Steve Jobs (2015) - Why do people think I fired you?

A scene from the 2015 Steve Jobs movie, the pacing, dialogue, and acting are well done. Jeff Daniels was amazing in his portrayal of former Apple CEO John Sculley.

[@EmmaSaints]

"Whoever said the customer is always right was, I promise you, a customer." Working in the service industry, I think about this quote quite often.

[@SuperMageo]

What do you mean exactly? HP makes printers that become obsolete by design. In this regard I´d think the customer was right when complaining that their printer stopped working after three years

[@EmmaSaints]

@@SuperMageo I'm not saying the customer is never right, just simply saying that entitled customers where I work have been enabled by this detrimental philosophy. Some clients are abusive, and what happens when you tell an abusive person "you are always right"? You give them power they should never have. They start seeing the dynamic as a master and his slave, instead of a collaboration so that both parties get what they want.

[@bignerd5529]

Sad how the quite has led to too many entitled asshats to be so abusive towards workers just doing their job

[@peterl3417]

What Jobs meant I think, is that to truly reshape the world, you must break out of the supply and demand cycle and change what the demand even *IS*. He didn’t show the current customers what they wanted, he TOLD them what they will want.

[@cybercop0083]

I’m a „both sides“ kinda gal, homeslice.

[@stephanooblus]

People don't give this movie enough recognition imo. Complete masterpiece.

[@SalvableRuin]

I think they do. What would you like them to do instead?

[@stephanooblus]

@@SalvableRuin i dunno... Recognise the movie? 😂 What a strange question.

[@stephanooblus]

@@a-my9ql did Sorkin sleep with your partner?

[@a-my9ql]

@@stephanooblus No, but if you're defending a rotten person like Sorkin you're probably his love partner bud.

[@stephanooblus]

@@a-my9ql you're so triggered over a movie

[@davadh]

"Can I mention something to you?" "Sure" "I have no earthly idea why you're here" LOL

[@WatercraftGames]

Yes.

[@umangsingh2596]

This scene alone is worthy of a Oscar!!

[@aguyfromnothere]

The best thing that happened to Jobs was losing at Apple and learning from it.

[@pnut3844able]

He quit, he didn't lose his job.

[@thrillhouse4784]

He was a maniac, he definitely got himself fired

[@kiethveseyofficial]

@@thrillhouse4784 An egomaniac I may add.

[@dynagaming2693]

@@pnut3844ableit was a forced resignation. The myth does still persist that he was fired, but the events as mentioned did actually play out very similar to the movie, where Steve tried to stage a coupé and someone tipped off John Scully who was on his way to China. And yes, it was in the middle of the night. Basically Steve tried to fight dirty and do it while his back was turned.

[@rayvinkrossing]

"I'm okay losing, but I'm not gonna forfeit." Ngl, that line hits different in context.

[@ChrisWolff2013]

" Don't play stupid. You can't pull it off." A great, underrated line

[@TechOutAdam]

"Don't play stupid. You can't pull it off." is actually a really good compliment.

[@UsmanKhan-gg6fi]

This film is a masterpiece. It’s an action movie with words and words alone. Fassbender was excellent, Rogen was great and Daniels was just so so so good. This film is an actors film.

[@jacechretin4597]

I wish there were more serious films with Jeff Daniels, because this performance alone was worth the ticket admission.

[@DrVVVinK]

@@jacechretin4597 Have you seen Squid and the Whale?

[@jacechretin4597]

@@DrVVVinK not yet although it is on my list.

[@alexestrada2757]

@@jacechretin4597 Daniels in The Newsroom was stellar. I really wish that show went one more season

[@negtype13]

ABSOLUTELY! This is without doubt, an actor's argot if you will! And as good as the Rogen/Fass scene is (along w/multiple by Winset)...This one EPITOMIZES the entire film! Academy Award Nuance!! 🤘 🤩 🤘

[@PrimalElf]

Ah Sorkin his dialogues can be listened to endlessly.

[@errwhattheflip]

This scene is my favorite in the movie. It brilliantly shows the beginning and end of their relationship through dialogue and editing, gripping, acted extremely well, etc. Brilliant scene

[@jqyhlmnp]

I think the director’s commentary mentioned the chairs were stacked like how two people would throw chairs at each other in a mess… but in a stacked, orderly- fashion

[@gordo965]

Its a great detail to help visualize the 20 years of chairs Steve and John have been storing up waiting to throw at eachother.

[@trewhite7903]

Pemberton’s score sells the entire scene 🤟🏾

[@AstraVex]

4:09 to 4:33 Something about this moment has stuck been in my head for ages. It's the willingness that both have to try to understand each other and neither of them budging! Also, Jeff Daniels is just a Pro at understanding the flow of Sorkin's dialogue after doing The Newsroom! DAMN!

[@AK-pw3oq]

Whole scene is great but that part was top class acting.

[@DAS_k1ishEe]

"We showed it being opened, we showed it being poured, being consumed" This line ruined most of beer/soda ads for me because all I can think of is this movie.

[@oldhauntedbat424]

this is how you write a fucking scene

[@TheJonnyb2144]

Two amazing actors chewing up dialogue

[@ashjogalekar8814]

Michael Fassbender was excellent in this scene, but Jeff Daniels was simply awesome.

[@scottnikolai64]

When Steve Jobs was defending the Macintosh, he wasn't just defending the Macintosh. He was defending the spirit of creativity and innovation, which he thought was sorely lacking with the stubborn insistence on investing and reinvesting in the Apple II. In his view, tech companies don't grow by staying with the status quo. They grow by moving forward into the future.

[@jamesmedina4407]

No matter how many people get hurt along the way.

[@UrbanOriginia]

This is a masterclass in visual storytelling, using cinematography, lighting, and props to convey the shifting power dynamics between the two characters. The setting of the scene is crucial-an empty room with minimal stimuli, dim lighting, and chairs stacked neatly on tables. This sparse environment reflects John Sculley's isolation and the seriousness of the confrontation he anticipates. The emptiness of the room can be interpreted as a metaphor for Sculley’s own sense of abandonment or the emptiness he feels after his fall from grace at Apple. The stacked chairs suggest that the room is not meant for comfort or collaboration; it’s a place of judgment and confrontation. The use of space here is symbolic-Sculley is sitting, literally lower and seemingly more vulnerable, waiting for Jobs to arrive. As the scene unfolds, Steve Jobs enters the room and approaches Sculley. Initially, Sculley is seated, which positions him as the judge, ready to confront Jobs for his perceived ‘crimes’. However, as the conversation progresses, the camera work subtly shifts the power dynamic. Jobs begins to stand and move, and the camera angles start to favor him, often shooting him from a lower angle that makes him appear larger and more imposing. This shift in power is crucial. What begins as Sculley’s moment to hold Jobs accountable quickly turns into a reversal where Jobs, by standing and towering over Sculley in the long shots, becomes the one in control. The cinematography emphasizes this reversal-Sculley, who intended to judge, is now being judged by Jobs, who literally and figuratively rises above him. "When are you going to get furniture?" The props in the scene-the stacked chairs and the single chair Sculley occupies-are not just background elements; they are carefully chosen to symbolize the shift in power. The neatly stacked chairs suggest order and control, perhaps reflecting Sculley’s desire to impose order on the chaos he perceives Jobs to have created. But as Jobs begins to dominate the scene, the order represented by these chairs becomes insignificant. The focus shifts entirely to the interaction between the two men, highlighting how Jobs’ presence and rhetoric can dismantle the control Sculley thought he had.

[@MikeYeung]

One of the best movies ever made in the 2010’s. Watched it with a lot of reservations, walked away wow’ed and with teary eyes

[@KevonLovelace]

I love this scene, but the fact that Scully was just randomly sitting there…it makes me wonder just how long he was sitting there hoping that Steve would’ve taken that path

[@davadh]

He likely knew when the presentation starts and that's the hallway to the room so not too long?

[@JimmySteller]

Agreed. It's such a pretentious moment. I want to see an extended version of the scene where he's sitting in one hallway for a while, rehearsing what he'll say to Steve when he shows up, then giving up and moving the chair to another hallway, then awkwardly dealing with random people who walk past and see him sitting there.

[@jinkim5056]

Everyone talks about fassbender but jeff davis was just as, or perhaps even more impressive to me. His acting was phenomenal

[@PrestigeLearning]

Because Daniels is a known player, an established talent. Fassbender’s impressive because he’s showing himself every bit an equal with Daniels.

[@melvinlee9263]

Considering you can get a base model MacBook for $1,995 today, that was A LOT of money for a Macintosh in '84.

[@shubhamupadhyay844]

999 dollars

[@anim8orman72]

The dialogue and the actors' delivery are incredible. Then you add that awesome score behind it and it's elevated beyond the sum of the already terrific parts. I love how the musical score echoes the ebb and flow of their conversation, the more heated they get, the more intense the music gets. Amazing.

[@patrickhafner4029]

sorkin at work

[@ovskii96]

1:57 Is such a great moment. It really shows Steve's narcissism and ego. He genuinely saw the ad as an accurate representation of what he was doing, as if he was a hero.

[@Rek_Rc]

Michael fassbender is one hell of an actor. Not sure how well he nails jobs, but it doesn't matter. He played this movie amazingly anyways. Jobs wasn't quite as monotone as this movie makes him, and he just slightly more aggressive and temperamental . But still , what a movie.

[@firgasz2920]

I liked Ahston Kutcher as Jobs more because he looks more like the young Steve Jobs. The Problem with Fassbender besides his acting in this scene is, that i don´t see Steve Jobs here.

[@dmoney7784]

@@firgasz2920 awful

[@dmoney7784]

@@firgasz2920 the kutcher movie i mean just terrible😂😂

[@fl1490]

@@firgasz2920 If you think a movie can only be good because the actors look like a character, instead of how well they can act, that’s says more about you than the movie itself

[@firgasz2920]

@@fl1490 Its about authenticity. Fassbender may be the better actor , but he does not look anything near to convince you that he could be Steve Jobs.

[@admirosmanovic1368]

Joanne is gonna call my name in a second Steve That was unrehearsed Lmao

[@thomaslippiatt7107]

Jeff Daniels is a special actor

[@Ingens_Scherz]

Two great actors going at it with a decent script. Nothing better than that in any movie.

[@kincht237]

More than decent mate

[@ancheta650]

decent script? its aaron fucking sorkin

[@asecretone]

Decent?! 😡

[@thrillhouse4784]

You should delete this comment

[@AK-pw3oq]

Decent really?

[@hosaepalvin9795]

Steve had to mythologize himself into Apple as to never be apart from it ever again.

[@andrewgundy3045]

This is such an incredible scene.. two acting geniuses reading Sorkin (my dream)

[@SOuLO_Traveller]

Such an excellent scene..hats off to these performers

[@yezen6889]

Best scene of the movie

[@TooCosmic]

It got to a point to where it felt like a fist fight but with words each sentence another combo

[@cksammi]

One of the best movies about Steve Jobs. I really enjoyed Michael F's acting of Jobs. My favorite was when he had to chase down his daughter at the roof top to console her. Very touching Loved it!

[@julianj9830]

Steve Jobs is the definition of if you first don’t succeed try try again. Edit: “I don’t give a shit about the shareholders”. Man, if only more executives could be like that. Maybe we’d get more quality over quantity nowadays.

[@LK-pc4sq]

Thomas Edison failed at making 999 light bulbs...he made the next one a success and changed the world!

[@julianj9830]

@@LK-pc4sq By backstabbing Nikola Tesla lol

[@kko9329]

@@LK-pc4sq and by stealing too

[@dudetocartman]

@@LK-pc4sq He also tried over 200 things to make it work.

[@HonkeyKong54]

@@kko9329 lmao Steve jobs actually stole. Edison didn’t steal he had people working for him.

[@danieldevito6380]

This movie and scene is unbelievably AMAZING

[@paulhogan1738]

Thanks for uploading this scene it’s great. Should’ve let it run for another 2 mins though.

[@thebeard2229]

I agree, the original upload was a bit longer than that but KZbin decided to cut it because of the music copyright.

[@TheSerpent21]

You became his enemy and he treated you as such, justice done.

[@TheSerpent21]

Like a Phoenix he rose from the ashes better and stronger than before.

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

“I’m okay losing, but I’m not going to forfeit”

[@pikasalsachu]

Fassbender was my pick for best actor that year

[@wustenfuchs3285]

apple is great for the people who don't ever want to truly use, modify, change, enhance, develop, and enjoy the hardware and software they use.

[@stillwaitingfor99]

Jeff D. Is a great actor can do funny or serious

[@johnjones4426]

F*cking brilliant scene

[@smokymountainangoras]

SHOW THEM YOU DO NOT NEED THEM FOREVERMORE. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@daleravic]

If Jobs did his surgery 9 months earlier he'd still be here.

[@pjetrs]

sadly thats not how cancer works, many people will stay in danger for the rest of their lives. It could have helped a lot though, thats for sure

[@aaronjholcombe]

I don’t think anyone writes arguments better than Aaron Sorkin

[@supercarsinside230]

One of the finest movie scene

[@funnell1313]

My shit’s still somewhere in Beijing 😂😂😂 How did nobody catch that lol

[@josephhughes1498]

Catch what? nothing wrong with it I don’t think?

[@saulpinto4720]

This scene is art

[@QuEsT_X]

In business, you have to be a killer, and that means sometimes making the calls most can't or are unwilling but that makes the difference between a success and a flash in the pan

[@drkickyoface]

To anybody who's more knowledgeable about Apple's history then me... was steve right? Was the Macintosh just overpriced? Was a price cut all it needed to succeed? Or was this just his pride and bias talking

[@andthelastshallbefirsttoim2795]

He was right that it would have helped, but the Mac's price was far from its only problem. It was a relatively weak device, even for its time, with a lack of available memory being compounded by the (intentional) exclusion of a hard drive and cooling fan. In effect, the Mac was a sluggish, underpowered machine with little room for storage, and prone to mechanical failure. Additionally, as it was an early adopter of graphical user interfaces, there was a noticeable lack of support when it came to software. Not a ton of third party developers signed on at first, and there were only a handful of available programs built by Apple when it launched.

[@brainiac.computer]

@@andthelastshallbefirsttoim2795 did you get this information from a book?

[@kko9329]

@@andthelastshallbefirsttoim2795 answer the question above

[@G-Mulaa]

The right OS wasn't developed yet, it was over priced & not compatible with a lot of products. The idea was there it just wasn't the right time

[@emmyreturn]

Epic.

[@aesoprockinin]

This was a brilliant movie. Too bad nobody saw it

[@joewhitehead3]

You saw it

[@aesoprockinin]

@@joewhitehead3 *nobody else*

[@joewhitehead3]

@@aesoprockinin Were you the only one in the theater?

[@aesoprockinin]

@joewhitehead3 no but I did watch it by myself on my tv

[@raghnallciredresgaray413]

He so good

[@dinosaursneverexisted8985]

great scene

[@smokymountainangoras]

DR. PEPPER SAYS THE WORLD ENDS THIS MONDAY.

[@nwmusic2010]

Michael Fassbender was fabulous in this movie.

[@RebelKingfrom1995]

Old lion against young lion💪🦁🦁🎥📽🔥🔥

[@Solarian25]

Goat 🐐

[@RMuhammadErnadiRamadhan]

When Harry Dunne argue with Magnetto

[@ElizabethWilson-ny7wi]

lol, I am watching this from my MacBook, how convenient. 😆🤣

[@travisdope19]

Harry did alright for himself

[@a_23656]

so in truth Sculley is the "looser", because he did not get it. You can have the best selling product in the world but you will stop at a certain point because you are not able to a deeper understanding. Jobs "failed" but won in the end. Sculley "won" but at the end he was the one who truly failed.

[@user-wu1fs3ws9m]

So ceo pass

[@JimmySteller]

Much as I like this scene, I can’t help but find it stupid how it begins. How long was John Sculley waiting in that chair for Steve to show up? How many other people saw him before Steve? What did John say when they asked him what he was doing there? That’s the thing with Sorkin: he’s a great writer, but he sometimes gets high off his own rep.

[@errwhattheflip]

To be fair, that's a pretty minor convenience for an otherwise masterful scene

[@neofox-kids6166]

My theory is that the whole scene is actually in jobs mind, it’s a fisical representation of himself reflecting about the events that happened in the flashbacks

[@JimmySteller]

@@errwhattheflip It didn’t have to be that way, and it still would have been great. If anything, I think it hinders the good parts of the scene, because it just feels too pretentious to me.

[@errwhattheflip]

@@JimmySteller So? Again, that's a pretty minor complaint and an objective nitpick.

[@JimmySteller]

@@errwhattheflip Meh. I stand by it. And there’s no such thing as objectivity in art. It is all subjective, and we can all only speak from our own perspectives.

[@Kncperseus]

You unequivocally want to support Daniels' John Sculley in this scene.

[@TheSerpent21]

See this shit is why if I started my own company it would come down to me. No board, no council, no person who manages it for me. I would be in charge and make the final decisions and my word would be law, no exceptions because it would be my product that I made and no one would ever be able to take that away.

[@anthonymacgregor9790]

if you started your own company technically you be the sole member of the board.

[@chasestucki629]

Magneto Controls Apple

[@indravrtrahaana763]

400th like!!!

[@dowtie1997]

Why is there always people standing around or some lady calling his name when there is a argument in this movie? Like yea we get it "smart dark argument wow we don't know what to do!"

[@alexmetal3525]

Yeah I been reading a couple books about apple story and all points Arthur Rock manage everything to kick Jobs from apple not this pepsi guy.

[@cybercop0083]

Why are they changing clothes and locations all the time? Is this a trap conceived by a wizard? Or a witch?

[@rocketman544]

They're flashbacks.

[@ricarleite]

Is this a cut scene?

[@davadh]

No, it's the best scene in the film

[@mikesempire77]

Music, what is it? Please

[@aniruddhanbalakrishnan7106]

revenge by daniel pemberton

[@mikesempire77]

Ty

[@ryuk5673]

This is all out of context for me. I'm so confused 😂

[@therealmistahjay]

Then watch the movie.

[@savp199524]

Steve Jobs hired Jeff Daniels the CEO to run Apple but ultimately fired him from his own company, beef lol

[@dudetocartman]

@@savp199524 Jobs made the mistake of hiring John, the CEO of Pepsi to be the CEO of Apple. Steve thought because Pepsi was a success in advertising, he could use the help. John and Steve had different views on Apple. To John, Steve was nuts when running Apple, his own company, and making it worse especially with the Mac being a huge failure, plus Steve hated the Apple II, which was like 71% of the revenue for Apple. John wanted to do things the business way. He eventually had the board choose on who to stay. Steve was then fired and John made it worse later and left Apple when it hit the pits.

[@wolf_biter]

That’s what men do.

[@zes3813]

no such thing as fire x or for or etc

[@Fleur-de-lis_2_27]

I got on a plane for China 🇨🇳 there’s the rub…

[@BrodyRod-nq8vn]

No offence, but I think it’s funny that his kids are getting taunted

[@gregd806]

4:30

[@jaysonjose5675]

I don’t like sculley, i feel he is a backstabber

[@caiolimacaldas]

Imo, Ashton Kutchner film have much more resemblance from Steven Jobs life than this one.

[@ChrisWolff2013]

But this film is far superior

[@LandersWorkshop]

@@ChrisWolff2013 In what way? I'm kinda digging the Kutchner 'walk'

[@ChrisWolff2013]

@@LandersWorkshop Kutcher's performance is artificial. He looks like Jobs, but you don't fully believe him as Jobs. Fassbender looks and sounds nothing about him (which was the point according to Danny Boyle), but I got something far more outtakes his performance than Ashton's