Steven Crowder: The Early Years

Steven Crowder has always been pretty bad, but I thought it would be interesting to delve into his past to see just what he was like way back when he started on KZbin close to fifteen years ago. A lot of this commentary focuses on the past, though I do check in with more recent information as a point of comparison.
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[@dunjunart]

when crowder said "catholics and protestant christians can live together, no problem" i laughed really hard, has he just never heard of ireland before in his life or

[@wednesdaybell3062]

My exact reaction. I literally had to pause the video to laugh out loud. I knew he was dumb, but I didn't know he was THAT dumb.

[@DebatingWombat]

Or, you know, the 30 Years’ War…

[@OdyTypeR]

When crowder attempts to reconcile factual reality with his misinformed worldview, he has _troubles_

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@DebatingWombat The house of Orange...

[@theomegajuice8660]

Mate, my Dad's parents were referred to as a "mixed marriage" because one of them was Catholic and one of them was Protestant. His mum converted to Catholicism a few years after they married and they ended up leaving Ireland (rather ironically moving to England) because her family were so hostile about it!

[@namedhuman5870]

Calling Crowder a comedian is so generous it deserves massive tax breaks.

[@JeremiahWdabullfrog]

If he doesn't make you laugh, that's on you, bud.

[@commentingisawasteoftime7195]

​@@JeremiahWdabullfrogno. That's still on the comedian.

[@Mystrohan]

@@JeremiahWdabullfrog No. If a comedian doesn't make you laugh, that's on the comedian. You are not obligated to find another human being funny.

[@BlueGamingRage]

There is nothing wrong with appealing to a niche. I guarantee that the people who enjoy Crowder don't enjoy the talking heads you find funny

[@Jiggerjaw]

I laugh at his comedy several times a week. He's hilarious.

[@Pluveus]

Unable to break into Hollywood is a surprisingly common preface to right wing commentators biographies.

[@TheSalamanderMenace4]

This might be a rare crowder w (albeit unintentionally) given how screwed up Hollywood is lol

[@pgplumsparkle]

@@TheSalamanderMenace4looks like you can’t get enough of that Shapiro sausage 🌭

[@user-vk5yi9ym9b]

@@pgplumsparkle Why are dirtbag leftists like you always immediately going to sex when someone attacks your sacred cows? "Oh, you don't like Hollywood? I bet you like dick instead!"

[@skippythealien9627]

is it any fucking surprise these talentless bozos couldn't hack it at all, and then naturally blame Hollywood's "liberalism" for why they couldn't reach the top?

[@Lucretia916]

@@pgplumsparkledude is like 16 years old lmao give him a break he didn’t even say anything about Shitpiro

[@JoseBird]

This version is a reupload from an earlier version that had a serious error in it. Apologies for the mistake! If there any errors that aren't serious, please don't let me know, lol

[@habb420]

mind specifying what that error was?

[@WilliamStoneContentZone]

What was the error?

[@JoseBird]

The short version is: bad terms to describe disabled people and a historical claim I was a bit too reductive about. There are more details in a community post.

[@kezia8027]

@@JoseBird Thank you for owning your mistake and taking a proactive stance to do better! This is the good shit

[@isaacbear7115]

There is a major mistake in this video too That mistake is Steven Crowders career

[@davidjordan697]

Stephan claims he was spanked and it didn’t do him any harm. Experts claim it make children angrier, manipulative and more aggressive. Stephan is also known for emotionally abusing his bare foot and pregnant wife, so I’ll leave it to you to figure out who’s right.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

There's a direct link between Scientology Trump and the techniques used by these right wing grifters, who also tie to NXIVM (Elon promoted it) Epstein (Trumps best friend for twenty years) and Saville (friends of the Queen whom Peterson and Piers defend) They're also all Catholic, many are Opus Dei Scientology is training these people in the tactics of brainwashing Scientology is what MK Ultra became and probably run by the CIA, and Opus Dei, which is basically the same thing. They're also all Catholics They use a known hatespeech incitement technique also called Gaslighting aka Grooming. Also accusation in a mirror, which they do it in Cults like Scientology and NXIVM, then boost and astroturf with bots and trolls farms. israel does the same thing to control the narrative. Trump, Barr, Bannon, Cippolone, Gore, Guiliani, Leo, Alito, Thomas, and Barrett are all Opus Dei. Trump trained alongside Epstein and Roger Stone under Roy Cohn, who used kids to blackmail politicians on behalf of Mossad. Cohn trained under Meyer Lansky, who trained under Hoover. Robert Mercer and Rupert Murdoch are both Knights of Malta. Saville, Bezos, Gates, Koch, Rogan, Walsh, Crowder, Kirk, Fuentes, Dore, Knowles, Kulinksi, Ball, Iverson, Icke, Woods, Watson, Cernovich, Abbott, Jones, Robinson, Woods, Pool, Rubin, Peterson, Posobeic, Duke, Molyneux, Yilanopouse, Gionet, Richardson, Tillerson, Greene, Manaforte, Flynn, Ducey, Acosta, Attwood, Stone, Pence, Desantis, Meadows, Trump, Eastman, Black, Kerik, Melania, Barr, Bannon, Hawley, Gingrich, Abrams, Comey, Cuomo, Kerry, Abrams, Gore, Spencer, Blassio, Pompeo, Bolton, McCarthy, Nugent, Cruz, Rubio, Gaetz, Santos, Tucker, Gutfield, O'Reilly, Beck, Scarborough, Devos, Kasich, Mercer, Murdoch, Rosschild, Ingram, Kelly, Lake, Conway, Coulter, Huckabee, McEnany, Hannity, Spicer, Christie, Prager, Maher, Colbert, Corbett, Hayes, Biden, Harris, Fauci, Pelosi, Menendez, Pirro, Manchin, Cooper, Maddow, AOC, Newsom, Uyger, Dawkins, Hitchens, Hancock, Sitchin, Ventura, Morgan, Cowell, Farage, Johnson, May, Merkel, Blair, Cameron, Brown, Blair, Mogg, Benjamin, Trudeau, Putin, Bolsanaro, Stalin, Lenin, Tito, Trotsky, Hitler. Special mentions (adjucants): Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Miller, Watters, Greenwad, Blumenthal, Maté, Camp, Brand, Loomer, Shapiro, Thatcher, Bush, Obama, Merkel, Greer, Summers, Silverstein, Adelson. Greenblatt. Wexner. Also Hindu Nationalists Ramaswamy, Tulsi, Haley, Hirsi, DeSouza, Modi etc. Merrick Garland's mentor of 40 years Jamie Gorelich helped Ivanka and Kushner (Mossad) dodge nepotism laws while in the WH. Kushner paid three times the market for 666 5th ave (prev National Jehovah's Witness HQ) which was previously owned by Carlyle Group owned by Bush, and was the site of a Truck Bomb detonation in 2001. Jesuitism: cunning; deceit; deceptive practices to effect a purpose; subtle argument; -- an opprobrious use of the word Jesuitism is a label given to particular casuistic approach to moral questions and problems often described by the adjective jesuitical, so called because it was promoted by some Jesuits of the 17th century rather than being the beliefs of the Society of Jesus as a religious order. The word seems to have been used for the first time in 1622. Jesuitism is not a systematically developed Moral Theology school, but some Jesuit theologians, in view of promoting personal responsibility and the respect of freedom of conscience, stressed the importance of the 'case by case' approach to personal moral decisions and ultimately developed and accepted a casuistry where at the time of decision, individual inclinations were more important than the moral law itself. It has been described as an attempt to achieve holy ends by unholy means. Blaise Pascal, the French mathematician, religious philosopher and Jansenist sympathiser, vigorously attacked the moral laxism of such Jesuits in his famous Lettres provinciales of 1656-57. It is also at odds with official Church doctrine. Although Vatican II does stress the primacy of conscience. popularly regarded as an attempt to achieve holy ends by unholy means, but really and radically the apotheosis of falsehood and unreality to the dethronement of faith in the true, the genuine and the real, a deliberate shutting of the eyes to the truth, a belief in a lie in the name of God, a belief in symbols and formulas as in themselves sacred, salutary, and divine, fiction superseding fact, and fancy faith in God or the divine reality of things, the embodiment of the genius of cant persuading itself to believe that that which is not is, while atheism, on the other hand, tries to persuade itself to believe that that which is is not. Trump (also Triumph) Etymology: late Middle English: from Old French triumphe (noun), from Latin triump(h)us, probably from Greek thriambos ‘hymn to Bacchus’ (Saturn). Current senses of the verb date from the early 16th century. The word comes from the Latin triumphus which is an "achievement, success, procession for a victorious general or admiral." The jury's still out on whether it comes from the Greek thriambos, as a "hymn to Dionysus," but it's fun to imagine that a triumph is a song to the Greek god of party animals. ceremony attending the entering of Rome by a general who had won a decisive victory over a foreign enemy magnificent and imposing ceremonial performed in honor of a victor. (obsolete) Any triumphal procession; a pompous exhibition; a stately show or pageant. Trump: fabricate, devise," 1690s, from trump "deceive, cheat" (1510s), from Middle English trumpen (late 14c.), from Old French tromper "to deceive," of uncertain origin. Apparently from se tromper de "to mock," from Old French tromper "to blow a trumpet." Brachet explains this as "to play the horn, alluding to quacks and mountebanks, who attracted the public by blowing a horn, and then cheated them into buying ...." The Hindley Old French dictionary has baillier la trompe "blow the trumpet" as "act the fool," and Donkin connects it rather to trombe "waterspout," on the notion of turning (someone) around. Connection with triumph also has been proposed. Related: Trumped; trumping. Trumped up "false, concocted" first recorded 1728

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

I’m asking this not in a rhetorical way, just a normal one. Is there a difference for the degree of spanking, like obviously punching and using the belt like how abuse often is portrayed is not good, but what about just a quick spank like slapping their butt once? My mom did that. She never physically abused me or whooped me to the point like her parents did her (had absolute monsters for parents), but she did a single spank with just her hand on my butt if I was being extremely snotty as a kid, does that count? I don’t think it should qualify in the way that having a drunkard parent who takes out their anger on you should, because I was only spanked in the situation where I was being a spoiled kid, something pretty rare for me. and when it happened only one strike to the behind. I could be wrong though, could I have the name of the study so I can check myself? I wanna know for the sake of my own future kids, this isn’t a take agreeing with crowder in any way

[@stick6969]

@@cantthinkofaname5046 i would say , the lesson YOU got from being humbled by a 'pat on the bottom' could easily be taught by you verbally, evidenced by you being able to describe what you were supposed to learn without spanking your computer. parents who are afraid of their kids and don't know how to come up with good enough explanations of actions and consequences boil it down to "do it this way/dont do this or i'm going to hit you" and leave it at that until 18.

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

@@stick6969 she did explain herself, she only did it when that didn’t work and like I said that was rare. I don’t think you actually read the point. My mom isn’t perfect but your analogy with the computer is very weird. Kids are not always going to listen even if it’s a perfect explanation that is reasonable; they’re still people who can be stubborn in the face of logic that should be indisputable. Kids can CHOOSE to be or do wrong after you explain something to them. You should always talk first, and you should never hurt your child, but a spanking when you’ve run through everything else doesn’t feel wrong to me. It’s a last resort, and you should never go too far, but other than that I don’t see the issue. Remember, I’m making a distinction between beating your child and using correction as an excuse to cover up how you’re abusing your child to get your anger out; and the common parenting practice of spanking for when a kid does something wrong even as you explained it to them why it’s wrong using it as consequences in the same way you use a time out. I’m not going to say spanking is great for children, I’m wanting to see the actual study so I can be sure if it isn’t. In the end I’m not a professional, this is just my opinion from my own experience, I’m asking for the original study so I can see what they specifically mean by spanking. If I’m wrong I’ll genuinely admit it. Its just I need to read the context myself so I can have a better understanding.

[@MustardSkaven]

Nonsense. Children go through different stages of morality and at a certain stage, a physical correction is the most efficient one. Yeah, beating on a 15 year old isn't going to be great since they are beyond that moral stage but a slipper to the buttocks for a 6-7 year old is the best way to correct poor behaviour.@@stick6969

[@benjaminrubin2178]

I forget who, but someone on Twitter once said that Steven Crowder was the Doug Walker of conservatives, and there is no better evidence for that than his early work.

[@TheMadTurtle]

I know Doug did some heinous stuff but... You know what, forget it...

[@Togro1990]

Steven Crowder’s The Wall when

[@na8291]

​@Togro1990 hed probably think the stuff happening in 'in the flesh' and 'run like hell' are unironically good

[@antlerbraum2881]

That’s very accurate

[@Methlab]

A WOKE CREDIT CARD?!?

[@ThePinkMan]

The "tough guy" act is unbearably pathetic, especially when he's simultaneously trying to play the victim. Him challenging the middle-aged union guy to an MMA fight was more embarrassing than him getting punched in the first place.

[@abetterhandle]

Even more hilarious when considering all the times he's willingly dressed as a woman, yoga pants and all

[@TiocfaidhArLa34]

don't fuck with unionized workers. ever. this man should know that.

[@Hamieee]

​@@TiocfaidhArLa34especially don't fuck with ironworkers, they attack in packs

[@HESAYYOUABRADERUNNER]

Every single adult I've ever heard defend violence against children as a form of discipline says "I got spanked and I turned out just fine". It's pretty funny that Crowder is the first person to say "and I deserved it", because even he knows him defending spanking based on the man it turned him into would immediately undermine his argument. Also weirdly Freudian explanation

[@CavinLee]

If you do research on spanking it’s very disgusting. It makes blood rush to your genitals and it’s just gross the thought of a parent wanting to do that to a child because its shown to trigger sexual triggers. I don’t remember all the details off the top of my head, but it’s just yuck.

[@user-gp5yz5yz4x]

​@@CavinLee That is the strangest argument against spanking I have ever heard. I really doubt it's intended to be sexual for most adults, despite some making it sexual in their later life

[@quinn7427]

​@@CavinLee yeah AND it's abusive physically? Not just sexually? And is correlated strongly with worse mental health outcomes as well as material conditions later in life?

[@legoboy468]

I always forget that crowder is only 36. His politics, vibe, and looks always make me think he’s a good 10 years older

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

Dear god, I'm 4 years older than he is. But it's actually embarrassing that someone of his age still behaves like an angry teenage boy.

[@optillian4182]

Funny. His sense of humor is that of someone 20 years younger.

[@darwinism8181]

In Arthur he literally participated in a storyline where he was utterly incapable of standup and didn't want to admit it. Life imitates art.

[@halinaqi2194]

Lmao, the writers of kids shows back in the day were at the top of their game XD

[@gooeydude574]

@@halinaqi2194some still are

[@saininj]

Based Arthur writers!

[@CascadianRanger]

I love how you typically don't even sound upset or angry in these types of videos. You come across more as just disappointed in these people

[@netanelaker4437]

I don't know how he does it. I'm a pretty chill guy but if I had to cover these freaks... oh boy. Massive props to Jose.

[@miguelvelez7221]

This guy and Robert Evans of Behind The Bastards... Rough self appointed gig for one's own psyche for sure.

[@mrj3217]

No he just slams one political side. Look the other side is OK with men Participating in women's sports as if this is just normal. It's not fair to women. Or saying during the BLM Riots of 2020 are mostly peaceful while the city was destroyed and on fire. All the lefty podcast on KZbin who are just doing all they can just to go the other way. Oppressive policing is just as bad as no arrest unless it's a murder that was commited live in front of 3 cops and recorded. The middle cover the crazy in general.

[@spenser9908]

Eww the creepy elitism of the left really is sinister.

[@SuperRat420]

Leftists need to be angrier and need to start throwing punches, actually

[@myyo7045]

I THOUGHT THE WHOLE "DUDE GREW UP IN CANADA AND PLAYED THE BRAIN ON ARTHUR" WERE JOKES PEOPLE SAID TO TEASE HIM OH MY GOD LMAOO

[@Coopersville]

Made fun? Arthur is based.

[@lemurwrench6344]

Tease him? steven brags about it.

[@maladavek]

Haha him criticizing Islam because women "have no power" to divorce is rich, considering now that he's been divorced, he complains that his wife shouldn't have the power to divorce him without his consent.

[@kwarra-an]

Conservatives of every stripe all agree on more things than they disagree on.

[@vlad5042]

cons love sharia they just hate that it gets done by the browns

[@thebigdawgj]

Islam is trash but it's right about women.

[@Reticence9zen924]

My mother did religious studies in her degree with an emphasis on Islam and her knowledge was that Islam doesn't give women a right to divorce but it does men. However I did a humanities degree and it came up that Islam does give females and males equal divorce rights.

[@maladavek]

@@Reticence9zen924 Ayy, nice, glad you learned the truth and can see through the BS talking points.

[@dlwseattle]

I refuse to accept anything Crowder has ever done to be humor or comedy

[@Owesomasaurus]

I mean, his entire life is one huge joke, so...

[@theargonianmercenary184]

Done? Agreed. Steven himself? The guy is the punchline.

[@elluchadork]

@@theargonianmercenary184 I’d get in a line to punch him 😂!!!

[@tennicksalvarez9079]

I mean ok?

[@voltron8375]

Okay groomer

[@CaptRed0]

That tent had women, children, the elderly, people in wheel chairs, a terminally ill child, human trafficking survivors, need I go on?

[@kezia8027]

Don't forget to mention the orphans, a whole kennel of up-for-adoption puppies and kittens, 7 unborn fetuses and a war veteran (who was convicted of war crimes but we won't mention that)

[@Bi0mega]

People never really talk about the 'failed comedian/entertainer-to-right-wing grifter' pipeline, and it really deserves to be looked at more.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

There are so many fucking "X to alt right pipelines" that we should just condense them to their common thread, "the devalued but not oppressed pipeline".

[@HookedonChronics]

Reminds me of Adolf

[@saininj]

And all those Daily Wire nerds.

[@ksteiger]

You mean like Amy Schumer?

[@BlueTyphoon2017]

@@ksteigerI don’t know much about her, but if she’s conservative? Then yeah it’d make sense.

[@Cookie-uj3cb]

Oh my god. The cut to him yelling at his wife during his rant on Islam killed me. Bravo.

[@stretchedpaper]

Absolutely delighted by the hint of stank in your tone on the word "intentionally" in the sentence: "Unlike Crowder's other videos, this one is intentionally humorless." Just a flawless delivery

[@Batgirl219]

My favorite thing about that insult is I think Crowder would miss the insult.

[@Notllamalord]

Watching Steven crowder the “health guru” getting absolutely bowled over by an old union worker is hilarious

[@matthewgagnon9426]

Steve Chowderhead goes to the gym, the union guy has actually worked hard all of his life. That will get you a form more suited for actually fighting than the playing around that chucklehead has done.

[@PopeSixtusVI]

I was a long time viewer of the show and I find it amazing, in Hindsight, just how unhealthy he is. Half of the times he was standing on crutches and breathing heavy during shows, and there were constant interruptions around hospital visits.

[@ThePurpleclone]

I guarantee that brother has only eaten cheese curds for most of his life, and in fact resembles one, and still absolutely rocked someone almost twice his height. now that's union strong

[@sadmermaid]

A classic.

[@deanwoodward1353]

I think of that union guy frequently. I hope life has been good to him and he still gets beers bought and high fives for punching out Crowder.

[@FeministCatLadySpinster]

Steven Crowder is a horrible person. You can't change my mind. I can't believe he put this online - and that someone saw it, and thought, "yes, we should give this man a job".

[@Misora7303]

Right wingers are so anticharismatic, that someone like Steven is the kind of guy you wanna see as a young and representative face for their movement

[@mj.l]

being a horrible person is an asset in the conservative media space

[@bethanychatman9531]

Well to be fair the "people" that saw his garbage and wanted to use are just like him.

[@naterambles8525]

Just finding out about conservatism, I take it??

[@IMPOTUSx2]

i have to say this: if it weren't for a certain 2x impeached, sexual-assaulting, 4x indicted, celebrity tycoon getting the highest office back in '16, then people like cold feet coward & the daily liar would NOT be as influential, let alone prosperous. you can't change my mind on that. crowder & shapiro & the like would be lucky to make double the current federal minimum wage in a clinton 2 or sanders presidency (especially if their approval rating averaged above 55%)!

[@namedhuman5870]

Steven Crowder, one of many people who claim spanking was fine for him and failing to realise that he is not fine at all.

[@vlad5042]

yeah i love when cranks and whackjobs try to pull the "well i turned out fine" card

[@TheMiniman42]

That “you used foul language in front of a woman” and “no daddy noooo” were 100% ripped from an Adam Sandler movie. I think mr.deeds

[@HobbiesGamesChillin]

So I just checked It was just stolen from Mr Deeds

[@ringer1324]

That union footage is embarrassing. Crowder really used a brief fight to make himself a martyr.

[@princequestly2218]

He’s a weakling.

[@thexalon]

Also, the fact that he's clearly afraid of a guy who appears to be in his late 50's and not in any way a trained fighter. Conservative space seems to be full of guys who pretend they're all tough, but the moment they actually face a real challenge they can't handle it.

[@BarkleyBCooltimes]

>conservative Internet person tried to get into Hollywood and failed before becoming popular online I'm tired of this villian origin story.

[@kingcobraarchie]

it's both nice to hear that he wasn't on the left before being turned to the right by something but also upsetting that he's been believeing these horrible things his whole life

[@ninaschust3694]

He was riding the same wave as Ben Shapiro. Ben seems to know that he is evil but he loves money... It's both bad.

[@kingcobraarchie]

@@ninaschust3694 at least Ben knows he's evil, Steven thinks he's in the right

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

It's how right wing propaganda works, it's a hatespeech incitement technique also known as Gaslighting aka Grooming Also accusation in a mirror, which they do it in Cults like Scientology and NXIVM, then boosted with bots and trolls farms. Trump, Barr, Bannon, Cippolone, Gore, Guiliani, Leo, Alito, Thomas, and Barrett are all Opus Dei. Trump trained alongside Epstein and Roger Stone under Roy Cohn, who used kids to blackmail politicians on behalf of Mossad. Cohn trained under Meyer Lansky, who trained under Hoover. Robert Mercer and Rupert Murdoch are both Knights of Malta. Saville, Bezos, Gates, Koch, Rogan, Walsh, Crowder, Kirk, Fuentes, Dore, Knowles, Kulinksi, Ball, Iverson, Icke, Woods, Watson, Cernovich, Abbott, Jones, Robinson, Woods, Pool, Rubin, Peterson, Posobeic, Duke, Molyneux, Yilanopouse, Gionet, Richardson, Tillerson, Greene, Manaforte, Flynn, Ducey, Acosta, Attwood, Stone, Pence, Desantis, Meadows, Trump, Eastman, Black, Kerik, Melania, Barr, Bannon, Hawley, Gingrich, Abrams, Comey, Cuomo, Kerry, Abrams, Gore, Spencer, Blassio, Pompeo, Bolton, McCarthy, Nugent, Cruz, Rubio, Gaetz, Santos, Tucker, Gutfield, O'Reilly, Beck, Scarborough, Devos, Kasich, Mercer, Murdoch, Rosschild, Ingram, Kelly, Lake, Conway, Coulter, Huckabee, McEnany, Hannity, Spicer, Christie, Prager, Maher, Colbert, Corbett, Hayes, Biden, Harris, Fauci, Pelosi, Menendez, Pirro, Manchin, Cooper, Maddow, AOC, Newsom, Uyger, Dawkins, Hitchens, Hancock, Sitchin, Ventura, Morgan, Cowell, Farage, Johnson, May, Merkel, Blair, Cameron, Brown, Blair, Mogg, Benjamin, Trudeau, Putin, Bolsanaro, Stalin, Lenin, Tito, Trotsky, Hitler. Special mentions (adjucants): Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Miller, Watters, Greenwad, Blumenthal, Maté, Camp, Brand, Loomer, Shapiro, Thatcher, Bush, Obama, Merkel, Greer, Summers, Silverstein, Adelson. Greenblatt. Wexner. Also Hindu Nationalists Ramaswamy, Tulsi, Haley, Hirsi, DeSouza, Modi etc. Merrick Garland's mentor of 40 years Jamie Gorelich helped Ivanka and Kushner (Mossad) dodge nepotism laws while in the WH. Kushner paid three times the market for 666 5th ave (prev National Jehovah's Witness HQ) which was previously owned by Carlyle Group owned by Bush, and was the site of a Truck Bomb detonation in 2001. Jesuitism: cunning; deceit; deceptive practices to effect a purpose; subtle argument; -- an opprobrious use of the word Jesuitism is a label given to particular casuistic approach to moral questions and problems often described by the adjective jesuitical, so called because it was promoted by some Jesuits of the 17th century rather than being the beliefs of the Society of Jesus as a religious order. The word seems to have been used for the first time in 1622. Jesuitism is not a systematically developed Moral Theology school, but some Jesuit theologians, in view of promoting personal responsibility and the respect of freedom of conscience, stressed the importance of the 'case by case' approach to personal moral decisions and ultimately developed and accepted a casuistry where at the time of decision, individual inclinations were more important than the moral law itself. It has been described as an attempt to achieve holy ends by unholy means. Blaise Pascal, the French mathematician, religious philosopher and Jansenist sympathiser, vigorously attacked the moral laxism of such Jesuits in his famous Lettres provinciales of 1656-57. It is also at odds with official Church doctrine. Although Vatican II does stress the primacy of conscience. popularly regarded as an attempt to achieve holy ends by unholy means, but really and radically the apotheosis of falsehood and unreality to the dethronement of faith in the true, the genuine and the real, a deliberate shutting of the eyes to the truth, a belief in a lie in the name of God, a belief in symbols and formulas as in themselves sacred, salutary, and divine, fiction superseding fact, and fancy faith in God or the divine reality of things, the embodiment of the genius of cant persuading itself to believe that that which is not is, while atheism, on the other hand, tries to persuade itself to believe that that which is is not. Trump (also Triumph) Etymology: late Middle English: from Old French triumphe (noun), from Latin triump(h)us, probably from Greek thriambos ‘hymn to Bacchus’ (Saturn). Current senses of the verb date from the early 16th century. The word comes from the Latin triumphus which is an "achievement, success, procession for a victorious general or admiral." The jury's still out on whether it comes from the Greek thriambos, as a "hymn to Dionysus," but it's fun to imagine that a triumph is a song to the Greek god of party animals. ceremony attending the entering of Rome by a general who had won a decisive victory over a foreign enemy magnificent and imposing ceremonial performed in honor of a victor. (obsolete) Any triumphal procession; a pompous exhibition; a stately show or pageant. Trump: fabricate, devise," 1690s, from trump "deceive, cheat" (1510s), from Middle English trumpen (late 14c.), from Old French tromper "to deceive," of uncertain origin. Apparently from se tromper de "to mock," from Old French tromper "to blow a trumpet." Brachet explains this as "to play the horn, alluding to quacks and mountebanks, who attracted the public by blowing a horn, and then cheated them into buying ...." The Hindley Old French dictionary has baillier la trompe "blow the trumpet" as "act the fool," and Donkin connects it rather to trombe "waterspout," on the notion of turning (someone) around. Connection with triumph also has been proposed. Related: Trumped; trumping. Trumped up "false, concocted" first recorded 1728

[@idontwantahandlethough]

@@kingcobraarchie ...is that better, though? If I steal a poor families food while consciously _knowing_ that their children won't eat tomorrow because of me, is that better or worse than if I did it without knowing? Obviously, it's worse to do something wrong with full knowledge of your wrongdoing. In fact, I'd argue it's straight up evil! It's basically the only thing that's truly evil, and I don't think one can be truly evil without being conscious of their wrongdoing. Accordingly, I have *some* sympathy for people that grew up in a shit school system, surrounded by conservative nonsense, and now do not have the tools/knowledge to realize that they're being lied to (they obviously have some culpability in that because as members of society, we are all obligated to try to grow into the best versions of ourselves, and they're clearly not doing that). That doesn't apply to Steven Crowder because he's shouting his nonsense through a megaphone for millions of people, but for normal, stupid people. On the other hand, I have precisely zero sympathy for someone like Benjamin Shapiño. He's basically selling his soul for money. He's being wrong, on purpose, while knowing it will make the world a measurably worse place for years to come. Yeah, that's pretty much the definition of evil :/ When you have the intelligence/knowledge/education/whatever to know more than other people, that implicitly makes you responsible for doing the right thing (and thus not telling other people to do the wrong thing either). Note: this is not a defense of Steven Crowder, this is a condemnation of Ben Shapiño.

[@kingcobraarchie]

@@idontwantahandlethough I completely understood it wasn't on Steven's side, and you bring up some interesting points that made me think. For example, which would you count as worse, someone knowing spreading misinformation and has the slight possibility of learning if he has the incentive or someone who wholeheartedly spreads the evil they believe thinking it's the completely right thing to do. Interesting ideas on which of these two horrible people are the worse. And I agree with the first part that someone knowing stealing from children is worse than someone unknowingly doing it but I'm not sure if it extrapolates to all situations and trying to think where the limit might be, if there is one, is a strangely fun thought experiment. Thanks for making a non argumentative but still interesting response, I enjoyed it

[@christiankettlewell]

I was there unfortunately. I was raised conservative Christian and I was following Steven at 18, on KZbin in 2009. I thought he was funny and insightful but then I broke away from political content for a few years by 2011 and that’s when I got “woke” and realized he sucks. Ironically, it was my deployment to Iraq in 2010 that put me off politics.

[@christiankettlewell]

@harrisonashley1631 yes exactly. I worked closely with Iraqis and saw that I had been blinded by propaganda my whole life

[@antlerbraum2881]

Knew a conservative guy who went to Iraq and came back a leftist, seems to happen a lot, I guess it gives you a different perspective.

[@SarahWilk100]

As a marine vet who happens to be trans (never deployed when I was in 2016-2020) thank you for sharing a bit of your story on here!

[@krillin6]

​@@antlerbraum2881 many never leave the cult, sadly, and continue to believe the lies even after being coerced into murder. Cognitive dissonance is a heck of a drug.

[@bubbafett225]

@@christiankettlewellmy realization was early 2000s games like command and conquer generals and SB1070 targeting multiple family members that are dark skinned Puerto Ricans

[@lifeiswonderful22]

The dude voice-acted a smart 8yo and for the rest of his life thinks he's a genius.

[@aaronharvey5625]

For someone who literally made his career initially off of crying about how he was “assaulted by a thug Union worker” even though he didn’t find it important enough to report to police Steven crowder sure does tell people to stop crying and if a crime is done (r*pe, usually) to you that you should report it to police or it doesn’t matter.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

Steven Crowder, that's the guy that challenged Potholer54 to a climate change debate only to chicken out last minute.

[@LimeyLassen]

He doesn't want to debate people, he just wants to wrestle them.

[@kingalfred2014]

@@LimeyLassen He's fine with debating random people on the street who haven't done any kind of preparation. It's only when he's up against people who know what they're talking about that his yellow streak starts showing.

[@bitchywoman]

@@LimeyLassennah he just wants to repeat his dialogue tree to students so his dumb followers can feel like their ideas are “common sense”

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

They had a whole-ass civil war over that shit.

[@andu1854]

He only wants to debate when he is super prepared and no one else is… hence he always doesn’t use the footage of people Holding their own…

[@BlinkReanimated]

Crowder: "Protestants and Catholics live entirely harmoniously and peacefully side-by-side." Ireland:

[@MrPiccoloku]

Most of European history: "Well, isn't that cute?"

[@EggMan1066AD]

My buddy's dad has been kneecapped (By catholics) My other mates dad got kidnapped, and his home fire bombed (by the UVF) but yeah, perfect harmony over here.

[@lukasvolsan3933]

Wow. So he's the same age as me, he looks much better than me, he is a better speaker than me but in every other way I can confidently say I am a much better and happier person than he will ever be.

[@bethanychatman9531]

He most likely doesn't look better than you. However I agree that you are and will be happier than he could or will ever be.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

@@bethanychatman9531 I've known people like Crowder. They tend to be very angry, weak individuals who are deeply unhappy with themselves, though they'd never admit it let alone do anything to change it.

[@DungeonDad]

Devastated to know he was Brain on Arthur. That is fucking wild.

[@JoseBird]

If it helps, several kids played Brain over the years. He was only in a couple of episodes.

[@matthewgagnon9426]

You likely never even saw the episodes he was Brain in, he didn't keep the role for very long.

[@M1nt.n1te]

Seeing him young makes me sad… you see all the dumb kids now and hope they’re gonna get better but they could end up like him and just get much much worse :(

[@chilibeer3912]

Reminds me of that young girl who was on early KZbin who was essentially radicalized by 4chan by being on it from a way too young age and you can see it happen in real-time on her channel.

[@chadimirputin2282]

I find that pulling my own fingernails out and replacing them with pieces of broken glass more humorous than Steven chowders attempts at comedy.

[@unfortunately_fortunate2000]

scraping my fingernails across a chalk board is far more humorous than anything conservative "comedy" has ever produced

[@radschele1815]

Why did your so that? 😢 i can shut out crowder, but imagining what you described is worse 😭

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

​@@radschele1815 Using my head as a roll block for a fully laiden cargo truck would be more humorous than joke Steven has ever told.

[@AbhijeetMishra]

I wonder how much he pays/controls his employees who are in his podcasts with him, they laugh at everything he says even though 99.9% of it is extremely unfunny. It's like the laughter track in sitcoms, which becomes rather irritating, especially when they do it at every little "joke".

[@x0cx102]

@@AbhijeetMishra After his abuse of his wife became public, plenty of his former staff who worked for him on his podcasts came out with stories about him being a terrible person and doing sick things at work like pulling out his dick.

[@TheGlooga]

this would have been the funniest way to title an arthur retrospective

[@justjukka]

I do so very much hate "women and children" being spewed as though it's a natural occurrence. Protect children, cater to the elderly, and stop infantilizing women. In case it needs to be noted: None of that is directed at José.

[@thicccorgi6187]

"There were women and children in that tent!!!!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@MattEldritchHorror]

Yeah, I hate to say it but his Crowderhead's repeated use of it reminds me of the term "virtue signalling". And Considering how little he actually cares about women and children then this feels like a smokescreen or something.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

This. I despise the implication that women are helpless and need men to look after them like children with no agency.

[@hoominbeeing]

@@AngryReptileKeeper It's also an implication that men are disposable and less valuable than women. You'd be surprised how misandristic a lot of rightoids are. Does not hold a cake to leftoids, of course, but it's still bad.

[@JasonVoorheesFriday13th]

I used to watch Crowders videos back in 2016 and about a year into it he said that he was a comedian and I was genuinely shocked and didn't believe him as he had never made me laugh once.. I had the same reaction to finding out Joe Rogan was a comedian.

[@lberghaus]

Conservatism is the death of comedy.

[@drewdrewanan]

At least rogan isn’t trying to be funny on his show most of the time

[@TheCuriousWays]

Even with the very calm José voiceover, experiencing Crowder hurts my soul.

[@shaunbarrie2263]

I wonder if the Down Syndrome abortion debate would be as bad if North Americans had access to better medical support post birth? The American medical system seems so hard on disabled people that I imagine it could play a large part in a parent’s hesitation to bring a child into the world who might require extra care. It’s horrific that it costs so much to support your sick or disabled child in “the greatest country in the world”.

[@Toanleigh]

Couldn't you just look at countries that DO offer better healthcare in general, yes? Then check to see if the birthrates are higher/lower/same-ish, no?

[@quinn7427]

Material conditions and societal treatment of the future individual are among the strongest arguments in favor of the intentional abortion of a fetus with Down syndrome. Removing these barriers to the fulfilling life of a person with Down syndrome doesn't remove the rights of a woman to her own body, but I would personally like some type of legislstion against termination of pregnancy solely or mostly on the grounds of disability detection (in the absence of serious practical implications for the life of that person and those around them)

[@JARV9701]

Crowder, the saddest case of failling upwards.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

There's a direct link between Scientology Trump and the techniques used by these right wing grifters, who also tie to NXIVM (Elon promoted it) Epstein (Trumps best friend for twenty years) and Saville (friends of the Queen whom Peterson and Piers defend) They're also all Catholic, many are Opus Dei Scientology is training these people in the tactics of brainwashing. Scientology is what MK Ultra became and probably run by the CIA, and Opus Dei, which is basically the same thing. Their principle strategy is Gaslighting. Gaslighting, aka Grooming. Accusation in a mirror (AiM), mirror politics, mirror propaganda, mirror image propaganda, or mirror argument is a hate-speech incitement technique where one falsely attributes to one's adversaries the intentions that one has for oneself and/or the actions that one is in the process of enacting. It was used in Rwanda, Guatemala, Brazil, and Burma, with each case having ties to Mossad. Trump, Barr, Bannon, Cippolone, Gore, Guiliani, Leo, Alito, Thomas, and Barrett are all Opus Dei. Trump trained alongside Epstein and Roger Stone under Roy Cohn, who used kids to blackmail politicians on behalf of Mossad. Cohn trained under Meyer Lansky, who trained under Hoover. Robert Mercer and Rupert Murdoch are both Knights of Malta. Saville, Bezos, Gates, Koch, Rogan, Walsh, Crowder, Kirk, Fuentes, Dore, Knowles, Kulinksi, Ball, Iverson, Icke, Woods, Watson, Cernovich, Abbott, Jones, Robinson, Woods, Pool, Rubin, Peterson, Posobeic, Duke, Molyneux, Yilanopouse, Gionet, Richardson, Tillerson, Greene, Manaforte, Flynn, Ducey, Acosta, Attwood, Stone, Pence, Desantis, Meadows, Trump, Eastman, Black, Kerik, Melania, Barr, Bannon, Hawley, Gingrich, Abrams, Comey, Cuomo, Kerry, Abrams, Gore, Spencer, Blassio, Pompeo, Bolton, McCarthy, Nugent, Cruz, Rubio, Gaetz, Santos, Tucker, Gutfield, O'Reilly, Beck, Scarborough, Devos, Kasich, Mercer, Murdoch, Rosschild, Ingram, Kelly, Lake, Conway, Coulter, Huckabee, McEnany, Hannity, Spicer, Christie, Prager, Maher, Colbert, Corbett, Hayes, Biden, Harris, Fauci, Pelosi, Menendez, Pirro, Manchin, Cooper, Maddow, AOC, Newsom, Uyger, Dawkins, Hitchens, Hancock, Sitchin, Ventura, Morgan, Cowell, Farage, Johnson, May, Merkel, Blair, Cameron, Brown, Blair, Mogg, Benjamin, Trudeau, Putin, Bolsanaro, Stalin, Lenin, Tito, Trotsky, Hitler. Special mentions (adjucants): Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Miller, Watters, Greenwad, Blumenthal, Maté, Camp, Brand, Loomer, Shapiro, Thatcher, Bush, Obama, Merkel, Greer, Summers, Silverstein, Adelson. Greenblatt. Wexner. Also Hindu Nationalists Ramaswamy, Tulsi, Haley, Hirsi, DeSouza, Modi etc. The Pentagon Comptroller in 2001 was Dov Zakheim, who lost $4 trillion and whose company CPS installed remote hijack tech in the AA fleet in June 2001. Edward Snowden worked for Dov Zakheim and was bought to us by Glen Greenwald, who now rubs shoulders with Jesuit Agent Provocateurs Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan, whose mutual friend with Steven Crowder Brian Callen is the founder of Diligence, a spook Contractor to the CIA. Andrew Tate dated Peterson's daughter and Elon went to the same Jesuit University as Trump. Julian Assange helped Roger Stone and the Trump Campaign in 2016, being the first to suggest challenging the outcome if he lost, and asking to be made the Australian ambassador to the US. Margeret Sunbyrne, the head of the Sun Worship cult he was raised in was also protected by the CIA in the Australian Supreme Court, on grounds of "National Security" Trump paints himself Orange to represent Apollo. Aleister Crowley was also a master of mind control, and his Protege L Ron Hubbard was the founder of Scientology, which uses mind control tactics displayed in right wing media. They were also instrumental in Trump's conception as the Moon Child, born on a Super Wolf Blood Moon on June 14 700 days before the founding of Israel, who he gave sovereignty over the Golan heights on its 70th anniversary, and was inaugurated aged 70 years 7 months and 7 days old. June 14 is the birthday of Osiris, Known as the day of the Pharoah, as well as Jason Vorhees of Friday the 13th, associated with the Knights Templar. His insurrection came 14 days after a great conjunction of Saturn Jupiter and Uranus, on the Winter Solstice. June 14 is known as the Day of the Pharoah and correlates to the position of Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar. It's the exact date given by Aleister Crowley for the Moonchild. Scientology uses many of the same tricks as Religion to coerce consent, basically the whole Matrix pill nonsense, including isolation, Gaslighting and intimadation, these can also be seen in right wing propaganda, especially towards Palestinians. Peterson's hero's journey comes from the transit of the moon through the zodiac, which is why they're called months. Protocol 24; Blame the victim The strategy is to make the aggressor's feelings the goalposts, everything is oriented around their needs and approval; a war of attrition using subjective language and logical fallacies such as incredulity, which amounts to disbelief, and acting as if this belief is something the victim is responsible for. "Look what you made me do" *In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love” (for eg Patriotism, Christianity, Service). It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation. Ultimately the aim is to legitimise a worldview that is detached from reality, and therefore arbitrary. Now they can call evil good and good evil* *>>Trivializing:* *The victim’s feels are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.* (woke/ lib/ groomer/ infidel etc) *>>Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting.* *They **_directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._* *>>Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* by doing so they preemptively assume the role of an authority by proxy. *>>Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.* *>>No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity* is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to *protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample* by trying to _exclude the counterexample_ improperly. This is the Core of White Supremacist ideology. *"What Others Say" (Appeal to populism)* The abuser tells the victim what other people "think" about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole. Also known as an appeal to populism, the basis of Authoritarian Communism, and Cults, "if many believe it then it must be true" (whether people actually agree with the position and whether it is true or not). Bolshevism itself means "the Majority" and is no different to Fascist appeals to a "Moral Majority" Patriotism is a form of Authoritarian Communism. Other than direct contradiction and disbelief other strategies for Gaslighting include begging the question, and the use of Strawman arguments; refuting a reframed argument *different from the one actually under discussion* while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. Through the exercise of overwhelming a subject with countless contradicting premises and subjective terms a game of Pigeon Ch ess is played to deter criticism and break down a person's defences, until they no longer trust their own feelings, and rely solely on an outside source for direction. This is clearly demonstrated in the Maga cult, and is repeated in overly litigious dogma and the magical thinking of Evangelism, New Age Spirituality, Ancient Aliens, and Graham Hancock. Always alluding to a secret to be revealed, but always in vague nebulous terms and undefined benefits of a far away place with no means to verify one way or the other "Trust me bro" Effectively they all play the same role of an Enlightened Guru with deep understanding of esoteric matters who can solve all your problems. It's likely no coincidence Reagan emptied the mental health services in the US, over half of those in Jail and living on the streets have undiagnosed ADHD. Auyawasca and Psychotropics are also a staple in brainwashing, as is telling the target they've been brainwashed and that the Guru has the cure, right wing propaganda uses this language heavily by flipping the script and arguing they are the victims, that they're the ones being silenced and cancelled, that they oppose child abuse while also defending it, that the deep State is out to get them, when they're the Deep State and always have been. Aleister Crowley was a big advocate of using Psychotropics to brainwash, just like the CIA and MK Ultra. Other tricks include hand waving and holding them outspread in a "settle" gesture called pacing. They can also stare at an opponent, asserting dominance and putting the target on the back foot and unsure how to respond. They will also use rapid fire speech, and talk in an insulting or demanding tone, using loaded language and inference only to move the goalposts and reframe when challenged. These are the same strategies used in Kompromat and Honey pot operations, using leverage over an opponent and burdening them with a new language that excludes the more human aspects of existence, Newspeak. Trump's Mentor Roy Cohn admitted to using kids to blackmail opponents on behalf of israel, and trained under him alongside Epstein and Roger Stone. Trump's Jesuit mentor was Norman Vincent Peale, a 33rd degree Master Freemason He was born June 14 during a Blood Moon to Fred Christ and Mary McKleod

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Billionaire money backing him helps

[@btarczy5067]

The early years were his bad years. Then he caught a break and went on into his bad years followed by his bad years.

[@DeusEx_Machina]

True, but at least now he is in his bad years.

[@StalwartTirith]

Not sure if it started around his time or even earlier, but Crowder was definitely in the time where the right wing just really went all out in embracing purposeful ignorance. The less they show they know about a topic the more the right wing audience seemed to love them.

[@idontwantahandlethough]

Yup. I grew up in a conservative area going to Catholic school, and so obviously I was "a conservative" as a kid (I didn't know what that meant, but neither do most of them so whatever lol). Anyway, their complete lack of curiosity was what made me realize they were all full of it. I was lucky enough to know a few really cool, intelligent, compassionate adults, and every single one of them was driven by their curiosity. I would say it was their defining characteristic: they _-wanted-_ _needed_ to know things. They literally couldn't _not_ obsess over learning new things! And it's so, SO much worse now than it was back then. They're actively celebrating stupidity and ignorance at this point :/ Tbh, their irrational rage at "wokeness" would be absolutely hilarious if it wasn't just *_SO_* on the nose 😂. Uhhh yeah guys... we know you'd rather remain blissfully ignorant, the entire world is painfully aware of that reality.

[@miguelvelez7221]

I call this "The Pose Of Authenticity". Know Nothings require shorthand for just about everything. Once a signifier can be easily disseminated they latch on hard. Some can be expensive, like getting an obnoxious vehicle for no purpose other than to project machismo and strength. So too with embracing ignorance. Thing is, this is an almost universal marker wherever you go in the world. No nothing, religious zealots mostly found in the rural hinterlands of a nation who disdain intellectuals, practice free floating misogyny and xenophobia while eyeing everyone else in the country as "less than/sinful" for some reason, all covered in a glaze of hazy nostalgia for a mythic past that never really existed is the story of Authoritarian movements no matter the time, place or Ethnic background. It's an eternal struggle from the ancient world to today.

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

​@@miguelvelez7221it's a lot more prevalent tho, in countries with shite education systems, like the US that teaches compliance over critical thinking. It's devastating to a kids natural curiosity.

[@KotoCrash]

Oh and the left NEVER does this

[@miguelvelez7221]

@@KotoCrash Provide your example, if you can.

[@TheRepublicOfUngeria]

It can't be understated how ubiquitous Joker impersonations were back then. I am brought back to when an old evangelical freak: VenomFangX, did an absolutely unhinged Joker impersonation against Thunderf00t before Thunderf00t used the fact that VenomFangX filed a false DMCA against him as leverage to get him banned for a year rather than face legal prosecution.

[@gigiratliff5801]

One of my acquaintances from high school did a joker monologue for drama

[@Jakster840]

Remember when filing false DMCA's had more immediate consequences? I do.

[@WallabeeDeviant89]

VenomFangx....Thats a name I haven't heard in a while. Remember back in 2009 when he collected donations and lied giving it to a children's hospital?

[@caseyw.6550]

Huh???

[@syrupyourmaple8261]

lololol venomfangx, dawahfilms was even worse

[@SuperKripke]

11:54 this is extraordinary given he mocked the first Down syndrome Victoria's Secret Model.

[@TheDarthbinky]

Another fun op-ed he wrote that aged really, really well is the one where he talks about how his marriage is better than yours because he was celibate until he got married. That alone is hilarious, but he goes on to talk about how people mocked him for choosing to stay celibate until marriage but it begs the question... if people mocked you for that... how did they know about it? The implication is that YOU TOLD THEM. And yeah, you probably got mocked for it because acting like you're superior because you're choosing not to have sex is pretty stupid. And he ends the piece by proudly berating people (and he actually says he's proud of it) for having fun and drinking alcohol at their weddings. Because that's a hill that needs to be died upon.

[@JoseRS1186]

The whole thing with Pelosi Joker was a meme from the Tea Party days. FoxNews was pushing the idea that Nolan's Batman was a love letter to Bush and it became The Thing to make photoshops and caricatures of Pelosi, Clinton and Obama as The Joker.

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

You’ll not be able to explain anything to this guy, don’t bother.

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

Ah, before conservatives fetishized the idea of being the joker and still knew he was a villain

[@CentralPALocos]

Great video, I used to be fan of Steven crowder from around 2016-2018, I found his videos like many others did as a lonely teenage boy in high school. Luckily I found Kyle Kulinski in 2017 and watching his coverage of right wing goons like Crowder quickly showed me how dorky he really was

[@Kickiusz]

Congrats on becoming a better person!

[@Fuzzypotato2]

Similar to me. Jordan Peterson was fascinating to me, but thankfully I was watching Matt Dillahunty too.

[@decegrease]

​@Fuzzypotato2 yeah dude their conversation completely destroyed the idea of Peterson being some kind of intellectual lmao. That was years before his drug fueled breakdown. He just danced around questions with his cowardly language

[@CentralPALocos]

@@Fuzzypotato2I tried watching him in 2017 or so but he was just so boring to me. Later I saw Kyle reviewing his debate with Matt and realized how much of a clown he was

[@ninaschust3694]

Great to hear that 😊👍

[@thatfighterguy5846]

"FREEDOM OF SPEECH BLOCKER FREEDOM OF SPEECH BLOCKER" All I could think of was "Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being oppressed!"

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

What do you mean Crowder can't be funny? First he ran away from Sam Seder, then he got into a petulant feud with the Daily Wire, then his marriage fell apart. If that's not devotion to a bit, I don't know what is.

[@beegsquare4123]

Wait what happened with him and the Daily Wire, I would look it up but KZbin loves to recommend me alt-right stuff whenever I do go digging for that sort of thing

[@FrozEnbyWolf150]

@@beegsquare4123 The short of it is they offered him a $50 million contract over 4 years, but reserved the right to pull his content if it broke TOS since it would negatively affect their bottom line. He called it a slave contract and threw a tantrum over it. While it's true that contracts like this are exploitative under capitalism, it's the system he supports, and doesn't care about when it happens to regular people.

[@ikiry0830]

So Steven Crowder basicly started as Political Doug Walker. That's...a hell of a thought.

[@erikscottdebie7665]

I’m amazed how much younger Crowder looks just a few years ago. Man, evil really ages you, doesn’t it?

[@MrYago-xd7um]

Considering how long evil & rich live. Twas truly the heart bursting jugs of roids he chugged.

[@braidenb3973]

Hgh

[@joelsays2280]

Like the Sith 😂

[@rae-everything]

I'm aging like bread and kind.

[@SpectacularDisaster]

as does divorce

[@rustytoyota]

I sont like Steven. My Little Brother was SUPER deep into this rabbit hole. I blame him / the company that is him. For contributing to the fear my brother felt for the world.

[@ImOwenWilson]

You failed as an older brother

[@q_likes_birds]

​@@ImOwenWilsonThat is absolutely uncalled for.

[@ImOwenWilson]

@@q_likes_birds so putting your younger brothers struggles on the internet for complete strangers after you failed your ONE JOB as in older brother Gfys

[@zed739]

​@@ImOwenWilsonyou failed as a social organism

[@theargonianmercenary184]

@@ImOwenWilson what a sad, sad person you have to be to spew such puke.

[@duck2477]

With the extended footage of the assault, it sure as hell looks like Crowder's left arm is behind the guy as he starts to "fall". Being so proud about how he does BJJ, it sure looks to me like he tripped the dude and pushed him down. Why else would he be actively holding his hands up when he falls, like some very fake "it wasn't me" the moment it happens.

[@resident-evil-jerma5389]

his first producer being pro-trans, even though he’s conservative, is nearly unthinkable today. there are so few pro-trans conservatives and most of them are trans. it proves how far progress for trans acceptance has moved forward and then back in such a short amount of time. and it’s due in good part to steven. makes me sick.

[@dinosaysrawr]

So, this just confirms for me that Steven Crowder isn't and has never been a conservative so much as he's been a mean-spirited frat boy, and the Right has been perfectly willing to humor, applaud, and indulge that. The meanness takes priority above the principles and politics. It infuriates me to see Steven Crowder trot out people with Down Syndrome in his little pro-life screed, when he's historically mocked disabled people (among others) and promotes policies and beliefs that actively contribute to the suffering of people with disabilities. If you've mocked masks and vaccines, you don't love people with disabilities. If you've ranted about "welfare moochers," pooh-poohed anti-discrimination laws, hemmed and hawed about people receiving a living wage, or attacked the idea of universal healthcare, you don't love people with disabilities.

[@HerculeDevantrien]

"He has never been a conservative so much as he's been a mean-spirited frat boy" That's also how I see him. I don't think he truly has any deep convictions or agenda, he's just an asshole who sticks to the side that allows him to keep his privileges, to be his worst self and rewards him for it - and that happens to be the conservative side. The same can probably be said of most right-wing pundits, but it's particularly obvious with him.

[@unnamedenemy9]

everything I've ever seen about or from Crowder tells me that he's a narcissistic sociopath and only really sees other people as props. He doesn't seem to value other human beings in any meaningful way.

[@cicalinarrot]

I clicked immediately as I saw this, but I also looked at Crowder's face in the thumbnail and thought "why am I doing this to myself?"

[@kezia8027]

right? It's tough, but I think there is value in keeping ourselves aware of what is happening outside the world that we want to live in.

[@Ko0okieeZ]

His downfall was well deserved and it’s impossible to celebrate it enough

[@kezia8027]

@@Ko0okieeZ also I'm not going to lie I'm not a perfect person and I enjoy seeing him get punched in the face, along with that Nazi guy.

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

He looks like tobuscus when he’s younger

[@cicalinarrot]

@@kezia8027 yep... and I don't even think anybody ever deserves to be punched, even if I believe him to be at fault there, so I get no joy in looking at that idiot in a fight. I get only rage for the lies and cringe for the bad comedy.

[@promeitheus]

I shudder at the thought of how much crowder footage was viewed in the making of this. Thanks you for your sacrifice.

[@Soyboy10]

That union-buster unedited clip should be enough (in an ideal scenario) to lose most of his fans. How can anyone watch him rant about “how bad it is for the working class” after something like that? Especially since he did not even own it and/or made an apology. Just fucking lied. This guy is a snake.

[@Giguv05]

Snakes don't deserve to be badmouthed like that

[@omarthescriblomale8279]

He was attacked, the union guy punched first watch the clip

[@bitchywoman]

@@omarthescriblomale8279if you show up to a pro union protest to counter protest you deserve to get knocked out. Counter protestors are starting shit showing up so it’s self defense I feel the same way about antifa.. don’t show footage of fights and cry for sympathy when clearly this crap is porpusly done for a fight

[@MrPiccoloku]

Snakes: "We're literally just trying to live! Tf are you comparing us to this asshole for?"

[@CompComp]

Dammit Jose I was in the middle of the video when I got booted. I do appreciate you uploading the new version and deleting the old at the same time.

[@AllWIllFall2Me]

Look, I'm sure Fun Dip Dan has done and said some shitty things, and that he and I would viciously disagree on many issues, but "A bastard, maybe?" made me laugh out loud. What a perfect response to "misgendering a trans person doesn't make me a bigot."

[@henry5274]

José: "I don't believe in the efficacy or morality of torture." (I didn't re-check what he actually said but believe he would agree) Also José: *Shows us a clip of Crowder rapping*

[@kingboobs20]

That throwaway line about not knowing why the dogs are sad is funnier than anything Crowder has ever said or done in his entire career.

[@ryanmarquez3556]

I can't imagine the agony you must have gone through to watch this much Crowder...

[@BaronVonQuiply]

I agree. I cannot watch that garbage. I also don't want to give them the views and pollute my feed with nonsense ProFa talking points, but mainly it's simply that I have a strong aversion to propaganda, even if they're on my side. eg, I was looking for info on Ukraine, clicked a video, and instantly the guy is talking about how strong and brave the Ukranian soldiers are fighting the drunken lazy orcs rather than tell me about the war. Gratuitous-Adjective ridden speeches don't give me any information and are not useful.

[@bartfargo6744]

Never seen a home schooled theater kid

[@LimeyLassen]

Damn that's a good one 😂

[@heywoodjablome5380]

You would be surprised

[@danielpalama3700]

the irony of him being a character named brain.

[@micahgelfand8282]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@studioofshred1050]

Crazy that Majority Report gave a shout-out to José's other Crowder video recently and now this one drops

[@stevenjneptuneman8409]

Steven Crowder getting his jaw jacked by a union worker twice his age and half his size was the one sole highlight of his political career until the day Sam Seder and Ethan Klein teamed up to humiliate him in front of the whole entire internet.

[@YeDickrider]

I think it’s weird when he says stuff like “OUR troops, OUR border etc,” from a guy who is, by all means a Canadian

[@michellemarty7510]

Crowder being punched in the face by a union worker is a beautiful thing.

[@hollowfied7greed]

Indeed that union worker is a lucky guy, if only his skull got completely caved in it would have been even more beautiful

[@gspendlove]

Yes, but let's qualify. The union worker was defending himself. It was 100% _not_ an unprovoked assault.

[@Lilith2718]

While I was a reactionary and anti-sjw, I never got to the point of even watching Crowder or any other of the big conservatives in any real capacity due to watching so many anti-sjw content creators doing the exact same content. It is unsurprising then to know that I started unsubbing from the vast majority of them and just slowly drifting away when losing interest in them. In hindsight the whole enviornment was really toxic for my mental health and made me just misserable as a whole.

[@MyMegaMango]

I think Steven should’ve specified who was in the tent some more

[@khodges72]

I heard there were orphans and puppies in there!

[@desertplanet3253]

used to like crowder back in middle school, woke up during the pandemic. looking back its crazy this guy sent me down the rabbithole. he's just to uncharismatic

[@jesseboyd8412]

This was an excellent use of the calmest voice working on KZbin

[@stefanhuber7357]

The scenes when all the bloggers were crowded around with their mini-cams blew me away! I never remembered a time when average people had those kinda cameras on them en-masse! That sight felt like an alternate timeline without iPhones but still a camera obsessed society

[@poprocket2342]

I'm sorry, "Protestants and Catholics get along no problem"? My brother in christ there have been so many wars fought between them. As recently as the Troubles in Ireland.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

And the whole Wars Of Religion thing, if we're looking for 'traditional values'.

[@jpickens189]

Physically punishing your children teaches them that if you are bigger and stronger than someone you can control them through pain. I am not really sure what else it achieves.

[@cattibingo]

From cringe aspiring comedian to cringe aspiring comedian that hates no fault divorce

[@TheJocealmighty]

The point about Steven being for divorce until it's not useful to attack Muslims is pretty salient for conservativism as a whole tbh. Remember when they used anti-LGBT actions from the Islamic State to bash Islam as whole? Ye.

[@ratgurl1]

and then more recently they’re trying to appeal to american muslims because they’re supposedly anti-LGBTQ! what a tangled web the right weaves lol

[@sticy5399]

Your videos are absolutely fantastic. I appreciate your level headed analysis of topics we usually don't get the entire picture of. It's intresting to see the backrounds and radicalisation of media personalitys. It helps tremendously to put their behaviour into proper context.

[@InaneBlatherPodcast]

Seems like the Crowder-esque rape apologia logic could certainly be used against him: "Don't want to get attacked? Maybe stop walking around in public with such a punchable face" 🤔

[@MadameTamma]

There's a conservative mindset that outside of their circle, people are just theoretical. People don't have complex lives They're just ideas to be debated over. It's why they don't think twice about espousing the most hypocritical things. Their lives are nuanced, complicated and filled with shades of grey. Others exist just to be talked about.

[@tacticalmisandrist]

8:00 “Troops aren’t even allowed to [lists several methods of legitimate torture] isn’t that crazy?!”

[@lsanonymous3368]

You are my favorite KZbinr. I’m not sure whether you’ve heard this before, but you have a really good cadence and your videos are somehow comforting despite the subject matter.

[@williamgregory1848]

You know what Steven Crowder and his mom have in common? *Both of them made unfunny jokes that nobody asked for.*

[@MoCa1979Jr]

There's nothing objectionable about including a person's private life to criticize their commentary, esp. if it's counter to what they espouse. Simply stated, you can't try to be some type of "moral compass" to make money publicly, but then not live up to said beliefs privately. He's like the conservatives who preach "family values" but don't live up to them. So I see nothing wrong with pointing out someone's own hypocrisy, esp. when they try to claim moral superiority.

[@arempy5836]

Crowder talking about a clump of cells without any consciousness or awareness: "That's a human being that deserves to live and getting rid of it is Murder." Crowder talking about Palestinian children that are already born and able to feel hunger, pain, fear and sorrow: "Fuck'em lmao"

[@CalopsitaVanderbilt1911]

Not even Matt Walsh was against the Down Syndrome Doll.

[@dl-zf9dj]

God I'm so happy his wife divorced him

[@antlerbraum2881]

WAIT STEVEN CROWDER PLAYED THE BRAIN ON ARTHUR?!?!? That’s so strange lmao Also God bless that union worker

[@GOD-in8tn]

"Protestants and Catholics, No Problem" *LAUGHS IN NORTHERN IRISH*

[@TalkingVidya]

He's like the Nostalgia Critic but racist

[@clementineshetheyfae8312]

Union worker should’ve hit harder or maybe more

[@oivi3iv635]

Why hasn't crowder ever fought a Paul brother, that'd of been fire

[@micahgelfand8282]

He's a giant coward

[@zararara841]

Mentally disabled mfs throwing hands, what a concept

[@crestren5996]

I still love the face that Crowder somehow made Amy Schumer funny because of that ONE clip and that has been living in his head rent free for years. Whenever she gets brought up, he HAS to straight up insult her.

[@kredonystus7768]

I do have to agree with two things Crowder says. Guns are cool and planet fitness sucks. That doesn't extend to his thoughts on gun laws but planet fitness should be illegal.

[@Onewingerdraven]

5 y o Steven's uncle laughed at one of his jokes and little steven has been trying to reach this high again since

[@KoochKicker]

Finally some made a video about early crowder, I found his brother's channel and did a deep dive and there was so much stuff and I feel like no one has talked about it

[@emmabennett7699]

What is it called?

[@lolbored801]

A lot of these Conservative comedians aren't funny. It really seems like they're trying really hard to be funny and offensive. When you try to force both it's obvious and unfunny.

[@banonKING]

He put his private life in his commentary. And when his marriaged started to break down, HE brought it up. The leaked video was just the added context to the speculation he helped to engage.

[@SEVENTEENPOINT1]

This video will be even better the 2nd time around!