Steve Wiebe Returns To Help Fight Billy Mitchell!

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[@karljobst]

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[@maker0824]

teamwiebe

[@byrontheusurper6505]

An absolute legend

[@joshredman3054]

I agree, sir 😊

[@bmwg35]

Thank you, I was getting the shakes from a lack of Billy Mitchell content, its all just so funny, keep it up bro.

[@Dommifax]

A real Basketball

[@SteveDice21]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate that Billy is trying to legally prove that he got the DK world record by saying there's no evidence of him getting the DK world record?

[@rahmspinat]

There's a Schrödinger joke in there

[@arcturus8329]

​@@rahmspinator is there?

[@imaginekudryavka9485]

@@arcturus8329I love you

[@MrTopherdrew]

​@@imaginekudryavka9485do you tho???

[@balaamsass5540]

@@rahmspinat All BM DK footage automatically turns MAME as soon as it is played in a VCR. The conspiracy against BM lies with the VCR manufacturers who probably manufactured ALL VCRs made in the 90s and the 00s with DK MAME masking technology. OK, I traveled a long, long road for that bad joke,

[@stephaniegifford5932]

"He was even a basketball" I was NOT expecting that line, and now my chest hurts from laughing, you absolute legend, you.

[@brandonrumann3931]

😂😂😂

[@whocares9033]

I gotta know wtf was going on in that interview lol

[@lauriechan1426]

Same here 😂 was drinking water and did a spit take

[@galonski64]

Same, aside was making my lunch, thought it was a typo, till the lady said it too, and laugh I shock

[@volvo09]

That was too funny 😂

[@dinozulic1624]

Most people struggle to become a basketball and here we have this guy, who is both a basketball, a former world record holder AND a math teacher. What a legend.

[@dieSpinnt]

An absolute Legend!

[@jaybay5538]

Am i getting old? What does "become a basketball" mean?

[@lillasagna5487]

​@@jaybay5538I think she accidentally mis-spoke and meant to say "a basketball player"

[@mikemccann978]

He and that kid in Final Fantasy X that wants to be a Blitzball when he grows up.

[@tafua_a]

I mean, who wouldn't aspire to be a basketball? Basketballs don't hold grudges!

[@SunnyBoi.]

I'm a student from the high school that Steve Wiebe teaches at, and after seeing this video, my respect for him has skyrocketed. So grateful to have a legend as a teacher 🙏

[@anamnesis4406]

You’re lucky! He’s a legend!

[@theweakestlink2278]

The only basketball to ever become a school teacher. Legendary!

[@coolguyhino92]

separate from the topic, _MASSIVE_ respect to him for not only realizing that Silly was manipulating him, but that he FULLY understands what proper 'fair use' is, AND threw it in Silly's face. Absolute legend

[@Hotsaucebauce3943]

Silly Mitchell 😋

[@bear.5739]

@@Hotsaucebauce3943 *Bitchell

[@i_like_lemons]

@@Hotsaucebauce3943 Silly Bitchell*

[@chickenwarriorr]

​@@Hotsaucebauce3943Silly Bitchell

[@dimitri7615]

⁠@@Hotsaucebauce3943Billy Bitchell 😡

[@nothingtoseehere93]

A father, a musician, a basketball. What a legend.

[@YTesting]

Balanced, as all things should be.

[@AO-bl7cc]

I think a lot of fathers who are musicians can relate to that.

[@joeewert4503]

He also is a calculus teacher! Got to interview him for a high school project. Great guy. Really smart. I hope he doesnt get too tangled up in the drama

[@Typheus]

absolute legend*

[@MBeeching]

Some might say... a slam dunk? 😄

[@simpson6700]

it's amazing how billy can turn his most loyal fans against him, just by talking with them directly.

[@tobiasha93]

I was surprised about that. The second guy seemed a bit salty like the type of guy "that doesn't have an opinion" but the first one seemed quite genuine. Surprising they really were only uninformed and didn't defend a verified cheater knowingly.

[@ChubbsterBrown]

I have nothing but respect for Vanburen and Maris for their behaviour. In a world where people feeling slightly threatened will hide behind fraudulent copyright suits and often win, it warms my heart to see the men act like civil adults. And I’m sure there was some looming threat of Mitchel hit those two with more lawsuits if they chose the high road. Good work gentlemen. And good on you Karl for also treating them with respect.

[@executioner_ecgbert884]

I went and subbed to his channel after this video. Obviously, I don't know for sure, but he seems like a decent guy

[@UltiNegative]

You showed more respect to Vanburen in 60 seconds than Billy showed him in their entire relationship.

[@smalism]

Well deserved, Vanburen seems like a cool guy who genuinely got caught in billys lies. Honestly surprised why so many people actually went out of their way to harrass him. Vanburen is really strong for admitting he's wrong, and that deserve respect

[@AlvinKazu]

@@smalismThe problem is, many people do not realize the ways of grandiose people who have narcissistic and pathological lying tendencies. I used to be attracted to people who were like that because I have a mother like that, but I realize now with these people and can spot people who want to be "The center of attention, the star of the show, and the community savior. While not everyone is the same, and sometimes this can be the case with people and being grandiose and talktive/wanting-attention, people need to watch and notice suble instances of abuse,etc. It's hard ot know without actually having knowledge on the subject though. For some, they want attention because they were never given it. For me, I always loved talking, because I had parents who never listened to me. They were busy always trying to be right and be heard, always talking over me/each-other. So many people get caught up and believe others are "telling the truth." Whenever I engage in conversations, I try to do so in good faith, but so many people are trolling, want to be right, don't care, or have an agenda so it's hard to know what you're dealing with. WITh Bitchell, he only cares about using others to further himself. He didn't care about the other guy, and the reason is that this Vanburen guy is probably "Star Struck." OMG BITCHELL IS TALKING TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!????????????? It's like Michael Jordan talking to an NBA fan, the fan is going to be star struck and would do anything MJ asks.

[@louieberg2942]

@@smalism It would be a good showing of this community to go over there and tell him that. Show that there's more positivity than bilge in this community.

[@Dusty338]

I recently discovered Vanburen and have been really enjoying his channel. He makes some great content.

[@polocatfan]

​@@smalismprobably because Billy drove a guy to suicide. it's kinda... completely indefensible to defend that.

[@danielcarver936]

Steve Wiebe is such a legend that he doesn't play Donkey Kong anymore. He just stares the screen down until it gives him the score he wants.

[@FluffBear01]

He's a wizard.

[@vissova]

Truly the Chuck Norris of videogames.

[@christopherhammond5142]

Steve Wiebe does what Billy Mitchwon't. It sounded way cooler in my mind. Sorry.

[@Gold_Gamer_100]

​@@christopherhammond5142I personally found it funny

[@1000shadowmario]

​@@christopherhammond5142 That sounded pretty cool to me.

[@FixTechStuff]

Billy Mitchell is so cool and awesome that he was on MTV and didn't even know or watch it! So honest and humble, meticulously stepping over any devious traps set for him and coming out unscathed. He's truly an inspiration to us all. I'm never going to play a game legitimately ever again!

[@lokizeme7342]

😂✌️❤️

[@BrianHalePhoto]

Don't forget, he's also so smart that he knows it's fake without even having to see it!

[@Incense3]

He walked away from an awesome explosion and didn’t even look back!

[@morgantaylor84]

Not gunna lie, you had me in the first half just like Billy Mitchell. Truly an inspiration.

[@nooneofnote8453]

I’m sure his mother is very proud

[@Deadpok3]

Steve Wiebe came back like the Undertaker to take down Billy

[@Platinumsniper]

Big respect to Van buran for understanding fair use and defending Karl against Billy. And good on both for admitting they are wrong, it takes big balls to admit it.

[@jamesknapp64]

Massive respect and props

[@eriklarson9137]

So you both subbed his channel right?

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Van Buren redemption arc????

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

@@eriklarson9137what is ur point

[@theblocksays]

Glad VB figured out pretty quick Billy is an asshole (glorified hot sauce peddler) trying to coach/groom him into another one of his professional white knight/cronies.

[@grandmaster101587458]

"And in the other corner, we have Billy Mitchell." *dead silence, not even a single tumbleweed passes across the screen* This part absolutely killed me, what a legendary introduction.

[@EWOODJ]

Tumbleweeds don’t even spit in his direction.

[@craigvandenberg7554]

I saw it coming and it still made me howl

[@CidZero]

I expected crickets. 😂

[@revolverjesus98]

​@@EWOODJMostly because they can't, but if they could, you bet they wouldn't.

[@grandmaster101587458]

@@CidZero crickets dare not chirp in front of him for fear of being sued for defamation

[@jacenstein667]

this is crazy, steve wiebe was my math teacher about 6 years ago in high school. he showed us the movie in class, had a exclusive wreck it ralph arcade machine he would let us play on, and was just all around a great guy. I never learned so much in a algebra class until I had him. so sad to see this billy guy lie his way to the top, shout-out to my guy steve for coming out and making things right. he’s always been such a humble guy, this greedy as combo of billy and ed deserve whatever is coming to them

[@chrisreynolds35]

He was my teacher too, such a cool guy!

[@matsudabanana9161]

The way Karl says "This greedy piece of shit." Is so good. 5/7 would watch again. 19:30

[@Jorge_Cuevas]

It cracked me up for sure!

[@pathutchison7688]

As someone who never lived up to his dream of being a football, I have a lot of respect for this guy.

[@austinclements8010]

you aren't dead yet- theres still time to be a nerf football if you work hard enough

[@robertbeisert3315]

When I grow up, I wanna be a blitzball!

[@andreasvedeler80]

I used to be a football when I was younger and more limber but really, you think it's going to be so much fun and then you're just getting kicked around all the time. I lost all my teeth, I had a shoe stuck up my colon for years I didn't know about

[@BullShitTron]

imagine living your entire life just to be yeeted at a random slime by some freak with a headband. SMH my head. @@robertbeisert3315

[@Tootbook]

And a fine one you will be, son.@@robertbeisert3315

[@hypertensionfilms5439]

An engineer, a musician, AND a basketball? This man is the Jonny Kim of the nerd world. A Renaissance man.

[@Robeebert]

A Renaissance basketball

[@stoffel5423]

Truly a being that transcends us ordinary people.. o.O

[@Olebull93]

I allways wanted to be a basketball 😢

[@stoffel5423]

@@Olebull93 *:Pat, pat:* There, there.. Some things are just not to be.

[@nickcarroll8565]

They told him he could be anything he wanted when he grew up, so he became a basketball.

[@twodogsandstuff]

Never knew this Vanburen guy or his channel before this drama, but love seeing people able to grow like that. Props and respect to him.

[@combogalis]

It's particularly impressive considering this came after a bunch of people he disagreed with dogpiled him in his comments. In those situations, it's so easy to think "these people are being jerks; this just proves I'm on the right side" so to instead admit he was wrong is really admirable.

[@antonymilne1346]

Yeah it's not easy to admit when someone's played you because it can make you feel like an idiot, but no, these people are manipulative, they got you because that's what they do. So props to him for him being able to stand up and say "I was wrong, I was tricked, I'm sorry and I wanna settle this amicably" is deeply respectable. Mad props to him

[@MatthewJellyTurtle]

Whenever this story develops I always think. If Billy Mitchell put in as much effort into playing donkey kong, as he does trying to lie. He'd probably have a legitimate world record.

[@thefonzkiss]

And as much effort as he does dying his beard.

[@eyesofnova]

I emailed Steve Wiebe once saying I appreciated how he approached everything in the King of Kong. I never expected him to get back to me, but he did and expressed his gratitude. Steve Wiebe is a good human and someone I generally respect

[@firenado14]

i once emailed him and he didn’t change my math grade

[@theothercastlepodcast]

He was a basketball

[@ItsDangerousGoAlone]

​@@firenado14he was busy being a basketball dude, is a hard job

[@alittlebitgone]

I once emailed him to ask him to start pronouncing his last name wildly incorrectly, he did it, no complaints.

[@jasonscott4525]

I randomly pm’d Steve on twitch in May 2020 when he was back streaming dk asking him his stream times so I could watch and he messaged me back right away letting me know his planned schedule for the summer. I was able to see him set his all time high score.

[@Go0dcat]

Truly a basketball of all time. What a legend.

[@IggyVRam]

Steve is a basketball, and a BOAT, and a legend.

[@JasonHenderson]

Out of all the basketballs he is one of them

[@apaxtoa]

The next documentary will be "The story of a basketball and a basket case"

[@madzpanda]

The best thing about a basketball is it always bounces back. I respect my donkey Kong king basketball.

[@TheUnapologeticGeek]

It’s just incredible how long this has been going on. If there are any genuine Billy Mitchell defenders out there, I don’t know what they can cling to anymore. It’s getting sad and desperate.

[@AnonimatosTM]

I'm guessing they are either misled, or are people who use the same tactics as him. After all he uses scare tactics against everyone, if people start to fight back and actually win, it might encourage others to fight them as well.

[@apk4381]

Its the same psychology as the people who got booster after booster of the "safe and effective" coof vaccines. It's called psychosis.

[@plasticbudgie]

He is the GOAT.

[@PAS2010D]

Honestly, I defended him in the beginning. Steve is an amazing human and when I watched the documentary I knew Billy was a dickhead but I wanted to believe that he couldn't be that much of a dickhead without the skill to back it up. It would just be too sad and pathetic and I like to see the best in people. It made me a good cop but apparently a shitty detective.

[@OldAussieAds]

The only thing I can see from Billy Mitchell's point of view is this: 1) He's a ludicrously gifted classic video game player. 2) Despite that, he's also been outclassed by others in recent times. 3) He's had so much of his identity wrapped up in being the top Donkey Kong player that he was willing to cheat to keep it going. 4) He didn't expect the world at large to care enough about long forgotten video games to think they'd a) Feel the need to catch him out (thanks in no small part to the King of Kong documentary) and b) Once they have caught him out, relentlessly attempt to expose him. 5) Now that he realises the world hasn't bought his lies, he probably feels like he's too far gone to admit it now. There would have been a point where he could have admitted he was deceitful, but he chose to double down on the lies instead. I'm positive if he could go back in time, he wouldn't have cheated, or at least wouldn't have lied when caught. None of the cheating changes point 1. His skills at Donkey Kong and Pac-Mac far surpass most of the world. If he graciously let Steve Wiebe win, he would have been applauded for passing on the torch, and his Twin Galaxy entourage would have continued to respect him. But he's tainted his reputation and would now be living a very stressful existence. I feel for him in some strange way. It's not like he's killed someone. He's just cheated at a video game contest. But until he admits that, the world's not going to let him move on.

[@Izthefaithful]

Wow those two guys seemed super humble to admit they were wrong and it makes me think of how manipulative Billy is. Glad it’s all working out

[@PinBiohazard]

Steve Wiebe is so legendary he IS the Basketball 🏀

[@El_IF_B_2]

was*

[@tjenadonn6158]

"I am the danger" - Walter White "I am the table." - James Hetfield "I am the basketball." - Steve Wiebe Together they fight crime.

[@celzolsen8988]

@@tjenadonn6158 "I am the liquor" - Jim Lahey

[@dangerotterisrea]

​@@celzolsen8988 sadly missed

[@hansgretl1787]

Like Mike Wazowski?

[@aaronloiselle3651]

I was NOT expecting this to start with VanBuren realizing he was wrong to support Billy. Very good on him, especially on this platform. You rarely see people owning up to their mistakes online, very often.

[@Rezplz]

It's a grift

[@jellywillreturn]

If only he showed that same support to his lesbian daughter instead of disowning her.

[@norrecvizharan1177]

Sounds like someone's got an absolutely negative outlook on humanity, considerin how that's not always the case 'n stuff.@@Rezplz

[@brok3lectricdreams916]

@@jellywillreturn This is news to me, but then again, I never watched his videos.

[@jellywillreturn]

@@brok3lectricdreams916 People had been alleging as much in the comments of his videos, and while I was never able to find hard proof of him saying so, a Tweet he made in 2021 linked to a now-deleted video, in which one of the replies mentioning him making a difficult choice on behalf of his faith, leading me to believe the video was where he'd announced the disowning, which he is now trying to distance himself from.

[@WeldingQueen]

Admitting your wrong is a hard thing and shows you a lot about a person. Bc no matter who tf you are everyone is wrong or makes the wrong decision or choices( like supporting someone) at times in their life. And it definitely happens multiple times in life. And it's the ppl that can't admit that that are weak. It takes a strong secure person to admit they are wrong.

[@chadd990]

Good on you for calling out people in your audience who were toxic to other people. I wish more content creators would tell their audience to cut it tf out, sometimes.

[@TheInhumanBeatdown]

Some do and unfortunately most the time, the Audience doesn't care. I literally watched in real time as a creator had a falling out with a partner and explained his reasons and basically said don't go after him don't do anything I don't want that and the comments were filled with people making jokes about ignoring what he said and Harassing the other party anyways.

[@mariapou9918]

​@@TheInhumanBeatdownWhen you hang your dirty laundry out in public you should expect people to have their own opinions about it. When you are a public figure, especially a KZbin content creator, of course your content is going to generate responses.

[@TheInhumanBeatdown]

@@mariapou9918 You confuse Opinions with Decency. An opinion is disliking someone for some reason, Decency is knowing something is bad and not sending Death threats to the person on behalf of another who specifically asked you not to do that.

[@mariapou9918]

@@TheInhumanBeatdown *No* That's harassment. I don't condone death threats, I said opinions and jokes. Don't want to hear my opinion or jokes about a topic you made public? Then don't make it public.

[@RCG3Games]

The ones who do it don't care. Those of us who would listen and try to bring respect to Karl's name don't have to be told not to be a numb-nut lol. But the few times I have went to another channel and tore them a new one (never from a Karl video), was because they were so disgusting I didn't care. (Never threats or anything just making my points known)

[@bendance4622]

Fuck me Karl I almost spit my drink out on "he was a basketball", you're an absolute legend keep up the good work!!

[@j.21]

could've added '.' after 'me' lol

[@sparkist95]

​@@j.21nothing wrong with asking Karl to do him

[@mistermonologue2442]

Lmao! I thought he misspoke until the clip of the lady then busted a gut

[@sparky4878]

@@j.21the power of punctuation.

[@SecondBestArtMuseum]

I had no context when I saw your comment, and just hearing it was beautiful.

[@firstnamelastname2552]

It's over for Billy now. There is no way out of this. And I'm so glad that Steve Wiebe gets to be part of it.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

I honestly think this will only be over when Mitchel is out of money.

[@blokesfireup]

It's never over for a pathological liar. The line between truth and fiction is woven in their brains on a day to day basis to fit the desired narrative. You will never, ever get any acknowledgement. You will just get new lies and studious ignorance to any previous assertions. It's a batshit thing to witness. Part of their success is hugely forged on just how little those who are at best, filthy casual liars know about the way they operate.

[@RisingRevengeance]

​@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoonWhere does he even get his money from? Faking an old record cant bring in much and I really dont think he has the skill to work *anywhere*

[@Fender178]

@@RisingRevengeance He makes money from selling Hot Sauce on top of family owned restaurants called Rickey's in Hollywood and Pembroke Pines Florida which were started by his mother and Father in 1955.

[@Fender178]

@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Well in the case of Twin Galaxies and Karl here it will be done once Billy's case is dismissed with prejudice which means he can't file any more lawsuits for the things he is suing for with those parties. However he could try and sue Steve Wiebe though.

[@Fragger-1]

"He was a basketball" is legendary. Ever since Karl and EZScape watched King of Kong on stream, that's been the first thing I think of when I see Steve Wiebe

[@Zichqec]

I love that "He was a basketball" is the most replayed part of this video 😂top quality

[@TonyKazoku]

Credits to vanburen for accepting he was wrong, and I'm sorry for him that he was misled so bad by Mitchell. He looked genuinely sad and betrayed in that video he made and I hope he'll do better in the future

[@ncf1]

well said

[@TheBulletTrain]

100%. Also super refreshing to hear someone understand fair use while being on the side who's content was used for fair use. Never heard of Vanburen outside of Carls vid, but now I wanna go check his stuff out.

[@OctoberRaven]

and remember there was no cure for being a basketball at that time. he recovered without medical care. legend.

[@-games5524]

Its HUGE for people to acknowledge and accept they are/were wrong with something they had such a strong passion for. Absolutely nothing but respect for these men for coming out and admitting their faults, and not wanting to repeat the same mistake. Good on them!!! 👍

[@oneandonlyjaybee]

Anyone else been binge watching this epic dual over all the videos? Im hooked on this story, but its literally crazy. Theres all these people going to all these lengths over an arcade gaming machine.

[@Burl_Hurlbutt]

"He was even a basketball" Truly poetic. Steve Wiebe, leader of men.

[@Lost-bc2rz]

Steven Wiebe suddenly coming back and exposing his rival is truly one of the best moments in the Billy Mitchell saga!

[@mage1439]

He's like an old warrior who just wanted to retire in peace but had to take his sword down from the wall for one last battle.

[@ladiesmannumerouno]

@@mage1439😂 spoken like a True Mage 🧙‍♂️

[@pearljaime2]

He also became a basketball

[@piplup10203854]

I am so glad to see Van buran not only listen to the feedback, seek out the answers and then make a legit acknowledgement to say he was wrong and then move forward. That's not an easy thing to do and also kudos to you for reaching out to them and having those discussions and then updating the information and pointing out where you were wrong.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

For those old enough to remember 2006, this is one of the documentaries that made Netflix streaming on Xbox 360 (which is wear streaming originated) successful. For months this was the #1 streamed documentary on the service. I remember watching it at least three times it was so good.

[@scottsetzke7967]

Thats how I saw it

[@hateWinVista]

After the video went up for less than 2 hours, the Wikipedia page for Steve Wiebe has been edited to include "Video game high score and speed running expert Karl Jobst has called him one of the greatest video game players of all time". What an absolute legend.

[@daveyjones7391]

But does it list him as a basketball.

[@rebornreaper194]

​@@daveyjones7391This is what I'd like to know as well.

[@OriginAtrocity]

@@daveyjones7391 Sadly, it lists him as a basketball player. An egregious error, but I suppose we can let it slide in light of his gaming accomplishments. After all, Wikipedia's never 100% accurate, right?

[@StefanReich]

"Video game high score and speed running KZbinr Karl Jobst" - what an elegant wording it is too

[@damsen978]

But we can correct it. Anyone can. @@OriginAtrocity

[@cytofusion6072]

This man grew up to be a basketball; he showed us all that you can be anything you put your mind to. It reminds me of when I was a child playing Final Fantasy X and that little kid in the game says “When I grow up I want to be a Blitzball!” And I just laughed and thought “you silly kid, dream of something more realistic.” Yet here I am today, staring at a man who became a Basketball, thinking back on that kid that maybe, just maybe, he could have done it. Truly profound stuff.

[@OrgusDin]

I mean, he could have, if he were Steve Wiebe.

[@william4996]

As a kid I wanted to be a motorcycle. I wish I had someone as brave and wonderful as our hero wiebe to prove becoming an inanimate object is possible if you set your goals and strive for greatness!

[@helioselexandros]

Its never to late to follow your dreams. Go get em kid!

[@Glen0cide]

This Comment wins the internet today

[@SeppelSquirrel]

Simpsons did it first! "My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball. But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!"

[@MrOldskoolgamez]

“He was a basketball” 🏀 is my new favorite quote.

[@SiriusPP]

You could say, Steve bounced back into action. A true basketball

[@BonesAlexander]

I think as the younger generation of gamers we need to stick behind and support these older legends like Steve and dethrone pretenders like Billy.

[@JRDad]

Younger generations haven’t been around long enough to fuck up yet. Chill with the holier than though attitude.

[@stoffel5423]

@@JRDad Pretty sure that comment was meant to be satirical.

[@wwasdwtfcantmove]

This is unironically my favorite legal drama of all time xD It's almost comical how much of a cartoonish villain Billy is, he's just so easy to despise. I honestly cannot wait for the full evidence blowout when the case is over, I can't even imagine how much you're holdin back, Karl. Great job as always you ABSOLUTE LEGEND!

[@tjenadonn6158]

It's like a Phoenix Wright case happening IRL. I'm just waiting for his freakout scene where whatever that animal is on his head gets spooked and takes flight.

[@jdmjesus6103]

Well said. Anyone that dishonest is easy to dislike. I think whether people realise it or not, you can read his body language and mannerisms and innately tell that he's a liar. I'm sure that's part of why it's easy.

[@zombeef3074]

He’s such a cartoonish villain he literally got memed in a cartoon

[@Garviel-Loken]

Billy Mitchell is almost a real-life Dick Dastardly, just less competent.

[@ConsoleCombat]

@@tjenadonn6158OBJECTION!

[@Strange_Armour]

I'm glad to see Steve getting on with his life, unlike Billy who clings to a lie like a comfort blanket.

[@roastghost901]

I vaguely recall watching some kind of documentary on this fellow when I was a kid. Watching him continue his shenanigans when I'm 30 was not something I imagined happening.

[@DickiMoltisanti]

He’s the greatest gamer ever. Ever.

[@acat2383]

I really hope Karl keeps making investigative documentaries for the next 50 years. He is so entertaining and has integrity.

[@Dedicatedtolivinginthepast]

If he did keep going for that long, Half of his output would still be about Billy lol

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

@@Dedicatedtolivinginthepastdamn 🤣

[@OneColdMonkey]

The thing that's going to be most frustrating at the end of the day for me is that Billy will never cop to it. He'll never give it up and admit he's been caught. He's gonna lose and continue insisting he's the real victim all the way to his grave, because that's what people like him do.

[@LordZaayl]

At this point he has hinged his entire public identity on this, he's in too deep and past the point of forgiveness, if he were to admit fault he would still be a laughingstock, just a laughingstock without any sycophants. Because he has fully earned this by behaving this way, he stands to gain nothing by turning it around (though he does stand to lose things if he keeps digging the hole deeper...) The only way Billy comes out on top is really right when he got accused of cheating and choosing to handle it any other way (Including just ignoring it and letting twin galaxies remove his record, nobody but a few enthusiasts would ever remember him.)

[@CSHummer]

More than likely. He may also just start bawling his eyes out and trying to victimize himself for more sympathy. But he will never just admit he's an ass.

[@bald_engineer]

@@dnukeableA couple of years ago he would stream DK on Twitch. His chat was super locked down. Imagine that. Either he stopped or Twitch finally listened to the “don’t recommend this” clicks.

[@lo1bo2]

Well, Lance Armstrong admitted to cheating in cycling, and Pete Rose admitted to betting on baseball, so maybe there's hope for Billy Mitchell? Probably not.

[@DrEnzyme]

This is what a sociopath and pathological liar looks like. It's important to realize people like this exist, because many of them do much worse than cheat at video games.

[@CAepicreviews]

Props for being able to admit wrongs, especially on a big stage. And you all realized wrongs too, which I really like.

[@joshuaharris540]

I swear I'm only about a minute and 30 seconds into this video, and it's already hilarious and amazing. I swear this entire intro was crafted knowing Billy's ego would force him to watch this and I can only imagine the emotions Billy went through while watching it.

[@HappyMealBieber]

Billy is the type of guy that googles his name daily . You know he does it for hours possibly,. imagine a 50 year old man hovering over a keyboard googling and searching for pages with his name. Since 2018. thats like 5 years now.

[@Pigness7]

Big ups on van buren, we live in a world where when people get proven wrong they double down on their ignorance and its a breath of fresh air to see people admit they're wrong and change for the better.

[@animalhouse8849]

He has been doubling down for many years lol. But yeah, I'm glad he got there eventually.

[@lakewoodln1060]

​@@animalhouse8849Doesn't hurt to be happy for people every once in a while. People are capable of change, and we all love to see someone change for the better.

[@EgoChip]

It just goes to show you can't trust a single person in this world.

[@oz_jones]

He also understands fair use, not many do

[@animalhouse8849]

@@lakewoodln1060 True, but there's a difference when you spread misinformation and lay accusations that negatively affect people's lives. I'm not so quick to forgive when people do things like that.

[@tzvikrasner6073]

Good on Vanburen and Maris for having civil conversations and coming around to the truth instead of digging in. KZbin needs more people like that.

[@siskavard]

Didn't know Steve Weibe was also a basketball, this man is full of surprises

[@caseydent3199]

I absolutely love this doco mate, really happy you're giving it the recognition it deserves, and Steve Wiebe the recognition he deserves - great content as always Karl!

[@viralgayguy]

I think one of the most valuable traits as a person is being open-minded and being able to swallow when you were wrong or misled. Mad respect to VanBuren. It’s so, so easy to dig your heels in as a defense mechanism-it hurts to admit that you got tricked or your brain tricked itself. So many props to him for sticking to his principles.

[@BeowulfNorther]

It's SO rare these days. Flat earthers, climate deniers, anti vax cultists, conspiracy nutjobs attempting a coup, people can get so removed from facts and evidence but violently attack anyone who presents it to them.. even just the petty tribalism of opinions or fandoms, people take it super personally when someone corrects them or insults their favorite thing like it insults them personally haha So yeah, in this day and age seeing a dude take stock, realize he was misled and admit he was wrong publicly, that shows more scruples, integrity and balls than anything billy has ever done.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

It still blows my mind every time that there turns out to be EVEN MORE to this insane story. I've been following it ever since the day that the King of Kong DVD came out.

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

It is crazy how a saga like this surrounds something as silly as a Donkey Kong speedrun

[@dieSpinnt]

@@rumplstiltztinkerstein Yeah ... and elderly men that disproportionally grew their ego and beards, but completely had a stand-still with their social skills, fixed at the IQ-level of a 1980ies arcade machine payment (a quarter ... which translates to that of an angry toddler). „Heute back ich, morgen brau ich, übermorgen hol ich der Königin ihr Kind", have a good one ... besides the Kong-Drama, hehehe:)

[@MantequillaMe]

@@dieSpinnt funny

[@anamnesis4406]

This insight about “bad actor” vs “nice person being manipulated by a conman” is valuable. ❤

[@CalliphoriBae]

A musician, athlete, teacher, and gamer? Steve is the TRUE human element.

[@hamizannaruto]

It's insane how much achievement he has, and still look a humble human.

[@ninjafrog6966]

he was also a basketball, don’t forget that

[@Rebellions]

​@@ninjafrog6966The crucial element

[@Fallub]

Big credit to Van Buren - he really seems like a nice guy. Thank you for the great video Karl.

[@nicocchi]

Not just that, but also having the integrity to stand up to Silly Bitchell and say to his face that "that's not how that works". I mean, if he wrongfully claimed Karl's video surely it would damage his reputation further like some certain other clown filing lawsuits has demonstrated, but still, credit where it's due

[@GamingwithMahv1]

This man could have been a Basketball, but chose to be the hero we needed! What a legend.

[@xWhackoJacko]

I think what makes all of this so interesting is that its a classic tale: pure Good vs. pure Evil. It's Tolkien-esque, in a way. We're still behind you Steve, 100%!

[@MrPooPooJohn]

Karl, you’re the best. This entire Billy Mitchell saga has been one of the most interesting and entertaining things I’ve ever seen. Keep up the great work!

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Despite all the stuff Steve is good at, being a basketball is such a life achievement that only a true legend can make it happen.

[@BAM5636]

Very true. One can't just learn to be a basketball, you have to be born with it. Now that is some generational talent.

[@coryshannon3815]

"Basketballs don't hold grudges"- Batista

[@norrecvizharan1177]

Being tightly held by athletic men and repeatedly bounced up and down until a goal is made that makes them cry out with joy, hmmmm......

[@xynester]

It takes true talent to become a basketball

[@McDuffington]

I knew something was coming, after building up Steve that much, but just silence while showing Billy was better than what I expected

[@tjenadonn6158]

"He's just sitting there, scumbaggily!"

[@Adon4K]

2:04 - 2:16 That 10 seconds of nothing but white noise with a blank faced Billy Mitchel was comedy GOLD! 😂😂

[@ZeldaxLegacy]

"turnabout is fair play". I love the shade being thrown here

[@JasonPeterPresents]

I actually laughed out loud when you said he was a basketball. That line has driven me nuts in that movie for years.

[@NautilusGuitars]

Ok, I have to know. What's the story there? Did she misspeak? Was it an editing error? I'm so confused lol

[@jevonp]

One of the other but I do vaguely remember that when I watched the movie as a kid lmao 😂

[@Tdoctortree]

I hope Karl makes a billy Mitchell playlist. So we can binge all this content uninterrupted one day

[@MuchWhittering]

You know you can just make one yourself, right? I did ages ago.

[@santiagobeitia4473]

I love how everyone in this tale looks exactly as I would expect them to look

[@lymb3914]

Dwayne is also a significant figure in a really good documentary (if you discount the presence of pre-disgraced Billy himself) called "Man Vs. Snake," and, at one point, there's a discrepancy in the time he completed his world-record attempt run; it was way too fast compared to previous attempts, so they ordered him to send the board in for analysis, which he did. For the record, they found an issue in the board itself that wouldn't be possible to engineer, exonerating him. Then again, he cooperated because he knew he had nothing to hide. After all, why lie again and again and again and again when you can just tell the one truth and be done with it? Right, Billy? _Right?_

[@glarynth]

Billy's talent for uniting people against him continues unabated.

[@MisterJackTheAttack]

He's the Russia of the video game world!

[@billbob2293]

He's getting better at it.

[@MrlspPrt]

​@@MisterJackTheAttack sadly, there're a lot of people rooting for Russia, at least in my country.

[@lightfeather9953]

​@@MrlspPrttrue, though global survey data is showing big drops all over the world since the latest invasion. So both govts and people in general are largely going against them

[@omeee]

@@MisterJackTheAttack I am actually unsure if there are more people hating the US or Russia. The US is hated very much across the world. The only thing that helps them is Hollywood, the best propaganda and pr machine in history.

[@staudinga]

Both the basketball and the quiet, seemingly constipated Billy had me in tears!

[@joshuasharrock466]

Seeing Billy Mitchell there just being quiet.. After Steve's description... Probably the funniest **** I've seen in 2023

[@Olsenator]

Big ups to the basketball for going so far in life.

[@darthbaluuduh6598]

Fun Fact: Steve Wiebe is such a legend that him being a basketball was referenced in Final Fantasy X. In one of the towns (Kilika) you can meet a kid who says: "I'm gonna be a blitzball when I grow up".

[@Thk10188965]

Sick title on that tape "Turnabout is Fair Play."

[@VirgilAspect]

To see a man like Steve successfully become a basketball, on top of all his other achievements, really encouraged me and my lifelong pursuit of someday becoming a hockey puck

[@doubleitp]

I was once a hockey puck.......ahh the good ol' days....

[@sprockettt]

I have always wanted to be a pinball. Just the ball. This new information has filled me with faith and determination.

[@heartsden2901]

Of all the incredible milestones Steve has achieved, nothing will ever top him becoming a basketball

[@Treyast]

My dad became a basketball, too. He bounced when I turned five.

[@SamsarasArt]

I wonder if he's related to the kid who became a Blitzball when he grew up.

[@D3K018]

The Billy Mitchell saga goes on, and it keeps getting better and better! Excellent job from Karl as always, I'm also glad these two guys admitted their mistakes in a civilized manner, but huge props to Karl because, despite time proving him right again, he didn't have the attitude of "ha, I told you so", instead recognized that these two guys were just mislead, Karl is always the bigger man because, despite these guys had attacked him, he never insulted them or anything, just mentioned in a video something like "I can't believe people still defend Billy"...

[@Selnathorn]

"He was even a basketball" That one got me so hard xD

[@Bacchus325]

It's crazy that more people can't be adults like these KZbinrs. Look how positive the reception has been to them just for being humble and honest like any good person should be.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

It could have been the same for Billy, he tried to stream on Twitch years ago, could have actually gotten a lot of viewers if he admitted he was wrong and committed to new gameplay, instead of constantly harping on this nonsense story. Way too late for that now.

[@AlvinKazu]

@@RobotMasterSplashThe crazy thing is that he seemed to genuinly be a good player, but I'm not 100% on that. It's crazy that instead of people trying hard, they lie and create a persona/lie about everything. It's so crazy. I couldn' t imagine the stress one would be under to keep this up, but for people of Bitchells' nature, he doesn't think anything is wrong, or that he did anything wrong. It's actually crazy.

[@knatred1489]

@@RobotMasterSplash If that happened he would sue himself.

[@Gamer3427]

@@AlvinKazu If watching this channel has shown anything, it's that a lot of the biggest cheaters, are players who were skilled enough to either accomplish what they lied about or at least come close. They just decide to take the easy route instead because they stop seeing much progress or they stopped caring and just wanted to see what they could get away with.

As a currently divorcing dad wanting at least some times with his kids, honesty and kindness bring you nowhere and you lose everything. Just my two cents.

[@Pecanhead]

Steve is a good human and a model of how to handle things the correct way.

[@doctortimm3245]

Most importantly, Steve is an adult who has grown and learned from his wins & losses, exactly like people should. Big bm however, is a massive child who cheats and lies and thinks that his comments are law, and anyone who challenges him is wrong just because he says so.

[@potassiumrichfoods]

Billy Mitchell eats the corn out of Liebe’s shit.

[@Pecanhead]

@@doctortimm3245 could not agree with you anymore. Very well said

[@Pecanhead]

@@potassiumrichfoods BHAHAHAHA

[@mohammadsattar5488]

Karl mate that introduction of Billy was just perfect. No words, just pure silence and bewilderedment at the clown show that is Billy from the .an himself

[@maddire2585]

Thanks for the update Karl. Hope you and the family are doing well. I was actually as surpirzed as much as you about VanBuren and Maris. Glad things worked out

[@Fender178]

I give Vanburen huge props for coming out and saying that he was wrong and that he was being used as well. The same thing applies to the other dude by adding more information about what he said before. Yeah Billy is pretty much done here because once the lawsuit is decided and dismissed with prejudice which means Billy can't do anymore lawsuits involving Twin Galaxies or Karl here.

[@wesplybon9510]

Thank you, Karl, for your commitment to honest, integrity driven journalism.

[@dertythegrower]

Please do one next on exaggerated video game master and daily streamer who ebegs viewers badly... Snort Hogan aka dsp Phil... i can get you six figures views and interviews after release, easy, if you interview and bust his father Dave Burnell.. many already have roasted him but he defrauds people just like Billy and claims he is the streetfighter game champion.. 😅

[@dopesickdog]

@@dertythegrower i see you on every DSP video lol

[@BreadPitt7]

0:38 “.. and the most important film ever produced” while showing Steve is master filmmaker level. I don’t know if you did that on purpose but it was great foreshadowing. Absolute legend.

[@thebettergamer2988]

I absolutely love when you make these videos

[@virkkipa419]

Takes a real man to be able to admit he was wrong. Respect ✊

[@ThunderChanter]

I love Billy's argument of "I havent seen it" like how have you not seen a clip that was a key point of evidence for why you cheated? How does that just slip thru the cracks when preparing for a deposition?

[@joeykeilholz925]

I think he hopes there's enough dopes staring blankly at the American flag tie.

[@iamtheteapot7405]

Same tactic every social media spokesperson uses in congress.

[@DasHemdchen]

Very interesting content, well and profoundly delivered!

[@TRDiscordian]

I'd sooner believe Steve Wiebe was a basketball than believe Billy Mitchel has a shred of decency.

[@krugerofcause9048]

Vanburen went from a clown to a legend. Biggest redemption-arc in history.

[@Nananki]

Billy being held accountable will be a step in the right direction. No respect for cheaters, ever.

[@user-gp5ce4ns4j]

Cheating for a game is petty. But making a career and fame out of lies and lying in court is evil

[@thedarkness125]

I'm at work troubleshooting an alarm on a wet etcher while listening to these in the background and boy that basketball bit got me.

[@geishasha]

I had a sore knee and I prayed to Steve Wiebe. The knee got slightly better.

[@thecountysfinest]

Praise the Wiebe 🙌

[@OriginalPiMan]

Time and Steve heals all wounds.

[@tjenadonn6158]

The power of the basketball.

[@JacktheRah]

I respect people who can admit that they were wrong. Especially when they do so on the internet. It really takes character.

[@dutchdykefinger]

It takes character to become a basketball

[@nines_tv]

Karl, I keep coming to this video for whole basketball bit. Nice editing!

[@MikesToolShed]

OMG, the first 2 minutes are amazing. Well done Karl... well done.