Stephen A. & JJ Redick GET HEATED over Mad Dog's Jaylen Brown max contract talk 👀 | First Take

Stephen A. & JJ Redick GET HEATED over Mad Dog's Jaylen Brown max contract talk 👀 | First Take
Stephen A. Smith, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo and JJ Redick debate whether the Boston Celtics should give Jaylen Brown a max contract.
0:00 Mad Dog says the Celtics need to make changes
1:35 JJ Redick responds to Mad Dog's take
3:00 You can't bring back the same team! - Mad Dog
6:00 Stephen A. and Mad Dog get into heated debate
7:12 JJ Redick says he deserves the max contract
10:55 Celtics best move going forward?
14:45 Miami was gonna win game 7 with or without Tatum's ankle being hurt - Mad Dog
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[@ZeroPrince15]

“The Jokic in Dallas” had me dying 😂💀

[@lakeshow5647]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dblockk522]

Same hahaha

[@giffondhall9214]

I would love that

[@uriblaketheriddimprotege]

hilarious

[@CaponeSlays]

🤣

[@adequatequality]

Stephen A: *breathes* JJ Redick: “This is what’s wrong with NBA media”

[@Asherrager]

The Warriors of Truth

[@shaundrahammond3282]

He's not wrong

[@kant5696]

@@Asherrager god forbid they hold players accountable. I get not shaming them like their career is over after the eries ends but jj likes to sugarcoat just to stay in everyone’s good graces

[@catastrophecookies6066]

😂😂😂😂 so much facts. Dude talking like Erik Spoelstra not coaching a NBA team in the finals right now

[@AlexL415]

@@kant5696 I’ve noticed the same. It’s ok to honestly assessing a player. Don’t get why it’s treated like a crime by some pundits.

[@darnellclemm135]

The look on SA and JJ’s face when he said Thompson is priceless 😂😂😂

[@quinleonard7171]

Ong 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kmax1223]

Same exact genuine reaction lol

[@brixaabrixaa3390]

He should have said derozan

[@Noahdudenumbernine]

molly saying “can you guys let him finish” is the definition of irony

[@bastianogero9609]

I can't understand this woman she keeps interrupting

[@raymondsims7042]

@@bastianogero9609 she’s gorgeous but Jesus she’s annoying

[@pranavkamath]

Molly giving Mad Dog homework on Live TV is peak ESPN First Take moment. 😭😭

[@Alex-sf9bo]

Mazzula ruined the Celtics team had no urgency in game 7 .

[@CulEdz]

Not at all. Skip vs Stephen A is the peak of ESPN First Take.

[@BijinMCMXC]

⁠@@CulEdz right lol Molly tries too hard “you work on the little list” um what 😅

[@DXAdamJensen]

It's been awhile, but we finally got a good old fashion debate between Stephen A and Mad Dog. When they go at it, it's fantastic

[@Santiago_RS]

Facts, I love me some good old First Take screaming 🤣🤣

[@tdot8645]

Mad dog sucks zero ball knowledge

[@KFBALL247]

Absolute clowns. All the screaming is super unnecessary. Sound like a bunch of loud mouth idiots. Is this really what sports shows are trending towards? Who wants to listen to these blowhards yell at each other for 10 minutes

[@rankobarensic]

New York at his finest😂

[@kyhxx]

. etc - th replies spot on ^

[@Cheif_Espada]

He’s literally about to drop 20 legit names better than Brown lmfao

[@MB-gd6be]

Not hard... he's maybe in the outside top 30

[@c.h.5510]

It's 32 teams... so, he's pretty good 😂

[@Cheif_Espada]

Na the point is MD said hes not Top 20 and SAS said name 20, and he was about to do it immediately but they stopped him at first. The first line of a paragraph isn’t always the main idea guys.

[@JohnSmith-uw4jp]

@@c.h.5510 good just not great

[@lucasamoriim5126]

I get where JJ comes from, being a former player he will never say a player "doesn't deserve a bag" but let's be real. A bad supermax deal will break a franchise, especially with the new CBA. I don't think franchises should give that kind of money to any player unless they're certain that that player can be the best player on a championship team.

[@zType2]

Lowkey, Kris Middleton would be an amazing fit in place of Brown.

[@SirGenesis206]

Exactly. JJ gives great analysis most of the time, but him refusing to hold individual players accountable does annoy me.

[@TheChessRunner]

a bad super max doesn't break a team. All supermax players are worth their money. Some are worth more than they money, but can't get it(top 10/15). It is bad 20/30million contracts that will break franchices under new CBA and will see less of those

[@user-cu7kb8gi2e]

​@@TheChessRunner they do break franchise That's why at the end of those super maxes they trade the players like Westbrook and John Wall

[@TheChessRunner]

@@user-cu7kb8gi2e an injured player and player that was traded to literally the worst fit of a team. Comparison makes no sense

[@angelocordero2]

You got mad dog just yelling about anything, Stephen A. Saying jimmy isn’t top 20, JJ in absolute disbelief of what’s being said by both, and Molly just talking in the background not being listened to 😂😂😂😂 this segment had me rolling

[@peterjacoby8019]

i thought mad dog looked the dumbest until SaS said brown is better than butler hahahahaha

[@marcelmarshall4240]

Jimmy is not top twenty. He just played a series where he disappeared for three games. That’s almost HALF the games. That’s not a good player. He is inconsistent like 95 percent of the players in this era. He has ZERO go to moves. The most overrated dude in the last decade…easily. The NBA is desperate for new stars because Bron is leaving and there will be no more after he and Curry. No one is carrying the league after them. These dudes are just not charismatic, nor do they have the CONSISTENT skill and star power.

[@TheManFromKansas]

Molly never gets listened to, she just there to look pretty, and she does that very well.

[@2TrainWakefield]

@@marcelmarshall4240Word. Giannis was supposed to be him. Giannis in a weird limbo right now in my opinion. Then Ja Morant shot himself in the foot and Zion is not built no type of way. This French guy is the next big thing apparently idk. Everyone is boring and not a star.

[@jasontyson3658]

@@marcelmarshall4240 By that logic Brown isn't top 50 because he disappears in 3/4 of Boston games in the playoffs

[@cj2k780]

That was actually a great list of 20 players better than Jaylen Brown

[@Hennyguerrero]

He missed fox and bruson 😂

[@jorge0123mj]

​@@Hennyguerreroby the time you list fox and Brunson, you'd have a legit argument about who's better out of those 3

[@ChillestSkeleton]

@@jorge0123mj I’d personally rather have both those guys over brown but thats me

[@shinekarter8426]

BI is not better

[@jorge0123mj]

@@ChillestSkeleton and i wouldn't argue with you on that. But you can make a compelling argument for listing any of those guys 1, 2, 3

[@sakthithanigai5036]

I actually agree with Mad Dog for once. Jaylen Brown hasn’t improved his game outside of his shooting from midrange at all the last 2-3 years. His handle is still poor, he still can’t playmake, and he still has a ton of lapses on defense when he’s not on ball. And his shot profile is still incredibly difficult. If I’m paying you a supermax I’m paying you on what you’ve done and what I think you’ll do. I haven’t seen anything from brown that suggests he’s gonna improve so much. Coming off that finals loss I thought he would, but tatum was the only one that came out better significantly

[@williambullard9244]

And Stephen A said the same thing about Jalen isn't a no. 1 so he doesn't deserve the max and they should trade Brown for Lillard..

[@terrickscott2151]

SMH all y’all stupid

[@stevengordon3271]

Not an argument against a sign-and-trade.

[@peat381low8]

Trade Brown for defensive guys or something like that. Boston needs some dogs that can run all day. Like Butler

[@SamUHells]

Y’all know nothing about basketball 😂

[@DuckDaPhillyFan]

Lol at JJ “He’s not gonna get to 25” 😂😂😂

[@CaptainMorgan45]

Great debate... Wednesdays on first take are always a must watch

[@mura0]

yeah that was really entertaining.

[@Alex-sf9bo]

Mazzula ruined the Celtics team had no urgency in game 7

[@jaysonsmith7264]

nothing on first take is a must watch

[@benjaminratthe9904]

​@@jaysonsmith7264 Nothing is a must watch

[@blkmind4u]

Not when Molly is on.

[@cpr467]

LET MAD DOG LIST THEM 😂

[@justinjackson5899]

Right 😅

[@reallife0728]

MOLLY WONT STFU!!!! SHE IS NAUSEATING!!!!

[@Taxman5scotty]

"Bob cousy" 😂😂

[@vante474]

That Jimmy Butler take was wild! He can't honestly sit there and say he'd take Brown over him that was bogus

[@antonquirgst2812]

long term maybe though... Butler turned 34 - Browns ten year younger

[@vante474]

@Anton Quirgst yea, but I'm pretty sure they meant in the moment. Otherwise, LeBron, KD, and Steph wouldn't be on that list

[@antonquirgst2812]

@@vante474 totally agree- but going for that max is a 5 year investment youd rather put on brown than lets say a Harden or at this stage Lebron

[@charlesjones5810]

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[@matthewlws86]

It’s an age thing and brown has potential to keep gettin better and better. Last year I had brown and Tatum neck and neck. Brown either regressed this year or Tatum got better.

[@carlmuir6880]

JJ himself said 2 similiar stars doesn't work. The argument isn't if Brown is worth it, it's if the Celtics are supposed to commit to both Brown and Tatum longterm. JJ's old argument says trade Brown for a star with a different skillset than Tatum.

[@alejandroherrera5271]

Mad Dog and SAS going at it is pure gold 😂

[@ravezjones7218]

Stephen A comparing 360 over 9 years in baseball to 300 over 5 in NBA....

[@Mrjdog304]

Exactly baseball doesn't have a salary cap

[@toptiertech7291]

His point is that the guy didn’t say “but they didn’t win anything” when they got paid

[@drugslikexanax]

Exactly comparing dollar figures when the argument is MAX contracts. Doesn’t matter if it’s 300 today & 400 in a couple years it’s still given the term max contracts so they’re argument is stupid imo

[@matzleeach]

I agreed with Mad Dod. There are 30 teams In the NBA…… with 1-3 good top players on a team. Where is Brown rank? Not top 20-25 more like 30-35. I disagree with Steve A saying Brown is rank higher than Jimmy Buckets.

[@Rafa_AISA]

@@matzleeach he’s top 25 for sure

[@scarfrake1186]

“I’ll give you 5-6 more if you let me think about it” 😭💀

[@nabeelsiddiqui5724]

This was one of the funnier segments in a while. Mad Dog is a troll😂

[@HamptonGuitars]

But he's right, paying him max (& supermax) will destroy the team's ability to sign anyone once Tatum & he get 60% of the team's payroll.

[@thesean3194]

Mad dog is the most well researched and multi sport versed critic on ESPN. Can he troll? Yes. And backs it up with stats to form his opinions. Unless you like JJ who is sensitive and cares about basketball players’ feelings.

[@marcusmclean3842]

He wasn't even trolling though lol

[@MadeMeSmile1]

Stephen A got heated this segment bc Molly called JJ Handsome….

[@swpdisciple]

😂😂😂

[@malcolm6107]

exactly hahaha

[@newagestudios408]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TGBIGBOSS]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jasonwilliams9307]

😂😂😂😂

[@atlttyl9160]

17:27 is hilarious 😂😂. He took all the energy out the room .

[@hollywoodmvp19]

I had go back to hear who he said lol. How they rolled their eyes on klay smh but be loving him when they mention warriors 😂😂😂😂.

[@ayodeleadeyanju7235]

@@hollywoodmvp19 lmaooo because Klay ain’t that guy anymore, mad dog knows nothing about basketball

[@thsu8]

I thought Mad Dog meant Tristan Thompson because there’s no possible way he could have been talking about Klay “3-19” Thompson.

[@hollywoodmvp19]

@@ayodeleadeyanju7235 so you would take brown over klay? With knowing what each can do?

[@alexfigura1871]

@@ayodeleadeyanju7235 you're right BUT Klay almost averaged a career high in points this season and has 4 rings including one last season where he was actually better than Tatum in the finals (Tatum was awful to be fair). Klay also had 300 three pointers this season the most of his career. The Warriors beat the 3 seed Kings with Klay averaging over 20 ppg in that series before being awful vs Lakers. Klay isn't that guy anymore but it's easy to see why a Casual Fan like Mad Dog can look at stats like this and make that mistake. Mad Dog doesn't know the details of basketball but he knows enough to make decent arguments at least something worth a debate. His list of 20 really wasn't that awful. It depends if you value playoff vs regular season performance. Kyrie is flat out better than Jaylen Brown if you are talking specifically playoffs and same thing Kawhi and PG13 if healthy. Brown has never had a playoff run like George did in 2021. I would also have Jalen Brunson, D'Aron Fox, and probably Zion ahead of Brown. The Zion one won't sound fair but Zion absolutely has a higher upside than Brown when healthy.

[@explosivo631ny]

I enjoyed the list off the top of the head. Good energy on the segment. The baseball and the names with the salary was great debating with.

[@tyrellleach1846]

Mad Dogg is hilarious. "Do you remember the 51 Knicks?" 😂 Nobody does bro haha

[@jpowell47]

😂😂😂

[@MB-gd6be]

That's because people tend to think sports started from 2000.

[@rankobarensic]

Lmao❤

[@BratatoChip]

@@MB-gd6beno because we aren’t 75 years old

[@riverofcustard3233]

The problem is that Tatum and Brown have similar skillsets so they don't complement each other as a duo, also the Celtics offense is basically ISO's and threes

[@jaytheactivist8520]

They need a PG for YEARS

[@LilMarv]

Agree , and neither can handle the ball, maybe they need to get rid of smart for a true point guard

[@DuckDaPhillyFan]

You just said EVERYTHING I’ve been saying for the last few years. It’s ISO ISO ISO. That’s it!

[@33johnuelpr]

totally the opposite of last year, they were trash shooting the 3 but they were able to jus score in the paint the whole game

[@The7thGuru]

​@DuckDaPhillyFan it wasnt with Ime. He had them tops in the league in assists from Jan 1, 2022 to his exit.

[@twotwotwo.]

The problem is that Brown and Tatum are playing PG when they are wing players, and Marcus smart isnt a true guard, they gotta give Brogdon a chance

[@johnson32]

Cs giving him a chance but he cant make it because of his injury.

[@benben8054]

Yes he was doing good until the injury

[@rhlang11]

bingo

[@OGRondo9]

They aren't and never have played point guard. Which team did you watch this year because with that comment it clearly wasn't the Boston Celtics.

[@deeshotcha2250]

The problem is they young n have room to grow n Marcus smart is our pg vet n dpoy

[@cartelnik0]

When he said “what about Thompson” and JJ gave him that “…alright”, I died lol

[@hypgmrboy1785]

When Mad Dog said “ and my favorite Kyrie” his face was hilarious hahhahaha 😂

[@narrickcuz]

It’s crazy cause Mad Dogs list was SPOT ON. Jaylen Brown has been able to play second fiddle with Tatum but he this whole post season never stepped up. He was the most consistent considering Tatum was so shakey but Brown had a horrible conference finals by his own standards. He’s a top 25 player yes but he’s not worth 300 million IF you can find better pieces. Boston relies on them two way too much

[@kevingoulet3324]

😂😂😂

[@ricolaw2293]

Facts! He ain't 1 bit wrong.

[@potheadbailey9952]

His list is invalid i heard at least 3 players who can’t see Brown yall Trollin 😂

[@mrbigrzl]

@@potheadbailey9952 who?

[@NankoRi]

@@potheadbailey9952 what 3 players precisely?

[@muradyboy934]

Problem with Boston is they don't play team basketball they always taking turns on offense,they also take way too many contested 3s

[@Alex-sf9bo]

Mazzula ruined the Celtics team had no urgency in game 7

[@Alex-sf9bo]

Brown takes so many forced contested shots instead of kicking it out

[@jonesgreen9942]

@@Alex-sf9bothat’s the offensive philosophy, the are a heavy iso offense and the head coach needs to change that, help them get easier shots also get a Real PG. But they can’t keep both too much money .. JB will be gone.

[@ETMusicPage]

Boston Hero ball is the problem

[@buttsauce123]

@@jonesgreen9942 thats the thing is theyre not supposed to be and arent until theyre struggling abd then they always regress back into that play style against the coach’s wishes. Its ridiculous and frustrating

[@ujustgotjuiced8537]

Good debate made me smile after a long day at work thanks mad dog I loved it

[@jamesdials13]

15:05 “oh my lord” lmaooooo 😂😂😂😂

[@ytcgking]

Molly improved a lot. She is no longer annoying when stopping a guest becoz she is actually onto something. Like in this case the points from everybody are made but the arguing is taking too long and she progressed the show. Her voice is still pitchy but it's not her fault that she has to talk on top of her lung all the time over screaming men. I been a long time audience and I just want to give Molly her flowers after all the heat she took

[@jeanclaudehatem1956]

Facts

[@BijinMCMXC]

She’s still annoying because she tries to play debater.

[@EmVThree]

Ehhh I disagree. There were plenty of times in this video where she went beyond moderating and tried to enter the debate, and the whole last quarter of the video I couldn’t hear anyone speak without her voice on top of everyone

[@johnoriol9016]

That was a lie

[@TheGreatWesternTrendkill]

molly focus on getting better (being silent more often) instead of hyping yourself in the comment sections

[@Jayfromthe302]

Molly was flirting with JJ right from the beginning 😂😂😂

[@blkmind4u]

JJ don't want that problem

[@ReubenJRD]

The way JJ and SAS looked at each other after Mad Dog said "what about Thompson" omg LMAOOOOO

[@Kayobracey]

Mad dog’s list was pretty solid 😂 I agree with 17-18 of em

[@BryanHo]

The problem is that the new CBA makes it even harder to keep two max players on the same team. You no longer have the loopholes and roster flexibility to improve your team in any significant way. If you're going to tie your teams future to two max players, you have to make sure they both are really elite players. Tatum probably fits the bill but Jaylen clearly falls short.

[@hdeodh]

agreed, they implemented a hard cap without calling it a hard cap. As it stands, some of the best teams in the NBA would need to be broken up.

[@hay5813]

Clearly?

[@chriswright8074]

Brown was pressure and was trying to do to much

[@AlbertoGonzalez-xn1lw]

Thats why GS is crumbling

[@abayomikelvin5153]

There should be flexibility to reward homegrown talent, at least! 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@mambamentality2417]

“Jimmy Butler, what’re you nuts?”😂😂😂😂

[@josejr.garcia2228]

This was a fun debate. Everyone having fun an no one taking things personal.

[@tylerfred7514]

The new cba is about to really change how these contracts are given out. It’s going to be hard having 2 players make up that high if a percentage of your team’s salary. There is basically a hard cap when you count all the penalties by going over the second level

[@RickLaFlaR3e]

Mad Dog Segments are always Awesome and Entertaining !!😂😂

[@ravezjones7218]

I like JJ.....but 300 mil for Brown is insane

[@kleatise52]

In 5 years this will be nothing

[@marceldwayne8491]

That's too much

[@eddiebeestraw9993]

@@kleatise52 we’re talking about right now though

[@jakekelly336]

Maybe if he wasnt turnover prone and not a playmaker I'm not paying him 300mil

[@qwertypwnown]

JJ never talks about bad about any current NBA players because he wants them to come onto his podcast.

[@tony84.]

0:12, Stephen A. and Mad Dog Russo are absolute GOLD to watch🤣😂The best and most entertaining sports debate duo of all time💯

[@QDibieYT]

Jaylen Brown isn’t worth it bc of something called the SALARY CAP.

[@michaelgray3]

Mad dog and JJ are a breath of fresh air that this show has missed since Max left

[@BijinMCMXC]

Yeah watching everyone roll their eyes and dump on Max because they didn’t respect his opinions was sooo missed.

[@michaelgray3]

@@BijinMCMXC max was right more often than Stephen A. But he did have the craziest takes at times

[@BijinMCMXC]

@@michaelgray3 He was not compatible with SAS as a debate partner. It got PAINFUL to watch how much he was disrespected on the show. It got to the point where Molly started following SAS lead and being disrespectful and dismissive of his takes too.

[@michaelgray3]

@@BijinMCMXCpersonally I think sas was the problem and still is. There’s a reason FT keep cycling people in/out. I mean JJ is great but sas already clashed heads with him too

[@BijinMCMXC]

@@michaelgray3 I don’t think SAS is not the problem lol but the fact is it’s HIS show and you cannot have someone partnering with him that he doesn’t have good chemistry with. With JJ it’s different because SAS actually respects his analysis. So I don’t see him getting him fired. The problem with Max being on the show was that it was obvious SAS literally didn’t respect the words that came out of his mouth 😂

[@marioflaco]

Wednesdays are amazing with Mad Dog 😂😂😂😂😂

[@joshhuckleby4414]

I can listen to mad dog and Stephen A argue all day pure freakin entertainment I love every minute keep it coming fellas

[@rankobarensic]

Hudson river on the background ❤

[@EJOffor]

Rare time when Mad Dog is actually correct. 5 conference finals, 3 different head coaches, it’s time to make a major shakeup to that team. JJ is suggesting the ancillary pieces but the did that already adding guys like Brogdon and Derrick White, at the end of the day they fail for the same reasons.

[@toughmunths]

They didn't fail for the same reason. Jaylen Brown balled out in the finals, it was Tatum who absolutely stunk up the joint. If he had played average, just average Boston wins that title. There are still issues prevalent from last year some of which have gotten worse but they lost their identity this year

[@EJOffor]

@@toughmunths notice the word you use.. IF… guess what it didn’t go that way, they rarely have been able to coexist at a high level in the playoffs because teams are more aggressive defensively. You don’t know for a fact that they win with Tatum playing better, hypotheticals are pointless.

[@sencillo96]

I think it was bad rotation by the coach .... he trusted more Harford then R.william , he trusted more Smart then white or Brogdon.... i think that was a big mistake .. Just bad coaching .

[@toughmunths]

@Elijah Offor They're not pointless. Everything I said has merit but they're not an absolute. I THINK Boston would've won. This is my opinion. And Jason was missing wide open shots all series, it wasn't strictly the defense. What Ifs can be a useful tool don't be so eager to dismiss the idea

[@tomanderson8094]

the team has already had way too many shakeups, you listed some of them in your comment

[@ForTheLoveOfRyne]

DOGGY IS SOOO FUNNY 😂 entertainment value goes crazy when he’s on 😂

[@Isaiahlovelace]

the silence after mad dog said Thompson had me so weak like cmon man really😭

[@idriss-289]

Hey this was pretty entertaining 😂

[@austingreen1274]

SAS thinks Jimmy Butler vs Jaylen Brown is debatable?!?!?!?! What in the literal f bro!!

[@himanshubhaskar9797]

Mad dog was cooking with the list😂😂😂😂

[@TheBlackestKnight21]

HE WASS THEY SHOULDVE LET HIM KEEP GOING CAUSE JJ WAS ABOUT TO BE WRONG😭😭😭

[@davidtamou4680]

I think this is the best episode ive seen in years! 👏🏽🖤

[@Swizzy39]

Finally understand why people is tell molly shut up🤦🏾

[@Rodricktyrone]

6:44 “The Boston Celtics don’t give out rings for losers” 😂😂😂 mad dog is hilarious 😂

[@Agent-lr4ez]

Time stamp?

[@kyler.murray4016]

@@Agent-lr4ez 6:44

[@howarddavis3517]

Mad Dog completely right💯

[@sephron17]

no way B.I goes above Jalen Brown

[@jakemelby6749]

Stephan A looking at the camera when Molly cut him off in the beginning had me deadddd

[@dpistons149]

JJ Reddicks face at 16:56 was like bro you’re crazy af Stephen A😂

[@mallurypollard7815]

16:47 so much respect to the producer that cut to JJ during SAS explaining Butler 😂😂😂That was straight up a sitcom cut 🤣🤣

[@caliposted5873]

This is one of the funniest First Take videos I’ve seen in a while.

[@Terry-xu5zu]

40 secs in 😂 molly interrupts Stephen a and he’s looking around like y’all feeling what I am 😂

[@rs3daily587]

cameraman zooms up on mad dogs tie when sas says fix your tie lol

[@mikeymaniac9229]

Stephen a tryna compare 5 year contracts to 10 year contracts is insane

[@brunodeoliveirareis3880]

The face of everybody when Stephen said JB might be better than Jimmy butler 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ejthomas8119]

I know who had a better season. That was brown

[@iquanwilliams4905]

​@@ejthomas8119 could brown have drag a team to the finals? He can't get to the rim 😂 cookies every time ....I like jb tho. But he not doing what jimmy has done lol

[@Cloudcity20]

​@@ejthomas8119 Jimmy is def better lol

[@adonissvargas4115]

@EJ Thomas I know who choked when his team was depending on him the most….that wasn’t butler 🫢

[@ejthomas8119]

@@adonissvargas4115 butler 33 on his 4th team i would hope he found a way to get it together lol Brown 6 years younger averaging 26

[@KingjafiJr_]

Lmao I love when Mad Dog and Stephen A argue 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alfredmcglothen6050]

I like Stephen A and Mad Dog’s energy. Maybe he should be Stephen A’s new co host on First Take . Imagine seeing these gentlemen go at everyday . It would be much watch TV .

[@trewilliams8411]

Mad Dog was speaking facts I don’t see jalen brown as top 25 😂😂

[@Yomomma_house]

😂

[@Steeezzzzz]

Wanna know whats funny? Hes gotten better every year & hes only 26 😂

[@Downbad9771]

He’s top 25 and I don’t like the Celtics

[@galgobond007]

I’m with Mad Dog. The Celtics got to the ECF Browns rookie year if that doesn’t define his worth to that team then I don’t know what does. No chips. No MVPs.

[@HighKickCroCop]

This was great

[@Jackson54321]

If the Celtics sign him and Tatum, they would have roughly 50-75 mil in cap for the rest of the team in 2025/2026. Letting him go for nothing would be terrible, but the Celtics are VERY close to winning a chip. Trading him for Trae or Dejounte Murray, Kat, Jalen Green, Lavine, etc would be kinda risky but could be what it takes to win it all.

[@TheKingMarkell]

The “what’s up?!” By SAS @5:19 kills me 🤣

[@OneFoursEmperor]

Stephen A had mad dog under pressure naming the list 😂😂😂😂

[@NankoRi]

Man when Mad Dog is on the show its a straight comedy. I love it.

[@Griswolddj]

Best segment in a long time lol

[@Batz130]

I actually like these top 25 debates. Great job. Makes me think and do research 😅

[@paulolima6407]

"Jokic in Dallas." 😂😂😂 Can you imagine that?

[@Dondada561]

They will win the championship every year

[@melanatedgod5337]

@@KB-TAYLOR Doncic is in Dallas to stay.

[@dannygithinji7370]

Absolutely love Stephen A going at it with Mad Dog…. And JJ adds the icing … this is icing… #1 show for a reason

[@loststoryproductions]

Nah take JJ out. He ruins it.

[@LamyFamily_]

Amazing debate

[@emoneyizhereson]

Miami Heat would be glad to take on brown. They’ll know how to use him.

[@Maxjuliann]

We need Dame more than brown he can’t play with another superstar

[@hurricanes___6982]

@@MaxjuliannI gotta disagree. We need to get younger to sustain success. & were probably the best at player development. He can learn

[@haywood0457]

@@hurricanes___6982 Not a MIA fan...LAL, but I would rather take Brown too at this point in their careers. Dame has an overall mental edge but Brown also gives a versatility defensively and I think he'll bounce back. He was actually balling last year in the Finals when JT was a no-show. He just had a really bad game 7.

[@chops34]

Bucks

[@lestershipman3039]

He ain’t going to nun of those teams doe

[@Dazzer-gx3yl]

The main thing this team needs is a true PG. Desperately need one. Maybe Brogdon can do it full time, but this is what they really need.

[@ataydecharlie]

Brogdon its not a playmaker, Marcus Smart is more of a playmaker than Brogdon is

[@nataliev.149]

They need a PG for real

[@Dazzer-gx3yl]

@@ataydecharlie he was given this role at Indiana and showed his capability. He's more of a playmaker than Smart. What's your reasons for thinking he's not?

[@djsneed98]

Great debate all had great points

[@brandancarroll6936]

This segment was excellent

[@chillwill9909]

Every great player has these type of moments in their career, it’s all about how you bounce back

[@cryptidian3530]

It's called being a choker. It's game 7 to reach the Finals, my friend, not a regular season game.

[@GameUnkasa]

True but he had his moment when they choked against LeBron, they had their "Young and bounce back" already.. Unless he having another one.

[@JKeemTV]

@@GameUnkasa choked against Bron? He was in year 2???? The Warriors were a dynasty and still Klay and Curry didn't get going till years 4 and 6 I believe, and were older.

[@GameUnkasa]

@@JKeemTV I said they, I wasn't putting it on him alone.. And yeah sometimes it happens early (like with Shaq) and sometimes it happens later (like with Bron).

[@hokage8426]

bro said jokic in Dallas 😂

[@jesusortiz3327]

I love listening to these 4 , they should be on more often together 😂

[@blue84freak]

4? Molly needs to shut up.

[@hakeemchristie5827]

Yo this was GOLD LMAOOOO

[@chanlcheker]

Yooo.. when Molly said,” you work on that lil list” and mad dog replies “ok” was hilarious

[@nickytommymancinelli8066]

Mad dog the greatest sportscaster analyzer in the history of professional sport getting played out by the black widow

[@Independent365]

THIS is why First Take is still #1 LOL!

[@don_leo_000]

best debate of the week, thanks mad dogg

[@junky32]

Great debate

[@ofelialove6482]

the question was who is the better player not whos available

[@j0epark1]

I'm usually on JJ's side, but I'm with MadDog on this one. Playoffs is where you make your money. Jaylen has come up short time and time again for him to deserve a supermax contract. You can almost argue the same for Tatum. Only players who deserve supermax is Curry, Doncic, Jokic, and Giannis. Maybe even Butler if he wins the chip.

[@Lovlee33161]

Bro. Lowkey. Butler deserves a super max just off what he did the past 4 years for Miami. Outta appreciation and respect.

[@theape6778]

Butler is such an interesting situation bc all his work is in the playoffs

[@boondockbwoy14]

How does Doncic deserve a super max?

[@EpicCoolGuy21]

@@boondockbwoy14 You are smoking crack if you don’t think Luca deserves a super max.

[@j0epark1]

@@boondockbwoy14 I don’t know if that’s a serious question, but his playoff success speaks for itself. Being able to carry a team with no other all-star caliber player to the WCF. He’s proven he is a top-3 player in the league.

[@carltonkelsey2650]

Sthephen A is so blunt !!😂😂😂 “ fix ya tie fix ya tie”

[@olimercer835]

Man this whole thing was so funny, great tv

[@anthonyallen265]

They need to debate this list

[@TheBlakkEra]

Can’t believe I’m saying this but Mad Dog is on point this morning

[@deeshotcha2250]

Crazy we need jb can’t win a championship w/o jb

[@eldio2124]

I did think that immediately after game 7. But I’m not sure now. Still think you keep Brown and Tatum together. They’ve got too close for you to blow it up. You’ve got to imagine that eventually they’ll win a ring

[@deeshotcha2250]

@@eldio2124 facts they young all greats won they first championship at 27

[@TheBlakkEra]

@@eldio2124 not mad at this take

[@gerimayawhyte154]

I'm a Celtics fan. They definitely were going to lose that game regardless of Tatum getting hurt. Tatum getting hurt should not stop the team from executing on offense and defense. They looked like they had no idea what to do: poor defensive rotations leading to wide open looks by Miami, no ball movement, no one cutting, guys just standing around behind the arc. It was horrible to watch.

[@jwarrior9986]

Honestly they need to run these guys back with a new coach. The fact that defense was horrible all year is a reflection on Coach Mazzulla. They need someone who can hold them accountable on defense and keep them disciplined on offense. The over reliance on the 3 ball is a huge Achilles heel for this team. The fact that they were the second best team was only due to the fact that they were the most talented roster this season. If they additionally had the discipline and leadership they need, they would be in the finals right now. How many times did they look like they were playing a rec league game in he playoffs? So many times, they didn't take it seriously. Mazzulla isn't good enough to take them there.

[@Goodshit2000]

They would’ve won that game with a healthy Tatum. Him going out mean Brown had to carry he’s a net negative with him and bench lineup whenever they they tell him to run the game. He doesn’t have handle, have tunnel vision and doesn’t make plays for others. And when his offense is gone, so is his defense. He benefits from Tatum getting the double and triple and box and 1 and traps defense. Brown gets the one on one and still drive to that paint with 3 guys with no plan. The min I saw Tatum got injured, I knew it was over because defense was gonna keyed on brown and we saw what happened with the turnovers. Brown is overrated and he’s a product of the Celtics system. Put brown on Houston to run that team and he’ll average double digit turnovers.

[@IanG10]

You aren’t a Celtics fan. Tatum Carrie’s the load when running the offense. You take off a huge load from Jaylen l’s shoulders and all he has to worry about is scoring

[@gerimayawhyte154]

@@jwarrior9986 Agreed. Yeah and he changed his tune from game 3 to game 7. Game 3 "It's all on me I didn't have them prepared". Game 7 "We shot 21% from three and didn't defend well but I'm proud of these guys. They're resilient". Huh? Guys a dud. He may know his X's and O's somewhat because apparently he's responsible for giving Udoka some offensive ideas that he used but the guy is not a motivator like Udoka is.

[@TonAsh242]

I’m also a Celtic fan and I actually don’t know what would’ve happened if Tatum didn’t get hurt.

[@francisdollowayii9255]

Lmao this was chaos and I love it

[@DiegoSalazar-uf1js]

This is the funniest debate in a minute....Mad Dog making a list of 20 players better than Jalen Brown😂😂😂