The K-Pop Group BULLY Scandal That Changed The Industry Forever AOA | Spicy Cheesy Crawfish Mukbang

[@StephanieSoo]

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[@edoodoo1017]

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[@idk-mr4hz]

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[@nanee026]

Not only that this was one of the biggest bullying scandal, it then led other Kpop idols & actors/actresses accused of being bullies. It was literally a disaster during 2021.

[@mailee2353]

Everyone was getting cancelled in 2021. I think that was the start of less interactions between groups. Now everyone stays in their lane and will not move a pinky toe out of line.

[@MoonMoonTM]

The biggest bullying scandal in K-pop was T-ara's scandal. Also Jimin and Minah's scandal isn't what led to many idols being accused. It was those two volleyball players being exposed that led to a ton of idols suddenly being accused.

[@thatasiangirl0_039]

​@@MoonMoonTM The AOA one was much more talked about

[@yadiaag7771]

Yeah it even got to old classmates claiming being bullied over nothing. Some remarks might sting but taking it as far as saying bullying? Bruh Even Yunhyeong from iKon was targeted but all his classmates came to his defense some classmates even said that when he witnessed the start of bullying he would take the bully away and take attention away from them. The victim said that Yunhyeong took care for him in his own way and was thankful he was one of the only people who cared enough to get the bully away from him.

[@MoonMoonTM]

@@thatasiangirl0_039 T-ara was literally a punching bag for 5+ years and pretty much had to stick to China activities due to being hated in Korea so much. You're also forgetting that during 2nd gen there weren't as many K-pop fans and social media wasn't what it is today. It was so bad that people took Secret's car accident articles and made comments along the lines of "T-ara are you seeing this? This is how you should act. Instead y'all would probably be like 'move over b*tch' and leave __ to die."

[@jsj9907]

lee hyo ri is always a girls girl. the mother. she’s honestly too pure for this world. she did this even when jimin wasn’t proven not to be guilty

[@moonlight-mh5om]

an absolute icon forreal. i’m glad that she was there for jimin.

[@crichri]

Yes !! But i also think that being in the industry, it's not hard to ask around to know which of these two girl is the one with an attitude and which one is a real hard worker, especially considering who she is. AOA had many managers, staff members, maybe assistants etc, most of these ppl stayed in the industry and words travel. I think she knew, and i think a lot of people had a rough idea

[@haosru]

lmao "even when jimin wasn’t proven not to be guilty" wtf even is this sentence, y'all netizens never remember the phrase "innocent until proven guilty", jimin wasn't even proven to be guilty to begin with, lee hyori isn't "too pure for this world" she was the only sane one in that situation who knew that jimin could be innocent and didn't follow the herd mentality and assume that she was the bad guy like y'all did

[@jaer349]

@@haosruthis situation is exactly why I left the K-pop fan/Stan scene all together

[@fatimasummaray784]

@@jaer349that’s what I’m trying to do but it’s kinda hard to not be nosy when it comes to what’s going on in K-pop 🙄

[@renk.8574]

This scandal literally shooked the whole kpop world.

[@anzievlyn6820]

Hello❤

[@AveryWeinstein]

Definitely!!

[@burntbeansoup]

Shooked isn't a word

[@Uchiha.Itachii]

Not me

[@gavi2543]

​@@burntbeansoupmaybe correct them next time instead of being passive aggressive. english isn't everyone's first language.

[@uh-kneejeongyeon2837]

Sad that Mina got away with almost ruining countless lives. Yes, she is mentally unstable and needs help and I hope she receives the help she needs. But, she needs to be held accountable for what she did. She’s acting like nothing happened and didn’t even apologize. Imagine Jimin or any of the other members had decided to take their lives because of this…no one knows someone else’s mental capacity and this situation could have been the last straw for Jimin or the other members.

[@summerloaver]

@@fartunhilowle7745 no one was a bully, research before spreading misinformation please

[@delilah28100]

curious why Jimin or her agency never took this to court? Defamation and libel are criminal cases in Korea

[@effingcool1780]

​@@fartunhilowle7745 Why should anyone act like besties with someone so mental like her? Jimin didn't ask for someone so crazy she suddenly had to take responsibility. I wouldn't be happy in this situation too. To me it's not bullying. I give little shit about shitty dramatic people. I don't have to lick their assses to appear like a nice person

[@TriceyXo]

​@@miracleyang9220They did, and their text messages between Jimin and Mina were leaked, plus even more evidence proving that Mina just made this all up to gain popularity as an actress.

[@jenniferstone3205]

@@TriceyXo not it was not its simple to cover up bullying . The bully never gets held accountable im sure she she was bullied and people like are okaywith it

[@mariellmania]

love how stephanie spills korean and chinese celeb tea on this channel now lol

[@itsjustali2104]

Lol me toooo

[@aishac9301]

Honestly my favorite segment sometimes my brain can’t take too much true crime 😅❤

[@neorise127]

​@@aishac9301 same. I like true crime but sometime I just think "Damn, I need to watch something a little bit more positive or less violent more often. No wonder I'm so negative."

[@jojihye]

​@@neorise127ok true after watching sm true crime i learn to be so weary of humans n i got a lot of more fears now HAHAHAH

[@mariavwrld]

yeah! I have been distancing myself from true crime a lot bc of that, its tricky@@neorise127

[@AbcdIDGAF]

If you check the aoa schedule Mina was mostly out and did not attend most shows etc when her father was on the hospital. She also has said her father was an extremely abusive person growing up etc saying he’s an awful person and went to a “magician show” where she explained a lot of the stuff that allegedly happened in her youth from her father. She also blames Jimin for a lot of misfortunes that Jimin cannot control… KZbinr from AOA Heart Attack MV who was an actor in the Video has also said that “Mina was difficult person and hard to work with.. she went and did the opposite of what the group and team were doing on set making it difficult.” This video is many years prior to the bullying allegations so they are his viewpoint entirely.

[@teyayaa6392]

Wow...

[@lovepersonaa]

Ohhh😧

[@dayday9414]

She was filming a kdrama too, "Modern Farmer", and the production let her see her father in the morning and film in the afternoon and also gave her less scenes to let her stay more with her father.

[@AA-ed6ek]

She only made those claims about her father after he died and other things.

[@monsterbaek1648]

Should ve kick mina since 2016 tsk

[@harps221]

The story starts at 7:07 for anyone that needs it

[@Sara-hs3ng]

Thank you

[@Jdidbdhd]

Tyyyyyy😭💕💕

[@TheDlv72887]

Tysm ❤

[@squidproductions2923]

Thank you, hearing Stephanie promote Temu after all the news that’s come out about them is honestly so disappointing. I know she needs to get paid though

[@SHINeeWORLDDDDD]

Thanks

[@jongyang88]

I used to sympathize totally with people crying for help until I met people like Mina. It's so important to hear all sides of the story before coming to conclusions. Some people really take things out of proportions in their heads.

[@biazacha]

Yep, there’s a reason why law works by innocent til proven guilty, witch hunts to ruin someone will always exist.

[@cheeznutz32]

Yes same! This scandal really opened up my eyes bc the amount of ppl tht came to drag Jimin was A WHOLE LOT and it all happened so fast before the real proof came out.

[@louicapyrophobia]

Yes but no, mina gave maaaany Red flags to be sus about. Other victims mostly dont act like her, so just bc of her, pls dont be suspicious against victims and deny or harshly question their allegations

[@shuang2878]

It makes you wonder if you're dealing with a covert/vulnerable narcissist or not, because to me Mina definitely sounded like she checked lots of the traits.

[@funnlim]

So.. in the end the bully is actually being bullied? I have issues with people canceling another thru social media by way of public trial. I find it unfair to the accused since if such is the case then bring a case to court for compensation where things need to be proven. Higher standard than just crying into camera. Some are true but the method is wrong.

[@sweetchilli0407]

Don’t idolise anyone. Every human fails at some point. And we also don’t know what happens behind the scenes.

[@nusayba864]

i learned this the hard way when chaeyoung situation. i felt that it was hard to forgive her because of the perfect image i had of her in my brain.

[@Lyct]

I try to tell everyone this because it'll only make you defend them constantly or when there's a little mistake you see them differently.

[@typlim]

i love Jennie and what i met her irl she is sooo kind so yh

[@baebae1916]

true, Iam a fan of idols myself but I like them for their talent and music. I never Idolise them for their personality bcs you'll never know what they're like behind the scenes😂

[@HorangiTae]

​@@nusayba864what happened with chaeyoung?

[@HobieInTheBox]

I truly felt so bad for Mina when the allegations first came out. And watching her decline mentally and spiral like that was so much worse.

[@Hello-pg8jr]

Same especially when she found out the person (don’t remember the profession) she was attending to when seeking for professional help was sharing her discussion/ problems to staff employees..big ooof. Highly unprofessional, idc how much money they paid for their license/ degree. You don’t share your patients problem at all because it really can harm them.

[@fitchbit8702]

​@@Hello-pg8jr Was that part of the story proven to be true? Because if it was, Mina can sue.

[@junehoneycrisp]

​@@fitchbit8702 It's unfortunately often true when it comes to idols. Recently an actual monk leaked info on a bts member who'd just come to the temple to relax :/

[@HiddenDonut01]

Honestly I’m meh. I have bpd, like Mina is suspected of having, and would never act this way. My wife also has Bpd, and lived a very abusive childhood, and would also never act that way. Mina is just a bad person who happens to have mental health issues. Not the other way around.

[@Megabot_6000]

Mina's behavior could have caused those around her to harm themselves, mental health problems is no excuse to behave the way she did.

[@blooshings]

I feel like... after this scandal, no one learned from it. There have been dozens of allegations of abuse, especially school violence, after AOAs scandal, and everyone reacted the exact same way. No one thought twice. Maybe they did, but the actions of people who didn't spoke louder and had more of an impact. Innocent idols even lost their entire careers because of it. If there is anything this scandal influenced in the K-pop industry is.. it encouraged more allegations (both true and false) to come out.

[@unuboldlavien9281]

True. It's as they say, SOME people can't stand seeing people being successful and won't think for a second before dragging them through mud.

[@danii1.]

I immediately thought of g-idle’s Soojin after I saw your comment. No one learned, nothing changed, and idols are dropped so quickly never to be heard from again. It breaks my heart

[@braveheartalice]

Both Garam and Soojin suffered from false allegations as well, and it hurts to know they probably won't be the last. The public always wants a villain to scrutinize, and don't care to do their research first

[@Kiran37369]

@@danii1. yes 😢 my soojin was fav. I’m sad. She no g idle 😡

[@danii1.]

@@Kiran37369 Me too :( I still feel so sad about Soojin to this day. cube is horrible 😭

[@winterchill5501]

Being once the target of a person with narcissistic personality disorder, I got triggered by this story. I kind of understood how Mina manipulated events to make Jimin look evil because I've been on the receiving end like Jimin. I think what happened here was Mina's constant acting up (as backed up managers and staffers) eventually wore out Jimin's patience, and when it's your job as the group leader to keep a difficult person (as attested by managers and staff) in check for all these years, there will come a point where your patience is stretched so thin that it's easy to to pop off at that person especially in stressful situations. (that's why Jimin doesn't remember these incidents).. It's likely true that Jimin said harsh things to Mina in sheer exasperation, but Mina embellished the story, magnified Jimin's reaction and simply redacted her own part in what led up to Jimin acting/reacting the way she did. If you take away the context and simply say Jimin said these things to Mina for no reason, then she does sound evil and inhuman. That's why people should never take these he said/ she said narratives as gospel truth.

[@Coffeebaby99]

@natalie7662not every narcissist is the same but and armchair diagnosis is not it. Op was just saying they’ve experienced something similar with a person who had npd. So you agree with them- Mina has narcissistic tendencies

[@simonatyufekchieva]

Stephanie covering a K-pop case is the crossover of my two favourite things 🩷

[@heartandseoul1299]

She’s literally covered cases in the KPop world before 🤨

[@simonatyufekchieva]

@@heartandseoul1299 never said she hadn’t?? I’ve watched all of her videos and it is still the crossover of my two favourite things

[@aziza5436]

dw queen, the rest of us 110% agree with you!! ❤️

[@tiasaywhat]

YASSSS! Exact same!!!

[@YejisGirly]

Sameee

[@djjaewon]

Mina sounds like a very exhausting person to be around. I don’t care if she has mental issues or not, it does not give her any right to destroy a lot of people’s lives. How unfair it is for a person to threaten another person by threatening to take their own life.

[@a.alphonso6193]

you are evil

[@haze1811]

​@@a.alphonso6193 No they r right. A lot of people have such issues but not everyone goes out n does shi like this.

[@angedies]

@@a.alphonso6193evil? I think Mina is an evil person for ruining that many lives and still play as the victim. Yes, she’s is mentally ill but that shouldn’t be an excuse for being such an horrible and selfish human

[@boni9033]

@@haze1811exactlyy

[@RandomLifeTips101]

you had a bad take here.

[@bobcatred]

Did you ever read the manga Peach Girl? The whole story is about one girl bullying another by playing the victim and making the other girl look like the bully. They even start off as friends. This whole thing is like the K-pop version of that story

[@mindaramd3404]

Sounds like what happened to T-ara

[@Savy.girl7_]

That’s what I was about to say.

[@tuxedo_ri]

master gaslighter typa shit

[@elsasalah]

Do they find out about the bully girl in the end?? I'm thinking of reading it.

[@ginikaakpata8829]

they made this into an anime too, i’ve watched it a few times

[@asenath3237]

Lee Hyori continues to surpirse and fascinate me as a person. I am glad she reached out to Jimin and gave her a safe space to stay for her mental health. I think Hyori is a person who lives and really learns from her past. She has mentioned in, a more joking manner, about how she used to be a stuck-up idol in her early days of FINKL and how even her own members and other girl groups didn't like her because of her attitude. She said other girl groups often fought with her in the bathrooms of music shows. When asked if her own members helped her, she said "why would they? I was an asshole to them, so why would they help me?" She owns up to her past negative behaviors, understands why she reacted in that way, and she actually seems apologetic. I am sure a lot of things went down within FINKL but all the girls grew up and came to be with all the small and big issues that happened in their young age. It shows a level of maturity and good health.

[@monsterbaek1648]

Whew lhr just started maturing when 25 or 30

[@hanji6]

The amount of content we’re getting recently is INSANE tysm 😭

[@Rose.to.Spring]

han jisung what are you doing here

[@PikaPikaCho]

​@@Rose.to.Spring 🤣🤣🤣

[@rremity]

HAN!!!

[@shannonigans_]

The using self harm to emotionally manipulate is always a red flag.

[@prunusserrulata7686]

I've been a casual kpop fan since 2nd gen so I know years prior to this, there's similar scandal that happened to T-ara. So when I first heard about Mina's accusations I just sat here and thought that would've been very 'funny' if her accusations were also proven false after the heat died down. And voila turned this one was also false. Sadly, netizens didn't learn from this 2 cases. There had been false bullying accusations that surfaced these last 3 years and some were proven as false, i.e. Soojin, Woojin, and Garam's case. But netizens can't just sit tf down to wait and see.

[@typlim]

yh i cried when Garam left Le sserafim like she was only 16...

[@chuwineshia3615]

T-ara’s one really made me cry. They were doing so well! I loved that era when they had that storyline but then the accusations happened. Hays everyone really believed her and quickly judged them.

[@avajiao7221]

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[@everydayistheworstday1237]

Kim Seonho allegations too

[@SaulGonzalez-os2pm]

omg so true

[@snowflowerwork]

I don't think this is primarily about bullying, I think it's about a mental health crisis. The k-pop industry really needs to take their artists' mental health more seriously. Too many people have lost their lives! The online platforms that allow netizens to harass people are also at fault here for not regulating what is posted and spread online!

[@AwakeningWings]

It's both bullying and a mental health crisis. The youth there are not doing well at school or in life and they end up with mental health issues. It's just all-around bad. Even regulating posts won't be enough, this needs to start with society and its societal conditioning. It all has to be reworked completely otherwise things like this will keep happening and things will never change. It is so deeply exhausting having to see all this happen over and over again.

[@irondragonmaiden]

Netizens are responsible for their own fucking behavior. If you are the sort of person who dogpiles, then maybe you're just a horrible person in the first place and need to own up to that and work on being something that is actually worthy of the title of human being. Frankly, the organization kept Mina for longer than most would considering she didn't take vocal lessons, missed dance practices, was always late, mistreated staff, and did things like getting a hair transplant procedure the day before she had to go to dance practice. The more I hear about her work ethic, or lack thereof, the more I'm surprised she wasn't fired or at least demoted until she wasn't part of the group anymore. And that would be the case in a regular organization in the west too, at best someone would get laid off and helped to get disability checks because, if we accept the narrative that all the above is all due to mental health issues, then her mental health is so severe she can't work and needs to be on disability until she gets proper meds and therapy. That would be the best and ideal case scenario. (And, mind you, mental health issues doesn't excuse being an asshole to people like mistreating the staff or targeting another person just because)

[@Sumivampireprincessss]

I agree @snowflowerwork

[@Kaeldra3]

I genuinely just don’t think I’ll ever get over how fucked the timing of the whole thing was… like aoa was finally doing well and and breaking free of the sexy concept which they were essentially locked into prior… like bruh… I can only imagine what could have been

[@KimJongUnnie]

They weren’t “locked into” it 🤦‍♀️

[@Kaeldra3]

@@KimJongUnnie yeah “locked” probably wasn’t the best word but I’m tired and it’s late. Still, they were definitely pushed more in that direction and it finally felt like they were getting to express another side of their music with a new era when all the shit hit the fan.

[@sas534]

aoa wasnt doing well a year or two prior to that. Mina could have said all her things then . But she waited until aoa was finally doing well again. If that’s not calculating and malicious idk what is

[@jm14409]

​@sas534 agree, aoa was doing well again after queendom 🥲

[@biazacha]

@@jm14409 still the most viewed stage from s1, at least AOA was able to show off their skills in the show in a way the group concept never really allowed to :(

[@liisaa287]

I got into kpop in 2019 and once I discovered AOA I fell in *LOVE* with them, especially when they were on Queendom. So when this scandal came out a year later, it was so hard to go through as a big fan. And especially hearing how the tables have turned, it still makes me sad how much the rest of the members went through

[@cara_luna]

Queendom was something different tho 😍 🔥

[@DinamitaLife]

I was a fan since Good luck I think, and watching them on Queendom was so fun! I wanted them to shine again! but then all this happened

[@ttalgicher]

Also to add Mina started all of this when AOA suddenly get famous during Queendom reality show after she quit the group. People love AOA and their performances were viral online, many article kind of saying what if Mina didn’t terminate her contract . That’s another reason why us fans believe she suddenly started the fiasco. Even the oldest member who quit before Mina shows support to Jimin

[@blee-bleep3906]

i was also waiting when she would mention Queendom, as a queer moomoo, i loved AOA's cover of MAMAMOO (and vice versa), and wondered if their big surge in popularity due to it led Mina's mental health to tip over like imagine working ur life as an idol for years and decided to stop, only for the short time u left, ur group suddenly gone on a viral hit? it would have deffo amped up any hatred bubbling in mina up at the time

[@Sumivampireprincessss]

Good thinking

[@user-uz5pk4wd4t]

wait did choa publicly support jimin? if so then im glad

[@leprofessionalhobo7767]

Another thing is that Jimin’s dad’s hospital bills were not paid for by the company. Mina just made that up. Also, Mina had gotten time off after her father’s death but she kept claiming that she was given no sympathy and that they all forced her to go back to work immediately.

[@twilightbabe123]

I think this story of jealousy is as old as time. It’s disturbing that social media could be used to drag out this type of personal vendetta.

[@lila9349]

seem more like extreme paranoia where she thinks everything and everybody are out to get her.

[@thatasiangirl0_039]

​@@lila9349 Nah it's jealousy, very different from paranoia

[@zierasalleh1900]

It is jealousy. It's even more obvious with her behaviour to Seolhyun. She specifically named her and Jimin in her sui**** letter before she self-harm, even when she can't even name one thing Seolhyun did wrong to her. It's hilarious that the ONE story she manages to conjure up to tries to justify calling Seolhyun as a bad person is just when Seolhyun brings her puppy to the dorm, and the puppy poops in the dorm... Mind you, AOA members are separated into two different dorms back then and Seolhyun didn't even share the same dorm with Mina...

[@p1kkuma]

not jealousy towards jimin (maybe towards seolhyun though lol). sensitivity and narcissism. jimin as the leader got all the resentment for being the leader because she had to reel mina in. choa (who was a perfectionist and said to be pretty strict, at least early in their career) said mina wouldn't listen to her at all and wouldn't do things she was told to, so choa gave up on trying early on. an actor for an MV even had things to say about mina's poor attitude while filming and that she would constantly need people reminding her to do what she had to do. someone had to be the one to try and put mina in place and it was jimin, so mina saw it as a personal attack against her. mina suffers from serious narcissism in general, from accounts of her bossing managers around. people who worked with her (managers, actors on their MV's) said she was not pleasant to work with. anyway. basically i hope mina can get help and therapy because clearly she has issues.

[@NotElegantJ]

I think she was jealous of Seolhyun but had nothing to pin on her so she took out on the closest person to her

[@annejia5382]

If Stephanie's ever gonna do Soojin's case, even though it's still hard for me, I'm all for it. That older sister who's so creepy and alarming specially with the age difference and her meddling with kids and adding fire to it when she's doing it out of boredom and attention. That older sister needs a stronger second wave of people asking for her accountability on the situation. 💔

[@minafra1717]

yes and the sister was on live saying scary things how she would snap sj neck like tffff so creepy it’s so devastating

[@brandy2444]

Who is soojin?

[@annejia5382]

@@brandy2444 gidle

[@stephluna1723]

Woah what happened here? Didn’t know about this

[@teatea5528]

I don't think there is enough information about the Soojin case. I miss her so much

[@Jdidbdhd]

Can we just appreciate how is Stephanie works her ass off to make us happy we love u Stephanie😭😭

[@modkip25]

Honestly? This whole scandal made me step back from cancel culture for good. I refuse to pass judgement anymore without getting both sides of the story and without getting some proof. Mina screwed over everyone who has ever been a victim of bullying fr. ☠

[@inkassosjefen6315]

Good! I never activly doubt the victim (im not even shi*ng on amber heard), but I dont cancel the one being accused eighter. Because I just dont know.

[@krazedcrazy1]

This bullying scandal unintentionally created this sudden realization that - bullying can ACTUALLY cancel someone so much to the point that their career/life could fall apart, so bullying accusations were coming in left and right against idols, some true, some false and it was a whole shit show

[@Aphro20]

watching the drama in real time was emotionally taxing, even to me who’s not even following aoa at that time, and looking back through this, i can say this one really broke the kpop internet at that time

[@nooneatall8313]

Mukbang starts: 3:17 Story Starts: 7:06

[@Nahhh027]

[@revinaque1342]

It sounds like Mina has a persecution complex, which is often a symptom of underlying mental illness. She definitely needs help and LOTS of therapy

[@qwq843]

Well, Mina doesn't sound like victim at all. More like a professional victim. A person who seeks attention, even if it means to harm oneself.

[@leah6700]

Istg like i'm not denying that shit happened to her and that jimin bullied her but the way she talks and what she posts just sounds so manipulating

[@biazacha]

@@leah6700 I mean it all points out to Jimin not doing shit, everybody who worked with AOA was liking stuff supporting Jimin and all the members still in contact and close to her. Mina targeted Jimin because she was popular despite not fitting the beauty standard and Mina was bitter over it.

[@chaestrwbr]

@@biazachai just don’t understand tho, like what was it all even for. what was she honestly gaining atp

[@yunhosparrot]

This whole scandal was so upsetting to hear and see in real time. I feel sorry for Mina because she obviously is not okay and I seriously hope she’s getting the help she needs. I also hope Jimin is doing well and is able to move forward

[@yunhosparrot]

I remember when the whole thing came out I was shocked and didn’t know what to believe. It was just assumed that Jimin was the bad guy and tbh I was upset with her but not to the point where I bad mouthed her cause 1. What good does that do for me and 2. I don’t know the full story. Then when Mina kept going on about it that’s when I started getting a bit suspicious of her and then look what happened. This is why people who don’t know what really happened CANNOT PICK SIDES. If you’re not involved don’t make yourself involved especially if something is still unfolding. It just makes things worse

[@lifebeautiful6389]

I originally felt sorry for her, but it seems like she wasn't a nice person to start. She needs help, but also many people who are depressed don't treat others like crap. I don't trust anyone that's rude to staff members/custodians/waiters, etc.

[@kinanana6856]

@@lifebeautiful6389 literally

[@Megabot_6000]

Mental health is not an excuse for poor behavior, her actions caused serious tangible harm to others

[@hilaholo6822]

Unfortunately, all members except Seolhyun (the center) aren't doing well now

[@JL-vy7qh]

Mina sounds like someone who has a severe borderline personality disorder and/or a narcissist. Her mother seems to enable her behavior, so unfortunately it will be extremely unlikely for her to change.... sad and scary

[@eunoia007]

What's even more sad is this wasn't an example for k-pop fans to stay neutral when something happens. Woojin's case came after this and regardless of all the allegations being proved wrong the fans kept on saying he was a bully and then Garam's case. People refused to think. They refused to take a look at the pics being spread of "garam" doing wrong stuff and making dirty jokes and it got so bad that Garam was made to leave the group and the kpop fans were celebrating, celebrating that a 16 year old who worked hard for years to debut. Then receipts started coming in and it was clear Garam wasn't a bully but of course the kpop community wasn't going to accept that they were wrong and just kept on making jokes and hating on her. The kpop community has learnt absolutely nothing from this sad case.

[@KimJongUnnie]

I feel so bad for garam, she’s just a kid

[@sooniemeow5809]

@@FOHaabwoojin’s bully allegation brought up AFTER he left the company. there’s no way u comparing his with hyunjin n soojin cases n lucky u say? no uh coz that man choose to leave the group or at least did something that result on breaking off the contract. he decided, n not even a victim

[@biancatitong5108]

It’s the same with Lucas too.

[@cherikoma7381]

@@sooniemeow5809ah yes, every time someone decides they want to not do something anymore it means they’re guilty of something.

[@FOHaab]

@sooniemeow5809 3 months later and I'm here to admit that you're right and I didn't have even half as much context as I needed pertaining to woojin.

[@BibiMiles1]

THE BIGGEST RED FLAG 🚩 the mom sending her daughter’s S/H pics to her bf to guilt trip him … HER MOM IS AN ENABLER assisting her to use S/H and mental health to get her way

[@catherinethecatlike]

I just feel so frickin bad for Jimin. She’s basically been bullied her entire career from mean fans who won’t stop bashing her for her looks and calling her Samuel Jackson and just being so dang mean. I hate when fans jump the boat way too soon and it literally ruins peoples lives. Koop fans hate bullies but they sure as hell aren’t afraid to bully someone out of their career.

[@its_narmeen]

She should do a video compiling all kpop scandals that led to members having to leave their groups for various reasons such as soojin, garam, hanbin, wonho, woojin, lucas, dawn, jinni etc

[@prabirdas5634]

Yesssssss!

[@lamoskgr]

1:06:08 Not because she looks like Samuel L Jackson but because she knows that haters have called Jimin that for years and it's an insecurity of hers. Mina is eviiiil

[@kinanana6856]

My name is kina😳

[@annejia5382]

Uuuuup

[@lamoskgr]

​@@kinanana6856Oh I'm sorry. I just realised I misspelled her name lol

[@stephenpalmer7278]

So basically, Mina bullied everyone.

[@lucinduck9684]

So sad to that similar thing (but worse) happened in 2010s with group T-ara.. that group was like rival to GG (girl’s generation) and that group literally went ashes after false allegations of bullying. Also the thing about historical person incident was that it’s impossible to not know who he is bc he’s considered as “hero” of Korea and he’s very. Very. Respected by Koreans and what they called him was kinda Japanese and he fought against Japan so it was very insulting to many Koreans..:(

[@minstantgram]

I'm glad to have come by your comment because I was going to comment to see if Stephanie can talk about the bullying accusations with T-ara in a future video.. because I remember that scandal just completely ruined them, which sucked because they were amazing.

[@vibes4011]

I love t-ara 😢

[@Hello-pg8jr]

T-ARA, yes. I remember how the members explained when the bullying scandal was taking place one of the members (I think soyeon) got into a car accident and the girls noticed a comment saying “she should’ve died in the crash”. It frustrates me to see the group still get bashed when really they were the actual victims.

[@p1kkuma]

@@Hello-pg8jr you remembered correctly about soyeon's car accident! it's terrible... they got so boycotted by the general public. i can't imagine how they felt at the time.

[@beyivy691]

It's the way nobody has ever learned from this. Even aftet the so-called victim turned out to be the real bully, I still see the fans immediately turn against the idols when they get accused of bullying without any real proof. Soojin from Gidle and Garam from Lesserafim were also victims of false accusations that cost them their career. It's sad how easy it is to ruin a kpop idol's career nowadays, you saw one of you classmates debut in a famous group, you're jealous and BAM hit them with a bullying accusation to ruin their career forever.

[@s.s2510.]

I think the reason they don't learn is because each time it's a new generation and they learn their own way.

[@KimJongUnnie]

@@s.s2510.it’s because they don’t care, it doesn’t affect them

[@Susumiyahh]

Garam and Soojin deserved so much more :(

[@lucca9896]

Actually the victim's lawyer revealed a document that confirmed the grade 5 sanction of the educational center against Garam

[@yenohchorbz]

I love AOA so this scandal was really devastating. Jimin was slut shamed and never got an apology. It completely changed all of the remaining member's lives and career too.

[@NahhaniLacasse]

as someone with borderline personality disorder myself, Mina shows a lot of characteristics of a type of it, not an excuse, but it offers insight into her behaviour

[@Lizelbanuelos123]

i was thinking this she sounds like she has bpd

[@MissSC101]

i was thinking that since she first started posted her breakdowns online (i also have bpd) but then when i heard what the managers and staff had to say about how horrible she always was made me think it has to be Narcissistic behaviour disorder. Bpd isn't that consistent for her to always be horrible, they would of said that sometimes she was nice and other times she was awful. Hope one day she finally gets help

[@sofiahaque7990]

no one learned from this scandal at all the kim garam scandal, skz'z woojins scandal, soojins scandal all of them got accused of bullying, were innocent and got kicked out.

[@RK-dc2es]

Mina 100% has borderline personality disorder; using self harm/suicide attempts to garner sympathy/manipulate to get your way, constantly framing yourself as the victim, frantic attempts to avoid "abandonment", vindictive behavior, seeing people as all good until they do something perceived as a slight and then seeing them as all bad, jumping from relationship to relationship, etc.

[@kixkicks139]

This is just insane. How far can even idols go just for attention??? Mina needed heavy psychological hospitalization for years !

[@meherunnesa2325]

2020 is also the year where so many bullying accusations suddenly came and ruined a lot kpop idol's career. I hope Stephanie can cover them!

[@choutzuyu8915]

Justice for Garam and Soojin!

[@444everyoung8]

Y’all ever feel really depressed until Steph posts, that’s how I was feeling couple days back, she’s like my sunshine❤

[@persiepony]

Ijust felt so bad for Jimin ngl she got extremely skinny after thr whole fiasco. She was literally suffering in silence.

[@neidenne7387]

Stephanie's dedication in uploading youtube videos and podcasts is so amazing. She's literally giving us everything. What a MOTHER behaviour!!! Love you so much, all the way from Philippines!

[@Baky_T]

Phillipines 😍😍😍 I LOVE PHILIPPINES AND THEIR PRECIOUS PEOPLE!! Much love from Croatia 🤗🤗

[@athena6227]

I still feel bad for Jimin and Garam. I was never a big fan of le sserafim, and I didn’t follow the garam scandal until it was pretty much over. She’s only 17 though, these rumors ruined her life pretty much and she’s not even a legal adult yet. I still feel bad. I’m glad at least I haven’t bullied any kpop idol out of the industry.

[@JENNIFAFAA]

24:31 thank you for including that information. My mother passed away from stage four pancreatic cancer, only three months after her diagnosis. I dealt with a lot of horrible people that did not understand the gravity of her dying process. I still have trauma from it. It’s a terrible thing when the worst part about somebody dying is how other peoples lack of empathy can affect you

[@afrenchexo-l1418]

I'm still surprised that you didn't talk about one of the leaked conversations between Mina and Jimin where Mina literally blames Jimin again and again and she slut shamed Jimin regarding the men Jimin allegedly slept with while she said word for word "I did this for the group, Mina..." clearly insinuating that she must have prostituted herself (probably without consent) to get the sponsors for the group. This is some of the most serious and alarming information about this whole scandal but I have the impression that everyone is ignoring this part.

[@KY-jd1nl]

that's because it's not really that surprising. it's an unspoken dynamic that's happened since basically the beginning of time. sorta akin to getting PS. everyone knows it happens a lot, but there's no point in calling it out. I'd guess only idols from the biggest of companies get the privilege of being shielded from having to exchange those "favors" for opportunities, but they're not the norm. Even students of those famous high schools for idols/actresses/etc. are "used" and manipulated in a similar manner by their school authorities. that's the dark reality of show business.

[@afrenchexo-l1418]

Thta's literally normalized cause people like you don't call it out saying "there are no point mentioning it, it's normal"@@KY-jd1nl

[@nishilies9362]

I don't think everyone is ignoring that part actually. That problem in kpop needs a whole another episode to talk about . Also there are countless videos, documentaries, movies , interviews about those stuffs already. Also Jimin might not feel comfortable about it , so it's understandable why Stephanie didn't put too much info about it . Mainly because this vdo is about bullying, not forced prostitution.

[@Spooky_Spoons]

Nothing better than listening to stephanie while cleaning

[@Rubeee1]

So true

[@elyonorvallejo4318]

SO TRUE

[@missdaskeo]

All the drama aside, I don't think I'll love Lee Hyori more. Omg she's just so kind in getting Jimin under her wing. Bad things could happen if she hasnt done that.

[@cloverffield]

I love AOA and miss them so much, this entire scandal broke my heart

[@Darren0192]

As someone who was a fan of AOA since 2014 seeing this scandal take place was insane. It created long-lasting effects on all the other members who ended up being dragged into it for no reason, so please send some support to Yuna, Seolhyun, Hyejeong, Chanmi and Choa. Plus it tarnishing AOA's name as when people hear it now they associate it with the scandal as opposed to all the amazing music they released and all the hard work they put in for years

[@blee-bleep3906]

honestly since i saw them on queendom, it was sad to see that whenver AOA is mentioned, theyre now related to a bullying scandal rather than their AMAZING cover of MAMAMOO's egotistic where they performed with Drag Queens on stage. i loved seeing how close they were in the preview of them arriving at the house and practicing, it was very obv that they really did spend so much time together only for it to be twisted and dissolved by the media in a matter of days. heartbreaking

[@hilaholo6822]

And up until now, except Seolhyun, almost every member in AOA are still struggling 😢 after Queendom, AOA got their fame again but then bam, this scandal broke out. Chanmi (now Dohwa) is joined another competition, called Queendom Puzzle and it's hurt that almost everyone doesn't recognize who is she....

[@ariellep4477]

It's giving narcissism. Not being able to cope with your emotions and processing them by creating a narrative that makes other people responsible but never yourself. The gaslighting is in the victim narrative. And I'm sure being famous is very taxing on one's general health as well.

[@linar8808]

staphanie, her fiance, danda, the whole fmaily and everyone working with them, thank you so much for your hard work and always giving us quality content and making our days better. i love you guys sm keep going

[@typlim]

lol danda

[@hannahbobby2348]

​@@typlim wake up Kanye released DANDA

[@linar8808]

@@typlim AHAHAHA I DIDNT REALIZE

[@tuxedo_ri]

i forgor about DANDA im screaming lmao 💀

[@Gshkent]

I wish Jimin had posted those messages that Mina sent before the scandal started. That would’ve been proof that it was the opposite. However, she probably just wanted the drama to go away. Mina seems like an entitled brat that treated everyone like crap.

[@jayelyyn]

I heard about this while it was happening and frankly didn’t care-I didn’t know anything about AOA and nobody on my twitter tl was talking about it since I usually run in different circles. But I never (until now, seriously) heard about any resolution to what happened. Now I’m realizing though that I still came out of this scandal with a negative opinion of Jimin and having no idea who Mina is. So now, while it’s not like I have reason to like Jimin, I’m just realizing I essentially irrationally disliked her simply from the VERY SURFACE of whatever issues I managed to hear about… that’s how bad the witch hunt was. I hope I can use this realization to treat situations like this more neutrally until I hear a resolution and look into it purposefully.

[@musicalcacophony]

It was terrible. People were clipping videos of their reality show to prove her bullying. She was bullied for her rapping, her looks, everything. The only thing I have to defend myself in this, is that when she apologized, I thought she was admitting guilt and responsibility for the bullying, then I moved on before her story stopped making sense and her actions were revealed. That happens in kpop a lot tho- idols are made to apologize for things they didn't do just to save face. But I think Jimin did genuinely feel guilty for unintentionally triggering an ill person. I feel empathetic to Jimin tho because I can understand being a victim of an ill person.

[@nerovilio]

remember kids, your idols are humans. you never know who is hiding behind those perfect faces and beautiful clothes. never idolise anyone for the persona they put up

[@LS__14]

this!!!! been a kpop fan since 2012 and this is so important to know- especially to younger fans and netizens

[@cl559]

It blows my mind that there are still people who actually sides with Mina despite the fact that there is literally nothing, not a single evidence nor witness EVER SURFACE. There are, however multiple evidence of Mina's bad behavior. She needs mental health help because no matter what she's dealing with, it's not an excuse to be a bad person. I hope those who sides with Mina will never experience the pain of being publicly persecuted with no evidence at all.

[@ifpeaceexists]

This gave me chills! I worked with someone who was similar to Mina and I feel for Jimin. Someone like Mina is who i like to call the " pick me " person. They slways have to have to last say and the spotlight . Theyre truly terrifying people because they're the greatest at gaslighting. I really hope Jimin is able to get some peace and quiet for the time being. No amount of fame and money is worth sacrificing your own sanity and health for.

[@miliixcaa]

I personally do not thing she is a pick me . I just think she has some sort of illness and needs A LOT of therapy.

[@btb554]

​@@miliixcaa yeah, isn't pick me a person who put down other women in order to feel superior themselves?

[@thesevenkingswelove9554]

She's just very mentally i11 it has nothing to do with being pick me

[@Vibepikodansha]

hmm

[@tbzstan1967]

I'm honestly happy to be one of those people who called out netizens for literally bullying an alleged bully. Like? Practice what you preach first. Like it's not for us to take matters in hands

[@goober768]

have you guys noticed almost no bullying accusations in kpop have been true?

[@cherikoma7381]

exactly, and kpop stans still refuse to learn their lesson.

[@stephp3455]

I remember this scandal. It affected Jimin a lot. I remember seeing her in 2nd world a competition show for rappers showing off their vocals. She talked about her struggles and how she lost a lot of weight and had to get away with her sister.

[@TryinBin8889]

15:00 I know this video is old. But I want to say that AOA's success was stagnating at the time Mina left. Lot's of younger girl groups were debuting who were in the spotlight like TWICE and RV and IOI and PRISTIN and ITZY, and the older girl groups were starting to cool down. Since AOA wasn't doing as well as they used to, they went onto the show QUEENDOM to promote in 2019, and through this experience, REALLY connected with a lot of modern kpop fans at this time, who hadn't really known who AOA was, but respected them for being seniors but also for their talent. They would release a song on the final episode of the show called SORRY, and went on shortly after to release a comeback called 'Come see me'. Come see me charted extremely well at first, especially for how AOA had been doing for the past couple of years. Something people need to understand is Mina was one of the most popular members of AOA, which is why when the bullying scandal broke out initially, she had a LOT of support from fans. So when the group was finally doing well without her, I think along with all the other things happening to her, she couldn't handle it. She thought the group would suffer without her because of how slighted she felt, but that didn't happen. And she exploded.

[@Haegemon]

Maybe old but the comments section is as active as some MV.

[@ilumbogaula1538]

Seriously this gave me so much memories I used to be a hug fan of AoA and the song "Like a cat" and "Good Luck" ahhhh so good

[@mayi4741]

I watched one of the first videos since Jimin’s comeback and girl was TREMBLING as she performed 😭 broke my heart so much watching her bc she used to be so so so confident 😭 her rap still slaps tho. Glad to see Jimin back up and performing. 🥹

[@ferMADify]

The reason pancreatic cancer is called the "silent killer" (by doctors everywhere not just in Korea) is not just for the low survival rate. It's because it's super hard/rare to get it diagnosed at an early stage, which is basically the reason of the low survival rate. You have to be lucky and know what you're looking for. Why? Because at first you have no symptoms/pain. Unfortunately, by the time you start experiencing symptoms/pain, it normally means that it has already spread to surrounding organs. So, most of the times when people get diagnosed it's already too late. I had to find out the hard way when my dad got diagnosed with it a year ago and passed away 2,5 months after the diagnosis. We had read the statistics and we knew it was a countdown (many patients pass away 3-6 months after diagnosis).. and yet.. everything felt like it happened ridiculously fast..

[@kima_95]

Thank you for the information, sorry for your loss. May he be at peace now. 🙏🏽

[@morkawlanamk2319]

I grew up with a naccasistic grandma and what mina was doing is textbook manipulation... The way she uses suicide and selfharm for gulilty tripping is really fucked up.

[@80s_graffiti]

I lived thru the development of this lmao, it only got crazier and crazier. Really thankful that you covered this story Steph! It deserves to be told.

[@nnyaruto]

I think the problem is Mina is incredibly unstable and she doesn't want to acknowledge where she needs help.

[@jumisjam]

this scandal was a wild ass rollercoaster of a ride. i rmbr feeling so bad for Mina as a victim of bullying and then as it kept getting worse i was soooo done.

[@ks-us2rm]

😊

[@ikramosman7221]

Mina was the bully. she ruined aoa's career.

[@azunae1166]

T-ara had a bullying scandal similar to this before AOA bullying scandal was known to the public.

[@boredjecko]

1:14:42 personal time stamp because this one hit deep. Thank you Stephanie for covering this scandal!

[@idk-mr4hz]

Noooooooo 😭 Stephanie! Please don’t support Temu, there’s a reason why they have such affordable prices

[@biscuitbishh]

whattt why is temu bad?

[@ongakira]

@@biscuitbishh they use unethical labor

[@idk-mr4hz]

@@biscuitbishh and they are in no way sustainable

[@slackerlife97]

i’m also active online when this happened and i’m not even their fan, i was very concern since they’re in the same agency of CNBLUE the band i used to follow, that was a hell of chaos like i literally muted the word aoa and mina because it’s getting uncomfortable it was too much but i can still see post update about them

[@lolzhi4929]

You’d think that from the numerous bullying scandals that netizens would learn to not jump to conclusions and keep a neutral stance, but history just keep repeating itself.

[@utdiem]

Stephanie pulling through and curing my everlasting boredom, her covering K-Pop cases are just *chef's kiss*

[@HanniIndigo]

biss when i tell you i screamed when i saw the title i was so excited that you're covering one of the biggest idol bullying scandals in kpop.People should really stay neutral when it comes to cases like this but mina really fooled a LOT of fans

[@Freelancer604]

You know how some people tell you, "Dont fear beasts and monsters, fear humans." Hearing about people like this helps to illustrate why. I looked up Jimin and apparently she is back in the industry and making solo albums, good for her.

[@alexandrastelle117]

Are these songs released?

[@camsycommeca]

This and Kim Seon Ho’s case taught us all to not jump into conclusions on day 1.

[@SHINeeistheB2ST28]

As a Seonhohada (ksh fan) , this comment hit me hard. The industry almost lost a talented celeb, and we almost lost a genuine person and great actor to public opinion because of false allegations. 😭 I’m glad his case and Jimin’s case have changed the industry and taught people not to be quick to judge and jump to conclusions. We’re so glad Seon Ho is back! Looking forward to his debut movie, The Childe, premiering in June. 🥳🥳💙

[@oliviateglia8734]

Mina doesn't sound traumatize, based on staff confessions. Sound more like she has Narcissm and she chooseJimin as her scapegoat, someone to manipulate for self fulfillment. Everything they said she did sounds intentional. She is not a victim, she is a victim maker.

[@insert_smiley]

not just nearly ruined a life, she literally ruined theirs especially jimin, she ended their careers

[@portiarose6914]

unfortunately this really is a prime example of how detrimental and almost dangerous cancel culture can be. of course we can only make assumptions from what’s been put out but imo i think mina is a very disturbed individual who not only thrives, but needs attention rather it’s good or bad. i genuinely think she needs help. anyone who uses self harm as a way to gaslight or threaten someone into doing what they want is definitely someone who’s not well. my heart goes out to the true victims of this story and i do hope she gets the help she needs.

[@3piece.fan.1million]

15:58 Stephanie Soo: *Sends a warning* Also her: *Censors the word*

[@woonhakk]

the "where is my daughter" part made me feel so sad

[@mirayo7876]

Mina was so cruel, seeing jimin after all that happened all frail and hopeless was infuriating. She destroyed these young girls lives.

[@eduardos9905]

Well kpop fans repeated the same behavior with idol Kim Garam so... I dont really know if people will learn someday. That food looks amazing as always btw💞💞

[@meherunnesa2325]

On this note, I hope Stephanie can talk about April. Another girl group with almost identical situation. Though, in April's situation, Hyunjin(who accused of the members of bullying her) didn’t showed extremeness as Mina but it was bad enough for the group to disband (that was also after literally getting their breakthrough for the first time in 4 years). So the moment where they finally were able to gain popularity, is the moment they lost all because of the situation

[@lerialazariuc5923]

I watched the whole thing unfold in real time and, for some reason, I never sided with Mina not Jimin. I was a big fan of AOA even at the time and Jimin always seemed as a strict leader but supportive member. After the Dispatch transcript was released I finally had a conclusion, because there was evidence, not only allegations in a he said, she said situation. I really hoped that netizens would learn to wait for hard evidence in similar cases, but then the Garam situation happened and everything unfolded as always, no change, which is sad.

[@sarahkathleenstewart8445]

Still so sad that this killed one of my favorite girl groups :( and that it effectively killed one of my favorite idol’s (Yuna) career

[@madison4126]

im glad you're doing a vid on this bc after like a year into the drama and like 10 plot twists i was so confused

[@CarterLa_14]

Just to be clear AOA is no longer active and has no members in the group. during the peak of the scandal in 2020 jimin left AOA, FNC entertainment, and the industry in general. After her departure all other members left after there contracts expired and now has no members of the group left.