The Treadmill Motor With DLM Control Unit & Motor Strip Down

See my new treadmill motor with a DLM speed control unit. Plus the motor stripped to see the high quality components and how to re-assemble a DC Motor that has long screws. ITEMS SHOWN IN THIS VIDEO LINKS BELOW:-
DLM 220V AC Speed Control Controller -- goo.gl/n5gzhT
SMARTSENSOR AR925 Digital Tachometer Contact Motor Tachometer -- goo.gl/9i18xR
Treadmill Motor Sets:-
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[@stephenmurray2335]

In just about each video you post there's a 'Now why didn't I think of that?' moment. In this one it was the brass rod trick. Brilliant! Thanks for sharing.

[@junglejammer1]

A very clever way of installing the screws back in the motor. I'll have to remember that one, Steve.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

Hi Steve, you have an excellent video channel so I have subbed. That set up is really neat and tidy and for low power applications is ideal. I would like to point out a couple of things before people rush out and start changing all their AC motors on their equipment. Most treadmill motors range from 1hp or 745 watts up to 4hp or 2980 watts so that neat little controller won’t do. Also if, like me, you mainly work with metal you may be very disappointed if you convert machines like your drill press or lathe because of the torque factor. Here is a simplified example: If I have a 1hp treadmill motor and slow it down from 1500rpm to 150rpm I still only have 1hp of torque BUT if I reduce my 1hp AC motor via gears or pulleys from 1500rpm down to 150rpm then I have effectively increased the torque by a factor of 10 giving me the torque of a 10hp motor. Like a car going up a hill, when the load increase the engine wants to stall so we change down to a lower gear to keep going. The engine does not have any more power but the gears allow for an increase in torque. I know this is very simplistic but I hope it shows what I mean. However there is are a couple of ways to get around this by still using just one or two gears/ belts. I have found that the DC Motor Conversion does have a place in my workshop and that is on machines that have no speed adjustment like bench grinders, belt sanders, a ball mill and bandsaws as being able to slow down and speed up these tools to be very handy. I have seen posts on other videos of people complaining that the dc motors don’t have any torque at low speeds but I disagree, an electric motor develops maximum torque at 1rpm and stays at maximum torque right to it’s maximum speed but most people are trying to drill or machine heavy parts at low speed and that is where that gearing becomes very important. There is also the issue of inertia at higher speeds that is missing at low speeds. I hope I have not put anyone off this conversion but people need to be aware of the short falls. Thanks for your great videos, cheers Stuart 🇦🇺

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Stuart, Thanks..The actual video isn't about using this DC motor set up for converting a lathe, although I see you are addressing the comment above. The DC motor set-up that came installed on my Chinese Mini Lathe caused no end of problems. I have seen Chinese Mini Lathes converted over, using a treadmill motors. I think many people in the USA use them on their Harbour Freight Mini Lathes. I don't know how successful they are though particularly in prolonged or heavy duty use. I personally wouldn't choose to use one for driving a lathe or drill press. I found the best option is to convert a lathe over to 3 phase using a VFD. It maybe a little expensive at first, if one uses a new motor, but it sorts out all of the machine motor problems for good. I only use the treadmill motor for variable speed milling attachments like this one.....you may have seen it already. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4DdamaqhaiSY9E The variable speed treadmill motor set up is ideal for this type of thing. Regards Steve

[@jasonnewton3842]

I've had the same controller running my atlas lathe with a dc 220v 2.5 hp 10amp treadmill motor for the last 4 years, never missed a beat.

[@teresashinkansen9402]

Wow 2.5hp motor for a human treadmill? i wonder how large is the motor for horse treadmills!

[@remytremblay2480]

Do you lose power at lower rpm ?

[@user-ed5ul5bi3n]

Здравствуйте, Стив. Спасибо за ролик, за ваш труд и полезную информацию. Мне это полезно, я использую для самодельных станков моторы с постоянными магнитами от блендеров, 230 вольт DC 300-600 ватт. Питание подаю 0-120 вольт через регулируемый трансформатор и выпрямитель, максимального напряжения не даю. Трансформатор слишком тяжелый, а вот такой регулятор как на вашем видео подходит, я думаю, замечательно. Успехов вам и здоровья!

[@TheNonganario]

Awesome video... thx so much. Just received my DLM controller today and will test it out tomorrow. This was a life saver.

[@nikond90ful1]

Thanks for the video Steve, At that price it's probably a good idea to have a couple in the workshop for future projects.

[@rayfalcone6897]

i ordered two controllers,they just arrived about a half hour ago,tonight they will be installed,thanks for sharing Steve nice video.

[@jimgoodwin6294]

Thank you Steve for uploading this video. Just bought this very same motor and display - well impressed but think I need the same controller as you show here as I'm constructing a rotary welding positioner which we're looking for an ideal speed of 1 rpm to a maximum of 10 rpm so ideally need a more controllable, low speed bottom end... That's some serious reduction so would be happy to hear anyone's advise to achieve that.... Oh, don't say buy a Chinese positioner as they can't handle the current we're using......

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Jim, You could always make up an adapter to fit one of these planetary gearboxes. You can buy them in all different ratios. The drive pulls out the back so that you can mount them on an adapter to suit the end of a motor shaft, then re-insert to use. I have a a 5:1 ratio and that is the slowest. They also give fantastic high torque. Nema17 Planetary Gearbox Gear Motor -- goo.gl/MhxDmW

[@DukeRaven]

Wow what a find, I'm looking for treadmill motors too for a DIY lathe! Wish I could find some on the cheap :D

[@zetor118118]

Great idear Steve I use this DC unit to run my washing machine motor on my lathe works well you have a good voice reminds me of Frank Spencer keep up the good work

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Scooby Doo Thanks for watching. The washing machine motors look good. I haven't tried one yet though. Regards Steve

[@danmoreton1788]

Nice video Steve. I see a treadmill motor in my future!!

[@rayfalcone6897]

thanks for sharing Steve,nice rview and tutorial.

[@run66]

great video steve!! brilliantly helpful

[@trosslv]

Nice video. Well done.

[@slakjawnotsayin5451]

The DLM is too weak to run a treadmill motor properly. It works, but it hums and is only good for light duty sanders or similar projects, not anything that requires much force. You can pop it open and turn the potentiometer up to get closer to the listed values, but it's not going to be the same as the original treadmill guts unfortunately. I never bothered, because I wanted to try the original power supply to see what the difference was, and it was huge! I really couldn't see that DLM box working much better because of it's physical size alone. So I'll use it for something else down the road I'm sure... But it does work for sure, just depends on what you want to use it for. I used mine on an old beast of a lathe with double cone pulleys and a leather flat belt, and the DLM was humming and would only make that motor run on there at about 20% compared to hooking it up using the original power supply and controls for the treadmill. The original made no overworking and struggling humming sounds at all, and it spun that thing way faster than it was supposed to spin I'm pretty sure! Both struggled with the initial starting and spinning, but that lathe is over 100 years old and HUGE, which had a big 220v motor on it, but I can't read and into off of it unfortunatly, and I can't even find any info online about it... Anyway, I just wanted to let people know that I tried the DLM box from the video, and it worked, but only at a fraction of what the original treadmill could do with that 2hp motor of mine!

[@TheXscorpius]

Thanks for this review, loved this video..👍🏻👍🏻

[@ianharris7977]

Hi Steve excellent video. I notice when you connect up the mains supply there is only a live and neutral connection and the earth is redundant. I presume it doesn’t need earthing. Best wishes Ian

[@bushratbeachbum]

Any chance of a look inside the box? Looking like a very useful piece of kit. Cheers fella!!

[@SteveJordan]

Absolutely

[@paullabounty1841]

Thanks for the helpful information

[@davidclark1222]

Hi Steve. I have stripped down a dc motor off of a wobble machine. I can get the anti vibration washers back between the housing and bearing. Ant ideas?

[@salesianumschool9337]

when connecting AC (I'm assuming it's 110) does it matter what wires you connect? I see no + or - designation. I have one and I don't want to blow mine up? What color wire represents the return and what color represents the hot wire? Is brown hot?

[@carlmason983]

Looks good, I believe them type of motors are very magnetic. Have you suffered with swarf being attracted to the motor ?

[@drmertes58]

Another Great and Interesting video Steve ! Dan in the USA

[@angelleal3005]

Why was it measuring crazy high rpm when you were gradually reducing the speed on the control unit ?

[@tomnorton8218]

Steve, I am considering this for my wood lathe. But have a cooling question. There does not appear to be any type of fan blade. Is this a problem?

[@shaunwhiteley3544]

Thanks for this, unfortunately the speed controller is out of stock. I do already have one but it’s already in use on another project, I knew I should have bought 2 😀. Cheers

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Shaun they should restock fairly soon. I hope to buy some more in the future. They are excellent units.

[@user-pz1ds7ty3u]

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[@JosephLorentzen]

You got a data sheet with the unit? I thought the PW might be a way for using the PWM portion.

[@blacksmith9451]

Best thing about the treadmills is that people barely use them Steve. 😂

[@SteveJordan]

They are normally used a few times after the xmas puddings have all gone☺

[@kevinkeelan354]

What is the lowest usable rpm with this controller and a treadmill motor?

[@intelligenceservices]

in a DC motor, would the black/negative wire have continuity with the motor's chassis?

[@ZUPERZERIO]

this motor controller function with ACIM motor (without brush ) ???

[@billboat10]

I have done this mod on my lathe just the controler and it's now tripping the breakers any idea please

[@Z-Ack]

Whats a dlm? Thats a new one to me. Sounds like its too low powered for my needs.. 400w wont quite do it.. need at least 5500 watts.. big o dc motor im trying to drive without all the noise/ interference…

[@darrenwest6]

Hi Steve, I have a similar motor for a project I am tinkering with 200w dc 10mm output from ebay, but when you put any resistance up the motor just hasn't got the guts unless you have it top speed. Any ideas to lower speed but raise torque any ideas where to get a gearbox to fix this?

[@antresia.9723]

I took out the motor from the portable air conditioner yesterday it's a small one.it is a LS-65T3-4P motor 115v-220v 1.1A it has four wires,red orange,yellow and blue.I want to run it on dc so I don't know which wire is the negative and postive output.

[@chucknSC]

I doubt an air conditioner motor would be a brushed DC motor, which is what this is involving.

[@mikedyson2948]

Help needed please? I have fitted this motor to a potters wheel which seems fine except I have some sort of residual current left in the system after switch off giving Quite a shock from the mains plug terminals. The machine is well earthed I believe. Note the switch is not the same as the one shown but was bought with the ebay kit. I would also like to know what size fuse it takes in case of need to replace. Appreciate your advice, thanks, mike

[@markrosinski4814]

when the motor is switched off but still turning from momentum, it works as generator and generating power if the motor is permanent magnet motor, 2nd possibilitie, there are capacitors in the power supply which can hold charge after switching off the system

[@Captainwonderlad]

Is it cooling down there yet? It's hotter than hell here in Florida. It's actually only paradise in the fall and winter.

[@SteveJordan]

I'm i the UK. It is like a summers day here at the moment about 20c.

[@teresashinkansen9402]

Were i can get one of this motors? your links no longer work

[@rogermaury7722]

Treadmill motors in the range of 1.5hp to 2.5hp will produce between 1000 to 2300 watts (up to 18amps). How can this 400 watts DLM speed control unit control 1kw treadmill motor?

[@user-wn9mn1be4u]

great video

[@michaelmurray946]

what hp is it the one im using is 2.5 yours has to be atleast 3hp

[@sajiktm]

it seems the dc voltage is not pure dc... because its seems humming ..... whether we could save tredmills with this kind of idea.... a lot of tredmills are thrown away due to defective electronic speed control cercuits.

[@embitnawai3190]

Boss,how many watts do you use?

[@iprangem]

Hi, would a capacitor to stop the 50 herts hum?

[@ramac1191]

Hi Steve can we use DLM speed control for remote switch on/off with direction control

[@kookyflukes9749]

That control unit: Id like to use it for my DC motor. It is rated at 3.5A and it says 2000w but I have been assured that this is a Chinese exaggeration and in fact it is only 500w. The control unit is for up to 400w would it still be alright to use with 500w motor?

[@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738]

I don't Know if it's the camera picking up the whine from the motor . But This would drive me round the bend after a while. From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.

[@SteveJordan]

Its because the sound is resonating through the wooden table top and exagerated by the microphone. When its on the lathe its dead quiet.

[@tinkermouse-scottrussell3738]

That now makes sense! thanks for the quick return.

[@AtticusDraco]

Nice show,, thanx for sharing How are those setups on generating heat? Especially for prolong periods at low rpms and high?

[@SteveJordan]

Hi I wouldn't use it for long periods unless I set up a simple fan cooling unit. I have just bought some excellent new low cost fully adjustable heat sensor thermostat shut off switches from China to try sometime. I have tested the motors for what I would use them for, short milling ops and they stay cool.

[@johnevans713]

hi steve ... i have a childrens carousel and the old fashioned long bar wire wrapped resistor has broken, ive bought a 4000w 220v AC speed controller ... the motor on the carousel is 110v DC 3 wire brush thus i will run the wiring through a rectifier and transformer ... i want to be able to slow start the motor to one slow speed and then switch to anothe higher speed ,.. how can i change the varaible speed control which comes as standard to a 2 fixed speed switch .. i noticed at the end of your video you were able to use a remote to choose pre set speeds , i dont want a remote just a switch by the way ..

[@SteveJordan]

Hi, To be honest I really don't know. I only have basic electronic knowledge. Each project I have done, like this one, I have only learned what I have needed to know for the electronic components used at the time. There must be a simple way to achieve what you want, so hopefully someone will read these comments and come up with the answer. Regards Steve

[@Tattoo0330]

I want to know about rpm of motor

[@matt1343able]

Hello.thanks for sharing this clip i have a question if you do not mind ,i have a 1/3 hp 110v motor , does this speed control work with the motor that I have?

[@electromechanicalstuff2602]

No this is for dc motors only

[@ufukvarlk8054]

Hi, Can you show control circuit? SCR or IGBT controlled ?

[@trevsmith4605]

Hello Steve, I bought the exact same DLM box and fitted it to my 220v 380w lathe but when i switched it on the there was a loud humming and the lathe barely turned on full can you think why this might be?

[@SteveJordan]

I know they have made the same DLM control units with different voltages. You could check the output with a multimeter to see if it's correct but apart I really don't know. I only have basic electronic knowledge. Regards Steve

[@heron1945]

Im looking for a new motor for my Taig lathe. Do you or any of your viewers think that this is a suitable motor?

[@SteveJordan]

I would have to try it to be certain, so I can't say. I hope to show another 500W treadmill motor set up that will be available soon on Ebay as well.

[@Titanis2000]

This would work great

[@rogerhalcrow2358]

Hi was wondering if either of the speed controls could be used on the mini lathe as they are cheaper than a new board

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Roger, I reckon they would be fine. If I hadn't converted my mini lathe to belt drive I would have tried this one. I have several different speed controllers from Banggood now and all seem really positive and reliable. Plus the prices are affordable.

[@rok1475]

Does this controller have a circuit to increase current under load? How does the whole setup perform under load?

[@SteveJordan]

It doesn't have that circuit as far as I know, but these motors are have excellent torque at all speeds.

[@hectorgerco2963]

hi steve , can i ruin a angle grinder if I reduce the speed with common speed reducer , I live in a 220 V country , thank you

[@SteveJordan]

Hi I really don't know. I only have basic electronic knowledge. Regards Steve

[@sieyuming1003]

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[@run66]

steve was this the 200 w motor or 500 w ? thank you

[@SteveJordan]

I put it on both without any problems.

[@tomhorn9460]

how to slow 12dc motor down . its a winch motor and need big wireing i. it turns to fast for my use thank you

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Tom maybe someone else will answer. I only have basic electronic knowledge. Regards Steve

[@ozguroztu]

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[@areyoutubed]

Do you have an idea how to remove the noise from the potentiometer?

[@waltparkhurst2494]

What's all the motor hum

[@peacemak3rAL]

Dear friend will work for a treadmill motor?? With: Modell: 100ZYT1A Spannung: 180V DC Strom: 12,2 A Leistung: 3hp ca. 2230 W Umdrehungen: 4500 rpm Isolierung: B

[@SteveJordan]

I think the wattage is too high on your motor. Yo will need a VFD for that one.

[@SteveJordan]

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[@SteveJordan]

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[@swapnil7231]

Sir can you please send me lathe Chuck for small lathe because I want to build mini lathe From India

[@hugobose2254]

Shame I cant get a DLM for a 1280w 180v dc motor from a treadmill :-(

[@hugobose2254]

@nuff said not in the UK no

[@kelvinwright6598]

Hi Steve do you have a website or any other way i can contact you please

[@SteveJordan]

Hi Kelvin. I do not have a website. People normally contact me through my google+ page.

[@zincisulfati5305]

I'm no expert, but this looks like a e-scooter motor and not treadmill one. I could not find any references for CBK-v02 controller.

[@SteveJordan]

No this is a small treadmill motor from an exercise machine. The links for the controller etc are above

[@piecetoyou8285]

Hi, I do not understand much about the electric motors I just can not get my head around it all, does not matter how much I try, its like I have a mental block with the wiring stuff ,I think because there are so many types and voltage ,and so many different AC/ DC / and both if wired correct with converters single phase / 3 phase/ brushless / non brushless/ induction motors etc the list just goes on and on its so confusing, how on earth does anyone go about educating there self in there 50s who loves making machines but comes stuck when it comes to powering them, I built a big knife belt grinder and because I don`t have a clue on speed controlling a motor I am having to make a step down pully system that makes the machine even bigger, I have a great respect for people who have the ability to know what to do with electric motors, I do under stand slightly DC and AC motors function when watching vids But the wiring and working out the voltage voltages that`s where My head just goes off into space, And then we get told certain non brush motors can be used with speed reduction control but this is not good for the motor, And you here motors get converted to from DC brushless to AC where power goes off and on but the motor don`t sound correctly mind boggling

[@ClownWhisper]

I can't find this dlm in 110v! I need this set up badly!

[@SteveJordan]

I've had a look but I can't find one at the moment. The other option would be to use a low cost transformer. Regards Steve

[@beardedswordsman2901]

Amazon has the same exact setup it's a different name it's a samgold controller

[@apollorobb]

The chopper circuit in that controller is going to kill that PMDC motor you shouldn't ever hear 50hz hum in a PMDC motor it will heat the windings over time

[@SteveJordan]

Hi It is all exaggerated noise. It is resonating through a thin wooden table top and picked up by the sensitive camera mic. Also I'm in a small metal shed. When I pick the motor up or place it on a solid ,metal surface operating at any speed, one cannot hear any hum at all. It is dead quiet. You will see this when I use it.

[@zaal8089]

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[@rok1475]

Measuring RPM of a motor like this with this type of speed controller ( one without a feedback loop from a motor) is pointless. The speed under load will change with load. With the right combination of load and power DC motors can turn much lower than 300 RPM. In contrast original treadmill controller is designed with a closed loop feedback so the motor spins at constant speed regardless of load. Therefore original controller is better for use in power tools and machines. They increase or decrease power as the load changes. The only downside is that as a safety feature you always have to start the motor at zero and dial the controller to desired speed. But then that speed is maintained by the controller under varying load, which is typical operating condition for machines and power tools.

[@robertriggers5216]

These controller's are junk 3.3 amps or 400watts treadmill motors are mostly 15amp to 20amp .

[@SteveJordan]

Well it works perfectly on all my treadmill motors. I think they are excellent.

[@paklos99]

Talk faster, less creepy hand gestures and the goblets are just weird! Other than that, good job!

[@SteveJordan]

I think I talk faster in my newer videos. It depends how I feel at the time plus I don't know whether my medication affects this at times. Regards Steve