Steve Reviews: Animal Farm

[@ivorymantis1026]

The good ending was...added. The original just has the abused citizens of animal farm looking over their new overlords remarking their resemblance to the old farmer in a way that "they couldn't tell the difference". The book ends there.

[@bigboomer1013]

The live action movie ends the same way.

[@snowy2747]

I preferred the book ending. It tells us that if you give into power and don’t fight back sooner, it could be too late. Just because someone is higher above you doesn’t make them right.

[@rabbit8153]

I kinda see the movie ending as an infinite cycle which makes it more sad than the book I might see it wrong but that how I imagine

[@unsuspiciousdweller8967]

Been years since I last saw the live action movie, but I could have sworn it ended with Napoleon dying of old age, and the other animals able to be free only then.

[@pepticgloopys1013]

i personally think that's the most important line of the book

[@NotVeryRandomDude]

1945 - Manga 1954 - Anime 1999 - Netflix adaptation

[@ooppetal2183]

that's almost exactly how Watership Down went :0

[@shoozebelstar6664]

Also 1954 - Suitmation.

[@myblueyoshi2967]

2021-Sony animation pictures

[@Chuked]

ThatRandomDude oh then I read the manga first👍

[@oreo3740]

Correction: 1977: Netflix adaptation

[@thenecroticraptor8338]

You know it's bad when the *_raven_* looks away.

[@penguinw7]

his name is Moses

[@a.k8185]

Actually .........*you are right*

[@mediatorraptor3349]

It just witness some of his bird relative get torn into pieces. Of course it would look away.

[@CAPTAPHOENIXF90]

Yup, that one of the clue context that my teacher taught me that horrific death of these animals

[@shuliu4804]

Poor berd.

[@madness_mania]

13:50 the pig really said 😭😭😒😭😭 LIKE THAT WAS MY FAVORITE THING EVER

[@Antonio-fj5gs]

The beginning of that fake mourning moment Squealer: 😭I was with him right to the end 👀

[@beastmaster0934]

That’s Squealer, he’s pretty much Napoleon’s yes man and second in command.

[@catherinecao4810]

It actually happened in the book.

[@ploppman7524]

Based on a book by George Orwell? Oh I'm sure it's all sunshine and rainbows from the same author as 1984.

[@thomaspatton926]

Yeah anytime you are talking about communism it’s gonna be sunshine and rainbows

[@thek2despot426]

@mary sunshine Things that look beautiful but are really just destructive and/or lies? I think maybe the "sunshine and rainbows" saying works even better thinking of it like *that* in the contexts it is often used; for example, in this case communism.

[@Outlaw7263]

Archer: Wait, there are animals? Lana: No, Animal Farm. Cyril: How do you not get that? Archer: No, I know what an animal farm is. Cyril: Not an animal farm. Archer: Maybe we can stampede a flock of goats down the hall. Lana: ANIMAL FARM IS A BOOK! Archer: No, it’s not Lana. It’s an allegorical novella about Stalinism by George Orwell, and spoiler alert, IT SUCKS!

[@jessemcelroy2776]

Censorship can be dangerous too.

[@ballislife6034]

Outlaw7263 bro, you just posted *C R I N G E*

[@pacoramon9468]

The donkey gets thinner and thinner after Napoleon takes over, nice detail.

[@shibainu9043]

detail

[@josephmiranda7047]

welcome to the ricefields *detail*

[@malachi9695]

Benjamin is the donkey

[@hiyallimamythepizzaman9900]

de *tail*

[@wulfulk1000]

DEEPEST LORE

[@kloverleavezisdeadlol]

Fun Fact: Animal Farm is actually the first British animated film. *looks like the began on a dark note*

[@savageshot3723]

"The began" lmfao

[@nyctea-5218]

SpoopyMemeyBook *cough* Watership down *cough*

[@DenpaKei]

@@nyctea-5218 that came out later

[@blizzardthekleptomaniac100]

-cough cough- animals of farthing woods

[@jasburger]

Hey Flower

[@sadlittleghost8346]

The ending of the book is extremely haunting. After seeing the pigs walking on two legs and wearing clothes, the other animals go back to check the rules because they were sure that wasn’t allowed. There they find “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others” which is the last line of the book.

[@willphoenix5464]

Don't forget the very last sentence "They looked at a pig, then at a man, and then at a pig, and they couldn't tell which was which"

[@boi-op9lc]

@@willphoenix5464 what a way to end a book it left me with so many emotions

[@thenosebud]

That’s not the last line of the book

[@TheFawfulExpressMustardO-cx6mw]

"They looked from pig to man, then man to pig, then pig to man again, but already it was impossible to tell which was which.

[@TheFawfulExpressMustardO-cx6mw]

Want to know the bets thing about the "some more equal than others" line. It's Benjamin, the donkey who has stayed apathetic and cryptic throughout the whole book, that reads it. Things have gotten so bad that even he can't ignore them anymore.

[@dshe8637]

This isn't a kid's film. The book (which is FAR more widely known and recognised than the films btw) is a political allegory of the Soviet system. George Orwell was always highly political in his writing; this isn't a children's story. Each of the characters represents an historical figure directly.

[@trevor4212]

He never said it was a kids movie. He said he watched it as a kid.

[@zsuzsannamezey8361]

@@trevor4212 the thumbnail literally says "DISTURBING KIDS FILM!" in bold yellow letters.

[@Hydrolaevea]

woooosh

[@Patrick61804]

D She they make all freshman read it in my school

[@hellonokay1925]

He knew that this was not a kids film he put a ' this on the word kids

[@maxtheoutkast69]

As soon as the hogfather pig died of a heart attack, I got an ad of someone flipping burgers and I lost my mind. I couldn't stop laughing.

[@catandrobbyflores]

I got lip gloss

[@RaraZeCat]

I’m just waiting for an ad for pig skin boots, or candy that contians geletan.

[@TheUnheardVoices_]

😂

[@TheBatIsRad6435]

If only it was bacon. That wounded been perfect

[@KFrost-fx7dt]

Are people still not using adblock these days?

[@troglodyte4207]

Not sure why’d you expect anything less from an adaptation of a George Orwell book

[@BasicallyGoblin]

Who was an anti authoritarian Brit, but he seemed to skim right the fuck over that shit

[@hollingharris659]

thank you for saying the exact thing i was thinking but too lazy to comment myself

[@datman2433]

I can't wait to see "My 1984 summer"

[@BigBossMan538]

Maybe I'm misremembering, but Snowball always seemed like he actually had good intentions for the farm and the animals. His mistake was not realizing what Napoleon was up to and how easily exploitable their system was

[@TheCam920]

Yep, if you remember, things were much more prosperous and happy under the democratic system where all animals could vote. It was after Napoleon's betrayal of animalism where life got much harder for the animals

[@dylanpoynor2318]

I just finished the book and that is true. When George Orwell wrote Snowball he based him off of Leon Trotsky, who he greatly admired.

[@Octopugilist]

Snowball truly wanted to help everyone, and while the farm he was building wouldn't have been perfect, he would never have screwed everyone over like Napoleon did

[@JakiKang]

My interpretation of snowball atleast after reading the book was that while he may have seemed to have good intentions, he wasnt nessicarly any better than Napoleon. They were still both pigs and chances are if snowball would have stayed he would have become just as corrupt as Napoleon. Just my interpretation though

[@gaudium-wille9470]

Wasn't snowball in with the pigs when they drank the milk from cows and got the apples, or wa sit just Napoleon and the otehr pigs? I'm asking about the book because in this movie it's Napolen and Squealer who drink from the milk

[@AKIPOPOPOPOOON]

*ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS*

[@karateparty100]

(Sheep chanting) FOUR LEGS GOOD! TWO LEGS BAD! FOUR LEGS GOOD! TWO LEGS BAD!

[@lynetteglenn8154]

I'm confused too. :)

[@columbidae20]

All chips are equal but some are more equal than others

[@ronald.jchanefeild5279]

3 words Load of bull

[@krakenking8763]

Yyyyessssss???

[@FiveOClockTea]

Funnily enough in France it's illegal to name your pig Napoleon 🐷

[@christinao9061]

iirc in the French translation of Animal Farm they call the character Cesar

[@hypnoticskull6342]

I wonder why! XD

[@housel9352]

They dont want to taint Napoleon's name with a communist swine

[@girlhelp8364]

But is it illegal to name any other animal the name?

[@thaleswust]

@Le Crapaud Biscornu Allah and Muhammad are religious figures that are very respected by many. Napoleon may also be a respected figure, but when you disrespect a political figure it's a disrespect solely of that figure, but when you talk about a deity, you're talking about a whole culture. And Allah's and Muhammad's culture is not a very tolerant one when people mess with their figures, Remember the Charlie Hebdo incident? And even South Park tried to mess with this subject and had to censor an episode. It's not a crime to name your pet Allah, but may not be a good idea

[@chronovac]

It's almost like it's based on an Orwell novel

[@melodysafo5437]

It is

[@mastemathedank4043]

@@melodysafo5437 r/woosh

[@Jaynosurname]

I WoNdEr WhY

[@MMoutoo]

@@melodysafo5437 r/woooooooooooosh

[@elisabethnelson5452]

@@melodysafo5437 r/woooooooooosh

[@bellarawding6470]

The ending- In the book, the ending is literally that pretty much everyone is dead, now theres only really Benjamin, Clover (Another Horse), and a few others. Napoleon randomly goes dictator mode, along with another pig, Squealer (Squealer is Napoleons little, lets say, controller I guess. In the book, he is EXTREMALLY persuasive and is constantly convincing the animals that everything is a-okay.) Everyone is now miserable. They all understand whats going on, yet they have so little power, they have to just deal with it by now. The pigs break that whole moral conduct, and now Napoleon is drinking with other farmers, playing cards, showing his full dictator side by now and it's shown that the animals really are overworked, despite Squealer constantly saying they're doing way better than in Jones day. The book ends with the animals unable to tell whos who, human to pig, and an arguement breaking out about cards. The ending is sad. The ending is cruel and not happy at all. That's the point; the ending should not be happy out of a book based off of Dictators, Communism, and Oppression. The book was never supposed to have a happy ending as having one pretty much destroys the point of the plot; dictators are powerful and will silence you and force you into your place. Just my view on the book!

[@milk-ub9zo]

The point of the end of the book is that even the very ones who had sworn to never because like their enemies (humans) became just like them in front of the irresistible thirst for power.

[@TheBeachBoysOfficial]

@@milk-ub9zo *cough* Biden *cough* *cough* Democrats *cough* *cough*

[@milk-ub9zo]

@@TheBeachBoysOfficial what even are you talking about this book was released in 1945 it's about the russian revolution and afterwards

[@Da.Liar-Pig]

I just remembered that I watch the documentary about the production of this animated adaptation It was said that John Halas did not want to change the ending but it was said to do so

[@koyomin241]

"they looked from man And pig, than pig to man. But saw no difference"

[@kaywilliams7540]

Steve: The animals begin to build Snowball's- Napoleon: *UNGODLY SCREAM* Steve: I mean, Napoleon's windmill Me: (○-○)

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

I swear I laughed at the scream.

[@kaywilliams7540]

@@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034 I think I laughed too because it was so unexpected

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

@@kaywilliams7540 agreed.

[@asriellian]

Literal REEEEEEEEEÉEEEEEEEEE

[@BrenTenkage]

@@asriellian exactly, now whenever I see the word reeeeee I will now think of that

[@roborabbit159]

Actually the creepy song is really them trying to sing " Beasts of England "

[@autistichades5552]

Mades sense, The Russian Empire were allies with Britain(and France) until the blood covered their flag.

[@mineboom7377]

It even said that in the book.

[@ayhemsellami9912]

Does anyone have the lyrics

[@labellelace]

Extra Funny Meme it’s in the book. You can probably find them online.

[@rhiannonderen1757]

Duh..

[@robertlopez2052]

Snowball was such a good guy. I genuinely loved him. He was so kind, and he genuinely wanted to help out the animals.

[@elainefillname9856]

can you say the same for Trotsky?

[@The-kr9rb]

I mean, more or less he was. Trotsky himself is a bit more complicated, because he isn't a pig.

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

@@elainefillname9856 Wasn't he supposed to be Lenin?

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

@@The-kr9rb : _" Trotsky himself is a bit more complicated, because _*_he isn't a pig_*_ "_ Dude... Spoilers!

[@The-kr9rb]

@@noneofyourbeeswax01 lol

[@kilssj2250]

It's because they killed off the female dog. I don't remember her name, but she was the mother of the puppies that were taken and turned into soldiers. I feel like she played an integral role in the readers understanding throughout the book 📖.

[@serenitythesiren5031]

In the book, she was sort of divided into two dogs, one named Jessie, one named Bluebell. The saddest part is, neither of them die. Napoleon just takes the puppies to 'educate' them.

[@featherybastard]

in the book she isn't all that important but her role is bumped up significantly in the 1999 film

[@beastmaster0934]

@@serenitythesiren5031 That’s what happened in the 1999 live action version. Although in that one, Jessie was the only dog named.

[@Nukawin]

The moment where the slaughter truck took Boxer away always left me in tears, he was my favourite character throughout the movie. :(

[@ferrugemalemao]

That's when I stopped watching it as a kid. Never watched it again. The trauma was somehow "cured" when we read the book in English class when I was older.

[@1945joshuaruiz]

That how it was tho If you stopped working the state doesn’t see you as useful anymore . You no longer have purpose . Either you and your family die from starvation or simply “disappear “

[@onyxsavior7179]

Napoleon the pig can go fuck himself

[@Freefork]

Boxer is the best animal in media, HANDS/HOOFS DOWN!

[@jeffjeff1445]

I've just finished reading the book for school it's really good

[@__________5802]

It is not your farm... IT IS *OUR* FARM

[@kartblaster9987]

bro what is that PFP?

[@deeznuts-kw6yv]

*communism intensify’s*

[@michaelboydston313]

In the middle of our street

[@thatoneguywiththevoice328]

USSR national anthem intensifies

[@thatoneguywiththevoice328]

2:14

[@alastair876]

I remember reading this my freshman year of highschool- Even younger dumbass me knew how much this book screamed "COMMUNISM"

[@natalijatheghost]

I loved this book as a freshman, and I still like it

[@alastair876]

@@natalijatheghost same here tbh

[@communisttrash8590]

The best part is this is written by a socialist and is a critique on soviet communism but Orwell actually fought with communists and believed in communism he wrote a book on it called homage to Catalonia you should read it

[@alastair876]

@@communisttrash8590 huh, that is quite interesting tbh. It's interesting to know that the book was a critique of a certain method of it.

[@kevinnigins9488]

Alastair • Freshman? I was forced to read this book in 8th grade

[@ghostslayer1981]

I always thought it was creepy how napoleon in the book was always able to keep the rest of the farm from overthrowing him and going back to snowball after he's kicked out. He keeps using him as a scapegoat for multiple misdeeds (which never happened) and slowly over the book change who snowball was from a true animal hero who attacked Jones and lead the animal charge to being a traitor to Jones and helping the humans fight, leading the human charge. It's creepy because he does it so well by slowly blurring that line with the animals forgetting all the specifics of the tale and eventually getting it warped due to that. And if anyone questioned it, like say Boxer? Death, as we see. Napoleon knows that to keep control, he needs to build trust and upkeep all his lies. And in the book and movie, he really does that well.

[@meh8982]

Orwell does a similar thing in 1984 with "Goldstein" as the all-purpose scapegoat. I think in Animal Farm the Snowball role was inspired by Trotsky. It's typical of authoritarian regimes. You often see the same thing today.

[@yeethittter1285]

I actually very recently finished reading the original book. It's actually surprising how different it is. For example, the cat doesn't actually die I'm pretty sure, and the book actually ends on the much lower note of the farm having gone through a loop and the pigs being exactly like farmer Jones. By the way, the "creepy song" at the beginning is a very important song from the book called 'Beasts of England', they just used animal noises instead of english lyrics. The animals did speak.

[@blod9862]

The dog (mother of the puppies, tho technically there was two dogs who where mothers of the puppies) didn’t die in the battle, she died of old age in the last chapter

[@isamovies1192]

The book was way darker and more depressing

[@froggyslap]

Isa Movies of course, books usually have more detail and events that don’t get into the movies

[@copperbunnies9849]

@@froggyslap yes yes I agree; I do prefer books over the film adaptation

[@raviothethief8292]

Isa Movies yup read it in 5th grade and my fucking God..

[@noahbutler9180]

It is a really good book though

[@noahbutler9180]

@@raviothethief8292 you read animal farm in 5th grade

[@LemonMelonShork]

"Oh GOD! Make it stop!" *Old Major dies* "Thank you."

[@melodicmelody6730]

lmaoo

[@itsmoe0043]

We had to watch the film for class, and we may have laughed hysterically when Old Major died....

[@Metalsluga_]

Fun fact: Snowball didn't get killed, he just got chased off and when the windmill got blown down (not by dynamite, they left out the bit out in the film) they blame it on snowball

[@basilcat3111]

In the animated version, he died.

[@Metalsluga_]

@@basilcat3111 oh yeah, I meant in the book, I forgot to include that

[@crimsondynamo615]

I heard Napoleon sent a weasel to drive a pickaxe through the back of snowball’s head

[@TehBluPanda]

I love how my high school decided it was a good idea to have us read Animal Farm without any sort of grasp on important concepts like... communism... and politics...

[@Artizap_]

My 6th grade Middle School class thought it was a good idea as well...

[@Chidera420]

I also like how i have to waste my summer over this and fahrenheit 451

[@dogecollection4519]

The idea was that if you learn that absolute control and suppression of the people is bad as a child, you’re smart enough as you get older to understand why communism and fascism are bad. It sets a precedent

[@hissanrach8797]

@@dogecollection4519 Except it's an example of blatant dishonesty and ideological brainwashing in the education sector. Children are told to read stories which are literal propaganda before they have any understanding of what is even being portrayed specifically so it skews and warps their view of history, so they are conditioned to uncritically oppose something they don't understand, ie controlling what they think.

[@SeruraRenge11]

I'm curious, what was their take on the book without understand the subtext?

[@isaaccrawford5108]

The book doesn't have a happy ending. It just ends all depressing with Napoleon as a horrible dictator. It's so depressing when it ends. Edit: I cant believe so many of you like this comment. You're welcome.

[@Snowfang00]

But the ending of the book brings up the main idea behind the story. In the book, Napoleon and the other pigs are sitting with a group of humans. When the animals looked through the glass at them, they couldn't tell the difference between the two groups. Meaning that Napoleon had completely gone against what Old Major had told them years ago.

[@yeethittter1285]

@@Snowfang00 and Napoleon convinces all animals throughout the book that they are equal, but it ends in a sort of loop when he ends up exactly like farmer joe

[@CheshireCesare]

@@Snowfang00 Man, when the animals started walking upright in the book and essentially becoming "human"... even just reading that freeeaakeddd me out, it was somewhat expected and yet... *not* ...

[@fatmanbatman9374]

Thats how 1984 ended orwell had bad endings

[@Rassilons-hand-me-downs]

That’s why I love the book tbh

[@santiagoboscan3277]

I didn’t know that Soviet Union got an anime adaptation

[@frenchsoldier8485]

Animation*

[@Artizap_]

French Soldier *Anime

[@frenchsoldier8485]

@@Artizap_ Animation

[@Artizap_]

French Soldier *Anime

[@Craze_1209]

War in a nutshell: above my reply

[@The-Macdoo]

They actually explain the whole "wings count as legs" a lot better in the book.

[@c.d.dailey8013]

Yeah. Wings are like legs in that they are both used purely for locomotion. By contrast, a human's arms are used for using tools.

[@FayeLawnKrack3d]

Yeah, they’re basically evolved legs.

[@ThatOneMan830]

>Animal Farm >Kid’s film Pick one, you can’t have both.

[@Bananappleboy]

alex bajayo both

[@Swock010]

@@Bananappleboy dam gottem 👌🏼😂👏🏼👍🏼

[@mrheroprimes]

i remeber this movie Scared the ever Living Daylights out of me as a kid, I think it's from one of those 5 dollar DVDs that were sold a alongside compilation dvds of old 1930/40's Warner Brothers cartoons and superman cartoons, also including two very badly dubbed South Korean anime films Diatron-5 and Defenders of space (it's main robot that appear in this film is basically Inferno from Transformers Generation 1),walmart in the early 2000's.

[@cinnanovelist]

alex bajayo Animal Farm Always

[@bubblenugget1215]

How about neither

[@insanemariobros4665]

We read this book in my freshman year and, I’m not gonna lie, I actually enjoyed it. Yes it’s dark, but George Orwell had a thing for historical satire, and I found that compelling myself!

[@vortigan9068]

ikr dark stuff is pretty interesting

[@joeytofil2259]

You might enjoy Chuck Palahniuk, he wrote Fight Club and his genre is twisted satire

[@gabrielcastillo7638]

I read the book in my freshman year and it's great

[@lukedanuser]

Read it yesterday and it was fascinating, couldn’t put it down.

[@snakezlair6671]

Same with me

[@saturnalia3335]

See but here’s the gag: they didn’t actually revolt in the original book so it was even more depressing

[@benchmarking6875]

That is because the book was made in 1945

[@barrettfenwick8028]

They couldn't show the Totalitarian Commie winning in the middle of the Cold War. The CIA actually had a decent amount of input on this film!

[@monkofdarktimes]

Its the last 5 minutes of the first flim that the CIA affected

[@Redbird-dh7mu]

Yeah, the point of the book is to not give away your freedoms because you might not get them back.

[@Nyerguds]

Would be funnier if they were taken over by the cows and the whole cycle just started again :p

[@boop7405]

the boxer plotline disturbed me so much in both the book and movie but imo its worse in the movie cause you see it all happen and seeing boxer scream and cry while he’s getting pulled away to the glue factory. Absolutely traumatized me

[@JeanMurray-wc2mr]

Same, I watched this when I was a kid and I never forgot about it..years later as an adult reading the book it had the same effect on me.

[@jwebcoding7289]

The most cynical part about it was that they used the money from selling him to the knacker to buy a whole case of booze so the pigs could get drunk.

[@Whocares158]

Treated him like a piece of 🍖 ready to be Sold.

[@Iceclaw77]

I would say that while Animal Farm isn't supposed to be a children's book, I can understand why people would (at first glance) think that it is. The language and prose used in it (for the most part) is simple to understand, the plot is easy to follow, the book's length is short compared to most other novels, and even the title gives the impression that it is for a much younger audience. Tl;dr: Animal Farm is an allegory for the rise of the USSR disguised as a novel for adults disguised as a children's book.

[@jerm70]

Eh, its meant to be a kid's book, its just that the modern day standards of child's book is so skewed to where not even Peter Pan is a kid's book.

[@honest_126]

@@jerm70 if it is, it's for children probably, PROBABLY, for kids in a middle school level on.

[@jerm70]

@@honest_126 Instead of is replace it with was. Past tense. Kids are baby'd nowadays.

[@garfieif8187]

It's for kids and adults alike. Kids deserve to read things with depth and meaning, too, and the value of thinking for yourself is one that isn't taught nearly enough.

[@Da_Swifta]

Couldn't have said it better meself mate

[@brandongonzalez_]

I noticed something. As we first see the pups that Napoleon adopts, they are white, innocent pups that have pure souls. But as we see the pups grown up, their skin turns black and dark, corrupted by Napoleon’s dark intent, and the dogs are left to work for Napoleon not knowing of the pure life they could have had.

[@nidohime6233]

They were basically brainwashed as personal assasins.

[@Usher2990]

@@nidohime6233 were*

[@nidohime6233]

@@Usher2990 My bad

[@lordtabs]

):

[@eleonorvoncarter6769]

Of course

[@etps4444]

11:18 My initial thought was, "Where did they get the red paint?" and then, ".... Oh."

[@andreac2698]

Jesus christ

[@gayfurry76]

Thats hot

[@samsung4360]

Thanks😢 , i thought it was buyed 😥.

[@iexistyes_]

Shit did you have to?

[@sillysquee]

Nice luz pfp 👀

[@uyq5726]

I love how Steve forgets boxers name half way in and starts calling him buster.

[@monikaradzaj7407]

Animal Farm isn't aimed at kids though. It's aimed to a more adult audience.

[@damiancampbell7534]

Monika Radzaj That didnt stop me from reading the book in school when I was a kid.

[@sem9165]

it’s anti communism. which means it’s for everyone.

[@MultiDiarmuid]

@@sem9165 It's Anti-Soviet, not anti-communist. There's a reason why Old Major and Snowball are portrayed sympathetically in the book.

[@zladdykalash2125]

I watched it in 5th grade, I disagree.

[@nomem_dubium]

Well I saw it when I was 3 Not a good idea , really

[@taliawtf6944]

Always be extremely wary of people claiming they can make a utopia or perfect world or system. More often than not they mean it will be perfect for them and no one else.

[@anon9579]

Utopia can never be

[@rickmarr4478]

One's Utopia is Another's Dystopia.

[@littlemoth4956]

Humanity is too vast of a species to be able to work together long enough to form a utopia.

[@LazyPirate8]

Utopia stands for me myself and I. Not you!

[@littlemoth4956]

@@LazyPirate8 But each person can call themselves "me myself and I." There are over 7 billion people in the world, you know.

[@JadeAnnabelArt]

“They looked from man and pig, than from pig to man, and saw no difference.” I recently read the book myself and have been obsessed with everything surrounding it. I found that last line to be open ended, which helped the message. It offered a choice, it offered free thought. To come to your own conclusions. The animated version felt like what was expected. Starving animals don’t put up much of a fight, but a hundred of them will certainly take you down. A hundred starving slaves can kill a small group of slaves. The live action movie is the worst by far. It focused way too much on a single animal (Jessie), who (spoilers) dies of old age in the book without much fanfare. In the book, the puppies are take in plain sight, Napolean giving a half assed excuse, but the animals forget swiftly. In the movie Jessie constantly begs with them to no avail. She’s the main star and she won’t let you forget it. The ending is “Well we left and the elements took care of the pigs.” Which just suggests inaction is the answer. Animal Farm doesn’t need a main character. It’s not about the individuals, which is why the live action really rubbed me the wrong way. It’s about all the animals as a whole. The whole country/community. Anyway the animated movie gave the book justice. It gave the ending we expected the book to have after that chilling last line, and a satisfaction required of a visual media.

[@mattoreo5854]

Nah imo the ending ruined it. Them winning defeated the point. It was supposed to be a cautionary tale, but because the CIA got involved with the movie, it became about overthrowing bad governments. The message of a cycle of revolutions and oppression was defeated by them seemingly defeating communism and bringing forth democracy. I think the book ended where it was supposed to. The story was meant to make you sad, felling hopeless, not overjoyed that democracy rules... But that's just my opinion

[@sebulller]

wait theres a live thing about this? huu

[@AlarchyGaming]

I literally only watched the live action for patrick stewart and thats it

[@saladasss2092]

why desn't the NK starving people do something about their situation? They are hundreds of starving people that are in that situation. Just, they don't have media.

[@Billious]

The live action was actually directed by a man who escaped the Soviet Union and saw its fall. Which is why the ending is the way it is.

[@WillieManga]

I must say, the pigs slowly blurring the line between man and beast was essential and I am glad it was implemented in the movie.

[@aclown36]

*Animal Crossing: New Horizons,* *the Rated R version*

[@itriggerpeople4433]

Bruh

[@JimVonSchmittou]

I-

[@cmlmonstar007]

Comrade Tim actually pg13 original cartoon TV movie pg

[@recon_cat6167]

@@tthung8668 lol was gonna say the same thing

[@cocolover1237]

Get this man to the top

[@aidanveldman1378]

Don’t talk about the anime if you haven’t read the manga

[@Ben-uc8ms]

^This

[@theadamfriedlandshow4668]

Amen

[@Zigtyr]

What sort of bad stuff happens in the manga?

[@dutchvanderlinde5855]

Sigtyr Well, the animals don’t win in the book. In fact, the animals don’t even revolt at all in the book. They just look at the pigs and humans and can’t tell the difference between them.

[@slightlyistorical1776]

Rancid Cheese don’t read Manga and don’t watch Anime

[@pepsidoggo1598]

wait, George Orwell, same one who made 1984?

[@funnguis8163]

Yep! He made 1984 as well. Some books of animal farm also have 1984 in the same book.

[@IdiotPhD]

Ye.

[@dracocrusher]

Not really too surprising in hindsight, I think. The guy definitely seemed to have a strong desire to write stories based heavily around political ideologies and how they can become unfavorable for the common man.

[@indisciipline]

Damn, I didn't know he made 1984. I enjoyed Animal Farm, guess I should read that other book!

[@selkkie6691]

@@indisciipline He's written more books, if you liked animal farm read his other books they're all really good.

[@Milty2001]

I love the fact that the pigs became the very thing they hated, and seeing the pups turn into huge hound dogs was pretty dark. Especially when the donkey in the movie looks at the window and sees the pigs wearing suits and walking on two legs

[@hiddendesire3076]

It’s accurate as well politically speaking. Those who claimed to be anti-fascists and against central government have they themselves embraced fascist tactics, barbarism, and calls for totalitarian regimes where no criticism of their “glorious” ideology is allowed.

[@T-minus-infinite]

The creepy chanting is where the animals sing a song in the book Edit: In the book the animals justify wings counting as legs because wings are used for movement like legs but arms aren't used to walk

[@testerwulf3357]

Anything used for travel is a leg to them basically.

[@seanmacguire3324]

Beasts of England , Beasts of Ireland,

[@whitedragoness23]

Eh, either way wings are features humans don’t have so I guess the wording animal characteristics wouldn’t have flowed nicely with the pigs transformation

[@LocalIdiot388]

They are probably singing (In My Opinion) "The Internationale"

[@T-minus-infinite]

@@seanmacguire3324 yes that was it

[@ammarpratama1203]

Random farmer: Uses a gun like a club Me: *He a little bit confused, but he got the spirit*

[@unherolike]

I think the idea is they were trying to take back control of the farm not kill all the animals.

[@IAmTheStig32]

[laughs in 18th century soldier when he's just fired his one bullet]

[@soul6733]

Laugh in WW2 soldiers who refused to shoot germans because afraid of them shooting back. In a war.

[@YourMiddleBroPhil]

Brings a whole new meaning to the term "gun club"

[@Mafon2]

there's a joke in X-Men, where guards mocking Beast for reading kiddie book "Animal Farm".

[@nomadicvaquero2791]

*Hol up*

[@theuserintheroom4450]

It was a political satire.

[@Teddybear6775]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@bluedragonfly8139]

And then he destroys them with a very apt summary of it. It was a beautiful scene.

[@MrAlmindore58]

Can we take a moment to reflect that Steve's doctor is Dr. Jones, and the farmer ALSO has that surname?

[@cthulhufhtagn2483]

7:08 The exact phrase the pig uses in the book is that the wing "is an organ of locomotion, rather than manipulation", which works well enough for me.

[@darthvader2994]

yea i don't get why they didn't just keep that in rather than just "wings = legs"

[@rhiannonm6022]

@@darthvader2994 because it's a 'kids' movie and that would be too confusing

[@pugachan9928]

Cant wait for Netflix live action adaptation starring Amy smucher as napoleon.

[@katejuricak7941]

Omg 😂😂😂😂

[@Chaotic_Observer]

My god! 😆😆

[@gubadagoober]

No not napoleon vladimir lenin

[@pulletpocket]

You mean Mr. Jones?

[@anon9579]

Good role for her because she is a pig lol

[@HunhowsShadowStalker]

>Implying Animal Farm was ever meant for children. I'm so disappointed.

[@bigmeknurgle]

It was a cartoon movie released in 1954. Two years later VHS was invented. You think parents, throughout the 60's, 70's and 80's, browsing through videos for low-effort childminding tools (a kid wont wander about or hurt himself if he's sat still watching a film for 2 hours) would look at the cover and think "CLEARLY this is not for children", and thus no child ever saw it? Also, your newfriend status is showing, ass. Such clever people in youtube comment sections. I'm so disappointed.

[@srgtshocwave]

bigmeknurgle I... I think he was joking bud...

[@HunhowsShadowStalker]

@@bigmeknurgle Wow, someone's in a bad mood. I was clearly joking and pointing out a mistake he made when he referred to the video as if it were a children's movie. You should probably develop a sense of humor, because you're acting like an asshole without one.

[@thearchive792]

@@bigmeknurgle Oh now that's E D G Y

[@bigmeknurgle]

@??? It wasn't a mistake, the film was advertised and sold as a childrens movie. The content doesn't matter after mommy and daddy have spent their money and left junior in front of the TV for a few hours. So get over it? _Edit; comedy is subjective, and the OP wasn't funny. It was aloof bragging that came from the assumption of knowing-it-all._ ​ @Ivan Jocic Lotsa butthurt wannabe commies, it seems. With the 10 global monopolies controlling every type of consumable, you think that's gonna happen anytime soon? You think your local government will allocate funds so you can have a chocolate bar or a can of energy drink in your monthly rations? Lol no

[@Floorbie_Nana]

Somewhat fun fact: George Orwell himself described his story as “an animal fable” as if it were just a fun fairytale

[@sudokuacrobatics]

Yeah, it is a fairy tale compared to 1984 😂

[@bretonloveland]

All fables are dark. They have to be.

[@lordstumpy2945]

Even as a kid though I feel like animal farm tells an especially important story, or moral rather, that should be taught more often to children as propaganda, though maybe not as harmful, is still very rife today and thinking for yourself in a world where everyone is more easily influenced by the media is still as important as it always was.

[@Shlankyman545]

I love you and this comment

[@jaskitstepkit7153]

It's a warning about greed creating tyranny while undermining every noble cause

[@elltheclown4285]

I agree, i was forced to read the book for school and i liked it my biggest complaint is how all the characters are one dimensional

[@shannonmcelroy8454]

@@elltheclown4285 I agree, I won't lie about the book's simplicity, and the characters being less developed. Although in the story's context, I feel it is justified given that it's more story focused than character focused. George Orwell often wrote because he wanted to give an important message, and in this case there are times where more developed characters can overwhelm the story and make the reader less inclined to listen when the characters are put through the wringer. By distancing the reader from the depths of character feelings, it helps them swallow the more unsavory features of the story.

[@ironybob]

Fact : it’s illegal in France to call a pig Napoleon

[@motherofdogs7980]

LeRaptorFrançais I think it's because of this movie

[@juliamavroidi8601]

That's why in the french version if the book Napoleon is called César

[@CedricsSpecialLP]

Julia Mavroidi I think that was what Orwell originally wanted to call him.

[@anissayessaad4737]

Ah bon?

[@Thegamergabe4.0]

Funny how Wario knows this. Love you Wah!!

[@jacknewell1847]

as to his question on "Four legs good, Two legs bad", in the original novel by George Orwell, Snowball explained that the wings of the birds should be thought of as "an instrument of propulsion", and was considered a leg. also, the original book is a satire to the rise (and moral fall) of the Soviet Union. the "hog", or as he was called in the book, "Old Major" represented Vladimir Lenin, Snowball represented Leon Trotsky, while Napoleon represented Joseph Stalin. the reason all the animals just "go along with it" was because they were written to represent the ill-educated and leaderless Soviet Masses. The Russian people had for years suffered under the oppressive rule of the Tsars. For this reason, they would accept any situation that they believed to be superior to than what they had before (edit): I have been informed that my analysis does not cover enough content. I will now rectify this issue that has been brought to my attention. Ahem: The Nine Dogs in the book represent Stalin's boys, a mixture of the KGB and elements of the red army, beating down dissidents and suppressing "deviant opinions". They are comparable to the Thought Police in George Orwell's 1984. The Sheep, Fowl, Cows, and other assorted livestock are the Proletariat, the "proles", the Great Unwashed. Working class, blue collar people, common folk, the peasantry and factory workers that made up the actual labour force of the Soviet Union, who the revolution was initially intended to serve. However, they are too poorly educated, brainwashed and, due to short lifespans/generational gaps, did not understand that their situation was becoming rapidly more Authoritarian and that their conditions where not in fact improving. An excellent sequence in 1984 best portrays this, when Winston has to seek out an old man to learn about life before the revolution, because nearly everyone else is too caught up in the Party's propaganda to remember the truth. Benjamin represents the portion of the population made up of educated but nihilistic ageing middle class people, such as teachers, political thinkers, military officers and revolutionaries who survived Stalin's purges (represented by Napoleon chasing Snowball off the farm and intimidating animals into confessing to imaginary crimes), people who understand that their situation is worsening but feel powerless/indifferent too it. In the book, this is shown by his ability to read and remember the revisions made to the rules, but his inactivity. The Horses, particularly Boxer, represent the revolutionary loyalists, the leaders or organisations such as labour unions or weak-minded government officials. These people blindly believed the uplifting messages of Lenin, Trotsky and Marx, and put forward the enormous effort required to make them a reality, but where not intelligent enough to avoid their fates. The Men represent THEM. It doesn't really matter who THEY are, they are simply the Great, Evil, Opposing mass that wants to tear down the GLORIOUS REVOLUTION, and will succeed without your blind loyalty. They want to return things to the way they where, and have been called by many names, the Tsar's loyalists, Monarchists, Anarchists, Capitalists, Nazis, or the least popular minority of the week. While they do occasionally pose opposition to the Farm, their threat is exaggerated and conditions under the Tsars are made to seem untenable. This fear is used to keep the Proles in line, without the use of force. You must work harder Commrade, or Jones will come back. You dont want that, do you? The pigeons that fly to other farms are stand-ins for the Communists who scattered across the globe, intending to spread the revolution world-wide. Such political idealists appeared globally, and fought in conflicts such as The Spanish Civil War and WW2. I am too tired to think of any more right now, but if anyone wants to suggest any, I will take a stab at it. I really dont want to do the Generic "OMGthanks4AllDaLikesUGUYSLOL" thing, so I will instead say this: I find it genuinely uplifting, that in this age of mass media and fleeting trends, there are some people who still continue to discuss and converse about such amazing material as Animal Farm. I am honored that this post has garnered as much attention attention as it has, and would love to discuss this topic further. Vinaka VakaLevu Bosso Levu. Good evening ladies and gentlemen. (I am well aware that I just did the thing I said I didnt want to do, but I did it with a British Accent, so there. Your criticisms have been rendered meaningless by my expert rebuttal).

[@ryuzakikurai711]

The animals being poorly educated sheeple doesn't fly when Benjamin demonstrated intelligence comparable to the pigs on several occasions. He was basically being set up as the solution only to be ignored at the tail end of the book for the sake of a tragic ending.

[@night-seeker666]

@@ryuzakikurai711 The reason Benjamin does nothing in the books has to do with his cynical attitude that the movie never explored.

[@brandonlyon730]

@@ryuzakikurai711Benjamin was extremely cynical, he knew how everything really was but he knew he would never get anywhere explaining to a bunch of idiot animals. He knew the game was rigged from the start and pointing it out would do nothing but get him killed by the pigs.

[@plugshirt1684]

@@ryuzakikurai711 one person with intelligence isn’t enough when everyone is brainwashed already and fearful plus if they tried anything they would most likely lose to the nine dogs. Funnily enough some of them are literal sheep

[@plugshirt1684]

@@saberswordsmen1 to be fair though they did only do the allegories of four characters

[@pyr821]

10:07 Chickens: Rebel against the pigs Napoleon: orders the dogs to kill the cat for no reason

[@Antonio-fj5gs]

Me: oh my god Ok lol.

[@3D-6]

It said that the innocent die with the guilty

[@felipemontero1087]

Almost as if Communism kills everyone for no reason

[@doublebubblebarb7606]

Right? I don’t understand that

[@safiramisantrop8263]

Animal Farm... from George Orwell... author of the 1984... for kids. Right :D Someone needs a little lesson from history of literature :D

[@bigmeknurgle]

animated movies featuring talking animals aren't normally bought by adults for adults to watch. But yes, you know the origin, mad props. Shame you're not clever enough to realise that it ended up in many children's video libraries because of the visuals, not the subject matter. _You'll laugh! You'll cry a little! At the antics of the animals on Animal Farm! The wonder-full length technicolour cartoon!_ - on the front cover of the VHS case "Yeah, that'll keep little Timmy quiet for an hour or two, into the shopping basket it goes." Aaaaand that's why it's always been referred to as a kids movie. Yeah, 54 years later you're so smart for catching on. Gimme a fucking break, lady. Learn your own damn history.

[@safiramisantrop8263]

@@bigmeknurgle I remember writting this, bud I didn't know it sound that stupid. Anyway, I know that it ended up in children's hands because of visuals. Every animated movie is for kids, right. And I also find that stupid cover. It took me a little time, but I find it, and it's stupid, bud the adults should known better, bud I can understand they need break, so the people should let known better, that Animal farm is not for kids.

[@notaseagull3320]

I think the real problem is the marketing and/or making an animated film that looked just like classic Disney movies.

[@therecklessabandable]

@@safiramisantrop8263 He's not talking about the book though. He's talking about a film funded by the CIA to be marketed to children so that they are indoctrinated against communism before they can understand what it is. The film just happens to be an adaptation of a book that wasn't meant for children

[@butlerstarheart9679]

99% This film isn't meant for kids. Just because it look like a Disney's movie cloned. 99% The same time when Disney release Sleeping Beauty and Lady and the Tramp one year before, or after. Even the birth of Saturday Moarning Cartoons. How weird & obscured for animation's that decade

[@jessebrown1996]

It was literally rated G on release................

[@izzycrybaby1164]

All of Disney's movies themselves are spin-offs of dark stories. Google "Brothers Grimm". And the movies that weren't inspired by those dark tales often had racist undertones in them back in the old days.

[@Greggers1516]

The movie definitely isn’t as notorious as the book. Don’t see how you reached that conclusion

[@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615]

I didn’t know that there was a movie lol and this definitely was never meant to be a kids book/movie

[@luigi7834]

I have read the book and heard about the live action movie but I've never seen this one until this video

[@gravediggey6016]

The movie didn't have as much of a dark ending as the book.

[@bruhmoment6204]

@@gravediggey6016 what happened during the end ?

[@jacknewell1847]

@@bruhmoment6204 In the end, the animals watch the Pigs and Men playing cards, congratulating each other on how well they had tricked the animals into working for their benefit. The last paragraph shows that they where no longer able to tell the cruelty of the Pigs from the cruelty of the Men, saying: “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

[@ming-tachang988]

I remember watched this film on Taiwan's TV once about 1989-90. I was shocked when Boxer was taken and Benjamin chasing the wagon part, I was hoping that something would happen to save that poor horse as what would happened in most Disney's films. Few years later I had chance to read the book in 9th grade literature and suddenly remembered the film I watched as kid. Great book and film, too bad that is not well known in Asia.

[@Tippex_Official]

Steve: why when we brits get involved in animation, it’s always about animal cruelty? Me: well, when you consider that peppa pig is a psychopath, yeah.

[@sillycat103]

I mean she DID eat bacon that one time

[@AhmedEx1.]

@@sillycat103 excuse me *what*

[@ryuzakikurai711]

Tbf everyone in that universe is a psychopath

[@mechagodzilla3674]

hey you plague doc too

[@serenitythesiren5031]

My friend once told me about this episode of Peppa pig when Peppa was eating Sausages in the kitchen and Daddy pig came in and asked where George wasXD

[@Teag_Brohman15]

Orwell would've hated the Ending to this movie

[@plugshirt1684]

Yeah it feels like they wanted a happy ending to the movie but it just doesn’t fit at all and degrades the message

[@72o0_Tehran]

To be fair,it basically predicted the collapse of the soviet union

[@KrimCLmusic]

I think the Movie’s Ending can be interpretated as a cycle, since the new Leader would also repeat the previous leader’s (Napoleon) actions, pretty much like politics most of the times

[@RaeNapier64]

ANIMAL FARM WAS NEVER MEANT FOR CHILDREN!!!!! IT WAS BASED OFF A GEORGE ORWELL NOVEL. A TYPICALLY DARK ADULT CENTRIC AUTHOR WHO SPECIALIZED IN POLITICAL/SOCIAL COMMENTARY. IF YOU LET YOUR CHILD READ/ WATCH HIS WORK THEN THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOT OURS

[@ammla8219]

Rae Napier Ik

[@cyperus4589]

I REALLY HATE SHOUTING ONLINE!!!!

[@jacobmorrison4480]

I’m doing the book for gcse

[@Shift12]

Was looking to see if someone else had mentioned this fact. Just because its a cartoon that doesn't nesecarrily mean that it's for children, for an extreme comparison would you let a child watch Fritz the Cat? Or would you say Fritz is suitable for children?

[@Purplefire0796]

Rae Napier my high school made me read and watch Animal Farm. This was the first year of high school at least for me

[@felinoidrose]

6:04 animals in minecraft taking damage

[@floproro4]

Minecraft animals revolting against the players for attacking them:

[@oakleyjacket7922]

6:57 “Seven Commandments could be in effect reduced to a single maxim, namely “four legs good, two legs bad” This, he (snowball) said contained the essential principle of Animalism. Whoever had throughly grasped it would be safe from human influences. The birds at first objected, since it seemed that they also had two legs, but snowball proved to them that this was not so “A bird’s wing, comrades,” he said, “is an organ of propulsion and not of manipulation. It should therefore be regarded as a leg. The distinguishing mark of man is the hand, the instrument with which he does all his mischief” -Animal farm book by George Orwell, page 34, paragraphs 1 and 2

[@davidhatcher7016]

no

[@oakleyjacket7922]

Yes

[@jayesper4390]

Good for him that ostriches and the like are conspicuously absent from farms.

[@wanderer_42_]

K

[@Ludovicus1769]

When you said that the CIA funded it, I couldn’t stop laughing, I knew what the book was about.

[@Iamjustthatguy]

When he was taking about the part of how napoleon controlled the animals in the farm it reminds me of the book 1984

[@vin5486]

@@Iamjustthatguy they were written by same authors too

[@Sumautisticguy]

The CIA made sure the ending was changed so napoleon was overthrown

[@kaisaleh7268]

Right???

[@lunablanca4784]

For more context: Orwell supported Spain's Republic (this means there was no king, it not the same meaning the US gave to the word Republican). This didn't mean Spain was becoming a communist country, just that there was no king. No country supported this republic as much as some (in that moment) fascist countries supported the rebels. Ironically enough, the US negotiated with Spain's former dictator when they considered the country an ally to stop communism.

[@TheKnightLikeGamer]

The book is way scarier than the movie, seriously read it. Or watch the music video for "the nature of the beast " it tells a really good modern version of it

[@allyy0870]

DUDE I KNOW THAT YOU WERE JUST BRINGING THAT UP BUT LIKE I LOVE ICE NINE KILLS, THE BAND THAG MADE THAT SONG, TO DEATH AND I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SCREECHED WHEN I READ THIS COMMENT-

[@bestrobloxparodies5624]

The book is pretty a-ok

[@b_crystals]

“The animals looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again, but it was already impossible to tell which was which” I GASPED AT THAT

[@quirkykirkplays]

7:08 I seem to recall in the novel this was explained by saying that wings are a limb of locomotion rather than manipulation, so they did count as legs. It's been a few years since I read the book though

[@Bbillnyethe]

I believe you are on the money

[@mckaylamarille8630]

That sounds pretty accurate

[@samirjohnson4524]

I am currently reading the book for a book review, and I can confirm that this is indeed accurate to the novel.

[@chupacadabra5161]

Steve: So, the animals start to build Snowball's- Napolean: *REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* Steve: I mean Napolean's windmill.

[@ubdrift5904]

LOL

[@ubdrift5904]

@LordDonut1122 I think it means 4 leg animals and 2 leg humans/farmers

[@ubdrift5904]

@LordDonut1122 thank you for knowing what they mean

[@BrownGaijin]

Nice!

[@KonjakTheSober]

In the book they say that fourlegs are good and two legs are okay if you also have wings

[@anon9579]

They declare that because wings are a means of propulsion not manipulation thats what the book says

[@johnnyjoestar6478]

KonjakTheSober because wings are a tool of propulsion and not manipulation

[@videohistory722]

Then towards the end, it's changed to four legs good, two legs BETTER.

[@Spoonable]

videohistory722 cause the pigs started walking in two legs I think

[@ThatOneKaijuFan]

When the hogfather pig died, i got an ad for the wendy’s baconator and couldn’t stop wheezing

[@themaskedhec9596]

Copied

[@Anthony-hi7bw]

Had to watch it in 7th grade, we knew it was violent, we watched it because we were learning about communism and soviet Russia and North Korea. I remember “all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others” written on the barn by the pigs, dark movie.

[@SwedishEmpire1700]

As it should be, but i doubt they show this at all anymore since it would upset the commie kids.

[@khldwb1425]

Hobo same

[@Anthony-hi7bw]

jandm600 yeah it is and our teacher told us that.

[@toastedpigs4552]

Hobo I’m in grade 7 rn and my teacher made us watch it because we were learning about communism

[@Anthony-hi7bw]

Krmet its all propaganda, the American school system hasn’t been updated since the industrial revolution, so grade 7 social studies is learning about hostile nations and rogue countries. You might learn about North Korea as well.

[@Fubukio]

Animal Farm is not all bad... It makes eating bacon much more satisfying.

[@otaldoperes]

Truth is Truth

[@Artizap_]

Yes I wanted to take that little bitch Squealer and turn him into bacon. Sadly, he’s just a fictional character.

[@gameknight9956]

Dang you need more agreement

[@Matkaizer08]

And that's why pigs are for eating and nothing else!

[@penguinhowser8459]

I want to eat Napoleon

[@faheemhaque739]

Steve: you sickos Me: ........ aren’t you the one who is reviewing this?

[@Loopimay]

Hey, he never said he wasn't a sicko too

[@jatman9556]

We are sickos too for watching this review sooooo :/

[@wlf-kidri7008]

Shit, I love gory movies. Regardless. I'm glad I found his channel because I've seen some great creepy and fecked up movies.

[@Joannefibracs9994]

Nah, he’s got us pegged

[@CJ-hp6fb]

Fun fact: Orwell's real name is Eric- the reason why he changed his name is that he didn't want ppl to know his true name or identity and he also wanted to start fresh when he started writing articles.

[@MyUniqueBeauty]

Four legs good, two legs bad! Four legs good, two legs bad! Four legs good, two legs bad!

[@reese1719]

Four legs good, two legs better! Four legs good, two legs better! Four legs good, two legs better!

[@CarlosAugusto-rv6op]

Orange man bad

[@raynova8055]

But... the geese...

[@harlanrichards4765]

@@reese1719 fuck he beat me to it

[@justinalder954]

Birds dude (We all read the book)

[@dr.bright6272]

Man: *okay I have this loaded gun, what can I use it for? Oh I know, a bat!*

[@justmetal227]

you can see that with each confrontation also the force escalates more and more

[@SangerZonvolt]

"They won´t see it coming!"

[@parrot1442]

This mans a Genius..... I like using my gun like how I use my guitar.... LIKE A BAT

[@jebcoe]

Snowballs reasoning of Wings are legs goes like this. (From book btw) Wings are limbs of propulsion, as are legs, while arms are limbs of manipulation. Four Limbs of Propulsion good, two limbs of manipulation bad.

[@burntbacn]

That... actually does make sense.

[@TheLuigiBrother77]

@@burntbacn its not meant to make sense

[@littlemoth4956]

@@TheLuigiBrother77 What?

[@TheLuigiBrother77]

@@littlemoth4956 snowballs reasoning isnt meant to make sense

[@Jordan-wc6nh]

TheLuigiBrother77 but it does make sense

[@LOLPot24]

"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

[@savathunthewitchqueen8299]

Fun fact: i had to watch this for my 7th grade American history class to learn about dictatorship vs democracy. I wasn't traumatized at all as a child, but the scence to where most were killed did scare me a little bit.

[@mediatorraptor3349]

I watched it by accident on youtube as kid. I still dont know how managed to watch the whole movie as kid.

[@unsuspiciousdweller8967]

Glad to see other kids watched this as well. Same thing happened here in australia

[@rbswords2353]

Differences are: no Molly,the carthorse,Moses the raven isn't there to tell them of Sugar Hill Mountain, the animals are ignorant to "Boxer's" demise,Boxer never says"I will work harder."No name of the mother dog Jessie,no show trials of many animals,Snowball doesn't die,he just flees,a dog attacks Boxer,Old Major dies later on after their meeting,no Mrs Jones here,Squealer isn't mentioned,obviously the pigs aren't taken down at the end.They don't even call each other "comrade" like in the book.

[@night-seeker666]

First of all, it's Sugarcandy Mountain, not Sugar Hill Mountain, that's just ridiculous. Second of all, I think its implied that Snowball is killed. Third, Squealer is mentioned and appears in the film. Finally, the pigs DO refer to each other as comrade.

[@lambadajewo.4143]

In the book it was said that nobody has ever seen Snowball again after he's been banished, but it's never said that he died.

[@vivaciousmyosotis]

Also Boxer has said I will work harder

[@vivaciousmyosotis]

Also the ribbons were pink in the movie and green in the book

[@lambadajewo.4143]

@@vivaciousmyosotis If I remember correctly, they were red. People used to put the red ribbons in manes of biting horses.

[@grumpy_roo]

I remember we read the book, watched the animated AND live action movie back in English class in 9th grade. It was indeed fucked but it didn’t scar me that bad. It was kinda intriguing ngl

[@spazman7735]

Hi moxie

[@grumpy_roo]

@@spazman7735 Hello there, Al

[@spazman7735]

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[@Void_Wars]

What the hell?

[@Avarice297]

@@Void_Wars I know, super cringy.

[@singamummy8420]

The scene where boxer is taken away and benjiman is running after him makes me cry every single time

[@simplychaff1875]

Did you really say that the movie is more well known than the book? The book has sold over 30 million copies dude.

[@awolfnamedgarry8633]

*(Didn't even know there was a movie, has done three essays on this and loves the book to death)*

[@quantum6692]

@@awolfnamedgarry8633 bold for attention and also is a furry. mental illness at its best

[@tvoovm7254]

@@quantum6692 trolling at its finest... for your dumbass.

[@awolfnamedgarry8633]

I was implying that I have researched this so many times and still didn't know there was an animated movie, showing how well known it was. @@quantum6692.

[@juicyjuustar121]

Yeah, like wtf. I didn't know there was a movie of it until now.

[@supernovatv9514]

8:03 in the book, Snowball never actually dies; I don’t think we ever learn what actually happens to Snowball.

[@samishes1434]

What we know though is that Trotsky dies in Mexico 1940 from mysterious circumstances and since Snowball is based on him, we can presume that he died in the book as well.

[@supernovatv9514]

Mr Universe ...yeah, Snowball most likely died at some point in the book, but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t killed immediately after being driven out of the farm, as it was implied in the video. We’re never explicitly told either way, but in the book, it’s at least implied that he makes it out successfully. Hence why Napoleon blames him for the destruction of the first windmill they try to build.

[@samishes1434]

@@supernovatv9514 yeah sure, but Trotsky didn't die till years later too

[@someman66]

Actually, I think that the book says that he died, but in "another farm".

[@westonkouryfan69]

It doesnt say whether he lived or not, but it does say he lives at a neighboring farm then napoleon just uses this to say he has been spreading the wrong message?? Its been a while since ive read it but i think thats it

[@3digitsonthebac156]

No-one: Any animal on Animal Farm: *C O M R A D E*

[@LadyGrey260]

No Name Oml your profile pic is perfect for this

[@AlfredPennyworth2017]

Yes just yes

[@yeethittter1285]

No-one: Sheep: *_four legs good, two legs bad_*

[@papastalin8656]

NOICE

[@autisticduck3071]

Lucky Vine It's time for a rebellion against memers comrade!

[@burleybater]

I recall Animal Farm as a nice lite read just on the downside of middle school, still just barely young enough to appreciate the fantasy fun and frolic. Those were solid Cold War days (the October crisis just fading backward in the rear view mirror). And even a kid could sense the allegorical symbolism of animals behaving like humans. I always thought of Animal Farm as a perfect predecessor to 1984, which showed up in my life a couple of years later, 'round about grade 8. Which led to high school wanderings through The Road to Wigan Pier and Down and Out in Paris and London. My main beef with Orwell at that time was that there just wasn't enough of him. Other than John Wyndham, there weren't enough other distractions from that particular era. I always suspected from the get-go that Orwell utilized the natural affinity that kids have for animals to create a kind of primer in authoritarian tyranny, easy to understand and translate into real-world terms as we grew up.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

My parents brought this movie home from the local library for my sister and I to watch; they thought it was supposed to be some cute little kids' movie about farm animals. My sister and I watched it alone together and the horse getting his knees shot out plus when he was dragged to the glue factory traumatized us both. We were both very much left wondering "What ungodly movie did we just watch?"

[@realyoriginalchanel3218]

It was supposed to be methapor for communism. It was badly marketed to children as the book is supposed to be a social commentary.

[@lambadajewo.4143]

It was literally marketed using the slogan "you will laugh and cry a little", yeah...

[@bilbowagons7932]

Old Major = Karl Marx Napoleon = Joseph Stalin Snowball = Leon Trotsky Boxer = working middle class Squealer = Institutional Propaganda/managers Moses =Institutional Religion This whole movie has communism written all over it

[@scarletshadow4548]

Snowball=Trotsky

[@boistired6825]

your phone isn't cracked Old Major: Lenin Farmer Jones: Nicolas II Boxer: the good worker

[@natalijatheghost]

That's what it was based on

[@jacoba3422]

your phone isn't cracked Second war= more like the battle of Stalingrad

[@sophiatalksmusic3588]

Boxer= the working class, Moses the raven= religion, Mollie= the bourgeoisie

[@JetSetWave]

You know its bad when even the Crow turns its head in horror.

[@ushankabg]

Did you know? In France is illegal to name your pig Napoleon.

[@annabanana7659]

Ah yes, back when I was eight, my mum bought VHS copies of Watership Down, Felidae, Animal Farm and Grave of the Fireflies along with Disney movies and Anastasia. I can still hear my parents whispering 'Wtf is this?' while watching in the living room. It really explains my morbid sense of humor.

[@AlphaTengua]

the last unicorn lol

[@annabanana7659]

@@AlphaTengua Funny enough, I didn't watch it until I was an adult. The harpy in that film was... interesting.

[@TheDragiix3]

GRAVE OF FIREFLIES FUCK THAT MOVIE

[@annabanana7659]

@Cøøp Two years late reply sorry about that. No, Animal Farm isn't really that well known in my country. Most of our literature revolves more on Noli me Tangere, El Filibusterismo and other Filipino stories.

[@lurch1628]

Steve’s childhood: *exists* Animal farm:I’m about to end this man’s whole career.

[@mohify2174]

I'm you're 100 like I'm excepting a thank you

[@lurch1628]

Mr. Chap thank you.

[@mohify2174]

@@lurch1628 :3

[@AriaCodfish]

Plague dogs: Aww! That’s cute.

[@Akeboun]

One could argue it started it...

[@reallylongsnake]

The animated film actually stays fairly true to the original themes of the book, with only a few very minor changes. Most highschools in america have this book somewhere in their curriculum where every bit of it is dissected as the giant political metaphor that it is

[@antonioricaud5308]

A better word would be political satire or allegory.

[@bellarawding6470]

we got it in england too lmao

[@trickstercj4366]

My school used it as summer reading where you could either: a. Write a character study or b. Take a test to skip said study. I took the test and failed it since I didn't want to read and didn't read it. So I had to write the character study. I somehow found the book lying down in my school's gym/cafeteria and took it for my own and started reading it every day after school. I was throughly surprised how much I enjoyed the book all things considered.

[@zeehero7280]

It should be required reading. too many people these days think socialism is somehow NOT evil.

[@tanimation7289]

The biggest change is the ending.

[@alwaysconfused1641]

I will say, the book does a wonderful job showing how Napoleon and Squealer (his right-hand) use propoganda to get the animals to believe everything they say. The animals don't just accept it; they are threatened by the dogs, given the idea of the old farmer coming back if they don't listen, and are blatantly gaslit over, and over, and over again. It's also noted that the large majority of animals can't read, and don't have good memory - which is why Squealer's gaslighting works so well. In the book, Squealer also trains the lesser educated, blindly loyal sheep to bleat "Four legs good, two legs bad!" every time someone wants to disagree with Napoleon, ensuring that his opposition's voices are literally never heard. By the end of the book, they are taught to bleat "four legs good, two legs BETTER!" as the pigs start walking on their hind legs. But this is comparing two completely different mediums. I think the movie loses the layers of symbolism the book has, but it still gets the message across. Plus all these extra details would have likely driven the movie way over budget.