Steroids Are NOT a Super Soldier Serum

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Alexander Bromley

Alexander Bromley

Күн бұрын

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@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Жыл бұрын
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@mattsenia6376
@mattsenia6376 Жыл бұрын
Make a tier list vid
@goldsweat3606
@goldsweat3606 Жыл бұрын
I want the thumbnail
@DadGetsFit
@DadGetsFit Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, my fellow big guy. Do you have advice for powerlifting for guys who also have injuries. I'm in my 30's, decided to lose weight during covid 495lbs to now 265lbs, still a little chubby but have been powerlifting for a little over a year. I herniated my L4/L5 when I was a diesel mechanic and that's why my weight blew up. I've tweaked my back 2 times in the past year lifting but I've made progress without injury for a few months now. I can 5x3 405lb DL and 5x3 455lb squat. PR deadlift is 425 because I'm afraid of hurting my back, but I want to be able to hit 500lbs. Is that possible? I'm a big guy, big boned, wrestler/football in HS. Genetically I think I could do it. But with 2 kids and a full time job I'm scared to push my lift and risk injuring myself and not being able to work. Help me out here brother
@BobBobby-kt4sc
@BobBobby-kt4sc Жыл бұрын
@@DadGetsFit Yes. His advice is going to be to take drugs. Take PED's. That's what his advice is gunna be. Its like you didn't even watch the video lol. There is a reason why he himself juices after all.
@steroidsR4losers
@steroidsR4losers 7 ай бұрын
STEROID USERS are WEAK FAKES! Stay natural buddy!
@jeremiahhempel1975
@jeremiahhempel1975 Жыл бұрын
"You'll lift nothing, and be happy." True dystopian nightmare
@drinkinouttacups2665
@drinkinouttacups2665 Жыл бұрын
Liftopian
@BuJammy
@BuJammy Жыл бұрын
@@drinkinouttacups2665 Rightwing deadlift squad?
@ThePoxBottle
@ThePoxBottle Жыл бұрын
Eat insects for protein crew
@ISHIDDEDANDFARDED
@ISHIDDEDANDFARDED Жыл бұрын
Drink the bug shake, live in the bod pod
@virtualpunk448
@virtualpunk448 Жыл бұрын
@@BuJammy LOL.
@Brett733
@Brett733 Жыл бұрын
I remember being 13 and believing when Ronnie Coleman said he was natural because he worked hard and seemed honest
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
Ouch Probably believed in Santa too huh
@Cosmicmorales
@Cosmicmorales Жыл бұрын
easy to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmicmorales 70% of 100% of the time that makes no sense
@Cosmicmorales
@Cosmicmorales Жыл бұрын
@@nolesy34the meaning behind the statement is super basic? Ur the one who's overcomplicating it and can't understand.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
@@Cosmicmorales of course its an easy statement.. but fools rush in, so if i rushed in to understand, better the devil i would know
@dassemultor6940
@dassemultor6940 Жыл бұрын
"If you have big dreams and bad genes, you're in the right place..." This resonated with me. Subscribed.
@mastersironmantarmstrong7148
@mastersironmantarmstrong7148 Жыл бұрын
That was clever
@KenanTurkiye
@KenanTurkiye Жыл бұрын
''...non-lifting globalists'' 1:39 is deep too.
@peamutbubber
@peamutbubber Жыл бұрын
Most people don't have bad genes they just lift for a few months or years and never tap anything close to their potential
@thouveninvijayan3073
@thouveninvijayan3073 Жыл бұрын
I have big Dreams and good genes is it good ?
@brianmeen2158
@brianmeen2158 Жыл бұрын
@@peamutbubbertrue, most people don’t have the dedication to stick with working out for over a year or two.. most don’t even make it 6 months
@youokaybuddyfitness
@youokaybuddyfitness Жыл бұрын
Stay natty bros
@brandonwhitfield1278
@brandonwhitfield1278 Жыл бұрын
Hell no lol
@_d0ser
@_d0ser Жыл бұрын
lmao
@filthydlo69
@filthydlo69 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@PoeticMachineDreams
@PoeticMachineDreams Жыл бұрын
💯
@blueromeo1974
@blueromeo1974 Жыл бұрын
As a natty is not easy. I got years under the belt. I see kids and old, lifting for one year and have a body of a 3 to 5 year lifting. They look bigger and won't lie better cuts or ripped than me. You can't sustain a 6 abs all year round naturally. No water or food all year round (yeah, right). Only on competition can you do that for a limited time. That is how u can see hoes the fake natty are. And if ur not natty, I understand u want all eyes on you. But don't say ur natty when ur not. Including movie stars with rice and broccoli formula.
@GVS
@GVS Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, I can tell a ton of hard work went into this one!
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! I came across one of Cody LeFevers shirts... "Have You Tried Trying?" and thought, "No, no I haven't"
@Supersmartandfunnyguy
@Supersmartandfunnyguy Жыл бұрын
Bromley, I don't know if anyone has told you this yet, but whatever you're doing these days to take care of yourself is really working. You're looking sharper than ever and you can even see it down to how you're animating lately. I hope you're feeling as good as you look!
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that, man. Credit goes to my wife.
@mysticbeing6768
@mysticbeing6768 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley 😉😏 lol
@michelrood2966
@michelrood2966 Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexanderBromley Is her name TRT by any chance ? 😅😅😅
@darealberrygarcia
@darealberrygarcia 11 ай бұрын
Gay and this guy is a cheater so it doesn't matter what he says
@Supersmartandfunnyguy
@Supersmartandfunnyguy 11 ай бұрын
@@darealberrygarcia gonna need some context there, chief.
@_d0ser
@_d0ser Жыл бұрын
"You'll lift nothing. And you'll be happy" 🤣
@brockstar1311
@brockstar1311 Жыл бұрын
Beat me to it lol
@trogdortheburninator8149
@trogdortheburninator8149 Жыл бұрын
Bugzzzzz shakes 😂😂😂
@trev6664
@trev6664 Жыл бұрын
The great form reset 😂
@quinbobb1639
@quinbobb1639 Жыл бұрын
World economic forum gotta love it
@daisoke
@daisoke Жыл бұрын
World Economic Steroids
@wer8990
@wer8990 Жыл бұрын
This video feels like a culmination of your decades of experience as a coach, athlete and astute observer of the industry. So many excellent points, so well articulated and to the point. I'm glad you exist man!
@marshp2749
@marshp2749 Жыл бұрын
Thank god people are talking realistically and honestly about this stuff now. I hope a lot more lifters can make informed decisions (either way) than we did in the 1980s.
@ralphwarom2514
@ralphwarom2514 Жыл бұрын
I would take steroids if they didn't make you die young. But I want to live for a long as time
@marquanbrand-moorehead1887
@marquanbrand-moorehead1887 Жыл бұрын
​@@ralphwarom2514 Don't Ever Take Steroids
@99Gara99
@99Gara99 Жыл бұрын
I was very badly informed so I never took steroids
@YouTubeChillZone
@YouTubeChillZone Жыл бұрын
@Mark Park The only cost is your time to get a proper education in endocrinology then you have nothing to lose but your ballz and a lot of money for regular check out at dr
@carlpanzram7081
@carlpanzram7081 Жыл бұрын
The opposite is the case. Comercial gyms are full of people doing steroids, it's crazy.
@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods
@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods Жыл бұрын
The lengths some roid users go to to excuse and minimize the effects of roids is sad.
@stephen8996
@stephen8996 10 ай бұрын
​@in the wrong lol okay Guenievre_
@rajusingh-u7z
@rajusingh-u7z 5 ай бұрын
Its always a laugh, but all the roid influecners and youtubers gotta keep the views up and money coming in. So they will never tell you the truth.
@PatientZERO100
@PatientZERO100 4 ай бұрын
Yep. Even Dr. Mike, who bases his brand on being a good source of objective fitness information based on the current body of scientific data, is on roids and seems to minimize their effect on him every chance he gets. I think probably the only time he got real was when he announced his retirement from bodybuilding and why he was doing it.
@lucabasso7208
@lucabasso7208 23 күн бұрын
@@PatientZERO100 I remember him talking very badly about roids, especially when it came to his mental health
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 22 күн бұрын
Dr Mike is a hack, stop drinking the kool aid. Watch his ridiculous video about how sleep > steroids. its total cope. Even his mental health comments come across as him trying very hard to sound like a badass, very severe case of small man syndrome.
@r8dj
@r8dj Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your take. Started lifting religiously in school on thru my military career, but genetics have always been against me. Because of my bone structure, the terminally insecure have always marked me as an easy target, forcing me to learn fighting when I was still very young. When my father was diagnosed with Alz/Dim from agent orange exposure in Nam, I moved back to care for him so he could finish his final years in the comfort of his own home. Doing so put me in a bad place emotionally and I let myself go. I quit exercising & eating right. I shut myself off from the rest of my family, friends, the outside world. After 12 years, I finally started taking better care of myself and getting back to where I used to be....both mentally and physically. I had always thought (going as far back as school days) that a cycle would give me that boost to get me over the plateau/ to next level. But it wasn't until recently I remembered, that while I won't be winning any contests anytime soon, there is no replacement for hard work and sheer determination. Of course, the leaps in exercise/nutrition/supplement science don't hurt either.
@chattingwithshap8010
@chattingwithshap8010 Жыл бұрын
Really good video. I’ve been training for 44 years. I grew up under Muscle and Fitness, Joe Weider and Arnold/Zane etc.. I didn’t know that 30 sets per body part was bs. I do now. Experience is beyond important. So many younger lifters think because they have been working out for six months and watched a few videos that they are experts. Nobody has all the answers, and training is nuanced (even if we wish it wasn’t) With that said. For those who are natural, consider the following. 1. Have a plan that is based on sound principles. 2. Get educated. I love the 6-30 reps for hypertrophy idea. While I don’t know exactly the numbers, common sense tells that 30 reps is a ton of time w/o fatigue. 3. Eat well. No matter your goals, food matters. 4. Recovery enough. The idea isn’t to train so hard, so often that you’re constantly fatigued. Rather it’s a balance. 5. Stick with movements that promote growth. A squat - deadlift - row - press - hinge work. They always have and always will. 6. Go slow, train long. While I can’t say I’ve never gotten injured, most of my career I’ve learned that slow progressions work. 7. Lastly, ask for help. Avoid the “I know everything” mantra. Now, ask questions.
@tinalewis1734
@tinalewis1734 Жыл бұрын
✍🏾✍🏾✍🏾✍🏾thAnk you
@seanhokanson4115
@seanhokanson4115 Жыл бұрын
How important is protein in a diet? I understand it’s very important, but what’s your intake/day? Gram/pound ratio, I’m asking. I’m 220lbs, and 220 grams of protein @ about 16% bodyfat seems like an absurd amount of protein to continue to gain muscle tissue.
@chattingwithshap8010
@chattingwithshap8010 Жыл бұрын
@@seanhokanson4115 obviiisly since you’re training you need protein to help the recovery process and to build muscle. There are general guidelines of 3/4 to a gram per pound of body weight. I think that while that may seem like a lot, it’s all part of your overall calorie consumption. I’d definitely spread it out over the course of a day. If you had 5-6 meals a day and snacks it isn’t as daunting. Stick with quality as well. Chicken - eggs - lean meats - a quality protein supplement if you need it. Finally, if you’re a little short, that won’t make a huge difference.
@nothingEvil101
@nothingEvil101 Жыл бұрын
@@chattingwithshap8010 220 grams of protein spread over 6 meals would still be 36,6 grams per meal. Every day. These high numbers are indeed absurd and not sustainable for average people.
@chattingwithshap8010
@chattingwithshap8010 Жыл бұрын
@@nothingEvil101 you’re right. But the person asking isn’t average and I didn’t say it needs to be 220. I said 3/4 to 1 gram. He is 220 and 16 percent body fat. That’s not even close to average. I didn’t want to write a super lengthy response. Getting enough protein is important for muscle growth and recovery, but it’s more of an Art than anything else. On those training days, especially harder ones it’s more necessary than on a day off or a recovery day or week. Plus, at 220 pounds getting 150 or so grams or so on certain days would be totally fine. Most people, even those who are intermediate lifters, and even some as advanced ones vary their calorie consumption regularly. But again, it’s important to see each person as unique, not cookie cutter.
@lichenwtf
@lichenwtf Жыл бұрын
I genuinely think this is one of if not the best videos exploring this topic honestly from both sides of the community. Informative and well done!
@smirbelbirbel
@smirbelbirbel Ай бұрын
I recently discovered this channel because Helms mentioned you. Being a big fan of the Iron Culture podcast, this channel is an absolute goldmine! Nuanced thought, lifting history and applicable advice, all packaged in Well-produced videos. Thanks for doing this!
@nmnate
@nmnate Жыл бұрын
Damn, Brom! You're really stepping up the effort. Can't imagine the time that went into this. Your ability to narrate is really showing. 🤘
@andyjcoop
@andyjcoop Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, this was an excellent video. Thanks
@jaysilvia1177
@jaysilvia1177 Жыл бұрын
When it can give a woman muscles bigger than most men who consistently workout, it absolutely is a super solider serum lmao
@onZampie
@onZampie Жыл бұрын
Those women also train consistently though to be fair. Most likely a lot more consitently and for a lot longer. Can't really compare female pros to dudes who have been working out for a couple years. It's not like the female pros are as big as the male pros.
@jaysilvia1177
@jaysilvia1177 Жыл бұрын
@@onZampie Take a woman who has trained for 4 years and a man who trained for 2. The man will still be considerably stronger and have far more muscle mass than the woman who has trained longer. Steroids completely change that. Combined with the fact that roids tend to be more potent for women, the female in this scenario has the potential to be just as strong and have a more muscular frame than the man within a year if she was juicing and he wasn't. The bone density changes, the muscle mass increase, the muscle fiber hardening, etc that steroids give are underestimated pretty heavily.
@guntertorfs6486
@guntertorfs6486 Жыл бұрын
@@jaysilvia1177 Exactly.
@AlkisGD
@AlkisGD Жыл бұрын
Even when it comes to men, Kumail Nanjiani was a 40-something wet noodle who became swole and shredded in months. It's not just about the end result but also the starting point and age.
@tomsnowden6201
@tomsnowden6201 Жыл бұрын
Or anabolic steroids are doing the fuck work..yeah obviously ppl on steroids lift consistently but it’s way easier.
@mikehays1167
@mikehays1167 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you for shedding light on natty vs. not natty. I started weight training at 13. I’m 45 now and continue to learn, especially from your channel. Ive been natty my whole life. In my early to mid 30’s I was my strongest squatting 300x10 and benching 285 for a 1RM. Personally, I’ve trained all of the rep ranges through a 12-week periodization program. I’ve typically only have trained my body parts once a week. I think I’ll try training them twice a week with a little lower intensity and see if I can get back up to my old numbers, although, I don’t have much hope. I think the greatest takeaway is that there’s no magic program due to our bodies always trying to adapt.
@ConnoisseurOfExistence
@ConnoisseurOfExistence Жыл бұрын
Phew, for a moment I thought you're talking about kg...
@Wildonnor
@Wildonnor 6 күн бұрын
sorry but 32 years if training and only hitting a 285lb bench isnt much of a testament to the, "stay natty, look what you can achieve narrative."
@Supersmartandfunnyguy
@Supersmartandfunnyguy Жыл бұрын
To answer your question at the end, a recent change that has worked well for me in terms of "shocking" myself out of plateaus in both size and strength is doing 6-8 week cycles of 5x20 on front squat, incline bench, RDL and OHP on their respective days, keeping the weight just light enough for about 1-2 RIR. I need a diaper change at the end of each workout. Let's just say that watching you squat 185x50 in a previous video not just how absurdly strong you are, Bromley, but also how mentally resilient you are.
@rafaelalamilla5583
@rafaelalamilla5583 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video Bromley! Very detailed and well argued on all fronts. The prominence of drug use in gym culture you presented here is quite eye-opening , and really puts much of our current culture into context.
@Bonkxd
@Bonkxd Жыл бұрын
I used to watch Bromley on 1.25 speed, looks like not anymore. Great quality video!
@lucascheidegger1625
@lucascheidegger1625 Жыл бұрын
A huge POINT to remember and understand this is that this 10-15 percent in strenght gain is when lifters stay in the same weight class if the gain muscle the Steroid related strenght gainn effect can be much higher.
@luka188
@luka188 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, in reality it's more like you'll double your numbers quite literally if you're pushing natural vs enhanced. The most major component of steroids and the like is the increased lean mass your body will grow and is able to sustain, which leads to immense increase both in strength and in size as well.
@johnsmith3859
@johnsmith3859 Жыл бұрын
@@luka188 yea the strength gain can be huge. on the downside could lead to injure with your tendons not keeping up
@sandrost4243
@sandrost4243 Жыл бұрын
Doubling your numbers is not accurate. However, your 10-15% statistic is. I used to compete at the international level and one of the russian coaches told me that he estimated about 15% strength increase from PEDs. That never left me because at that level, I was getting beat by about 10% and I was natty. I think the larger point is the recovery, the volume some of those guys can handle is insane and volume is the biggest driver of progress. You can still get stronger on PEDs with less work, but when you actually do more work, the results are astounding.
@luka188
@luka188 Жыл бұрын
@@sandrost4243 So you mean to say that PED's will only increase your lift from say, 300 kilo deadlift to a 330 kilo deadlift? How do you think Hafthor deadlifsts 501 kilograms? I already explained, you can quite literally double your numbers from using PED's versus staying natural, because of the extra lean mass your body can hold when using PED's, which is really what makes the difference and allows top level strength athletes to perform superhuman feats of strength. PED's when in the same weight class probably doesn't make that much of a difference, however the point I make is, the true strength of these PED's is how it allows you to surpass the limits of what a human body is naturally able to do massively by increasing the lean mass which can be supported by your body due to the increased testosterone levels and also the growth hormone which allows muscles to grow far larger than they otherwise could. When you remain in the same weight class, you basically only use the PED's to 10% of their effect at best. What really makes the difference is how it allows people to become 180 kilograms while only at 10-15% body fat, carrying more than 150 kilograms of lean mass, which is absolutely ludicrous.
@sandrost4243
@sandrost4243 Жыл бұрын
@@luka188 Okay I must have misunderstood your point, you are also including increased mass, i.e., putting on weight. I was indeed talking about staying in the same weight class and I was also talking about highly trained individuals, 15% is very accurate. But yes, if someone puts on 40 pounds of muscle, you could double your lifts. Apologies for misunderstanding you.
@_d0ser
@_d0ser Жыл бұрын
Bromley is still alive! All's right with the world again!
@tielvandenheuvel5168
@tielvandenheuvel5168 Жыл бұрын
Anecdotal: friend of mine (36 y/o) hopped on 200mg of test a week. Says the difference is huge, squat went 40-ish kg in a couple of months. He admits to training waaaay less hard. Since I heared that, I'm not buying any 'but we actually need to train HARDER' messages by the juiced community
@jrwitherite12
@jrwitherite12 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been on trt (120mg) for 5 years, my squat has only gone up 68 kg. Your buddy is using a Supraphysiological amount and clearly an outlier unless he was squatting under 4/500 lbs.
@tielvandenheuvel5168
@tielvandenheuvel5168 Жыл бұрын
@@jrwitherite12 to be fair, he was a little below 400. Same time: his bloodwork showed the levels of a twelve year old, so I understand his decision. His wife says he's much nicer to be around, so that's a W as well
@dadbod488
@dadbod488 Жыл бұрын
​@@tielvandenheuvel5168glad all is working out for your friend 💪
@muscularclassrepresentativ5663
@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 Жыл бұрын
That's trt lmao But yes agreed it matters
@Pepe-pq3om
@Pepe-pq3om Жыл бұрын
​​@@jrwitherite12 how are you? What are your maxes?
@Felix-lf9ng
@Felix-lf9ng Жыл бұрын
The perspectives Bromley makes us consider about training philosophies and gym culture is second to none 💪
@ConnoisseurOfExistence
@ConnoisseurOfExistence Жыл бұрын
I'm 39 and I exercise (not always consistently, have had up to 3 months off sometimes) since 15. Even before that I loved to do push-ups, pull-ups and other bodyweight exercises. I've also got into running sometimes, once I ran half marathon (by myself in the night). I have had about 3-4 cycles on steroids, all low doses, in my life. One of the bad sides of that might be, that I think my natural testosterone levels could have been higher now, should I have never used those (haven't really got bloodwork done, but my sex drive isn't at all what it once was). With that said, low levels of steroids have given me a lot of strength. On my 1st cycle, I was 19, exercising for 4 years already, and I had a plateau on the bench press, wouldn't move up from 105 kg for the last 3 months. Then I did a cycle on flat dose of 5 mg dbol per day, for 40 days. I was taking it every day with my breakfast. On the 40th day exactly my bench press increased to 135 kg. +30 kg in 40 days, I was shocked. 3 months later, without taking anything, my bench was still 135 kg, didn't lose any of that. In the light of my experience, I find it hard to believe, than anyone lifting heavy numbers can do that without PEDs. Even with the best genetics in the world, I don't see it possible to do more than 250 kg bench or over 350 squat or deadlift (or >150 kg overhead press). Even those numbers sound too high, except if you're not somehow >190 cm >170 kg monster natural freak...
@taylorg8509
@taylorg8509 Жыл бұрын
Unless your like NFL offensive lineman build 6'4 300 pounds plus Brian shaw ultra rare types but other than that ya I agree
@12MRJERSEY
@12MRJERSEY Жыл бұрын
​@@taylorg8509Those NFL players use roids too.
@dadbod488
@dadbod488 Жыл бұрын
Hell's yeah, dbol is amazing. Especially for the bench.
@danielcelisgarza
@danielcelisgarza Жыл бұрын
Your videos have improved so much in the last year. Loving it.
@BrettPeters-hq6wn
@BrettPeters-hq6wn 4 ай бұрын
Steroids have been a game-changer in my fitness routine, providing the extra edge I needed to advance more rapidly. When used with careful planning and consideration for overall health, they can be a powerful tool for anyone serious about reaching their peak potential.
@BrianColby-y4g
@BrianColby-y4g 4 ай бұрын
Test Enan is commonly used in hormone replacement therapy to address low testosterone levels, promoting muscle growth and improving overall well-being. Tren, on the other hand, greatly enhances muscle size and strength. Speeds up recovery from injuries as well.
@JustinBrown-jz2of
@JustinBrown-jz2of 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Steroids helped me recover faster and maintain muscle mass, especially during intense training or after injury. It's amazing how they can support bone health as well, which is crucial for people with conditions like osteoporosis.
@TonyBennett-f7v
@TonyBennett-f7v 4 ай бұрын
There’s no doubt to the benefits of steroids. Honestly, it has greatly impacted my life. It played a major role in achieving my desired physique. People should learn not to abuse these substances and act like they are all bad.
@WilliamsMadison-j7h
@WilliamsMadison-j7h 4 ай бұрын
Hey everyone, I’m looking for reliable sources for both steroids and protein supplements. I know it’s crucial to be cautious with these, especially with steroids, so I want to make sure I’m getting them from trustworthy sources. For protein supplements, I’m also interested in recommendations for reputable brands. Any suggestions or advice on where to find safe and high quality options?
@Joeharvey-k9v
@Joeharvey-k9v 4 ай бұрын
Jeremyproteins is the person you want. He's the most knowledgeable about muscle-building supplements that I know.
@richardpeterson4440
@richardpeterson4440 Жыл бұрын
For me I’ve seen the best results from increasing frequency. I only lift three times a week but I’ve played with variations and volume so I can squat and deadlift three times every two weeks and press every session. This took a lot of tweaking and self regulation. I picture my program as these overlapping circles of volume and I can’t go too hard on any given day.
@BassThrasher
@BassThrasher Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Would love to hear a bit more detail, if you wouldn't mind sharing.
@richardpeterson4440
@richardpeterson4440 Жыл бұрын
M1 Pwr clean Back squat Incline bench W1 Pwr snatch Clean deadlift Strict OHP F1 Jerk Snatch deadlift Bench M2 Pwr clean Back Squat Incline bench W2 Pwr snatch Front squat Strict OHP F2 Jerk Deadlift Bench Generally move fast, move heavy then press. I will often superset the pressing motions with some sort of row. Pretty basic progressions. Lots of triples on the OLY movements. 10s on the SBD. Worked my way to singles over 16 weeks. For context I used the program as an off-season peak for a supertotal. I generally give strongman movements a break during the winter. I love log and stones and stuff but find winter is a good time for some variety.
@BassThrasher
@BassThrasher Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Appreciate it.
@DieselGlori
@DieselGlori Жыл бұрын
I'm a pro natty BB and I loved your intro lol And I love that you're diving into the performance motivations and benefits
@tomguglielmo9805
@tomguglielmo9805 Жыл бұрын
I hope the title is satire. Because some steroids or peds are literally soldier super serum. They change your mentality, or exaggerate it negatively.
@Annon194
@Annon194 Жыл бұрын
I stalled on Madcows 5x5 with only a 245 bench. One day I said screw this stupid math crap and just started working hard. In just 6 weeks I added 40lbs to my bench. I benched hard, heavy and frequently. It makes sense a lot of these programs were written by enhanced lifters because I didn’t make gains for shit on these “intermediate programs”.
@bobbyhill4118
@bobbyhill4118 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never liked the idea of a 5x5 unless it’s for squat or deadlift. And with deadlifts I still prefer warming up and doing 3x3’s because deads are taxing. When I squat 5x5’s I usually lower the weight after my first set and continually lower it by small increments. Math crap will never get you stronger really. You have to use math crap to determine what kind of hard work you’re able to do. That means recording your lifts and tracking your strength.
@bobbyhill4118
@bobbyhill4118 Жыл бұрын
I kinda like to warm up to a set of 3 reps for squat or deadlift, then do sets of hopefully 5 around a weight I should be able to do for 5 in my head and track my lifts for that day.
@rioraber8095
@rioraber8095 Жыл бұрын
A lot of good info and perspective here. For me, through the past 20 years Ive found not training to failure, and rather training around RPE 7 for both size and strength is far far more effective. I personally cannot agree that natural lifters should train their sets to failure... whereas I believe enhanced, you can and should train to failure occassionally. If and when I go off the natty train, will be interesting to see how my training can change and be effective for gains
@landonconverse7995
@landonconverse7995 Жыл бұрын
Been natural through my whole journey. 220 lb weight loss from almost 400 to 150 and now I am up around 183. Been about 4 years and I’ve noticed what you have said is very true. Plateaus come very frequent and now with your information I am going to train a bit differently. You’ve earned yourself a sub for being a true fitness connoisseurs, thank you buddy ❤
@dreamdiction
@dreamdiction Жыл бұрын
Wow - you more than halved you body weight. How long did it take and how many calories were you eating per day?
@landonconverse7995
@landonconverse7995 Жыл бұрын
@@dreamdiction well I basically went from drinking almost a 12 pack of Mountain Dew per day, as well as eating absolutely horribly. The end of 2018 I was like 400. I am assuming I was I taking just from that an absolutely incredible amount I don’t even know but it was bad. I then started my weight loss journey with 0 knowledge which was a stupid mistake. I barely ate anything and completely stayed away from any kind of sugar or carbs completely because of the things I read in the internet and it really worked. I was around 250 at this point and I still did not workout at all and I lost all that within a few months because I was literally eating like nothing. I went down to around 200 and I started feeling like shit completely, and at this point we are at the 6-8 month range. I at this point developed body dysmorphia and I think an eating disorder because of the fact that food in my mind was the devil so I ate just enough to get by. Hitting around the 1 year mark I was at 152 lbs and I felt HORRIBLE! I then decided that now was the time to start working out and eating food again since I knew that I had run out of energy completely and I looked like I had no muscle but fat still so it was horrible to even look in a mirror. So for the first year of working out I watched some but not a ton of videos and did mostly reading and watching people with no guidance so my beginning was very skewed. I got muscle but could not gain weight for anything and I ended up hitting a plateau from my newbie gains. I then in my second year did a lot more research and found people like daddy Noel and Sean N and then started to realize the benefits of eating and being okay with myself and trusting the process. I recommend to anyone starting the journey that I took to use your weight to your advantage and train hard, study hard and do it the right way because if I had I would’ve been an absolute friggen unit by now haha. Anyways here we are in 2023 and today I have been trying to main gain and I am sitting at 185 lean muscle. I will continue to workout for the rest of my life and I will take myself to the absolute limit naturally. I appreciate all who read this whole thing as I am a living example of the downside of self image and remember you can do ANYThING you set your mind too. I love every one of the kings out there looking out for himself, maybe I will start a channel just to talk with people about there journey and men’s positive mental health. Have a great day everyone and much love ❤️
@dreamdiction
@dreamdiction Жыл бұрын
@@landonconverse7995 Thanks, all I would add to what you have said is that muscle only re-grows while you are asleep so getting a full eight hours of good quality deep sleep every night is ideal for building muscle.
@RexNicolaus
@RexNicolaus Жыл бұрын
@@landonconverse7995Imagining drinking a 12 pack of Mountain Dew now, for me, makes me wanna puke lol. Congrats on the weight loss journey.
@landonconverse7995
@landonconverse7995 Жыл бұрын
@@RexNicolaus yea it was a very dark 10 years, thanks buddy I appreciate you
@lukebbuff
@lukebbuff Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being the voice of reason on these topics. So few people are honest about this while still bring reasonable about the huge progression natural lifters can have.
@Tespri
@Tespri Жыл бұрын
no one says they can't progress. What he made is known as strawman fallacy.
@BobBobby-kt4sc
@BobBobby-kt4sc Жыл бұрын
@@Tespri Elaborate what you mean by that.
@Tespri
@Tespri Жыл бұрын
@@BobBobby-kt4sc google strawman
@jakehallam2113
@jakehallam2113 Жыл бұрын
Solid video. Glad you mentioned how strength training can aide in hypertrophy. I decided to give a pyramid set a try and found that It boosted my 12 rep max on OHP from 20kg to 25kg after months of stagnation. Overall I think that the take away here is that natty's should train smarter AND harder.
@Lwhosane
@Lwhosane Жыл бұрын
I have been a novice bb for years. I recently started oly lifts and focusing on strength and speed. I’m 40 tho and your “ big dreams and bad genes” comment explains my entire life. Love it!
@Isaiah-ft5nx
@Isaiah-ft5nx Жыл бұрын
My best gains are when I accidentally planned 2-3 times per week per body part. I had a “bro split” I made 6 day split where the focus of each day was something like this: Quads, chest, arms, hammies and glutes, shoulders, back. I didn’t realize why, but my triceps, back, biceps, and glutes were huge. Everything else struggled. Well, those were the body parts that saw 2-3x per week of training. Everything else was only hit once a week. 😂 100% natural btw, never had a chance to try it or I might have in the past.
@Psupower250
@Psupower250 Жыл бұрын
I did a split similar but 3 on, one off. Chest, quads, back, rest, triceps, snatch grip deadlifts/post chain, biceps, rest repeat. Triceps day consisted of heavy cg floor presses or cg bench so chest was hit as well. Bicep day always started off with dead hang chins so my upper back got hit then I did the basic curl stuff. I sprinkled in lateral variations on chest day and tricep days and rear delts on upper back and bicep days. Might go back to that once it gets hot as I train in garage. Quick sessions. Bulgarians or lunges after my snatch grip DL variation so quads got hit as well. Leg curls before squats on quad day. Chest day is always an incline, flat variation and end with v bar dips so triceps get hit. Upper back always starts with dead hang neutral chins then supported rows, if up to it maybe some empty bar poundstone curls for xtra bicep work. Loaded carries occasionally at the end of squat or deadlift day for the yoke. Natty as well at 45
@damnwolf
@damnwolf Жыл бұрын
I have been riding on the gains of a 3x week Full Body approach for a while now (really enjoy the meals I need before the resulting 2hr workout to properly carbload too :D.) I love how I can modulate the body part or part thereof focus by playing with order, repetition and rep range. Hurray.
@3-dreticle826
@3-dreticle826 Жыл бұрын
You just disprove this video. No roided powerlifter or Bodybuilder trains like that. They split everything up. Bro split or PPL typically. Or some variation. Most people that do fullbody are straight up natty and have jobs. Unlike these clowns online. This is just more justification for roiders ruining lifting
@johankaruyan5536
@johankaruyan5536 Жыл бұрын
@@3-dreticle826 what the heck are you even talking about how did he disprove it ?
@bigt1013
@bigt1013 Жыл бұрын
Bro I do this. Chest tris and shoulders 3 days, back and biceps on the other 3. Legs on back day. I do too much volume for core I used to do core but simply don’t have time anymore.
@paulmryglod4802
@paulmryglod4802 Жыл бұрын
Personal anecdote: trained from 20-25. Went from 135 to 190 10-15% body fat. Best numbers were 315 bench, 425 squat, 505 deadlift, 225 overhead press. At 35, went on trt. Total test at 800. 315 total before trt. After one year went from 185 to 205 lbs. Bench 385, squat 485, deadlift 575, overhead press 265, strict curl 135. Fat went from 18% to 10%. This is just trt in normal range. The stuff works. Edited: total, not free test levels. 800 free would be nuts
@funeraldirector5069
@funeraldirector5069 Жыл бұрын
Did you continue to lift between 25-35?
@paulmryglod4802
@paulmryglod4802 Жыл бұрын
@Funeral Director no. kids, work, building a business. I started back up about 6 months before trt
@jacobtaylor7506
@jacobtaylor7506 Жыл бұрын
Damn, 35 and taking TRT? I'm 39 and not taking trt. I'm squatting 425lb, deadlift 500lb, bench 325. But I been almost nonstop exercising since the military.
@paulmryglod4802
@paulmryglod4802 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobtaylor7506 yep. Had some tbi and couldn't recover from it. Tried for years beforehand.
@Gorgutsforcongress
@Gorgutsforcongress Жыл бұрын
That's literally too many numbers. Just eat chicken and lift heavier rock each week.
@Adam-wt5id
@Adam-wt5id Жыл бұрын
I wrestled when i was young and have always worked out well. I have struggled to bulk my entire life, for me its a struggle to eat enough. I have been tempted to go on a cycle many times, but always remember why I started in the first place, it was never about getting big to me, it was about bringing out the best im capable of. I dont mind steroid use as long as you’re honest about it, but im looking to test and craft the body i was born with, and have learned to accept i wont ever be able to hit 200 lbs (my original goal weight). Im happy fluctuating between 170-180 while staying lean, and i was the scrawny guy competing at 133 when i was 16. Embrace what feels healthy
@sandrost4243
@sandrost4243 Жыл бұрын
When I talked to one of Boris Sheiko's assistant coaches many years back, he said the Russians quantified the benefit of lifters using PEDs vs those who do not (for highly trained athletes). They arrived at a figure that was approximately 15%. That's 15% on your total if you are highly trained natty vs. on gear. If you total 1500 pounds natural, you'll be ballpark 1725 with gear. Anecdotally, from my experience (20+ competitive), this seems pretty accurate. It's the difference from an Elite powerlifter to an international elite or world ranked lifter.
@dennisthorson4159
@dennisthorson4159 Жыл бұрын
I would totally believe that being enhanced with just test base would give you a 10-20% strength and size increase. But ain't many just running that these days - we got designer stuff now that implodes strength with very little mass increase you can take in addition to just the test.
@muscularclassrepresentativ5663
@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 Жыл бұрын
The 15% strength increases is at a given weight. Obviously the main benefit is weight gain and gaining muscle will massively increase you strength in the long run. I'm like 3x stronger now lol. But the 15% is if I was the exact same size (after a much longer training period as a natty) then my enhanced body would still be 15% stronger with identical muscle mass
@rolandogarciaiii6458
@rolandogarciaiii6458 8 ай бұрын
Superb video and very informative. Thank you - keep up the great work!
@NattyLifeYT
@NattyLifeYT Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and nuanced video. Thank you, I really enjoyed it
@larsporsena9529
@larsporsena9529 Жыл бұрын
Colab!
@exzackt
@exzackt 11 ай бұрын
I liked how you included a compilation of clips from other KZbinrs, very thorough
@JH-pe3ro
@JH-pe3ro Жыл бұрын
All through my 20's I was an overtrain-and-crash natty lifter, because I did try to go to the gym super frequently and push myself hard and tried some dumb stuff. There were some results, but I've been able to dial that stuff back in the past few years and go down the route of calisthenics, bands work, cycling. I'm probably undertraining now - I might be hitting something like 1.5 times a week, with a lot of "just do a little warmup" sessions and then one bigger one - but it's in a relatively healthy place, where I'm not pummeling myself with fatigue and I can focus on other parts of life.
@Mlamb3
@Mlamb3 4 ай бұрын
0p😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊p
@black.sasuke.uchiha
@black.sasuke.uchiha 11 ай бұрын
The last 3 chapters were very helpful for me, as I am still workshopping how exactly progressive overload works. And I love how at the very end of the video, they included the part where he reaches to rip the mic off and be like “finally I’m done with this crap.”😅I subscribed, keep it up!
@elevationspeaker
@elevationspeaker Жыл бұрын
I’ve been training naturally for 15+ years. I’m an army veteran of 8 years, I’ve competed in both an NPC and OCB show where I won 5th place medals in my classic physique category. Doing a show with enhanced guys and doing a show with all my natural guys didn’t make a difference in my placing. It showed me what work and dedication can begin to get you if you stay committed to it. I performed exceptional next to enhanced guys and it was challenging to beat all natural guys on my kind of level as well. So consider that every show is different but every choice you make will always be up to your ability to build self love and mental fortitude for the work and the journey. I still train today and I’m working to become a better boxer now and I look every bit as young in my 30s as I did in my 20s… STAY NATURAL UNLESS YOU CAN HONESTLY SAY YOURE CLOSE TO A REAL BREAKTHROUGH ON THAT KIND OF LEVEL and if you do CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR FIRST. Much love everyone.
@NazriB
@NazriB Жыл бұрын
Lies again? Killing yourself is not solution
@MariusMitrache
@MariusMitrache Жыл бұрын
I did way better as a natural, I was on the top of my game but I struggled way more enhanced. When everyone is natural there's as much leveled playfield as you can gen, when we talk enhanced some people are willing to really push it and some try to stay in the safe zone, a bit above TRT if possible and results can and will differ accordingly.
@Ryan-wx1bi
@Ryan-wx1bi 11 ай бұрын
Except guys can easily get away with competing in natural competitions while on the juice.
@thewamp9306
@thewamp9306 Жыл бұрын
I love this video. I have been working out for a while and only have gotten really serious about it in the last few months. I have already plateaued on my squats, although my bench and deadlift are still going up. I have gone to different forums and asked different people what I could do to make my squat go up, and I've been getting an alarming amount of people telling me to "jump on gear, bro." I'm only 5'7" and have been told by some coaches who casually watch me as I work out at my college Athletic Center that I'm "built for running," which I agree. Putting on any muscle takes a lot of work and food, but I've always had great endurance when doing cardio. Those gym bros who tell me to jump on gear are astonished when I tell them I don't want to. It's not because I'm taking the "higher path in life" or anything. When I get older, I probably will go on TRT, but I don't see the point right now. I suspect my body won't react well to it, and I don't want to risk destroying my body's hormones just to up some numbers on a lift. As I said, it's terrifying that many guys think gear is a super serum that makes anyone into Arnold or Ronnie-level freaks of nature. As Tom Platz once said, "Steroids don't turn Volkswagens into Ferraris".
@dudefromnorth9410
@dudefromnorth9410 Жыл бұрын
For natty lifter intensity is most important factor, everything else is secondary. Intensity + calories will get you gains. Try to have spotter and do somewhere around 5 reps per set in bench & take it to failure. Last rep of last set is good to be forced with assistant. This is what have worked for me. I have trained 5 years mostly calisthenics & noticed everytime my intensity drops i platoon.
@lx_ol
@lx_ol Жыл бұрын
Awesome video sir, you really narrowed down the science of P.E.D. usage and natural lifting to a T. I'm going to implement these suggested training ideas to my splits. 11/10🏆
@umairahmad4774
@umairahmad4774 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this top set of information ❤
@lorddeathspit1124
@lorddeathspit1124 Жыл бұрын
I never used peds but it’s pretty cool what people can accomplish when they throw health on the backburner. I kinda look at the enhanced like stuntmen. I ain’t willing to but I wanna see it.
@DennisFutball2396
@DennisFutball2396 Жыл бұрын
Good video, and thanks for the Earthworm Jim reference 😃
@MrEverisforever
@MrEverisforever Жыл бұрын
Bro splits do work, I added 25kgs of muscle over 10 years, I went from 55kgs to 80kgs @ 9% bodyfat. I don't do them anymore but I wouldn't say training with more volume added that much size to my frame, mostly just strength. I'm a powerlifter now though. Also, my legs aren't small due to genetics but I've never spent a lot of time on them so that weight is mostly on my upperbody as I do bench-only powerlifting. Luckily with genetics though my body looks fairly balanced. I've now been training 17 years with no drugs and will never take. I'm 5'8 at currently 98kgs @ 20% BF with 18 inch arms.
@RevivalOfSka
@RevivalOfSka Жыл бұрын
Discovered you a couple of weeks ago and you have become my favourite lifting channel. Impartial, evidence based approach, explained intelligently in an engaging way with clarity. Thank you for all you do.
@keeblerelf3694
@keeblerelf3694 Жыл бұрын
The difference between tested and untested is immense for powerlifting. I refuse to go to drug tested meets anymore, went to one and almost fell asleep during the bench press.
@loungeroomlifting2223
@loungeroomlifting2223 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@toximan2008
@toximan2008 Жыл бұрын
@@loungeroomlifting2223 tested meets have a neutered atmosphere
@grahamgrant9421
@grahamgrant9421 Жыл бұрын
At the top of my list of things i find pleasing it has to be listening to the charismatic and flawless way this guy delivers a podcast!
@DieselGlori
@DieselGlori Жыл бұрын
"SCIENCE IN THE STREETS, BRO IN THE SHEETS " 😭👏🏾👏🏾
@HellBoy-id6ss
@HellBoy-id6ss Жыл бұрын
Look at you gettin all fancy with the B-roll footage..one of your best vids ever..
@SLouiss
@SLouiss Жыл бұрын
Great editing. Feels like a documentary. Reminds me of the ZT MPMD team up & Josh Brett Videos. The memes were fun too. I appreciated the audio clip from The Office
@andremoraes119
@andremoraes119 Жыл бұрын
Niceeee congrats for the video bro
@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki
@Abraham_Kist-Okazaki Жыл бұрын
Dr. Mike's take on Greg Nuckols' research is actually a little off. He is comparing, for example, the strength of a 100KG natty lifter to that of a 100KG enhanced lifter and noting the difference between the two is somewhere around 10%. Now, that is not telling us what will happen to the strength levels of that 100KG natty guy after that guy himself goes on gear. PEDs not only help in adding mass and strength, they also help in the reduction of body fat. In other words, that 100KG natty guy could stay at 100KG with significant added strength and size. I would guess that he would make a lot more than ten percent gains.
@kevinm7523
@kevinm7523 Жыл бұрын
Consistency is a HUGE HUGE part. I'm 48 yo truck driver, been lifting since '92, if I spend more than 8-9 days away from the gym I need a minimum of 2 workouts just to begin to see or feel anything resembling a pump or a result. And I micro dose test during weeks away from the iron
@Ryan83728
@Ryan83728 Жыл бұрын
you take test when youre away from the iron only?
@kevinm7523
@kevinm7523 Жыл бұрын
@Ryan83728 I take test regularly, I increase the loading to approx 200 mg per week while I'm working out and down to approx 100 mg when I'm away for any period of time
@nealstaten5193
@nealstaten5193 Жыл бұрын
I started full body workout cycle with three days a week with every workout have the big three started to brine out and changed it to two days a week and so far it’s been working better the strength I started out with has improved and I keep getting stronger
@nicklewis6888
@nicklewis6888 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100k subscribers 🦾
@Givelasagna
@Givelasagna Жыл бұрын
Im 35, I was natty going on about 2 years, didn't see much gains nor a lot of strength buildup (and this was going to the gym 4 to 5 times a week). Decided to jump into small dosages of test and an estrogen blocker, and I have to say, my pumps jumped up like no other. It was like the missing piece to a puzzle. Not encouraging supplement use, but I'm pretty sure it wayy easier for younger people to stay natty.
@Sorted906
@Sorted906 Жыл бұрын
Best a luck with the man boobs. They’ll be meeting you down the road 😂
@HerbanMagi
@HerbanMagi Жыл бұрын
34 and I wanna get on so bad, have no clue how tho smh…
@Tespri
@Tespri Жыл бұрын
@@HerbanMagi Go to T test and if you score low then you will get permission to legally buy it. IF you have normal or higher than normal T... Well... You can always go to weightloss journey to artificially drop your T levels to the bottom.
@Frille512
@Frille512 10 ай бұрын
Buying testosterone is beta as fuck. At that point you're just admitting that you weren't meant to be a man in the first place
@marwansamy2673
@marwansamy2673 Жыл бұрын
Great video even a year later, really got me thinking about ways i could improve my training and also gave me a way better understanding of gear. Im getting towards the 2 year mark of my lifitng journey now so i think its time for me to try different methods of progressive overload and programming to break some of my plateuing muscle groups and work on some of my weakpoints. Cheers for another banger vid.
@alo_tsl8252
@alo_tsl8252 Жыл бұрын
I feel like being natural is the most important part of my fitness journey. I mainly train to push my limits and see what my body can achieve just by eating and training. Plus being healthy is a really big bonus, so it's a win win situation :)
@iagosalomon
@iagosalomon Жыл бұрын
Othe best video a natural could ask for, never seen something so dense packed with good information for natural lifters. Without this really takes sometime to aquire information not even mentioning the time it takes a to filter them all
@shycreation9418
@shycreation9418 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 185lb natty whos been training for a bit over a year and is obsessed with watching 100s of hours of videos on strength and muscle gain. I train very hard 2-3 hours a day (think I tore my bicep though), eat more than enough, but my gains/and muscle/weight gain have slowed to a crawl. I know I'll continue to progress very slowly for the next however many years it just kinda sucks knowing I could skip yearrssss of training hoping on
@WH-sz3bh
@WH-sz3bh Жыл бұрын
Get that bicep checked fam. If it's torn, get the surgery no matter what.
@shycreation9418
@shycreation9418 Жыл бұрын
@@WH-sz3bh I wishhh. paid out of pocket for a physical therapist and looked into mri/ultrasounds but they're too expensive for me without insurance let alone surgery... Just gotta deal with it now. Lost significant size in my left arm trying to baby it the past couple months
@WH-sz3bh
@WH-sz3bh Жыл бұрын
@@shycreation9418 Look into getting medicaid. Once you're on it you can get the surgery. I had it last year and it can save your arm. I think it's worth going into debt for. Your window for doing the surgery isn't that big. You can do it later, but it just gets harder due to scarring and tissue change.
@WH-sz3bh
@WH-sz3bh Жыл бұрын
@@shycreation9418 I can curl 85 lb dumbbells on each side now when 45 was my max after tearing it.
@shycreation9418
@shycreation9418 Жыл бұрын
@@WH-sz3bh how much was surgery?.... I could hammer 70s before, now legit like 15lbs(left hand) without it feeling like I'm doing harm to it
@theflamegamer4813
@theflamegamer4813 Жыл бұрын
The biggest thing im taking from this is that I should get a trainers help at the start while building a workout routine.
@StrengthScholar0
@StrengthScholar0 Жыл бұрын
People keep on ignoring the fact the people who take steroids can skip all the hard years of hitting and breaking through plateaus that naturals have to go through. They can basically sprint to their natural limit within a period of a year or two. Considering the vast majority of natural lifters will never hit their genetic potential this is the largest benefit of steroids for the average user.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Жыл бұрын
Thats entirely made up
@illegallegal8948
@illegallegal8948 11 ай бұрын
​@AlexanderBromley basically yes but no I would argue that a noob that takes gear with a good training and diat would look pretty good in a year but not better than what he would achieve by 3 years of natural good training I just experience it by two brothers the one natural for 5 year and his bro that got him in less than 2 years on gear
@ekaterinab6064
@ekaterinab6064 Жыл бұрын
awesome vid. i clicked on it because i work in substance use and we have clients that use PEDs and although I have done a little powerlifting myself I didn't really know anything about them. this covered a lot, thankyou.
@DrTopLiftDPT
@DrTopLiftDPT Жыл бұрын
Noble natties there are some of us out there. Stay natty fellas
@Pantelifts10
@Pantelifts10 Жыл бұрын
💯
@meatslide
@meatslide 11 ай бұрын
I juiced for a while. It's not worth all of the long-term health risks. I regret it so much. Stay natural. Just be the best version of you.
@aidanc669
@aidanc669 Жыл бұрын
I have no issue at all with people using. It’s when they try and fool People with “I am all natural” They still are insanely dedicated and it takes a huge amount of work. Just don’t try and say it’s natural. I hate that
@plaidchuck
@plaidchuck Жыл бұрын
If they want to lie and live in a fool’s paradise that’s fine too. But if they want to take peoples money and promise the same results as natty yeah then it’s straight up fraud
@howy3333
@howy3333 Жыл бұрын
Ive been lifting natty for 30 yrs!! Yes 30 yrs employing progressive resistance throughout most of it. It is pretty easy to master how to get/stay lean however were fairly limited in size compared to juicers. Strength wise lower body movements I find we can be close to the juice community but benching we cant touch them....
@BusinessWolf1
@BusinessWolf1 Жыл бұрын
No one is saying steroids are the only reason they look like that. We're only saying, you can not look like that without them. That's it.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Жыл бұрын
Lol based on all of the people you didn't poll? Either way, you have no idea what someone can look like without drugs. There are tribe members in sub Saharan Africa who wouldnt pass a natty or not. You all are guessing (poorly) and, in the face of no real information, the gaps get filled with insecurity and ego.
@jayclean5653
@jayclean5653 Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexanderBromleyCalm down, bozo. We get that you need to defend yourself.
@stickedice1979
@stickedice1979 Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexanderBromleywe know that nobody can look like Ronnie Colman without steroids.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Жыл бұрын
@stickedice1979 yep
@Tespri
@Tespri Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley No clue where the poll was done, but certainly doesn't express my views. Of course you need to workout to gain muscles, but it's ridiculous to think that those gains can be gained naturally, especially in as short time frame. "There are tribe members in sub Saharan Africa who wouldnt pass a natty or not. " Name one, Whenever I look at "tribe members" in actual natural environment they all look like bunch of skinny fat people.
@samlazar1053
@samlazar1053 11 ай бұрын
In 1960 the entire USA Olympics weightlifters team was jacked on potent steroids called daca durabolin. They still lost and won bronze
@dfwpiper1
@dfwpiper1 Жыл бұрын
You, sir, are like the Doug Wilson of the lifting world. Everything is well said, informative and engaging!
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus Жыл бұрын
Strength day (legs) Technique day (full body) Power day (torso, either horizontal, or vertical, never both) Power day (legs, sometimes overhead included) Technique day (full body) Strength day (torso, again same plane) Rest (Saturday) It works for me. I basically am training the shoulder girdle and lower body daily either directly or inadvertently, esp since I picked up clubbells, my shoulders have never been happier being mobilized, even strengthened, daily. I train in waves like a restart week, a builder week, another builder week, a peak week, and grounding week, and then a deload week before I "restart,
@FreddyonAcid
@FreddyonAcid Жыл бұрын
We’re gonna go with no.
@stefanomagaddino6868
@stefanomagaddino6868 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Brom. Thanks. It reenforced my belief in what I have been doing. Will watch it again, since there's so much information.
@Hazyhyperion4130
@Hazyhyperion4130 Жыл бұрын
Wish I saw content like this earlier on. I realize alot of advice on the internet is geared toward enhanced training. A huge thing I've learned that took my training to the next level is learning that 10-20 sets, got to hit a body part 2 times or more a week to grow, and hypertrophic ranges are relative. Once I understood this, I started training full body hard training 3 days a week. Did less work and got more gains. Since then I just progressively overload from there.
@Jester343
@Jester343 4 ай бұрын
Another factor is if your goal isnt entirely hypertrophy. If you're training for cardio, seperate it by at least 6 hours as the research shows that it's more optimal for improvements by doing this. Cardio doesn't kill gains (unless you're starving) just don't think both won't affect the other.
@dansmith9724
@dansmith9724 Жыл бұрын
The things that got my natty gains moving many years ago was moving to short full-bodied workouts of 5-8 exercises twice a week and these exercises could be different. The other major difference was cycling my training intensity. So many guys train flat out all the time and it doesn't work for nattys. The book Brawn, opened my eyes to these ideas and got me quite far before I decided to dabble in the dark side but I still found I needed the cycling intensity with short abbreviated workouts. Although fluff work ie throw in some light curls etc for high reps actually worked. In a natty state it would be a waste of time and I would be better just using my energy to hit heavy compound exercises like bb rows and they would do more for arms than a couple of pump sets of curls would.
@robertquinlan8063
@robertquinlan8063 Жыл бұрын
As a natural training tactics matter so much more. Most people jump on gear because they simply don’t know how to get past the plateaus. It seems like you really learned how to train first before dabbling.
@michelrood2966
@michelrood2966 Жыл бұрын
No one cares bru
@dansmith9724
@dansmith9724 Жыл бұрын
@robertquinlan8063 bru, most don't even have a basic strength level before starting gear. Most commercial gyms you rarely see someone squatting or benching 2 plates aside drug free even after a reasonable amount of time training. That shows you they don't know how to train. The recommended Drug free standards to reach or get close to is 3 plates on the bench, 4 on the Squat, 5 on deads. I have noticed some guys can reach the deadlift mark but not the Squat and vice versa, I think it's a genetic thing. I think if you can get within 10% of those marks, you're doing well and probably stand out as one of the strongest in most commercial gyms. If you walked into a powerlifting gym you'd probably be humbled quickly though.
@robertquinlan8063
@robertquinlan8063 Жыл бұрын
@@dansmith9724 yes for sure. But if they want to look aesthetic faster they jump on and don’t care about strength. Though I think naturally you do eventually have to become stronger for more gains.
@mihajlostosic2647
@mihajlostosic2647 Жыл бұрын
I have to applaud you for the effort put into these newer videos. Great work, keep it up!
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams Жыл бұрын
Around 1-in 10 Gym members here in the UK use Peds... From my personal experience my old Gym friends who took them no longer train due to health issues (from Peds) while I'm still training(drug free)... It's sad to see them now...
@kevinsj99
@kevinsj99 Жыл бұрын
Been following you since you were at Empire Barbell, love your content Bromley!
@timothyharrison8177
@timothyharrison8177 Жыл бұрын
Except that steroids are a super serum lmao. All these gearheads downplaying the potency and effectiveness of anabolics.
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Жыл бұрын
I was wondering when we were going to hear from a real authority on the effectiveness of anabolics! As a non-serious lifter who has never used PEDs, I'm also interested to hear your take on the 'human genetic limit' that you're 4 standard deviations away from.
@timothyharrison8177
@timothyharrison8177 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromleyLol sarcasm is all you got. Clown 🤡
@unban_me
@unban_me Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley And blasting gear for 20 years doesn't make you an authority on the subject. Especially when you still look like a dyel manlet. That would be the equivalent of a heroin addict thinking he's an expert on chemistry. Please stop pretending like you aren't completely biased on this subject
@Legitzimo.
@Legitzimo. Жыл бұрын
This channel is golden through and through
@akshat3516
@akshat3516 Жыл бұрын
What is your general opinion on the “noble natty community”?
@adamlindsey7591
@adamlindsey7591 Жыл бұрын
it's a cult thats as potentially as bad as the woke cult is.
@DerMacher702
@DerMacher702 Жыл бұрын
​@@SUPER8ALTERN8arnold is still training
@steamAwesOmeS
@steamAwesOmeS Жыл бұрын
Watching videos like this make me think i was lucky to get the gains i did staying in the 8-12 reps range for a loooooong time.
@testuser247
@testuser247 Жыл бұрын
so why dont you press 335lbs as an ex steroid user right now?
@PandaLead3
@PandaLead3 Жыл бұрын
The subtle GDoucette dig regarding "harder than last time" while also showing him being right in something else is the balance Thanos craves.
@_d0ser
@_d0ser Жыл бұрын
Fed jokes. Globalism jokes. Gold video, the one that will break the 100k subscriber natty-limit.
@firesupportman0861
@firesupportman0861 Жыл бұрын
This video was 10/10, Bromley. I watched it all the way through a few times because there’s just so much top notch information in here that cuts through all the BS. Thanks for all you do and keep ‘em coming, sir!
@ascensionfraternity
@ascensionfraternity Жыл бұрын
Wow. Great video. It's amazing how you covered so many different topics that all stay coherently relevant to the theme of the video.
@modemarcoj8026
@modemarcoj8026 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video, I appreciate the time and energy you put into these very calculated videos
@patrickmurphy8008
@patrickmurphy8008 Жыл бұрын
Natural, do full body 2 or 3x a week, mostly 2. It's been incredibly hard for me to recover and make progress because I work as a climber for a tree service M-F, and I'm toasted from work on the weekdays, leg and arm inflammation, fatigued back, etc
@nightfighter7452
@nightfighter7452 Жыл бұрын
Ayeee, I'm a climber too (a beginner that probably doesn't climb as often but still). Recently started a 5/3/1 program and probably have to cut out so much accessory work because I can never seem to eat enough between that and climbing, dragging brush and carrying logs all day. I need to start working on my cardio again too because it's starting to get harder lol
@danielwall5914
@danielwall5914 Жыл бұрын
That is WAAY too much, imho. Unless you train with low intensity? I say this only because it was the same for me, i was overtraining for the first 15-20 years of my fitness journey. Sometimes less is more and we need to use our discipline to stay OUT of the gym and use our time and resources for smart recovery instead. Maybe try hitting the muscles once per week but with higher intensity and low volume for a little while and see if the results get better?
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