from the dead and we hear you sweetheart we hear you !!!

[@My-22-Cents]

I remember, years ago, watching an interview with a survivor of a SA attack. She said she scratched the sh!t out of him fighting, so if she was murdered and they found her body, they would have his DNA under her fingernails. That always stuck in my head and I thought, what a way of thinking at a time like that. You can clearly see one looks like a little fingernail mark. She fought. So heartbreaking 💔

[@deniseknicely783]

@@RuthHon-g9n they need to get DNA from her fingernails. They already have him as her killer but it will help to know how she fought for her life.

[@loveandlight4440]

OMG yes I think you are right. 😢 also, I think i might remember seeing a woman saying that in a program that I watched also. And it stuck with me. ​@My-22-Cents

[@alisonfowler8193]

Your dedication to the cases you cover is truly a labor of Love G 💕 Appreciate all your work. Rest in peace sweet Madeline 💙🕊️💙 Rewatch crew

[@marygoff3332]

The only time Stephan seems emotionally disturbed & upset is when he talks about Maddie having crushes at school. Very interesting...

[@melsafken764]

"crying" wasn't he? Grrr 👿

[@tracyafig]

Boom! Motive. "If I can't have you, no one else can." The object of his obsession.

[@GrizzlyTrueCrime]

Yes!!

[@tainoaquarian]

And it was all FOR SHOW!!! He brought it up to sound, HUMAN- ‘like a dad. When Really… he was ENRAGED! He saw her vibrant, DOing well out there in the world; Without Him. Either Jenn used M’s phone to ask if he’s coming… or she had to know to mentally, & sadly prepare. Listen: maybe she told him over the phone, Not To Come to the 13th birthday party (if she wanted to chill without fear, with girls AND *possible boys) & feel grown up. He “had” to retaliate (since he couldn’t ’reset her on his grooming program. He did worse than he ever did to get back at her 😢 & ofc went that far/ covered it all up; lifetime of shame- but Not regret because: Premeditated.

[@tainoaquarian]

SO disgusting to hear him Dare speak on PMS 🤢

[@tootsingtonfabulucy1050]

Being Australian, I fundamentally don't believe in the death penalty however for this guy - hes gotta go!

[@us4damons]

If it was YOUR daughter....

[@deborahhenderson149]

Very wise words from those young kids at the beginning of your show Gisella. Yes, we do need justice indeed.

[@anned.4250]

I don't want to watch the other ones, without commentary. I soooo enjoy it ❤

[@randytolen9531]

I've become "hooked" on Ms. Grizzly's coverage of this case over the past several days....evenings on my patio transfixed by the audio and commentary. Really feels like part of a community, just listening. Big time talent...I hope we see you/she/her/Grizzly more and more on Vinnie's airwaves on CTV. Tremendous insight.....here I go again, 3 more hours!!!

[@GrizzlyTrueCrime]

[@rookiecookchick]

🙏

[@CaseyRhyneXoXo]

Same!!!

[@ShakerMaker1980]

Me too! I’m obsessed with this case. I truly feel if Jen doesn’t get arrested & serious prison time there won’t be justice for beautiful Maddie. Hopefully Florida doesn’t mess around & Sterns gets the DP & Jen gets serious time.

[@randytolen9531]

@@ShakerMaker1980 I totally agree w/you...and I think that's what's going to happen. I cannot imagine Jen not being charged...if even for the simple neglect of a child that put her directly in the hands of that predator. It's clear she knew far more about what was going on, which makes her an accomplice on some level. That beautiful young girl suffered for years, and nobody around her stepped in. I personally find the interviews with the school staff to be pathetic as well-when a child tells you there is a weird guy at home bothering her you have a responsibility to question that further, even to the point of finding a way to ask her if the guy was harming her.

[@slyphwing]

I love when the cops are pressing him about his fabricated timeline! You care hear him getting scared.

[@itchysheets1222]

I think Stephan was the one making “end of life plans” for his parents.

[@catiryan2119]

1000%. The way they were talking about him driving back to their house in the middle of the night was so ominous, you could tell that they were legitimately afraid of him.

[@hopeg8031]

My parents are in their 70s and are getting their wills in order and making end of life plans. It’s what responsible people do who don’t want their loved ones to stress about decisions when the time comes. They probably wanted to make sure everything was planned out cuz they knew Stephan sure as heck wouldn’t be able to take care of it when they were gone.

[@melb2258]

Neither parent sound like they’re in their last years, in fact the Father went to his work office in Orlando when he went to see the two losers ! Hope his parents are listening to this !!!! Disown the man baby already!

[@margretenglesson5834]

​@@hopeg8031Good point, it's a prudent thing to do. But there's no denying that the context here gives it a rather sinister ring.

[@victoriasadler1426]

Sounds like the parents dodged a bullet from there whacked out cringy son.

[@debbiecollins8707]

I love that detective! He’s calm & to the point!

[@karenmorente7589]

Sadly it's the true crime community that are trying to be helicopter moms and dads. Poor Maddie had pretty much NO MOM.

[@tinazaccagna1459]

Jennifer Soto was useless as a mom. And I don’t believe any of the teachers that said her behavior wasn’t all changed. I think they were just not plugged in and they were collect the paycheck. The fact was fall asleep every day in school they should’ve called and had them check on the family. That’s not normal.

[@Cyn_dia]

And Jenn playing crazy to get out of it .

[@SisterGoldenHair212]

Very true statement! 💯

[@RunLongJohnsRun]

True and so sad😢

[@miaknig3130]

Jenn barely worked and had an unemployed loser who couldn't contribute any money to the house, but spent money on toys and vapes. Jenn sacrificed Maddie bc she didn't want to be alone. He said the parents were elderly to pretend like he was needed there, not that he was freeloading. 💔

[@MyAngels5]

Just want to say Ms. G. you are just fantastic and clearly the world thinks so too. Media outlets and other creators are following you, that speaks volumes. Keep on keeping on and being you! Much Love.

[@ElizabethButters1111]

My question is why didn’t Jen just let Madeline stay with her grandma one more night since she was soooooooooo tired from working🙄 doesn’t sound like her and Maddie spent much quality time together when she got home from the bday party… their entire story makes zero sense for many reasons.

[@BrownEyedGirl1367]

They also said at one point that the grandmother’s office was very near the school. No reason she couldn’t have stayed the night after the party.

[@ElizabethButters1111]

@@BrownEyedGirl1367exactly!

[@groverhateselmo]

If she had just spent that night at grandmas she might still be alive today. Her life turned on demon SS sick impulses and her mother’s selfishness.

[@heidibedoya]

That grandmother is no better. She did not show any emotion on her interview with Telemundo when Maddie was missing. Omg, poor Maddie! 😢

[@ElizabethButters1111]

@@heidibedoyaugh I haven’t seen that yet! That’s so disheartening.

[@kimshiflett3760]

Hands down the best true crime place to be. Thank you for all your hard work

[@therealunique6937]

Also, how could Jenn correct Stephen about what Maddie was wearing?? She said she didn't see her that morning in her latest interviews smh

[@GrizzlyTrueCrime]

Exactly! She was just basing it on what Maddie usually wore, but later admitted she did not see her. Interesting that she did NOT want them to write down that she was wearing BLUE PANTS, which IS what she was found in!

[@Mimyakko]

She trips herself up so much with that story. Didn't she say she only heard people getting ready? Then she actually saw her getting dressed, and now she didn't see anything again. I'm glad these people have 0 brain cells but it's actually painful to try and lower yourself to their level to understand what they're saying

[@jryan6013]

When people die they tend to void their bladder and bowels. Maybe she left in black shorts and Stefan changed her to blue pants due to the mess. How disrespectful to Maddie

[@alana-zl2fz]

She doesn't tell the truth often. JS.

[@alana-zl2fz]

They watched Sister Act for how long?

[@jackpack3506]

G! You are so sharp! Nobody does this work like you do! The downstairs bedroom makes sense, especially with the croc being left in that room. Brilliant!

[@amandamartinez3233]

He says she walked up to the school like "normal" but didnt he also say it wasnt common for him to drop her off? Gosh, his voice and face just really make me sick!

[@My-22-Cents]

His voice is like he’s trying to sound like a little kids. Creeps me out.

[@amandamartinez3233]

​@@My-22-Centsyea definitely something with his voice. He's just straight up CREEPY!

[@Brrrettt]

His voice is being strangled at the throat From anxiety and stress. He can barely breathe properly. When he’s in prison, he will soon loose the ability to walk. Just look at Darrell Brooks.

[@tammyhotchkiss9165]

​@@BrrretttI hope so😡

[@Perky_Panda]

💯

[@bmay711]

He's getting so nervous when they're asking him about certain roads & that u turn

[@RuthHon-g9n]

No one in the public eye madeJenn look like the monster mom ,,Jenn did all that to herself by comments she made and all the lies she got caught telling ,

[@SassyTrueCrime]

Maddy has touched my heart like no other case has and I'm obsessed with G's coverage 🐻.... thank you for all you do for us true crimers! Justice for MADDIE!! ❤

[@mikeandmals]

Same. Maddie has really imprinted on my heart. This case disturbs me so so much. It stays with me. I honestly don’t think I’ve ever been so disgusted by 2 people in my life. SS is an absolute monster. But Jenn…”mom” …omg she actually makes me rage. Maybe it’s because my oldest daughter is 14 and Jenns disregard for her precious daughter is repulsive. Maddie deserved so much better. Her “mom” failed her in every way and is LYING . She should be in jail for willfully neglecting and knowingly endangering her daughter. Makes me absolutely sick.

[@ShakerMaker1980]

I feel the same. Maddie & Gannon both impacted me massively. Both angels 👼🏻👼🏻 now & no one can ever hurt them again 🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍

[@us4damons]

I feel the same way about sweet Gannon Stauch... 😢

[@techwithbec]

He keeps saying "left her" instead of dropped her off.

[@laurakindle6019]

Oh my gosh he does!!!! Good catch!

[@Mimyakko]

Ugh 🤢

[@rhondamoore2012]

Great observation.

[@jenniferturner6438]

Thank you for caring enough to deep dive for the rest of us!

[@sassynfree884]

I was looking at the picture with the handcuffs last night and people thought they were showing the handcuff marks, but I can see the scratches below them. That poor girl fought HARD for her life😢!

[@lonestarbellepk]

😢

[@pamklins7934]

The police never treated this as a missing person case. They treated this, from the get go, as a crime. I've never seen them kick a family out of the house because their child is missing ..Normally they have at least one of the parents stay at the house in case the kid shows back up.....Somehow they knew a crime had been committed....

[@groverhateselmo]

100% agree. I believe they had SS and probably JS in the crosshairs by Monday night

[@E.L.L.M]

It bothers me to my core hearing Stephan say “we had time to kill” not to mention the amount of time he says it!

[@cosmicshy637]

There was a clip of JS saying something about "being on top of her," referring to her & Maddie. It made my antenna stand up on end!

[@lonestarbellepk]

​@@cosmicshy637ugh...creepy lying perv

[@E.L.L.M]

@@cosmicshy637 Mine too! Just my opinion here but, there’s no way Jen didn’t know what he did. I’m quite sure she was part of it! I’ve rewatched Mumma G’s interviews over and over and every time I listen again, I pick up more lies, strange behaviour and wording that just can’t be explained. If my child or my dog was missing, I’d be giving them absolutely everything I could to assist. Not to mention the language used by the two of them. This story makes me so friggin angry 😡 It hurts me to say this but, Madeline is truly in a better place now, away from these monsters. If only someone could’ve intervened before it got to this point. Fly high beautiful girl, you’re safe now 💜💙💜💙💜

[@Perky_Panda]

Yes- if you listen to Deception Detective, he calls this leakage- truths about the crime that accidentally slip out.

[@toniawilmoth7535]

I noticed his dad says it to in the interview they had with him as well

[@sandragee6358]

Gisela you’re new theory makes so much sense! It explains many of JS answers. Yes! 🙌🏼

[@kellymarie80]

My heart breaks for Maddie, it makes me so sad to think of the pain and anguish she experienced. A life cut too short and how sad to think that her death was an escape from the years of abuse.

[@SisterGoldenHair212]

So very sad. It’s knowing she is at free and not having to suffer at this monster’s hand! Rest in Heavenly Peace 🕊️ ❤

[@miaknig3130]

I keep thinking about her last moments after just having her birthday. The recent children cases are really getting to me; little Gannon, the poor baby on the treadmill, JJ vallow and his sister, the disabled girl in the >120° car... Jenn needs to be in prison now!

[@mybarra28]

@@miaknig3130Audrey Cunningham also she was taken away from this world days before Maddie it’s a heartbreaking thing to think about all these precious babies having their life taken in such horrible ways little Corey Micciolo

[@sarcasmfordays]

I can't believe Jen corrected Stephan about what Maddie was wearing when she said herself that she didn't even see Maddie that morning.

[@Patricia-l2p4v]

Good point!!

[@kayemm1973]

It suggests she's telling lies all over the place for no reason or else she believed him when he first said it and when he got it wrong later she 'corrected' him.

[@Actual-Mayhem]

I think she was helping him when she saw he went off script.

[@sarahsweitzer7483]

I can't stand how he is trying to make a pity party for himself. I can't sleep,eat and poor adhd . What about poor innocent Maddie 😢 Mr. Stephen 🤬

[@luv2luv720]

As he said, he missed the detectives first call because he was sleeping 🙄 😅

[@fantasiazplatkami]

he talks like is the victim here, he escaped from nosy parents just for Maddie to disappear, he is so poor, feel pity for him, victim victim victim

[@sAINTDeVille]

The picture you have in the top left corner of your screen of Maddie younger/older just saddens me deeply as she was truly growing into her own and was surely going to grow up to be a GORGEOUS girl with her entire life ahead of her 😢

[@debraloane3585]

As soon as they say " it was a normal day" it wasn't

[@teresawegner3903]

G you are awesome and very pleasurable to listen to. Thanks for fighting for Maddie. My God bless you.

[@LoveFlowers1]

I have been so emotional today about Maddie's case...😢

[@LinneaSanchez]

Me too

[@rookiecookchick]

Same Here 😢 I feel so off today

[@chartmann43]

Same. All this week and last have been very heavy stuff to hear. She was such a beautiful little soul who had so much to offer our world. I wish I could have been there for her and saved her from her horrible life. 😢😢😢

[@anastasiabeaverhausen516]

Thank you for all of your hard work. Maddie never had a chance. All the adults surrounding her were dangerous to her.

[@OhPleaseMary]

Speaking of SS's frequent use of the word "we" - Jennifer Soto also does that. When she is lying about the phone calls with Maddie's friends, she says she told the girl, "I dropped her off" then corrects herself and says "We dropped her". Funny, she never says, "Stephan dropped her". She also says the girl tells her, "Maddie DIDN'T MAKE IT to school today". That isn't what a kid would say - that is what Jen would say. A kid would say, "She wasn't at school" or "I didn't see her today" - but yes, Jen, keep telling the truth by accident. Maybe the police will eventually make a move and arrest the other half of "WE".

[@heyitsalannaluv]

I denno every time when JS says Maddie “didn’t make it” it makes me think she’s talking about her not being alive bc that’s a saying people say when someone passes

[@OhPleaseMary]

@@heyitsalannaluv She's "leaking" the truth with her words - you're right, that's exactly what it sounds like!

[@axtasticbee5677]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@sagelovestodrum]

The pathetic WE as opposed to the royal "we" man were getting good at sussing the pathology.

[@audreyguilbeaucalhoun5713]

Yes! Spot on, we should listen VERY carefully…

[@ltbp1]

Another reason for Madeleine's potential up and down behaviour which so far seems to have been overlooked - is the fact she seems to go to bed quite late for a 12yo. On the Sunday night, Jen sent them up to bed around 11pm....she had school the next day. And who knows how long Stephan would abuse her for. That poor girl would be so overtired and that causes mood behaviours. She would be crabby, sleepy during class, the works. This would absolutely affect her anxiety/depression. It's another negligent aspect to Jen's lazy/non existent parenting skills. Poor little Madeleine.

[@mikeandmals]

Yes 💯

[@1Milliondollarwoman]

Not to mention they are drugging her in the process too to keep her sleeping.

[@pennywebb9546]

I think she was mostly drugged

[@karenkennedy6331]

He’s the perpetual teenager, never growing up, enabled by many,

[@tammyhotchkiss9165]

Man child😡🤮

[@TMReagon]

Great interview on court tv tonight with Judge Ashley and Cody. Was right on those answers, very Sharpe. Kudos

[@LoveFlowers1]

So on this interview with the older male officer.. you know he says he got home from the vape shop at 10:15 ish am and the Jenn was home sleeping in... Well 🤔 i thought Jenn had a Drs appointment and didn't get home from the drs appointment until 11 am. I believe he told the female detective and "according to Jenn" she got home at 11 am and saw him (stephan) was using her computer and was on the phone... So they BOTH lie and cant keep their stories straight 😡🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

[@betsybrady8520]

When my dogs went missing I could not sleep one minute until I found them I knocked on every door…. I cannot imagine losing a child!!!

[@valencia6101]

I don’t know if I could keep a disgusted look off my face during an interview. It’s so obvious. My youngest daughter just graduated high school, in 12 years as a single mom, never brought a man to my house.

[@debbiecollins8707]

me either when i was a single mom no guys in our home

[@axtasticbee5677]

Exactly. I'm a single parent to a son and they can be abused as well. 18 years the only weird man he's been around is his dad and that's been limited.

[@ShakerMaker1980]

Thank you for putting your child/children first ❤️ This so called mum didn’t even give Maddie her own room. What mother would take the master king size bedroom & leave her daughter in a shared house with other tenants? Jen enrages me so much! 🤬

[@axtasticbee5677]

@@ShakerMaker1980 she didn't have her own room but Jen had a king size bed that she can't stop talking about. I needed a good night's sleep for about 18 years now...

[@groovytuesday6883]

Yup, no man gets his feet under the table with kids in the house. Mum rule #1

[@catherinesmith5011]

2:12 thank you so much for the commentary, much appreciated xx

[@Tylerrr86]

The statement about Maddie liking the cool morning walks has to be his DUMBEST lie of all! It’s so obvious that he totally pulled that out of his ass on the spot. What a pointless lie 😂

[@tammyhotchkiss9165]

Diabolical thinking

[@SmileyRN06]

Right, he says things when he doesn’t have too!

[@rosie1798]

When I was 13 , never needed anyone to help getting dressed.

[@jalexander4575]

I still need help sometimes with a zipper on a dress or a overly complicated strappy top/bathing suit 😂

[@audreyguilbeaucalhoun5713]

Me neither… help with what

[@pennywebb9546]

Or get ready for bad

[@AndreaWard-us9qe]

I love the lady detective “He can call Jen’s phone,” when SS says his dad may need to contact him on his phone. 😎

[@rachaelwatkins9570]

I love how updated you’ve kept us all on this case

[@KCmama]

I hate that I miss most of your lives, I know you’re about 6 hours ahead of my time lol. I usually catch the end when I get out of work. But I love these deep dives and watching with you all😊

[@jherod2024]

You channel is amazing. Your presentation, professionalism, wit, victim advocacy, and your passion to educate your audience is admirable.

[@sueper28]

Even if the videos or information is already out there I always wait until you drop the video! Love what you do!

[@NoseyPosey58]

Stephan didn't go looking for Maddie because he knew she was dead. Jenn didn't go looking either...

[@axtasticbee5677]

Jen also talks about Maddie in the past tense constantly before they even found her body.

[@laurakindle6019]

When he said Jen might know what time he factory reset his phone….that really got my attention, because why would he tell her about that? I believe after he killed Maddie he told Jen everything and they TOGETHER came up with a plan and a story.

[@pamelagibson470]

Both of them are despicable Staples want to lie she's culpable in all of this because she put up with it

[@pamelagibson470]

I think he will eventually indicate her in the crime also he will talk to save his ass

[@barbmurraybabss]

The female detective is expressing her disqust. She is relaying the repulsive feelings we have

[@jessicahawkins492]

He's talking about hoodie and cold walks details and can't tell exact drop off the female investigator cuts his babble off with a mmhhmm so where'd you drop her off. She saw right through his lying pathetic ass from the start

[@Rubyellastudios]

I really appreciate your hard work. Best channel ever! Thank you for your hard work!!

[@lauradadd5653]

Just started Watching this episode on replay as missed live. Thankyou G for your incredible coverage. Also watched yesterdays late last night on replay Thankyou 🐻 ❤💜🐻

[@Jean-dq2ve]

Thank you for covering . Loving to hear your's and the communities comments. Im not bothered with the stops 😊

[@Kas-d5b]

Kudos to the cop for not giving it away when he casually asked about him being sent by Jen to sleep together in his room upstairs. I'd have been like "does she have her own bed"? Surprised if he didn't ask if it was typical for them to sleep together just the two of them in the same one. Just that right there must have sent off alarms. All Jen DOES is sleep - take naps - definitely drugged up. Her biggest concern when they arrested him was could she get her drugs in the car or condo. Poor Maddie.

[@victoriasadler1426]

Yep to many drugs, I hope Jenns doctors see all the news on poor Maddie, and stop prescribing her all these drugs, and she has to lay in bed at night thinking about what she let happen to her daughter, and unable to sleep.

[@RunLongJohnsRun]

I was shaking my head in disgust when he was saying he hadn't eaten in two days. I look up and G is also shaking her head. Pretty sure we had the same look on our faces too. These detectives have more patience for stupid than I do.

[@karenj6726]

I love how he says he "accidentally" reset his phone. You can't even turn off your phone without it asking you to verify you want to turn it off. He is so smart. NOT

[@francescawilliams8177]

Mine will also ask for a password, then tell you again you will loose that data including for network settings

[@susanomoore2673]

Hello fellow south African.. can't get enough.awesome facts..thankyou..

[@simplymarbelous]

Yup! Noticed the (stomach- turning) emotion in his voice when he mentioned her “crushes”. It’s the ONLY time his voice did that the entire time! SOOOOOO unsettling…(observation by someone with an adult son the SAME age…)

[@alohakrueger5447]

Where in the interview approx can I hear that??

[@ShakerMaker1980]

@@alohakrueger5447 @23:00

[@sunnydaze5721]

Me too! It made me cry. It’s sad that complete strangers care more for this girl than her stupid mother!!

[@shannonsullivan4858]

That female officer who questioned him near the end was awesome. She knew he was full of 💩 immediately! He had to have been so freaked out bc she didn't hide it at all with her suspicion and line of questions.

[@pennywebb9546]

He has never appeared moved by any of this. He is a narcissistic deviant

[@FreeYourMind-e9h]

Towards the end of the last interview, in reference to hurting himself changing the tire, "I made a rookie mistake." " I panicked" "I panicked" Is he realizing the mistakes he made in trying to cover-up and that he has already implicated himself?

[@monicapatton1405]

Yeah, there’s a lot of imbedded confessions.

[@leaharchambault5796]

100%

[@alissak.1512]

When asked for permission to look at Joe phone - “ugh ….it should be fine” - he thought he hid everything

[@jedilegoarts9882]

I’m a teacher in the UK…we have a very robust safe guarding system and curriculum at my school… however… I think we do need to make more of warning people both kids and adults… do not tell your abuser that you are going to leave or report them…. Do it behind their backs and get safe first. So dangerous to confront them.

[@chrisle3139]

The detectives are awesome!! “Just so I’m not confused”.

[@sarbriRN]

You were wonderful on Court TV!

[@laure26]

The way he words things & whines makes him sound like he was obsessed or in love with her. It’s making me sick. You’re spot on with the twin flame idea

[@DCReader]

This case is so heartbreaking. Poor, sweet girl. I hope the inmates find out what he's done.

[@gissel3524]

I just can't, poor Maddie. JUSTICE!

[@LeanneRigby-iy7nx]

I have to say G, that intro you made was incredibly heartfelt. Thanks for all your hard work 💚💜

[@juanitacope9455]

If one of my boys went missing… I’d be searching until the point of hospitalization for exhaustion. Even then I’d need to be restrained from leaving AMA. Jenn is flipping so many red flags for me.

[@jenniferbestulic3579]

Completely agree. I would likely need to be sedated to be able to get any rest. And I certainly wouldn't be talking calmly and making jokes with cops. I would be absolutely hysterical.

[@victoriasadler1426]

@@jenniferbestulic3579oh Jenn seems to be sedated 24/7.

[@sunnydaze5721]

She went home and slept Smfh she’s a liar!!

[@Truecrimeaddicted]

Ooh, that female cop is DONE with his sh!t !!

[@tracyafig]

What a frkn pathological liar about his parents!!! I lost both of my parents within 1.5 years of one another, my mom a month ago.😢 I'd do anything and everything to help them out in anyway. I loved and respected them and miss them everyday.

[@GrizzlyTrueCrime]

I'm so sorry for your loss!

[@BrownEyedGirl1367]

🌹🌹🌹

[@mamawnorma5364]

@@49ersfan62 sorry for your loss! It’s been the worst pain I’ve ever experienced!

[@rookiecookchick]

I have my mom but unfortunately can’t go see her as she’s in Mexico and I’m unable to go 😢 I wish with my heart she was near Me I need her

[@chrissyart7984]

Sorry for your Loss,💐 Condolences 🙏 to you& your Lovely Family ..I Too know how you feel, it's bn 23 yrs Since Dad has gone& last yr Dec 17th Since My Mother passed away from a horrible Cancer..RIP TO OUR BEAUTIFUL PARENTS 👼👼🌹🙏🕊💐✝️⚘🥀

[@annmoore8696]

This poor Child 😭 I Pray for Justice 🙏 ⚖️

[@tiffanyb4979]

Gisela thank you so much for this coverage. You are a True Crime Queen and you deserve all the flowers. God bless Maddie and all who are touched by this tragedy. This monster deserves everything that’s coming.

[@janahertzberg6485]

I agree your thoughts on how things unfolded are spot on! It makes so much sense.

[@anneward4022]

Look at all the scratches on his hands😮

[@kimmer8547]

Thank you for all you do..great detail and commentary

[@TraceDaAce01]

Full justice for Maddie!!!🙏🙏💝💝

[@ShakerMaker1980]

Full justice IMO includes arresting Jen Soto! DP for Sterns & some serious prison time for Jen.

[@MSgirl67]

Those precious pictures just break my heart. This poor baby had no one she could count on to protect her. She had to endure all that pain for years. Such a shame. I know she is a special angel in heaven now. 😇😪

[@Poecuz]

His parents are in their EARLY 70s. Jenn said they were REALLY old. WTH?

[@GrizzlyTrueCrime]

Jenn and Stephan saying their ancient and deaf and heavy 😅 Oh my word 😱

[@PamelaLeftwich]

😮 They're a lot older than I am, but intelligent, articulate and very sociable! They're very capable of caring for themselves! SS is the one that needs a caregiver! He is a slug😂😂!!!

[@BlackRainbow84]

'end of life plans' lol

[@YP_MOM]

The parents seem to have more energy than lazy Jen and deadbeat Stephan put together. It really aggravates me to hear giant baby Stephan call his parents old and near the end of their life, when despite their age, he leeches off of them. If they’re so old, why can’t Stephan get off his fat butt and take some financial strain off of them. What a loser, deadbeat, chronically unemployed, coward.

[@diannlimo4502]

@@BlackRainbow84what an absolute loser liar

[@gayleoverly7613]

Brutal content but listening to you is comforting

[@Klep-ec3ei]

The exhaling everytime they are asked about specific times.... it's getting really old. Effing liars.

[@cosmicshy637]

Yep, SS & JS BOTH do it. That Def means something!

[@joanne8084]

Thank you for making these! I thought I’d like the Audio only videos with no commentary but I decided to watch one of the lives & people chiming in & the in-depth commentary & think it is great & started watching as many I can 😅😂. I feel like I’m sorta able to watch with like minded people and it makes it so much more interesting ( no one I hangout with likes to follow cases like I do)

[@juanitacope9455]

This ‘McD’s promise’ is so sus to me… it’s the only consistent thing that SS keeps saying. It makes me think that McD’s breakfast was the ‘bribe’ & Maddie refused the ‘trade’.

[@cosmicshy637]

Yes there's something so sus about that being constantly repeated by SS & JS.. I smell bull p00p.

[@tammyhotchkiss9165]

I think so too. What teen refuses mickey D's if not used as a nefarious way😡🤮🥺

[@chelseadiaz]

If getting up and leaving early was for McDonald’s, then not get it? It’s the whole point of leaving the house early. Jen said that she talked to Maddie and Stephan before they went to bed on Sunday and he was talking about taking Maddie to McDonald’s for her birthday or the next day. I think Jen brought that up because he called her to tell her Maddie didn’t want McDonald that morning while she was at the doctors office. He left a message on her phone.

[@MsK_1111]

My theory is thats what he told Jen as an explanation of why they were leaving so early

[@MsK_1111]

Maybe he never even realized he dropped the one croc

[@wishingyoupeace]

Thank you Gisela for excellent coverage.