Stevie Ray - Why Ahmed Johnson Never Came Back to WWE

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Title: Stand Up for Greatness w/ Stevie Ray
When: July 25, 2017
Featuring: Stevie Ray, Matt Topolski
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This is from Stevie Ray's brand new podcast from Title Match Wrestling Network! Joined by co-host Matt Topolski, Stevie Ray
discusses Ahmed Johnson (aka Tony Norris, Big T in WCW) and what happened during his tenure in WWF (WWE at the time). Ahmed Johnson was in line for a massive push. He was already working with guys like Steve Austin, Golddust, etc and it seemed like Vince McMahon was a strong backer of his. Here, Stevie Ray tells us the exact incident that made Ahmed Johnson quit WWE and in the process, threaten Vince McMahon & Jim Ross.
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[@Mengele4444]

I AM THE LORD OF THE JUNGLE

[@JoseLopez-un7nb]

Title Mach Wrestling

[@isaiahwinbrone]

He left the wwe in 1998

[@perrymason798]

did any rappers you have a funny story

[@isaiahwinbrone]

@@perrymason798 I ❤ pro wrestling 4real

[@simgarfu]

The amount of respect I have for Steavie Ray has quadrupled over the years the more I listen to him speak.

[@Deeky76]

Stevie and his brother Booker are two of the most straight up guys in the business, Ultimate respect for both bro's

[@Nostalgicguy2242]

Why Stevie never returned to WWE to team or even feud with Booker?.. especially during his "King Booker" phase..

[@christianedwards2482]

Stevie Ray is a solid, old school cat. Just keeps it real.

[@vinnymac7565]

One thing I've learned since getting the wwe network, is that Ahmed Johnson was so over with the fans, he could of easily been champ.

[@SUMPhiB08]

Vinny Mac After the Stone Cold podcast with Mark Henry, that almost happened. He was scheduled to beat the Undertaker for the title but he felt that he wasn’t ready...that could’ve easily put you in the hall of fame.

[@joeyzapata6786]

@@SUMPhiB08 if only Ahmed had learned how to actually work, he could have been all time great.

[@SUMPhiB08]

@@joeyzapata6786 right!!

[@bdix42]

Dude made Goldberg look like Eddie Guerrero when it comes to injuring guys

[@Retrorevelations]

@@SUMPhiB08 I don't know about all that. But thank god that never happened. First off, Taker deserved to hold the belt til Summerslam. Secondly, AJ never respected the business or the fans, so he didn't deserve to ever be World Champ, let alone beat The UNDERTAKER.

[@healthunit53535]

Wow I should have been watching these a long time ago. Stevie sounds like a wise guy.

[@slavaukraini1991]

"Ahmed said that fans have seen..." - well shit, I'm convinced...

[@Krillep]

And that he always sent a racist vibe around Stone Cold. And that Debra stated he didn't want her to watch black people on TV.

[@deepstate3358]

west Coast most wrestlers and wrestling fans are racist. Back in the 90's there was a racist vibe Everytime I would go to the arena to see them live.

[@thechosen481]

west Coast I've been watching wrestling since the mid-70s, particularly Mid-South. Back around that time and during WCW era, there were many issues on racism. I remember wrestlers like Hacksaw Butch Reed and Ron Simmons filed a law suit because the professional wrestling organizations never had nor promoted African-American World champions.

[@healthunit53535]

Laverle Dugger oh I noticed. Its a shame. There was the Rock... But hes not African. I cant remember and African American being champ. Now the got Jinder Mahal as champ. Only reason they made a brown guy champ is cuz they want in the Indian market. But notice he comes out being racist to Nakamura. Thats not Jinder, thats Vince saying all that. He was probably thrilled that he got someone thats not white to be racist. Now brown guys seem racist towards Japanese guys when really its Vince thats the racist one. Nothing gets said on tv without his approval.

[@roycuffee8387]

Love Stevie man he just has a way of explaining things

[@glammetalrenegade408]

Stevie Ray is a class act.

[@hubertgreen]

Stevie Ray could be a good Life coach.

[@darylifillifill1677]

Two of my favorite fighters Armed Johnson and Stevie Ray

[@4evertony1]

Ahmed Johnson was my dude back in the day.

[@themadlad8540]

O did you know him?

[@joeyzapata6786]

Same here. Of course, I didn't know then what I know now. Sucks to hear that Ahmed was hard to work with. He had so much potential. He could have been the Batista of the 90s.

[@tibora13]

Ahmed Johnson & Chris Benoit Belong in the Wrestling Hall of fame in Ohio NOT the WWE Hall of fucking garbage wrestling and FAT bitches.

[@GeorgeSquare]

Stevie Ray talking a lot of sense there. Comes across a good, intelligent man.

[@deathtolinduism69]

I could listen to stevie speak all day, man's full of great insight and info. Long live stevie. 💯🔥

[@ctcoley19]

Great seeing Stevie after all these years going back to them WCW tapings at center stage in Atlanta

[@eddiegee6869]

Stevey Ray and Booker T were the baddest tag team champions ever.. Harlem Heat!!!!

[@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer]

Doom were better, Road Warriors were better, Rockers were better, Power and Glory were better, American Males were better.

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

Humperdoo American Males? Please get your head out your ass lol

[@jonstefanik9400]

Ebony Experience. Kole and Kane

[@six-stringphantom1402]

We coming for YOU NiGGa!

[@fleamarketmixtape3793]

@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer all these teams were good, but dam.... really!?!?!?!? Harlem heat cant be included?

[@wossboss4941]

Stevie sounds like a real cool down to earth person

[@krisb4872]

if it wasn't for Stevie ray, I'd have no idea what a slapjack is. thanks to him, that's my preferd weapon of choice.

[@willcook8309]

kris B he taught me about fruit booties

[@allensmithee6442]

Well... sucka got to know..and we can all be thankful to Stevie for letting us know:)

[@buckleymcwilliams]

Black jack

[@05momoh]

Stevie love your pod . “Bite that hand that feeds you”. Understandable. I love your courageous Spirit and awesome purity. Home grown H-town😍

[@brettpritchard265]

Wow, Stevie hasn't aged like at all.

[@djmonstrosity6971]

He's 59 years old. Couldn't believe it.

[@jameelisaac7628]

black don't crack lol

[@oneyedthing]

He looks like a buff morgan freeman

[@brudderstyles3479]

He's always looked like he was 45, the in shape uncle at the bbq who's done time

[@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot]

Looks great for his age, has clearly taken care of himself. Booker looks good but looks a fuck load older in the face for some reason, saying that he’s still in great shape and an example of what you can look like getting older (and yeah in know he was on the shit so that has an advantage)

[@CHANEL_D_QUEEN]

Awesome Commentary 💪🏽💪🏽

[@MikeyMcCrashCap]

I respect the decision Ahmed made.

[@eddubya2496]

Ahmed Johnson did the right thing. Don’t care if he shares my name.

[@WrestleRockPodcast]

This is our exclusive interview with Ahmed Johnson. Enjoy !! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5fbeIB6aa9mobc

[@shannonharrel1388]

Stevie's the best, man. Booker is great too. Great storytellers.

[@joncolunga673]

I completely agree with Ahmed Johnson's choice to take the road he took. Never sell out your own integrity

[@hydradominatus3641]

He got his ass beat by Ron Simmons and never came back. How's that for integrity?

[@luckylefty914]

@@hydradominatus3641 have they ever said to wanna tar and feather ron simmons? Ok so stfu

[@msmith42001]

I once saw a sign at a Nitro live in Baltimore that read "Stevie Ray sold me crack" What a time to be alive. Circa 97-98.

[@89RealThe]

Awesome, lol.

[@hatednyc]

Been watching these Stevie Ray Clips all day and I gotta say I honestly wish I could by the man a beer. I think we would have a fucking ball.

[@AOIbis]

I was a huge AJ fan, loved watching him

[@freezhollywood]

stevie ray and his brother are like the only sane ppl to make it out the business..its the weirdest industry ever..grown men shitting in bags ppl mad over fake fights and losing fake fights or losing fake belts..as long as ur getting big money why tf do u care if u lose a fake fight smh

[@jasonchandler2463]

You obviously don't understand wrestling,if you lose the wrong way or to the wrong guy it can ruin your credibility and respect with the fans to maintain your credibility there is an art to losing that you have to learn or you won't be in wrestling long you won't be able to draw money then they will let you go.

[@anthonyanderson9303]

@@jasonchandler2463 That's true to an extent but certain guys take that shit way too seriously i.e. Bret Hart. At the end of the day the shit still is scripted and you can lose matches and still be over and be able to draw money.

[@jamjterryjr]

He should be a wwe announcer

[@crazyjim9380]

You could tell something was up. He went from being one of the top stars to getting buried by Jeff Jarrett and then squashed by Kane.

[@EssexAggiegrad2011]

Ahmed was sloppy and dangerous

[@417Graphix]

As most power wrestlers were, he came from Japan like Vader who also was notoriously stiff

[@oveidasinclair982]

Vince McMahon is a complete dick, but that being said black wrestlers never were vary popular in professional wrestling. The target audience is white, they are the ones who purchase the arena tickets, they are the ones who walk away from the TV sets when the black wrestlers come on. Black wrestlers are only in wrestling today because of political correctness and ONLY that reason.

[@crazyjim9380]

That's some serious ignorance. There are millions of black wrestling fans and The Rock was one of the biggest stars in wrestling. It has nothing to do with political correctness. Take that BS elsewhere.

[@oveidasinclair982]

First off the Rock is maybe 20% tops black, second I didn't say there was now black wrestling fans, I'm saying like every other sporting event that Blacks do not by tickets and that is where wrestlers make their money, people in the seats at arenas. Now wrestling today is totally different from the 60's-90's, wrestling today is nothing but a clown show put on by one company that monopolized and wrecked the industry.

[@jesseduke203]

Ahmed Johnson was one of my favorites back in the day, and was one of the most popular wrestlers in the mid 90s and it was B.S. That they never put the belt on him.

[@leonfizer1974]

I think he got the IC belt at one time

[@mikehunt8247]

He had the ic title which back then actually meant something

[@johnbates6898]

Check out jim ross aj could have been heavy weight champ he said he was not ready for it dude do some research

[@bigtrex76]

Stevie Ray is a very well spoken individual. Very cool guy!!!

[@billyrouse4813]

Ahmed Johnson also had a hard time not hurting people with certain moves.

[@mjoe1111211]

Man when he picked up and slammed Yokozuna, I was like holy shit!. True beast!

[@PHill1960]

really enjoying Stevie Ray !!!!!

[@PlayboyMigz]

makes total sense stevie ray kickin game!!

[@vh9network]

Am I the only one looking at these podcast seeing Stevie Ray looks fit enough to be in a WWE ring right now wrestling for the WHC?

[@davidjamesthomson3907]

Compared to Booker. Stevie sounds so down to earth and normal

[@dualshock3462]

And Booker is not? Both guys sound pretty much down to earth and normal to me

[@TheShadowBrigade]

Roger Sterling He did for awhile in WCW if I remember correctly.

[@ajk]

Yeah he was near the end. Some have said it was a race thing to make WCW look good in light of lawsuits a the time (similar thinking to why Booker T was given world title around same time too), but nonetheless. He definitely seems smart though for sure. :)

[@weball6544]

David james Thomson. Can you dig it? SUUUUUUUUCKA

[@lonewolf261000]

+stashem89 why because he uses articulate words and ends his sentences without saying NIGGA! You go twerk on a bee hive and shut up

[@ironman2326]

I'm only used to him yelling in promos. When he talks normal he has a good voice and speaks well.

[@calestelken4645]

Damn, Stevie Ray hasn't aged a bit since the last days of Dubya C Dubya! Seems like he's pretty well got things together.

[@AsadLife27]

He was amazing

[@StoneColdGem]

Stevie Ray earned my respect

[@alcarney1122]

I wouldn't have did that tar and feather BS either fire me that is so disrespectful

[@coreyhardwick4660]

It's a work, moron.

[@davidmadison9369]

Stevie Ray is Uncle Ruckus!

[@rizeorfall]

I burned my britches once

[@pattaylor632]

ZAX Wrestling Action Review in this Bishness

[@HornyStewie_69]

I also made FUND of someone too

[@TheZom1965]

Stevie Ray is a MAN.

[@chattingesque372]

its funny that stevie ray is so gentlemanlike well spoken here but on tv in wcw(before hebecame a commentator) he was such a tough looking ol bastard who never read a book in his life. i find the same thing with Rick Steiner.

[@mamatheregoesthatman3361]

Chattingesque stfu

[@99SilverSrfr]

Sid Vicious and Arn Anderson are two other gents in that mold, I believe.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

Kayfabe works so well when you believed all the stuff they told you in all those wrestling programmes and promos thats why! Rick Steiner has a degree from the University Michigan i do believe.

[@AJ-fz8xm]

He burnt his bridges bcuz he had principles as a man & kept it REAL

[@markjag545]

Stevie ray seems like a smart guy

[@huskychipmunk]

But everyone swears the wwe isn't racist

[@leonperkins401]

Husky Chipmunk that company always been racist

[@devinsuni]

Thats why vince had the rock as the face of his company for years right??

[@addisonyoungg8052]

1:33 everything he says from this point on man fuck it resonates so deeply it’s scary.

[@Toyotas_n__Tools]

I have a mind of steel and character to back it up! - stevie ray damn them some words!

[@dxy2001]

Ahmed Johsnon brings back good wrestling memories. Good Times. Please upgrade the show's headphones, it's giving bad on air feedback

[@thoward6162]

look'n good Stevie! 💪

[@dolla316]

Tarred and feathered though??? Wow fuck that company

[@uria2001]

Stevie Ray and I have one thing in common. We help keep adding to Russell Athletic profits. He wears a Russell shirt almost every interview. Thats all I wear too. I'm too cheap to buy Under Armour.

[@wontshutup1144]

Uria85 bruh.. It does the same exact thing. Ua is overpriced just like most things involved with athletics

[@hotnsaxy2010]

Uria85 if I don't get Russell I get And1

[@hotnsaxy2010]

Uria85 and Russell has gotten smart. You can now get Russell gear at Walmart for an affordable price

[@nicke1903]

Under Armour is kinda like a Yeti Cooler,for the people that has to know that you know they have more money than sense.

[@herculescolon3915]

i hear you,you need that godly mantle to overcome what comes at you.

[@terencethomas2632]

Stevie ray is like that cool Uncle at the family BBQ , but straight forward and ain't with the bullshit

[@James-xx4kb]

I understand where Stevie Ray is coming from and I respect him and always have but a tarring and feathering is humanly degrading, especially for a dark skinned black man with pride. Somethings in life are bigger than the fame and fortune.

[@wyattfrizzell6672]

tarring and feathering never had racial connotations thats from the american revolution you idiot

[@James-xx4kb]

Wyatt Frizzell Bitch shut your fucking mouth up! The majority of black men in America would find it highly offensive and that's the point.

[@unclecreed2986]

Didn't they tar and feather moonshiners?

[@James-xx4kb]

R D I am not wrong about a fuckin thing. All I said was that tarring and feathering is humanly degrading, which it is, how can that even be up for debate here? And as much hardships that African Americans have had to endure, I consider that to be a racist setup by Vince McMahon to get back at Ahmed Johnson. I'll be a dick about it as long as idiots want to start problems with me on my own opinion.

[@inmamedia4861]

James8107 for any black man not just dark skinned

[@shaolinwisdom]

I think Stevie Ray and Booker T are probably the most level headed fellas in wrestling. I wish Stevie Ray had a little bit of a run in WWE. His singles run in WCW just seemed like management or whoever weren't trying very hard to give him a place to shine or they didn't know how to use him after they split Harlem Heat. Sure WWE also has made some terrible choices for tag teams that were split into singles guys too. But Vince likes big dudes, Stevie was the muscle in Harlem Heat, I would thing he's gonna give him something good to do in that situation. I would have liked to see Stevie vs Angle. Or maybe teamed up with Undertaker in his Badass era as another Biker, they're both from Texas and big dudes would have been cool - that's all just my opinion obviously, I just liked Stevie Ray. I like how cool and collected he in these interviews, just seems like a real chill cat to talk to.

[@blueskyz8097]

Stevie Ray best heel Tag Gum Chewn WRESTLER... To this day -Wilder

[@The_Natural_Man]

Who would have ever thought Stevie fuckin Ray of all people would be so reasonable and well spoken?!

[@davidmadison9369]

I’m glad Ahmed didn’t let Vince disrespect him and his ancestors like that. Black people were tarred and feather when being lynched. Once again the WWE is a best culturally insensitive and more likely flat out racist. Shame on Stevie Ray for blaming Ahmed for having personal and cultural dignity.

[@Venom-ez6ip]

Stevie and Booker are both wise thinkers.

[@jeremy19175]

Stevie ray did not mentioned also that Ahmed Johnsons was injury prone

[@jeremy19175]

@@sgfulton8385 right I mean they even made him intercontinental champion and he could not stay healthy long enough to be that

[@jeredwatkins8900]

I've known Stevie Ray since his days in Global... And he's always been cool as a cucumber in a fridge. Back when I was in the biz, Stevie Ray and I could've had a program that would really put asses in seats, because he was as solid a worker as you could ask for. That, and I played a haughty, arrogant Southern gentry who incessantly cheated.

[@charlessummers841]

Wrestling business is crazy because there is sooo many men that talk about each other.

[@FedorMachida]

Stevie Ray is awesome. A true legend of wrestling.

[@rashawnarchie7554]

I just realized how much Stevie Ray and Michael Jah White look alike and sound like

[@jasonfrost6448]

Being embarrassed on TV was the WWE's way in the attitude era of punishing people who's ego's got out of hand. It's why Triple H spent an entire year having hog slop thrown on him after the curtain call. Concentrating on the tar and feathering means ignoring all the stuff he was (not even allegedly because he's admitted and is proud of) stuff he was doing backstage at the time. Just listen to an interview with Ahmed Johnson today. Everything is how everyone was against him and how he wanted to fight everyone because everyone was racist. Meanwhile nearly everyone he worked with that he tried to screw over are in the Hall of Fame (Harlem Heat, Ron Simmons, Godfather etc) and where is he?

[@kwasiaking185]

Stevie J, said a lot without saying nothing, pertinent.

[@Logic783]

"We coming for you nigga." Lolol.

[@RR-nl2ep]

It is two sides to every story. AJ was just a real dude and told it like it was. If he disagreed with something or disliked something he said something about it. Most black people like Stevie would not say nothing at all and just take it. How could you live your life like that?

[@sliv_dawg]

Stevie Ray you seem cool as fuck!

[@RetroHabit82]

I heard the reason why Ahmed left WWE is because Ron Simmons beat his ass so bad he left.

[@TEDDYZ275]

looks like you heard wrong

[@seanodion7989]

Even if Stevie Ray started with, “Let me get right to the point… “ it would still take him 45 minutes to explain-minimum.

[@Bull1908]

I wonder if Stevie Ray was ever approached for any reason to come to WWE whether it be a Harlem Heat Reunion or as a broadcaster.

[@JOEPROMR.INTENSITY]

Kevin Bull

[@acerbicinspirations5978]

@Rondough Howell Fuckin hated crime time. Felt like I was watching "don't be a menace to wwe's ratings while workin yo gimmick in da ring". I'd take the black panther-esqe N.O.D. over that over the top wayan's inspired gimmick shit any day. Flipping the script and making them a couple of black hillbillies probably would've worked much better.

[@Bull1908]

@Rondough Howell Guess Stevie Ray was forgiven because they didn't have to invite him to induct Booker T to the Hall of Fame!

[@ensabahnur7657]

Stevie if you're not absolutely sure what happened, why even bother talking about it or simply say--"Here's my opinion!"-

[@83aber1]

Stevie is the man!

[@michaelginger88]

Stevie looks like Morgan freeman here

[@InvestBetter.]

Tarred and Feathered? Translation: Might be a receipt for threatening the boss. Might be a move to force you out.

[@JosephMiller-hu7bq]

I never understood why Stevie Ray didnt get to be a big star , because i thought out of the 2 that is Booker & Stevie that Stevie would become a bigger star , he was bigger and i thought Vince would see $ and i thought they couldve brought him in with the Godfather and make him with his ladies they couldve been tag champs and their both huge guys who can work but i was wrong Booker got huge and deserved it , he was a great talent

[@ssnadera6498]

Dude was supposed to be part of the next class of superstars in line to become champ along with hhh and mankind after shawn,sycho sid,austin, rock, but got lost somewhere in 1997, i think the race angle killed his momemtum plus his constant injuries

[@acerbicinspirations5978]

His own and those he caused to others. He was sloppy.

[@urbanflavorz]

Stevie Ray says he has a "mind of steel". Wasn't he the one that said he was about to grab his gun and kill a wrester after a fight. Now he claims its everybody else in wrestling. He the main culprit.

[@SBandy]

He owned up to his weakness. Something many others won't do.

[@urbanflavorz]

@@SBandy yeah but he still did it after claimin he has a mind of steel.

[@thabuloodles9209]

He look like he could still wrestle And Win

[@diontaedaughtry974]

If Ahmed waited a couple more months then he could've legally kicked Vince's ass like everybody else.

[@NASTY_NARCISSIST_KNOWLEDGE]

CONGRATULATIONS on the hall #HARLEMHEAT🍾

[@TPRES_74]

McMahon was pissed Ross couldn't get Ahmed to accept his Rainbow party invitation's 😂😂.

[@darrio6625]

Damn he’s smart

[@BigBadWolf_357]

Tarred and feathered...really Vince

[@417Graphix]

Thats that bullshit right there, having a big ass monster like Ahmed look like a fucking clown. I wouldnt have put up with that shit either

[@inmamedia4861]

T-417 it's what they did to black people during slavery the kkk are known to do this too

[@mamatheregoesthatman3361]

Inma media vince a racist

[@DAKINS896]

Yea and they did ol Ahmed a lot of good.

[@bigcdadon30]

Yet blk ppl still support and want to be involved with the wwf

[@TheRagev3]

Triple H (Paul) would most likely mend those fences if they wanted him into the HoF

[@RobwLPOC]

Ron Simmons The Rock D'Lo Brown all say the same thing that Ahmed Johnson just started believing his own hype was hurting everybody nobody wanted to work with him. If you check out the rock on off the record with Michael Landsberg back in the day, you can take him see him take a big sigh trying to figure out how to answer what he thought about Ahmed Johnson without completely burying the guy.

[@briandooley1968]

King and Armour King was my version of the Harlem Heat

[@grey_em2972]

Stevie ray has become the lavar ball of wrestling podcasting

[@YoungSpartanAtletik]

i knew this guy look familiar the minute i saw him at the gym.

[@Uptowndown819]

Yeah an Afro American man getting tarred and feathered... Vince was showing him..."boy I have power over you" Mr Norris wasn't going for it.

[@Scorch1028]

Ahmed Johnson pissed off the wrong people in the WWE. Once he was released from the company, that was essentially the end of his pro wrestling career.

[@KhronicYouth]

Yo where's the live show been lately

[@lovelyhurlin6494]

"Emotions getting to him" = Roid Rage!

[@classiccorporation5278]

I bet they wouldn’t of told Mark Henry or Ron Simmons to do no kinda shit like that!🤨

[@USSOBRIEN]

He shoot severed Ron Simmons liver with a kick. Ron came back & broke his ribs. His push ended. End of story.