Meet the Klingons of Star Trek: DS9

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Steve Shives

Steve Shives

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▶Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
02:11 - Worf Comes to Town
08:48 - Kurn, Worf's Brother (But Not for Long)
13:29 - Martok, the Klingon's Klingon
16:23 - Sirella, the Klingon Beatrice
18:18 - From Chancellor Gowron to Chancellor Martok
22:18 - Kor Returns!
30:59 - Worf and Martok at the End of the Series
32:01 - Grilka
39:54 - And the Rest! (Ch'Pok and the Klingon Chef)
42:19 - Conclusion
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@JessieGender1
@JessieGender1 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the Strange New Worlds producers listened to you really quick
@SteveShives
@SteveShives Жыл бұрын
I know, right? If only the producers of PIcard took my suggestions so quickly!
@sueperb7374
@sueperb7374 Жыл бұрын
I hope Steve learns to use his powers for good.
@MeNoOther
@MeNoOther Жыл бұрын
Strange New Worlds can show both versions of the Klingons. TOS and TNG Maybe throw in some DIS Klingons just for explaining
@christopherddrew7555
@christopherddrew7555 Жыл бұрын
I was just coming back to your channel to say this exact thing
@JDSileo
@JDSileo Жыл бұрын
​@@SteveShives those producers listen to @redlettermedia
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that you skipped over Quark's most epic of verbal burns: "I am Quark, son of Keldar, and I have come to answer the challenge of D'Ghor, son of... whatever."
@kallisto9166
@kallisto9166 Жыл бұрын
Gowron was so shocked by Quark's marriage to Grilka that his eyes went all sane for a moment.
@balung
@balung Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@CaptainAndy
@CaptainAndy Жыл бұрын
Klingon honour is like Vulcan logic. Suspiciously flexible.
@Yora21
@Yora21 Жыл бұрын
That is kind of Worf's character arc. He is constantly seen as unworthy by the Klingon elite for not living up to their standards, but he's actually the only one who is still striving for the ideals of honor that none of them actually believe in anymore. His character resolution is to stop trying to gain their approval, and instead follow the values they only pay lip service to.
@jessicaluchesi
@jessicaluchesi Жыл бұрын
Kor, as far as feeling represented as a trans woman, you cannot beat "Oh Curzon, my beloved old friend...." " I'm Jadzia now" " Oh well, Jadzia, my beloved old friend!" . Still brings tears to my eyes.
@DangerousPuhson
@DangerousPuhson Жыл бұрын
Your Gowron impressions are a work of art
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 Жыл бұрын
In fact, they are. He nails it!
@abigfavor
@abigfavor Жыл бұрын
I really like JG Hertzler added the line "Unfortunately, my father did not live to see that day." and that he chose not to sing at the end. It really justifies Martok having all this venom for Kor
@JDODify
@JDODify Жыл бұрын
Haha, Steve, I love you Gowron impressions. Particularly, "bringing down a great house by fucking with its money"
@oooChickenatorXooo
@oooChickenatorXooo Жыл бұрын
Re: Martok and Sirella Recall that in TNG, Worf describes how during courtship, the woman screams and hurls heavy objects, while the man reads love poetry, and ducks a lot. It makes sense to me that Klingon men are almost universally attracted to women who display physical prowess, and/or some kind of aggression.
@jpboursaw4469
@jpboursaw4469 Жыл бұрын
And not just Klingon men!
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts Жыл бұрын
No wonder Scott and O'Brien got along so well with Klingons in general . . . .
@richdaley9982
@richdaley9982 Жыл бұрын
@@jpboursaw4469 For sure. I would not kick Grilka or K'Ehleyr out of bed for chasing me around with a Daqtagh. 😂
@this.is.a.username
@this.is.a.username Жыл бұрын
Klingon men are the subs in bed.
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 Жыл бұрын
@@richdaley9982 Neither would I. Nor the Duras sisters! 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈😻😻😻😻
@meredithcolias-pete5421
@meredithcolias-pete5421 Жыл бұрын
Martok’s wife wearing the pants is one of the most delightful DS9 moments. He is hands-down the best and most multi-layered Klingon in Star Trek history. Also shout out to how DS9 constantly makes fun of worf’s one-dimensional mindset.
@Yora21
@Yora21 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing about man doing manly things on the battlefield being the most important thing about their status and pride is because that's the place where they are all away from their wives and mothers. And throughout history across the world, the homes of knights and lords were often run by their wives full time. The old lady who taught my Japanese class said it was still quite common in Japan to hand over their whole wage to their wives who manage the household finances and then give them an allowance to spend for themselves. Which plays into why history recording was mostly about wars. That's the aspect of life where the boys were among themselves, telling stories about how cool and dominant they are.
@Andrew-pr9xv
@Andrew-pr9xv Жыл бұрын
Less than two minutes in and we've had a jab at Voyager... just need Picard, Enterprise, Picard and Picard for Bingo.
@silversam
@silversam Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about "Blood Oath" is the realization that, back in the day, Curzon Dax was probably the himbo in that crew. While the other 3 were crossing paths (and sometimes swords) with Kirk, Dax was probably counting poker chips he'd won off them the night before 😆
@adamlewitt788
@adamlewitt788 Жыл бұрын
This is my head cannon about why the three original series Klingon are best friends. In there careers they were all assigned to patrol/operate in the same sector of space where they all had run ins with Kirk. While patrolling said section of spaces they were each others backup and gained a respect for each other and became a strong unit of brother Captains.
@RobertJazo
@RobertJazo Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad you found a way to bring up the Klingon chef. There is no way he qualifies as a major Klingon character but I love that guy.
@bozzutoman
@bozzutoman Жыл бұрын
I don't think Kang, Koloth, and Kor just _happen_ to be best buds... I think it was _inevitable._ Each was a high ranking military commander who survived conflict with Kirk, during the height of the Klingon Empire. Surely these famous warriors would meet at some Imperial function; they would have shared experience to bond over while slamming mugs of blood wine.
@geoffwalker9210
@geoffwalker9210 Жыл бұрын
The Klingon Chef is such a great background character, and you can see a lot about him though just his unspoken actions. My favorite is one point you can see him playing the according while singing to his patrons. I always imagine all Klingons have the same thoughts about what they do as the warriors do. The Lawyers and Scientists, Chefs and Gardeners dedicate them in bringing honour and glory to their houses through their accomplishments. Their society values martial powerness but at the same time knows that a society ruled only by bloodshed cannot grow. It can be the basis of goverment though.
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 11 ай бұрын
That Klingon truly had a heart of gold and is a jolly fellow.
@DaneFalco
@DaneFalco Жыл бұрын
Just realized something. Worf was deeply connected with Martok's family. Joined his House, Martok and his Wife was represented at his wedding, but someone is missing. Martok's son. Remember him? He showed up at the first Episode of the Way of the Warrior, he and his flunkies beat up Garak, and Worf bitch slapped him and took his dagger just to get "Martok"'s attention. We never see Martok's son again. You would think that would have been an interesting story arc of his constant hostility woth Worf, chafing against him joining his house, how close he was getting with his father, maybe jealously as how Martok seemingly dotes on him more than his own son. Perhaps he could have been a turncoat to the Dominion because of it. Don't you hate it when Sons and Daughters just disappear....... BTW Worf, How's Alexander? Ever hear from him after your wedding?
@FestivalMercury
@FestivalMercury Жыл бұрын
My impression was that Martok killed him for losing his dagger.
@tonoornottono
@tonoornottono 9 ай бұрын
@@FestivalMercury i don’t think martok would do that
@sirB0nes
@sirB0nes Жыл бұрын
One of the things I've always found compelling about House of Quark is how it shows the unexpected similarity of Klingon and Ferengi values. Both Quark and Grilka take it for granted that it's totally legitimate for D'Ghor to try to take what belongs to Grilka--as long as he goes about it the right way. For Grilka, this means taking it by force; for Quark, it means being clever and out-maneuvering everyone.
@patrickdodds7162
@patrickdodds7162 Жыл бұрын
Love the shout-out to Ch'pok! He's one of the most interesting Klingons in the entire franchise. He wields the law like a normal Klingon warrior wields a bat'leth. (Little bit of trivia: one of Ch'pok's children appears in the role call in the DS9 episode, "Sons and Daughters". )
@Andrew-pr9xv
@Andrew-pr9xv Жыл бұрын
Rules Of Engagement is one of my favourite episodes of season four, and season four is almost entirely bangers from start to end.
@geekchris105
@geekchris105 Жыл бұрын
And Ch'pok arguably inspired one of the best Klingon episodes of enterprise too!
@this.is.a.username
@this.is.a.username Жыл бұрын
Always enjoyed that episode, considering Dorn played Klingon-attorney Worf, daddy of Mogh, granpappy of Worf, in STVI
@dr.moneypenny9748
@dr.moneypenny9748 Жыл бұрын
Oh man. I fucking love the scene when Worf kills Gowron. That moment when he takes off his comm badge and says that Gowron is not worthy of leading…fuck. The payoff of their character development across multiple episodes is just perfect. It’s my favorite scene in all of Star Trek.
@GeorgeMarionerd
@GeorgeMarionerd Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid and watching through DS9 for the first time, my friend spoiled for me that Jadzia would die, which I was very upset about because I like Jadzia and I hate spoilers. But that gave me a unique viewing experience. When I reached 'Change of heart', I fully believed that this was it. She was going to die. The characters go through near death experiences all the time but you never expect the main cast members to actually die usually; but knowing she would eventually die made that episode WAY more tense than it would've otherwise been. And when she didn't die, I got to be overjoyed at being wrong about her demise. Honestly, being spoiled improved my enjoyment of that episode tenfold.
@itsOasus
@itsOasus Жыл бұрын
Couldn't resist that dig at voyager could you :p
@mikeyfaux
@mikeyfaux Жыл бұрын
"That grape-stomping bullet-headed bastard" is a phrase that has me laughing still😂😂😂
@mutopis
@mutopis Жыл бұрын
Steve Shives: "It's ok to kill your favorite characters, you cowards." Also Steve Shives: "How could Worf kill Gowron!"
@IvanDobski
@IvanDobski Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the guy who played the Klingon Chef on DS9 is also the same person who voiced Bleeding Gums Murphy in the Simpsons.
@ericgeyer3213
@ericgeyer3213 Жыл бұрын
J.G. Hertzler also plays a Klingon lawyer, Advocate Kolos, in Enterprise's season 3 episode, Judgement.
@JDODify
@JDODify Жыл бұрын
I always think of them as samurai space pirates
@Tyr666Thor
@Tyr666Thor Жыл бұрын
Heavy metal Viking samurai space pirates
@Yora21
@Yora21 Жыл бұрын
Biker vikings also works.
@merafirewing6591
@merafirewing6591 11 ай бұрын
​@@Tyr666Thornow that is so metal.
@manoffewtalents9992
@manoffewtalents9992 Жыл бұрын
What they did to Kurn was a lot crueler than killing him. I also always wondered what happened to him, once Worf got his honor back. (If I remember correctly, I even thought about that when I first saw the episode because I was certain he would get his honor back at some point.)
@Yora21
@Yora21 Жыл бұрын
And the show presents it as if they solved the ethical problem of suicide.
@tonoornottono
@tonoornottono 9 ай бұрын
@@Yora21 as if preserving a heartbeat is the highest priority. really strange. the closest analogue we have in reality is a medically induced coma. the body is alive, the personality is dead or at least asleep. it’s functionally suicide, if you never wake up or remember who you are.
@joearnold6881
@joearnold6881 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they did that to Kurn, especially since Worf got his honor back
@realitypoet
@realitypoet Жыл бұрын
Dude, I love your Gowron impression… cracked up every time.
@cheddarssalad1230
@cheddarssalad1230 Жыл бұрын
Talking about Quark and Grilka, I’d love to see a take on Quark’s love life. I find it interesting that he is from an extremely misogynistic society and often outwardly agrees with it yet consistently is attracted to strong, independent women. Outside of Ezri, though most of the people attracted to Ezri seem to just be transposing their love of Jadzia. But, yeah, Quark wants Ferangi women to be naked in the home and every other woman to throw him across the room.
@Canoby
@Canoby Жыл бұрын
I truly hate what they did to Kurn, what a terrible end for such a cool character. At least they kept making new roles for Tony Todd through Voyager.
@screamingtongue
@screamingtongue Жыл бұрын
Conclusions drawn from this video: 1. Steve needs to do his Gowron voice at least once per video 2. Quark is actually the best Klingon. (In case Steve says that, I typed it here before I got to that point in the video)
@MyMagnificentOctopus
@MyMagnificentOctopus Жыл бұрын
I know how you feel. Last video about halfway through I typed in a "And the season of Picard ends with the revelation it was all a holodeck program on the ship Trip repaired on Enterprise Season 1", then Steve makes a joke about Archer shutting down the holoprogram.. damn it!
@MisterMoccasin
@MisterMoccasin Жыл бұрын
Your thumbnail made me think youtube was recommending be a Klingon version of A Hard Days Night for half a second... it was a beautiful half a second.
@AaronLitz
@AaronLitz Жыл бұрын
HA! 😀
@rudestlink
@rudestlink Жыл бұрын
You've never truly heard the Beatles untill you've heard them in the original Klingon....
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 Жыл бұрын
A Hard Day... Is A Good Day To Die.
@VocalClassics
@VocalClassics Жыл бұрын
Your summary of House of Quark brought tears to my eyes. Whip-smart writing
@Insanemage2001
@Insanemage2001 Жыл бұрын
Watching DS9 Klingon Episode: Yay Ferengi Episode: Meh Klingon AND Ferengi Episode: Perfection
@this.is.a.username
@this.is.a.username Жыл бұрын
@@Insanemage2001 how dare you
@kelseylogas1580
@kelseylogas1580 Жыл бұрын
Your Gowron impression is actually quite good and and quite funny. Well done!
@empatheticrambo4890
@empatheticrambo4890 Жыл бұрын
The Klingons in DS9 are really interesting because it digs a bit more into the history. Plus of COURSE the time travel to TOS is fun, if that counts
@coletteb.8889
@coletteb.8889 Жыл бұрын
O'Brien: "That's a Kingon?!?" Waitress: "OK, you've had too much to drink." Everyone looks at Worf Worf: "We do not speak of it." This is one of the things that my brain randomly brings up without any prompting! It definitely counts! I'm surprised that he didn't mention it when he mentioned Koloth because that makes it his second episode of DS9 he was in.
@CynthiaWarren
@CynthiaWarren Жыл бұрын
I LOVE your impressions of Gowron! You sound so much like him, it's eerie! It was huge shock when Worf was forced to kill him, but there was clearly no other choice. Gowron was allowing his jealousy of Martok to lead him into an unforgivable waste of the Empire's resources, both in personnel and ships. That Sisko practically ordered Worf to do it showed how much Sisko had changed, such that he gave an order to a Starfleet officer to take a direct hand in the Empire's internal politics.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
Is it _that_ weird that Ron Canada is from New York? The Niagara Falls are in New York state too, Ontario’s right there, they have close cultural and economic ties! That Klingon chef is lowkey my favourite side-side character on the show.
@jayc5942
@jayc5942 Жыл бұрын
Dude… Loved your Gowron impression during the ‘House of Quark’ segment!
@francoislacombe9071
@francoislacombe9071 Жыл бұрын
Gagh is not the only dish on the Klingon menu, as lavishly demonstrated by Commander Riker himself in the TNG episode A Matter of Honor.
@MyMagnificentOctopus
@MyMagnificentOctopus Жыл бұрын
Plus it apparently has various sauces in which the live worms are served. So it is as much cooking as involved in sashimi or steak tartare.
@MeNoOther
@MeNoOther Жыл бұрын
With Worf working with Martok, he would explain why he became a governor of a small moon from the last episode of TNG. Though he can still die in the Klingon council hall, that leads to Alexander going back in time.
@Andrew-pr9xv
@Andrew-pr9xv Жыл бұрын
Also, I assume this was before the news that there will in fact be a Klingon in season two.
@jpboursaw4469
@jpboursaw4469 Жыл бұрын
Ya know, there used to be a show on cable (I don’t know if it’s still going), called Sex Sent Me To The E.R. DS9 definitely had the Klingon edition locked down!
@jonnyolson1221
@jonnyolson1221 Жыл бұрын
The Gowron impression is spot on
@MadScorpable
@MadScorpable Жыл бұрын
I always thought the engineers in "starship down" were civilian employees and the lesson was more about the differences of dealing with people that were trained at SF academy and the people that just live and work on DS9. I always thought along the same lines that Odo's security forces were probably also bajoran citizens working a regular 9 to 5.
@MrThehoyce
@MrThehoyce Жыл бұрын
I think they were non-coms (like O'Brien). Which, still, means they should have just followed Worf's barking orders and STFU, but the main lesson Worf learned from O'B was a good one for his command style.
@MyMagnificentOctopus
@MyMagnificentOctopus Жыл бұрын
I can forgive Kang, Kor and Koloth all knowing one another, as from TOS it seems they all were fairly prominent commanders along the same part of the frontier with the Federation at generally the same time. Given that, it is not unreasonable to assume they knew each other. A bit more implausible they are also friends, but my head cannon is that they met commiserating over losing to Kirk and bonded.
@glamourweaver
@glamourweaver 2 ай бұрын
Only Koloth really lost to Kirk (and at a plot that TNG DS9 era Klingons would disdain as conniving Romulan political manipulation unworthy of a warrior at that). Kor and Kirk jointly lost to the Organians, and Kang and Kirk jointly beat the energy being feeding off them. Unless of course you’re pointing to non-screen media. I think they all crossed paths with him more times in novels.
@RadSalacan
@RadSalacan Жыл бұрын
Channeled your inner Gilda Radner there with that ending "Nevermind". Great video.
@78Mathius
@78Mathius Жыл бұрын
I love Worf's part in leading his ancestors to glory by farming against time.
@kevinbaird6705
@kevinbaird6705 Жыл бұрын
Descendents?
@erf3176
@erf3176 Жыл бұрын
9:00 Always hated how they handled Kurn's departure. Erasing all his memories is no different than klling the guy. It is actually worse because he had at least conscented (scratch that... demanded) a suicide in accordance to his traditions. What they did to him was to insult his beliefs and then murder him. Picard would have totally let Worf kill his brother like he should have. Worf should have just taken Kurn with him to the Enterprise on one of those random visits he always ends up doing in the TNG movies and done the ritual. Then, if anyone on DS9 asks why Kurn did not come back from the Enterprise, tell them he's living in a farm.
@JRMcCarroll
@JRMcCarroll Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't have to go to the Enterprise. Just take a quick trip someplace outside Federation space.
@this.is.a.username
@this.is.a.username Жыл бұрын
it was stupid that they tried to do it on DS9, where consenting homicide is obviously illegal. They could've just taken a trip off to random moon around random planet and done it.
@KitKatHexe
@KitKatHexe Жыл бұрын
I love your Gowran impersonations
@matthewhearn9910
@matthewhearn9910 Жыл бұрын
Frankly amazing that the same day you complain about the lack of Klingons in SNW, a Season 2 trailer premieres where Spock drinks bloodwine with a bunch of them.
@firefly4f4
@firefly4f4 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe you left off an entire episode of Klingons from this list! Did you just not want to go through the tribble-ations of that one?
@firefly4f4
@firefly4f4 Жыл бұрын
Complete non sequitur: I got an advert for Matt Walsh and The Daily Wire at the end of the video. 🤮
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher Жыл бұрын
​@@firefly4f4 Is it possible that the ad was retribution from the algorithm for the pun? Damned AI can't identify a bridge or a good turn of phrase.
@firefly4f4
@firefly4f4 Жыл бұрын
​​@@eldorados_lost_searcher If so, why me when I'm just taking it from the name of the episode in question? Punishment for continuing to spread said pun? If so, I guess it's worth the tribble it caused me.
@this.is.a.username
@this.is.a.username Жыл бұрын
youtube has ads?
@nastropc
@nastropc Жыл бұрын
28:00 I love this almost throwaway reveal that the Klingon military is run by bougie trust-fund bros, explains so much!
@LanMandragon1720
@LanMandragon1720 Жыл бұрын
The majority of militaries throughout history have been run in a similar manner.
@glamourweaver
@glamourweaver 2 ай бұрын
@@LanMandragon1720”Art of War” and its popularity among CEOs makes so much sense when you realize it’s written to be “an Incompetent Silver-Spoon Nepo-Baby’s Guide to not completely f-ing up a war they’ve been put in charge of”
@rmeddy
@rmeddy Жыл бұрын
Ron Canada as Ch'Pok is still a great classic character for me, he was so cheeky and slimy he felt like a Romulan in Klingon's skin, Solid direction by Burton. I'm still annoyed they killed off K'Ehleyr, I felt she could've come in for some good romance triangle stuff opposite Jadzia and I still didn't like how they did Alexander dirty in this show I always felt he could've been a regular or semi-regular to contrast Ben and Jake with him and Worf and some solid shenanigans with Jake and Nog.
@Matthew_Raymond
@Matthew_Raymond Жыл бұрын
It would actually be kind of interesting if a society had a ceremonial “calling off the wedding” as part of their marriage customs. Then you could have a scene where the one person who isn’t in the know looks on in horror, thinking the wedding is actually called off.
@threeofeight197
@threeofeight197 Жыл бұрын
I forgot about poor Kurn. And I thought Troi was unethical with Jack for running out of the room and sharing his medical data with the crew. Guess it could always be worse.
@ataraxia7439
@ataraxia7439 Жыл бұрын
They really need to get a good team of writers and just make a Klingon focused show. I don’t care if it’s even only a miniseries. You can have like one token human character too but they’re not the pov, they’re just kind of there early on the way Worf was at the beginning.
@Diego-zz1df
@Diego-zz1df Жыл бұрын
How about a series of an hour and a half movies focused on non-federation characters and stories?
@IfYouInsist
@IfYouInsist Жыл бұрын
Genuinely surprised this never happened during the late 90s into early 2k. Make up for a full cast for every episode was probably too expensive if I had to guess.
@this.is.a.username
@this.is.a.username Жыл бұрын
My favorite Martok moment is when Nog tells him to fuck off the promenade. always RIP Aron
@HolyBlowhole
@HolyBlowhole 11 ай бұрын
11:53 Kurn saves Worf’s life by killing the other Klingon. He had a knife hidden in his sleeve and Worf is upset that he hadn’t felt the guy intended to kill him and is worried he is losing his Klingon “spidey-sense.”
@colewilliams1563
@colewilliams1563 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a really good Gowron impression.
@sloanekuria3249
@sloanekuria3249 Жыл бұрын
The poster art for this video makes my brain happy. I recognize things I know! Thanks for the video
@TheMaddgodd81
@TheMaddgodd81 Жыл бұрын
Wow, Worf really is a terrible father; he tells "Rodek" that he has no family, apparently having forgotten about Alexander completely by this point...
@dracon2k
@dracon2k Жыл бұрын
Slight error. In the Season 4 episode Martok is not a changeling yet, as one of the scenes has him cutting his hand to drop blood to prove he isnt a changeling to Sisko and Kira. I suspect that at some point after this entire issue and Season 5 is when they replace him.
@MrThehoyce
@MrThehoyce Жыл бұрын
Considering they later established that Changelings had found a way around that test, I had presumed that any time we see 2 eyed Martok it's a changeling, including his first appearance.
@myrabeth77
@myrabeth77 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure when we meet Martok in the prison camp, he says he's been there for 2 years, establishing that it's the first time we met the real deal.
@frazerx01
@frazerx01 Жыл бұрын
17:45 - Wow, those enhanced pics are so uncanny/creepy at times. Please, don't stop using them, ever. Great video as always, Steve!
@michaelnuzzo5698
@michaelnuzzo5698 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the writers of Strange New Worlds may be avoiding Klingons because, depending on the canon you're following, they're either basically blackface-style TOS Klingons (thanks Enterprise and "Trials and Tribble-ations"), the controversial redesign of Discovery, or a potential continuity glitch. I imagine none of these options is particularly appetizing to SNW's writers. Also, yes Worf did have to kill Gowron. It was a Klingon battle of honor and there's no way Gowron would have yielded. You also didn't mention that Worf was under implicit orders to do so - "Do whatever it takes, Mister Worf. Those Klingon ships out there are the only thing between us and the Breen. Gowron is risking the safety of the entire Alpha Quadrant and he has to stop." While Sisko didn't tell Worf to kill Gowron, killing Gowron was well within his remit. It also made Worf one of the most significant Klingons in the Empire's recent history. EDIT: And just hours after I said that first paragraph, the season 2 trailer for SNW proves me wrong.
@mr.bulldops7692
@mr.bulldops7692 Жыл бұрын
Steve, I'll laugh at the expense of Klingons, but I draw the line at insulting the Klingon Chef. You know how hard it is to source quality gagh that far out in the quadrant? Have you tried the gagh they cultivate on Bajor? It tastes like iceberg lettuce soaked in Mountain Dew. Klingon Chef puts his life on the line every time he puts an order in to his suppliers to serve up an authentic gagh just like mom used to make back on Kronos.
@kalitor
@kalitor 9 ай бұрын
The saddest part about the Kurn storyline is that he never gets to become a member of the House of Martok when Worf does. If only Kurn could have had more than a couple months patience.
@KoRntech
@KoRntech Жыл бұрын
Oh this was such a fun tearful trip down memory lane of the 90s.
@peterporcarojr8004
@peterporcarojr8004 Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve! Looks like someone heard ya! Just saw the SNW Season 2 teaser, and the Klingons are back! And look - they're the TMP/TNG version of the character design! I'm sure this will piss-off the "but actually..." crowd. LLAP!
@BennysBenz
@BennysBenz Жыл бұрын
Damn man you're really going deep on this. Steve's deep cuts on the B side of his greatest hits album.
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Жыл бұрын
DS9 had a Klingon restaurant from the first season which I kinda loved.
@Hrafnskald
@Hrafnskald Жыл бұрын
Great rundown. Loved Martok, even enjoyed the Kern gets a new family storyarc :)
@therandomninja5
@therandomninja5 Жыл бұрын
As always, your Gowron impression is spot on!
@terranceroff8113
@terranceroff8113 Жыл бұрын
Lets also note that Michel Dorn has been in more trek than any other trek actor.. whoda thunk!
@FestivalMercury
@FestivalMercury Жыл бұрын
Worf was a far better character in DS9 than he ever was on TNG.
@christopherddrew7555
@christopherddrew7555 Жыл бұрын
Ah perfect I’ve put in about 50 minutes of work, time for a *checks timestamp* 50 minute break
@andrewbesso4257
@andrewbesso4257 Жыл бұрын
I wish they could have saved Kurn. Maybe they could have commissioned him as a lieutenant commander, and assigned him to be weapons officer on a ship in Starfleet.
@glamourweaver
@glamourweaver 2 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget one of Kor’s best DS9 moments, where the writers (presumably accidentally?) had him perfectly model how to treat and care about trans friends. “Curzon, my beloved old friend!” “It’s Jadzia now” “Jadzia, my beloved old friend!”
@dongilleo9743
@dongilleo9743 Жыл бұрын
You go to a Klingon restaurant for the authentic ambience, as much as you go for the food.
@ZoeMalDoran
@ZoeMalDoran Жыл бұрын
Steve, did you ever read the 2-book series 'The Left Hand of Destiny' ? It's set just after the DS9 finale, follows Worf & Martok back to Qo'nos, and has a load of fun "King Arthur with Klingons" stuff going on.
@waynefiddler3609
@waynefiddler3609 Жыл бұрын
Thats a damn good Chancellor Crazy eyes impression. Well played sir, Well played indeed
@bryanburgess3950
@bryanburgess3950 Жыл бұрын
10:53 I don't normally get uncanny valley'd, but AI-ified Odo is seriously creeping me out
@rogerpaparazzo4725
@rogerpaparazzo4725 Жыл бұрын
Since Michael Dorn plays Worf grandfather in star trek 6, I wonder if he could play him again in star trek strange new worlds. perhaps as the great grandfather
@Myriadys
@Myriadys Жыл бұрын
As a mainenance worker, the part about not just expecting the engineers to do what they're told, you have to coddle them, is very on point for real life maintenance workers, myself included
@ArtByStranger
@ArtByStranger Жыл бұрын
Yesss always here for good Klingon content - thanks love youu!
@purplejack2020
@purplejack2020 Жыл бұрын
Ok but can you imagine, you find some holy relic like the Holy Grail or Mjolnir or something and it turns out that it drives people crazy and start to turn on each other so you're like "nope" and you just chuck it into the ocean
@pentalarclikesit822
@pentalarclikesit822 Жыл бұрын
The Klingons *are* basically a giant Shakespeare reference . . . they constantly go around like they're in a Shakespearian tragedy or history.
@sgommerable
@sgommerable Жыл бұрын
Great vid, I like the subtler bits more than your usual
@robertpennington1019
@robertpennington1019 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea that Help! was originally a Klingon work?.. that’s amazing!
@IdoMuffin
@IdoMuffin 7 ай бұрын
Missed a trick on the Kurn bit. "Yes but in my defence he really wanted me to" should have been "Yes but in my defence he was really asking for it."
@gayahithwen
@gayahithwen Жыл бұрын
Re: the Klingon Chef - I always assumed that gagh comes in some kind of sauce or broth. Like, the main thing is the worms, and probably Klingons will eat them unseasoned, especially when they're fresh. But, in a restaurant (especially a kind of fast food-y place at a space station that serves a lot of different species)... maybe you'd expect some extra stuff then.
@paulm.8660
@paulm.8660 Жыл бұрын
Quark isn't really my type, but let's not pretend we can't see the appeal. Armin Shimerman, while not conventionally beautiful, is a good-looking guy with a very expressive face and a charming smile even when wearing ferengi mouth prosthetics. Quark, for his part, is quick-witted and devious in all the best ways, with a great sense of humor and a contagious enthusiasm for entertainment and fun. Perhaps most importantly, Quark understands the psychology of pleasure, you can be assured he'll be looking for ways to keep it fresh and interesting. Sure, he's going to leave a copy of Oo-Mox for Fun and Profit lying out for her to find, but he also understands the importance of keeping his customers satisfied, and is always looking for new and exciting things to try
@BriGuy77711
@BriGuy77711 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a little more ambiguous than it appears in the last act of Sons of Mog'h with Kurn having no say about getting his mind erased. Yes, Kurn stated earlier that he would do whatever Worf told him to do, but Bashir was not party to that exchange. Even if he was, regardless of Klingon law and tradition, Federation law would seem to indicate that Bashir would need Kurn's direct consent to perform surgery on him. The only exception would be a life-threatening situation, but that clearly would not appear to be the case to Bashir, a Federation doctor. Unless their was some (Federation, not Klingon) legal stuff behind the scenes that gave Worf unlimited power over Kurn's body and mind, I just don't buy that Bashir would do this on Worf's instruction alone. I think it more plausible that there is an implied off-screen scene where they woke Kurn up, got him sober, and Worf explained the plan and Kurn consented. Just my opinion, though.
@biohazrd
@biohazrd Жыл бұрын
Just a few hours later and it looks like you got your wish re: Klingon in SNW
@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout
@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout Жыл бұрын
Seems like Kurn could've regained his honor by trying to kill Worf, the "traitorous" member of their House, but whatever.
@kokopellispritjourney
@kokopellispritjourney Жыл бұрын
The Singing Klingon Chef. Show some respect, he has a KZbin channel now.
@AndrewJamesGordon
@AndrewJamesGordon Жыл бұрын
Just saw the teaser for Strange New Worlds Season 2. Your Klingon prayers have seemingly been answered. Whether Pike gets his own personal Klingon nemesis remains to be seen.
@KevinTernes
@KevinTernes Жыл бұрын
I like listening to you talk about Star Trek.
@zayviermoodie9173
@zayviermoodie9173 7 ай бұрын
my favorite line in any star trek. Martok said to Worf (I wouldn't give that man the gnawed bones from my last meal)
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