The absolute best way to know if your audio system any good

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Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

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Do you wonder about your sound, is it any good? The Audiophiliac is here to help answer that question.
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@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 4 жыл бұрын
"Yer system is really good if ya can't stop listening to it!" I think that's the best advice I've ever heard. Ever! Genius in it's simplicity.
@billybunter3753
@billybunter3753 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you're just listening to it because you're a spastic?
@wa2368
@wa2368 4 жыл бұрын
It is a struggle getting to work and i'm looking forward to getting off work and be back in my room pronto. No more bars, tv, and other lousy things in life....And i did it all for 4k!!! 25 years ago, i had to spend 25k (ugh) to have the same experience. I recouped 18k when i sold it all though. I'm done!!! I'll never buy anything again!!!
@thunderpooch
@thunderpooch 4 жыл бұрын
Your system is good when you forget about getting anything better. And any problem is immediately assumed to be your ears aging and their struggle to hear well above 8khz. Good mid, good tweeter, good lower bass woofer, and good sub = you're fine. Especially if they are phase and time aligned with DSP and you're crossovers are fully active, meaning: rip the passive crossovers out! Coils of wire, resistors, and caps don't belong before the amplified signal reaches the driver. Tweeter protection is ok. You can then EQ according to your ears. I'm not talking room correction for frequencies above 300hz. I'm talking about setting a frequency curve to your liking. For me, I like it mellow with air. I boost all below 100 hz by 3db. I then keep it flat until 2 to 4 k. This is the resonant frequency of ear canal and causes listening fatigue. 3khz is 3 db down. From 4 khz to 8khz is mostly flat. I then boost starting at roughly 8khz and reach a 3db boost at 16khz and keep it there for anything hire. And all these tone adjustments can be kept phase coherent due to DSP. Tone controls are back, baby! Problems are introduced when we insist on finding passive speakers which match well to an amp. It can't really be done. And the HiFi passive market knows you'll be unhappy and constantly in search of "upgrades." And the active market is currently a joke. Speaker boxes shouldn't contain class D amplifiers either. A speaker is a box or an enclosure containing one type of driver(s) fed an amplified signal intended soley for that driver(s). Enough of these unique drivers in close proximity to the other drivers creates a full speaker system able to produce the entire range without phase, time, or most distortion issues. The master race has to still build it themselves because the HiFi market knows this setup would kill their industry.
@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 4 жыл бұрын
@@thunderpooch Don't know why you felt like laying that rant on me over my simple comment, but, whatever floats yer boat!
@thunderpooch
@thunderpooch 4 жыл бұрын
@@HareDeLune part of it was my view on how one knows if their system is good. The other part, not directed at you, was a rant intended to inform why too many people keep chasing "upgrades" which really aren't upgrades at all. Most all the products offered are intentionally flawed because they know it will cause consumers to keep purchasing more gear. What I proposed is a fully customizable setup which can be adjusted as your age and preferences change without breaking the audiophile taboos of adjusting an EQ on a passive system which creates smear and phase problems. And nearly all active speakers have subpar class D plate amps in the speaker box. It's beyond stupid if quality and function is the main goal. Speakers should not contain passive crossovers or amps. Sadly, that's 99.9999% of the products sold today.
@yogarl7
@yogarl7 4 жыл бұрын
One of your very best video's Steve! The message, the tone, the delivery...so down to earth and real. "It's all about the music." Period!
@thesinwi
@thesinwi 4 жыл бұрын
Steve has been around for a long time, and I just gotta say I appreciate him so much. He's not here talking at you, he comes here to sit down, drop the needle, and enjoy a conversation with you. Kudos Steve. This is why I come here. No BS, no hub bub about I have a million dollar system. If you have a 100 dollar system, and you can listen...… then you to … have arrived.
@user-xg6zz8qs3q
@user-xg6zz8qs3q 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Don’t ever underestimate exciter speakers. They’re $10 a piece and all you need is a giant board of polystyrene or cardboard.
@draganantonijevic2441
@draganantonijevic2441 4 жыл бұрын
In individual terms: the system is good if you enjoy it.
@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dragan! Haven't seen you here for a while. Happy New Year!
@draganantonijevic2441
@draganantonijevic2441 4 жыл бұрын
@@HareDeLune Happy New Year to You and to all good (audiophile) souls!
@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 4 жыл бұрын
@@draganantonijevic2441 Thanks!
@colmercer3315
@colmercer3315 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like listening to my girl's nagging, is that mean I'm not an audiophile?
@afrog2666
@afrog2666 4 жыл бұрын
@@colmercer3315 Is that mean you need english classes? xD
@rcpdox11
@rcpdox11 4 жыл бұрын
A breath of much needed sensible advice. Way to go!!!
@johnlebeau5471
@johnlebeau5471 4 жыл бұрын
It happened to me when I caught myself choosing what I was going to listen to based on how good it sounded and not what I wanted to hear. That was almost 30 years ago and it caused a big change in both me and my system. Most of my system now is homemade, or at least handmade, vintage except for my DAC, low powered, single ended and tubed, including my DAC. The first thing to go in the great purge was my turntable, it's replacement, now long out of production from a company that no longer exists, will be inherited by my children, as will most everything else currently in the system. The system, while not cheap, was also not particularly expensive. I typically listen in the evening, and have to use the clock to determine when to stop so I can still get adequate sleep.
@jeffhunter4395
@jeffhunter4395 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John,this is exactly what I am going through right now.I'm 58yrs.old and old school Rock and Roll guy but when it comes to listening I default to my higher quality Jazz recordings,man I need to break this cycle and just listen 😎
@johnlebeau5471
@johnlebeau5471 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffhunter4395 I was unable to break that cycle without an equipment change. I was using a SOTA turntable with an E.T.II arm. I don't remember which cartridge I was using at the time. I sold the table and went on a nationwide (I am a pilot, I travel constantly) great turntable search. I listened to a lot of them, some very expensive, they pretty much all left me cold. Then I visited a little shop in Kalamazoo Michigan. They played for me a Pink Triangle Anniversary table with a Wilson Benesh arm, again I forget the cartridge, this was 30 years ago. I knew at that moment that this was the one. I didn't want to stop listening. I will have mine as long as I can keep it going. I have a Linn EKOS with a Miyajima Shilabe cartridge, but when I first tried a Linn arm it was with my favorite cartridge ever--a Koetsu Rosewood Pro-IV. Linn arms are greatly underappreciated, inexpensive used, and the best arm for a Koetsu I have used. Shortly after the turntable, I discovered the joys of single ended triodes, and that was all she wrote. My advice is: Don't use equipment that is revealing or "accurate" or trendy. Zero negative feedback single ended triodes are some of the poorest measuring amps out there, but they sound devine. Listen to equipment that sounds pretty and screw all that hi-fi snobbery nonsense about how your system is "euphonic". Don't buy new and don't spend too much, the time I was the least happy was when my system was the most expensive. Consider do it yourself kit building, you can indeed make outstanding equipment on your kitchen table. Most rock records will never pass for audiophile, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy listening to them.
@edwardbalboa5528
@edwardbalboa5528 4 жыл бұрын
This
@glennhooper31
@glennhooper31 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly the wisest KZbin segment I have ever heard. Cuts through the mist and nails it!
@scottk2806
@scottk2806 3 жыл бұрын
At almost a year old, this video is describing my issues...I need to just listen and stop thinking. So much good advice here, I find myself doing the things suggested on my own, somewhat comforting, thanks Steve!
@MrKgriffiths1
@MrKgriffiths1 4 жыл бұрын
My problem is that I love my system but my neighbours hate it
@linnaeusshecut3959
@linnaeusshecut3959 4 жыл бұрын
I live in an apartment building and love to listen to great organs! The end of this performance ends mightly loud: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJXGe4OcqpiogK8 Thankfully no one has complained. The only complaint I've got has been about my parrot whistling for attention. A neighbor yelled out the window "shut the f*ck up." I also listen to opera, "controlled screaming," as Pavarotti once said.
@moutazmattar2307
@moutazmattar2307 4 жыл бұрын
have same problem, welcome to the club
@edwinedwards6796
@edwinedwards6796 3 жыл бұрын
Turn it down!!😂
@TheAirConditionerGuy
@TheAirConditionerGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I got the same problem 😂😂 theyre use to it now tho its been 6 years, i turn it down after 9
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 3 жыл бұрын
It's like Klipsch's advertisements.
@moonphaser3304
@moonphaser3304 4 жыл бұрын
You understand the audiophile condition very well and offer great advice, experience shows!
@JacobFrey
@JacobFrey 4 жыл бұрын
Love the way you touched on cables, Steve. Well done, no matter how you feel about it.
@rivers2x
@rivers2x 4 жыл бұрын
When I travel for an extended period I always think about how I’m going to miss my system.
@FuskyTheHusky81
@FuskyTheHusky81 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one! Haha!
@FuskyTheHusky81
@FuskyTheHusky81 4 жыл бұрын
@Club Soda they will always hug you back in a big warm feild of sound 😂
@andershammer9307
@andershammer9307 4 жыл бұрын
I went through some nasty withdrawal symptoms when I spent a summer with my grandparents. Back then it was large Advents and a JVC receiver and Garrard turntable with Sonus cartridge. My grandparents only had a Radio Shack Stereo.
@PanosunLtd
@PanosunLtd 4 жыл бұрын
I miss my system too when I am away.
@brooksfb01
@brooksfb01 4 жыл бұрын
For me, it doesn't have to be an extended period. If hear a song I like when I'm out and about, I wonder how good it would sound on my system.
@ELcinegatto87
@ELcinegatto87 4 жыл бұрын
Breath of fresh air! You are always hitting the nail on the head Steve!
@krisandersson7156
@krisandersson7156 4 жыл бұрын
Your answer suprised me (in a good way).
@wildcat1065
@wildcat1065 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice. I have a rule with myself, that I can't upgrade something until I can explain exactly what is bothering me about the old one. Just buying something else in the hope it will be better is not good enough. Using my old system as a reference I then loan components and try to fix the "issue" without upsetting the things that were OK before. When I get it right, I usually have a really late night as I can't help but listen and keep pulling out tracks just to hear what they now sound like.
@denniswade4998
@denniswade4998 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, this is your best video yet! And this is one of the reasons why I like tube amps, because just swapping in different tubes can give me a new sound!
@maestro0428
@maestro0428 4 жыл бұрын
Love this one Steve. I spend more time at my computer(work and play) than in my listening room. Although I spend less time at it, I love the way it sounds but I love to tinker too so that keeps me coming back to re-listen my whole library all over again.
@brydon10
@brydon10 4 жыл бұрын
We all get caught up with new gear and wanting new gear. It's easy to forget what it's all about - enjoying the music. Moving speakers around really helped me find a much improved sound. I can't believe what a difference it can make. Like a totally new setup. Thanks Steve.
@pseudoty
@pseudoty 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. I upgraded my amp 2 months ago from a Yamaha avantage 5.1 setup to a Marantz PM8006 2.0 all other things being equal and I now find myself staying up an extra 90 minutes an evening to fit some more listening time in. I was getting ear fatigue from the Yamaha but with the Marantz the sound is so pure with low to no distortion that I just can’t get enough.
@fartman2269
@fartman2269 4 жыл бұрын
I've found most home theater recievers to be most annoying for listening to music. They have too many synthesized sound altering modes, they also split the wattage down too much.
@hemantishwaran5741
@hemantishwaran5741 4 жыл бұрын
I just put together a new system and can’t stop listening to music all the time. There was the usual extensive tinkering and excessive neurotic need to perfect the sound and definitely lost the feel for the music but stepping back brought it back and now I enjoy so much. I feel like this video was made just for me!
@AvalancheUKOfficial
@AvalancheUKOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching you for two years and was yet to subscribe. So there you go! Keep doing what you’re doing.
@1980JPA
@1980JPA 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. I find myself not even wanting to turn on the tv. I recently made some upgrades over the holidays, thanks to some gifts from my wife (which included a new TT cartridge) and she mentioned yesterday that she's gotten used to Jazz playing every evening and she loves it. Said she loves the vibe the house has lately. A couple years ago it was a toss-up as to whether the TV, stereo, or my laptop was the main source of attention, but in the last year or so, the stereo trumps all else.
@walttrowbridge7687
@walttrowbridge7687 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I may not have near as much into mine as some of your other followers, around a grand into mine. Just a simple cheaper tube amp, nice set of speaker, $300 turn table, 15band rack mount eq and a cheap turntable preamp. But like you said. I got to the point where I'd come home from work and just go thru record after record after record, next thing I know ill be 5 or 6 hours into listening. Then listening more before work... day after day. Im at the point I can't stand to listen to music unless its on my little system anymore. Now my record collection isn't large by any means. I started collecting from my favorite artists back in 2003, however recently I started expanding once I built my system. I'm happy with what it is. I get alot of comments from friends and family that listen to it. Even had one of my friends ask where the best place to set. I suggested a place and he said actually its good no matter where you set LOL. He grew up in the 70s Era. Where I grew up in the 90s Era so I have yet to even scratch the surface on the 70s music... which I feel is the best time for music.
@eduardoquirino8131
@eduardoquirino8131 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the wharfedale sound for years, so in my retirement years, I chose the 10.4 floorstanders because they are small enough for my bedroom and just loud enough 125W ea. then I decided on a Cayin LA34 tube integrated amp (32W/channel) and a Marrantz cd 6004. Bought all these brand new under $2000. After playing around with the tubes, finally found the right sound with 4X El34 Mullards, 2X 12AU7 PSVane, gold pin and 1 piece JJ ECC 803S gold pin. The music is sublime & smooth and filled the room with wonderful music, Vangelis, O'hearn, Fourplay Rippingtons, Classic Jazz and Classical music. I even brought the whole system to the living room which has 20 foot slanted ceiling and the stereo system filled that room with great music. One does not need tons of money to buy a great stereo system, one needs great patience to be prudent and buy what you really need and enjoy.
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Im being pedantic, but a potential objective way to tell is to use an audio spectrum analyzer with the microphone placed about where you would normally listen. Assuming your microphones response is reasonably flat, you can run a 20-20 kHz sine frequency ramp at a constant volume and see what the amplitude response is over the frequency band from the speaker(s) under test. Ideally it should be reasonably flat, with the amplitude falling off at the lowermost and uppermost frequencies of the speakers response range. Provides a relatively easy way to assess the response of the hi-fi setup and also objectively make any needed tweaks to the EQ, or see if there are undesirable resonance peaks, dips, etc. Obviously it wont assess issues like impulse response, odd resonance modes, or phase/frequency linearity issues, but at least you'll have hard numbers to back up the "I think it sounds good."
@Noah-Lach
@Noah-Lach 4 жыл бұрын
Best advice I’ve ever heard. Since I got my B&W 606s my gaming and TV watching have probably been cut down to 1/4 of what they used to, because all I ever want to do when in front of my TV is play music. I consider that a very good sign that I made the right choice.
@3dimensionsofmusic3D
@3dimensionsofmusic3D 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on Steve. Just upgraded to a new McIntosh integrated. I have sometimes slinked up from my listening room at 2 or 3 in the morning because the music sounds good enough to me that I don't want it to stop. Cheers.
@WarinPartita6
@WarinPartita6 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks​ so​ much​ for​ your​ wise words, Steve.
@bc527c
@bc527c 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing to me how you and a few others keep talking about stuff I'm thinking of. - I hadn't started watching when IO wrote that, I wrote it because 30 minutes ago I was musing to myself that if nobody ever comes over to check out my setup I'll never know... started watching and your first statement... about if you listen to it a lot... It's so good these days I actually have slept in the room because I didn't want to stop listening, and that was after hours and hours of listening already.
@michaelb9664
@michaelb9664 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the audiophiles who don’t enjoy their system. I feel a lot of lack of enjoyment for those who don’t enjoy it, may come down to taking the hi fi press too seriously. Audiophiles who don’t fully understand the technicalities of what’s going on, always end up wondering how their kit compares to what they are reading about. They take the opinions of people they have never met as gospel and often overlook the key things which really do influence sound. I think it’s safe to say that all modern DACs are audibly transparent. A well designed amplifier, is a well designed amplifier. They don’t colour the recorded source material. If they do they are not designed correctly. The biggest influence on what you hear is your speakers relationship with your room. If this is wrong, then no amplifier or DAC or turntable or whatever is going to fix that. Forget about cables, if they are designed for the task at hand then, that’s all you need. Swapping an RCA lead can’t give you more bass or treble, or whatever. Yes speakers sound different and some sound better in certain rooms than others. Seriously get the speaker choice and set up right and the kit disappears. You hear what was recorded, or as close as you’re going to get to that in your home environment. Audiophiles who are constantly swapping boxes of electronics and cables are on a hiding to nothing. I’m 40 and have been an audiophile since I was 13. I have been through the whole cycle and have heard some very expensive equipment. I saw the light years ago. Get your listening environment right, get gear with a flat response and low distortion (not expensive) and choose your speakers to suit your room and electrically match them with your amplifier. Enjoy the music and don’t listen for listenings sake. Being in the mood and receptive to your music gets you halfway there, even without hi fi.
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 4 жыл бұрын
Great comment,, 👍, I'm all set with my gear, speakers placed right for the room, room is fine accusticly, good synergy between gear,, but it's the difference in recordings that sometimes annoys me, some stuff is like wow, and other stuff leaves you feeling not so wow.
@michaelb9664
@michaelb9664 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Wibb totally agree. This is where ‘hifi’ really does it’s job. You can clearly tell a good recording from a bad one. Unfortunately many of them are bad, this is another mistake some people make with chasing the holy grail. Not all recording engineers and record producers are good. Not many have accuracy and realism in mind. Changing your gear to make poor recordings sound good is also pointless.
@paulwibb.8944
@paulwibb.8944 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelb9664 true,, I suppose most music is produced,, for the masses.
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelb9664 this is why there are also systems that have been designed to be slightly more forgiving. So it depends if you want totally neutral and accurate reproduction or a slight compromised setup but more musically engaging..luckily we can all follow and find what our ears and hearts want
@balooo2863
@balooo2863 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Brannighan you are absolutely correct. A lot of the music I love from the Motown hay day was engineered just awful and good gear can make it sound worse. Thankfully on my set up simply switching to mono does the trick. At the end of the day it should be about the music not the gear.
@ianpeck2719
@ianpeck2719 4 жыл бұрын
Best advice I have heard in 2020 so far for audio heads...I heard some heads explode when you mentioned “Cables” I have experienced the difference in sound of making cable changes in my system, good and bad.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
@user-od9iz9cv1w 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice. WRT cables. Try making your own to see if it clears up some issues and open a new window to the sound. Interconnects with 24 gauge magnet wire in packing tape makes a very revealing cable. Just run 2 parallel wires 1/2 inch apart and dirt cheap RCA connectors. If you find that great (as I did) and want more? Then build a new set with 99.9% silver wire as the conductor. Then upgrade to KLEI RCA connectors. With each of these changes you will open a window deeper into the music. Costs next to nothing if you have a soldering iron. If not, time to get one. But watch out. This is how I started down the road to DIY all my gear. It's wonderful. You can then make small incremental upgrades and seldom have to outright replace your gear.
@alexanderscott3790
@alexanderscott3790 4 жыл бұрын
Im right with ya Steve! The more revieling the system, the more cables making a difference, ime.
@markfreedman2470
@markfreedman2470 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely perfect definition of a nice sound system. You start listening to just the music and enjoying it! Thanks Steve.
@2574mcu
@2574mcu 4 жыл бұрын
I agree about changing cables. Some people say it doesn't matter but I can hear the difference.
@afistfulofpimples1745
@afistfulofpimples1745 4 жыл бұрын
Trimming the hair inside your ears also helps. I can hear the difference, much more so than cables.
@brucegelman5582
@brucegelman5582 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful advice.
@lynnlittle8671
@lynnlittle8671 9 ай бұрын
I finally turned my biggest bedroom into a dedicated (2 channel only) listening room a week ago. I'm definitely not through 'tuning' the room, but the difference is huge. I find myself listening for hours, loving the sound of my system in this new room! The depth of soundstage is staggering!
@BetterISupposeYeah
@BetterISupposeYeah 4 жыл бұрын
Greatest and wisest response to a commonly asked question.
@raffiequler7510
@raffiequler7510 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, I can never stop watching your videos. It must be because you are an exceptional man.
@michaelgebauer5235
@michaelgebauer5235 4 ай бұрын
Steve, that's a wonderful definition of what a good audio system is when you can't stop listening
@RobertScottAudio
@RobertScottAudio 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your first 100k subscribers!! Your channel is a jewel.
@cletusberkeley9441
@cletusberkeley9441 Жыл бұрын
I'm always listening to my system, can't get enough of it. This affliction has been going on for decades! ❤😂
@mpp9964
@mpp9964 4 жыл бұрын
I had heard that if your system still sounds full and satisfying at low volume then that’s a good indication. I would tend to agree as I find that’s the case with my system!
@rshearn
@rshearn 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say what you just said. I live in a apartment and I listen to the Tannoy Ardens with two rel 812 subs at 4am everyday when I get home from work. Not one complaint in 2 1/2 years yet ( fingers crossed). I tell that to people and they always say your neighbors must hate you.. lol. I try explain to them that i don't feel the need to turn up the volume. I can already hear everything clearly and with bass. I admit when they are not home I do turn it up a little though.
@justanotheryoutubeuser5029
@justanotheryoutubeuser5029 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 sets of entry level speaker (wharfedale 225 and bnw 607). I love them both and different sound signatures. I agree that you dont need to get news speakers. Just move them around and have a good time with it.
@afrog2666
@afrog2666 4 жыл бұрын
"is my soundsystem good?" Does it sound good? "yes" Then it`s good..
@cnoboa
@cnoboa 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree Steve! Fantastic statement. When you listen a lot and also hope to have more time to keep listening, yes sir you have a good system. It's very important not to deviate from the root of all, and that is the music itself. Happy listening!!!
@yourdiytechlife
@yourdiytechlife 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice! The other night I plugged my favorite headphones directly in to my phone and BAM I was there just listening to the music for two hours. It was great and I don't get to do it that often with the constant dull roar of the family around 😉. I am looking forward to my next session mostly because I wasn't even thinking about the simple gear I was using 😁
@linnaeusshecut3959
@linnaeusshecut3959 4 жыл бұрын
If you have a good home-theater set-up, I recommend the Blu-ray disc of Rudolf Buchbinder and the Staatskappelle playing Mozart's piano concertos nos. 20, 21, and 27. The sound formats are PCM 2.0 and DTS-HD 5.0. (Unitel/Classica, C Major brand, made in Austria)
@donalddeorio2237
@donalddeorio2237 3 жыл бұрын
Covid has given me lots of time to really sit and enjoy the music, I've also discovered how really good my system sounds. That's really the point is enjoying the music for music's sake. Another good video Steve
@wouterlevering4296
@wouterlevering4296 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I only have a few nights in the week to play a few records, but when i start.....it's almost impossible to stop.
@bat2137
@bat2137 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve basically you called out all the stuff I have been working on for the past few months thanks for the great advice now I'm buying dirt cheap cds in the local charity shop and my enthusiasm for discovering new music has been revived.
@mariocassar3117
@mariocassar3117 4 жыл бұрын
You never get tired listening to it, and most of music genres sound great!
@opiekrumpus4182
@opiekrumpus4182 4 жыл бұрын
I am very pleased with my Fluance rt81 and Edifier 1280t speakers. Sound quality is smooth as silk and I mostly enjoy Progressive rock from the 70's and 80's music. Play my system every day and love the vinyl ritual and turntable interaction.
@nc3419
@nc3419 4 жыл бұрын
"If you can't stop listening to it"...simple yet elegant view.
@baotran5863
@baotran5863 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advising , love to hear more from you .
@jorgem50
@jorgem50 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a basic system since 1995, this year I upgraded all my stuff and I listen to it every single day now.
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 4 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS on 100,000 subs! Well deserved. And horn speakers really are special.
@millercroger
@millercroger 4 жыл бұрын
At 71 years old I've finally got the small vintage system I cannot stop listening to. I run ADS L400's and Infinity Infintesimals with a 10 in. Sony sub. 600 watts total in a small room sounds like you're wearing a giant pair of headphones. Too cool.
@eggshellskullrule7971
@eggshellskullrule7971 4 жыл бұрын
I do mine. It gives me the fun even when I watch cable TV and KZbin with it. It makes me look for a reason to listen to it. I think at 13k usd, it outperforms the old big Utopia most of the time.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 4 жыл бұрын
Phew. I guess mine must be great, even though it is a budget, dare I say, 'audiophile' system. I listen everyday to a few or lots more albums. I spent a lifetime building a music collection of rock, jazz, blues, world, and classical. But never gave much thought to the sound I was getting, just being a happy idiot instead. As a single divorced guy in my 50's, things are often pretty quiet around here, and I really do enjoy having my audio system and music collection fill my world with great sound and all the good it does me. Currently listening thru a 2.2 system and movies in 5.2. It may not be everyone's cup o' tea, but it's luxury I can afford. Oddly enough, I went thru a period of listening fatigue when I bought some new gear and started to take sound more seriously. Then I learned about reflection and room acoustics and all Steve's great advice and am now enjoying my music again. Thanks, Steve!
@dorningarts
@dorningarts 4 жыл бұрын
This is great! Be a music lover first.
@OldTooly
@OldTooly 3 жыл бұрын
My epiphany was when I went from the audio mindset of massive loud, clear, rock concert sound to detailed imaging, sound stage and full frequency at low to moderate volumes. Going from 3 pairs of A7-500 Altec Lansing Voice of the Theaters, powered by Crown DC series power amps, to a single pair of Celestion Model A compacts, powered by an Edelweiss 3 (6wpc) in a near field configuration was the most unexpected improvement in my appreciation of the music. In the 2 years since this happened I have built, with spare components from around the house, a hybrid system capable of 117db (measured) spl, but capable of delicate nuances and the deepest bass (17hz, measured) even at 70 db. I purchased a MiniDsp product but have yet to use it as I am still working with mechanical setup parameters, crossover points and various balance levels between the various speakers themselves. When I have exhausted all the testing and experimenting I will turn finally to EQ and DSP assuming I still have any unresolved issues. But swapping out wiring, moving speakers, seating positions, adding and subtracting room accouterments, adjusting crossover points and levels, and let's not forget just angling speakers both in and out of toe, but also up and down as well as the height of your seating position, will take a lot of time and dedication. You have to spend listening time with each change to get an honest evaluation, even the bad stuff teaches lessons. And having achieved a level of sound that keeps you up late hours not wanting to ever turn the system off again is the just and delightful reward of these design methods. Even yet, I have to try the Tekton 2 10 Perfect Set speakers because I dreamed up virtually that exact array of mid/high drivers and these are already worked out. I'm still 2 months out for delivery but I am so ready. It's the first new speakers I have bought since the first pair of Altec A7-500 kits in 1971. All others were preowned or built by me. Thanks for all your presentations.
@MichaelLivingston-me
@MichaelLivingston-me 4 жыл бұрын
Steve you've topped yourself with this presentation. Your advice is spot on. This video is worth the price of admission. 😉
@666PANDEMONIUM
@666PANDEMONIUM 4 жыл бұрын
"Temporary relief from your neurotic behaviour-" That cuts deep Steve.
@yogarl7
@yogarl7 4 жыл бұрын
But it's frickin' true! Audiophiliosis runs rampant!
@jhallo7740
@jhallo7740 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. My guide to tell if a system is sounding really great, is my both feet. If it starts tapping on the rhytm of the music, i can tell for sure i'm enjoying the music. If you are listening to analysing the audio components, somethings wrong. If the music " grabs" your attention, the specs and looks of the equipment is not important anymore!🤔
@radhatter7588
@radhatter7588 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never enjoyed movies and music as much as I do now. I’ve pieces together the best sounding system I’ve ever heard by being very patient and waiting for insanely good deals on OfferUp and craigslist. It’s become quite an addiction buying new pieces of brands like kef, Miller & kreisel, bowers & Wilkins. Every new piece makes such a huge difference in the sound quality and the enjoyment of listening. Purchasing a power conditioner made a huge noticeable difference for me and am currently searching for amps to replace my marantz receiver. Good channel keep it up!
@dam4274
@dam4274 4 жыл бұрын
For my 11th birthday I got a GE stereo AM/FM 8-track player. It had a phono selection but I never got one. I left it for my brother when I moved out at 19. It had two 5 1/4” full range drivers in each a big box. I played them every day! My Aerosmith, Led Zep, Black Sabbath and more, all sounded good.
@MrCatalysis101
@MrCatalysis101 4 жыл бұрын
Soundstage is absolutely vital isn't it? I couldn't be happy without that.
@mitchwright4446
@mitchwright4446 4 жыл бұрын
I had become very neurotic around record cleaning, to the point where any sort of click or pop would kill my ability to enjoy the music. This video really helped me to take a step back and reassess what I was trying to accomplish with my music reproduction system. That said, the approach Mr. Guttenberg presents to root out problem source(s) leaves something to be desired. In my view, the first step is to identify and eliminate noise. With each audio source, is there noise and of what type (hum, buzz, or other junk)? Each has its own cause and cure. Whatever the system, start with component outputting the smallest signal and work backward/inward. If there is a turntable and CD player in the mix, play the same recording on both. If the CD sounds better, the weakest link can be found somewhere in the turntable, interconnect, or phono pre-amp. Once everything else is in good shape is the time to start looking at the power amp (assuming it is relatively modern and in good condition) and speakers. I would put swapping out speaker cables at the bottom of the list (if at all). The type of connector, though, is very important. In my experience/research, the compression type (e.g. screw down using a 5-way binding post) is best; "banana" style is the worst and should be avoided.
@richardellard
@richardellard 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is 100% right: try different cables... in a blind ABX test. It's a fun experiment/experience you can share with a friend.
@ricras8030
@ricras8030 4 жыл бұрын
I spent almost two years in trying to build up a system as perfect as possible for my means. When I was thinking I had reached my goal, something still was missing. It took some time to understand that my system needed a long warming: that means at least 3 hours and half! At the beginnig the sound is stereo, then it becomes 3D and at the end I fully dive into the music! At that moment, as Steve says, it is almost impossible to stop listening.
@ghostownaproach
@ghostownaproach 4 жыл бұрын
My stuff is all second hand bought over years and nothing audio buffs would be impressed with but I listen every day and love it and my wife puts up with my two subwoofers shaking the house. I often wonder what I might be missing by not having or ever even hearing the expensive gear you guys have. There was a high end store in my area once that I loved going into and hearing good sound but other than that I'm content with what sounds good to me. I have changed my room around multiple times seeking the best setup for what I have and having tried every way possible it seems, I have settled for how it is now pretty much. Love your channel though!
@thomasgrim4325
@thomasgrim4325 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve, you knocked it out of the park! Its so true, its about the power of the enjoyment it provides...
@kenblair2538
@kenblair2538 4 жыл бұрын
Truer wors where never said. Speakers, Speakers, Speakers ! ABout 6 yrs. ago, I started rebuilding a vintage stereo system. (I grew up on vintage stuff, before converting to digital, then moved back to vintage 2 channel stuff) After amassing several turntables, and learning to align cartridges, stylus and all that stuff, I turned my attention to the speakers. A set of AR's, I bought back in the 80's, while stationed in Germany. Rebuilt the surrounds, and began the process of speaker placement. After researching several experts, (can't remember who) , I spent the next 6 mos. , moving those 50 lb. speakers in-out and all around, till one day, my test recording, popped into place. Yes, it all came together. Beautiful sound from my records and CD's. All that has changed, was to add more music to my library. I have 2 TT's in daily use and swap out cartridges, that's it. Those old AR's, never sounded so good. If the pressing is good, I enjoy a lovely sound stage, can pick out the individual instruments, in a dark room. KB
@golfrichardvc
@golfrichardvc 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true ! I've recently upgraded my audio system and haven't listened to this much music in years.
@milkman100001
@milkman100001 4 жыл бұрын
great way to look at things.its right too.if you look forward to listening to it,there must be something good about it that you like.
@thebelasarius
@thebelasarius 4 жыл бұрын
Long time listener and this hits the nail on its head. Best advice yet in the KZbin world of the latest and greatest gear pushers. Speaking of gear I’ve been very pleasantly surprised what difference a mobile dac has made to my listening pleasure. Thanks in no part to Apple removing the headphone jack from the phone...
@hyperluminalreality1
@hyperluminalreality1 4 жыл бұрын
If your system affects you emotionally it is doing it's job. Listening duration has nothing to do with it. Plenty of people listen to Alexa play tunes all day every day. They are NEVER overcome by the music.
@MrTopgearfanatic
@MrTopgearfanatic 4 жыл бұрын
When I'm away from home for like a week or two, I really truly miss my system. So I think I'm good at this point. Sometimes I upgrade some basic gear I have.
@jeffaz
@jeffaz 4 жыл бұрын
Last year I made some modifications to my system, resulting in significant improvements. None of them were in electronics. The first was simply the position of the couch - zero cost. The second and most significant was the feet of the front speakers - which I changed to IsoAcoustics Gaia. And finally, I replaced the rack with a real wood one.
@jamiermathlin
@jamiermathlin 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice Steve, it is all in the listening :-)
@pineapplemanbuhr1248
@pineapplemanbuhr1248 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally my sound system is in my van and I live in an apartment and every chance I get I will carry my record player down to my van and put some vinyl on and play it front to back I did spend a lot of time thinking of what I wanted for a sound system and built it in the van so I can listen to my music everywhere and create some more audio files at car shows listening to my sound system it's not a huge expensive sound system but with everything entailed it is expensive. But rain snow and the heat still won't stop me from listening to my music
@stevenjackson8226
@stevenjackson8226 4 жыл бұрын
Wisdom wrought by experience. I know the experience well. As hard as I try to attend to the audiophile stuff, I just can't resist being pulled away from that and being drawn into the music. There's no audiophile stuff to listen for anymore, the system is just doin' it. The opposite of that is where you keep getting abruptly awaken from the musical trance, or even being able to be entranced in the first place, by things that keep diverting attention. I'm in a good place with headphone headphone journey these days. I'm enjoying it very much. I look for, and forward to, more moments to listen, and am happy to listen to the same music again and again because it sounds so good, I'm encouraged to search out new because I want to enjoy it on my kit, or finding that music I've enjoyed more casually to have the experience of it on a better playback system.
@chrish.4067
@chrish.4067 3 жыл бұрын
What a great hobby! It will be 50 years next year that my dad took a 14 year old me to Melton's in Atlanta and said "son, are you sure that you want to spend that much money on a stereo?" That $1200 bought a Marantz 2220, Studio Craft speakers, and a dual turntable with a Shure cartridge. Non-fatiguing is my measure of my system. That is if I start listening and keep listening. Now, I have temporary speakers that are fatiguing because they are cheap Best Buy Insignia speakers filling a now two month gap. I may just turn it off for a while until the new speakers arrive.
@Greenhousegrower-world
@Greenhousegrower-world 4 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos up until now Steve! 100K and going!
@senzen2692
@senzen2692 3 жыл бұрын
It's a great point, applies to many more hobbies, photography in particular fails to appreciate the sheer joy of taking pictures, as opposed to pixel peeping and such like. My very humble audio system passes the test, which began with "has to sound at least as good as my headphones".
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 4 жыл бұрын
Ok,now regarding cables; I believe they are absolutely an effective TWEAK. You just have to be realistic, if you have a moderate or entry level system expensive cables aren't going to suddenly reveal information that isn't there.
@edwardbalboa5528
@edwardbalboa5528 4 жыл бұрын
Cables make no difference.... Scientific fact
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardbalboa5528 I thought so true until I got some real high end speakers.
@MrAMF50
@MrAMF50 4 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy watching thanks. One comment, I come to realize after a lifetime of listening that upgrading the amp is more important than upgrading the speakers.in most cases. Certainly you can make a case either way but todays budget speakers are pretty good and can come alive and impress you big time with a good amp up near the thousand dollar range.
@garyausten5939
@garyausten5939 10 ай бұрын
It makes me feel better that I can still be an audiophile (have a system that sounds good to me) without spending my last dollar on high end equipment. Earlier this year I replaced an old Technics SL-5 turntable with a cheap cartridge (none of the buttons would work anymore) with my first "real" table, a Rega P2 with an upgraded cart, the AT-VM540ML. I hooked it it into the phono jack of my AVR, but always had to crank up the volume to get much sound. I found out that the S/N ration of the phone jack was 74dB while the CD input was 102. I bought a Rega Fono MM Mk5 last week, plugged it in to the CD jack, and my records haven't sounded better :)
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
I use my system daily for streaming music, watching TV, DVDs and Internet browsing. Often flicking from one source to another. Funnily I stillI haven't even got hi-res deezer or tidal yet, but it still sounds really amazing! We are truly lucky to be living in this age and time where there is so much great (new and used) hi-fi gear available - to suit ears curiosity and budgets. For a thousand pounds UK. I got a secondhand peachtree Nova, a dual mono gainclone power amp, qacoustic 3050 floor standers and two Anthony Gallo's tr2 subs. On homemade stands, DIY connectors and van damn shotgun cables which impresses, captivates and surprises me and my friends. Hi-fi should not intimidate as its a great adventure...just follow your ears
@matthewtoomer2181
@matthewtoomer2181 4 жыл бұрын
There is an old saying in the audio engineering world "if it sounds good then its good"
@hvskyline1368
@hvskyline1368 4 жыл бұрын
My portable dongle dac amp i was using crapped out on me which sucks cuz it really brought my headphones to life so now imma buy a headphone dac and amp for my desktop and then buy a nice audio player im wanting the hiby r5
@VintageGearMan
@VintageGearMan 3 ай бұрын
Some of my records like my acrylic turntable mat and some dig a wool mat. Record to bright, throw on a wool mat or a rubber mat. It can be that simple sometimes. This was a great video.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@adamhill7808
@adamhill7808 4 жыл бұрын
When ever I've been to a hi fi show and return home to my system, mine always sounds better than 80% of what I heard that day
@yogarl7
@yogarl7 4 жыл бұрын
Love your comment I heard $125,000 speakers once which did nothing for me. I preferred my $30 Goodwill scored, Mirage M290's!
@waynetoneseekerandersen2213
@waynetoneseekerandersen2213 4 жыл бұрын
This is right in so many ways! Thanks Steve
@lesirephilippe8041
@lesirephilippe8041 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of changing the place of loudspeakers is a good one. Changing the angle can bring a different stereo imaging. I made this experience a few weeks ago with electrostatic loudspeakers after a period of doubt ! And since I've recovered a peaceful mind !
@charliedavidson3878
@charliedavidson3878 4 жыл бұрын
The problem really is people can't Demo and they got into Audio for the wrong reasons . Most people jump in feet first without a plan . Make a plan and stick to it . Don't make the mistake of caring about what other people think, build the system you want . Start with Speaker selection, placement and limitations and work your way back or forward . Buy as new as possible vintage is not a good source. buying problems is a good way of losing interest . It's like buying a brand new 2020 Honda civic SI versus a used 2009 Nissan Sentra which one are you going to enjoy the most ? My brother buys once and never looks back, He has owned his system for over 40 years with minor maintenance and repairs and he's as happy as a clam . He doesn't know or care about anything else . He has 1/10th of what I have invested and 10 times more enjoyment than I have . It's not a competition .
@baaning
@baaning 4 жыл бұрын
Brillant video. One thing I missed was powercables. I've been playing with interconnects since mid 70'es but never thought of powercables as an important factor. Just simple powerline, right. Then 4 years ago a guy handled me a small selection of different brands of hifi oriented power cables and a well made powerstrip and said: Shut up and try these. I was shocked by the impact and spend the next couple of years experimenting. To day I will happily claim, that my 15 year old system sound twice as good as before updating 'power-snakes'. To me the most important cable in the system is now the one from the wall to the powerstrip. Never be prejudiced🤓
@jlmain5777
@jlmain5777 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I’m the weakest part of my system. Hahaha.
@EvilBonsai
@EvilBonsai 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't we all?
@AndreiMuntean0
@AndreiMuntean0 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! My ears can’t hear beyond 18 kHz 😤
@EvilBonsai
@EvilBonsai 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndreiMuntean0 you must be young. I can't hear over 10KHz
@yogarl7
@yogarl7 4 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!🤣🤣🤣 That is the greatest comment, Hilarious!
@duroxkilo
@duroxkilo 4 жыл бұрын
listening is so much more complex than just hearing... mood and all that contribute to the sensations felt while listening to music so much more than the sound system. sometimes i plug in an old radio that i just fixed or tuned or simply dusted off and i listen to it the entire evening and night just because it feels like i have a special connection with the device. some days i play music on old b&w and some days i'd have a bunch of klipsch on from early morning till late at night... i prefer proper sound quality just as much as the next guy, but if the mood, company, weather, whatever is fine, i can listen to music on an alexa speaker and still enjoy it.. cheers everyone!
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