Steve Rogers: A Hydra Agent?! (ANAD Captain America: Steve Rogers Vol 1: Hail Hydra)

[@TamalesDeRajas]

It was so awesome to see the “Hail hydra” Cap play out in Endgame even just for a second

[@galenmarek7107]

Cap is a villain Doom is a hero Hulk is dead some Chinese dude took over Tony is a mass murderer, a Stark bastard, and a girl is taking over his mantle. Thor is unworthy and Jane takes over his mantle Convoluted cosmic cubes deus ex machina all over the landscape I vote #MarvelRebirth.

[@victormanyeruke9997]

Implying marvel continuity made sense in the 80s-2000s

[@galenmarek7107]

One true Zimbo At least they weren't f*cking up the X-Men just to give Fox the finger like they are today.

[@Akhaandir]

You do realise this isnt the first time they've done something similar to mutants correct? Maybe you remember a little event called House of M, where scarlet witch says "No more mutants"

[@victormanyeruke9997]

+Galen Marek ahem did you not about the whole "Resuxion" marvel announced with over 12 x men new titles?

[@galenmarek7107]

One true Zimbo Yeah and I've also noticed the jab and mild midfing that they gave about "Rebirth? How can something be rebirth-ing" or sth like that. Had no hopes for ResurXion, but I'll see how it goes.

[@UnfaithfulServant97]

"Hail Hydra..."- Steve Rogers. *I did Nazi that coming.*

[@Luke-fu9er]

A regular Plumbus corny

[@isaiahnunez1796]

I'm actually done.

[@arcanefury121]

A regular Plumbus f u that's clever

[@arcanefury121]

A regular Plumbus but seriously though I truly hope this doesn't end

[@Dream0Asylum]

Steve Rogers is really taking his role as a Hydra Agent to SS. He should take a Poland figure out his next move before the Avengers catch him when his panzer down. Anne Frankly, Stalin will just make things worse.

[@daemonblackfyre3238]

Steve kills Red Skull then cuts of his own face. Assembles all villains under the guise "Red Skull". Kills the Avengers. Old Man Logans dystopian future. Reason why Red Skull was dressed as Captain America in Old Man Logan.

[@rell127]

Daemon Blackfyre Would make sense

[@plamenminchev6563]

Origin of Old Man Logan timeline? :P

[@daemonblackfyre3238]

Plamen Minchev Yea.

[@smashmaster521]

How did Logan get young again?

[@skrv8588]

Now I want a What If story where DOOOOM leads Hydra.

[@TheTheDontae]

skrv go read ultimate spider-man

[@skrv8588]

Victor Van Damme isn't the real Doom.

[@TheTheDontae]

skrv yes/no

[@SuperShanko]

I want one where he stiffs modern Luke Cage on a bill again.

[@Its_Eli-s3i]

"Where's my money honey"

[@NatsaryahTX]

So, this series has turned out to be exactly the opposite of what people predicted? It wouldn't be the first time people have jumped the gun.

[@LunaticReason]

People are still going to hate it because they hate it when people screwing with the status quo and what screws that more than Cap being revealed as a Hydra agent.

[@galenmarek7107]

People don't like that they made Cap essentially a villain. No matter how good the storyline is, the concept failed to grab most people.

[@UnifiedEntity]

GRAHF This is the reason people loved Superior Spiderman. I hated it because Peter was "killed" but he himself didn't become evil or something. We just got someone else living Spiderman's life and changing but realizing he is not Spiderman to the level Peter was and came back. But this is using Steve, OUR Steve the thing he's always stood for even in the face of Thanos ....and flipping it on its neck

[@NatsaryahTX]

But even in this story Steve Rogers isn't evil on his own free will. I don't see the problem.

[@mk-tg1fn]

I would think people are upset because of how disrespectful it is to the creators of Cap who are jewish. They created Cap to be a direct foil to Nazism which is what hydra represents. So to turn around and make Cap Hydra is kinda disrespectful. The story is amazing but just the whole thing is kinda ehhhhh.

[@jacobheine3260]

I really enjoy having you tell the story then just reading to the comic alone! Huge fan here, you definitely have the best comic Channel on KZbin, don't ever stop making videos!

[@yungslyme4341]

Jacob Heine well I think comicstorian is better but it's just an opinion

[@jacobheine3260]

Thanks bud I'll give that channel a look, I haven't heard of that one!

[@zo9555]

Now before we get started, *Hail hydra*

[@libertyprime9202]

ChapZ 14 hail hydra

[@FueledFromFiction]

Crossbones: oh... Everyone: *continues with their day*

[@mohammadrickypratama6720]

Who watch this after seeing Avengers Endgame ?

[@aframs-cctaf-rams-cct6424]

Mohammad Ricky Pratama noone

[@professorthree]

Well now that Thor is a woman, Iron Man is a black girl, and Hulk is now an Asian dude; it makes total sense that the last remaining white cis hetero male Avenger would be revealed as a Nazi.

[@SomeOrdinaryGooners]

Thundercles amen

[@gardenrabbit3565]

Can we pls get a Muslim ghost rider it's 2016

[@tea-perialistgaming8217]

Thundercles does it count since his history has been rewritten due to Kubeck? This storyline was actually a really well written one that has major future possibilities.

[@professorthree]

Cody Luttrell OF COURSE it counts because reasons! I hate change! But also it will probably be a good story. I still like to complain about stuff though, so SCREW YOU MARVEL NOW KEEP TAKING MY MONEY.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Gardenrabbit356 we already have a lower class Latino gr

[@mathewsmith8031]

this makes the civil war 2 story so much better wish it had been a main part of the story

[@travisdk84]

"red skulls speech about returning america to how great it was" it's a bit on the nose, but if the shoe fits

[@mannysikario]

Can Doodle Ikr? A bit erie

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

Except that whole "fear instead of freedom" thing. right? But hey, why would a country where the potential president says "I'll have a talk with white people about their racistness" be bad. Surely fixing the obvious racism that fester in the heart of all white people, or a president that believes all white people harbor secret racist feelings and that she can cure them with a talk is much better than free speech. Marvel has gone out of their way to be as one sided as possible, weighing in on politics at every opportunity. That should scare you, since Hydra's mission, specifically was "Working behind the scenes" and here we have a behind the scenes attempt to influence the minds of readers. If it's bad for Hydra, why is it OK for Marvel? Right, because people like you think Trump is a Nazi for some reason, so it's OK. Let Marvel make an analogue Hillary villain and watch the outrage. (But we know that will never happen, don't we)

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

It's not eerie. It's planned. This isn't a case of accidental things, it's a targeted hit by Marvel. You don't see all the shows that have been doing the same thing? They all have a "Trump clone" that hates everyone or is a white supremacist or a nazi. Sure, it's just art, but really? Where are the Hillary clones? The Dilbert creator said hillary was bad and they boycotted his work, called him a nazi, and threatened his life. Comics are supposed to be different from the real world, but they still manage to get their political views in your face. Because when it's the correct side, it's all about "It's just comics, can't you take a joke?" and when it's the other side, it's "hey, that's bullying and this is no place for politics!"

[@Citadel_Of_My_Thoughts]

Maybe most people actually don't like a slimeball like Trump rather than it being a conspiracy theory. I don't expect you to take that to heart though. Trumpsters thrive on conspiracy theories.

[@travisdk84]

Morenath Blanco yeah i see this from you trumpians quite a lot. Like when trump says "where are all the women accusing obama of sexual assault?" It's because there arent any. The reason why you dont see any evil hitleresque characters in pop culture that are a reflection of hillary is because hillary is not a megalomaniac demagogue spouting racist rhetoric. That's why. It's not some grand conspiracy or liberal bias on EVERY SINGLE CHANNEL and in EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of pop culture is because your candidate Trump is a monster. Jesus christ wake up and smell the coffee or just drink the kool aid already

[@kcivts]

I didn't think I would like civil war 2, but it's amazing. Thank you for covering it.

[@AshXXMayftw]

Wait, wasn't this the comic many fans were crying over months back?

[@TevyaSmolka]

yep this is the one

[@AshXXMayftw]

Tevya Smolka And it actually turned out good?

[@TevyaSmolka]

***** yep unlike superior spider-man which was garbage in my opinion this one like Superior iron man is actually really good

[@AshXXMayftw]

Tevya Smolka Excuse me, I need to go laughing my butt off at their stupidity.

[@TevyaSmolka]

***** lol i concur with that

[@spammusubi86]

I'll admit, when I originally heard about this twist to Cap's character, I was more than a little skeptical. Thank you for explaining it in such a great way. I now think this is one of the best story arcs Cap has had in a long time. It will be interesting to see the fallout once it's over. Keep op the good work.

[@joluoto]

Makes no sense that Hydra Cap has stopped Hydra countless of times then, or was that removed when the Cubic changed his past?

[@Nerwrax15]

Nothing was removed, his mind was altered to believe he was always a member.

[@finddantehere]

no he basically fought against hydra as a double agent. He was gaining the trust of america and superheroes while really working for red skull behind the scenes

[@adeelnissar5965]

Jonathan Luoto That never mattered because the capacity to do damage that hydra steve rogers had was so great that no matter how many small skirmishes and battles he fought against hydra, the end game would lead to the the demise of shield and rise of hydra. And all the while was still doing countless nefarious activities and missions in secrecy that greatly benefitted hydra

[@joluoto]

Nerwrax15 Speaking of which, is Hydra existing in the 1920s a result of secret wars? Weren't they formed by Red Skull and von Strucker during WW2.

[@SamoanSamurai]

+Jonathan Luoto It is actually really simple. He stop's Hydra's projects that "not important" or ones that are not deemed necessary. He informs the higher ups on anything he is engaged in so Hydra has time to move or remove anything they might want to keep. A double agent can provide a lot of things like letting people "get away" when they need them to. Also its probably skipped over so the story can be more fluid.

[@merlinpartlow2587]

i dont read comics much anymore. but i like watching your channel so you can explain them to me. if you dont stay on top of comics, you get lost in them.

[@jonfedien8637]

Rob you've saved my evening I was caught up with everything on the pulls channels and was considering lower calibre conic channels thank you

[@Wren4123]

This seemed like a succinct story! You did a great job rearranging the chronology!!

[@cagnazzo82]

This 'all new, all different' Marvel... ...boy, I can't wait till this era ends.

[@DarkWatcherDS]

It's only gotten worse so hope you're having fun with "snowflake" and "safespace"

[@jonathanhoward9533]

This has been an awesome run. This is Spencer turning Marvel's Hulk Hogan heel. I had the same gutteral reaction when Cap said Hail Hydra as I did when Hulk dropped the big leg on Macho Man. It's a crazy emotional reaction but kneejerk makes you hate it. If you see what's happening its dope. The irony that Cap is still going to fight and kill Red Skull is. amazing too. This is very different, its upsetting for the emotional and for folks that feel its too much change too often but this is dope. Kudos to Spencer.

[@vicvega5671]

i was blown away when i read the comic and found out he was behind so much of the events in civil war.great plot!!!

[@zetarise9376]

Been reading each issue as they come out, really liked the writing, it's been so well done and man, it actually makes Civil War 2 somewhat enjoyable. Remember when people were like "marvel is backpedaling" as if comics aren't planned ahead of time, especially with us pretty much having a basic idea of what was going on thanks to Red Skull during Standoff. Also reading the latest issue, I can see how it isn't "brainwashing", one line came up, the war is coming, something 2 other books or more have mentioned during this week's release. Something is coming as of course Rob and anyone reading Ultimates knows (New Avengers too), Eternity is chained. It may seem that either Kobix knows this too, or of course there is more going on. Just super excited to see where this all leads. Sure Steve is Hydra right now, but not Red Skull's hydra, but a better one, one which still has that Steve Rogers ideals put into it but more twisted. Another thing, everything from Secret Wars 2015 is either in or making its way into All New All Different Marvel in some form. Cap's thing would basically be loosely related to the Hail Hydra book.

[@blairwest5962]

Rob, I need more! I gotta find out more about captain america and the civil war 2. This has me on the edge of my seat! I'm so glad that you covered this.

[@shazzanakim3612]

Why hasn't Black Widow figured this out yet. She's like Marvel's super spy right?

[@Darkslayer289]

Shouldn't all telepaths know as well?

[@Sully3000]

Well I mean it's Steve rogers, one of if not the most respected avenger there is. No one is going to suspect him even if they suspect some foul play. And Rogers is smart enough to leave no incriminating evidence pointing towards him, well apart from Rick flag...but most likely he'll wake up an not remember what happened.

[@joshuagiehll3737]

.....no one has EVER noticed the giant hydra tattoo on his chest?

[@Sully3000]

+Joshua Giehll he paints in on when he's talking with red skull, probably cleans it off after

[@joshuagiehll3737]

Sully 1147 ah didn't know that.

[@cheshirekat3050]

(somewhere inside the offices of Marvel) "Hey Jim-bob?" "Yeah Billy-bob?" "Our comic sales have been dropping really badly for the past several years. What do you think that we should do about that?" "Well, we could reverse the policies which drove away most of the fan-base; hire more women editors, writers, and artists in order to bring back the female demographic (which is 50% of the population, so that's a large untapped pool, right there). And we could relaunch the kid-friendly titles like we used to have with the Star line in the '80s, so that our industry could get new readers (the 7-to-10-year-old range) , who would gradually move on to more mature titles as they got older. And we could restructure our distribution model by putting comics back on racks in the checkout aisles of supermarkets and drugstores, where kids too young to drive, could access them, and beg their parents to buy them as they waited in line. And if a lot of those titles were kid-friendly, the parents would be a lot more likely to say "yes" ". "Or we could just save ourselves all of that hassle, and create a huge controversy by giving the fans a huge middle-finger by completely destroying the history and morality of the most patriotic, well-known, and well-loved Marvel character in history. I'm sure that it couldn't possibly backfire, and cause many of our already dwindling customers to drop the book (and maybe Marvel titles altogether) in disgust." "Yeah! That's a great idea!"

[@halfcentaur2171]

I like it. As long as it doesn't stick. Kinda feels messed up to have Steve Rogers parents killed and him brainwashed into Hydra... Maybe once he moves on Red Skull, Skull will hit the "undo" button.

[@Tyler_Lalonde-]

It never got better. Captain America is still a nazi.

[@mentallimbo3845]

I cannot begin to explain how amazing your channel is. Thank you so very much for doing this. I look forward to seeing your uploads, and I love the world of comics. You help enhance it. For that, I thank you.

[@AgentOrange17]

I wont lie, I was one of the guys super pissed and ranting on the interwebs about this when I first saw it. A buddy talked me down and said lets just see how it plays out. Honestly, now that it has progressed, I am extremely impressed with the story arch and am enjoying it. The cosmic cube sealed the deal for me, as it wasnt a retcon, just an elaborate scheme with the aide of a extremely powerful weapon. Keep up the good work Rob!

[@Tyler_Lalonde-]

That was the retcon . Cap is a Nazi. They didn't fix anything. They kept him a nazi and made a new cap to try and hide their screw up.

[@beaubentley6028]

Rob this was awesome. Have really appreciated all of your videos you caused me to run a old school D100 Marvel game. I cant wait to hook them on this. thanks for all the great content.

[@travisdk84]

I know this is just a comic booky plot device and all but with the way they descirbed steve becoming a hydra agent as a child wouldnt he have been a hydra agent during the first civil war? Like is caps continuity exactly the same except he was just biding his time for not one but THE SECOND civil war to make a move? this whole cosmic cube changing his history is raises so many questions and plot holes i honestly wish they would have just made red skull mind control him with xaviors brain

[@Chandasouk]

Man, I remember the shit storm that came after the Hydra reveal. I wasn't too outraged, just thought Spencer wanted to tell new stories, but it took a while to get used to. I haven't been reading because of Civil War II though...that must end soon lol

[@matiascarvalho9424]

This is one of the only things that Im loving about Marvel publications right now! (Im a Marvel guy)

[@TheVeryHungrySingularity]

Even if the media took the hail hydra part out of context, it's a great way to get people otherwise to read it. I don't read comics and it got me interested

[@tree_fingers]

I wonder if Spencer and Bendis confer at all about the Civil War 2 story...or if Bendis is like "goddamn Spencer, giving believable motivations to my characters!" and Spencer is just doing it all on his own. lol

[@monkeydylon]

its a pretty cool idea to do for captain america its got people talking. Its probably one of the more interesting things to do with his character.

[@anonymousaccount4483]

I thought there was no way they were going to reference this in film, but I was wrong

[@fogbrother4576]

When I first heard the news, I was shocked and appalled. Cap is my favorite. Now that I know what has happened, I find this twist very intriguing. The Cosmic Cube has always been a huge plot device for Marvel and altering reality, but I feel like it's never been used so well until now. The cube has always been thwarted before true damage was done. Not anymore. Great stuff.

[@Jackal_El_Lobo34]

I only wished that the fanboys weren't harassing the writer for this change to the point to where he was forced to reveal that Captain America wasn't really working for Hydra out of free will.

[@erikenn]

Charlie Channel Cap has never been more popular thanks to his movies, that seem to get great treatment from Marvel and Disney, so there was going to be backlash by taking THE individual that represents the American Ideal. That said this story seems to be as well done as it can be. Considering that mucking with time and "memories" is convoluted inherently.

[@overlycaffeinatedsquirrel779]

Yea it's been a double edged sword. Though I doubt it was fan boys threatening the writer, or at least I hope so. Geeks are better than that. Status quo changes all the time. The Reign of Superman has become a normal cycle.

[@THEDolphin3D]

Charlie Channel

[@SkuIIKn1ght]

It was an ass pull of an idea and he go shit on for it, I don't see a problem here.

[@Shaddowkhan]

I had no idea, this really does make CW II more intriguing.

[@doctorleak5312]

when captain America became basically captain hydra why hasn't things changed in the marvel universe like his fights against hydra his deep artic sleep and so on and so forth

[@Nerwrax15]

Because his history wasn't actually rewritten, only his memories.

[@zetarise9376]

Also because the multiverse right now is in the 8th cycle, everything is memories as far as we're concerned prior to Secret Wars. People seem to forget that everyone was essentially reborn in a new universe that has changed in different forms. As far as we're concerned, the history only goes for over 8 months after Secret Wars

[@davidavila9703]

That reminds me of the "the universe was created last thursday" theory some people have.

[@bajansamurai]

+doctor leak - Actually, it is heavily suggested that Kobik reached into the past, had the woman become part of his history, setting Cap on a path to Hydra indoctrination. A different upbringing led him to the long game of fighting Hydra all the same publicly, but behind the scenes seeding conflict between heroes. Things haven't changed in the MU because essentially everything played out the same way we remember it, without knowing Cap was a sleeper agent. The only other caveat is as +Zeta Rise mentioned, there are slight differences because of the new cycle of the universe. Which is deeper than some realize because in accordance with Secret Wars meaning there are slight differences to history, Kobik caused a difference to history by altering Cap's past; hence holding the theme of ANAD to be true.

[@arcanefury121]

doctor leak All those fights happened. Cap's mind has been altered not the universe itself. He just thinks he's a deep cover agent. If I were the skull I'd probably make it reality not make him think it's real

[@etherraichu]

"oh yeah, A meeting with the Skull and Tentacle Empire sounds like a totally good idea."

[@AsheCraftingCorner]

So how long before he is just a double agent or something REALLY stupid

[@galactusthedestroyer1111]

Yuudai Its already been revealed that he had his mind tempered with.

[@Nutt_lemmings]

Redskull is Donald trump,like turning America great again *)

[@TheTheDontae]

Yuudai nah he isn't a double agent The living in by the middle of the cosmic cube that restored his youth rewrote moments at his history that made him loyal to hydra but with a twist

[@theblackprinceofnyc]

You should probably read the books, yourself. Yuudai. It was revealed he has his own agenda in issue #2.

[@joshuacarpenter7447]

Oh it got even dumber, there's two Steve Rogers now

[@joshuaaustin3748]

I’ve been on a three day bender since I stumbled on to this channel. Love the content thank you for all of this

[@isaiahnunez1796]

You have no idea how long I've waited for this video. This has been my most anticipated comic book story arch.

[@blues4509]

I honestly think that an approach similar to DC's "rebirth" would be great right about now. Return everything back to it's status quo from the cosmic landscape all the way down to street-level while simultaneously keeping all the newly introduced characters giving them their own stories. That way the veterans can be appeased as well as the newcomers.

[@TazDevil50]

it was Amadeus Cho? I keep going what in that made them think ir was Baner and then kill hem

[@angelluna8671]

It was actually Bruce Banner turning into Hulk in that vision that's why Hawkeye killed him, Rob might've said it wrong by accident

[@bajansamurai]

Correct. It wasn't that the vision was of Amadeus Cho, it was of Banner. The event would have supposedly really happened; however, the reveal was that Rogers had Selvig send research to Banner about helping fully cure gamma transformation, but secretly actually was going to be the cause of him turning into Hulk again and going on a spree of destruction and slaughter. Rob just didn't realize that part.

[@JoseMartinez-zv2qg]

ur the coolest man and thanks for taking the time to share.✌💖

[@unethicallemon67]

Lol i just want to see bob working his job drinking cofee and eating a donut in a hydra office and then all of the sudden Captain america shows up at his cofee machine and ask bob for some coffee and bob just says "cap? Oh fucking hell yeah you can have some coffee" and cap just confusingly accepts the coffee and continues his nazi tasks

[@TheStrategist314]

I think it's cool. Adds a whole other layer to the story.

[@juanhandal182]

Actually I'm kinda tired that most "good" stories are about heroes fighting heroes, heroes dying and coming back to life one to many times, heroes going bad then good then bad then good again. I'm tired of Marvel/DC telling the same stories again and again with minor changes. If you like it, I respect that, and yes, its an interesting twist, but Marvel writers had a "fail-safe" if people hated it. This is how events in Marvel/DC are written: Step 1: Apocalypse. Step 2: Some minor and some important heroes die. Step 3: Heroes vrs Heroes just because. Step 4: Plot Twist-->a.- Alternate Reality b.- Supreme Being Controlling Everything c.- Magical Stones Step 5: Everything can be fixed in an instant and returned almost to normal and nothing happened. Everyone is alive and well for the most part. Step 6: Rinse and repeat. PS: Great video. Very well explained. Actually you have the most comprehensive guide to comic development and story. Congrats.

[@ViolenceCity]

This does indeed make Civil War II better. And it makes more sense as well.

[@xavierwooten5907]

Rob I'm proud of ya

[@keenan9084]

Your first! Congrats!

[@sithlord1051]

Wow, I'm going to have to start collecting the new Steve Rogers comic. Well done, sir! I really like this whole story arc; very interested to see where it goes.

[@GamerKonata]

*Unreasonable, unkind comment meant to tear other's down.*

[@waldezurbe]

dick move, man. dock move.

[@blueshell2749]

Guys he's joking get off his dock

[@thearmedchair4164]

**Unwarranted angry response years later**

[@CBPfilm]

you just made a fan today. you breaking this down for me makes me want to read the comics.

[@jays3428]

I've been reading comics for thirty years now and I really don't like the way they have been changing the heroes are as bad as the villains and they change into many of the backstories they should have left things the way they were.

[@victormanyeruke9997]

Remember in the 60s when captain America was brainwashed into being a nazi?yeah this has happened before and like all twists it's just for a good story no need to act like this is the first Tien

[@thepro101]

Yea I remember this story and that was stupid and shitty story too. Anytime you are taking "steve rogers" not capt but Steve rogers and altering his story or "making him more interesting" you trash his character and what he stands for.

[@TheTheDontae]

Jay S this isn't anything new like you said it yourself you been reading comic books for 30 years. member that one time Captain America was punching communist in the face but then they later retcon that.

[@victormanyeruke9997]

+nathan Carrasco what is so wrong about having a VILLAIN try to tarnish caps name,Steve Rogers is a character and like any character he can be subject to twists or new story's,look at superman some of his best stories challenge the idea of truth justice and the American way yet superman fans don't get upset,why?Because they know there character is stron enough to remain true to ther core,spencer didn't. Make cap intersting he pulled a twist that affects everyone in the 616 and could actually help Steve grow as a character,if cap could come out of being a nazi 50 years ago he can come out of being a hydra agent today

[@jays3428]

my comment is on the Captain America story but it wasn't meant only for Captain America I'm saying that comic books have taken a darker turn it used to be that a superhero wouldn't killed now they will it was supposed to be that they were an ideal something that everybody was supposed to try to live up to and now they're not

[@Gundyr.]

I honestly don't think the whole Steve Rogers working for hydra thing is all that bad a story line BUT, Steve earlier on was a symbol of hope back then... they could've made falcon or someone else

[@TheJohno95]

Just another funky messed-up reality story. Not a bad one, but I'll be glad when it's over. There have been too many time travel/reality is being messed with stories thrown out willy-nilly the last few years. I'll be glad when SOME kind of status quo calms down the landscape a bit. Hopefully, the cosmic cube angle will get people to quit with the death threats to the writer. Good story/bad story....People shouldn't have their lives threatened. It works itself out in the end.

[@tennoexcaliber6632]

reality didn't change.

[@Tyler_Lalonde-]

Cap is still a nazi

[@anthonypugh28]

This channel is amazing keep up the good work bro

[@Auron1Roxas2]

This was labeled wrong it should be captain nazi: Steve Rogers Vol 1.

[@dem0ninthemist]

or just trump supporter? lol

[@Auron1Roxas2]

One true Zimbo Hydra are nazis moron.

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Bajan Samurai Hydra are nazis simple as that.

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Eoin O Connell Hydra are nazis always have been.

[@yungslyme4341]

Auron1Roxas2 captain hydra

[@dwandeveaux1156]

I just want you to know I started reading this because of you. This was a GREAT story!

[@lastlaugh7512]

First! Thanks Rob! :)

[@keenan9084]

3ed :(

[@ardius9777]

This idea has potential to be multiverse series though. Imagine it, Steve Rogers: symbol of America, hero, backstabber, agent of Hydra.

[@makasher100]

Captain America is suddenly more interesting now

[@galenmarek7107]

The thing is, it's not interesting in the sense that Cap himself is interesting again. It's interesting in the sense that they essentially made him a villain.

[@TheKiroshi]

This was my reaction entirely. I've always been on the side that Cap' was very.... "pure" and just kinda 'eh'. Knowing that he's a manipulator is very interesting.

[@justinbetts4757]

I always liked the idea of a character who is pure and good and isn't beyond the ramifications that standing for your principles causes, unlike Superman who can do whatever he wants and no one really can stop him if his morals fly in the face of the law.

[@iLostMeShoes]

Very awesome!! Been waiting for this one, nicely done Rob!

[@SHAKIZZY]

Skull wants to make America great again

[@nmtengineer397]

This story arc is one of the best from Marvel or DC this year (possibly the best). Rob, I suggest you read the Captain America: Sam Wilson and Uncanny Avengers comics (if you haven't yet) because they expand on this as well, plus, they are amazing stories.

[@aquariuskudo]

NMT Engineer I haven't read the newest Sam Wilson yet but I'm guessing this is why Cap is working that one guy.

[@JoeBrando_]

Hail Allan Scott

[@keenan9084]

Hail Allen Scott

[@steffanofumo]

At least where something unexpected and it's great to see how effective Cap is without moral restrictions, and you can't be mad once you know that they had to warp Reality to make him a villain.

[@JimmyTurner]

Oh My God is here.

[@JimmyTurner]

"Hail Hydra" OMG

[@Alistair3900]

Hey Rob, have you read secret warriors? it introduced Daniel Whitehall in a big story role, and is very important for Kraken, and what happens to him

[@shadowwalker1]

Rob I am sorry but this story is wrong an need to be undone an cap need rextoring to his true self! The persom who did the story need firing!

[@cagnazzo82]

Agreed.

[@otrenigmaandy7443]

8:56 “they had their tentacles in everything” 😂😂😂 that was great

[@ManelGabriel]

I am sorry to disagree with you, but this story is absolute crap. Pretty much just like every other major arc coming out of Marvel lately. I don't like Captain America, in fact, I hate him as a character almost as much as I hate Batman and Iron Man. But regardless of how much the writers who've been in charge of Rogers for the past several years may have turned him into a right-wing sycophant, this latest stunt I find to be insulting to the essence of the character, his decade-long history, and his fans. They've managed to turn Steve Rogers into Captain Nazi-lite. And that's just not kosher.

[@Chadw1cKed]

Hey, Rob! How about a video on "Werewolf By Night/Jack Russel"? Might make a good Halloween episode.

[@Insan3Luigi]

How did cap lift Thor's hammer if he was a hydra agent....

[@pinchauvas9747]

Is it too hard to understand that he became a part of Hydra after kobik made him young again and changed his memories? Before that, he was NOT hydra.

[@1manorgy]

You made that real easy to follow. Thanks. It's kind of a problem with comics these days.

[@Michael.Miles1]

This story is crap.

[@freeworldleader8862]

Rob your the best. Keep up the good work. My lunch breaks have been full of fun and adventure

[@antwan1357]

VOTE FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA I SAID IT FIRST LOL

[@Chaosmage42]

it will depend on the ultimate resolution of how it ends more than anything else. if for example he turns back and everyone knows he was being manipulated by a cosmic cube because lets face it cosmic reality warping is kinda a thing that does happen, it will also depend on how the superhero community is after civil war because right now its kinda a mess

[@josephsalazar7877]

I don't like when you're trying to rewrite history and indoctrinate people if that is what they're trying to do. I don't agree with it, I don't like hidden agendas. Trying to socially corrupt people. Just say it like it is. If you have an agenda and say so, Don't use good characters to do bad things. Don't get me wrong I like good storytelling just don't mess with the core of a character.

[@SolarTwinLunarKing]

Love when you show your glee. You're so awesome!!!

[@dem0ninthemist]

lol at the red skull saying "make America great again". kinda remains me of another arrogant hitler style character

[@georgebelmonte8522]

dem0ninthemist I wish comics could not be political

[@dem0ninthemist]

George Belmonte in all fairness, hydra is a nazi organization. Everything they do relies on using fear and supremacy of some kind to motive you to action. It only sounds so similar because (being completely objective) that's what is being done right now

[@professorthree]

LOL (being completely objective) here's my personal opinion based on bad information KZbin comment debate skills FTW.

[@n1tr01nc]

yeah killary clinton.

[@quoththeraven4341]

I don't know if you were already aware, but Daniel Whitehall was a part of the comics before he was in Agents of SHIELD. Daniel Whitehall was the real name of Kraken, a guy who trained recruits for Hydra before being taken down in the Secret Warriors comic during the Dark Reign era of Marvel comics.

[@erikponciano]

hahhaha. Even Captain America's been feminized. He's father is a worthless Bum now, that's how you start off every contemporary story, a bad father and a loving mother BS, And then there's a VERY POWERFUL Cosmic cube who is an innocent little Girl. How many incredibly powerful woman now in Marvel can alter the Universe? This is not Good story ComicsExplained, this is just pandering to a certain demographic.

[@erikponciano]

Phatmlg pro-man an alcoholic dad is one thing, Matt Murdock has one. A feminist dad is a not only a Drunk, he also have to be a useless bum, He has to beaten up by a woman. He has to be abandoned by the good mother. Oh yeah, and most importantly, he have to beat up on his WIFE to drive the point home, in case anybody else thinks he's not so bad.

[@TechnicolorGhosts]

erikponciano most bad drunks with families usually abuse a member of their family. not a fact but it probably has some truth to it.

[@erikponciano]

yeah, your dismissing drunk mothers. And drunk mothers abuse their family members more. check the stats. Actually mothers abuse family members even if their not drunk.

[@TechnicolorGhosts]

erikponciano it says men are more likely to perpitate abuse

[@TechnicolorGhosts]

erikponciano this isn't about Steve being abused it's about his mom being abused. Women kill more kids but steve's mom isn't abusive but it's more or less law in fiction that if you have a drunk father either you or your mom is getting abused. And if your going to disregard facts you provided (the first link) just because it disproves your point then boy are you kinda a moron.

[@bananaminionz]

Uhh Captain America is not hydra. Red Skull implanted memories into Steve that made him think that he was part of Hydra. He was not cloned, brainwashed or mind controlled.

[@BlueDavrial]

I'm sorry Rob, I don't care what they did good, but I *cant* like this run. And I cant watch this video. Because it doesnt matter what good the series did later on, it had one of the worst first issues of all time and, reasons or not, they crossed a line that should never have been crossed. *Never make Cap Hydra* . Evil? Sure. But *never* Hydra.

[@nobo1982]

hey man, love the chanel. thanks for all your hard work.

[@marcosorduno9203]

red skull=trump lets make america great again

[@marcosorduno9203]

and sheeps follow lol

[@roylogan2131]

Marcos Orduno yes the waiter who is a Hillary supporter made the Red Skull sound like Trump. He could have done that with Hillary as well. In fact he should have, especially since she is very evil corrupt and has payed to have people killed.

[@marcosorduno9203]

I never say I like Clinton if fact I hate them both I also hate people who let themselves get sweet talk like trump supporter they follow him no matter how much he backs on his word

[@roylogan2131]

Marcos Orduno I never said you supported Clinton. I was only pointing out that Hillary is far worse than Trump. Trump Hasn't backed out of nothing, yet. I hope he doesn't, I like what he had to say.

[@lorddraco1359]

@@marcosorduno9203 fuck you bitch

[@trewilliams383]

Rob, as someone who has followed Marvel for quite some time, I find your analysis and relation of these stories to the actual history that inspired them to be amazing. I also appreciate the fact that you allow people to draw their own conclusions. I think Hydra Cap makes sense given the real life history of things like Operation Paperclip. I think its Marvel trying to allude that sometimes the paragons we come to love can have ulterior motives or dark sides we just don't see until its too late. The sweeping changes of several heroes is something i feel is a good thing. Comics has been such a singular realm as far as audience for a very long time. And print comics are a dwindling industry. Blaming the writers for trying to include people who wouldn't necessarily have been reaching out to read these comics is like asking for Marvel to just die. Think about in these terms: if you're in danger, does the race or sex of the person helping you out of danger really matter? I think its awesome what's being done. Its kinda art reflecting life.

[@redoptics2013]

how can cap be hydra same bs as doc ock as spider-man, love marvel but don't do this crap, we need hero's in a wold of pain, not this crap

[@stephenjuelztogo6828]

thanks for explaining that Rob, back at it again with another banger 💥

[@martinlimonjr]

I have Captain America: Steve Rogers (Hail Hydra), through my local comic shop. It's interesting, but I've been pleasantly surprised in picking up this series.

[@FoScoJo]

When all of this was going down, I was so hoping that it would work out that the comic story was going to tie into the "Agents of SHIELD" story about Aida and the Framework. There was also the parallels between the new Steve Rogers background with the abusive father and Fitz's abusive father. There were several touchpoints between these stories, like Whitehall as you pointed out.

[@awashington8447]

the origional story arc of CW2 has gained alot of negative feedback. However, the missing piece was the Steve Rogers Hydra element, which takes the story to another level. NOW it's a great story, with the glue being CA that holds everything together. Can't wait for all of the story to come out

[@MrPingn]

I think it is exciting and interesting. I had a similar "Oh no! This is gonna be bad." feeling. But not bad as in a bad story. I enjoy alter history stories of all kinda. What if's and such. Like Man in the High Castle. What will the good people do to change things back to the good we know? Will things return to good? Will Cap find his way to good? Will the other heroes stop Hydra? It's fun.

[@WolfWarner718]

Capt America storyline is awesome!!! Great Job

[@andokomando]

Rob this was freakin dope man!!!