Steve Lawson & John MacArthur Connection | Details Emerge in Fake Pastor Scandal

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Men who are very smart, like Steve and John, do not have the privilege of playing the ignorance card. And if John was truly duped by Steve on a deep level, then that brings into question his ability to discern and lead. Links to sources: My previous video with Living Waters podcast evidence: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZS2qXxngNt7qNk&ab_channel=JD%27sVarietyChannel-TreasureQuestChronicles OnePassion Ministries Non-Profit Financials: projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/453788191 Steve Lawson listed by Trinity Bible Church as Lead Preacher while not being a pastor: protestia.com/2024/11/08/steve-lawson-was-not-a-pastor-elder-or-even-a-member-at-trinity-bible-church-an-update/

[@aservant2287]

Truth is Lawson and MacArthur won't make not because he fell but because they preach the Father purposely makes people for hell and only died for a few people while the Bible teaches that it's the Father's will that All would come to knowledge of forgiveness and not willing that any should perish 2 peter 3:9, 1 timothy 2:4 and there's no partiality with God Romans 2:11. They tell people that the Father is responsible for people going to hell when really it's satan and the person's choice switching the credit to the wrong party blaspheming the Holy Spirit that's why when the pharisees said Christ was doing miracles through satan when it really was the Holy Spirit they blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Calvinism will send millions to hell

[@cranmer1959]

@@aservant2287 The Bible teaches double predestination. Even if Lawson busts hell wide open, the Bible is God's written word. See Romans 9. As for responsibility, you're obviously confused. You are responsible for your own sins--even if it was ultimately decreed before the foundation of the world. Why? Because God holds you accountable for your own decisions. Being born into the world with original sin and total corruption is no excuse. Romans 1:18-32. KJV.

[@aservant2287]

@cranmer1959 romans 9:13 to which every calvinist goes to says jacob have I loved and esau I hated "miseo to love less not to condemn to death". Luke 14:26 if anyone doesn't hate (miseo ' ) their parents they can't be My disciples. God is not saying that you condemn your family to hell. If the Father chooses most for hell and only died for a few people isn't it possible that you're actually called to burn? It's possible in your theology. Where's the assurance in that? Right there is none. You wander like isreal in the wilderness with unbelief and can't find the rest in your salvation because of unbelief. The danger of telling people that the Father is responsible for people going to hell when it's really satan and the person's choice is switching the credit to the wrong party blaspheming the Holy Spirit that's why when the pharisees said Christ was doing miracles through satan when it really was the Holy Spirit they blasphemed the Holy Spirit. You blaspheme the Holy Spirit in reality and you ask others if part of the elect while you won't make heaven because you blaspheme the Holy Spirit. These are the facts sorry to tell you

[@cranmer1959]

@@aservant2287 OK, let's respond to your comments one proposition at a time: First you compare Romans 9:13 to Luke 14:26. The first thing you get wrong is that Jesus is talking to humans in Luke 14. Your word study approach avoids the direct context. Last I checked God is not a human being. Humans are not omnipotent; they are not creators of the universe. So you have confused the Creator with mere creatures. Secondly, BEFORE Esau or Jacob were born, before they did anything good or evil, God had already decided to hate Esau and to love Jacob. Love is not an emotion. It is a VOLITION. God damned Esau and saved Jacob. It was a decision based on God's eternal purpose. So you're not objecting to MY theology. You are objecting to God's written word, which is plain to anyone reading it. God raised up Pharaoh to send ten plagues on Egypt and to drown the Egyptian army in the Red Sea. I can give you Scripture after Scripture proving that it is not God's will to save every single person on the planet. Thirdly, predestination does not prove that God is responsible for your sins. You are responsible for every sin you commit--even if it was predestined in every single detail before you were born. That's because God foreknew what you would do and predestined your birth anyway. If God foreknows that you will go to church next Sunday, is it possible that you won't go? You are the one doing the sin, not God. There is no one higher than God to hold Him accountable for what He has decreed. He is the primary cause of everything that happens by way of 1) His divine and eternal decree, and 2) by His providence that governs whatsoever comes to pass. As for Jesus only dying for a few people? Apparently, you have not read the book of Revelation. After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; (Rev. 7:9 KJV) Not one person that God has eternally and unconditionally elected to salvation will be lost. Jesus died for them and God never fails because He is omnipotent to save whom He wills to save. Not even the devil can snatch one of His elect out of the hand of Jesus. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. (Jn. 10:27-29 KJV) All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (Jn. 6:37 KJV) And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. (Jn. 6:39 KJV) As for your view that the devil and your "free" will is more powerful than God Himself, that would make God less than omnipotent. It would mean that your view is that there are two gods, a good god and an evil god. Your good god is apparently unable to do anything about evil. It might just as well be that your god is evil and is unable to do anything about good. The fact is that God saves whom He will save, and God hardens whom He will harden: As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? (Rom. 9:13-19 KJV) I pray that you will stop reading your own opinions into the Bible. May God grant you the grace to accept the plain meaning of the text.

[@aservant2287]

@cranmer1959 listen, I think you're sincere but in romans 9:13 God was referring them as nations not individual salvation. Did easu and Pharaoh have a choice? Of course. God gave them a freewill just like all mankind and the chose to reject God's will. Calvinism teaches that people are held accountable for not accepting Christ even after saying the Father is responsible for them not accepting Christ but people are still held accountable for not. You're delusional at best and you're not sure if you're actually saved because according to you you even before the foundation of the world you were chosen for hell or heaven. Vipers in diapers telling people that an infant dying that they might be in hell by God's perfect sorveignty. You obviously don't know God's character. God is love and there's no partiality with God Romans 2:11. He wants everyone saved and is the savior of the world especially those who believe. You make God a monster and a liar saying that He purposely makes people for destruction. For the simple potential that you actually could be called to burn , you have no assurance. I'll debate any calvinist any day because Calvinism contradicts scripture on many levels. You say God loves but only died for you and a few. If you can't see the problem with that I can't help you. You blaspheme the Holy Spirit in saying that the Father is responsible for people going to hell when really it's satan and the person's choice.

[@smithwesson7149]

There are no great men of God, only a great God of men.

[@BonnieCain-z2k]

I like that!

[@gailmitchell5101]

A hired hand works only for the money. He cares nothing about the sheep. John 10:13. Perfect example

[@BonnieCain-z2k]

Whoa! Wow!

[@jwashingtonparker]

Thanks JD, I have enjoyed finding your channel through this Steve Lawson fiasco. Grace and peace to you and yours.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Thanks for the encouraging comment!

[@victoryak86]

It’s not fair nor right to accuse someone of some sort f compromise because he was unaware of a particular brother’s sin. Few men have stood for the truth and purity of the church and the failures of Christian leadership over the years, than John MacArthur. As an aside, and I don’t disagree with the fact that Mr Lawson was “hired” but s not strong preaching and teaching of the Word an important aspect of shepherding? Also, though you’ve tried to tarnish MacArthurs reputation by highlighting his love and appreciation for Steve Lawson, it’s clear the he was not aware of his sin. He has now spoken of it publicly. Your desire to discredit a man of God publicly through “guilt by association” speaks for itself.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

I understand what you're saying about MacArthur from your vantage point. This video was raising important questions, not making specific accusations. However, based on many other issues and my own doctrinal stance, I believe it to be a symptom of a significantly greater issue. Thus opening up the discussion. This video was aimed to hopefully open up a deeper inspection from among the community, and your comments are welcome to add to the discussion. Regarding the strong preaching being part of shepherding. Simply put, no I do not agree. The early church did not preach (proclaim repentance like John the Baptist) in Christian gatherings. That happened outside the church for reaching the lost, to bring them into the fold. This point you brought up is precisely one of the issues in the modern Protestant/Evangelical church scene. Furthermore, I never claimed John was aware of Steve's marital sins. The points I brought up here are his family making millions from the "gospel" which is in public record, making idolatrous statements from the pulpit (see my earlier video for an example) and preaching for hire, while apparently not attending any church as part of the body? From what I can glean from the information, this, has been going on since 2018, not yesterday. See some of my other comments for the nuance. John is a very smart man, and if you hold him in very high esteem, then I would argue he should also be aware of wolves in sheep's clothing, especially when he calls them "his favorite preacher to listen to" and a "close friend" . I'm merely suggesting this issue isn't just about Steve's sins behind the scenes. That's the tip of the iceberg.

[@kelliegray6088]

you need to look into how MacA runs his church and past legal coverups.... you will feel differently. See Roy's Report.

[@trh2-f7v]

@@kelliegray6088 lol if you believe her...that says it all

[@lauranewcomer170]

Only God knows the heart. Steve was not only a gifted teacher, he was also a superb liar, as it turns out. He fooled everybody for 5 years. To argue that John M should have known he was a wolf is a bit of a stretch. Rather than suggesting there is something wrong with John's discernment, perhaps it would be more beneficial to point out the cleverness of Satan who is at the root of every lie, a lie that went undetected by even those who knew Steve best.

[@victoryak86]

@@JDsVarietyChannel I appreciate that response and I mean no disrespect towards your opinion. I do believe JM has been singularly used of the Lord, proven in the lives of many who were strengthened by his teaching. Also I feel a Christian should be very humble and follow scripture when bringing an accusation, though he is a very public figure and we ARE called to think for ourselves and make proper “judgements” with humility and love. Not saying you’re not doing that and may the Lord bless you.

[@sunsetstormx]

Talk about being puffed up. It really bothers me when a man gives another man so many accolades. We are all dust. We are all vapors. How grievous.

[@BonnieCain-z2k]

Yeah, I'm not on John MacArthur's bandwagon exactly. You have to have a certain amount of ego.

[@amandaweng9622]

Did John MacArthur know all of these things about Steve Lawson? That is important.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

That's the point of the angle I tried to take on this discussion. I'm not saying he knew everything. He likely didn't. But don't you think you would be attentive to the inner workings of the life of one of your close friends and favorite preachers? If he pleads ignorance toward Steve, then it's showing partiality and willful ignorance, or that he was deceived. Those are not qualities of a highly esteemed leader. John scrutinizes others he disagrees with using a fine tooth comb, but his friends are not held accountable until complete collapse (like in Steve's case) . His behavior was not hidden under a rock. I have found clips all over of Steve saying troubling things, which is one of the main reasons I have been covering this. Steve wasn't even on my radar before this went down. The fact he duped so many people with his ego is astounding.

[@janwarriner6554]

@@JDsVarietyChannel so it’s possible he deceived Steve too. People committing adultery definitely hide that info and they don’t even claim to be preachers, etc. We may never know the truth about John. By the way I have been researching Steve’s fall from “grace”. Seems that church is a little wacky and not in full agreement of how this was handled.

[@Nameless72122]

If this is true, Shepherd's Conference has been patronizing a non-shepherd in their conferences.

[@KristenG380]

@@Nameless72122 that is a very interesting point!

[@Nameless72122]

@KGuardado3 yeah, it is a hot humble pie.

[@williamkeaton9654]

You’re barking up the wrong tree putting down MacArthur. No one knew about Steve’s behavior but himself. J Mac didn’t have any idea what was going on.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

I understand your frustration, but please refrain from calling groups "you people" on my channel in order to insult them. If you have a criticism to make, please make it substantive, so we can argue our points in a Godly manner.

[@HlengiweRedeemed]

@@JDsVarietyChannel I apologize, I'll delete

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

@@HlengiweRedeemed No worries. I've done it myself in the past, so I understand the zeal. It's respectable that you responded. Let's us strive not to get pulled into the polarized/tribal side of the internet.

[@fantom29comp]

The fact that these men have kind words for one another isn't surprising. After all, there was no scandal at the time. People fall. Steve Lawson has some serious judgment coming his way. Hopefully he will repent and turn from his sin. We are all sinners. Let those without sin cast the first stone and let's not forget the log in our own eyes.

[@jaytshianda]

Time for us to Know God by ourselves trough scriptures with the Help of the Holly spirit

[@Judy-h2r]

If you are trying to show John Macarthurs acceptance of Steve Lawsons present conduct you should use something appropriate to the time it happened not a tape made in 2012 not 2024. Shame on you. 15:42

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Not sure what you're trying to imply. I established a timeline. The same year John claimed the Lord knit their hearts together (2012) Steve began amassing millions for his family from the gospel using a non-profit.

[@DavidJStynchcombe]

If Dr. MacArthur didn't know, then Lawson is one GREAT deceiver. He deceived his wife, children, various ministries, and best friend. I hope we get some clarification and confirmation on whether MacArthur knew that his best friend wasn't even a member of the church he preached at, much less that he wasn't the pastor there.

[@trh2-f7v]

Pastor Macarthur knew nothing about the affair...I don't know if he knew about Lawson not being a member or a real Pastor @TBC ? ..but I do know it has broken Pastor MacArthurs heart and he called Steve OUT when they had a recent Q&A..saying he couldn't understand how anyone could have such a seared conscience like Lawson and continue to preach and teach Gods Word...Look...Lawson fooled EVERYBODY...wife/kids/friends very close to him...Keep this in perspective:... he fooled the people closest to him....🙄

[@cranmer1959]

Johnny Mac did nothing wrong. Of course, celebrity preachers are way overpaid. Ravi Zacharias is another fallen minister.

[@orangeandslinky]

How could no one in the whole church not fully understand this set up?

[@chrisneverforget9117]

Tired of all this crap. We live in a fallen world and are reminded every single day. Keeping myself from evil is a full time job. Put no one on a pedestal. Stay humble. Be honest with the people in your life.

[@goodshorts]

I dislike how they are removing all evidence. Living Waters should leave it up.

[@CherylHulseapple]

Do they talk about their own error and the missing episode in their latest episode #304 "The Hidden Dangers of Celebrity Christianity: Are We Idolizing Our Pastors"? They may have been taking time to thoughtfully respond in the new episode. (I haven't listened but I just noticed it there).

[@debrawilder9551]

Seems light is showing truth on many in it for money !

[@malka8901]

Thank you for this very respectful to our Lord video. This is very sad for the people Lawson has had any dealings with.

[@1Whipperin]

The notion that every church needs a single "pastor" leading and controlling the flock is based on a misunderstanding of Ephesians 4:11 and the New Testament model. When Paul says Christ "gave some apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,” he describes a variety of roles, each serving the body uniquely. He doesn’t say that each congregation is led by a singular “pastor” nor does he establish a hierarchy with one person above all others. The Bible provides a plurality of leaders-elders, overseers, and teachers-who share the responsibility to shepherd, with no one figure dominating or being seen as a higher authority. The very term “pastor," meaning shepherd, isn’t even used in the New Testament as a title of authority or status, and it's not exclusive to one individual per congregation. Peter, himself a leading apostle, wrote to all elders to “shepherd the flock of God that is among you” (1 Peter 5:2) and emphasized that they were to serve “not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock.” This directly rebukes any notion of a singular authority ruling over a congregation. Leadership in the New Testament was collaborative, shared by spiritually mature believers who guided together, prayed together, and took on the needs of the body together. By contrast, the modern “one-man pastor” model is often a distortion of Scripture, creating a dependency on one leader and, as we see today, leading to significant abuses of power and failure. In fact, elevating one individual in a church can lead to the pride and spiritual fragility we’re told to avoid. True shepherding in the body of Christ follows the example of Jesus, who said, “Whoever would be great among you must be your servant” (Matthew 20:26). Instead of idolizing a single “pastor,” congregations should follow the New Testament’s teaching of shared, humble leadership to foster spiritual maturity in all members, not just in one so-called “shepherd.” So let’s remember: Scripture does not call for a celebrity pastor to rule over a flock but a community of servant-leaders working together to honor Christ and serve one another in love.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Good thoughts. This video was an elementary view for the broader discussion, not sharing my deeper personal views on why there are so many systemic issues in "churches" . Certainly the pastor model is not biblical. Preaching (declaration of the gospel to the lost) is supposed to occur outside the Christian assembly to win the lost. By definition, you are a disciple of Christ if you are part of the church. There were no preachers in the early church gatherings, they were teachers. The idea of Christian assemblies being a hospital for sinners cannot be found in scripture. We have mixed light with darkness, and it has confused the entire practice of meeting together, and it's main functions (edification and participation among the people in genuine community in Christ) . Now the Lord's Supper is not even a meal, but an incredibly impersonal ritual. There are so many troubling elements in the modern system it would take a huge series to unpack it all. I agree that a plurality of elders is biblical, but I also try to consider that many true churches are small gatherings in peoples homes, like how it was with the early church. So if there's 10 people meeting in a home, the most qualified man to teach will assume the responsibility. I've learned to approach it as the rule of best practice, but also not law. We desperately need to understand the spirit of the law, which is the purpose of Christ coming to begin with, having the law written on each individual heart. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and adding to the discussion. I plan to cover these topics more in the future on the channel.

[@1Whipperin]

@@JDsVarietyChannelThe word "pastor" as we understand it today does not appear in most English translations of the Old Testament. However, the Hebrew word ra‘ah (רָעָה), meaning “to shepherd” or “to tend,” is sometimes translated as "pastor" in older translations, particularly in the King James Version (KJV). Here are the Old Testament verses where ra‘ah is translated as "pastor" in the KJV: Jeremiah 2:8 - "The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit." Jeremiah 3:15 - "And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding." Jeremiah 10:21 - "For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered." Jeremiah 12:10 - "Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness." Jeremiah 22:22 - "The wind shall eat up all thy pastors, and thy lovers shall go into captivity: surely then shalt thou be ashamed and confounded for all thy wickedness." Jeremiah 23:1-2 - "Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD."

[@sharonjosefik766]

When pastoring there should be a seal of pay rate and no more If they choose to write books or other thats his privilege

[@woerzoneg]

Very interesting. I did start noticing how all of these pastors praised each other after some of you podcasters brought it up. Thanks for pointing it out. I totally agree

[@chrisking6874]

My goodness such mutual praise! This praise should sound alarm bells in bible believing Christians! Not applause! Luke 6:26 (KJV) Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

[@MichaelPetrone-ng5yx]

If MacArthur's grace to you we're in the secular realm he'd be sued for false advertising

[@adrianafalaguasta5490]

The sad part is that as a man of God filled with the Holy Spirit where is the spiritual discernment? How can you be close to a person but much closer to God and you don't have a clue of what is going on ?!!!!

[@LydiaLPerez]

Steve Lawson is anyway saved as carvinism proclaim?

[@kenfroehlich444]

Good application of scripture except I would say Steve Lawson was the wolf

[@heyyou9839]

It’s true though, there does go his eternal reward. If all men speak well of you and if you get all the praise and glory here on earth, there’s nothing left for God to give you.

[@jeffpaul6252]

Why try to trash John's reputation? You even state you dont believe he knew of Steve's actions until exposed.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

I was referring to John not being aware of the secret marital sins, not the other behavioral and surrounding issues that were public. There was significant evidence of poor conduct well before the recent scandal broke.

[@jeffpaul6252]

​@@JDsVarietyChannel You would be surprised what people do that are in one's close circle. Don't deceive yourself.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

@@jeffpaul6252 Not going to argue with someone who makes baseless insinuations.

[@jeffpaul6252]

@@JDsVarietyChannel I amended my reply. I in no way meant to insinuate anything toward YOU. My only point is many humans that have demonstrated trustworthiness over their lives eventually cave or are exposed as having deceived us all along.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

​@@jeffpaul6252 Thank-you for clarifying. No worries. I think someone could have a prodigal son experience, or walk away from God completely, having showed Godly behavior prior, and that doesn't necessarily means those around them are complicit. But if someone has been a fraud for a significant period of time (or always), I think that shows the lack of discernment (or complicity) of those around them who have not addressed it. If you are deceived by such a man who you partner with in ministry, you have no business being in a leadership position yourself. That's my angle. I hope that clarifies the purpose of why I'm having this discussion.

[@lulu-qw8xy]

Thank you for video

[@43Danc]

Great insight, and use of scripture.

[@UrsulaHelen]

4:30 Rightly so!!! John 10,11 !! Fits on him!! Wolf in Sheep’s clothing!! It’s so strange. You are so correct. Never follow men, only Jesus Christ.

[@jason8445]

Didn’t MacArthur say there was nothing special about Jesus’ blood? I saw a clip of him saying that. That alone is problematic.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Like you, I personally think there's many issues. I'm just trying to be tactful and focus on one point at a time. Not go into a rant as if I have a vendetta against someone (which I don't) . I strive to present my arguments in a Godly manner in the hopes that reasonable people will at least consider them. Thanks for commenting.

[@noelinuae7554]

MacArthur and Lawson learned from each other. What a pity. And they lead and teach those young men in their seminary to be like them. Just like those hypocrites Pharisees who compass sea and land to proselyte people making them twice more as children of hell than themselves.

[@timothymcdonald7407]

Little Johnny knew all along.

[@brightpurpleviking]

That’s a very odd setup they have for him. I’ve been in only one church where the “head pastor” preferred the term “head teacher” because he didn’t like people and didn’t want to be responsible for the problems of the flock. This man, however, is just like a 1099 contract laborer. So odd- makes me wonder if there is some monetary advantage they’re dipping into. But my biggest thought when hearing them slather each other with praise is Romans 7:14-25 but specifically the humble declaration in v24…” Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from this body of death?” MacArthur has always, in my opinion, been the farthest away from humility a Protestant pastor can get. Election, TULIP chosen, holier than most, his name emblazoned on his bibles larger than any other words on the cover, etc. Sounds like he found a soulmate in this guy. Come soon, Lord Jesus 🙏🏻

[@KristenG380]

I'm going to chime in on this conversation. Personally, it is very hard for me to believe that John Macarthur was not aware of Lawson's "position" or lack thereof at Trinity because of how intertwined all of these men are. I currently attend a church in northern California whose pastor knows these men very well on a personal basis- Steve Lawson was a guest preacher at the church before I started attending. The pastor addressed the congregation a week after the news came out and said he spoke to Lawson personally, and he expressed what a "broken man he is and that he has lost everything". What the pastor did not mention is any verbage of remorse, regret, or repentance. In addition, I find it very hard to listen to the way these men stroke each other's egos. It is incredibly off-putting and down right cringy, not to mention antithetical (the idolatry)to the Bible that they (reformed pastors) claim that they are the only ones preaching sound doctrine. I have heard other men in this group come down on Steven Furtick (whom I am not in agreement with at all) for speaking the samd way about other pastors when they visit each other's churches. Its a business move IMO, as well as an opportunity to speak so highly of themselves and each other. Anyway, thank you JD

[@aservant2287]

Anyone who teaches that the Father purposely makes people for hell and only died for a few people preaches another gospel PERIOD full-stop. It's the Father's will that All would come to knowledge of forgiveness and not willing that any should perish 2 peter 3:9, 1 timothy 2:4 and there's no partiality with God Romans 2:11. People who teach calvinism will burn one day not because they have no assurance because of the potential that they actually could be called to burn but because they tell people that the Father is responsible for people going to hell when really it's satan and the person's choice switching the credit to the wrong party blaspheming the Holy Spirit that's why when the pharisees said Christ was doing miracles through satan when it really was the Holy Spirit they blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Calvinism was and will always be be a doctrine from satan making the Father a monster and a liar

[@KristenG380]

@aservant2287 I had to edit my previous response. I completely agree with you regarding Calvinism preaching another gospel, but in good conscience I don't feel comfortable agreeing with the statement that "people who teach Calvinism will burn". Maybe some will, some may not. It's an interesting topic for sure.

[@judyremington5402]

Why is SL in Tennessee and not at home with his wife and daughter who just gave birth. This is a broken man who has lost everything.

[@hagenjunger2914]

​@@aservant2287so well known people from the past are "burning".. Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edward's, George Whitfield, Andrew Murray, Martin Lloyd Jones, John Owen, etc. ? And current calvinists like Tim Challies, John Piper, Sam Storms are going to burn? I know where you coming from, but there is a fundamental misunderstanding of calvinism. I was like this,but opted to befriend calvinists and learn from reformed teachers. Instead of only learning from non calvinists. I encourage my calvinist brothers to do the same. We all need to get out of our echo chambers. PS I'm not a calvinist.

[@AubreyForever]

Calvinism contradicts grace alone. the Bible says nobody should preach another gospel.

[@Ron-jw3ty]

Exactly how does it teach that? Calvinism teaches the 5 Sola's Sola Scriptura, or “God’s Word alone,” maintains that the Bible is the highest source of authority in a Christian’s life, the final court of appeal (though not the only authority: the Bible itself mentions governmental and other authorities). Sola fide, or “faith alone,” affirms that justification-being made right with God-comes only through faith in Jesus. *Sola gratia, or “grace alone,” says sinners are saved as an unearned gift of God’s grace, “not as a result of works, so that no one may boast” (Eph 2:8-9Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).* Sola Christo (“solus Christus”), or “Christ alone,” emphasizes the exclusivity of Jesus’ role in salvation: “No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). And soli Deo gloria, or “to the glory of God alone,” says that the purpose of creation, salvation, and everything-including our goal as Christians-is the glory of God, “that God may be all in all” (1 Cor 15:28Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). Sola Gratia Theology must be grace-saturated. If we are saved by faith, then we are saved not by works but by grace alone (Rom. 11:6). Grace is God’s generous disposition by which He lavishes us with good things that we do not deserve. Everything we receive from God is by grace, from our daily bread to the final resurrection of our bodies

[@ElliotKohanim]

I think it's important to play the what John MacArthur said after he found out. That is an old clip from John MacArthur.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

John addressed the secret sins, but not anything else. That is the point of this video. I'm aware of the recent statements he made, and took them into consideration. Thanks for commenting.

[@KildaltonTheologicalStudies]

Well, you have taxis that are part of a company and you have Uber drivers who are an independent car-for-hire. The seminary system is built the same way. as most are not under the auspices of the church and receive their accreditation from the state. If you buy into this system, why would you think that these Christian leaders would act any different? They are Uber preachers.

[@sherrimanco8472]

Who will stand for Righteousness if not the Church? Who will stand with the Church if there is none who is Righteous The Church is lacking the Righteousness of Christ The Fruit is dry The River is dry Many are walking by the Flesh and not by the Spirit Carnal not Spiritual Christian’s own many Book’s 📚 When All They needed was One… The One True Word of God

[@newfreedom21]

I followed JM for years, buying some of his books and sermons, but I just had to let him go around 2005, just too many contradiction, much of his basic bible teaching is ok, but I could not suggested him to a new believer.

[@matheusdionisiodasilva1454]

I'm not sure if this is edifying...

[@samfranklin659]

Steve Lawson's decisions are not edifying.

[@jarrelljohnson5536]

They are not legit teachers.

[@janwarriner6554]

What did his non profit do? I just read the description. How can what he claims to do justify non profit status in the first place! As for him being paid for preaching but not a member of the church…my church has had difficulty finding a minister. We are a small church and I believe financially we cannot offer much in the way of compensation to lure a pastor to accept our approaching him to become our pastor. Each Sunday we have a guest minister. I’m assuming these guests are paid to come and preach to our church congregation. If we didn’t do this we would have no preacher at all. I’m afraid that would lead our church to disband altogether. We do have deacons who probably take care of any church business and we have a church Secretary. So is my situation any different thanDr. Lawson? I’m not sure. As for his transgression against God’s word I feel if he were to repent publicly to the congregants and to God it far more fitting in EVERY way than to just run and hide. In the final verdict he will be judged by God on Judgement day. Tho I do not approve of his actions and find him to be a hypocrite I can not be his judge. That is left only to God. As for John if he was unaware of Steve’s sin I don’t feel this reflects on his ability to lead his own church. Jon was not the sinner in this case. Steve was.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Here is a mission statement for OnePassion: "OnePassion Ministries exists to encourage Christians in their faith and provide them with resources from the teaching ministry of Dr. Steven Lawson to aid them in their Christian walk. Specifically they seek to equip evangelical pastors to teach and exposit the Bible." It appears it's based on him promoting his own doctrine and materials. It's not a charity in the traditional sense of the word.

[@janwarriner6554]

@@JDsVarietyChannelif not a charity how is his nonprofit status allowed? Guiding other people to preach does not a non profit make. He was given a salary from his non profit. I smell a fish. I’d like to add many evangelicals have done the same sin and supposedly repented. Swaggers and Jim baker are examples. If we truly are not repentant but just say we are that doesn’t sit well with God because it’s deceitful. As a whole I’m very skeptical of evangelicals. Many live in multi million dollar homes. It’s a common thread with them. I think they’re more interested in money for themselves than preaching God’s word. I do not feel many are men of God. I did read up on Steve Lawson. I have never heard of him before your video.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

I have no idea how such non-profits get approved, I'm not a lawyer or IRS agent. It does seem that non-profits such as these don't fit the definitions most people think of for tax exempt status. If you look at the breakdown of how the funds are used (which I didn't cover) they have a horrible donor contribution to salary/compensation ratio once they pay everyone involved. The first test of a charity is where the funds go, to help people or line pockets.

[@janwarriner6554]

@@JDsVarietyChannel this disturbs me greatly because he’s using God/Christ to line his own pockets. I wish our non profit rules were more stringent. This man also defrauds our government. I do not consider him a man of God.

[@chrisking6874]

Your church should be raising up preachers from your own members and laying hands on them. No place biblically for bible colleges. I’m sure there are some in your church who desire the office of a bishop.

[@ReasoningTogether-podcast]

Good stuff

[@BonnieCain-z2k]

I am NOT a follower of men. BTW, "why" can't you guys just stop! Why sre you making money on these dismal failures. 🤔

[@RonMeadows-ri1ec]

1 John 2:27 KJV....you need "NO MAN" to teach you....."PERIOD"....it says what it means and means what it says......I discovered that way way back..."Many" years ago.

[@joycepartee7797]

Amen, he was a Hireling! He just wanted the Money.

[@cranmer1959]

Lawson is already rich. Too late to remove him with any real disciplinary sanctions. 09:15

[@Ron-jw3ty]

I am not trying to be argumentative, because I Love ALL my Brothers and Sisters in Christ. But how exactly was it deceptive when it clearly stated on the church's website that he was the "lead Preacher" not the Pastor? And whether Steve Lawson is truly Born-Again or not, only God knows. But unlike most of the pastors/preachers that have been caught up in sin, Steve did not teach hearesy and his sermons are/ were actually biblical

[@kelvineaster6593]

I am not sure what is wrong with the commendation. The work of a man is to be honored. In this case we simply discovered lawson dissimulation. Good points in your video overall in respect to being careful of crossing the line.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

My main point wasn't so much focusing on the general commendation, but the intimate nature of saying things like the Lord knit their hearts together, and him being his favorite preacher to listen to. The latter could be viewed as a form of idolatry, ranking the brethren and showing unbiblical partiality. I covered this last point in other videos. This seems to have been a pattern with Lawson, and some of those surrounding him. I'm simply suggesting they are indeed knit together in spirit (by admission) . But is it for Godly reasons? MacArthur has his name plastered all over bibles, and I must be honest in saying such things don't sit well with me. Are these men bringing God praise or themselves? I think these are honest questions one should ask. Anyhow, thanks for your respectful comment.

[@woolenslippers4124]

We will have tears in the wheat. This is just biblical and has happend since the church started satan is at work in the church? We always have to keep our guard up and use the Bible to defend. We can’t just blame John MacArthur.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

The wheat and the tare parable if frequently misinterpreted. The tares are the world, and the wheat are God's people, coexisting together on earth until Jesus returns. Read it in context. It's not a statement promising wolves will be among us in our assemblies. I was also taught this wrong and believed like you did at one point. This false interpretation has been used to control laity from bringing up issues. That being said, if we are not careful wolves can infiltrate. This wolf was allowed by many different reformed leaders to infiltrate the flock for years. The question is why? Either they have proven to lack shepherding abilities, were severely complacent, or they are wolves themselves. That is how I see it.

[@woolenslippers4124]

I’m okay with your interpretation, but we don’t know who they are till Heaven, preachers or lay people. Not till Jesus comes again will this be resolved. Plus, Steve wasn’t apart of a Congregation…so is he from the World then? We will always have sinners in the Church(that’s everybody) and use the Bible to hold them accountable, hence the need to hear the Gospel constantly. Again, blaming hasn’t gotten us anywhere, I would say it’s just made us more condemning in the Last 20 plus years. We, the (c)atholic Church should pray, and live out what we believe and combat sin with Gods Grace, Word, and truth. I can’t blame this on John Macthur or any person but Steve, he is the one that’s holds the responsibility.

[@jamesbradshaw474]

Are you aware of the statement that John MacArthur made regarding Steve Larsen? He has repudiated Lawsen’s actions. He still loves him but is heart broken over Steve’s sin. I’m not sure what you are trying to prove, but John is not embracing Steve’s fallen nature. He believes that Steve should be removed from all forms of leadership.

[@understandingtruth10]

Well he was not a very good Preacher/minister and fell into sin. Even the those that would seem to be most Elect sometime fall. We should pray for repentance concerning him and his salvation. But we all are capable of sinning at times, sadly this man really let it get ahold of him and ruined his ministry and the reputation of the Church. We must press towards the mark and keep a close eye on ourselves and our own teaching. We must preserver in the grace of God, and never let sin get ahold of us like this man that was tempted and failed. But me must forgive him in Christ Jesus and move on. The true Elect of God will be known at the end of the age, and it is best to stay humble and esteem those who are less significant as more important that those who would seem to have it all.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

I strive not to hold personal grudges against anyone. And certainly, if anyone if struggling with unforgiveness toward Steve they should address it. I did pray for him in a previous video. I'm aware covering scandals can come across as focusing on drama, and I try not to fit that typical mold. I prefer making more substantive videos, but sometimes bringing awareness to such things can be useful for others.

[@sharonjosefik766]

J D I believe God Almighty is the Judge and God alone will Judge. There many LAY speakers that speak in churches THEY can give a sermon for pay however the abusers are those who did not bother to check on this mans credibility. This is my openion. I will leave God to judge bot I however if he has violated our laws such as violations of The I R S they are charged to charge him with violation

[@stevena9384]

A little bit of backstory would have done wonders. You sort of assume you audience knows all you're talking about.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

I apologize I didn't cover more in this video. It wasn't meant to be exhaustive, but an addition to previous videos I have released.

[@debrawilder9551]

Well many following understand whats going on and one can watch back videos if they feel lost

[@jamesforrestal8206]

Fake pastor that's a good one.

[@gaylehoy2065]

yeah don't overflow Lawson onto Johnny Mac --- John Macarthur is the first to say he was deceived as well by Lawson -- we are all gullible creature and this just shows no matter how on fire one can be for the Lord -- if John Mac. can be deceived by Lawson then anyone can. Lets just leave John Mac alone --- and leave Lawson to face this sin himself.

[@catalinoguinit4775]

To talk or speak pro or anti about Steve does not edify. I hope you raffler or whoever in the U S better than us here in Asia. I pray that this un-edifying practice be stopped!

[@Ron-jw3ty]

And yes, John MacArthur and him were friends for over 25 years. Are you trying to give the impression that John MacArthur is also a false teacher? I see your channel is not solely dedicated to Christianity. In fact, there is hardly any mention of Christianity until this scandal broke. Are you trying to cause division?

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Respectfully, I don't try to give impressions, and hate when people try to make veiled or sarcastic content that is not concise. I think the content of the video was clear for others to judge, and they can dig into it deeper if they desire to examine MacArthur further. I was only highlighting that smart people in leadership do not have the luxury of playing the ignorance card. This was conveniently swept under the rug without any deep introspection of what may have gone wrong. One example I covered in previous videos, is that Steve was openly spewing idolatrous statements prior to the scandal, and no one around him (that I'm aware of) rebuked him. The warning signs of an authoritative narcissist were present. He was scrubbed from the internet by many ministries, and they moved on. If he only preached truth as you say, then why are they scrubbing the Word of God from the internet, not just Steve? You also have to presume the overarching basis of his teachings, that Calvinism is the perfect Word of God. If you hold to that, I'm not here to debate that point. But to say he never taught any error is a stretch. Did you listen to his last public sermon? Truly bizarre. I do find it odd that you would even insinuate I may have improper motives simply because a KZbin channel of mine does not have much "Christian" content prior to my recent videos. So it's permissible for you to question my motives publicly without evidence, yet it's improper of me to make serious, time consuming presentations, and be very carful with my words? That sounds like a double standard to me. You could have just disagreed with me, and stuck with your counter arguments respectfully, in stead of brining up my motives, and I would have engaged with your questions. Did you even try to watch any of my non bible related videos to vet my character? I've been on here since 2012. My actions and lifestyle are not hidden under a rock. I've taken a lot of criticism for being a Christian, because much of my audience are not. Since I don't mind addressing. I have a small channel with only Christian related content. I sabotaged my own large channel in order to cover more important topics recently. Are you implying that someone who has hobbies means they are not devoted to Christ? How do you know how someone lives behind the scenes? Did it ever cross your mind that KZbin ministry may not be something I'm primarily called to? You think I'm making improper insinuations, while you freely suggest them yourself. I will choose not to think poorly of you, but will only kindly suggest that you reflect on your own actions before making negative comments about a brother in Christ based on your incredibly shallow assessment. I'm not trying to be harsh, and I'm not upset. I also want the best for you, and am not trying to pick a fight. Please just consider what I say. I truly hope that your veneration of people in big leadership positions has not caused you to marginalize others.

[@JosephB-c1e]

You are guilty of ravenous gossip. REPENT

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Provide one unsubstantiated claim that I made.

[@JosephB-c1e]

@@JDsVarietyChannel Gossip is Gossip no matter how you slice it. Obviously you have very little selfcontrol, and all the fruits of the Spirit, must contain Love. You need clarification on the 9 fruits of the Spirit, then recheck your video.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

​@@JosephB-c1e You still haven't refuted a single statement I made, and continue to bear false witness against me with ad hominem and character slander. Gossip is the passing of rumors. I did not make a single statement based on a rumor, which is why you can't respond with details. If you disagree with my take, not a problem, you can share your opinions. But I did not engage in gossip. I will accept an apology if you want to drop it and start over. Otherwise, please provide your church, so I can get in touch with any elders you are accountable to and make them aware of your unfounded accusations so they can make a decision about your behavior. If not willing to apologize or comply with my request, you have proven that you are only accountable to yourself, and need not respond further if you want to hide behind anonymity.

[@JosephB-c1e]

@@JDsVarietyChannelOkay, you maybe right about the word "Gossip" so I'll give that one to you, for now. You said I could share my opinion, okay. I see you as a nurdy busy body, a pseudo arbiter of theology, deriving notoriety from other peoples pain and sorrow. It seems apparent to me, as a child and adolescent you were bullied by the nasty type. Well, several friends I had back in the day grade school, high school, army etc., were guys like you. I always felt sad that they were being tormented by bullies, and as the skinny kid that I was, I exploded at the bully no matter the size. Consequently I took a few beatings. I was always terrified but wouldn't and couldn't quit til' the bully quit. The only thing that has changed today is it's not physical at 81 years old, mainly because I'm not terrified anymore and most of all I do my best to follow Christ Jesus. I'm Peter, I'm a simple man, my protective nature for others is still intact, I'm quite sure I wouldn't cut your ear off,.... tongue possibly...But I hope not. It appears to me that the bullied has become the bully, it appears also, when you're expounding about others sin, you put on a sorrowfull facial expression and a pitiful tone...truly it seems like a camouflage, of innocent, sorrowful pity, on your part. I wouldn't give a busybody like you, any pertinent information about me. Besides I'm not accountable to elders in churches, I live too far away and have Christian brothers and Pastors I can confide in each other. Internet can be a good thing, although in more cases it's harmful. It reminds me of the way people all hidden in cars are very aggresive, but face to face much more polite. I found it amusing that you think I would hide from anything, much less anonymity. I'd much rather speak face to face, I'm quite sure you would like me and visa versa. I would never ask you to apologize to me as you'd be forgiven before your last syllable left your lips. You have the green light to respond as much as you wish. I'm up in Alberta Canada, let me and my wife know if you're ever up this way, you would be wecome to spend a few days and enjoy a good steak, even a good bible study. BFN.✌

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Great. You're gotten to some substance. Thank-you for retracting the gossip claim. Since the Lawson scandal started, I was extremely careful not to say anything that couldn't be substantiated, not even saying he committed adultery when many others were. Regarding "deriving notoriety from other peoples pain and sorrow." The exact opposite is the objective truth. This has primarily been a hobby channel, and covering faith related topics as expected has caused an exodus from the channel. Admittedly, about 7 years ago I cared about channel building, until I realized it was an exercise in vanity. I'm very interested in issues surrounding Calvinism. Now you may disagree given your critique, but I have seen it damage the lives of people for many years, and I'm convinced it creates many issues within Christianity. Yes, I have a very low view of men like Steve Lawson, but I also prayed for him in a former video. His arrogance was not hidden before his fall, which I covered in previous videos. I don't take pleasure in it. I just happen to be the only person I'm aware of that called him out on public idolatrous statements which were not hidden. I'm simply trying to educate people on how to avoid narcissists and conmen. People like Steve greatly damage the faith of others. His spiritual victim went to TMU as a student (who would have only been about 20 when this started) and had a bio praising him. This appears to be a case of what would be classified as clergy abuse. I personally know someone who was groomed by a "spiritual leader". It's despicable. There are other Calvinists even covering previous issues with him. This is a pivotal juncture where hard but needed conversations are taking place. I don't feel better about myself by critiquing others. Steve has yet to apologize, showing he still actively hates the people he claimed to love and shepherd. I will offer no apologies for blasting this man in a constructive but confrontational way. If he repents of all, that will be a different story. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion of thinking I'm a busybody. But covering the scandal of a highly public figure is not the same as diving into everyone's business and following all the latest tales. I'm not interested in becoming a polemics based channel, though I may do such videos on occasion if I think it's warranted. I do find it quite fascinating how from a single video you're willing to ramble on about what you think someone's character and motives are, while appealing to fruits of the spirit. Naturally, we directly oppose one another and are in complete disagreement. In your incredibly long follow up message, you still have only used ad hominem, appealing to alleged insecurities. And I didn't know if you would hide. I simply put that out there, as it quickly separates the keyboard warriors from those who are willing to back up their words, so I do respect you for responding. I appreciate the invite. I don't expect I'll be in Canada anytime soon, but if I ever am, I wouldn't be opposed to talking you up on your offer. I'm not a violent or passive aggressive person, and I also prefer to talk in person. Maybe consider reaching out to one of your Christian brothers/pastors and letting them read this thread, to see if they think you're making unfounded speculations/accusations about me. None of us should be above reproof. I've certainly had to make my fair share of apologies throughout life, and reckon there will probably be more in the future, as I'm aware that mans nature can quickly lean toward pride when not being watchful.

[@mikes11220]

You need some soul searching.

[@JDsVarietyChannel]

Yes, everyone needs to self reflect, as the scriptures tell us to examine ourselves.

[@samfranklin659]

Good point. Every human must search his soul, and work out his salvation with fear and trembling.

[@TheTrueSonOfFire]

Does trinity Bible church honor the Lord's Supper every Sunday with one loaf of unleavened bread and one cup of unfermented wine? If not, then its most likely not a church built by Jesus. Thats just one requirement of Christ's bridegroom.

[@samfranklin659]

To be a true Church, they must claim apostolic succession. And yes, the Holy Sacrament of communion must be shared every Sunday.