Stephen A. vs. JJ Redick vs. Mad Dog 🍿 Nuggets-Timberwolves & Jayson Tatum criticism 🏀 | First Take

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@Phormidable3
@Phormidable3 6 ай бұрын
I'm just surprised they're talking about someone other than the Lakers and Warriors. Breath of fresh air.
@CozyLoungeShorts
@CozyLoungeShorts 6 ай бұрын
Watch an episode instead of clips
@princellasmith7562
@princellasmith7562 6 ай бұрын
But even then, they're talking about him because LeBron was talking about him on JJ's podcast. 😂😂🫠🫠🙃🙃
@jeremyarrington9427
@jeremyarrington9427 6 ай бұрын
exactly why i had to watch 😂😂😂
@donanderson6584
@donanderson6584 6 ай бұрын
LOL
@dhldt1021
@dhldt1021 6 ай бұрын
Yep, and one of these days, we’re gonna discuss what year Pistons become relevant again.
@makmatt4779
@makmatt4779 6 ай бұрын
Stephan A Smith picks and chooses when the regular season is an important factor🤦‍♂️
@HomerunsamSOSA
@HomerunsamSOSA 6 ай бұрын
Certain parts are tho
@MattTheDreamer7199
@MattTheDreamer7199 6 ай бұрын
So do we…as fans.
@jiggnorth3593
@jiggnorth3593 6 ай бұрын
It always is at this point in the season.
@astronut1728
@astronut1728 6 ай бұрын
I love mad dog for exposing “JT top 5” ahh mfs
@demedusaacademy
@demedusaacademy 6 ай бұрын
You dumb
@yengvang8737
@yengvang8737 6 ай бұрын
I mean Giannis and Jokic were criticized a lot when they were winning MVPs but were sending home in the playoffs. When they won their chips, they got their respect.
@cholmanjr8345
@cholmanjr8345 6 ай бұрын
Indeed
@334ben10
@334ben10 6 ай бұрын
Jokic didn’t get heavily criticized like Giannis or Tatum. He got the excuse of guys being hurt during those times, and Giannis only got his criticism after his 2nd MVP and losing 1-4 in the playoffs. Tatum hasn’t won a MVP the harsh judgment came a lot sooner for both.
@TargetNSA
@TargetNSA 6 ай бұрын
@@334ben10Except he didnt... He was so underrated and disrespected it was stupid... He even lost an MVP because of it. So yeah nah Jokic was abused by the media for years
@334ben10
@334ben10 6 ай бұрын
@@TargetNSAhe wasnt😂 your reply don’t even make sense showing y’all just saying stuff Jok faced the LEAST criticism out of this group BY FAR
@fredb6515
@fredb6515 6 ай бұрын
@@334ben10ur dumb , nick wright was saying jokic was the worst mvp ever , he wud have won his 3rd if Perkins didn’t make it about race ur delusional kid
@rohitrajoria8952
@rohitrajoria8952 6 ай бұрын
Tim Duncan 2nd year wins finals mvp. 5 rings, 2 mvps, 3 finals mvp, 15 time all defense. Made playoffs every year
@isaiahwest7977
@isaiahwest7977 6 ай бұрын
Tim sooo underrated
@tellsteveharveyidontwanthe2283
@tellsteveharveyidontwanthe2283 6 ай бұрын
im top 5 alltime not even a spurs fan
@imhong28
@imhong28 6 ай бұрын
I think Tatum needs to emulate Duncan's mindset and how he deals with important games when it matters. He is clearly the best player in his team and he needs to assert his dominance even in the 1st quarter like Duncan did in his earlier championship years.
@torpedospurs
@torpedospurs 6 ай бұрын
Not to mention 5th in MVP voting as a rookie, and 3rd as a sophmore.
@carlospepin7285
@carlospepin7285 6 ай бұрын
Duncan was an exception, most players need to hit the 27 & 28 years of age benchmark to win a tittle. Jordan Steph Shaq Olajuwon Etc...
@alexwilcoxx
@alexwilcoxx 6 ай бұрын
gotta be tough to go from talking to Bron to talking to Mad Dog
@mursuka80
@mursuka80 6 ай бұрын
One of these days JJ will explode on him and call him effin idiot or something.
@jllamas090
@jllamas090 6 ай бұрын
😂
@johnsnow9307
@johnsnow9307 6 ай бұрын
I agree tough to talk to someone who can barely read at a 3rd grade level lol
@codedsoul7360
@codedsoul7360 6 ай бұрын
He is right about Tatum tho
@cesarmm1
@cesarmm1 6 ай бұрын
You can tell Stephen A doesn't like JJ so much because they got that Max Keller man debate vibe going on
@nanox4
@nanox4 6 ай бұрын
Funny how when JJ is there to expose him, he's like: "Joker, the best player in basketball" lmao.
@DominicRuiz23
@DominicRuiz23 6 ай бұрын
TRUE LMAO I was surprised he said that for once
@foundationsyth9825
@foundationsyth9825 6 ай бұрын
You cannot pick Tatum over lebron in a 7 game series at any point of Tatums career.
@Serenity01871
@Serenity01871 6 ай бұрын
of course tatum is a good stat player and maybe third guy scoring wise or second but mentaly not number one
@bayareayackem100
@bayareayackem100 6 ай бұрын
Yes you can. I'd take him right now over lebron. But the other 20 years. Nah
@nicholasjohnson8428
@nicholasjohnson8428 6 ай бұрын
Even a LeBron on 1 foot last year was an elite player giving you 40 while playing every minute.. there's only 1 player you would choose over LeBron in a playoff scenario right now, and that's Jokic
@austinbailey7775
@austinbailey7775 6 ай бұрын
That’s why Tatum has accomplished far more than lebron ever did at 26 right
@foundationsyth9825
@foundationsyth9825 6 ай бұрын
@@austinbailey7775 no, LeBron accomplished more. A finals run just like Tatum, ECF appearance for both and LeBron already had an MVP. LeBron at this point was dominating the playoffs even in losses. Averaging 38/9/9 in the ECF against the Magic. LeBron was better last year on one leg than Tatum was fully healthy. It's not even close. Tatum shrinks, and LeBron gets better in big games
@walkoff2
@walkoff2 6 ай бұрын
“I love this exercise” 😂😂😂
@TheBlackSands
@TheBlackSands 6 ай бұрын
Exercise with me sweetheart I'll give you a workout 💯
@rankobarensic
@rankobarensic 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@ecolon217
@ecolon217 6 ай бұрын
Taking Embiid over Tatum in a 7 game series is outrageous considering Embiid has NEVER BEEN PAST THE SECOND ROUND. Tatum swept the floor with KD when KD was in Brooklyn Assuming health in a 7 game series for Kawhi is a risky risky proposition (same for Embiid, honestly)
@c.cfellton3105
@c.cfellton3105 6 ай бұрын
That means absolutely nothing. Embiid is a better player than Tatum. Tatum was better than an unhappy KD in BK. Tatum isn't better than either player though.
@rb9888
@rb9888 6 ай бұрын
tatum did not sweep the floor with kd. if kd played for boston, the boston would have won even more easily
@giovanysantiago5892
@giovanysantiago5892 6 ай бұрын
Didn't tatum drop 50 plus against Embid in game 7 last year, mop the floor with the 76ers.
@IBlackSanta
@IBlackSanta 6 ай бұрын
But when did they even say a 7 game series for that?? They said that about tatum or lebron. It seems like you're just changing the argument. Embiid is better than tatum right now.
@timsweeney684
@timsweeney684 6 ай бұрын
@@c.cfellton3105Tatum is better than KD right now
@isaackagboola
@isaackagboola 6 ай бұрын
Im glad they FINALLY talking about the Twolves.
@wolfiejr.5992
@wolfiejr.5992 6 ай бұрын
and ofc it's this game out of all of them 💀
@OneHandMoneyMan
@OneHandMoneyMan 6 ай бұрын
Mad Dog was spittin facts with that list, until he said it’s about the money lmao had me rolling
@beanie3427
@beanie3427 6 ай бұрын
What?? Denver has the 2nd EASIEST remaining schedule in the league. Our remaining schedule has games against Spurs x2, Grizzlies x2, Trailer Blazers, Hawks, and Jazz. Meanwhile our difficult games are coming against the Knicks, Timberwolves, and Cavaliers, all three of whom are dealing with significant injuries at the moment. Then we have two pretty tough games against the Suns and Clippers, but that's about it. Meanwhile, OKC has to play the Bucks twice, Celtics, Pelicans, Kings, and Mavericks. Their schedule is significantly more difficult than Denver's to finish out the season.
@ryanmahon1
@ryanmahon1 6 ай бұрын
Thank you was looking for this comment. It's definitely not a cake walk but it isn't nearly as hard as they said it was
@VladanMovies
@VladanMovies 6 ай бұрын
My prediction ... In remaining 12 games, Denver wins 7-9. Wolves win 7-8. In their remaining 14, OKC wins 7-9. It will be close, but to me, looks like Denver has a margin of plus 1 game over TW, but is - 0.5 under OKC, for Western top seed.
@kevinmichaelkelly1993
@kevinmichaelkelly1993 6 ай бұрын
mad dog spittin lmaoooooooo
@RIOTZ_
@RIOTZ_ 5 ай бұрын
Mad Dog cooked on that Tatum top 10 take😂😂
@ken58763
@ken58763 6 ай бұрын
Not just KAT, but Twolves were missing Gobert and Naz Reid. Missing 3 of their top 4 players and still making the game competitive was impressive.
@pathape
@pathape 6 ай бұрын
The Nuggets shorten their rotation when the playoffs hit. Jokic will also play more minutes. It's very hard for teams to compete when Jokic is on the floor. The nuggets take the twolves in 5 games again with the twolves at full strength.
@joshualightowler1610
@joshualightowler1610 5 ай бұрын
@@pathapethe Timberwolves in last years playoffs gave Denver the hardest time while extremely injured. Healthy Timberwolves this year killed Denver in their first meeting, barely won by 3 in their second meeting to an injured wolves team. They will meet again to a healthy wolves team and probably get beat out, the Timberwolves were built to go against the nuggets and are realistically the only team in the west that can beat them in a series. I’m not saying they will but the have the most potential to do so.
@noodlezworld3627
@noodlezworld3627 6 ай бұрын
Mad dogg was on point today 😂
@Gregwrestlingforlife
@Gregwrestlingforlife 6 ай бұрын
Kareem 😂
@truebrowncanadian
@truebrowncanadian 6 ай бұрын
Love hearing the MPjr love. He's a scary 3rd option and he is capable of 50-40-90. Its good hes finding his consistency
@djdarklyceum
@djdarklyceum 6 ай бұрын
Denver really are a scarier team with MPJ going from a streaky shooter to what he is now. The leap is insane.. Denver has this year wrapped up.
@nikobellic2515
@nikobellic2515 6 ай бұрын
Tatum was THE REASON he made the ECF his rookie year! Hurt Hayward, hurt Kyrie, 6ppg Jaylen, Smart and Horford.
@soufatldude700
@soufatldude700 6 ай бұрын
yh but he's underperformed in playoffs since
@bigmo3692
@bigmo3692 6 ай бұрын
@@soufatldude700 thats cap
@macattack8658
@macattack8658 6 ай бұрын
Now why you just gonna lie like this lol. Brown avg 6.6 his rookie yr while tatum was still at Duke and the celtics made the ecf with it4. Brown was the 2nd leading scorer behind kyrie his 2nd yr and if he didn't get injured first 3 mind vs the bucks rd 1 gm 7 he would've been the overall ppg leader that playoff run. He avg 18.2 to tatum 18.5 and was the leading scorer in the ecf by 2 pts. Tatum also HD Terry rozier, prime al horford ,smart, marcus morris, Baynes and probably the best coach for young talent at the time in Brad stevens.
@shiningwizard202
@shiningwizard202 6 ай бұрын
@@soufatldude7004 conference finals and a finals appearance before 25 is underperforming???
@danielrivadeneiraalvear3091
@danielrivadeneiraalvear3091 6 ай бұрын
You got a short memory
@seanmaertens8483
@seanmaertens8483 6 ай бұрын
The Wolves were home for the first time in 2 weeks, on the 2nd night of a road-to-home-back-to-back, were missing their top 3 centers (2nd, 3rd, and 6th best players), against a fully healthy Nuggets team, and nearly pulled off a win. When the two teams played each other fully healthy in the first game this season in Minnesota with no back-to-backs involved the Wolves blew them out by 21 points. When the Wolves are fully healthy, they are the top team to knock off the Nuggets in the playoffs. Hopefully we get that as the WCF, would be amazing to watch.
@pathape
@pathape 6 ай бұрын
The Nuggets rotation in the playoffs is different. Jokic plays more minutes in the playoffs so fewer non jokic minutes equals denver beats any western conference team pretty easily in the playoffs.
@otacmakarije352
@otacmakarije352 6 ай бұрын
Wolves play better without that transgender mickey mouse big Purr.When Joke sees Rudy it is 40 ppg,only Naz was a loss there. No matter..nobody is scared of T wolves..Den is a playoff team built. Nobody can beat them on the west in 7 games series
@PaperPlaneStudios
@PaperPlaneStudios 6 ай бұрын
well McDaniels won't shoot like that anymore this season, that helps Twolves keep close in the 4th quarter
@Bigmike55626
@Bigmike55626 6 ай бұрын
Bro thinks the wolves will shoot lights out again
@seanmaertens8483
@seanmaertens8483 6 ай бұрын
@@Bigmike55626 Lmao. You think the Wolves shot it "lights out"??? Talk about delusional. Denver shot 51.9% from the field and 51.9% from 3pt range. Wolves shot 47.7% from the field and 34.4% from 3pt range.
@deepaknambisan3251
@deepaknambisan3251 6 ай бұрын
An unusually excellent segment
@keorapetsekealotswe6725
@keorapetsekealotswe6725 6 ай бұрын
I honestly love it when Mad Dog and JJ are around
@teejdavenport4574
@teejdavenport4574 6 ай бұрын
Without even thinking about it. We all got Tatum at 7...."Wait this isn't a no brainier this isn't easy" Molly
@memphismadekel
@memphismadekel 6 ай бұрын
I am not taking Joel over Tatum in the playoffs. That’s insane
@LayLowandBeEazy
@LayLowandBeEazy 5 ай бұрын
Ehhhhh on my list I got embid 10 Tatum 11 but it’s definitely arguable .
@Bars11_
@Bars11_ 6 ай бұрын
I can't wait for Tatum to get his ring..so he can shut all these nonsense around him. People talking as if he is not that dude coming playoffs time. Let's not forget he is the main pioneer in all the conference finals run the Celtics have made since he came into the league.
@flash012234
@flash012234 6 ай бұрын
Not over Denver I fear
@codedsoul7360
@codedsoul7360 6 ай бұрын
The problem is that he has had too good teams and for him to still not have a ring is bad. Swap him with Luka and Celtics have a ring by now.
@masstarvation
@masstarvation 6 ай бұрын
if it was Edwards or Luka in this Boston team, Mad Dog will call this team the best of all time and crown them the GOAT. Tatum hate is real
@Myersboii
@Myersboii 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that dude in the playoffs that is the most up and down player. You can’t be considered great when you’re not consistent.
@aimegizi5749
@aimegizi5749 6 ай бұрын
Well Jimmy Butler might have something to say about that 😅😅 Celtics r laughable, they'll get u to the conference finals in a weaker East, then of course let everyone down
@kaysheye7784
@kaysheye7784 6 ай бұрын
I've been saying it - I don't think the Nuggets lose to the Timberwolves in the playoffs with both teams healthy but the Timberwolves have arguably given the Nuggets the most hell out of any Western team and you could see that in their playoff series last season
@mugiwarailyas4100
@mugiwarailyas4100 5 ай бұрын
without naz reid, kat and gobert they were a missed three short of overtime i think you’re underrating the twolves alot
@user-es7wp2pd9l
@user-es7wp2pd9l 6 ай бұрын
I like this version of FT with JJ and Mad Dogg it’s legit real talk
@cagaming-b1b
@cagaming-b1b 6 ай бұрын
11:19 - my face when I’m waiting for the pizza rolls to be cooked in the microwave
@sandoggg
@sandoggg 6 ай бұрын
Nuggets: Nice game good job everyone, tough win Twolves: Well, with nothing but our 4th string bigman and 2nd day of a back to back that was a close game.
@Supremely_Based_Takes
@Supremely_Based_Takes 6 ай бұрын
That’s exactly how it should’ve been, nuggets should NOT be celebrating after that victory and the Timberwolves should be feeling confident after that loss. Did you watch the full game or just the highlights?
@TheJapan38
@TheJapan38 6 ай бұрын
Why shouldn't the Nuggets celebrate the win? Only fans care about the win margin. Teams want to win the game period. 12 and 2 since the all star break. Denver is in championship mode. Doesn't matter the win margin.
@truebrowncanadian
@truebrowncanadian 6 ай бұрын
​@@Supremely_Based_Takes homecourt helps, and nuggets are bad at taking foot off the gas if theyre up 15+ at half.. look at when they played in philly this season and when they played in philly last season, just say you don't watch the nuggets play so I don't have to call you a casual
@CozyLoungeShorts
@CozyLoungeShorts 6 ай бұрын
@@TheJapan38You obviously don’t listen to players and coaches talk about these things😂😂😂😂😂. A BAD win, is not a GOOD thing in sports
@truebrowncanadian
@truebrowncanadian 6 ай бұрын
​@@CozyLoungeShorts nevertheless, what shows up in the W/L column bud? Mistakes can be corrected for future match ups. Also you probably didn't read my reply to (insert name here), that reply applies to you as well. Nuggets are bad at taking foot off the gas after a big halftime lead.
@jslayer45
@jslayer45 6 ай бұрын
Taking embiid over Tatum in a game 7 is nasty work. Tatum averages like 28 8 6 in game 7s. Wonder what embiids numbers are lmaoo
@deborahrobelot7762
@deborahrobelot7762 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. JTs had plenty of great elimination games and series. I think he’ll eventually make up for his poor ‘22 Finals
@codedsoul7360
@codedsoul7360 6 ай бұрын
Put Embiid or Luka in that Celtics team and he would have at least 1 ring by now.
@masstarvation
@masstarvation 6 ай бұрын
Embiid averages 1 second-round exit every year lmao
@milosmomcilovic4166
@milosmomcilovic4166 6 ай бұрын
He didnt say game 7,he said 7game series...
@RR-in7do
@RR-in7do 6 ай бұрын
​@@codedsoul7360embiid is a certified playoff choker. Give me a break
@okayfornow
@okayfornow 6 ай бұрын
That's why Denver is the best assembled team. Everyone knows their role and excels in their role.
@claymccombe1838
@claymccombe1838 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Gotta give credit to Coach Malone’s leadership and selfless culture.
@drakevick1646
@drakevick1646 6 ай бұрын
Y’all are SLANDERING Tatum, bro. Tatum is better than LeBron. Tatum is better than Embiid, and has proved it by going 4-0 in series against him. He’s better than KD, as was proven during that sweep, and the fact that KD can’t lead his team as far as Tatum is. He’s fifth. Personally, I have Jokic, Luka, Curry, and Giannis above him, but that’s it. He’s better than SGA. He’s better than AD. He’s better than all but four guys in this league at worst. Stop it
@LuvLon24
@LuvLon24 6 ай бұрын
Smoking whatever u smoking gotta be crack. I mess wit Tatum but he never won an MVP or Chip yet. But he’s on the rise
@jamargraham6707
@jamargraham6707 6 ай бұрын
Luka can not pass Tatum until he plays defense on a consistent basis.
@winningishalfthebattle154
@winningishalfthebattle154 6 ай бұрын
Better than LeBron, Embiid SGA, and Steph? You need to be drug tested immediately lol. Mad Dogg set the table for his very necessary Tatum criticism perfectly. Face the facts bro, Boston has given Jason Tatum everything you would think he needs to win a championship, and when he got there both Tatum and Brown played flat.
@pattrickmerete
@pattrickmerete 6 ай бұрын
Tatum choked against undrafted players last year!
@iTsSeanZ
@iTsSeanZ 6 ай бұрын
better than embiid 😂😂😂😂😂
@Mamba24834
@Mamba24834 6 ай бұрын
Denver are going to be back to back champions. Watching them play is incredible.
@SxpremeTestify
@SxpremeTestify 6 ай бұрын
watch what happens in the 2nd round between denver and healthy minnesota, I will be back when you are wrong.
@yeah_im_trash5033
@yeah_im_trash5033 6 ай бұрын
@@SxpremeTestifyMinnesota ain’t beating Denver lil bro
@Scotty2Hotty4
@Scotty2Hotty4 6 ай бұрын
@@SxpremeTestifyfacts I have a lot of teams beating the nuggets. Wolves and Clippers have what It takes of healthy that’s the thing. Yes we will be back I wanna see what he respond to you
@SxpremeTestify
@SxpremeTestify 6 ай бұрын
yes Minnesota with Luka Garza and Kyle Anderson as the centers won't beat Denver, Minnesota with KAT Gobert and Naz on the court will beat Denver this year and you will see it in the 2nd round assuming they stay 2 and 3 seed. I will be back in May@@yeah_im_trash5033
@rich2586
@rich2586 6 ай бұрын
How much you want to bet ?
@fooly23
@fooly23 6 ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion: Jaylen Brown is Better than Jason Tatum mainly in the clutch
@Serenity01871
@Serenity01871 6 ай бұрын
not unpopular trade tatum against ant and they winning tatum doesnt have that dawg in him he speaks like a child in press conference and dont drive. jokic is ten times better than tatum so denver wins again
@ChokeslamToHell
@ChokeslamToHell 6 ай бұрын
No he is not lol
@jslayer45
@jslayer45 6 ай бұрын
@@Serenity01871ant is not better than Tatum buddy. Pipe down
@sakthithanigai5036
@sakthithanigai5036 6 ай бұрын
@@Serenity01871I’d consider game 7s clutch time and JB had 8 turnovers in one
@lucasespanha6877
@lucasespanha6877 6 ай бұрын
Agreed and i know a ton of people who also agree. Tatum is a low IQ player who takes bad decisions in the clutch
@ajitkirpekar4251
@ajitkirpekar4251 6 ай бұрын
In terms of absolutely no brainers when healthy: Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, and Luka are all probably a solid yes. I think after that Kawhi, KD, Curry, and Lebron are slightly better right now. That's 8 names right there leaving only 2 spots where you can legitimately debate Tatum vs AD vs ANT vs Shea and some other names.
@kerickstevens6610
@kerickstevens6610 6 ай бұрын
MPJ HAS BEEN THAT DUDE
@HomerunsamSOSA
@HomerunsamSOSA 6 ай бұрын
I was surprised to see him passin
@rankobarensic
@rankobarensic 6 ай бұрын
Amen😊🙏
@sakthithanigai5036
@sakthithanigai5036 6 ай бұрын
Embiid over Tatum is laughable lmao
@davyjoneslocker4859
@davyjoneslocker4859 6 ай бұрын
Tatum just healthier not better
@xMaGuSx888
@xMaGuSx888 6 ай бұрын
@@davyjoneslocker4859 Doesn't matter how good you are if you can never be on the court. Also, Boston has sent Philly home year after year after year. They are a non factor and have been. So has Embiid regardless of his regular season success.
@anthonymelendez333
@anthonymelendez333 6 ай бұрын
@@davyjoneslocker4859Tatum always clutches up and embarrasses Embiid tf you mean he’s not better ?! In the offseason who do you think Joel runs to train with ? I’ll tell your rn it ain’t Tatum running to train with curry
@breonmitchell2443
@breonmitchell2443 6 ай бұрын
Jaylen Brown better than Tatum offense built around Tatum brown had same structure he average 30
@masstarvation
@masstarvation 6 ай бұрын
@@davyjoneslocker4859 Embiid is always sent home by Tatum and gang LMAO Remember that Game 7 embarassment from Embiid and Harden? Tatum dropped 51 on their heads
@rashadcotton3260
@rashadcotton3260 6 ай бұрын
It’s because you’re saying he is mvp level that’s why he gets criticized pretty simple.
@user-sw1fz9vc6r
@user-sw1fz9vc6r 6 ай бұрын
Getting a push to be mvp too lol😂
@anthonymelendez333
@anthonymelendez333 6 ай бұрын
He is an mvp tho lol he clears Durant Lebron and Embiid rn he beats them regularly even without his super team man lol Tatum is just the best American player rn and the only person in question to sit there and say “I have an argument” is Anthony edwards
@barbaramoreira290
@barbaramoreira290 6 ай бұрын
​@@anthonymelendez333are you high or something???
@trainerrob1622
@trainerrob1622 6 ай бұрын
MVP level... What is MVP level? MVP doesn't mean best player if it did only 4 or 5 guys would have won the award in the past 30 years. When a team is running away with the reglar season in the way the Celtics are and they have a clear #1, that guy is always going to be in the MVP conversation. Sabonis and Jimmy Butler got MVP votes last year. Both Devin Booker and Chris Paul got MVP votes the year they went to the finals and Booker finished 4th!
@truebrowncanadian
@truebrowncanadian 6 ай бұрын
​@@barbaramoreira290 are you on glue? It's pretty true american media badly wants to label an american as the face of the nba, when the 4-5 best players in the league aren't even american.
@chuckelcalhoun
@chuckelcalhoun 6 ай бұрын
Wolves gained some confidence, but don't forget that Denver has played in a half doaxe games where the came back from games. They are gaining confidence in the fact that they have another gear
@jaredmula8830
@jaredmula8830 6 ай бұрын
The tatum and celtics hate is crazyyyy
@sportsguy25
@sportsguy25 6 ай бұрын
all the great teams/ players face it when they’ve fallen short
@tripdagrim2504
@tripdagrim2504 6 ай бұрын
Minnesota will be good against the Nugs because they have the formula the Lakers used in 2020 wit Rudy being a REAL big man, a defensive player, and great rebounder and it allows KAT a scoring big man and to help in the post without having the job to to guard Jokic just like Dwight/Mcgee and AD
@bobbycole7537
@bobbycole7537 6 ай бұрын
Its never about "the nuggets won" its always about "the other team almost won against the nuggets"
@φωτηςμπατζιος
@φωτηςμπατζιος 6 ай бұрын
Mad dog showed them how ridiculous was the tatum mvp talks lmao hes barely top 10
@deborahrobelot7762
@deborahrobelot7762 6 ай бұрын
barely top 10 😂
@φωτηςμπατζιος
@φωτηςμπατζιος 6 ай бұрын
@@deborahrobelot7762 give your top 10 make us laugh
@xerospades
@xerospades 6 ай бұрын
I mean think about it. If your team is in the top five, you should be considered top 10. I don't understand how two stars that are in the 9th seed are considered top 10
@masstarvation
@masstarvation 6 ай бұрын
Go back and play NBA 2k LOL
@anthonytaylor7949
@anthonytaylor7949 6 ай бұрын
@@xerospadesplayers not teams what records has to do with the player
@TheRobversion1
@TheRobversion1 6 ай бұрын
Goalposts are simply different for tatum which arent the same for other guys his age like SGA and Luka. he really does need to win a chip before things start becoming "fair" for JT. amd of course, everyone conveniently forgets defense which is JTs main attribute. Hes essentially a younger kawhi without the chip. He is indeed a top 5-10 player. No way i'm taking KD or lebron over him.
@landynbirk8137
@landynbirk8137 6 ай бұрын
I like how Denver never wins a game on this show, they "escape"
@politedemons
@politedemons 6 ай бұрын
it was def an escape lastnight though.
@landynbirk8137
@landynbirk8137 6 ай бұрын
@@politedemons just like they escaped the Lakers last year too
@Clinton.A95
@Clinton.A95 6 ай бұрын
​@landynbirk8137 no one said that
@comgetit
@comgetit 6 ай бұрын
@@Clinton.A95Media : they figured the nuggets out! Nuggets proceeds to sweep the Lakers
@landynbirk8137
@landynbirk8137 6 ай бұрын
@@comgetit no no, escaped
@Pinkgreen190
@Pinkgreen190 6 ай бұрын
Timberwolves can be a threat to Nuggets but I think Nuggets are still repeating. Regarding Tatum, he's probably top 5 currently. Those other guys they mentioned were good in the past or are overrated (Embiid)
@tompratt7125
@tompratt7125 6 ай бұрын
ESPN analytics is arguably the worst out there. A few weeks ago they had the Nuggets with a 6% to get the #1 seed. LOL. And only about a 40% chance to even reach the 4th seed;. LOL even louder. Ridiculous. Nuggets will be favored in 12 of the 13 remaining games, heavily favored in most. As for their remaining strength of schedule, I have no idea where ESPN came up with the laughable idea the Nuggets have the hardest remaining. According to multiple of the most respected SOS calculators the Nuggets have one of the easiest remaining schedules, with one giving them the 2nd easiest.
@Peca-sz6yt
@Peca-sz6yt 6 ай бұрын
What is that 1 game where they will not be favorites
@yomomma1312
@yomomma1312 6 ай бұрын
the fact he said durant embiid giannis in a playoff series when tatums beaten all of them goes to show how much he pays attention to the nba
@alexanthro8248
@alexanthro8248 6 ай бұрын
💯, and let's not forget, he SWEPT KD and Philly with Embiid had a 3-2 lead
@SullyAfgarshe
@SullyAfgarshe 6 ай бұрын
Porter Jr. is the guy that takes Denver to that next level, he plays like an all-star most nights, fits seamlessly with Joker and Murray…I expect they’ll repeat but it’ll be more difficult than last year because I think Shai and AntMan are legit superstars in their own right and I wouldn’t be totally surprised if they find themselves in the Finals
@jedimindtricks5713
@jedimindtricks5713 6 ай бұрын
Relax chief, I’m a big Ant & SGA guy but they’re on young teams who try hard during the season. The Wolves & Thunder are no where near championship level
@iamhorcruxer
@iamhorcruxer 6 ай бұрын
But what about the Lakers
@Serenity01871
@Serenity01871 6 ай бұрын
@@jedimindtricks5713the thunder aint win nothing this year cmon chet rookie j dub second year and no size. twolves can make the cwf but last year it was a 4 1 and without kat difficult
@GHMuss
@GHMuss 6 ай бұрын
No shot the Thunder make the Finals this year, just not gonna happen, reaching semis might be challenging for them.
@SullyAfgarshe
@SullyAfgarshe 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t say they’d win a title…I said I wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up in the Finals, like OKC did in 2012…both teams have the talent, they’re great on both ends, and they have closers…does it hurt them that they’re young, yes, but that’s precisely why they’re both dangerous teams…Also it will be interesting how the Wolves adjust in the playoffs with KAT more than likely coming back in the 1st round (knock on wood) and Chet isn’t OKC number two guy, JDub is and he is a dog
@robonrich6549
@robonrich6549 6 ай бұрын
The Wolves showed EVERYONE in the league how to defend Jokic up top and Denver never made an adjustment 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@fahim-ev8qq
@fahim-ev8qq 6 ай бұрын
I genuinely think they’re saving that adjustment for the playoffs just so other coaches don’t game plan against it from now
@bryanmahoney3434
@bryanmahoney3434 6 ай бұрын
Tatum turns into an absolute Pumpkin when the pressure is on. That has been proven.
@cholmanjr8345
@cholmanjr8345 6 ай бұрын
yep...
@creamated986
@creamated986 6 ай бұрын
proven when??? game 7 against philly??? game 6 against milwaukee??
@revampmusic56
@revampmusic56 6 ай бұрын
Just say you don’t know ball
@bryanmahoney3434
@bryanmahoney3434 6 ай бұрын
@@revampmusic56 I am still way upset about him costing me 500 dollars in the Finals a couple years ago. You know what he was in that series. PUMPKIN!! How about getting embarrassed by the Heat last year going down 0-3. I don't care they brought it back to a game 7 0-3 is an embarrassment. Spin it whichever way you want when the pressure has been on. PUMPKIN!
@timsweeney684
@timsweeney684 6 ай бұрын
He’s shown up way more times than he hasn’t. You casuals ruin NBA discourse 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MattParry-yl8su
@MattParry-yl8su 6 ай бұрын
Mad Dog's suit is fire
@Lambothegod
@Lambothegod 6 ай бұрын
KD not better than JT anymore lmfao
@stacybombath917
@stacybombath917 6 ай бұрын
bro is a chocker dw you'll see Jaylen brown looking like the number one option again this year two buddy
@Lambothegod
@Lambothegod 6 ай бұрын
@@stacybombath917 aye buddy google who holds the record for most points in a Game 7. Praise God have a blessed one!
@battlerapwax4191
@battlerapwax4191 6 ай бұрын
Did we just say in a game 7 Embiid better than Tatum but Tatum dropped 50 POINTS IN GAME 7 AGAINST EMBIID? im a sixers fan saying this 😂
@dreamweaver80
@dreamweaver80 6 ай бұрын
Joker, Embid, Luka, SGA, Giannis, Edwards, Durant, Steph all over Tatum.
@anujshah6597
@anujshah6597 6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Lebron, Kawhi, Jalen Brunson, even Jamal Murray and Kyrie in a playoff setting. Tatum is barely a top 15-20 player currently. Most overrated all-NBA player of all time?
@sibserdinola6913
@sibserdinola6913 6 ай бұрын
KD got swept last time he faced Tatum and the Cs lol
@b2bclutchyuh887
@b2bclutchyuh887 6 ай бұрын
@@anujshah6597Nah you pushing tf out of it with Brunson, Kyrie, and Murray 😂
@brandenbrooks8213
@brandenbrooks8213 6 ай бұрын
I’m a Celtics fan but I would agree. Only problem is Tatum has outplayed embiid and kd in recent playoffs. Gave Giannis almost 50, and other guys don’t have playoff success other than joker
@ASevBVB09
@ASevBVB09 6 ай бұрын
Not Durant...
@KillingWithaSmile613
@KillingWithaSmile613 6 ай бұрын
elevated level of expression. well put! stealing that.
@kennystar9075
@kennystar9075 6 ай бұрын
When MPJ shoots this well the Nuggets are nearly impossible to beat. The only team that could beat them with him being such a sniper is the Celtics, and they would have to be lights out from 3.
@je5406
@je5406 6 ай бұрын
Its great when teams come up with moral victories vs the Nuggets. Denver fans will take the W.
@kimmachelle
@kimmachelle 6 ай бұрын
tatum has beaten embiid every time in the playoffs. what are they talking about?
@pulamea5564
@pulamea5564 6 ай бұрын
When I see JJ on, I'm watching
@kingsantana8191
@kingsantana8191 6 ай бұрын
Mad dog spitting facts 😂
@d.supreme8592
@d.supreme8592 6 ай бұрын
Tatum is what Paul George should’ve been
@anujshah6597
@anujshah6597 6 ай бұрын
And PG is what Tatum will be, a second banana who’s on his 5th team
@joshpeveto805
@joshpeveto805 6 ай бұрын
Hoenstly though what would people think about Tatum if the next 4 years he goes to 2 more Finals and still doesn't win one and doesn't play well?? At some point it's who they are. Some people can't get over that hump. No problem with it. Some people just can't
@shahidmufti795
@shahidmufti795 6 ай бұрын
ESPN pushing HARD for Edwards to be the "face of the league".....American born Edwards, that's why.....
@nikobellic2515
@nikobellic2515 6 ай бұрын
Dude shut up. Nobody cares if a euro player is the best player…
@kishorhegde7218
@kishorhegde7218 6 ай бұрын
Were pushing for Tatum for last few years..But he failed to win so now they are pushing edwards
@GrandmasterZen
@GrandmasterZen 6 ай бұрын
💯
@jamesozzie
@jamesozzie 6 ай бұрын
Correct. All the praise for Edwards when Jokic had a better game and more points, yet Stephen Race Smith bangs on about Edwards
@collinsnyaosi4109
@collinsnyaosi4109 6 ай бұрын
Ur all reaching ant has been good admit it ..performing like this at 22 years is phenomenal...man is a highlight reel
@annakuhn489
@annakuhn489 6 ай бұрын
Denver players accepting their roles is more due to Jokic than Malone, that's obvious that he's the one who embodies the selfless 'winning > anything else' philosophy, and that's the underseen value of Jokic gthat carries his game even
@probably6755
@probably6755 6 ай бұрын
Tatum is the ultimate playoff choker more than Harden if he doesn't win the ring this season.. Celtics have the best starting 5 and the best roster in the league and also have the best 2nd option in the league..
@ChokeslamToHell
@ChokeslamToHell 6 ай бұрын
Tatum was 25 last year Jesus lol
@mattroberti9657
@mattroberti9657 6 ай бұрын
@@ChokeslamToHellhe also has gm 7 playoff points record iirc
@abtocool6350
@abtocool6350 6 ай бұрын
Best second option😂, you got Ad, booker, pg, and kyrie.
@probably6755
@probably6755 6 ай бұрын
@@abtocool6350 There's a good chance non of the guys you mentioned will be in the All NBA team this season... Jalen Brown lock at All NBA 2nd team.
@revampmusic56
@revampmusic56 6 ай бұрын
Worst than harden? 😭😭😭 lmfaoooo ok
@MattParry-yl8su
@MattParry-yl8su 6 ай бұрын
Stephen A and JJ had good chemistry today
@leroyduncan9368
@leroyduncan9368 6 ай бұрын
MN is going to the finals this year. I promise you that. No Gobert, not KAT, no Naz Reid. We got the juice this year.
@Young_squeeze
@Young_squeeze 6 ай бұрын
Lmao
@guiwhiz
@guiwhiz 6 ай бұрын
Wait... what? Denver doesn't have anything close to the hardest remaining schedule. They have the EASIEST remaining schedule amongst the top 10 Western Conference teams.
@glenn8886
@glenn8886 6 ай бұрын
I'm definetly not taking KD over Tatum right now, for me Tatum & Lebron & Curry are about the same now. it's not because Tatum got much better(he got better with years went on for sure), it's more about Curry&Lebron are not the same anymore. Embiid...em...he doesn't belong to this conversation, I know he looks great before he got hurt, but that's not important, I know who he is already.
@PutXi_Whipped
@PutXi_Whipped 6 ай бұрын
Enjoy the first round exit them
@senorwavyy
@senorwavyy 6 ай бұрын
Tatum will prove y’all wrong. Just like JB did and he was labeled average by so many. Now he’s balling out of control. Tatum has gotten better every year and I bet all the slander will be turned to admiration.
@Justicehillmusic
@Justicehillmusic 6 ай бұрын
But how does this effect Lebron’s legacy?
@pimpstick9988
@pimpstick9988 6 ай бұрын
Molly dropping a Kendrick line ‘money power respect’
@Alex-o3z2c
@Alex-o3z2c 6 ай бұрын
JJ mentioning that he played 15 yrs daily>SAS career
@dumafuji
@dumafuji 6 ай бұрын
Good take on the nuggets on this one. They are right about mpj. If there get an aggressive player who can find his shot and it’s falling it’s lights out. They didn’t have that last year and still went 16-4
@Asherrager
@Asherrager 6 ай бұрын
Tatum closed out Philly and the bucks in the playoffs what are we talking about man??
@chrisdamon1096
@chrisdamon1096 6 ай бұрын
Closed Giannis out one time bruh
@kishorhegde7218
@kishorhegde7218 6 ай бұрын
Philly are certified chokers..
@mohamedh7427
@mohamedh7427 6 ай бұрын
Correction* his team is better thats all give giannis or embiid his roster they will have rings by now and giannis would have more than one. He got drafted into a team that already made the ECF people brush over his situation. Giannis has to make threats every time for the bucks to make moves that how they got Jrue. The sixers FO is hot garbage.
@SmokeNMirrors600
@SmokeNMirrors600 6 ай бұрын
@@chrisdamon1096right and Middleton was out the whole series and took them 7 games both times the Celtics beat the bucks 🤣🤣🤣
@CahlilWesson
@CahlilWesson 6 ай бұрын
@@mohamedh7427yea people tend to look over his 4 allstar teamates. I expect them to win this year or there wont be any more excuses for tatum. And i dont want to hear abt JB bc hes been so much better this season.
@Tj1480.
@Tj1480. 6 ай бұрын
Nuggets and Celtics will both be in the finals because of how their bench plays .
@TheRealMichaelP
@TheRealMichaelP 6 ай бұрын
Journeyman Redick you don’t get awards for almost winning when your young, countless athletes didn’t win when they were young and the window closed forever, when you get the opportunity you gotta take advantage no more participation trophy’s in the 2020’s
@anthonymelendez333
@anthonymelendez333 6 ай бұрын
Only Tatum is clearly getting better lol he’s not having struggling seasons like Durant or those other younger teams His “worst” season he made the finals lol
@TheRealMichaelP
@TheRealMichaelP 6 ай бұрын
@@anthonymelendez333 he shoulda went down swinging at least, it’s alright to get beat up but not if you don’t fight back
@petarjovanov
@petarjovanov 6 ай бұрын
Why are you not talking about 36mins of no calls on the MVP frontrunner that kept Timberwolves in the game?
@victorm.mendezmedina9674
@victorm.mendezmedina9674 6 ай бұрын
ESPN "Anyone but the Nuggets"
@jeremyarrington9427
@jeremyarrington9427 6 ай бұрын
way to give stephen a the tough questions mad dog 😂😂😂
@donjohn7709
@donjohn7709 6 ай бұрын
JJ is wrong here. The Wolves should have been blown out and it came down to 1 shot.
@Serenity01871
@Serenity01871 6 ай бұрын
who cares last year denver goes 12 11 after all star and still won it all
@Brazillianboi69
@Brazillianboi69 6 ай бұрын
They were at home and role players stepped up
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 6 ай бұрын
They were getting blown out before Nuggets got bored and let their foot off the gas
@donjohn7709
@donjohn7709 6 ай бұрын
Whatever you need to tell yourself, chubs@@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 6 ай бұрын
@@donjohn7709 You go ahead and just keep on celebrating those moral victories. Go ask Laker fans how well that's worked out for them
@dky2006
@dky2006 6 ай бұрын
There's a MASSIVE difference in basketball knowledge and intelligence when it comes to JJ Redick (an actual professional basketball player and college star, student of the game) versus these so-called "analysts" Stephen A and Mad Dog, who've watched a lot of games but aren't real experts. To compare them would be unfair. JJ knows the game. The other two don't.
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 6 ай бұрын
tatum is top 5; joel embid is not a top 5 1. Nikola 2. Giannas 3. Luka 4. Steph 5. Tatum 6. Joel 7. Booker 8. Mitchell 9. Butler 10. Shai 11. Kawhi 12. Lebron 13. KD 14. Brunson 15. Edwards 16. AD
@aisaiahwitahoodie5186
@aisaiahwitahoodie5186 6 ай бұрын
lebron and kd out of top 10 lmao
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 6 ай бұрын
@@aisaiahwitahoodie5186 yeah I don’t have them in the top 10 anymore and people have to accept that & They’re not good defenders anymore. Their IQ is still up there, but their impact isn’t as it used to be because LeBron & KD where is great as they were, they would probably be going to the finals and not struggling to make the playoffs
@davyjoneslocker4859
@davyjoneslocker4859 6 ай бұрын
​@@aisaiahwitahoodie5186whole list invalid lol
@L4pa100
@L4pa100 6 ай бұрын
Thank you they didn’t mention Embid lost 3x to Tatum in the playoffs
@belovedcombos209
@belovedcombos209 6 ай бұрын
Butler over and Mitchell over Kawhi might be a crime bro
@aayanrussell7972
@aayanrussell7972 6 ай бұрын
And mark your calendar folks because AE and the Wolves is definitely coming at em again and bringing that heat. 🔥
@d.supreme8592
@d.supreme8592 6 ай бұрын
Tatum is a better version of Paul George
@anujshah6597
@anujshah6597 6 ай бұрын
Prime PG?
@rinothegod6220
@rinothegod6220 5 ай бұрын
Embiid over Tatum is crazy when the Celtics stay sending em home in the playoffs
@playapresident5249
@playapresident5249 6 ай бұрын
uhhh we had 17+ turnovers and looked flat due to the fact that we knew we weren’t playing them healthy
@aubhreypender3091
@aubhreypender3091 6 ай бұрын
How tf do you know that lol. You ain’t on the team.
@5luelight726
@5luelight726 6 ай бұрын
May be true, but when we played fully healthy we beat Denver by 20+
@playapresident5249
@playapresident5249 6 ай бұрын
@@aubhreypender3091 we avg 12..and if you really watch basketball i could be wrong but it happens a lot and i’ve heard a lot of people say it like reggie shaq kenny etc..
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 6 ай бұрын
@@5luelight726 You mean when Nuggets were playing their 3rd game in 4 nights while on the road, and had a short offseason due to being the champions. I'm sure that *ONE* game early in the season has more significance than an entire playoff series in which Wolves were 1 missed free throw from being swept🙄
@5luelight726
@5luelight726 6 ай бұрын
@@ranchosdelnorte It’s the only thing we can go off because it’s the only game we’re the wolves have been fully healthy 🤷🏽‍♂️ even in the playoffs last year there was no Naz Reid & no Mcdaniels. Plus KAT missed almost the entire season so there was no chemistry between him & Gobert
@pizzathehut1674
@pizzathehut1674 6 ай бұрын
The celtics heel is Tatum, nothing but a better melo(spot shooter), if this guy could learn to take it to the rack as easy he can chuck threes
@joeedirk1564
@joeedirk1564 6 ай бұрын
Mad dog be goin crazy🤦🏾‍♂️😭😭
@doteth6603
@doteth6603 6 ай бұрын
Gotta give SA credit for this panel. Don't agree with MD much, but love JJs reactions
@deelak2329
@deelak2329 6 ай бұрын
Molly said that the nuggets have the hardest remaining schedule when the nuggets actually have the second easiest schedule behind Boston lol. Oklahoma has the 6th hardest schedule and wolves the 18th.
@bbott137
@bbott137 6 ай бұрын
Tatum actually cooks Durant consistently. If you look at the numbers.
@bigsamkay
@bigsamkay 6 ай бұрын
I know Kawhi and the clippers choked a couple of hears ago but man.. A healthy Kawhi is a dangerous man. Like Max said, hes a cyborg
@michaelb1348
@michaelb1348 4 ай бұрын
For a 7 game series I'm taking Joker, Bron, Curry, KD, Embiid, Giannis, Luka, SGA, Kawhi and Ant before I take JT.
@slow_Jo
@slow_Jo 6 ай бұрын
Jaden was aggressive offensively yesterday because he had to with all of the injuries. When he wants to do his 5-10 feet pullup jumper, no one can block him except Wemby. Stay aggressive and be a threat to score at all times so defense can't load up on ANT all game.
@dylankoenig8203
@dylankoenig8203 6 ай бұрын
It’s a tough call right now because Tatum is clearly younger, fresher with more in the tank. Also a terrific talent. Lebron has that it factor that Tatum may not possess though, and that makes it tough. It’s about the teams too though, and the Celtics are far better than the lakers as a team this year. The question rly is, if you put Tatum on the lakers and lebron on the celts how does each team fare ? Lebron May outperform or keep pace in a series, but 0 chance lakers beat Celtics in a playoff series (finals)
@haakonlien7107
@haakonlien7107 6 ай бұрын
actually such a fun game, thought we were gonna get blown out
@edwardrichardson9543
@edwardrichardson9543 6 ай бұрын
I thought the Wolves should wear them 1998 jerseys as their throwbacks
@redfoxx1417
@redfoxx1417 6 ай бұрын
Butler over Tatum in a 7 game series
@jasontyson3658
@jasontyson3658 6 ай бұрын
For all of Wiggins flaws and issues as a player, GS wouldn't have beat the Celtics in the finals without him. His defense on Tatum was superb and a large part of why Tatum struggled was because of his play on defense, something which Brooklyn didn't have any why Tatum scorched them
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