Stephen A. & Mad Dog Russo’s HEATED debate on Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens missing the Hall of Fame

Stephen A. & Mad Dog Russo’s HEATED debate on Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens missing the Hall of Fame
Stephen A. Smith and Mad Dog react to David Ortiz being elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame in his first year on the ballot and weigh in on Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens not being elected into the Hall of Fame.
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[@jamesjefferson3809]

This segment should be renamed “2 New Yorkers Yelling at Each Other”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brandonmoucatel9630]

Haha classic

[@bigh9884]

Steven A is annoying

[@spidaman2475]

I was about to say this lol just yelllllling. It's too early in the morning lol

[@cracked586]

Hard hat summer coming up… BING BONG

[@tonyrivas6429]

Haha! Two dudes just chatting in front of Dunkin Donuts...

[@stephonaugustin1384]

I almost thought this was a First Take throwback. I thought that was skip 😂😂

[@harrygibbs912]

🤣🤣🤣

[@zona2009]

Love it. First Take has not been the same since. Actually been watching Undisputed recent instead of First Take

[@Marlo_189]

😂😂

[@vishnupur]

Bro 😂😂😂

[@__Edub__]

@@zona2009 I think it might be the lack of a consistent host. You don't know who you're going to get.

[@undisputedshulk2148]

Need to see more mad dog and Stephen A. This is an all time segment.

[@hudsonlawrence]

totally agree. finally a match in entertainment style and experience for Stephen A

[@gabrielvazquez1691]

For that to happen ESPN would need to make what’s called a good decision. Two decades ago they would. Now, tbd

[@sush139]

It is! It is!

[@thorndavidvideos]

100% in agreement, that was awesome!

[@akmo7766]

AGREED!! they make a GREAT TEAM!!

[@WrestlingIsReal649]

No way Barry bonds ain’t in the Hall of fame but the Astors still have there World Series rings smh 😭😭😭

[@Jojo7190_]

I’m not even a baseball fan, and I was wondering like did they forget about that?😭

[@dnice4145]

Baseball applies a moral standard when it suits them.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Ok what about Garrit cole should he be inducted in the hall of fame because of spider tack

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Jose altuve shouldn’t be in the hall of fame

[@jovanimalickMiller0401]

🤦

[@JS121]

Literally cannot make out a single word from the two of them. All time classic clip

[@danielwest9955]

This is without hyperbole one of the greatest crossovers of all time.

[@AngeloBx]

REAL NEW YORK TALK

[@sush139]

My point exactly! This is WWE level entertainment….so messed up and yet so riveting.

[@worldisfilledb]

You idiots using that word wrong lol morons 😂

[@1ZosoLZ]

You lames didn’t watch first take in it’s prime in 2011-2014. It was like this every day and without annoying ppl like Molly

[@ireneuszskica558]

Lmao Stephen A finally found skips long lost brother

[@adriansmith5279]

For reals. Is like Mad Dog is Skip Bayless Twin Brother from another Dimension!

[@knight9k]

Yep!

[@SantosPhillipCarlo]

What does that make Stephen A, black Mike Francesa?

[@bigh9884]

Skip Bayless never screamed as much as Russo

[@jeremygosu6216]

I would argue mad dog is crazier, lol

[@rell_5000]

7x MVP, 8x Golden Glove, 40-40 club. 500 homers and 500 stolen bases smh. The man would see one pitch a game and still send it. Try as they might, it's IMPOSSIBLE to wipe Barry Bonds from the history of the game...

[@YaBoyyJohnNBA]

Never though I'd see a Mad Dog Russo and Stephen A Smith debate LMAO. Btw Barry Bonds should be in the HOF

[@lk5388]

As far as i'm concerned. The baseball hall of fame is fraudulent. Writers put emotion over merit for their consideration. The entire voting criteria needs to be changed, with the writers excluded entirely. Let the hall alumni conduct all their voting.

[@Ruouiji]

Wrong.

[@FGPlus]

Mlb is a mess

[@YaBoyyJohnNBA]

@@lk5388 TALK ‼️

[@billysummers1616]

Bonds cheated. To have that big of an unfair advantage isn't fair to the other players, tarnishes the integrity of the game, and alters the record books to inaccurate numbers. Should be 0 tolerance for cheating, all the Astros should be banned too, and let's see if anyone goes onto cheat in the future.

[@raeedbrown8532]

Barry bonds was the best player in baseball for years before the steroid accusation

[@PPM209]

Exactly….. he didnt need steroids

[@ericdraven8784]

@@PPM209 so why'd he use steroids then??? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@PPM209]

@@ericdraven8784 thats the point im making idiot

[@ericdraven8784]

@@PPM209 that's not answering the question, idiot!! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@PPM209]

@@ericdraven8784 😈

[@auburnmann3630]

Two New Yorkers arguing over baseball ( or sports in general) rarely gets old

[@Ruouiji]

It gets old fast to those of us who (thankfully) arent' NYer's! LOL

[@yasinrahim7766]

@@Ruouiji nah I love it two people arguing over something they both have a love and passion for

[@ThePatman1980]

Barry Bonds would've still been in the HoF without steroids. He was a blue-blood of the sport. A child prodigy like Mozart. His godfather was Willie Mays, who many consider a top 5 legendary baseball player.

[@MrFooliofocker]

He didn’t need the home run record to be a Hall of Famer. That’s what most of these writers don’t understand.

[@dustindover4988]

He wouldn't be the Home run leader tho. All these records he broke should have a * next to them

[@dustindover4988]

@@MrFooliofocker he would've never broke Hank Record. He needed 100 home runs in those last few years to beat the record. You can't tell me steroids didn't help him hit those home runs to catch the record

[@MrFooliofocker]

@@dustindover4988 you are missing the point. Even without the record, he deserves to be in the HOF.

[@HamAndCheeze]

His cousin was Reggie Jackson

[@juicelord4792]

Stephen A. Is right in this one. I don’t agree with hardly anything he’s been saying these past few years but this is spot on. Baseball benefited immensely from Bonds and other PED accused stars. Now we want to act like they don’t exist??? Even in Bonds case, he was a HOF caliber player before the scandal really took over the sport.

[@wook1990]

@@PPM209 And yet you just moved the goal post to try and make your argument.

[@joeyportia6476]

@@PPM209 They already did. Ortiz is in. And hate to break it to you, majority of the players in the HOF were likely using, too.

[@ThomasCrovvn]

@@PPM209 they did for Ortiz

[@christopherantoine9657]

They can let Barry have the records, but not the glory of ending his baseball legacy where it belongs. It seems like the MLB is trying to erase the steroid era and make it seem like it never existed

[@leemarvin5738]

I agree with SAS too. Papi tested positive and Bonds and Clemens were HOFers way before the steriod stink. A Pete Rose didn't bet on baseball so all should be in. What's good for the goose.....

[@tyty4525]

Molly ruins everything like everything she’s the most insufferable person in sports media

[@mrjdbrn]

I thought it was just me

[@allannixon5113]

Please get rid of her and give the job to charlie that filled in for her I can't remember her last name

[@SarignCleric]

@@allannixon5113 Charliey Caruso, former "reporter" for WWE

[@cobrakainevereverdies6940]

*If she was Black, she'd be the Queen of all QUEENS* STOP IT !!!!

[@jaywashington8381]

@@cobrakainevereverdies6940 naw a annoying women is annoying no matter the race.

[@rondevincenzo6327]

This is ridiculous, they allow sports writers to hold a vendetta against great players (bonds and clements) who never tested positive but then allow others in who were also mentioned in those ped reports. Take the vote away from the writers and give it to the players! Big papi is great and deserves to get in but this sucks.

[@lk5388]

Its because the writers were never great. They are petty, vindictive and fallow.

[@cliffordfernandez3524]

@@lk5388 they’re pathetic never was’ Sports writers r nothing MOre than opinion makers like the rest of us who get paid to write high school to college level essays That’s it They’re not important Nobody reads their bs anymore anyway n nobody knows who they are

[@paleo704]

Big Papi was in the Mitchell Report. The media has lost all credibility

[@liarzdice]

It's because Bonds and Clements weren't friendly with media. Hall of fame at this point means nothing to me. Might as well be on par with the home run derby.

[@maxmx767]

You kind of have a point on this except on the part where you try to deny Bonds and Clemens used steroids Bonds actually got indicted when his name came up into the BALCO investigation while his trainer also did jail time because he refused to testify against Bonds. I believe Bonds used steroids but MLB was complicit He should be in the HOF MLB should admit they knew player were using PEDs

[@raynorferguson5434]

If Bonds was a " Media Darling" he would already be in the HOF. The man is arguably the GOAT

[@oscarthegrouch4574]

Cause he’s a cheater

[@daiviera9569]

Goats don’t cheat. Sorry bonds don’t deserve it. Nor does sosa or McGwire.

[@jeffsullivan4150]

@@daiviera9569 ....and David Ortiz? What about him?

[@themaskedmet3097]

@@oscarthegrouch4574 Gimme a break.... ..In a league were probably 50% of players were cheating Bonds was Clearly the BEST nobody else juicing was anywhere near him.........

[@oscarthegrouch4574]

@@themaskedmet3097 cry some more

[@djarmstrong4099]

1. Bonds was already on route with his play to have HOF numbers long before any use. 2. The only thing they really have against Bonds was his size difference from the beginning of his career to the end of it. 3. If you already have known steroid users in the HOF and you’re letting other players in who have failed actual testing no reason to keep him out

[@manleystax8142]

u gave his first dose? smh

[@David-lf6rr]

it’s more of the fact that he kind of ruined baseball history. if he would’ve just got 50 homers a year and didn’t touch aaron’s records, he probably would’ve got in. he shattered every record and has kind of taken away the mystique of baseball

[@djarmstrong4099]

@@David-lf6rr if you really look at his numbers it wasn’t no crazy jump throughout his career if his numbers dropped his walks went up but pretty much he was a constant player. If you go and look at his Padres days and his early giants days you could s e if he really put effort into it he was going to break records. That’s why it’s so outrageous that he’s not in when he should have been a first ballot he had no wild spike or a crazy fall off in his bad years he either was hurt most of that year or he had hella walks because nobody was pitching to him

[@David-lf6rr]

@@djarmstrong4099 but it’s indisputable that he doesn’t break the all time home run records without steroids, that’s the point

[@twoodbeats]

DJ can you tell me who is in the Hall that we know that is linked to PEDs? Not trolling, I am genuinely curious in the answer you give

[@christopherpryor4055]

The best argument Stephen A Smith has made in a long time.

[@goldenchild7242]

Str8 facts

[@thanos2727]

The same writers who voted bonds to win MVPs and on all time great decade and century teams... are the same ones who now keep him out of the HOF . The hypocrisy is mind boggling

[@-XKHAN-]

Can you write MLB without mentioning Bonds an Clemens?? Absolutely Not!! Hall of Famers

[@user-dz4ty5tj7q]

You can

[@trevmac8362]

Bonds would have bankrupted The Hall by getting in.. It would cost a fortune to make a Bronze steroid head that size

[@mark84g5]

Barry Bonds was an amazing player with or without the steriods

[@wilrob53]

Couldn't agree more...he has the best plate discipline of all time, didn't swing at a pitch until he got one he was looking for. Steroids can't help with that.

[@elitekingsclash7140]

The true GOAT

[@kloften6792]

The Caped Crusader - Exactly, Bonds continued to hit home runs after he quit using.

[@Ruouiji]

But he had never hit more than 49 hrs in a year, before them!

[@Nighthawk-8050]

Agree the reason why Barry bonds is not in the Hall of Fame because of his personality towards the media

[@Wil_Dasovich]

Stephen A speaking facts tho

[@billysummers1616]

They cheated, it gives the players now the green light to use steroids to inflate their numbers and get in the HOF. The only way to stop cheating is for 0 tolerance, the records mean nothing now, it's the equivalent of transgender males shattering girls records because they have testosterone/male genetics. Everyone should use steroids if it's just a fine/suspension.....

[@briansanders1926]

Everybody was on something. You cant just ignore an era of the game that basically saved the league.

[@david.draper]

The World needs a Mad Dog Russo and Stephen A Show!

[@diaclethian1]

exactly

[@Ruouiji]

No it doesn't. We have enough talking heads as it is!

[@themaskedmet3097]

Bonds went from a HOF player to a Baseball GOD when he used......If you threw a pitch to him in the strike zone, He was going to either hit it over the fence or make hard Contanct somewhere.....That level of dominance will never be seen again, and had never been seen before......

[@mariocisneros911]

Hey he stood on top of the plate with plastic armour. That alone isn't a level field for the pitcher.others before and after didnt do that. He cheated to get more hits and homers

[@themaskedmet3097]

@@mariocisneros911 Bonds is the only guy in Mlb history to crowd the plate?? Give me a break..........Also that's not his problem, If a pitcher didn't like were he was standing they had every opportunity to throw one up n In n back him off......

[@mariocisneros911]

@@themaskedmet3097 the umpire would have kick the pitcher out after Bonds made an uproar. The opposition would have lost that pitcher

[@ken2win671]

The team injected him with so much fluid that how he suppose to know what’s in his body. They set this guy up form the get go

[@themaskedmet3097]

@@mariocisneros911 The fact of the Matter is......Bonds is SOOOO much better then any of his piers u can come up with excuses all day.....He completely outplayed the rest of the field, I honestly don't care if he "Wore body armor" everyone had the opportunity to do that, and at that time a bunch of guys did.....You can come up with 1000 excuses why he was so good.......Steroids, Everybody else did them to.....Body Armour, Everybody else could of warn it if they wanted too......The guy still got on base at a freaking 550. Clip......Nobody was even CLOSE to that, With the same exact advantages bonds had

[@patrickneblett4049]

I love it when first take talk about baseball and other sports rather than the laker 99% of the time.

[@TheInferno0099]

This is exactly how I imagined an argument between Stephen a smith and Russo to go

[@bigh9884]

Screaming over each other to get a word in.

[@bengiey2k]

Barry Bonds does not have to be in the HOF to be remembered forever as one of the greatest baseball players with or without PED.

[@Osideous]

true, but Barry Bonds deservers to be in the HOF. the HOF is fraudulent now.

[@thunderousooner527]

@@Osideous very true because of Frank Thomas Mike Piazza pugs Rodriguez Jeff Bagwell and Big Papi were PED users. Those players should never be in the Hall of Fame..

[@jmar5127]

All Baseball did by not letting Bonds in is make him bigger than every Hall of fame convo, Inductions etc forever

[@flame-sky7148]

That’s it in a nutshell!

[@hnic9181]

Facts!

[@InvestBetter.]

You can't tell the history of elite major league baseball players without featuring Bonds and Clemens He didn't fail any drug test. He didn't sign any document, excluding him from The Hall The writers who vote, and The Hall of Fame aren't doing their job if they don't include the best players On their plaques, make the case, both ways, the good and the bad, but let the fan make the final judgement.

[@lagosfury5142]

Your HEAD does not grow like that ....other things on your body can get bigger..but not your head,THAT size in 15 years..it just doesnt happen

[@jemelmoore7329]

Get Molly outta here

[@Rezzylite]

Jalen Rose said the same thing

[@dukedematteo1995]

This is the question to ask Russo.....Did you have a clearly elucidated "steroids = No Hall" standard in say 1999 or 2000? The answer for every voting sportswriter is No. You can't retroactively apply it 7 years after the fact. Rules, laws and norms typically don't function that way. They should be in.

[@stephenscott8632]

Great point...

[@rickbrenner6079]

Exactly!!!

[@flame-sky7148]

That’s actually what it’s all about.

[@JOKICisdGOAT]

Well some time things go on that the consequences are not known of. Maybe in 99 or 00’ they weren’t aware of the level of use steroids were being taken at and they didn’t fully understand the advantages gained by them. Maybe some professionals and scientists but I can assure you the public didn’t understand the science behind them like they do now because of continued education on the matter. It’s kind of like cigarettes they put into place everyone could do it at first heck there wasn’t even age restrictions in the beginning but as time goes and more data is collected and processed the truth about the substance come to light and so Congress takes steps to right there wrongs. Maybe baseball saw the unfair advantage that a lot of individuals were taking the positions of very promising young talented players who stayed natural. being surpassed not by hardwork or years of dedication to a craft but rather by individuals who decided to put a substance into their body with long term Heath impacts and they couldn’t keep up because they refused to tear there body down. It’s a difficult situation. I love bonds and Sosa! But until we got honest and do a one place standard system across the board for those to get in and base it just off of the level of play on the diamond a player put up I can’t support it because the biggest tragedy the hall of fame has ever committed still hasn’t been righted and Rose deserves to be in.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@JOKICisdGOAT the case against Rose is much stronger precisely bc of what I'm talking about. It was well known for decades that gambling on baseball would keep you out of the Hall. It was only clear to any player that steroid use (of any kind) would severely jeopardize your HOF chances in about 2004, 2005. Clemens and Bonds had no real idea what they were risking their legacy bc they can't predict the future. They had no idea people would suddenly start really caring about steroids and wanted heads to roll.

[@jamesoptics8449]

Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Pete Rose all= HALL OF FAME!!!!👍

[@seanswinton6242]

I definitely think Pete Rose deserves to be there. He never bet against a team he was managing. He was the complete baseball player and he did it without steroids.

[@brettt141]

@@seanswinton6242 cause you are an idiot and dont know that Pete Rose ACCEPTED the ban from the HOF in agreement that MLB wouldnt investigate his gambling further.

[@seanswinton6242]

@@brettt141I appreciate the immaturity of your response. Name calling a total stranger like a prepubesant child is juvenile. If doing such a thing feeds your ego and enhances your manhood, enjoy yourself. You just exposed your character to the world. My opinion on Pete Rose being in the MLB Hall Of Fame was the result of the legitimate and real work he put in with no steroids or PED's like those recently admitted or are under consideration. His stats and video speak for itself. Yes, legally he did accept the ban from baseball. Yes it is legally binding. However times change, people change, and so do opinion. Just because a ban is said to be permanent doesn't mean it has to be eternal. Like laws can be changed, bans can be lifted. I believe you can't tell the story of the Cincinnati Reds "Big Red Machine" without including Pete Rose and same goes for a sincere and true history of MLB. Remember, alcohol was once banned during Prohibition, now you are free to go and buy alcohol if you wish. I feel eventually Pete Rose will be placed in the Hall Of Fame, it will moat likely be posthumously. Especially now that sports betting has become mainstream and big business.

[@babygoat_szn2548]

Mike Piazza? Ivan Rodriguez? Jeff Bagwell? David Ortiz? HOF? But Bonds can't get it? Clemens can't get in? Arod?

[@kcrandle33]

I am NOT a fan of baseball at all, but back when Sosa, Bonds, McGwire, Griffey, and these guys were doing their thing baseball was fun to watch, and the only reason I watched was to see them hitting home runs chasing that record.

[@jtremaine23]

Yes sir! I haven't watch a game in years. It's boring to me now lol.

[@likeitornotwithmichaellane4896]

“Hold on, Molly”. 😂😂😂😂😂 The best part.

[@altonf62]

I remember MLB was riding on Bond, and Sosa was smashing those HR. Baseball ratings were trash before then and MLB knew it but ignore it because of the rating. But it is what it is. Hypocrisy at it finest.

[@tonykiriakidis5219]

It was never bonds and Sosa. It was Mark McGuire and Sosa. Bonds steroid season came after the epic steroid seasons of Big Mac and Sosa

[@trevmac8362]

Give me a WS game 7 - 10 inning complete game 1-0 shutout *JACK MORRIS* over steroid regular season HR's by Sosa or McGuire any day

[@mical2great]

@@trevmac8362 your a HUGE reason why baseball boring...nobody wanna watch a 2 hour game for 1 score and good pitching. Just like nobody wanna see a 3-6 defensive game in football

[@cortezwatson9212]

@@tonykiriakidis5219 bonds was better than them every season

[@MrFooliofocker]

Russo never agreed with Bonds being in. I remember calling his radio show 14 years ago and he shut me down immediately. But there’s no question Bonds should get in. If not the inconsistencies in the process, look at the numbers alone. And I’m not even talking about the Home Run Record.

[@lordoz2578]

ESPN needs to hire mad dog. He and Sas are perfect for each other

[@gregorycostello6377]

mad dog is the best

[@yungstarz13]

Most NY conversation I've ever heard feels like a spike lee movie

[@SantosPhillipCarlo]

Only thing missing: Mike Francesa! Of course, love this as it is too.

[@-C.S.R]

Who else wants the mad dog Stephen A. Smith show?!?

[@mathewsbusiness1263]

Molly talks too much and her voice is whiny/annoying! 😫

[@lonnienguyen]

But she is great to look at.

[@blkmind4u]

@@lonnienguyen barely

[@mathewsbusiness1263]

@@lonnienguyen yeah she is fine though 💯

[@dking2ushawty21]

Man, I wanna see more of this. Everytime one makes a good point the other one comes back and makes a better point. 🤯🤯

[@andrewturner7615]

Did they really just bring a Skip Bayless Look a Like for ratings??!?!! 😂😂, ESPN never fails

[@stephonaugustin1384]

Lmaoo

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

No it’s Chris Russo

[@gregorycostello6377]

chris russo is a legend and skip is a moron

[@100spurs]

Don’t disrespect Russo like that. He’s been in the game for awhile.

[@TheGENeralsoldier]

Stephen a found his new skip lmao

[@shaund823]

Some players used PEDs in that era, some used cocaine in the 80’s, some used pinetar or other substances to help, some bet on the game and some stole signs with video cameras. Baseball is one of the few sports where some elements of cheating or asterisk necessity are prevalent throughout its history. There is the moral argument for people that did it the right way but without the asterisk they seem to be losing history as for example the hits leader and home run leader are not in the hall of fame. Not to mention at that time due to the standards of the league it is virtually impossible to prove who did or didn’t break the rules. Sure Ortiz gets away with a potential positive test but who knows if that was an isolated incident;( I think of it like drinking and driving; it’s illegal and yet it often occurs and is done by more than are willing to admit it, just because you only got caught once or have yet t be caught does not invalidate that possibility). So I feel it should be treated as we assume the worst and judge from there allowing for asterisk to help explain the history and then allow the development of the game to show how it progressed.

[@Xenlacasa45]

Ortiz continued to play for many more years well after the steroid era and produced great numbers. Cano got busted melky Cabrera got busted and suspended Ortiz did not.

[@shaund823]

@@Xenlacasa45 and many people viewed Barry Bonds as a hall of famer before any steroid use was alleged. The true thing is no one will ever know if and when on any of the allegations. Extremely unlikely but hypothetically one of the notable steroid scandal players could be telling the truth; I doubt it but that possibility exist because of the lackluster handling of testing by MLB and the fact we are not omniscient. My main point was that because of this; anyone associated with such allegations should be treated equally because they don’t really know who was or wasnt connected to PEDs from that era. I would be willing to bet that there was countless others that never were caught or lacked the natural abilities that some of these people had to be superstars even with PEDs and the fact that juicing doesn’t just equate to HRs automatically.

[@Xenlacasa45]

@@shaund823 Idk man sounds like a hate campaign against Ortiz. Nobody would have said anything if Ortiz got it last year or any other year. He played well after the steroid era at a high level hitting over .300. In a era where cano melky Cabrera etc it was the testing era they got caught Ortiz never tested positive if he was on the juice he would’ve got caught

[@terencewright9972]

I enjoyed this debate between Screaming A & Mad Dog Russo

[@JoseMarquez-wz3fr]

If mike piazza made it in the hall of fame then they should as well… There only gonna let the ones they like in the hall of fame…

[@Xenlacasa45]

Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

[@TheCloudyminded]

I seen Bonds run from one side of the field to the other and jump over the wall to catch a home run ball. It’s was amazing!

[@angelhd7446]

Now yall want to talk MLB? Yall forgot to talk about the 2021 World Series. 😆

[@zona2009]

First Take talk about baseball??? Love it. Something other than basketball

[@MrLoddyDoddy]

Barry is the greatest baseball of all time. Keep the records if you want to

[@reallifelebowski4732]

*ZERO RINGS* and horrendous in the playoffs -- Sub standard fielder --- not even close

[@mr.pudding51]

Finally, a calm, sensible discussion about Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens.

[@sergastarita371]

I thought that was skip bruh

[@Xenlacasa45]

This is great mad dog knows baseball and can keep up with Stephens energy

[@tony84.]

5:15 What a great spot! More Mad Dog debating Stephen A. This was fun.

[@nujabeez6573]

I hear this type of arguments when I go to the barbershop lol

[@quincyjohnsonii]

Stephen A.: I'm yelling! Mad Dog: I'm yelling too! Molly: I'm gonna yell stuff, but only while you're both yelling stuff.

[@pcharl01]

Did Bonds ever test positive? I thought the only thing that linked him was sealed testimony that leaked about him taking the clear or cream on accident?

[@malikq2115]

especially since Ortiz tested positive for steroids smh

[@vincew4297]

No he never tested positive, which makes this whole thing even more of travesty

[@whitenoisejack]

No, he actually did test positive. Twice. That came out in the federal indictment that was unsealed in 2007. They had a positive test on him from November 2000, the year he jacked 49 HRs.

[@vincew4297]

@@whitenoisejack I’ve read differently that it was HGH in his system not steroids, either way there are many players like Mike Piazza, Jeff Bagwell, and obviously big Papi that failed and are still in the HOF

[@whitenoisejack]

@@vincew4297 Oh you're right, so many of those guys were doping. I'm sure if Barry had been on better terms with the media, he may have gotten in. But yeah, according to the federal indictment, it was anabolic steroids. The indictment says this: "During the criminal investigation, evidence was obtained including positive tests for the presence of anabolic steroids and other performance-enhancing substances for Bonds and other professional athletes." So it sounds like it was anabolic and other substances. And then in 2003 he was shown, in court, positive tests for anabolic steroids. Great player either way, but yeah, that whole era is tainted with that stuff. I have to admit though, in 1998, I watched every McGwire/Sosa homerun with rapt attention!

[@aljm81]

Mad dog was getting his flow toward the middle and end. I hope he makes more appearances.

[@ddsmagic2806]

They need Mad Dog Russo more

[@Joseph-lz5er]

Unfortunately they don't talk about baseball on this show.

[@nathanabraham7416]

David Ortiz tested positive for PEDs and still was first ballot. This is blackballing at its finest

[@alaskaguyd963]

No, he didn't.

[@LandoLove8]

@@alaskaguyd963 yes he did

[@lloydbonafide3398]

@@LandoLove8 isnt something as simple as Adderall considered PED? Richard Sherman got tested for peds and thats what it was.

[@LandoLove8]

@@lloydbonafide3398 yes but he didn't test for Adderall. He tested for steroids. There's no justification behind letting Ortiz in and not Bonds. Especially since Bonds never actually tested positive se just all know

[@Acast009]

The issue with PED banning rule is there seems to be one rule for Bonds and others while other people who were caught are not held to the same rule because they cried in a news conference afterwards. There is no go consistent standard which is an example of why baseball sucks now and all never reach the levels it did during that era.

[@Xenlacasa45]

Baseball sucks to you but those that love baseball are in for a treat with Vladamir Guererro jr a natural modern day bonds

[@ThePimpn22]

Am I missing something , Barry Bonds was accused but never proven right ?

[@whitenoisejack]

No, actually the feds had two positive PED tests on him. That came out in the federal indictment in 2007.

[@MikeB-mo1tk]

He admitted to using "The clear" but said he didn't know it was roids

[@whitenoisejack]

@@MikeB-mo1tk That's true. And I just can't see any reason a trainer would knowingly put anabolic steroids, a body-altering substance into a treatment and give it unknowingly to his client unless they had an agreement. So you know where I stand on Bond's knowledge of the whole thing.

[@whitenoisejack]

@@MikeB-mo1tk Which again, is pure comedy, right? Hey, I'm an elite athlete making 11 million per year. I'm going to hire you as my personal trainer and you can put WHATEVER you want into my body. You think LeBron or Brady would allow that? Nah, Bonds lied in court about not knowing what it was because they gave him immunity before he testified, so he couldn't be prosecuted for lying. I mean, I get it, professional athletes' contracts are tied to financial incentives. And MLB had banned steroids in 1991, but for some STRANGE reason (ticket sales) weren't testing for them until 2003. Go figure.

[@cbfbmc]

Than u wonder why people are turn off the these sports shows.9 yrs these writers sitting on there high horse not voting for bonds and Clemens yr 10 have a change of heart.

[@carlgarrett4947]

Those voters only did that to make Barry Bonds look bad. …..but they just made the Hall Of Fame look bad , by not having baseballs home run leader not in the Hall Of Fame. ….and let’s not bring up anything about morals before Jackie Robinson played

[@Xenlacasa45]

Bonds had ten years to get in and his votes actually increased drastically to over 60% compared to 30% in just 2013! Bonds simply didn’t get enough votes but more then 60% of the writers voted him in that’s more then half. Too bad you need 75%

[@ThePatman1980]

Roger Clemens needs to be in HoF for his Oscar-worthy performance as Skidmark in Kingpin (1996), the 2nd greatest bowling 🎳 movie ever behind The Big Lebowski (1998). 🤣

[@rickbrenner6079]

Ha Ha Ha:). Two of my favorite films of all time:). Kingpin (1996) and The Big Lebowski (1997). God are they classic comedies that can be watched multiple times without getting bored. I thought there was no way for the Coen Brothers to top themselves after Fargo (1996), but it only took them one more year to do so with Lebowski:) The 90s was such a great decade for films in general:)

[@mikejenkins1270]

Why is Mad Dog's mic so much lower than Stephen's?

[@lowh9330]

I'm speechless 😶, I have been waiting on this subject and I still do not know what to say about it, this is CRAZY

[@lolakusoro5336]

All the damm yelling in the morning 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ThePatman1980]

I never liked Barry Bonds' personality either like many other people who hated him, but man, he could swing a bat better than any hitter I've ever seen. What a sham. My Angels beat them in 2002 but we had to keep walking him.

[@vincew4297]

And when you guys didn’t walk him he crushed some of the furthest home runs I’ve ever seen in my life. Barry hit a homerun in that series in 9th inning with 2 outs and to this day I’m not even sure if that ball has ever hit the ground. One of the guys from the Angels dugout you could read his lips saying “that’s the furthest ball I’ve ever seen hit.”

[@BeefPapa]

I've never understood why McGwire and Sosa saved baseball in 98. I was glued to the 96 and 97 world series. Both great series with drama.

[@EightFrancs]

The baseball HOF is a mockery without Barry Bonds in it.

[@inlivingcolor...abroad6099]

Chris ‘Mad Dog’ Russo is a LEGEND in NY sports radio. They need to get Mike Francesa on there next 😂😂😂

[@Ruouiji]

That's why I never heard of him lol!

[@jwalkhooligan3597]

People like Ty Cobb are in the Hall let them in

[@flame-sky7148]

This is good stuff, heated 🔥

[@smashboogietheilladelic5740]

Rose , Bonds and Clemens need to be In there can’t forget my man Lou Whitaker too!

[@bigp74gd]

Not even a baseball guy but this was an all-time great segment.

[@elliseinhorn2219]

ESPN has HEATED in their headlines every day 🤣

[@Giustified]

I'm in favor on having a mix of past HOF inductees and fans the right to vote who goes to Cooperstown. The writers too can have a vote (along with their media peers) on what media personal get voted in right next to Bud Abbot and Lou Costello.

[@wook1990]

Two of the biggest loudmouths in sports going at it.

[@patrickgray5633]

Yes I have a headache!!!!

[@lacedricgipson4295]

First take just found their new analyst to replace Max. Also like seeing Stephen A talk about baseball for once

[@jfromthed6030]

It Would be nice to wake up every morning to watch mad dog and Stephen A on first take 💯😭

[@danielwest9955]

6 minutes was not enough. I must have more of SAS and Mad Dog

[@831farmeros2]

Bonds and Clemens belong in the ⚾️ HOF!!!! So does many more superstars from the 80s and 90s!!!

[@joynertodman9387]

Astros still have their rings and trophy yet Bonds doesn’t get elected into the hall of fame 🤣 MLB is a joke

[@Dkirk215]

Stephen A making a good a argument finally 🤣 welcome back

[@daneslayer2269]

Bonds, Sosa, Ortiz,Clemens should all be in the HOF, barnone, argument over. Go look at baseball reference, stats are off the charts.

[@jondavis9812]

If you want to say if a player used steroids they're ineligeble, I can respect the opinion but don't necesarily agree with it. But HOW ON EARTH can you have others (ortiz this year among many others) that have officially tested positive in the hall. Just makes zero sense

[@brendangilmartin4002]

Ortiz never used steroids. But ok.

[@alaskaguyd963]

Ortiz never tested positive for steroids.

[@zeno4649]

@@alaskaguyd963 yes he did... Google

[@zeno4649]

@@brendangilmartin4002 Google is your best friend smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@alaskaguyd963]

@@zeno4649 He didn't. Google

[@robertmcphaul1807]

I agree all of them should go in for the main reason because MLB knew what was going on. They did so much dirt, and no one is pointing the finger towards them. Messing with the baseball and etc. Sad that it's all about the writers and those that basically never played the game.

[@lifescope]

These two are amazing together

[@gregrapozo2436]

Politics aside as players all unanimous hall of famers.great players are never forgotten thanks for the memories that what these players want to hear from there fans wen bonds came to plate it was exciting Clemons always tough rose man luv that man

[@ThePatman1980]

The Kid, Ken Griffey Jr., is still my all-time favorite baseball player. A lefty but with the perfect swing. No hitch. The best Angel I've ever seen was Vladimir Guerrero. I didn't watch when we got Mike Trout.

[@Ruouiji]

Had Ken Griffey Jr. not gotten hurt so often, he would have easily bashed over 800 hrs! He would be the true HR King!

[@jtremaine23]

@@Ruouiji But we could also say, had Bonds not been walked so much (& a lot intentionally), he would have still had more than Griffey and remained the HR King. Even in his last year in the league & at age 43, he lead in walks.

[@marcomayorga3482]

@@jtremaine23 true

[@trevmac8362]

Vladimir Guerrero was boss

[@NinersGiantsNation]

I thought that was skip Bayless for a second!

[@hehel5163]

Bro me too lol

[@ceez8731]

These guys have chemistry. This is awesome!

[@jamaalmcphee9332]

I am so pleasantly surprised to see Mad Dog on First Take.

[@CommonNotCommon24-7]

This was loud and funny 😂😂😂

[@dejones803]

Bonds had 2 HOF careers, before and after the roids

[@tonykiriakidis5219]

And what about Clemons?? You can’t defend bonds and avoid Clemons

[@MikeB-mo1tk]

How do you know when Bonds started juicing?

[@VisualHighlights.]

I've never in First Take history have ever heard anybody call Stephen A Smith "Stevie" 😂😂😂😂

[@juliangonzalez4726]

Mad Dog & Stephen A… I miss them from the Sirius XM radio days! This could be the new Skip and Stephen A on First Take! I would love it! They both rant and yell and I’m here for it 👏🏽

[@carrain34]

Roger Maris hitting 80 mph fastballs lol and Babe Ruth was hitting 75 mph ones. 🤣