Stephen A. & PK Subban debate the TOUGHEST postseasons in sports 🍿 | First Take

PK Subban joins First Take to debate Stephen A. Smith about whether or not hockey has the best postseason in all of sports.
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[@christophgeorgey3250]

Shout out to P.K for defending the game of Hockey! He's going to help put the game on the map a lot more in the USA. I can see it's starting to pickup some steam.

[@caper087]

I hope so

[@alcoballic9593]

Hockey is definitely one the, if not the, hardest sport to play but just because it hard to play doesn’t mean it’s entertaining to watch.

[@001spring]

😅😅😂 No it's not.

[@blakeeiu]

Who is the gentleman on the right?

[@elijah.j3288]

Yes sure yadayada

[@JiKeeY202]

pk has the charisma and the potential to get hockey A real seat at the table when it comes to mainstream sports media

[@pinklady5795]

I agree!! He should definitely be an announcer!

[@Brain42637]

@@pinklady5795 I think he would be better staying with ESPN tbh. Wait til some current nba legends come onto espn. PK can help spread hockey even more and hes already friends with Lebron

[@Howdidhenotseeme]

Doesnt matter how charismatic he is if the sport isnt as popular as nfl and nba

[@Yankeesofpeople]

@@Howdidhenotseeme its not difficult get close in Nba, Revenue of Nba is 8 billion dollars, Revenue of Nhl 5.5 billion dollars, in 3 years is possible tie

[@Brain42637]

@@Howdidhenotseeme It does matter because he can bring more into the world of hockey with his charismatic self. The NHL doesnt need to be as popular as the NBA or NFL, just more popular. Theres already proof to this. Lots of people in the states rock NHL jerseys just because they look sick

[@thomasriishojgaard5677]

Subban is also right in the sense that hockey is the ultimate team sport, you cant be carried to a title by a lebron or brady you need all 4 lines plus goalie to get it done

[@deionfrancis6715]

If you really think all it takes to win in football is one player, Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders, and Dan Marino would all have rings. But they don’t because it’s absolutely a total team sport. You can heap praise on hockey but don’t diminish another sport to do so

[@jennaarmerding81]

Well the Oilers keep trying but I think we all see how that’s going 😅

[@Keegan.999]

@@jimmy_butler You don’t go to 9 Super Bowls and win 7 without the 🐐 U sound dumb Jimmy Buckets

[@BobbyP5985]

@@jimmy_butler carried*

[@NatTurnerswitBurnerz]

Wrong. A goalie can carry a team to a Stanley Cup championship. A guy named Patrick Roy did it in 1986 & 1993. Also, another goalie, JS Giguierre got the Ducks to Game 7 of the 2003 Finals. They lost, but he was so good, he was named the Conn Smythe winner (playoff MVP). A great goalie can get a team further than their talent on paper. Without excellent goaltending, you have almost no chance of willing a Cup.

[@javianjohnson8746]

NHL playoffs is so much fun to watch. As a NBA junkie, I’ve been watching the hockey postseason since 2018 and been watching every postseason since.

[@johnmarston6429]

Just a thought that someone could 3-peat in professional sports makes you interested to see tbh. Unlikely to happen now though.

[@Mjc100]

you said the same thing twice lol

[@StarFyreXXX]

as a hockey fan - dont you think NBA is kinda more exciting in the sense that you got these crazy superstars (on most NBA playoff teams) and you really get to see them (try) to shine? like watch Kawhi go nuts a few years ago with the raptors, last year Giannis, this year Steph (and the hopeful nets but that didnt wrok out), etc? im still not sure if the team element or the superstar element in some other sports wins out for excitement...

[@CS.94]

@@StarFyreXXX I'd say the excitement is situational. Competitive games and series, which the NBA has sorely lacked in recent years

[@jawick5150]

@@Mjc100 lmaooo i noticed that to , i think he got to excited writing the comment 🤣

[@mavenfrankeus7287]

"There's no out of bounds in hockey". Great quote.

[@djmc8505]

There is... the players just can't get there.

[@dillssj4373]

​@Dj Mc where?

[@djmc8505]

@@dillssj4373 The stands...The puck goes out of bounds every game. Also, the bench is out of bounds which the players are hit into often enough.

[@shootstraight91]

@@djmc8505 there's a couple of out of bounds situations in hockey but often it implied 1 or 2 players going through glasses. 😉

[@brandanfiedler9124]

There are boards instead.

[@justinschram]

I'd watch First Take more often if they do more hockey and baseball segments. Yeah, the NFL and NBA are the most popular, but they aren't the only sports out there.

[@shamargreen9020]

Yeah especially now since hockey games are on ESPN.

[@zayankanani9573]

@@jimmy_butler lol

[@wussrestbrook1200]

Do you want espn to go out of business

[@goblue193]

They’ll do baseball here and there. Mostly the Yankees though

[@DonJulio1942]

Yea but nobody really watches those sports fr

[@dannycasey]

PK is so good as a hockey analyst, I hope he does it after he hangs the skates up

[@iandhr1]

He's getting up there in years so we might not have long to wait.

[@pinklady5795]

I was thinking the same thing! Great voice! He was actually better to listen to than Screamin Smitty!

[@kreed82]

He's already hung it up as far as I am concerned

[@claude878878]

well, ur wish came true.

[@thedude3065]

sad to see his career conclude at age 33, but like he said, Hockey has a high physical demand I think he can grow the game so much more now that his voice can be heard

[@MikeSupraVr4]

First Take needs more Hockey Segments

[@JiKeeY202]

only if they can get guys like PK to talk about it

[@pinklady5795]

@@JiKeeY202 And Mark Messier

[@sharkdude8814]

I need to win the lottery. Not sure which will happen first

[@kylesyverson286]

Agree 100%! What these shows are missing is variety. Sick of hearing about NBA and NFL gossip every single hour of every episode.

[@JiKeeY202]

@@kylesyverson286 well the other major sports not getting any shine in mainstream media is soley the fault of those leauges & it's players. They have failed to market themselves! And at least in the case of baseball the product is no longer good!

[@DoctorMorpheus]

W they should do more of NHL

[@Jalen.3]

SAS shouldn’t be the one taking about it tho

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

They how have to since espn shows it

[@austinclark007]

Shocked that they're doing a hockey segment.

[@bansnabs5523]

The kllytppl media found a black to represent it that’s why

[@GoatedAtNFS]

they better, no football or basketball we don’t need to debate who’s the goat in basketball or football just put in a hockey segment. ESPN bought it out on ABC, hard to ignore it

[@eli-rt4wm]

It’s not really shocking if you think about it. The only reason there doing a hockey segment is because NFL and NBA seasons are over for right now, so they have to be forced somewhat to talk about something else.

[@np466]

They were having trouble loading the daily Lebron footage

[@rcvillapando]

I’m a basketball junkie but I have to admit hockey IS the hardest chip to win. Constant movement, constant lineup changes, constant collisions and fights are there. You better be tough to be a hockey player to endure all of that in just one game. And I like the fact that the Cup is the one and only piece of hardware that get passed around ONLY to the champions of that year. Winning it makes it even more special. P.S. Lebron, don’t touch the cup unless the champs allow you to. It’s tradition.

[@lordbeerus6182]

I don't watch hokey but it's def harder

[@Howdidhenotseeme]

Lebron doesnt care what you think

[@blackmarlin3166]

The only bad thing about hockey is only rich people can play it and people with no winter has no clue about it so people has limited access to it just like golf or tennis. Meanwhile if you have a hoop you can play basketball anywhere. That's why we love basketball everyone can play it and those who play it at the highest level are truly the best of the best on planet earth since there's no financial barrier whatsoever. Also some of the most famous basketball players grew up poor like lebron, kd, jimmy butler.

[@GJ71642]

Anyone can touch the cup. You just can’t LIFT it over your head like what Shaq, Earnie, and Kenny did.

[@TeddyParker]

@@blackmarlin3166 Yep, the only place where it is affordable (due to amount of rinks/rink competition and an abundance of used/secondhand gear) is... surprise, Canada. There are a few cities in the US where hockey is more commonplace. It's generally big in Michigan. But I don't think any program in the US comes close to the support programs provide for youth leagues in Canada. I'm sure there is some decent support/are decent programs in Russia, Sweden, and Finland as well. But particularly in the US with ridiculous income inequality gaps... It is becoming a sport for trust fund babies and that sucks.

[@bushenlongae]

As a man from Canada growing up watching a lot of sports I agree with PK 1000% the nhl is the sport where it demands a lot of your body! And not to mention the toughness of how to win the cup

[@h0llyw00dhoward7]

I remember going to a Surfs Hockey game at the Convention Center in Atlantic City (Minor League Team). That was the first time I’ve seen a live hockey game I seen a guy take a slap shot straight to the mouth ice covered in blood dropped him. Several minutes later he’s checking back in to the game. As a fan of football and basketball, I have never seen a player take a 100 mph projectile to the face get up walk it off and go back to playing. Football on ice with an NBA schedule with an MLB roster and yet this sport doesn’t get the buzz it deserves is a sports crime.

[@ethanliddle9008]

What makes that even more amazing was that was a minor league player checking back in. There's the story of Ronnie Lott(NFL) having the end of his pinkie cut off to avoid the recovery process and be able to keep suiting up. However the one I love the most is Henrik Sedin was playing overseas during the NHLs lockout. He got slashed it broke his finger. Instead of getting it fixed he had the tip cut off so he could keep playing. It was a meaningless game in a different league during a year off. Still didn't want to miss a shift

[@h0llyw00dhoward7]

@@ethanliddle9008 you can’t make this stuff up. Live in the moment and let the Battle wounds tell the story.

[@donovans6472]

@@ethanliddle9008 its called loving the game...you'll hear lot of stories like that but its all for the love of the game.......that's why they say sports bring all races together............you could a black person, an asian, indian etc, but once you start playing together the hate goes away for the moment...

[@rickygarza4801]

Joe Thornton played the entire 2016 Stanley Cup playoffs on a torn acl Tyler Seguin played with a torn labrum in the 2020 playoffs

[@sharpie12354]

I was screaming "GET'EM PK!" the whole time

[@Chetanp1445]

Its hockey, nothing else comes close, after every series ends, they’re about five or six players coming out with 3,4 injuries

[@pomerlain8924]

And we're talking injuries that require surgery. Hip surgery, knee surgery, shoulder surgery.

[@donovans6472]

and how many injuries did wayne gretzky get? injuries are caused by the way you play the game.....some guys are shot blockers,,,,some guys are enforcers,,,your injuries are defined by your style of play....eric lindros always got concussions because he skated with his head down alot based on his size he didn't fear contact until scott stevens ran into him

[@29mailliw]

I love football basketball baseball and hockey with basketball being my favorite. Hockey is by far the toughest to win because even top seeds can lose not because they are the best but because other teams can present challenges with different styles of play which can alter a series and not to mention the obvious physical play

[@AlbertWChang]

This applies to every other sport as well lol. The no1 seed Mavs lost to no8 seed warriors before

[@TYLERtheMAGGOT1]

@@AlbertWChang those teams weren't dealing with the physicality that hockey does.

[@angel-gc2dp]

never followed hockey

[@TheIceBreaker]

@@AlbertWChang That example is one of 4 8th seeds upsetting a 1st seed in the NBA's 75 year history, compared to at least a dozen times it's happened over the last 28 years alone in the NHL (I believe the number is 13 officially). Finals appearances? One 8th seed in NBA history has gotten there, compared to 4 8th seeds in the last 16 years alone in the NHL, one of which ended up winning it all. This isn't including several 7th seeds that have gotten to a Stanley Cup Final as well. Upsets in most other sports are considered outliers, whereas in the NHL, very rarely do all higher seeds advance in every round. That's why the Stanley Cup is widely considered the hardest trophy to win in all of sports. Parity in other sports have nothing on hockey.

[@SJH22]

Hockey's post season is the same as regular season games.....the game overall is low scoring...so any given night, a goalie can get hot and it's easy to have close games when the average goals scored in games is like 6 lol. Shooting percentage in the nba is usually around 50% too...If hockey goals were scored at 50%, the games would have a ton more differentiation in scoring. Baseball is the same way...it takes 1 pitcher to shutdown an entire elite offense and the games seem more intense because the scores are low

[@zoradelaney9412]

What's the difference between a 3-1 hockey score, and a 21-7 score in football? Three goals were made in hockey, three touchdowns (and 3 field goals) were made to win each respective game.

[@patrickpelletier9298]

A 3 1 hockey game could be tie game if not for a bad rebound, and then an empty net goal to end it

[@BlueCollar1212]

I love PK! This dude needs his own show

[@avengence]

We need more Subban, he seems like a smart guy. Always fun to see the players analyzing the game that they play especially hockey players.

[@stonedgodstv5408]

MORE NHL PLEASE !!

[@grimhunter2223]

Think about it this way...in the NFL they play 17 games...and the playoffs are only one loss and your out. Hockey is physical and a very long season and 7game series.

[@mr.beatsmachine]

I played competitive basketball for 15 years I could never play hockey What a dangerous and frankly scary sport The people who play it are brave and honestly somewhat crazy I think 😄😄😄

[@lancetaylor2309]

Not crazy just brave unlike the divas in nba that anyone can play lol

[@tylerdewey1970]

PK is absolutely right. Hockey is my least favorite sport but I know it’s not only the ultimate team sport, but the toughest sport to play. The fact that those guys play 82 games, constantly moving, with football physicality, is seriously insane. In terms of attractiveness Stephen A is right, but all in all the Stanley cup is EASILY the toughest trophy to win where as the Super Bowl or NBA Finals are simply the flashiest to win

[@randylahey8174]

I think it's a pretty attractive sport. It can just be tough to understand rules/concepts for beginners. People say that they have a tough time following the puck too. Growing up with the sport I never had any of these issues but I can understand where people are coming from. Honestly I don't watch as much hockey as I did when I was a kid, the only sport I follow super closely now is the NBA. Hockey will always have special place in my heart though. The Crosby/Ovechkin era was a lot of fun.

[@theycallmejakefromstatefar3395]

March Madness doesn't exist?

[@micahkiyimba8641]

The NBA Championship is HARD to win tho

[@petrusedwardjr.2598]

The Champions League trophy is the hardest to win

[@kvngdeshaun229]

i agree with everything you just said except for it being the ultimate team sport, i think football takes the cake for that. but overall hockey is underappreciated

[@Actlikemjsmith]

PK Subban is a great Ambassador for hockey. I'll check it out now and give it an honest chance

[@BSmokeyGaming]

As a huge sports fan, I would give this NOD to the NHL, considering that it's the hardest to win the championship. We already seen numerous one seed getting eliminated sooner in the Stanley Cup Playoffs. The MLB and the NFL is at the middle part of my list. The NBA as a huge fan of basketball is definitely at the bottom tier. The game is too predictable, lots of rules change, and to make matters worse ESPN/ABC already decreasing my taste of watching the game. Kudos to PK Sutton for showing up on First Take supporting the game of hockey.

[@bryson5265]

Stanley Cup hardest championship to win.

[@Acey526]

I think its the superbowl

[@bryson5265]

Na Super Bowl is only couple weeks. Also if you have a great quarterback you have a shot at the title. In hockey you can have the two best players and get swept 1st round

[@Acey526]

But you have 7 games. In the superbowl its only 1

[@rcvillapando]

@@Acey526 7 brutal games. PK is right, it’s football on skates. Speed kills.

[@Acey526]

@@rcvillapando I understand but in hockey if you lose game 1 you have game 2 in football thre is no game 2

[@tonytunes2120]

I have a whole new respect for P.K. after this interview.

[@Grillinnap]

The topic is about the toughness of professional sports. We have two guys debating. One, who played a sport professionally, and the other…never.

[@transeeyou885]

even people that dont play or watch hockey recognise that its the hardest trophy to win

[@ViewsFromTheCity]

Stephen A be trolling 😂😂 “I wouldn’t say that”

[@caper087]

A hockey segment!?!? YES 🙌 my avs blowing it out!!! Congrats to Joe Sakic and the whole team

[@BobbyP5985]

Avs will choke In the finals to Tampa just wait and see.

[@caper087]

@@BobbyP5985 this year or??? Lol

[@BobbyP5985]

@@caper087 next year buddy boy

[@hassanmccraw5905]

Love basketball and hockey! Need to talk about it more

[@patrickpelletier9298]

The fact the best regular season team rarely gets to hoist the cup shows the playoffs is brutal. You never see a team with one player being carried

[@jeffreyd6359]

0:17 Got Me Rolling Already

[@high-defRJ]

I may have the bias with hockey because it's the only sport that I got to play until high school and influenced from Slap Shot and Might Ducks movies, but when you got players in pads getting in physical like football, constantly moving in the playing surface a little bigger than basketball, and actually defense being present in the game, hockey playoffs is the toughest one. And there is no scoring system during the game that would allow more than one point on a made shot/play, so the intensity of scoring and defending seems it more tougher than other sport.

[@LookingForBucho]

It’s true that there’s nothing like playoff Hockey. But I’m giving it to the World Series Championship. Baseball is just the hardest sport overall.

[@Forceful-cu3he]

I need to see more content like this

[@bigbowss9817]

Being from Montreal, letting him go was Canadiens biggest mistake in recent years (& we've made plenty lol), always loved this guy. Football (soccer) is my favorite sport, but hockey & basketball are both close second and I cant refute anything PK said, Stanley cup is definitly the toughest trophy to win in terms of physical depend required going through 82 game season and four 7-games series. Dont know about it ultimate team sport tho, because you have 4 offensive trios & 3 defensive duos that dont play together, but I get it in terms of needing quality deep in the squad in every position to win, because 1 or 2 superstars cant get it done on their own (except maybe exceptional goalkeepers like Patrick Roy if the rest is decent)...

[@teeus766]

Weber was much better than Subban come on now

[@guyrizzo1807]

One of the dumbest comments ever, NSH lost their minds losing weber for PK. PK had flashes but was never anything to write home about. Not to mention PK is currently, and has been for the last 3 years, a top 5 worst contract in the show. Next to Erik Karlsson

[@bigbowss9817]

@@guyrizzo1807 Bad trade for both, CH was a young team not ready to win in the playoffs yet. It was better environment for PK to developp than Nashville and Webber was good short term, but we werent ready to accomplish anything short term, so its dumb trade from both sides...

[@thecaynuck4694]

I do think we won the Subban-Weber trade though and Weber seemed to play better than Subban had did after the trade. But I’d love to see Subban come back and end his career in Montreal as he spent his best years in Montreal.

[@martincote7000]

Weber has been better than PK after the trade. Wth you’re talking about?

[@davidparkin9017]

In case you didn't know. Hockey started (was invented) in Finland. Professional hockey began in the USA (Michigan). While North American style football was invented and first played in Canada, hockey is extremely popular in Canada. The first sanctioned football game was between McGill University (Montreal) and Harvard University (Boston) 1874.

[@JoeBine77]

As a montrealer, that gave me an headache. Basketball was at McGill. And the first ever Hockey game was in Montréal.

[@GoatedAtNFS]

the NHL playoffs had 5 game 7 games in the first round

[@BobbyP5985]

NBA playoffs had 6 game 7’s in the first round. What’s your point?

[@saltine_craker1387]

@@BobbyP5985 the first round in the NBA this year had 0 7 game series

[@GoatedAtNFS]

@@BobbyP5985 dummy

[@BobbyP5985]

@@GoatedAtNFS your motha

[@vicckyyy2001]

Stephan A. doesn't know a lick about hockey. Literally, the other day when ESPN tried talking about hockey, he said "The only thing I know about hockey is that the puck is black" (Yes, he said this on air)(on a separate note, ESPN sucks, they don't care about Hockey)

[@chrisdominuez1198]

Thank you PK hockey is a wonderful team sport and it absolutely is the toughest sport to win a championship it's a very demanding game to play and I love it

[@YoMrRice]

Live it's not contest. There's nothing like a love hockey game. And I grew up watching the nba. Side note, I hope we get more brothas in hockey and on television talking about the sport

[@Blessed.90]

Blessed

[@DoubleOhTheG]

Everything PK said is on point.

[@UltraViolence90]

Big facts good job pk

[@Zack_410]

NHL definitely has the best playoffs. Really no debate about it.

[@tylertheurer9122]

skating is harder and more tiring than running. That is why hockey players rotate subs in/out after 30-90 seconds.

[@KUCHcburg5]

I love hockey and I would agree that it’s the hardest to win. The only other one I would say is harder to win is baseball but not from a physicality standpoint. Baseball is just so random that anyone can win the title. For example, the Braves had the worst record in the MLB postseason and won the World Series. Additionally, Ole Miss just won the college World Series and they were the last team in the tournament

[@mariobuttino6095]

Way to go Suban,tell it to all ,especially basketball.

[@Ahmed-oc5gi]

I grew up watching and playing soccer (football), and basketball. In 1996 I watched NHL layoffs and since, I am hooked with the game of hockey. You have to be iron man to win the Stanley Cup! No other sports come close to hockey in terms of toughness..

[@MandellaJ]

Can't really argue the grueling NHL postseason. I think the Rays and Panthers had to play a back to back. But football is the ultimate team sport. U can be the best QB in the universe if u don't have a OL or a defense to stop somebody ur gonna be me when it counts.

[@bluejay7815]

You can be the best player in the world but if you don't have a Goalie who plays all 60 minutes stopping shots that vary from 60-120mph then you'll never achieve anything. See how your point means literally nothing.🤣

[@blackanimelover18]

​@@bluejay7815 the thing is the NFL requires more people to do their job than hockey does.

[@TheManWhoFlys22]

@@bluejay7815 lmao one player can score 5 goals on hockey and win the game for his team, Tom brady isn't throwing 5 tds to himself you clown 🤡🤡🤡

[@geremyroypoliquin8493]

A player on ice is everything.. offense,defence,blocking shots like a goalie.. everyone on ice is a playmaker

[@donaldleider7382]

Stephen A, needs to watch a hockey game live!

[@jackmetzger1697]

Didn’t even mention baseball. Postseason rankings are 1. Hockey 2. Baseball 3. Football 4. Basketball. Reasoning: hockey is very entertaining especially when it comes to playoffs and having great teams fight against each other. Need everyone to be at the top of the level. Many people who don’t watch baseball and understand it feel the sport is boring but in the playoffs when you have the best pitchers against the best lineups and any team can win from the 12 in the postseason is great. It feels like home advantage doesn’t even matter. Football is too similar to the regular season. No series just one game and then they move on which I get because of the physicality of football but we sometimes have seen matchups earlier in the season and there is no real difference between the two. Basketball is tedious. Games over and over again and they don’t change. Better ranked teams often win and it’s not as interesting as the other playoffs

[@Max-wd6og]

It’s actually hockey. It’s such a hard sport that has a lot of flukes.

[@timbrown9796]

Preach n I ain't a hockey fan lol.

[@bencarter8423]

There’s no question PK is right. Hockey is football on ice, with no out of bounds. Also, the hits are far more nasty because you’re on skates. The other guy could be coming at you at 30 mph.

[@user-pm3bx2ee4q]

The NHL playoffs is absolute war of attrition and the Stanley cup is awarded to the last man (or team) standing. Ask any player that’s made till the end and they’ll tell you how long it takes for their body to recover. It often spills into the next year, which is why we so rarely see back to back champs

[@user-on1ez2pn5p]

To think hockey has football physicality and plays 82 games is insane

[@mackdef475]

3:25... Molly was looking at PK like he a snack 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@ethanrobbins1997]

Respect to PK shouting out gsw.

[@LHOH197]

We need to see more of stephen a talking hockey and debating it with players or former players especially to get an education on the sport

[@NKase-vy1kf]

I hate the whole “I like hockey because of the fighting”, hockey is more than that. The fighting is to send a message. It’s to pump your brothers up. It shows that nobody touches your goalie, captain, etc. and it is a gentleman fight. Once your down, fights over and both sides appreciate the effort. Name any other sport that does that?!?!?

[@joshuamandaglio4125]

ESPN is making sure that they don’t get another hockey contract in the future

[@River87-]

We need more of P.K!

[@ryanjonsson]

Ok but hockey isnt football on ice. In football the play stops every 5 seconds and takes another 30 for it to get going again. The hits arent as hard and the game is slower. Hockey is if you took basketball, football and soccer, sped it all up 2x and then tossed it on ice.

[@sachinruparelia]

No other sports needs line changes because the players have emptied their tanks in a span of a 45 secs shift! - case closed.

[@kcsniper1243]

Anyone who has been to a hockey game and sat behind the glass knows. It is the most enjoyable live attraction in Sports. And it is definitely the hardest sport to win a championship in.

[@doraritias5415]

PK just earned my utmost respect, this dude is gonna be an ESPN superstar. Shut up Stephen

[@CD-rs2pl]

An example that hockey is s ream game is with Gretzky. He was the most dominant athlete in any sport. In his prime he was traded from the cup winning best team to the 3rd worst team in the league. They drastically improved and he took them to the finals a couple years later but never won it. A non fan would say:"they guy didn't win the cup'" but a real hockey fan realizex how impressive the teams transformation actually was

[@mackenziespence2146]

Hockey is actually the toughest sport in the world in terms of physicality and mentality

[@secundrabeasley855]

Stephen A. and PK in a hockey shoot out. Full pads. Barry Melrose is the referee.

[@sportskid7124]

We need this

[@fastpath525]

S.A. is one to talk about giving others a chance to talk!

[@jordanstreib3898]

Football used to be worse headshots ect but before that NHL 70s/80s had fighting. Now NHL has been more skilled and hard to play

[@jwilk5606]

It's rare for SAS to be outmatched. PK made Stephen recognize the importance of Hockey

[@jamaldee2355]

Hands down the nhl playoffs are like Christmas

[@_JudgeDredd]

I went skating trying hang with my white friends and I tripped over my own foot and broke my front tooth hahahahhaa. I went skating in the same rink John LeClair played in shoutout to Vermont

[@pinklady5795]

I prefer rolling skating! 😏

[@CodeFatherX]

I started watching hockey 2 years ago. Easily my favorite sport to watch now. A lot of Americans are truly missing out

[@ultrastandphoenix1883]

I've watched all 4 major north American sports since 1979 .hockey is the hardest .then nfl .then basket ball .then baseball .

[@jontineal907]

Big up PK talking absolute facts

[@Bruno2777]

Gotta love PK!!

[@robertfan332]

Subban, as the guest, should have a Shut-off-SAS's-Microphone button that he can press at will.

[@jeethha1]

If Wayne Gretzky never scored a goal, he would still be the all-time leader in points

[@petert1817]

Hockey playoffs are a war of attrition.

[@7iggie899]

You wanna bring hockey main stream? Bring whoever this dude is back on 2x3 week during the season and watch it go bonkers

[@WoodyGoBlue]

Hockey is definitely the toughest to win coming from an all around sports fan

[@jwilk5606]

Lets enjoy this moment of First Take doing a segment that isn't NBA or NFL. By Thursday, it will be NBA all the time for their draft

[@viperatech]

There is no carrying in hockey. If one line out of 4 is a weak link, if your goaltender is having an "off night"... you have no chance to win it all. None.

[@xavierhenke7230]

The unpredictable nature of the NHL also plays a huge factor. The Aves were only the fifth preseason "favored to win" team to actually do it since 1990. Seeding and home-ice mean far less than in the NBA. Only 8 presidents trophy (best record in league) winners since 1985 have also gone on to win the cup. Only two teams have repeated in the salary cap era (Penguins and Tampa Bay Lightning). Most teams can't even make it to the finals series 2 years in a row. It's not a sport where it's easy to bandwagon and latch on to the "popular team". Because the "best team" usually is not the one to go on to win it all. It's exciting because every moment on the ice is valuable. You're either shooting against a goaltender standing on his head and stopping everything, or they're Swiss cheese, but even with that you're not guaranteed a goal on every possession. It's just as much a performance of offense as it is of defense and goaltending. That's why true hockey fans get excited and cheer on the defensive plays too.

[@juliangrasso1212]

lmao that whole segment ended up being SAS turning into molly while tryna prove his hockey analysis lol 🤣🤣

[@y2k704]

if espn is smart they would hire PK as a hockey commentator or pundit

[@karnige5804]

PK oozes charisma. I want to see him have a show with stephan A

[@justicebanks]

I’m glad to see my guy pk subban talking hockey on first take and he’s right the Stanley cup is the most difficult championship to win 💯

[@MattTheDreamer7199]

That Stanley Cup is crucial.

[@davincileo5078]

Finally about hockey. After NFL , NHL is by far the most entertaining sports .

[@joshuacruz4244]

The Stanley cup is definetly the hardest championship to win. Nhl playoffs are a brutal grind. 7 games series a piece, no timeouts, no out of bounds, football on ice 20 minute periods, cannot win with 1 or 2 players full team commitment is totally required. Baseball, not even close, football closest thing basketball not as tough.

[@finallullaby659]

Pk is such a beautiful human man

[@hanslarson6297]

For a fan of all American sports the nhl playoffs are definitely the toughest playoffs.

[@libsrcrazy9634]

It’s hockey. Hockey playoffs are the pinnacle of sports. Most amazing athletes in the world.