My Secret to Higher Wind Turbine Output

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Offgrid Steve (Off-Grid Living)

Offgrid Steve (Off-Grid Living)

Күн бұрын

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@kendenton6061
@kendenton6061 6 жыл бұрын
I worked on helicopter rotor hubs and blades when I was in the army. The same principal applied there too. We used a tri-pod balance setup that had a bubble level in the center and we placed washers on the blade pin bolts until the bubble was centered. Took quite a while but the hubs "HAD" to balanced or vibration would be introduced in the system when the helicopter was in flight and cause big problems with the gearboxes and driveshafts. Very good advice for wind turbines too. Great vid.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! Less vibration makes everything last longer - even me!
@johnkidd1226
@johnkidd1226 4 жыл бұрын
Ya, any tire shop probably has a bubble balancer and could do this for you for a few bucks. The further out from the hub you can place the weights, the less weight you will need.
@PrepperMountainSolutions
@PrepperMountainSolutions 9 жыл бұрын
A prepper mountain suggestion. Using a tape measure and a piece of 3" angle iron you can discover the weight distribution of your blades. By balancing the blades, one at a time you can see if if weight is needed on the hub end, or the tip and where each blade self balances. A penny indexed and epoxied into the blade is easy to do but once you get all your blades tested on the angle iron you can then use those measurements to each center point to get a means point. I may do a video showing how I get high RPMS from perfectly balanced blades using a scale, and a differential balance method.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Prepper Mountain (Prepper Mountain MD) I would like to see your method - especially if it's better than mine. Don't keep that knowledge to yourself!
@PrepperMountainSolutions
@PrepperMountainSolutions 9 жыл бұрын
Steve Robertson Its a simple method. If I have the time I will make a video on it. So many who buy blades out of China and Missouri are in need of ways to balance them.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Prepper Mountain (Prepper Mountain MD) Agreed.
@KILLKING110
@KILLKING110 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Robertson (Off-Grid Living) I keep finding out just how bad the M company is they must have a really bad reputation among the informed consumers
@johnkidd1226
@johnkidd1226 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, balancing will eliminate a lot of shaft and bearing wear as well. Easiest way to go is sticky wheel weights available from any tire shop. Work like a charm.
@vartilaknovehestum4947
@vartilaknovehestum4947 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative video. I have solar and hydro electric power. I'm looking forward to adding wind turbines since I'm completely off the grid here in Puerto Rico.
@flyingtools
@flyingtools 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very helpful video sir. I will put down my rotor and balance it because I saw that I have some vibration after I install it. Thank you so much👌🏻
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind card moment!
@kurtsimmons1587
@kurtsimmons1587 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this! Kind of using it like a plumb bob! I think we all should put turbines up but a lot of places you are not allowed! I will look and see if a VAWT is allowed where I’m at.
@aldesrochers
@aldesrochers 9 жыл бұрын
Great to hear you sharing that neglected subject on turbines.. That is a MUST TO KNOW tip for the enthousiast...Thanks Steve for sharing.. Glad to hear from you
@TheBloke
@TheBloke 9 жыл бұрын
You are right it is important to balance your blades. You can sometimes tell just by looking at them, you will notice a slight wobble then you know it is time to take them down and do what you did. But it is always better to do it first.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
As you can tell Alan, I forgot to balance them before I put them up. They made a little noise on startup that was annoying, but now we barely hear anything. Thanks for your input.
@Xx-xd3zo
@Xx-xd3zo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I'll bet it helps output a lot and maybe noise, too. Appreciate it, sir.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
X x thanks for joining me. Glad to have you along!
@terrenceking5855
@terrenceking5855 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and common sense. Number blades if you need to balance in one place and put in place in another.
@spockmcoyissmart961
@spockmcoyissmart961 8 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that unbalanced blades will ultimately destroy bearings.
@WINDGENEERING
@WINDGENEERING 9 жыл бұрын
Another great video. The reason way balanced rotors make so much more power is that they defeat the *concentric disresonance phenomenon*
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
It does make a huge difference in output!
@duminicad
@duminicad 7 жыл бұрын
do you happen to have tested the output before and after balancing the blades? thanks!
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
If you're wanting a scientific, well-measured test, then the answer is no. But if you're wanting the opinion of a man who observed before and after, I observed probably a 20% increase in output at higher wind speeds above 15mph. The mast didn't have that annoying vibration anymore, and the whole thing smoothed out nicely. I had very dirty wind in that location as well because it was located at a position at my roof where the wind approached coming off the roof up-slope.
@duminicad
@duminicad 7 жыл бұрын
thanks, that's what I was looking for, I've read some people complaining about the 300W wind turbines that they generate about 30-40W in 50mph winds, was trying to see if there's any correlation between balanced and almost 10X lower output. currently interested in installing a 3-400W turbine or PV panels, after a few videos, looks like PV panels are a better bet
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer pv over wind just because there are no moving parts. But in the real world where there is little sun in the winter and a little wind turbine really helps!
@rickiewilson2018
@rickiewilson2018 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute fantastic video thank you so much I wasn't aware of this balance in thing thank you again
@Chimonger1
@Chimonger1 6 жыл бұрын
Bet this same applies to double helix blades....except it’ll be trickier to balance those, attached as they are at both ends of the axis.
@tedbat7264
@tedbat7264 6 жыл бұрын
You are a legend, thank you. Where I live they want $350 and up to balance your blades. You know what I said right...
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@clementpowell2930
@clementpowell2930 4 жыл бұрын
Very good info Steve, really really helps, lol just looking some info on the best design for low wind start up
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 4 жыл бұрын
Clement Powell thank you!
@TheHonestPeanut
@TheHonestPeanut 5 жыл бұрын
This is really, really cool and I honestly appreciate this wisdom... I have such a hard time with the absence of the e on turbine though lol
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@dufus2273
@dufus2273 6 жыл бұрын
I can see where that would make a difference. New coveralls look so clean.
@closertothetruth9209
@closertothetruth9209 7 жыл бұрын
over 100,000 views not bad once i balanced my windy nation blades i finaly got the rated output of 750w, prior to that all i could get was 600w at 30mph no matter what, youre right it makes a Big difference. i noticed with some of my turbines i could just move the blades left or right to shift the weight and re tighten blade to hub bolts once balanced, i now use a stock standard free running car alternator bolted to the side of an upright pole to balance them, man it works nice , i got the idea from billy.
@MrErique505
@MrErique505 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, I purchased a 400 watt wind turbine from China, it has a four hole flange at the base but have no where to start on mounting this on a pole.
@mmeyer9317
@mmeyer9317 5 жыл бұрын
Erique Horne I had the same problem, I can help you..
@wabuminifarm3437
@wabuminifarm3437 9 жыл бұрын
This is a excellent and inexpensive way to balance Turbine blades and the Blade hub ,, thanks for sharing, I have a 3 blade set that I been having trouble with, this might fix it :)
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Jason Brown Thank you sir, and Happy Thanksgiving!
@bryanmcghee1109
@bryanmcghee1109 9 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve. Any rotating assembly performs better if it is balanced. keep up the good work.
@Suavache
@Suavache 13 күн бұрын
De que material são feitas as pás do ventilador? Costumo cortar tubos de PVC para fazer as pás.
@loudiorio6995
@loudiorio6995 7 жыл бұрын
Steve took advantage of no wind tonight -went out to the base of the tower and measure ohms got betweem 3.5 to 4.5 between leads(1-2,1-3,2-3). then measured each one to ground-meter started around 400 then finally setttled to 135 to 140 for each lead
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have a reading from any of the legs to ground. Did you have the rectifier disconnected when you took that reading? If that reading is true, you likely have a burned coil in the PMA. That would be caused by over-revving in a high wind (not very likely) or a lighting hit. Have you had some severe electrical storms?
@loudiorio6995
@loudiorio6995 7 жыл бұрын
yes i broke the connections at the bottom of the tower so the only wire i had was from the bottom of the tower to the turbine-i got the almost the same reading on all 3 legs--since i have been having trouble for a long time it could have been lighting-- Steve i think the best thing for me to do is just purchase another turbine from Thermodyne--would you get the same type SC48v 3 phase AC or another of there turbine with 3 phase
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
You can send it to them and they will rewind the coil and replace any defective parts for a more reasonable price than just buying a new one. Call them at 815-301-2908.
@mr.c6383
@mr.c6383 9 жыл бұрын
Good to see that you are making videos again. I've always found your info very helpful
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Mr. C Thanks for that feedback!
@hijodejahguide
@hijodejahguide 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect video, easy and well explained. Thanks and greatings from Lima, Peru.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@quackenstang
@quackenstang 6 жыл бұрын
I work for a major wind turbine blade manufacturer, 59meter blades, and we add weights to our blades to balance them.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
That's a monster blade brother! What are you doing in the toy section? LOL
@robertnash67
@robertnash67 6 жыл бұрын
Never thought of this, great tip. Thank you😊 Aloha from Maui.
@timlatimer620
@timlatimer620 4 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to make sure all blades were of equal length from center of hub first, then balance using your technique.
@martynharveythepoet5114
@martynharveythepoet5114 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Thanks Dude 🙂
@bobnrainy
@bobnrainy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud...useful advice!
@bonairecloudynightsobserva2297
@bonairecloudynightsobserva2297 5 жыл бұрын
great video. question: for 30 mph winds, 5 blades are better than 3?
@McCuneWindandSolar
@McCuneWindandSolar 9 жыл бұрын
nice video Steve. Good bit of info when needed. I best if I did that to the blades I have I might get more power or better performance. but I'm looking to upgrade to a much better turbine. I'm always power hungry and looking for more power.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+McCuneWindandSolar I understand brother. Being the tightwad I am, I just need something to help get me through the short-day winter months, and this pretty much fits my bill. I think there is a market for all kinds of wind turbines and I agree with you that everyone should work from the same indices. People like us providing feedback with each other ultimately makes everyone honest. It's good to hear from you Charles.
@sweenie58
@sweenie58 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever picked up the blades then set them down again on the nail to see if it's the same.
@kenv1288
@kenv1288 6 жыл бұрын
Although I agree with balancing drilling into a carbon fiber blade will create stress cracks not seen by the naked eye, a better solution would be mag style rim weights that self stick and once applied will not come off.
@stewartj00701
@stewartj00701 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, will be using this method
@KoosMulder
@KoosMulder 8 жыл бұрын
good example of thinking out of the box, proficiat!!!!
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Daamar.59
@Daamar.59 5 жыл бұрын
great video Thank you.
@TheOriginalAndysGarage
@TheOriginalAndysGarage 7 жыл бұрын
you also can go on Amazon and buy a lawn mower blade balancer for $5
@Slowhand871
@Slowhand871 6 жыл бұрын
Andy Adams or a nail in a wall.
@Cantreachthestars
@Cantreachthestars 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, mister Rogers
@davidrobinson7112
@davidrobinson7112 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive excellent outcome...
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 4 жыл бұрын
David Robinson thank you sir.
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 6 жыл бұрын
also when you mount them they will be at slightly I different places on the hub. if you take one off it will not be at the exact same place. moving around the weight. throwing off the balance slightly. then the slight differences in the density of the blades. when they get moved slightly. it moves the weight around . possibly more than you would think. I was just thinking what would be the easiest way to balance a turbine I'm building? thanks!!!!!,...
@kassiedreaneai7459
@kassiedreaneai7459 6 жыл бұрын
You made mention about balance at the hub end as well as at the tip end. I wonder if you have ever disassembled the blades to attempt this. I am aware of how propellers and gyro copter rotors are balanced at each end and then again after assembly as a whole unit like you did there. I imagine having an old bubble static wheel balancer might be somewhat useful for that also; not that I am in any way knocking your very simple and satisfactory method either. I wonder if you could tell me any pros or cons regarding pvp or other type shroud around the propeller to try to run more air through the blades. I know in various other situations shrouds have a beneficial effect such as tug boats for pulling; (lets face it; you will not be running that backwards which is the downside of this on a tugboat). Anyway it is just a thought. Additional weight; structure requirements; wind turbulence around brackets would all have to be considered cons in such an idea. I just wonder if it has been shown to increase efficiency at all of practical value. Maybe even turned tips similar to what some Jet wings have (the upturned ends). Again just a thought. A very good and practical video.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Kassie, you are EXACTLY what the world needs! I don't know how old you are, but if you're young I expect you to get into engineering and I hope to see your name next to some awesome inventions!
@AA-zm4ow
@AA-zm4ow 3 жыл бұрын
They have tilt kits which you tilt it up wards like a satellite works great 3-5 blade 48v ac pma 3 face , that helps to cut through the wind less resistance ,,, I heard there turning and modify ing vertical wind turbines 48v 3face pma n turning them side ways horizontal saying they work more better.
@oswaldoeulogio216
@oswaldoeulogio216 5 жыл бұрын
siempre me preguntaba eso de estar bien equilibradas y una burbuja en el aire que hace que no gire correctamente buen truco para equilibrarlos
@bernardsheehan5147
@bernardsheehan5147 9 жыл бұрын
Steve , love your videos I live in Newfoundlandcanada , where we have lot's of wind what is the model or cat# of the thermodyne generator ? . I see you went with the t-rex 5-blades what is the length or is there just one length? . How does the wind turbine stop when there is too much wind ? was thinking of using a 40 gal not water boiler separate from domestic hot water for use with a 30,000 to 45,000but coil heater and pump for household heating does this make sense or should I go through the domestic hot water boiler first and dump load too the second boiler ?. I want to use this to heat the house where I now have electric heat.Bernard
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Bernard Sheehan Bernard, these range of turbines don't really put out enough to achieve that. Everyone I know that owns this class of turbine averages about 500 watts output. We get over 1kw during occasional gusts, but I just wouldn't recommend it for you Northerners where you need real output. My turbine is great for keeping the edge off my batteries during out shorter winter days. The way this turbine governs itself is the number of blades. When it spins fast enough, those blades become like a wall the wind is pushing against and it simply stalls. That is like in it's simplicity. I would recommend contacting Orlando Sanchez in California. He manufactures what I consider to be the finest turbine available, and worth every penny. It's the Rolls Royce of turbines at a Cadillac price. His channel is here: kzbin.info/door/BN94HZHaKrRXkv1ZSQcxiA If you get a turbine capable of driving your coils, I would use them to heat the first boiler first so the second one will only use the amount of commercial power to finish heating the water to the desired temp. Good luck!
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Bernard Sheehan The model of my turbine is the 5 blade Commander.
@bernardsheehan5147
@bernardsheehan5147 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve will take your advice , keep up the videos. bernard
@daveken42
@daveken42 7 жыл бұрын
great video Steve, we live in an isolated area in North Eastern New Mexico do you have any recommendations for wind turbines or so many out there we don't know which one to look at
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
David, North Eastern New Mexico is some of my favorite old stomping grounds from Logan, Tremintina, Roy, Mosquero, Bard, Clayton, etc. I used to go to the Mesa Redondo cowboy camp meetings back in the day before it moved to Clovis. Anyway, there are a lot of options available. In my opinion, you need a good wind generator that furls out of the wind on those wide open plains because of those hellish Spring winds. I've started toying around with these very inexpensive wind turbines just as a lark. I recently purchased a tilter from hydrogenappliances.com and after I get it in the air I will make a video on my thoughts about it. Right now, my choice is PV panels. You can go solar for as little as 38c per watt, no moving parts, the monsoon rains wash them off, maintenance free. I would definitely suggest solar over wind any day.
@willembudde7512
@willembudde7512 8 жыл бұрын
First i wanna say, nice video, i bet you put lotta hours to adjusting the blades and calibrating the rotors, it's not an easy job, and defiantly not "plug N play" turbine, but ever thought to use a bigger pole & higher above the tree-top? perhaps it's more wind, and more output for your appliances. question are you planning to add solar panels later on or just stick with your turbine, and squeeze more juice out of it(tweaking turbine)
@willembudde7512
@willembudde7512 8 жыл бұрын
I subscribed you, i see your new video's coming in as notification, i think 4,8KW solar system is more than enough(at least you didn't overdue it)..
@ElRazTheGreat1
@ElRazTheGreat1 9 жыл бұрын
you could reduce the weight instead of adding weight. be well, Raz
@CarlVanDoren61
@CarlVanDoren61 9 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, amazed U consider drilling an screw into the blades? Hopefully an pilot hole then some loctite 242 blue? Afraid that will cause a fracture point in high winds?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+CarlVanDoren Um...Nope. Just screwed the weights right in. Been doing it from 1982-2001, and again for the last year or so. No issues so far.
@davidangelagredano
@davidangelagredano 6 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent observation.
@mikepruett1745
@mikepruett1745 5 жыл бұрын
how bout tape on wheel weights for cars too
@TomA-pt7en
@TomA-pt7en 5 жыл бұрын
Is there enough wind in Hawaii for a turbine?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Tom A there is enough wind in areas closer to the ocean. But I’m the rain forest where we’re located, there’s virtually no wind at all.
@bsalightning69
@bsalightning69 8 жыл бұрын
liked the info, haven't seen anything like it before, thanks!
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PeterWest70
@PeterWest70 6 жыл бұрын
good tip! thxs - what is the pitch on the blades?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know the blade pitch. It is the standard blades that come with the wind turbine kit.
@johnspirit6826
@johnspirit6826 4 жыл бұрын
Yes thanks great information which makes easy sense , apart from claims of wattage output l think , surely no matter how efficient the blades are the power output is limited by the generator/ alternator you are driving ? Am l correct ?
@Ihaveausernametoo
@Ihaveausernametoo 5 жыл бұрын
Great. Very very helpful. Is this usually a permanent installation? Thank you Steve.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Ihaveausernametoo I have used it as permanent installation lasting the life of the blades. Blades usually lasted me 2-5 years.
@Ihaveausernametoo
@Ihaveausernametoo 5 жыл бұрын
@@OffGridLivingSteve Marvellous! Good to hear. What limits the life-time? UV-damage or something else? Have any tips regarding the mast?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Ihaveausernametoo there are many factors, mostly depending on the geographic region they are operated in. In New Mexico, the sand in the wind would wear the tips way down as well as the leading edges. Pretty much anywhere you live, an occasional bird flies through the blades, disintegrating both bird and blade. I got into the habit of replacing them every two years anyway. Just the constant flexing in the wind causes them to fatigue, and eventually one will take flight into the neighbors property. That makes for pretty upset neighbors who already don’t appreciate a wind turbine next door. I’m 100% solar as of now
@Ihaveausernametoo
@Ihaveausernametoo 5 жыл бұрын
@@OffGridLivingSteve I'm in Sweden on the island of Gotland. Average wind is high here. Lots of birds too. I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps ultrasound could deter them. We've been successful deterring them from our market garden with it. It doesn't hurt them. But when they are already flying full-speed I dunno. I will do some tests. They longer the device is up the better is seems to work, as with rodents. I will take replacing blades into the cost estimation of the system. This is very good to know, thank you. Haha yes, I'm lucky I don't have neighbours nearby xD. One thing I'm searching scrap yards for is mast material, if I'm lucky I can save quite a lot on that. What did you do for mast? 100% solar? That's cool. Is it enough in the middle of winter? We get very little sunshine here from nov to jan, hence my interest in wind power. Plan is to oversize it and use a big humidifier as the dump load to make water (we're not allowed to use well-water for gardening).
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
Ihaveausernametoo I used a 7 meter pipe for mast. I can’t believe that governments are preventing us from using our own resources. In Colorado it is illegal to catch rainwater. Solar is difficult to live on year round-I have since moved to the tropics. Hawai’i.
@smoke_stackz3168
@smoke_stackz3168 4 жыл бұрын
Sir can u explain which one spin faster smaller blades or the longer blades turbine?😊
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 4 жыл бұрын
Randel Ruiz I do not know.
@linuxxxunil
@linuxxxunil 8 жыл бұрын
+1 on the comment for a level floor. Is the hub itself balanced? ie what is the foundation of balancing.
@rodneyhendrickson5094
@rodneyhendrickson5094 6 жыл бұрын
I love the look of your Blade's Can you tell me where you got them Or send me a link to where I can get Me a set I need some 48" long "Thanks ya buddy"
@royamberg9177
@royamberg9177 9 жыл бұрын
balancing is important for bearing life also along with metal fatigue. things can stress out in a hurry if conditions are right.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Roy Amberg Good point Roy!
@royamberg9177
@royamberg9177 9 жыл бұрын
One other thing is out of balance blades causes blades to track crooked which can destroy the blade set.
@ronwest7930
@ronwest7930 4 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel. I am curious if after all this time do you think a wind turbine is worth it? Some videos make it seem like they get nothing and others get a lot from their turbine. My thinking is that the turbine helps out, especially when the sun goes down.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 4 жыл бұрын
Ron West my honest opinion: most windmills live their lives in their lower range of production. Every time a bird flies through it, the blades are destroyed and neighbors don’t like blade shrapnel in their yards. Most end up being yard decorations as a conversation piece. Where I lived in Colorado, the only time the wind blew at night was during a storm, and at times severe enough to destroy the wind turbine. In my experience, as cool as wind turbines are to watch, solar panels are way cheaper, more reliable, no moving parts, and just plain better than a wind turbine any day.
@you5711
@you5711 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Steve. What motor, or generator, do you have connected to the turbine at 6:47? What model is motor/gen? Where did you buy it? Could you post a link for it? Thanks, Steve.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
hydrogenappliances.com/KT5.html
@you5711
@you5711 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve. It's a complete kit with turbine, motor/gen, and tail included. How does the motor/gen hold up in rainy weather? Also, when the frame spins around, don't the wires leading down from the pole get twisted? Wouldn't that damage the wires?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
The PMA is based on the AC/Delco alternator made for GM vehicles, and I can't think of a worse place to put anything than under the hood of a vehicle where water and dirt are continually splashed onto it during storms, the heat of the engine, etc. The design has proven it's reliability before it was even used as a basis for PMA. Eventually the wires do get twisted. I have watched it closely, and on average I get 1- 2 twists per year. So now I check the twists once every 4-5 years. I use welding cable for the down-leads because it is made for abrasion resistance (being dragged across concrete floors, dirt, etc.) But if you wouldn't be comfortable with having that setup, you can purchase slip rings separately, or find some other means.
@you5711
@you5711 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for replying, Steve. I greatly appreciate the information and insight.
@loudiorio6995
@loudiorio6995 7 жыл бұрын
hi Steve still having issues with my thermodyne 48volt 3 phase--having a storm with 15-18 mph winds most gusts at higher windspeed--have a Classic 250 with a cutin voltage of 60---most of the time it nevere goes above the 60 a few times it would go to 70 or 80 for a few seconds and drop to zero--never get and sustained power i have checked recheck wiring =options etc and ready to get another turbine- really need a turbine that is rated for like 60-70 volts not 48--so there i sufficient poweer to charge my batteries i did talk to Thermodyne and they said the could put a 120volt coil in one of there units with a max of 1000 watts comments or maybe another turbine that might help me tks lou
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
I sounds to me like you have a serious issue with the rectifier. Either it is wired incorrectly or the rectifier is bad and has an open circuit in one of it's legs or both. My turbine easily goes over 150V without a load on it (although it should always have a load). I would start with a calmer wind - around 15mph, and check the voltage coming out of the rectifier at the + and - terminals while disconnected from the controller. Also check the voltage across each of the 3 phases while the PMA is then disconnected from the rectifier - you should see well in excess of 80 volts in an unloaded condition on any of these tests. Try to not allow the PMA to over-spin - the importance of a steady light wind. Then when there is no wind at all, disconnect the turbine from the rectifier and measure resistance across each of the 3 phases. You should see a really low resistance (I don't remember how many ohms exactly, but maybe around 50 ohms). A reading of zero ohms will be a shorted phase in the PMA, where a reading of infinite ohms indicates an open circuit in the PMA - this will likely be from a lightning strike nearby on a tower and PMA not grounded well. Also, if you don't have your tower and PMA well grounded, you could take a hit from a nearby lightning strike that can blow the windings in the PMA coil and/or the rectifier. I have seen lightning even from just heat lightning induce the coils to a voltage way above their ratings - similar to the impact that EMP would have. Try those things and let me know.
@Jane-rq8qw
@Jane-rq8qw 6 жыл бұрын
This is a static balance. What you really need is dynamic balance. Like a car tire, flywheel, etc.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 6 жыл бұрын
That would certainly embody perfection in balance. But the law of diminishing returns applies here as it does in anything. Here I balance it to spin very well at nearly no cost. A device which would balance the opposing sides as well as the center balance itself would be of prohibitive cost. Particularly in a remote area as this.
@ImWatchinYou
@ImWatchinYou 6 жыл бұрын
You can dynamically balance it via static means by taking each blade off and balancing them to a common point center of gravity, Then when you put it together and balance the whole unit you add weight at the center of gravity to make the whole unit even. This is the method used for RC helicopters.
@johnkipruto8957
@johnkipruto8957 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the information,Do you sell small windturines of between 200w -400w?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
I am sorry sir. I do not sell wind turbines.
@jacobdavis000
@jacobdavis000 5 жыл бұрын
I've never done this task before, but wouldn't a small piece of tape out at the tip of the blade be better than putting more weight on the prop near the center?
@jacobdavis000
@jacobdavis000 5 жыл бұрын
Forgot to say: Great video. The balance jig looks like it works very well.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobdavis000 the closer to the tip, the more centrifugal force and the more likely to fly off
@Lightendog
@Lightendog 9 жыл бұрын
Great Idea! I guess one should make sure their floor is perfectly level first. I've noticed on my set some of the blades curl more then others and I tried to bend them back in shape to line up evenly when you spin them but they just don't seem to stay. A couple are off as much as an inch compared to the others......I gave up on it.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
+Lightendog I haven't had that particular trouble myself, although my original set of commander blades that came with my wind turbine had curl in them. I would suggest getting a newer set.
@Mrinfoone
@Mrinfoone 7 жыл бұрын
Hi.., I have a dc motor on a windmill setup with a high out put off 200v dc to 250 v dc. When I turn it one time turn fast it creates around 20v dc to 30v dc. How can I regulate it . So I can recharge my 12v battery bank. with out hurting my batteries?.., thxs
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
This is not really my area of expertise, but my personal experience has been that the best way to regulate wind is through the use of a load dump such as water heating. Doing that keeps a load on the wind turbine so the blades are less likely to overspin. Aside from that unfortunately, I'm not much help. I apologize, but I'd prefer to be honest and say I really don't know.
@AFLolowang
@AFLolowang 7 жыл бұрын
Just because of that, I'm subscribing.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your subscription - I hope you find many useful tips here, Assdhy!
@shaunofthedead3000
@shaunofthedead3000 7 жыл бұрын
Predrill your weights, use an extremely small amount of putty, like less than pea size, or tape while moving and they won't slip while you find the spot...
@jordanchohawno
@jordanchohawno 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve thanks for the video very helpful
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@dannpd1955
@dannpd1955 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. Great insight.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MuhammadAzeemET-F-
@MuhammadAzeemET-F- 5 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, Can you please tell me, what is the formula of DC genautor winding which we use in wind turbine plz sir
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
I am sorry, but that information is outside my area of expertise. There are several other channels that are dedicated to wind power that can provide very good information with just a bit of searching.
@MuhammadAzeemET-F-
@MuhammadAzeemET-F- 5 жыл бұрын
@@OffGridLivingSteve thanks sir
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
@@MuhammadAzeemET-F- you're very welcome. Thanks for dropping in!
@avrtony
@avrtony 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@edrifigueroa5381
@edrifigueroa5381 4 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde PR me gusta la idea quisiera hacer uno
@ricktreharne5910
@ricktreharne5910 7 жыл бұрын
There is a reason why Windmills have odd numbers of blades. It's so they do not stall in lower winds. It's not necessary to have perfectly balanced blades because you are not spinning at high enough RPMs to affect anything. In fact the odd number blade configuration creates a flywheel effect. Balancing is still a good idea though for smoother operation, but it does minimize slightly the flywheel effect. There are always trade offs.
@nlreeftank
@nlreeftank 5 жыл бұрын
where do i get good parts to build a wind turbine?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 5 жыл бұрын
hydrogenappliances.com
@ajay.g2354
@ajay.g2354 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Steve Robertson can you tell me which motor are you using I mean what is the RPM and where to source it thanks.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
I am using a 48VDC, 3000 RPM rated PMA from hydrogenappliances.com
@ajay.g2354
@ajay.g2354 7 жыл бұрын
and can you tell me what are the other parts list you are using?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
I use a pipe for the tower to mount it on. It also takes correctly sized wiring to go from the PMA to the batteries. A charge controller is also needed if you batteries are small and you live in a windy area. My preference is using solar instead of wind.
@rccooper4
@rccooper4 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I probably would have never balanced until I saw your video makes alot of senseWhat brand of PMA are you running.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
Richard C I use the Thermodyne wind turbine.
@mbxymail
@mbxymail 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how to make blade using PVC
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry Bill. I have since moved to Hawaii and no longer have a wing turbine. I’m 100% Solar now.
@fatninja212
@fatninja212 4 жыл бұрын
Can you or anyone please tell or show me the correct way to connect to my house, at the roof location. Just like he did on his. I cant find or figure how he did it. My Home Depot sucks no help there. Thanks
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 4 жыл бұрын
fatninja212 I used a conduit clamp.
@fatninja212
@fatninja212 4 жыл бұрын
@@OffGridLivingSteve Thankyou. I will look for it.
@fatninja212
@fatninja212 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any picture of yours I could look at. Just to see the proper way it looks. Thanks
@johnkipruto8957
@johnkipruto8957 7 жыл бұрын
Can you advice where I can purchase good quality wind turbine?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
There are websites for the genre of wind turbine I use here: hydrogenappliances.com/ mwands.com/store/
@rok1475
@rok1475 6 жыл бұрын
This is static balancing. What really matters is dynamic balancing that can only be done while the turbine is spinning. Just like balancing tires.
@carmelpule6954
@carmelpule6954 6 жыл бұрын
Since the turbine is a flat disc, static balancing is enough. If the rotating part had depth as in an armature or a et engine then dynamic balance is imperative as otherwise the rotating mass will wobble even if it is statically balanced to perfection.
@peacefulprepper2402
@peacefulprepper2402 7 жыл бұрын
How has the wind turbine been working.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
Peaceful Prepper Jim I will say I still love it. I got a new setup I still haven't yet installed. I'm being held up by everything from helping with other installations to jury duty!
@gmgdanielo
@gmgdanielo 7 жыл бұрын
Stick on wheel balancing weight would be easier
@thefaeryman
@thefaeryman 9 жыл бұрын
nice method, does this eliminate tower vibration? or at least reduce it
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 9 жыл бұрын
It will at least reduce if not completely eliminate tower vibration caused by imbalance.
@demis56
@demis56 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, what kind of battery bank/batteries are you using?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
I use AGM batteries, 400ah, 48VDC
@thomashopper6955
@thomashopper6955 7 жыл бұрын
Iam just putting my wind turbine together and its always good to find out neet tricks to gain more juice....
@livingstone6275
@livingstone6275 8 жыл бұрын
what blades were those and what pma is it they are installed on?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
I ordered the Commander turbine with Pantera blades. I believe it is an ultra core, but I'm not sure.
@dragonkukulcan
@dragonkukulcan 7 жыл бұрын
Great Information!
@2stage90
@2stage90 6 жыл бұрын
Could use stick on tire weights. Tire spins over 3000 RPM going down the highway...Justa thought.
@carmelpule6954
@carmelpule6954 6 жыл бұрын
That is a lot of speed.
@2stage90
@2stage90 6 жыл бұрын
If you look at Harbor Freight or Ebay they have a 'bubble balancer" this is what old school tire techs used for many years before computers, to balance tires. Your definitely saving the bearings doing what your doing. A+ On the vid!
@forhadhosen9834
@forhadhosen9834 7 жыл бұрын
which motor you used in this wind turbine AC OR DC?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
This turbine is considered to be DC, 2-wire.
@forhadhosen9834
@forhadhosen9834 7 жыл бұрын
thanx
@bjl1000
@bjl1000 8 жыл бұрын
don't you weaken the blade by putting a screw in it? why not just add washers to the existing bolts?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
+Frenchie I haven't had any problems in the 20+ years I've been dealing with wind turbines. The polyethylene is fairly flexible - it doesn't split like the old Sitka Spruce wooden blades would occasionally do.I think the washers on the bolt could be a good idea but there aren't a lot of threads to put more than just a couple washers.
@rrssmooth6643
@rrssmooth6643 7 жыл бұрын
LOVE THOSE OVERALLS. priceless
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
LOL There are occasions I like to wear 'em.
@mosfet500
@mosfet500 7 жыл бұрын
Good idea! Thanks.
@VAX1970
@VAX1970 8 жыл бұрын
What if your deck isn't level?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
+Vax Buster If you built your deck and it's not level, then you probably shouldn't be balancing blades.
@VAX1970
@VAX1970 8 жыл бұрын
Steve Robertson Most decking is built with a slight fall to allow natural drainage away from the building, therefore this method is suspect. Better to use a garage floor and check it with a builder's level first, or the whole process is a waste of time, never assume something is level without checking it first.
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 8 жыл бұрын
+Vax Buster As a course of etiquette I would have preferred you to have just said that to begin with. Thank you for your input, despite presenting it as a "gotchya".
@thehandyman6957
@thehandyman6957 8 жыл бұрын
What a dick. There has to be a jackass in every crowd.
@VAX1970
@VAX1970 8 жыл бұрын
The Handyman and that's you...
@eliasbourozrrrs8585
@eliasbourozrrrs8585 7 жыл бұрын
very nice ,thanks my friend,very import tip
@raymondpinkerton1723
@raymondpinkerton1723 7 жыл бұрын
Cool good job for the information
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@namelesscynic1616
@namelesscynic1616 5 жыл бұрын
Balancing blades on ceiling fans is critical so I guess it is the same principle.
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml 7 жыл бұрын
How much power does it make?
@OffGridLivingSteve
@OffGridLivingSteve 7 жыл бұрын
You can see the results here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm5lGNte7NsjJY
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