Musk, Ramaswamy argue with MAGA base about H-1B visas: My thoughts

[@island_viper]

Right now, H1B is given to lower wages, not the best talent. As an engineer, I see many Indian engineers getting paid $30-$50/hr where American engineers like myself are unable to compete. It's a great program for business owners. Not engineers.

[@RT-ig5cs]

Good job voting for Elon as president. Now he's calling you dumb

[@davidz-c137]

Yes I can see how it can be abused by businesses. I think they should enforce businesses to have a ratio or cap on the number of H1Bs they can issue, for example 5 American employees per H1B issued.

[@island_viper]

@@RT-ig5cs i didn't vote for him. I don't like how he treated his employees. He bought that presidency.

[@shelleycline3542]

@@island_viperthats fair and I'm sorry you're going through that

[@Jennifer-p5x3t]

@@davidz-c137great point

[@zicob2536]

But they're not "top" engineers. Corporations are using H1B visa to bring in IT workers directly from India instead of hiring American engineers because they are cheaper. That's not right!!

[@PanzerBuyer]

True, they are replacing truckers by the thousands and democrats are SILENT about it.

[@pfury67]

And then the company owns the engineer until they get their green card, which takes years.

[@AB_NYC]

the U.S. needs 400,000 new engineers every year, but one-third of engineering jobs go unfilled, a trend expected to last through 2030.

[@SpencerWalls]

@@PanzerBuyer Blame the corporations and lack of labor unions instead of trying to divide. Lets find a solution.

[@openranks4519]

All of these tech layoffs but we still need more H1B visas?? 🤨 Doesn’t make sense!!

[@rl8571]

Quick story to share. I jumped into IT in the 1980s and the IT department was half Black and everyone was American. H1B blew up in the 1990s. I am retiring soon and IT departments have less than 5 percent black. There is nothing an H1B can do that any American can't do.

[@MrHammer2088]

Remember now!, the believes DEI is bad so if they choose America 1st then it would mean DEI

[@doug1217]

Absolutely ... I went to an Ivy League school worked with these people in tech for 16 years. They aren't any more competent. Billionaires just want to save money.

[@moose9376]

This H1B is not America first.

[@RT-ig5cs]

Let president Elon do his things my friend. Congrats on voting an immigrant as president lol

[@doug1217]

@@RT-ig5cs Kamala would have done the exact same regarding H1B.

[@tientran7492]

The H-1B visa is not for top 0.1% talent. The H-1B is for the middle of the pack type of workers that fills in the number for employers to leverage against American workforce as far as salaries and benefits go.

[@icykid]

period

[@jackdemoguitar]

Exactly! The companies are also hiring H1Bs bc they don’t want to train the up and coming generation for these low level roles

[@Patriot67-r2h]

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. The important fact is there is short of local born taking to STEM degrees. H1B is absolutely needed to bring top talent some times these Talent are foreign born students in STEM degrees that stay back after graduating from our colleges. Americans always need to be told they are the best. You can keep with that BS or admit that our native born don't take to math and science like the previous generations. Lot of companies in US are made with the hardwork of these H1B's who never get enough credit. Look around 33% of all silicon valley startups are foreign born. Look around top CEOs etc are foreign born. The H1 program has prevailing wages determined by Dept of labor we can revise it and make H1 change employers easily so all these will increase their cost in the market further so there is no discussion about undercutting local born. At the end now days a guy flipping burger has an opinion on H1B as if with little training he can be a data scientist. Funny, ignorance is bliss. I believe Elon and Vivek are uniquely apt to fix H1B shortcomings. Trump added some safegaurds in first term to this program in first term that was gutted by biden. Bring it back also. All of these are good discussion to have.

[@satanicmechanic17]

That's what they are saying needs to changed. If you don't pay am h1b more than an american then you don't get an h1b

[@ste-ce1977]

An a lottery system at that

[@chrisl1704]

This isn’t about helping America lol.. its about helping their businesses and keeping cheap labor.

[@epmstrathss4222]

🎯🎯🎯

[@xlivetoday]

Paying a engineer isn’t cheap

[@epmstrathss4222]

@ …. Unless they’re foreign, sponsored and then obliged - via contract - to stay with one company. Then they are paid ~ 2/3 what the going rate is for US citizens who have engineering degrees in the same fields.

[@dalebruno5201]

If we have the chance to take away the smartest from other countries and they follow our culture then we need them. One example is Von Braun the main German scientist that produced the v2 ballistic missile which then became the most famous NASA scientist one main reason the moon landing happened. If we don’t take them Russia and China will for sure. Should we take other countries mediocre people HELL NO only the best of the best

[@ljthirtyfiver]

@@xlivetodayyou’re right …paying them cash isn’t cheap. Granting them residency and sponsoring them to be here while they work for a company under contractual obligations is way cheaper. They’ll still make 100k whereas Americans engineers can make 140k give or take for the same work.

[@harrym9655]

Stephen A doesn’t know about the issues deeply enough to speak about it..

[@StudioDiMedia]

Exactly and it is irresponsible of SAS to use his platform while he figures it out with half baked details and perspectives. 🤦🏾‍♂️ Oh well! This is America and he has every right to spew whatever he pleases. 🤌🏾🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🥃

[@Dan_Boston]

You do? 🤡

[@arighteousname5882]

Clearly

[@arighteousname5882]

​@@Dan_Bostonwell yeah becuase that the dissonance with Trumps base over this

[@micha3L6969]

⁠@@Dan_Boston is he broadcasting his political opinions to the world on a regular basis with a platform he has a responsibility to uphold as reliable?

[@DrewbattleTheGreat]

Americans should be hired before any foreigner

[@vante9588]

How if the foreigner has equal skills but will accept less pay?

[@jhuntsofly]

@@DrewbattleTheGreat 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@Noir_Nouveau]

Hollywood be using them for years and you probably go see those movies on the first night.

[@jhuntsofly]

@@Noir_Nouveau what does it matter if it's tech, Hollywood , or manufacturing. Stop giving an excuse with what others have done none should do it

[@coreytheus4144]

@@Noir_Nouveauwhat does that even mean?

[@oneway706]

Why can’t America train its citizens for the jobs it needs???

[@krislai7453]

Because the education system is trash and you believe college is a scam.

[@RT-ig5cs]

The citizens need to help themselves. You can't study commerce and get an engineering job

[@hey_im_him]

Why do you assume everyone here even has the capability to be trained? It’s not all to do with culture or study habits. We are not all equal. Some people are smarter than others, and it’s not on a linear scale either.

[@RikaShae]

You can, but not in our current system. Education needs to be reformed, that takes years and creating a new culture, recruiting the top people in any field, fills those spots until the reform takes place

[@zip____1521]

You would need education reform from elementary school. We can do it but it will take years.

[@wattspeakers]

As a 3 time Trump supporter, I can tell you honestly this is not what MAGA is. This was not America first. It's a concession by a US President at the behest of powerful influencers.

[@acommon1]

Very solid point

[@RED7727Hot]

I knew when Trump picked JD ,I saw an idian trail coming.

[@christopherjones7425]

Whit do respect sir, you have no idea what Maga is.

[@Jean-PaulSemaan]

@@christopherjones7425hear hear!

[@zheyuanhuang7716]

With Maga core support only, Trump won't be elected. Nobody gets 100% of what he wants. Just think about it. would you rather have 3 million illegal immigrants each year who rely heavily on our social programs or 65k tech H1b each year who brought skills and renovation to our country?

[@beaglesnlove580]

The h1b visa is a huge scam. I graduated from university in here and I’m finding it very hard to find a job. The same job I’m applying I see foreigners take those jobs. Like wtf?

[@acommon1]

Amen 🙏🏽

[@Flynerdybarber]

It's crazy jobs that are suppose to pay 100k they will get them for 65k

[@anubhabguha1304]

skill issue

[@downtomars6268]

H-1B is an India first immigration scam that all parties avoid talking about. Indian HR "tech companies" like Infosys have been caught using H-1B to commit immigration fraud. The Indian government has been making visa for trade deals to export of its people around the world.

[@pedrocantu123]

How is it worst than nearshore or offshore ?

[@ivanleo7522]

while I am no fan of laura loomer she called out musk on his BS and got demonetized. The only reason Musk supports this visa is because he can get cheap labour. It's really simple.

[@828_Nate]

I agree! But I did see where she got demonetized because she tossed up someone's address in a post. But I dunno for sure.... She has some good points but damn she seems crazy other times 😂

[@ashwinpawar5325]

She said some vile disgusting stuff about Indians tho

[@marcellomercuri5619]

​@@828_Nate that's the first time I'm hearing this.

[@deusexmachina9217]

She spewed a lot of hate on Indians.

[@stopherrr]

She reported Biden was about to die. She should definitely be demonetized…

[@nickadt]

5:58 SAS claiming that the conservatives are "open to debate" is hilarious given that Elon Musk is actively punishing conservatives who disagree with him on Twitter. How is that not "cancel culture?"

[@hof5943]

Chill dude. You guys lost.

[@Tati8796]

How is he punishing them?

[@MrHammer2088]

Thank you! SAS is trying hard to solidifying himself as a conservative- he's pandering and making excuses for There's no doubt the Democrats have dropped the ball in many areas(out of control illegal immigration no doubt ) but the Republicans have initiated more economic damages to this country- Nixon remove the dollar being backed by gold and open the flood gates to this massive national debt.. job leaving America with outsourcing was initiated by Reagan with his reagonomic policy.. student loan debt was also created by Reagan.. all those bad policies have led to where this country is with the widening wealth gap, stagnant wage and high inflation.. now they're acting like the Democrats created it all and they're now the saviors..smh

[@MedoryK]

And Elon is being called out on it .... much quicker than Pre Elon Twitter re: shadowbanning! I noticed you didn't point that out. #managethebigtent

[@alexandrodisla6285]

How?

[@justadownsouthtexasboy1259]

The valedictorian and the kid who makes the best science projects in school are now coaching the football team 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@wms702]

Advice 4 them from the great Lavar Ball…”Stay in your Lane”

[@billycarter1798]

Maga doesn't not want any competition to disrupt the status quo. (DEI, legal immigration, etc)

[@sylviat9692]

Why would another country send their best people? This is not true? Their government keeps them in their country. India is sending their mediocre talent. They have a whole business of brokers that process the visas to send them here and their families. They just have to pay. The majority of legal immigrants come from India. CEOs from Microsoft, Google, Adobe, IBM, Palo Alto Network, Xerox , KZbin, FedEx are all Indians and it's quite peculiar that they only want Indian immigrants

[@diggidy5367]

Thank you. Excellent point, people just don't see the okeydoke that's being played on the American people.

[@Solrax6]

As a US software engineer native to the country, I can definitely say I've seen a huge trend of American companies outsourcing their tech jobs to foreign workers either via H1B visas or through outright contracting with foreign companies. While software engineering is definitely a specialized skill and there can be individuals out there with a lot of experience and some talent, the vast majority of the work that companies are outsourcing doesn't require the top 0.1% let alone the top 10% of talent in the world. I most definitely wouldn't say that the work I do is anything close to "top talent" level, yet when I consistently meet with very "well known US companies", their developers are all from India, some of which live in the states on visas or have lived in the states for a short time and are now working out of India for US companies. US companies aren't outsourcing because they can't find talent here, they are outsourcing to be greedy and not have to pay a fair wage + benefits to the average American worker. Then after selling out American workers, they turn around and sell our own US made software back to us at exorbitant prices. The entire irony of all of this being, that most of the people in the world pirating software are from impoverished countries where it doesn't get prosecuted. Meanwhile, the average person here in the US can get a hefty fine...... if they don't know what they are doing, for torrenting software. What a joke.

[@openranks4519]

All of these tech layoffs but we still need more H1B visas?? 🤨

[@jacoberinc]

They are playing dirty games and Vivek and Musk should be ashamed of themselves. 75% of STEM grads don't work in STEM largely because of programs like H1B. It is causing tremendous harm to millions of Americans.

[@jacoberinc]

@bikkandbee That's how it goes, these corporations just want indentured servants. They want to own their employees for a pittance. Once they can't own you anymore the they don't want you anymore. Can't get much more evil than that.

[@tobin27]

This type Visa equals Indentured servitude equals cheap contract labor,etc etc.

[@mauricemcmillian1791]

They probably still make more than you🤣💀

[@satanicmechanic17]

Which is the reform that Maga is asking for

[@thereallegend4lyfe]

Top talent is the O1 visa, not H1B. They are allowing half a million per year in the country with 75% coming from India alone.

[@billycarter1798]

Maga does not want fair competition that could disrupt the stus quo of America. They hate DEI, LEGAL immigration etc

[@hdthor]

The H1B per-year cap is 80 thousand, not half a million.

[@thereallegend4lyfe]

@@hdthor What I'm saying is that they've been going over that cap with no consequences.

[@hdthor]

@@thereallegend4lyfe who is “they” ? The government issues H1B. They do not go over the cap. Congress sometimes adjusts the cap, can be 80k one year, 120k another year. But it’s never ever as high as 500k. The cap is always in the range of 60-120k new H1Bs per year. Where are you getting this “half a million per year” figure? Also, the government has a cap on green cards per year, and it is 14k per country. So even if 80k are coming in on H1B, they won’t all be able to permanently live in the U.S. H1B is a temporary resident visa. If they become unemployed for 60 days, they have to leave the U.S. Their spouses and children are also ineligible to work in the U.S. They can’t retire in the U.S. Only permanent residents (green card holders) can live permanent and their spouse and children can work, and they can retire in the US. But that’s only 14k per year from any single country like India.

[@nasimdanielhaq3639]

@@thereallegend4lyfecorrect assessment about H1B they are issuing way more than 85000 per year. The cap is not being adhered to. H1B is not for top talent, but mostly entry level positions.

[@Escape2Paradox]

The BS is strong with this one. Musk thinks he's fooling anyone with that "Best and Brightest" line, when everyone knows its the "Cheap and Exploitable" he really wants.

[@mirandaaldrich9616]

The why did he suggest raising the minimum wage so immigrants and Americans are paid the same

[@diggidy5367]

That SAS was fooled by it should tell you everything about SAS.

[@Escape2Paradox]

@@mirandaaldrich9616 Probably because he got jumped by a LOT of people on X after his initial comments and wanted to save face.

[@anubhabguha1304]

cheap? lmao

[@milehighyt2097]

The argument that there is a shortage of American talent for high skilled jobs is bullshit. It's an insult to myself, and other Americans working in the tech sector with degrees who have either been laid off or unable to find employment after college. They want cheaper labor at the expense of American workers. It's that simple.

[@diggidy5367]

SAS is a paid media shill who doesn't know about the average hard working American. There's multi levels of this chess game that's being played to manipulate this debate. Loudmouths like SAS who aren't equipped for this discussion need to be quiet.

[@swn32]

oh look, you got fked over by capitalism. Congratulations.

[@sheribritton9911]

As a Republican, I agree that as long as they are here legally. The only thing I will say is that as long as they get paid the same wages as Americans and we are not being pushed out for cheaper wages. That is wrong. Get the abuse out if any. We will always have disagreements on our side but stay united at the end.

[@rrickarr]

You might feel that but MAGA certainly does NOT feel that way.

[@lindseywhitlock8773]

Yes totally areed

[@lindseywhitlock8773]

​@@rrickarrwell Maga can get over it..right?.😂

[@jacoberinc]

​@@lindseywhitlock8773No, if companies want to bring in H1B workers then they should have to pay a 50% premium over the prevailing wage for them. This will protect American jobs.

[@GraceAloneThroughFaithAlone]

No immigration. America First which means Americans.

[@stripmin41]

HB1 visas are not genius visas they are two separate things that are lumped into one. Yes we sould bring in the .001% of the best but not the other 800k a year that Americans could easily use.

[@Patriot67-r2h]

First Get the visa correct. It is H1B. You are clueless on a lot of things. So dont talk about it. In a nutshell H1B is needed. Some reforms can be done further to protect local talent being undercut.

[@ownerspride8305]

It is 85,000 a year. Not 800,000 a year.

[@AceFlexFitness0007]

@@Patriot67-r2h the O-1 visa is for 0.1% talent not the H1B visas

[@AceFlexFitness0007]

@@Patriot67-r2h BTW Canada let 1 million last year and the year before and now we have a housing crisis and regular citizens can't find places to rent or buy homes.

[@Patriot67-r2h]

@@ownerspride8305 It ain't matter most here are not from Tech World, They are just whiners.

[@jackdemoguitar]

As a professional engineer at a large company, I am very familiar with the deleterious effects that H1B have on aspiring engineers! The recent engineering grads are almost always overlooked for the cheap H1Bs

[@RT-ig5cs]

Fake news...Congrats on voting for a southafrican immigrant as president. Now he's calling you dumb.

[@nlybnrj]

Thanks!

[@hewlett6792]

I need my thanks too😢

[@moniquesbeautylifeover50]

If you're on the very fine people on both sides bs you've lost all credibility.

[@ThatDiecastGuy69]

you are right, there are no fine people on the left

[@csammy123]

That has been debunked so many times along with "suckers and losers" I wonder how Democrats will even have a future if nobody believes their fake news anymore.

[@RikaShae]

Are you talking about the lie that that’s what Trump said, or that it’s still being repeated over and over even though it’s been proven to not be true for years?

[@jacoberinc]

Yeah that was just pathetic on his part.

[@QuendryGuerrero]

Yea, he's trying to be logical with unlogical people. Stephen A is Buggin!

[@Suewooo]

Tech field is one of the fasting growing field. Why should we give the best careers to foreign workers who will send the money back home? I once recommended my younger brother and sisters to go into tech but seeing how they are getting screwed it is fucked up.

[@George-ux6zz]

I'm not a fan of these visas. Most companies that want this will be paying half or less than half the wage of an American worker. According to MIT the US has plenty of qualified workers for these positions. I would be in favor of bringing in the genius crowd. However, I don't know a lot about this subject, so I'm open to hearing arguments on the subject.

[@telegrphavenuetv]

@@George-ux6zz the program is too restrictive and chains workers to their employer. Lifting some of them would prevent exploitation and wages would go up naturally

[@michaelharrington223]

Most companies employed visa workers because they can get them for less wages and more leaveage over work force. Not because on average they are smarter more talented or work harder. That other perceptive.

[@BoyBawalKo]

We live in an era where Stephen Smith is a voice of reason. Speaks openly about how he feels and admits what he doesn’t know. No bias, just wants the right things. Bravo my guy 👏

[@beingmisstosha]

💯

[@Cher187]

The issue with these Visa's are about,,,in my opinion,, is ,,Americans that are Employed by these Large Corporate Companies,,are being FIRED. If they want to keep their incentives,, they must TRAIN their Replacement who came in on a work visa, from a different Country, so this Large Corporate Company can save money by paying less wages with little to no health care at 80 hours a week. It's not fair to either side.😡😡!!!.

[@lsparks1110]

It’s funny that everybody want to be first and use America as its vessel to send the message, when America don’t even care about American kids and their future. How are we a first world country and world leader but our kids have consistently been in the lower half of the world ranks for educated nations. We don’t put money into fixing that problem….nooooo we out source to different countries causing different problems when we can just fix that problem with the 350 million plus population we have here. I’m sure we can get 100,000 engineers out of 350 million if we put our time, money and collective minds to it. Kick them out and focus on American kids. Simple as that

[@jacoberinc]

Also 75% of STEM workers don't work in STEM because companies chose cheap foreign labor over them. This is many millions of people that could fill these roles.

[@tbxavier2595]

I agree with you that we should be investing much more in America. I don't agree with kicking people who are talented out though. How are you gonna learn from them?

[@jacoberinc]

@@tbxavier2595 have them train their replacements. Just like many Americans were forced to train their H1B replacements. Here is how we do it. If companies want an H1B worker then they must pay 50% more than the prevailing wage for that position. Meaning the highly skilled H1B's that the companies deem worth the expenditure will stay. The rest will have to train their less expensive domestic replacements.

[@lsparks1110]

@ zoom it’s 2024 going into 2025. We have ways.

[@diggidy5367]

China and India have had a 1billion + population for decades, so of course they are going to have a larger number of engineers relative due to a high population. This notion that Chinese and Indian immigrants are more apt for engineering and tech jobs because of "culture" and education is BS. There's plenty of Americans in stem fields and enough Americans with the aptitude to be retrained for high skilled jobs if there was a dire need. This is about wages and benefits. American born workers will demand higher wages than people from India and China. Period. It's not about ability.

[@nagphillips7886]

America first is Americans first. If Trump is for the working class, then be for the working class. They have the Americans train their replacements. So Americans are able to do the job.

[@jxstified7558]

No one should have a problem with legal immigration but as a Trump supporter in this past election Im going to always be against illegal immigration especially them getting all these benefits instead of actual Americans who need it, same goes for the money spent in these proxy wars meanwhile our people are suffering here....

[@PanzerBuyer]

I have a problem with legal immigration. Just look what the idiots in Canada have done to their people. Housing costs have skyrocketed due to millions pouring into that country. Same is happening here. We should put the brakes on all migration and let wages and housing availability rise.

[@jacoberinc]

I sure as hell have a problem with legal immigration if it is harming the American working class!! Stop using foreign labor to replace American workers. Stop using foreign labor to drive our wages down. H1B should include a 50% premium tax over prevailing wage on foreign workers companies want to bring on. 75% of STEM grads in the US don't work in STEM because companies wouldn't hire them, they chose cheap foreign workers over American citizens and it has to stop. Americans first and America First.

[@jacoberinc]

I sure as hell have a problem with legal immigration if it is harming the American working class!! Stop using foreign labor to replace American workers. Stop using foreign labor to drive our wages down. H1B should include a 50% premium tax over prevailing wage on foreign workers companies want to bring on. 75% of STEM grads in the US don't work in STEM because companies wouldn't hire them, they chose cheap foreign workers over American citizens and it has to stop. Americans first and America First.

[@acook9882]

Thank you for talking about Robert Brooks. Please keep this issue in the light.

[@mariolaposta7848]

I will never watch ESPN first take again

[@edmundocarlos312]

There is no problem with the program if it’s properly run. The problem is that the program has been abused. Most of our programs are great but politics have destroyed them. We want the best from wherever they come, but we also want America first. Cake and eat it too

[@jacoberinc]

There are massive problems with the program. It should be dissolved and replaced with something new that only allows companies to take the top 0.01% of talent. This program would charge a 50% above prevailing wage premium tax on companies using the program. They can bring someone in to fill a 200k salary position but they will have to pay 100k tax on top. That money would be used for upskilling the American workforce to ensure we have the most skilled workforce in the world.

[@nnenne4]

Indentured servants, not the best, just a cheap alternative to an American. Driving down wages

[@Slamnewton]

Stephen a smith definitely be soft shoeing 🦝 don’t put down those tap shoes yet

[@diggidy5367]

SAS has made his millions, his children are set for life. He doesn't have to worry about them competing with foreign workers in any capacity. SAS can afford to be a shill. He just wants his lifestyle to be maintained. It's just so sad that people who are so ignorant can have such a prominent national voice

[@vickieigie6711]

I agreed with your commentary, on H-1B because that puts money in our economy and everyone wins.

[@polymathg]

You're missing the point, man. Elon Musk says we don't have enough geniuses in the USA. The truth is we suppress our own geniuses by turning success into a political money game. Ironic that Elon Musk, who himself is an import, wants to import others and get them for a fraction of the price. This is all about saving money and maintaining complete monopolistic control. Instead of H-1B, let's create a pathway for American geniuses to finally be recognized. Trump always says, "Buy American and hire American," and here we are talking about importing illegals below cost. We the People are sick of America Last policies! Let's take care of our own finally. AMERICA FIRST!!!

[@adamhurst5532]

I agree there are geniuses and exceptional people in America without question, however, we also need those people outside of the country that can help America grow. There is a massive difference between legal and illegal immigration. Now if they drive out Americans from having the same opportunity, that is a problem.

[@diggidy5367]

Musk bought a company (he didn't create Tesla) built it off of government subsidies, and tax incentives. His companies are notoriously anti-union, have many lawsuits concerning working conditions, and discrimination. It relies on heavy immigrant labor in the engineering, tech departments, and upper management. That Musk has this point of view isn't surprising, he is not on the side of the American worker, never has been, never will be. The question is whether the American people realize who has president Trump's ear and their agenda.

[@openranks4519]

America FIRST = AMERICANS first

[@harrym9655]

Billionaires first.. That’s who Trump represents

[@SpicyNuggs562]

How can you support hiring Americans (expensive) over foreigners (cheap), but also be a capitalist at the same time? Do those two not conflict with each other??

[@PremKamble-s7g]

America 1st = America 1st ✔️ America 1st = Natural American born ❌

[@gregp9227]

3x trump voter and I’m already souring on Vivek and and Musk. You can’t be America first and also be in favor of expanding H1B’s. This is not a good start and I’m starting to wonder if DOGE will do a damn thing we demanded. Keep your goddamn promises for once!

[@MirandaN407]

Y'all knew he was lying so why are you surprised🤦🏽‍♀️

[@TheDragon704]

Awww, you didn't think the leopards would eat YOUR face huh. 😂

[@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762]

So they put an immigrant and a 1st gen American in charge what can go wrong???😂

[@coreytheus4144]

@@gregp9227 Elon is your president! Deal with it!

[@arighteousname5882]

😂😂🫵🤡

[@htvtc21]

whether Elon & Vivek are right or wrong, at least the republicans are having open debates. the dems didn't want that. they wanted total silence and blind followers

[@laminsanyang1008]

Dems are abit more sensible in most decisions

[@newfoundmoralclarity]

It's a fair point

[@validatedclassified2564]

As Elon Musk silence his own MAGA critics 😂 yea right.

[@joelrogers8695]

SAS excellent analysis. Thanks

[@One_nJen]

There will never be "blanket" immunity for police officers. Any officer who abuses their power, uses their position to break the law, or murders someone should always be held responsible. They deserve due process, and nothing more or less. There MUST be more oversight in local law enforcement. What's gone on can go on no longer.

[@jayjaytv_4226]

Congratulations on the 1 Million Subs Unc...

[@YellowTeddy14]

Only 85000 people get the H1-B visa with lottery system per year. The employer needs to pay the salary which is decided by the department of labor. Don’t know how they abuse that system though.

[@MM-zm5qx]

This is another lie you have brought into these companies get what is called waivers that allows them to bring in many more foreign workers that double the 85,000 number the 85,000 is what is called the fools gold number 🤔

[@downtomars6268]

Look up Indian HR "tech" companies like Infosys committing immigration fraud using H-1B and fined millions of dollars.

[@newfoundmoralclarity]

Worked for an Indian owned tech company for many years. Maybe 1 of 10 visa recipients there were defensible on grounds other than cost savings. Maybe. More like 1 in 50 tbh. There was one legit genius we were lucky to have in the country

[@Mlungisi_Shozi]

Well done on a million subscribers all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@JulesTheCosmicGem]

As an attorney I’d offer that revisiting the sovereign immunity doctrine is a MUST. We need more accountability by our government employees and peace officers across the board…unfortunately. The level of their immunity for their actions is unclear and one of the hardest matters to argue in court. And the outcomes lean the wrong way

[@njpme]

It's clear. Official acts are carrying out the duty of the office.

[@NateHall-np8qv]

Yeah, ESPN should just bring in another brother from another country and put them in your slot

[@adeptgopnik]

EXACTLY! I bet he changes his view quick then. Hes just another elite like Vivek and Elon trying to tell the workers whats best for them while its actually best for the elites!

[@CSIme]

It might work. They may even ask for less money.

[@tbxavier2595]

@NateHall-np8qv you are narrow minded. If you have not worked and been through that industry you will never understand. It's easy to take that position when you're on the outside looking in.

[@mriccardi825]

See, the rub is this. I worked in corporate environments across multiple companies for several decades. H1-B is good for some things where we genuinely cannot find people. Many doctors and such are here on H1-B. Certainly there are some very high level folks in different fields that have come here. The problem though is right now companies are abusing the heck out of it. They are NOT just hiring the "best and the brightest" or the top talent. Companies, especially in IT, are bringing in foreign workers primarily from India, who are no more skilled than many American workers. The thing is, the foreign workers tend to make much less money, sometimes half as much. Additionally, they can overwork the foreign workers because they can't really quit or they have to return home. So, not only are American workers losing out on work, but the people brought in are being exploited. These positions are being filled across levels in an organization including entry level and it's a genuine problem.

[@uxy5768]

Stephen A - brother you are completely wrong on this issue. With all these historic tech layoffs and the nation prioritize H1B. There is nothing H1B can do that Americans can’t. Let’s be honest here. If you believe in America you should know better. America first

[@AbrehaGebreslasie-cp3xq]

I am unemployed still now because of H1B even though I am Citizen , I graduated in computer science and worked for two years as a software engineer , it has been three years since I was cut from my job. I was hopping that I will get back to my job if trump wins. but it looks like suffering will continue.

[@justinjones2973]

They aren’t top talent, it’s cheap work for corporations

[@edgardmahugnon3333]

Mr Roland Martin was absolutely right on his thought that you're not mature enough for politics. Now I can see!

[@gusvonstupen1897]

Elon and Vivek keeps this crap up? Trump's approval rating will take a hit for sure. Let hope he smartens up! As a tech worker if they ask me to train my replacement? They can shove it! I'll be taking my talent with me thank you very much.

[@Phycheeeee]

Why do you people just run with CNNs headlines first they are "loyalists" and now that they are actively debating on immigration their "infighting"

[@Phycheeeee]

And btw you tech workers are being outsourced to India why? IDK seems like a shitty career

[@gusvonstupen1897]

@@Phycheeeee Been in this racket 18 years and its better than construction in the rain or 90 degree heat thats for sure. lol

[@mgschwartz]

@@Phycheeeeebecause foreign workers will work the same job for 2/3 the pay an American would, that’s why Musk and company want to outsource American tech jobs. He just wants to pay less salary at his companies, and foreign workers who need the job to be able to stay in America have no leverage to ask for better hours, conditions, raises, nothing. Supporting Elon musk is about as anti-American as it gets.

[@JavierGarcia-hd7xm]

Do you think Don cares about an approval rating… lol he’s in it make billions.

[@MinnieHarris-v2m]

I read that Musk fired TI workers to hire HB-1 workers were replacements at lower wages. Nothing against legal immigrants but pushing out American workers is wrong. That's not the American way. SA Smith needs to research why some are calling foul. Farmers can't have immigrant workers but billionaires can. Make it make sense.

[@TeeSpells]

It's cheap labor we need to hire within

[@haronhudu121]

I’m ngl I wasn’t the biggest Stephen A fan but after watching videos like this and his videos on other political issues my stance on him has changed significantly. Than you see the work he’s been doing to support HBCUs. I must say bravo to my guy.

[@darellgrayson6189]

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[@sheribritton9911]

Don't put us all in the same box.

[@DivasClub700]

I praise your Content and the Ability to shine the light of Open debates and Awareness In sure you will make it to 1Millin Subscribers 🙏

[@africanbj]

Nebraska Tappin In

[@jamaelhunt4853]

When you say, Democrats has canceled culture and censorship, didn’t Elon Musk just do that on X when he didn’t agree with what the megabase were saying

[@icosthop9998]

I have *"**#Subscribed**"* 👍

[@bjonet-talk4824]

Hey Stephen A Smith, I believe you have a substantive voice in America today and I respect and admire your tenacity and ability to give quality and quantitative commentary on the pungent issues of our day. With that said, please be careful to think the H1-B policy thoroughly through before taking a stand on a “sports winning concept” that may not meet the needs of the American people as a whole. I believe that our quest to continue to make America great, should entail providing the means for workers across the spectrum to gain the skills to work and provide for their families. Having a job brings dignity and respect to the workers, while providing a means to take care of their families, and establishes a work legacy that will be followed by their children. This issue can’t be looked at as only a need for special expertise, because special expertise and intelligent comes in different forms, shapes and sizes. It cannot be measured by only one standard. There are hidden and laden abilities in the masses that can be brought to surface and utilized when we make an effort to include them. Otherwise, we are saying that only those with a certain expertise we deem important to win, are the only ones we should be concerned about. I content that we can still utilize foreign expertise and still develop our native talents and abilities. In fact, this what has made America the nation that it is. Therefore, we should first focus on developing our available work force across the labor spectrum. By focusing our attention on the available work force, through training and development initiatives, we will bring out an up surge of expertises that are lying dormant in our society. But if we pursue getting expertise from predominately foreign sources, we will stifle this great American potential and creat more poverty and lawlessness, because they will be left out of participating in a prosperous society, that they should be apart of, thus creating a lack of patriotism and and disregard for laws and policies that they do not feel they have a part in. I believe to only focus on those who have the expertise need to win will result in our losing in the long run, and furthermore it will falls short an humanitarian approach to governing for the well being of all the people. Just think, Stephen A, if you had not been given the chance to participate and showcase your abilities and expertise as a communicator, because your humble beginnings and your unknown expertise, look at what the world would be missing today!

[@oprwiz7813]

The engineers don’t work for America. They will work for companies. A better comparison would be each company would be a pro team

[@elliotcosmas]

A successful company pays tax, produces goods benefecial to American society, look at death of Detroit. Imagine they had imported automotive engineers. Foreign companies wouldn't have eaten their lunch

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

That's what makes Elon's argument fairly dishonest. We've all seen throughout the past 10 yrs at least that someone working for a company's benefit isn't the same as them working for the country's benefit. Companies can always move their business outside the country when it suits them, and the ppl who agree with Elon aren't really looking at it from that perspective.

[@charmboy72able]

Trump will NEVER say anything about Robert Brooks, just like he didn’t say anything about George Floyd

[@john678]

Comon sense solutions. Great job

[@markwarren7157]

Thank you for your wise words! I am glad that I decided to listen to you. Please keep up the good work.

[@successahead5598]

Both sides where right. the good thing they understood each other, H-1B is good to get top talent but also it was abused. I think the right solution will be worked out

[@jacoberinc]

Expanding H1B isn't a solution. Put a 50% premium tax over prevailing wage in companies wanting to use the program. 200k H1B now costs the company 300k. See how quick companies will suddenly find that there is plenty of American talent to fill 95% of the roles currently take by H1B.

[@hoydinopk2498]

I love the discussion being held right now. The MAGA Team is working out the kinks together & out loud. It is beautiful to see Americans engage in this nationwide discussion. Trump & Team for All Americans.💕

[@MrWildboy65]

😂

[@lindal2055]

Good discussion and valid points! Thanks sir!

[@Tati8796]

I am an American citizen, a former legal immigrant and I am a Trump voter. I work for an engineering company. A lot of immigrants there. The problem is the Americans don't favor engineering much when choosing a career. Make engineering great again (😉) for the Americans and we will need way less foreigners.

[@MrHammer2088]

My taughts exactly! The same goes for doctors, anesthesiologists etc

[@SilverWolf177]

Same here...legal immigrant but working in the FinTech industry. Most of our technical resources are from India because to be quite frank, they are far more skilled than their American counterparts. It means we clearly have a gap in our college education curriculum. People upset about H1B, but it definitely fills a gap that some clearly don't know about.

[@lolabunny9013]

You are incorrect t Americans value those professions.However they don’t value increasing diversity in those professions.

[@mjsc7655]

The interest rates on government student loans are insane! You don't think more would apply to MIT if it were affordable? Wouldn't that create a larger pool of American candidates?

[@Tati8796]

@@lolabunny9013 Please, do not refer to "Americans" when saying something not based in any facts. The statistics is clear - the Americans are much less interested in engineering than in other careers. And what's wrong with "diversity" when it's based on meritocracy? America is about competition - do better and you will achieve more.

[@barracade24]

It’s about money. Companies don’t want to pay employees higher wages. If they could, they would replace all workers with cheaper labor. Cheap labor = higher profits.

[@jhuntsofly]

Tell that to all the Republicans who go against Trump. He goes after them just like how the dems go after there own what are you talking about 😂😂😂

[@sheribritton9911]

Did democrats voters ever have a say.

[@jhuntsofly]

@sheribritton9911 they said they didn't won't Biden and he got out . Thing is both sides don't have a say or they get shunned .

[@sheribritton9911]

@@jhuntsofly your wrong on that.

[@jhuntsofly]

@sheribritton9911 u seem to forget the gop wouldn't let anyone challenge Trump when he lost bs Biden but ur right im wrong 😭

[@pamelaodom8597]

“The H1B visa program was designed to bring highly skilled workers to the U.S., but it’s time to take a closer look at its impact. Too often, companies exploit the system to hire cheaper labor, displacing qualified American workers and driving down wages. This not only undermines opportunities for U.S. citizens but also creates an environment where workers on H1B visas are vulnerable to exploitation due to their dependency on employers for their legal status.

[@Ethereal1567]

It also doesn't mean overlooking top engineers here at MIT, NJIT?. I agree but there should be a balance and percentage of H1B visas released...there is the issue pf pay of illegals vs the standard pay (cheaper), there is the issue of national security and double agents (didn't the feds just arrest a Chinese gentleman who was here on that same visa who'd overstayed the visa and found to be selling IT technology and military weapons tech info to Kim Yung?) overstay of visas. So there are several considerations and more discussion on this topic.

[@MrHammer2088]

Throw RIT on that list too😊

[@rabbose8161]

Vivek wants to reform H-1b visas totally. He doesn't like how it stands right now.

[@jay4343b]

The true question is why aren't those in power now doing anything about it ?

[@pariahnation1284]

America first means putting Americans first. PERIOD

[@quentincampbell612]

You know, Vivek's always been great at talking with people from every side, having civil discussions with them on podcasts. I'd like to see him on this podcast and have a good healthy discourse with Stephen A.!

[@bezmoney]

Give the foreigners who came here for a better life and are in school and taking care of their responsibilities permanent residency. Americans don't want them jobs

[@trevorsoderquist9110]

The problem isn’t that companies are seeking the .1 percent. It’s that along with the .1 percent, several very large companies are actively pursuing the top 25 percent through the same h1-b program. That 24.9 percent is being hired at ~70% of American average wages for the same positions. I don’t know if these companies are required to provide health insurance or other benefits as well. There’s also the issue that a couple of these companies appear to be Indian companies seeking h1-b visas for Indian nationals 🤔 I don’t know if that’s nepotism, work ethic, culture, wage advantage, or some other influence, but it is worth looking at.

[@Vern-2024]

If India has “top talent,” it’s not reflected in their GDP as a nation or per capita gdp. Which is only $4800/year. This so-called “top talent” hasn’t produced or invented anything that the world needs or uses. So, Musk and Ramaswamy can “talk” all they want about their so called “top talent” but the numbers in their own country speak a whole different story. India’s talent is hardly at the top.

[@meetadi4u]

5-10 million stem graduates per year . Only 40K are selected for H1B program which is selecting good talent from a bigger pool .

[@Vern-2024]

@ Hardly. If the 5-10 million stem graduates actually produced a product to graduate, that solves real world issues, as required in America. You have to ask, what are they teaching? We write the run books that the H1-B’s have to follow if they want to work here. There’s nothing “top talent” about following an experienced engineer’s instructions. Just saying

[@cessyj]

This is not Democrats vs Replubicans

[@LikeLikeLikeLikeLke]

I meant to comment on this yesterday. Really outstanding commentary by SAS. I agree completely but I had no idea how I felt prior to watching. Go SAS! You're a beast w/ the politics! Gotta get you in office ASAP!

[@AileenKelly-o5l]

Congratulations Stephen for your 1 million subscribers! I’m happy I stumbled onto your channel. It’s one of my favorites.

[@timothysalinas37]

I love the debates over policies thay are good for the country. Democrats cant even define what a women is.

[@porque3265]

How about we apply the "Rooney rule 2.0" to cooperate America where you only get to employ an H1B if there are no Americans currently available.

[@dominicbooth3139]

Although, Elon did not promote this policy in the election. Only after.

[@joecelozzi305]

Love this Steven say it loud and clear you my brother have the pulse of media .....truth is truth ..

[@JoseChavez-k6z]

SAS is not thinking about the corporations want visa workers to pay less and increase profit

[@eduardomaldonado1647]

The Problem with H1B visas is that it is being abused to bring in High Skilled Cheap labor and not bring in indispensable highly skilled Employees the .1% of the best engineers in the world. The number of Visas for this program need to be very highly restricted perhaps no more than 10k a year for the entire country. The Visa should have expiration of 2 years and renewed upon assumption that we still need those employees. No more than 20K engineers allowed at any one point. Having a very high Visa amount without limits only suppress wages.

[@GlennHoughton-hd2ib]

Kinda sounds like what happened with the Manhattan project. We recruited and won the war.

[@chuckecheese5251]

One of the only common sense commentaries I've heard on this topic thank you for this Stephan A

[@MrHammer2088]

don't we have some of the best engineers coming out of MIT , RIT and NJIT to name a few🤔

[@telegrphavenuetv]

H1b should be reformed to make it easier for foreign talent to start businesses not just be forced to work

[@douglaslindsey7512]

Like in Oakland?

[@telegrphavenuetv]

@douglaslindsey7512 what's happening in Oakland?

[@dalebandalan9312]

Isn't that what investor visas are for?

[@davidell98]

Congrats on getting to 1 million subscribers!

[@tass1944]

I disagree with an expansion of the H1b visa program at this time. If we are talking about the top .01%, you should be able to accomplish under the current program however there have been extensive layoffs within the tech industry during the last couple of years. For every job open, there are hundreds of qualified applicants. For the most part, our American workers are competitive to their foreign counterparts, especially taking into consideration they have attended the same universities. If you want to bring in more workers, start by bringing back jobs you’ve outsourced to other countries.

[@colinjames7569]

Thank you Stephen. Big fan of your work bro. Keep it up! 👍