What's the BEST Drumming Practice System?

[@sccdrum93]

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[@q4sbgf9kfgrd6]

for those wondering what the grand totals are, i worked them out (averaging the values for "rebound\feel"). Superpad = 20.3 | Remo Silent Stroke = 18.7 | RTOM = 22.7. I think the score of 1 for Remo's "ease of use" is justified. If you're a gigging drummer and don't have the luxury\space for 2 acoustic kits, swapping and tuning heads all the time will get real tired real quick. Thanks for the video!

[@DGodsell]

Honestly for price the firdt ones should be 1 and 2 rather than 3 and 4

[@sccdrum93]

Yeah...probably so. I couldn't help but weigh "value" in a little along with price. Rating them strictly on cost is tricky since they're such different products. But yeah, solely based on cost, silentstroke is the huge winner.

[@prutsbeer7552]

But as a drummer who is regularly performing; ease comes in too. Switching heads before and after every gig is a no go

[@DGodsell]

Jan Dries yeah for sure

[@bengolding]

Silent stroke perform well when mic'd also.. so unless you really want to, there is no real need to switch heads all the time

[@RoeShamBoe]

2 kits... you can buy a garbage kit on CL for a couple hundred... or you could just buy an entry level kit from Pearl, Tama, Yamaha, etc for really not that much more. it's what did. i have a tama starclassic for studio/stage and a yamaha stage custom with silent strokes for practice.

[@CCMDrummer]

I for one have outfitted my kit with the Remo Silent Stroke heads. I have two snare drums. The practice snare drum has the Silent Stroke head on it where the performance snare has the regular head. As for the Toms I put the Silent Strokes on the bottom and the regular heads on the top. When I’m just practicing I simply flip the Toms break out the practice snare change my real cymbals to the Low Volume cymbals. For the bass drum I use a soft beater for practice and a harder beater for performance.

[@markusthedrummer8143]

@sccdrum93 love your channel, congrats on your success. Really appreciate that you are not an egomaniac fake show off spazz like 99% of the buffoons on social media. But I digress... I can’t believe I’m just now discovering these, and this video is 5 years old! That’s crazy to me. Here’s a question I have and would love anyone’s feedback- the Roland TD 07KVX is now around $1100. If I were to buy these black hole mesh heads and electronic cymbals and a decent drum module, I would easily be at that price if not higher. So now I’m kind of torn between the two ideas. seems to me because that Roland gives you so much value for 1100 bucks. That’s the way to go but yes I realize it’s still not playing on your traditional acoustic kit which gives you a few benefits the electronic kits don’t. Now I have a tough decision to make.

[@scotthowe7077]

Adding my congratulations and thanks for a very good piece. I just set up my kit with RTOMs and Zildjian Low Volumes and I'm loving it. It's an investment, but well worth it for the amount of time you just created that is now open to playing without disturbing others or yourself. I find there's something soothing to being able to work out riffs and tunes without the high volume. I think it can make you practice longer and better. Thanks again

[@sccdrum93]

That's awesome! Always great to hear. I agree...It's very freeing knowing that you can just play all you want (when you want) without bothering anyone.

[@adamebihara2923]

Hey Stephen, I am so grateful to have found your channel. Being an apartment dweller (in NYC) who is actively researching sound-dampening products, your videos are so clear + informative. Thanks for sharing your insights! I will watch the rest of your videos and add comments about how well any of my personal modifications work -- over the next few months especially if I buy an acoustic kit. I have a Yamaha DTXtreme III now. ~ Adam (NYC)

[@haydentaylor2250]

I saw a video where somone wanted to get more tone out of their drums with the silent stroke so they took a strip of painters tape and put it on the head to get more tone and it was pretty good, I've never tried it but if you want more tone out of your drums try it. (Let me know how it sounds in person, please!!!)

[@weiryler1]

I've found that if you place 2-3 blankets in the base drum leaning against a Silent Stroke head, it gives you very realistic rebound and also has a very pleasing thud. I have a separate drum set specifically for practice and it has eliminated the pains of swapping out heads in-between shows and practice. I would recommend them to anyone not looking to break the bank.. Great Videos Dude!

[@sccdrum93]

Thanks! And thanks for the tip! That's really interesting, and that totally makes sense. I'm also hearing from people that those bass drum patches also work well to deaden the excess rebound on the silentstroke heads.

[@toad2039]

silent stroke are the best in my case, cheap, durable and more realistic on the snare because i have a rim! And as for the spring bounce at the 6:00 all you need is some white micropore medical tape and stick a circle in the center for longevity i stick it on the under side of the mesh head. It kills the infinite bounce but makes the drum a lil louder and the more tape you add the louder it will be. cheap/nice tool for tunning these heads which can be found anywhere.

[@PartyMartyDrums]

Just started using the silentstrokes on my questlove kit and the feel of the kick drives me insane. I'll give this a try and see if it helps!

[@shem2555]

@@PartyMartyDrums does it work?

[@PartyMartyDrums]

@@shem2555 it does. I had to reinforce it with some foam as well and they depleted the trampoline feel.

[@Bersini]

Rtom for snare and toms, aquarian for bass drum. That's the best option imo.

[@notsogreatcourier9536]

ey thats what i got, its amazing, i originally had the remos, but im in a situation where i can still play loudly on the weekends so i wanted to be able to quickly switch it out, so i got those and its so much better

[@seancampbell1383]

THANK YOU!! Fantastic video. Helped me make up my mind on what to order for my setup! (Black Hole)

[@Aidenandradefilmography]

I got silence stroke heads, and I LOVE them

[@therealbrentrolland]

Thank you for this video! This is super-helpful. I am definitely looking into the Aquarian bass pad-I have the Silent Stroke on my Questlove kit and I want a more solid and less springy, "boing-y" feel so I can work on double strokes and more advanced bass work. I will look at the Black Hole series as well. Much appreciated!

[@williamyoung3070]

The quality of the drums themselves isn't a big factor here. You can convert inexpensive drums into dedicated practice drums with the Remo heads for manageable cost. If you don't have any old beater or budget drums hanging around, they're easy to find online. First up for me is the snare that came with a Safari kit which isn't good enough to use for shows or rehearsals but will be fine for practice with a mesh head on it.

[@misslindacjones2392]

Stephen this is an excellent study......on features vs price ......as much as a drum product review and comparison

[@anirbasmalan2928]

Thanks a ton for taking the time. Seriously helpful information 🤘

[@davewebb3847]

Thanks, that was handy. I've gotta say I liked the sound of the Silent Stroke best. Thought you were a little harsh with the 1 for ease of use, especially if it's a dedicated practice kit. Anyway, you helped me make a decision, so thanks.

[@lewisjones284]

If we be fair about it, it is a 1 for ease of use. I can't think of something that's more inconvenient than having to replace every single head.

[@theovergoat]

Thanks you so much for comparing all three! A couple of months ago I tried to find a video like this one, but couldn't so I was happily surprised to see this among my subscriptions today! I see potential for a follow up video, where you get your hands on the RTOM and Silent Stroke kick heads and compare them to the Aquarian... I would be very excited to see that Great video!

[@sccdrum93]

Awesome! Glad you liked it. Yeah if I get my hands on the kick heads I'll make a part 2 :) I am kind of curious as to how much low end they would (or wouldn't) produce compared to the super pad kick mute.

[@adriancartagena5034]

I too live in an apartment, I use silentstrokes. To be honest, there is no difference between the sound of the toms and the kick, as far as feel goes; it feels awful at first. It really isn't realistic, you can kind of feel the beater sinking into the head, it feels very loose. One thing I found helpful for toms, snare and kick was some type of muffling. I use drumtacs on the snare and toms and it gets rid of some of that spring feel you mentioned, as far as kick goes you could use an evans pad or remo falam, some type of muffling inside the kick drum also helps, especially if its resting on the head itself.

[@jesbrown6528]

For cost and space savings (I only have room for 1 set and do occasionally gig) I use a Silentstroke on an extra snare and rubber pads on the rest of the drums (mine were Vic Firth). The oldschool rubber pads were about the price of 1 Aquarian head or RTom and I can live with them not being as precise. Combined with the low volume Zildjian cymbals this has served me well and made it simple to get ready for gigs. Pretty quiet in my house, but it would not as well in an apartment.

[@sccdrum93]

Nice! You know, the whole practice kit thing is really just about finding what works FOR YOU in whatever your situation is. Sounds like you've got it down with your current system! Lately I've been mostly rocking the superpads, but RTOM on the snare for quiet rimshots. So far so good in the apartment :)

[@blkjakk]

Aquarian Super pads are fantastic. They allow tone and have some pretty good rebound. Another benefit is that when you lift them off, your acoustic kit is ready to go.

[@corneliusyoung9699]

First time to watch your channel. I'm not even 5 minutes in and this is like a great science experiment. Awesome!

[@eduardomagallanes2182]

Great video! You should do one on low volume cymbals.

[@sccdrum93]

I hadn't thought to do that since I haven't heard of any competing low volume cymbals. But maybe that just means I'm biased toward Zildjian haha!

[@gavinhurley8918]

Are there any other options for low volume cymbals.

[@michaeljuliano8839]

Because the RTOM sits over the head instead of on it or replacing it, it doesn't dampen the response from the head which is why the snares can be heard so prominently. He turned the snares off to get rid of the sound.

[@trucksguns6898]

theres a handfull actually. L80, Gen 16, Sabian quiet tone, agean silent R and a couple more I think. L80s and sabian quiet tones are the most affordable

[@PalmdaleGal]

@@gavinhurley8918 - I bought Arborea mute cymbals on Alibaba/AliExpress, which range from under $100/set for budget to about $300/set for better. (I already had Ziljian L80 on a different set and didn't want to keep switching around)

[@OXXOI77777]

Hey thanks a lot for putting this video together; it was really well organized, and probably the single most useful thing I saw in helping me to decide which system would work best for me. I got the RTOMs snare/toms with a Superpad kick and so far I've been super satisfied with the results.

[@aerodrummeur]

In my opinion the most quiet “Best Drumming Practice System” is indisputably Aerodrums! I’m working with this seriously for more than 6 years and I’m even doing gigs with it. Compared to over 20 years of practicing on electronic drums and another couple of years on silent drum kits before (like the Yamaha SL1) I would say, that I’ve never felt progressing like in the last 6 years with Aerodrums. And a lot of your videos helped me for mastering it. At first this one “How NOT to Hold Your Drum Sticks”. It’s exactly like this you should play Aerodrums, but instead of letting bounce your sticks on the drum heads, you need to let them bounce on the palm of your hands. Like this you still have enough rebound for doing double strokes, flams and paradiddles. All in all, this is a perfect muscle and muscle-memory trainer, it has incredible dynamics, zero latency and is completely silent! The prize for Aerodrums is around 180 € plus 50 € for the camera stand (which is absolutely necessary for serious playing!). In Aerodrums you can find a metronome, a playlist function for playing with your music, you can record yourself, you can setup your kits in space like you want, just with using your sticks. You can add or remove elements, you can even add your own samples (Aerodrums can import multilayer wave files) and it is full midi compatible! No kidding, this is the best invention for drummers I’ve seen in the last 35 Years. I invite you to have a look on my dedicated KZbin channel for having an idea what you can do with it.

[@lewisjones284]

Considering that your channel name is aerodrummeur, I would assume a bit of bias

[@aerodrummeur]

@@lewisjones284 Why? I just wanted to make a channel to show what is possible with Aerodrums. I have to disappoint you if you mean that I’ve got payed by Aerodrums for writing here my comment (they never do this) or having done my channel. They have their own channel and don’t need mine. Actually it's a pity you might thinking this because it almost looks like you didn't even go take a look inside. You would have seen that I am not a communication professional. Besides some of my personal ones, there are many other videos of people using Aerodrums. At least you should watch those of Gergo Borlai, because he really shows what you can do with this instrument.

[@lewisjones284]

@@aerodrummeur My fault, I thought you were a part of their team. I stand corrected

[@cilantro8880]

I get the 1 on the ease of use for silentstrokes but you can’t give a 4 and a 3 on cost for SPs and RTOM when the those options are over 2.5x the price of the remo st’s.

[@vincentmontero7848]

Excellent analysis of the pads. Thank you.

[@jamesfulmer7080]

I started off with REMO silent stroke heads and zildjian L80 cymbals. Good practice set up. Then about 6 months ago I switched to RTOM'S on the toms and a Superpad on my bassdrum. At first I dug the RTOM'S even though some of them did not want to fit properly. Then after about a month one of the RTOM's metal ring's came out and try as I might I have not been able to get it to tune up anymore. One of the RTOM'S won't tighten up in one spot around the rim but is still usable. So I've had to go back to the SILENT STROKES on the toms. I love the SUPERPAD on the bass and wish I would have went with the SUPERPAD'S on the toms also.

[@AdamStachelek]

This video was precisely what I needed!

[@gwobcke]

The assumption about the SilentStroke kick - I have both heads mentioned and the SilentStroke doesn't feel like the Pearl Mesh Head at all. Then when you put a Falam Slap pad where the beater makes contact it adds more attack and I think it's very close to the regular drum head I use - an emad- which I also use with a Falam Slap. Maybe that is the key here and your mileage may vary but that's my experience with it.

[@sccdrum93]

Interesting. That makes sense! Honestly some kind of pad like that would probably improve the feel of the silent stroke snare head as well (making it more like the RTOM - which has a patch over the center). Anything to absorb that excess springiness.

[@michaeljuliano8839]

I don't know what the Pearl head feels like, but my experience with the SilentStroke is that it is too springy for anyone who likes to bury the beater. Personally, I prefer to let the better rebound like I do with a stick, so it wasn't as big of a deal for me, but I wouldn't say it felt as good as the SuperPad which I have on my apartment kit now.

[@MrRobinification]

I used the Pearl heads and switched to SilentStrokes. On the kick I also have a Falam Slam an placed a big pillow against the head. The feel became the same as a normal head and the sound too, only much quieter. It did gain some volume though, but it's still quiet enough. The snare I tuned up high, tried an Aquarian dot on it, but the volume went up so much that it doesnt fit with the toms anymore. Now I'm dampening it with gaf tape, with folds in it. Still not the same as normal, but good enough now for me. I might try a Superpad for the snare though.

[@jpainter78]

Same here. Pillow against the head and Falam Slam patch makes it feel like a normal bass drum head.

[@MrRobinification]

On the SilentStroke snare head I use a small piece of gaftape in the centre. The bigger, the louder. It removes the bounce really good and sounds more like a snare too.

[@bennymsitm]

thanks for this guide! I have a "Phil Collins" tribute kit (not the same exact hardware to a T to Phil's nor his son Nic's live kits, but exact setup). I haven't played the drums in a long time, but I decided to set them back up this month, and this guide really helps as I live in a townhouse. I ended up going for the Super Pads on my toms and bass, and the Black Hole on my snare :D

[@joedoherty1062]

I just outfitted my kit with Silentstroke heads, and after watching this video I am happy that I did. I definitely prefer the tone of the silentstrokes verses the other ones shown here. Especially with muffle rings on my toms, the toms with the silentstroke heads still feel and sound almost like they should with the real drum heads on. I got a wayyyyyy better tone from my bass drum silentstroke by just putting 2 layers of duct tape where the beaters hit the head (like a falam slam), and a 5 inch strip to the right, so give it some more tone. It now has a good attack but the strip to the right helps preserve some of the resonance of the head. I also have it tuned about medium tension and honestly it feels great. Maybe not as thumpy as normal, but it still sounds cool, especially for double bass work. Overall I think Remo wins here, the biggest factor being the price. I don't mind taking my heads off every time if it saves me 200 dollars.

[@sccdrum93]

Awesome! I like the duct tape idea on the kick head. That makes sense. Yeah this really just comes down to what's valuable to YOU and what YOU prefer. The thought of switching my heads out twice a week makes me tired just thinking about it, but maybe I'm just lazy like that. I love the ease of throwing things on and being ready to go. But like you said, that does come with a price. I'm glad the silenstrokes are working out well for you! I'm hearing great ideas for making them more realistic, from a reinforcement sticker to straight up duct tape. That's cool.

[@stixcreatur8307]

Not gonna lie, I bought the Silent Stokes simply because of the price and I love the sound I get from the snare and the floor tom with the heads tuned tighter. The rack toms are almost too quiet and not as responsive (less attack) as the other drums. I busted the bass drum head so I've been using a regular bass drum head from Evans with a Vic Firth mute pad attached to it. I dig the sound combined with the snare and it really seems to work well. I have Quiet Tone cymbals and Hi-Hats from Sabian. The crash was fun to play and it died early (cracked around the bell) LOL. The ride isn't bad but definitely doesn't have as many voices as a regular ride cymbal but it works. The hi-hats are actually the most musical out of all the low-volume stuff I have played. I use them as a second hi-hat sound on my full volume kit as well as the practice kit. The sizzle is incredible and the high tones are a nice accent when mic'ed.

[@chrisg7731]

hey, how did you bust the bass drum head? i hit pretty hard on the bass drum and im considering getting the silent strokes, so if im gunna kick right through it, ill have to reassess.

[@austinwerner1855]

Great video Stephen... Much appreciated!👌

[@7thotube]

That chart was perfect, buddy. Thanks for that.

[@Aring1969]

Great vid, gonna try the super pad. Thanks keep up the vids and pdf’s !!!

[@tumiantumi4726]

🤣🤣🤣🤣...My dear Stephen....there is nothing "none Glamorous" about drumming my friend...Drumming is simply glamorous, in any witch way it comes...i just bought the Pearl Export...20" 10" 12" 14" 14"....and the RTOM Black Hole Mash Pads seem to work nice...you helped me make up my mind...thanks for that...great videos BTW...greetings from a novice drummer from Iceland....

[@That_Guy4381]

I actually did a scoring and the Winner Is The Rtom if you want scores than 1st Place Rtom With 32 Points 2nd Place Super Pad With 29 Points And 3rd Or Last Place Is The Silentstroke with 25 Points

[@louishansen3900]

I am learning a lot from your videos this one in particular is trying to figure out how to muffle drums Sunwood Drive my neighbor's crazy thanks for your Insight

[@markhoskins]

I was looking at a practice setup and this video helped ENORMOUSLY! Thank you very much!!! :) :) :)

[@vincentsantarelli6915]

Thanks for the demo ,that saves me alot of time.

[@mbvglider]

Holistically speaking, Silentstroke sounds very good, very natural though quiet, probably because you're not adding anything to the drum and it's still speaking naturally. With the low volume Zildjian cymbals, they almost sound like a very good kit on a drum machine or something like that. Other practice systems just sound like you slapped something on regular acoustic drums, they don't have to have that cohesiveness from drum to drum, even though individual drums might be decent. I don't think they necessarily make the best practice pads because of all the reasons you named, but they're the only quiet drum solution that sounds good enough that you could do a gig on it.

[@andrums93]

Thanks for your tips . Im planning to build a Drum basement study and recording room . When recording I plan to use the normal drum and cymbals. And for daily practice the Low volume ones ... Thanks for the help .

[@cliffordesolomon8923]

Thank You have a blessed week.

[@TheAgentmigs]

Pretty spot on with the silentstroke kick...it has an airy "thuuuum" sound rather than a punchy bass sound. I might try to go for another alternative.

[@leonrosser183]

Amazing detail thank you its a great help . My remo emperor coated are too loud😂

[@Drumboy5165]

My 'quiet practice' method was to buy a house, make a studio out of a back room, then not worry about the volume!!!

[@jamesdevine02]

Ah, the dream.

[@onejasso]

-10 in the cost gradre

[@judsonadair9218]

Definitely not the cheapest option.

[@knrst9061]

My closest neighbours is an old couple 150 yards down the road. I asked (him) one day whilst walking by wether my drumming bothered them. - What!? He said. I went up to him asked again if they had heard any drumming. - I dont play drums! He said 😆 Guessing he aint heard it.

[@jonnyleeg4058]

Must be nice🙄

[@wutamamama]

Great, SUPER informative video! Thanks for doing all the research and showing us all of this so we can get a real live sound and feel to it and direct comparison. Thanks again man!

[@AnnorCode]

This helped a lot, thank you!

[@henry44ph]

Thanks Stephen! Have a good day.

[@buildgreen1]

Great video. You are the first to bring all three together and compare. I would like to see someone get a complete set up of all three styles and do full comparision. My guess is that the rtoms will come out on top. I have been very happy with mine so far.

[@sccdrum93]

Thanks! I had been very curious myself, so I had to at least buy a "sampling" of each. If I had a more sizable budget I'd totally do a full kit comparison :) Or if I purchase more RTOMs later I'll definitely make a video. I think they do all come out on top for everything except sound - since they don't have the funky, cool sound of the super pads.

[@buildgreen1]

I have not tried the super pads but you got me curious now to give them a listen. I don't know of any stores that actually have any of these in the shops so they are difficult to get a hold of without buying them.

[@tx2jbh81]

Very thorough Stephen. Appreciate the video brother 👊🏼

[@CamxCam.]

Nananananananananananananananana... Super-Pad! Edit: I can attest to the Silentstroke heads being unable to properly "practice" on. I haven't been able to transfer the progress I _think_ I've made on them when transferring back over to regular drum heads. The bass drum head especially. Defining it as "springy" is accurate, and I'm not a fan of the snare head, either for the same reason. They are all very bouncy, but keeping the toms tuned lower are not bad.

[@michaelfournier8620]

Tama Soft Sound Ring Set! Nobody has done a review on those yet! You could be the first!

[@bmwf1joel]

should have watched this before I bought a Roland TD27...I can still return it cause Sweetwaters 30 day return policy but it will be bitch to repack. Plus I love it. But because of this video I still need to practice on a real drum set. So ill be purchasing a DW Performance 3 piece and ill add the superpad. ill have both of best worlds. great video!!!

[@ourfragrancejourney3911]

Holy Biased Batman... I have the silentstroke on a full set and they’re awesome. I have a practice kit so I don’t have to take the heads off. Once I seen that the silentstroke cost almost 3 times less that the others but was was a 5 followed by a 4 and 3 lol. Lastly my main bedroom is a couple rooms over from my studio and my wife can’t tell when I’m practicing.

[@sccdrum93]

Nice! Looks like the silentstrokes work great for you. Having a dedicated practice kit makes a big difference in the overall value of those to me. I do believe that you get what you pay for (that the RTOM is the better product with more features), but sometimes cost is the most important factor. That's where Remo's done a great job with their product - making something that works and that is affordable.

[@bpooboi]

Thank you for this video

[@oneman49instruments]

Thanks Stephen!

[@MrKennefff]

Thanks for your vids, man! You've really helped me a lot, also with other vids. I think I'll be getting the silentstrokes for my toms and black hole for snare and kick

[@matthewbarger4592]

im hoping that there will be something that is in the middle between quiet and standard drum set and cymbal volume in the near future.

[@BEElaine1008]

Well, I have the Silent Strokes on order while waiting for my Pearl Black Halos.... But now I’m thinking about switching my order to the RTOM’s. I play just for fun so I’m ok with swapping heads....and I liked that they were the cheapest. But, with the cost of the kit, what’s another $200... I like the fit ang I like that their tuneable. While I wish this was a more complete comparison, you have covered enough to make me re-think it. Thank you 🥁

[@minisurfbanana]

Don’t be fooled by the volume of these...yes they all are extremely lower than natural volume. But all louder than I thought. But when ur in other parts of the house or apt...huge difference!!! I’m play them all the time during the day and night...I play my Roland kit when it’s really late!

[@CrappyProducts]

Amazing video! Thanks for this!

[@ericruppel1610]

I don’t know if this is a consideration for anyone else, but the Super Pads offer the best chance for practicing brush work because they have a lightly textured surface.

[@Cata2690]

Thank you

[@francoismoutou2303]

whiel Silent Stroke is a well known mesh heads ref, you might want to consider Drum Tech heads, they come in 3 versions (single, double and triple ply) and this is of importance when considering the "bounciness" of the head.

[@francoismoutou2303]

I'd be interested to know how the Black Hole behave with a trigger underneath the actual tom or snare head...

[@rodjames5771]

Awesome - thanks heaps for this video Stephen :)

[@IKnewMickey]

I enjoy your channel and appreciate the work you put in.

[@sccdrum93]

Thanks! I appreciate that!

[@chrism950]

im deff getting that rtom set dude its on sale now too

[@adolfofdez.7570]

excellent vídeo!!! very detailed! Thanks so much. Very helpful. Any tip for a homemade solution for the hi hats? Getting the kit ready is enough money to spend already..

[@DGodsell]

I love your videos. Great tutorials on stuff most don't talk about. Wish you had more subs

[@sccdrum93]

Thanks!! My goal is usually to cover the "less-covered" topics.

[@DGodsell]

Stephen Clark you do it very well

[@Mastiff37]

The RTOM bass drum has gotten bad reviews elsewhere. Not because of the sound, but because of the attachment system where the pedal attaches to the RTOM instead of the drum and tends to move and have a different feel. RTOM for everything but bass and Aquarian for bass may be a good option.

[@chrissmith6319]

Great video! You can try a little bit of moleskin on the rim of the drum to deaden the initial attack of the stick when using the silent stroke drum heads :)

[@sccdrum93]

Ah good tip! I've seen that before, but haven't tried it. Thanks!

[@radiofreeabqband]

Really helpful -- thanks, Stephen!

[@kevinwilder8487]

I think you should try the aquarian kick pad on the snare silent stroke.

[@bummerdrummer1902]

Woah! This video was awesome! Keep up the good work, man. Loving the vids. Now I can finally not bother my band mates during practice 😂😂😂

[@sccdrum93]

Thanks man!! Haha yeah you actually could use some of these in a rehearsal if you needed to - especially the Zildjian L80s. I've used those in a rehearsal before.

[@JT-gq8wv]

Well done.Thank You. I subscribed.

[@publicprofilename4273]

I'm using Evans mesh heads on my TD17 set. It has the PDX pads, which is basically their way of being able to charge $60+ for a dang 8" head, as it's propriatary, with the rim and head being one piece. I took my handy dandy angle grinder, and cut the head half of it off, leveled it as best I could, and BOOM, a $15 head, instead of Roland's involuntary backdoor widening attempt. But, I used the silent stroke before that, and yeah, they kinda suck. For a low volume mesh head solution, I'd go with the evans, I think they're "sound off"? maybe. I have to also add, to be fair, I've not used any of the mesh heads, on my acoustic kit, just the edrums.

[@joerico9461]

Cool thanks for your time

[@abrahamnaula]

A one for Super Pad and two for the Rtom in the price level category.

[@doradonk1625]

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[@BrandonGebbia]

There’s no a review about Evans db one? Anyway, nice job ! 👏🏼

[@sebastianv.5239]

Great video dude. I really appreciate the comparisson! I made my mind up and went for rtom pads. Cheers from Argentina!

[@sccdrum93]

It's cool to welcome a fellow drummer from south of the equator! 😀 That's awesome! I'm sure those will work great for you.

[@brucecampbellforpresident1393]

Get black holes they feel good rebound and rim , sound is half or more , easy on and off in seconds , sound quality is not gone.

[@Maccarpenter]

Great video bro! Subscribed !

[@sccdrum93]

Thanks man! I appreciate your subscription 😀👍

[@ayuu.]

The best is still a mix and match for me

[@cbailey089]

I like the RTOMs but ended up using my Real Feel pad for my snare. Provides better feedback, but RTOMs work well on Toms.

[@stevenkorenek389]

Silent stroke is best. You can actually gig with them, versus the others, using overhead mikes. esp. Shouldve been part of your comparison.

[@MJSchoolOfDrums]

Thanks!!

[@berkleeduder]

It sounds like you can still get some sound from the snare wires with each system. Were you able to find a way to make the snare wire sound good using the RTOM? Also, what do you recommend to put on the floor to prevent the pedals from reverberating into other rooms?

[@meyem770]

great video

[@glennpaulmusic]

Thanks for this.

[@pedromontoroarquitetura7072]

Love your channel, great videos, great topics....but I just realized on this video, you are left handed, but you play a right handed kit. I'm lefty too, but I'm learning on a lefty kit. Might be a nice topic for a video. Keep up the great work.

[@christianhervas8791]

I've been using a Roland kit with a mesh snare and rubber pads for several months. It's fun but when I wen't back to my acoustic kit, oh man... my stick control and dynamics were all gone! I am into jazz drumming and this is absolutely terrible. My advice is stay away from the Roland/Remo/Pearl style of mesh. They might seem the counterpart of a real drum head but they are not at all, just because of their weird rebound, and real feel is everything if you are serious about your technique, specially on your snare. As a result I am planning to sell my e-drums and use a different approach using the acoustic kit only. The L-80 cymbals are an awesome invention. Trying to figure out what I'll do for the rest of the kit, probably a combination of different solutions.

[@saintjabroni]

That's a fair and technical observational opinion. I'd imagine that for a lot of people, however, like myself, at least at this stage again from being out of the game for a while - I need to get my body moving appropriately around the dimensions of the acoustic kit (electric blows lol), and find myself comfortable in making beats through that process... Thanks for your input.

[@ciri151]

Did you find a solution? What's your setup now?

[@JLThisisMe]

I think there is a place for electronic drums (I have a DIY set) but you're absolutely right . . . the feel is totally different. The springiness of those mesh heads make you feel like a Moeller Method Zenmaster until you move to regular acoustic heads and experience the difference.

[@Introspectiverider99]

Can't thank u enough! Great stuff subbb

[@sccdrum93]

Thanks so much! Glad you're liking the channel 👍

[@leocomerford]

It would be nice to extend the comparison to some two-ply and three-ply mesh heads: Ballistech 2 three-plys and Roland Powerply two-plys maybe?

[@brrosskiee]

you can use drum-tec real feel or drum-tec pro mesh drum head

[@brianreynolds6303]

Have you tried the new RTom mesh heads yet?

[@timekeeperg2112]

Have you ever tried the Rtom mesh heads only...like the remos..they are actually mounted to the shell like a regular head...the rtoms u show here are the black hole rtoms right? hence the more expensive option...Rtom mesh heads are a few dollars cheaper for me at me local music shop...about $140 for 6 pc set including snare. So i think ill try the rtoms...thks for the video...it helped direct my decision! Keep on drumming rllrlrrlrll!

[@inaktiveshooter]

Whats the best way to trigger/pickup the RTOM set up?

[@nigelfisher6896]

Great review. Can you please do the same for cymbal silencers