Stewart Copeland - The Police "Roxanne" and "Walking On The Moon" | Recreating Iconic Drum Sounds

[@alecwilliams8425]

I feel like Copeland changed the soundscape for drumming, he was one of the first drummers to really push the envelope and show other drummers at the time that you don't have to drum for the genre! This man was playing reggae, Latin and even some funk I believe? and playing these styles in a rock band. The dude was truly a revolutionary.

[@MrBluoct]

And for that time and place

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Couldn’t agree more Alec! Thanks for sharing your feedback!

[@peterhopqk]

Well said

[@StefBelgium]

Fully agree too without mentioning the non conventional way of placing the back beat and kick drums within the groove.

[@DrummerCoolKid]

The hi hat work for walking on the moon hits different than any other song. It really goes to show that less is more and Copeland is a master of his craft

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@LessOfMyselfToKill_187]

Besides the professor my dad was always drilling in my head "Listen to Copeland's Hi-Hat work" and that helped me big time as I got older. Coming from 4 generations of drummers I came out the womb playing Rush and The Police. Then my uncle got me into the heavier stuff like Death, Cryptopsy, Cynic, Meshuggah and that blew my 12 yr old mind so by 14 I was touring with bands with people almost twice my age and got to play tons of shows meet my play w some of my heroes and by the time I hit 18 I got to go to school for music and still now at 35 years old am making my own music and having people play the music I made! If it wasn't for drummers like Copeland I would probably wouldn't be where I am today!

[@martinooo29]

Apart from the perfect sound in each episode you have to appreciate your playing. You fit in every genere and style. Well done to you my friend. It is not easy to catch such a wide spectrum of different players from funky drummer to Stewart Copeland. Love the channel and thank you for your hard work!! Regards from Poland.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks so much!

[@jeffreydonovanmusic]

Anyone who can play odd timing and still be popular is an amazing drummer.

[@JonHop1]

Joe Morello is my fav! Iconic.. And he was legally blind on top of it.. Probably gave him the ear he had. His left hand was tops in all of Jazz.

[@thetruthexperiment]

If you can’t play odd time you’re not really a drummer.

[@user-or1ye3iz6d]

I am very impressed with your reinactment of Copeland's drumming, especially walking on the moon!!! I loved watching this. ❤

[@neekondrums]

I think this is great for reproducing the sound of their early albums. If you really want to reproduce what I think of as "the Copeland sound", you need to look at live stuff, especially from the later years. If you listen to live tracks from the the Synchronicity tour, you hear that cranked sound on the snare. I've read in interviews he would white-knuckle tighten the batter side of his snare to get that really loud crack, then the engineer would use EQ for the low end to give it body. The approach you took is pretty much the opposite of what I would've done because I would try to reproduce the sound of his drums. You reproduced his recorded sound on those 2 albums, and you were pretty accurate. Knowing what his live drums sound like, your methodology made me twitch, put the proof is in the pudding, and your end result speaks for itself. Great job!

[@aaronhiller]

Yes!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

👍🏻

[@66meikou]

Jeff Zeitz(sp) was his roadie and he said he had used to crank his snare head up until it would almost break.

[@IAmInfinitus208]

​@@66meikou Or if the Remo logo was to the point of being overstretched! It was *that* tight back then! Nowadays, it's still high tuning on the snare but not much as how he used to do it.

[@olahakansson5973]

Stewart Copeland is one of my all time favourite and inspirational drummer out there...ever! You here instantly when it's Stewart playing. Copeland, Bonham, Jordan and Nate Smith is like top notch imo 👌🏻

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@66meikou]

You should add Phil Gould!

[@ryanmillay8782]

Absolutely MIND BOGGLING...!🤯

[@colinsmith2618]

we really need one for joey. his sound was recognizable. he really deserves one. fly high joey, we all miss you

[@timlovegrove1097]

If you can get hold of the stems for the early Police records or listen to the isolated drums on KZbin, it's amazing how distorted the drum sound is. Really crunchy and saturated, which adds a lot of the character to the records.

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

Excellent! Hit play so fast I nearly broke my screen!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

😉

[@jaywitherow1160]

Message in a bottle had interesting drum work. He definitely pushed the envelope for odd time signatures and expanding what drums could sound like.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@cherylholmes8677]

Hard to beat Copeland on the drums. He's a Super Star!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@TupDigital]

Absolutely. Dude flows in and out of that one like the ocean carrying that proverbial bottle. Sorry that just kinda came out as I typed

[@JuanPerez-wm8hs]

Copeland is a Paiste guy , I’m not sure is he uses Zildjian for the first records .

[@markusthedrummer8143]

RIDICULOUS and INSULTING to use zildijian CRAP when even mentioning Stewart. As a lifelong Paiste player I'm infuriated. Seriously. Who was in charge of this video? Do you know how much 1980's 13" Paiste 602 hi-hats go for these days? All because of Stewart. Sheesh!

[@rjjr1052]

@@markusthedrummer8143 Zildjian >>> Paiste

[@patrickr.452]

Agreed. His 13" Heavy, Formula 602 hi hats were a crucial part of his distinctive sound.

[@jimburleson1530]

@@patrickr.452 no question. Didnt use Zildjian hi hats since the first album.

[@powbobs]

@@markusthedrummer8143 You certainly do come across as RIDICULOUS and INSULTING. CONGRATULATIONS!!! Tastes differ.

[@65alphonso]

Till date, Copeland remains incomparable! Neither was there any drummer before him nor will there be any drummer like him and the alchemy that made The Police was inconceivable! I still listen to their music!

[@samibouhadida5314]

No doubt, as composer Sting was the brain of the band, but Stewart was probably the best and most talented musician in the power trio, even if Andy had more experience as a sessions player. I still listen to their albums, mainly because of Stewart's never equaled drums performances, which always allowed to be classified in the top ten of the best all times drummers list.

[@jamesdennett196]

Definitely one of the best drum channels on KZbin. All your videos are always of such high quality: the drums, the playing, the production. Big respect.

[@maksym1220]

SUPERCOOL viedo!!! This drums soo beautiful!

[@danhoyland142]

I really like how that big ride sounded!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

What is your favorite drum sound and what should we recreate next?

[@addisoncarpenter5675]

Mark guiliana?

[@Stanley-rq6vv]

John Bonham definitely

[@pRK747]

The Fleetwood Mac “Dreams” sound

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

You pick out skins from a range of singles, doubles, clear, coated, with gels, with tape.... 😳 Is there a summary video on all these skin properties somewhere? Thanks! 👍

[@matthewcox2135]

Tré Cool’s Dookie kit perhaps??

[@ickysticky3672]

There’s a drum shop across the pond that does videos like this, they should really consider going at content like this with the approach that you do. You knock videos like this out of the park.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks so much Nick for your feedback!

[@AmpasaurusWrecks]

Can you imagine if the drum kits were miked this well back in the 60s?

[@dca8821]

So weird, as a lifelong Copeland fan i just i got into a new round of permanently listening to the Police these past few days and also recently discovered your channel and TADAA yesterday you relased this video! Well done capturing his early recording sound . It is certainly not the sound he will be remembered by but you nailed it. To really catch his sound one should check out the Police live in Chile concert, live at Gateshead, Synchonicity tour concert or one of the last Police shows in New Jersey 1986. They are all on KZbin! Not many people are aware there is a Police live double album which features a 1979 and a 1983 concert. One of the most incredible drum tracks ever on those two recordings! Stewart had it all: drive, flashyness, power, finesse combined in a generation defining style. On top he is a very cool and well witted guy!

[@fightersweep]

I think to say this is not the sound Stewart will be remembered by is entirely subjective. I got the first two albums when they first came out, and it was Stewart's sound on those two albums that hooked me into his playing style. Personally, it's the early stuff that defines his sound for me, and Outlandos and Regatta remain my favourite Police albums.

[@dca8821]

@@fightersweep well it is a lot of peoples opinion, but you are right it is subjective subject.

[@adm95m3]

I gotta be honest. That drum sound is dead on 😲

[@gerdgrauer7816]

Your performance and know-how is great!!!!!!!!! Just a tip: Rimclick or Crossstick ist played with tip to the left side (if you play it with your left hand) by Stewart Copeland, and most drummers I know. The sound is much more sophisticated, open and singing.

[@karanrattan4935]

Copeland’s hi hat work was crazy

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Totally agree, it still is …

[@rhythmsaint73]

well done! Im a huge SC admirer and The Police. I have worked with Stewart and own his signature kit and the full set up he used on the letterman show. His sound and playing is unique and influenced many of us

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Wow, thanks for sharing this and your feedback!

[@rhythmsaint73]

@@ArtOfDrumming a tribute to Stewart kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4LCXnaQadOhqKs

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Well done Aaron! Thanks for sharing

[@drummerboyharm3078]

Hey Aaron. I limited myself to only de SC snaredrum, blue bell ride and a fine selection of the Paiste line crash cymbals. The SC signature snare is my drum to go if I don't know what to take to a gig or rehursal. Tama 4 life for me. Greetzz from The Netherlands

[@declancampion3051]

Really great, thank you. I saw Stuart on TV when I was very young and it changed me. I'm playing drums ever since. I love Bonham very much as well.

[@localbod]

*Stewart*

[@giuseppecasa3574]

congratulations for the video stewart copeland is one of my favorites one of the most original for style excellent work you are amazing

[@statmagic]

Excellent work here. The tom sounds are spot on. The one thing I notice is the crack that Copeland's snare has. I always thought it was because his snare was tuned very high. But I'm not a drummer so I have no idea.

[@jackdixon29jd]

On the earlier material eg. Roxanne and Walking, his snare was tuned much lower compared to later on (Synchronicity and Reunion tour)

[@TupDigital]

Copeland all day...very nice covers and re-creation of his kit sounds! Beautiful tones and more crisp and present than so many of his era (Police that is)

[@usposandman]

I am a fan of the beat in most any music and Stewart's syncopation in Walking on the Moon is spectacular.

[@SoundIntervention]

I saw The Police in 1983 when I was a kid in Blackpool on their Synchronicity tour.. I knew one of their roadies and he got me a pair of Stewart Copeland's drumsticks which were really fat timbale sticks - they had no tips. i think this also helped define his sound.

[@Jonathan-dj5ry]

Please, PLEASE use Paiste Cymbals instead of Zildjian for Copeland stuff! Sounds great tho :)

[@ArtOfDrumming]

😉

[@musicalchairs777]

Apparently he recorded with Zildjians on these tracks, according to his tech and some photos of the recording sessions.

[@JotaMcCready]

Wow!! Amazing job!

[@sheridanargyle]

Stewart Copland is a rhythmic genius, turned everything around & reinvented rhythms, best drummer in the word in my opinion, unique sound on crisp over tightened skins on Tama kits, check out his drumming on "One world" & "Driven to tears"

[@humphrey2391]

I agree!

[@SynZ777]

In the pocket every single time

[@shotgundrums]

Music used to be so flavorful, dynamic, and inspiring.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯🤟👍🏻

[@courtbeall7768]

Keith Moon's 60s Premier kit from I Can See For Miles.A true one of a kind for sure.

[@simonalexandercritchley439]

Stewart was great for bringing a lot of new rythms and sounds to rock because of living in exotic places and incorporating African, middle eastern and caribe an styles. He used Tama kits with a a Pearl snare and octobans to have different sound to anybody else. His sound changed over time from medium /high to high and coated emporers tuned high. Later recordings the snare had a real crack to it.

[@s1vrbck_fitness]

You guys are amazing!🤩

[@defrigge]

Interesting video, with some(!) similarity to Copelands really outstanding sound and groove. But I understand that it is obviously not so easy to really nail both sound (with definitely other than the used gear) and Copeland groove/dynamics/feel. All in all, thanks for the video! This is the info I had found when I searched for Copeland's drum sets: Original live kit set-up (1984) Tama Imperial Star Mahogany Drums (9-ply) and Paiste Cymbals: Drums - Midnight Blue 10x8" Rack Tom 12x8" Rack Tom 13x9" Rack Tom 16x16" Floor Tom 14x5" Pearl Jupiter Snare 22x14" Bass Drum 20x16" Tama Gong Drum Tama Octobans Low Pitch (x4) Two Tama Tymp Toms Wood Blocks Cymbals - Paiste 13" Formula 602 Medium Hi-Hats 16" 2002 Thin Crash 8" 2002 Bell 7.5 Ufip Ictus Bell 8" 2002 Splash (x2) 11" 2002 Splash 14" Rude Crash Ride 16" Rude Crash Ride 24" Rude Ride Crash 20" 2002 China Stewart also used Calato Regal Tip Rock Wood Tipped Drumsticks The Police Reunion (2007-2008) tour kit Tama Starclassic Maple Drums and Paiste Cymbals: Drums - Custom Police Blue Sparkle Maple Wood 10x8" Tom 13x9" Tom 12x8" Tom (To the left of his snare drum) 16x16" Floor Tom 18x16" Floor Tom 20x14" Tama Gong Drum 22x18" Bass Drum 14x5" Tama SC145 Stewart Copeland Signature Snare Tama Custom Police Blue Sparkle Octobans (x4) (custom made for Copeland) Cymbals - Paiste 12" Prototype Micro Hi-Hats 16" Signature Full Crash 17" Signature Fast Crash 18" Signature Fast Crash 18" Signature Full Crash 18" 2002 Flat Ride (prototype) 22" Signature Blue Bell Ride 10" Signature Splash 8" Signature Bell 8" Signature Prototype Splash Vater Stewart Copeland Standard Sticks in use as well.

[@tlkshowhst]

You need to release sample packs for all of this hard work!

[@nikojamb1508]

Amazing video boys! Keep up the good work :)

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

SC is one of my all time favorite drummers; his energy and creativity is off the charts! Also, it’s amazing how well you guys did considering you didn’t use any of the gear Stewart used. He’s always played Tama and Paiste/Paiste rude cymbals.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks so much PNW!

[@javidavi]

THIS!!! is the one I was waiting for! Thanks!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

😎

[@markusthedrummer8143]

@@ArtOfDrumming RIDICULOUS and INSULTING to use zildijian CRAP when even mentioning Stewart. As a lifelong Paiste player I'm infuriated. Seriously. Who was in charge of this video? Do you know how much 1980's 13" Paiste 602 hi-hats go for these days? All because of Stewart. Sheesh!

[@ktube3054]

Great work man. I think you nailed it. Although his sound did change slightly over the years. His snare got tighter and snappier specifically by Ghost in the Machine. Last piece to mention was his use of the octobans which were a big part of his overall sound. Nonetheless fantastic work!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏 and your totally right

[@deanlongthon4963]

You are a fantastic. Well done.

[@luiludwig]

Super 👍 🥁👌 Pascal - super Job !

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯🙏 Lui!

[@section8usmc53]

I quite like the Stewart Copeland signature snare. It caught my attention the first time I heard it. I don't know that I'd buy one unless I had a good amount of disposable income, as there are other snares that are definitely more of a priority for me, but it's pretty nice. Maybe someday.

[@VinylGloParkingLot]

Brings me back my memories when I was in high school early '80

[@ArtOfDrumming]

🤟

[@drummersaad]

I think his toms are tuned way higher compared to this.

[@RolandDuke]

Yea and his snare was cranked.

[@necrodamus5481]

Indeed he did. But the question was it both the batter and reso heads? Or was it just the batter head and he tuned the reso heads low

[@RolandDuke]

@@necrodamus5481 think it was just the batter head?, think he put a die cast hoop on the batter.

[@necrodamus5481]

@@RolandDuke I gotcha. I tried hi low tuning on my Toms and I think I understood what the man meant by cutting through the mix. Perfect to make my 16x14 sound like a timpani. Though I will keep a 16x16 floor tom just so it does sound deadish

[@drewlawrence696]

Although he played a TAMA Imperialstar kit, he used a Pearl COB 'Jupiter' snare....cymbals were PAISTE 'Rude'...and others from the paiste stable.

[@Semiam1]

You nailed the bass drum

[@Tdrums8]

Your drummer in this vid was great ..Some applause for the guy ..Sounded just like Copeland

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏 for sharing your feedback!

[@CFChristian]

Why are you guys so good at this? 😂

[@briansansone]

Are you sure it was a delay effect on "Walking On The Moon"? I always thought Copeland just played it himself, without any delay effect. Seems doable. Especially for him. Triplets with one stick on the rim, and the other on the hat...plus a little ghost note-ing. It sounds like if there was any delay, it was very minimal, and most of the groove is Copeland.

[@GeraMontes]

Spot on!

[@jonathancant2031]

Now you should try and a recreation of Stewart Copeland’s live setup / drum sound

[@phillyblunt138]

Nailed it, again!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

🙏😊

[@michael.wiegand]

The snare was off in the Bonham video, but this nails Stewart Copeland. Well done.

[@Zazquatch1]

Those were the best sounding Hi-Hats I have heard in years. Got to have me a pair of those =) ...one day maybe...

[@miloscoopy2469]

Appreciate highly for your efforts!!!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks Milo!

[@diddyhayes]

Spot on. Liking these videos a lot. How to create a sound with what you already have? Great idea. Especially using Zildjian for Copeland’s sound. Another showcase of how brand loyalty is nonsense.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

🤟 thanks, totally agree

[@keithmoon3190]

The crosstick sounds good

[@geddyleesmullet84]

For Walking On The Moon, Copeland used a delay effect on the snare drum to add delay/ echo.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

True

[@somerandomguy4760]

Joey jordison just passed the other day please do a video on him in his memory please

[@kibibu]

Holy shit that sucks

[@ArtOfDrumming]

RIP 💯

[@drumbo62]

Nailed the Roxanne snare sound but later when Stewart had more say he opted for a higher pitch crack that he described “will knock a bird out of the sky”

[@Piper2112]

Both covers were completely spot on. Great work!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks so much 🙏

[@adrianlyord5300]

Very good once again!

[@rod4real]

Copeland rules! He has created a unique sound and style for himself.

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Totally agree

[@bless6952]

three genius

[@AlenIlijic]

Fantastic, well done!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Many thanks!

[@tubular167]

My all time favourite drummer....superb 😁😁

[@makisogroove]

this channel deserves to blow up for good man

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏

[@drummerboyharm3078]

Yes. The hi-hat on his drumming it's an instrument on itself. Typical Copeland!

[@nigelsmith721]

Great vid.

[@PizzzaBoy]

gosh that setup is beautiful

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@johnsalaman503]

That was great, not a fan of the police, but I can agree they are all extremely gifted musicians, Copeland being my favorite.great job on the making of this

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏 John!

[@mrspublic6860]

U should do one on his later kit that was way more interesting on like zenyatta and synchronicity

[@thaddeuscorea]

the sidestick stick should be turned around for the louder more definitive sound. That is the way he often played it. Also, Copeland's fierce playing style had a huge effect on the sound he got. He was hitting so hard that he partially chokes the drum. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnzMZIhriciIidk

[@StorckOnBass]

I know what you’re trying to say, and I’m not saying you’re wrong but there’s just a thing to notice. The reason why the sidestick sound is louder when the stick in turned around is because you’re hitting the rim with the thick part or your stick. The thing is, the drummer in this video (don’t know what his name is) plays the sidestick without turning the stick around, but he does move the stick closer to the rim so that he hits it before the (thin) neck of the drumstick. The difference between the way he plays it and turning the stick around is extremely minimal, and it’s easier to just keep the stick with the neck towards the rim because thats how you’d normally hold your stick.

[@thaddeuscorea]

@@StorckOnBass yes, I understand what you're saying. I can see that, but I believe the loudest and clearest sidestick sound is with the stick turned around. I'm not saying that the other way is wrong, but I am saying that I haven't seen any live footage of Copeland playing sidestick without the stick backwards. When I play sidestick, I always turn it backwards if the song arrangement allows because I think it sounds much better. But also, other players may have the skill to keep the stick regular and still pop out a great sidestick sound. We are all different.

[@StorckOnBass]

@@thaddeuscorea Yeah, that's definitely true. Stewart did indeed mostly play the sidestick with his stick backwards. Though I think (it's quite hard to see so I'm not sure) he doesn't at this gig: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpaVdKivfqxqrpo

[@thaddeuscorea]

@@StorckOnBass no doubt Copeland could do it either way, but, in the video you mentioned, I think I see him turn the stick from backwards (sidestick) to regular at 1:59 , and looks to me backwards for the sidestick at 3:03. Not trying to argue. This shit is fascinating to me.

[@JC-zw9vs]

Completely agree, Stewart really hit em hard back then - gave the attack on the sound.

[@luizfernandomichaelli4753]

Very nice

[@SebaNunez91]

I have the Tama signature Snare... sound incredibly great when it's tune up to death, just like Copeland do in his last years

[@jackiedand]

dang you guys stacked it pretty high 2:07 how did you get it down xD

[@DougBrito]

A classic!!!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

😎💯

[@NYSkinsFan82]

Only thing missing are the octobans. Well done 👏👏

[@dulceperez82dp]

Do a Joey Jordison drum recreation for his passing please

[@MatthiasKnorrMusic]

keine Paiste Cymbals für die Stewart Copeland Sound re-creation??? Sehr schade

[@isimartin6612]

I love your vídeos. The secret weapons of amazing drummers. Please could you put one of Boris Williams (The Cure) and Mick Brown (Dokken)? Thank you for your vídeos !

[@honuman39]

When I see people transposing Copeland's playing I always think that they're missing the point. His style is more about an energy and approach to playing than the specific notes. He even said in more recent interviews that the particular take on the albums were what he happened to play during that take and that the next take was very different. He didn't have hard line parts written out. It was more feel which is what gave him that unique quality. Other drummers that do this are Keith Moon and Mitch Mitchell.

[@DarthAnubis1138]

Did he not play a Pearl Jupiter snare? It was that or a Pearl B4514

[@adrianlyord5300]

Yes definitely.... Especially with the die cast hoop on the top! COB shell!

[@torstrick-]

This may be true from a re-creation perspective but a couple of notes; 1 - I don't remember if it was in the documentary Can't Stand Losing You or in an interview but I remember Copeland saying something like that the drum tech would come in an get everything tuned up, and that IIRC everything was "tuned high" and "ringy, they sounded like tin cans." I feel like you're working backward from post-production and not quite landing in the right spot. 2 - the person playing the example isn't *playing* like Stewart Copeland, who hits a lot harder, or at least he did back then. Thanks.

[@Bob.Silverstein]

Roxanne sounds great but you need MOAR hi hat! :) :)

[@M4RCM0NT31R0]

Hell yeah!

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏

[@dimisle]

Ist Not only the Sound my Friend…. Its the Style ob beating…. And the Wohle Thing…..

[@rambleo]

Copeland super drummer! 🔥

[@ArtOfDrumming]

💯

[@tlkshowhst]

Perfect

[@ArtOfDrumming]

Thanks 🙏

[@rosscarpenter5604]

Tom sound is closer to Police but those are Tama Imperialstars today and for the 20 years at the least, it’s Starclassic with a much different sound more open ringing he’s become a completely different drummer post Police and the drums make the difference aside from the man himself. He has adopted jazz and molded it as he progressed. He’s even better now than ever before if that’s even possible.

[@necrodamus5481]

I gotta ask. Did Copeland tune his Tom's high/low? Batter heads were high and the reso heads were low?

[@SONORSQ2guy]

This is the 70’s dead drum sound which was popular at that time. Zenyatta Mendatta Ghost in the Machine Synchronicity The snare and toms were cranked high.

[@TeddyLeppard]

Copeland always had his snares tuned very high, as well as being heavily muffled for that dry, snappy sound.

[@stevelk1329]

Interesting setup info, thanks. Cross stick sounded a bit dry.

[@jamesf.ryaniii7918]

Copeland has always used 3 mounted toms - 10", 12", 13". Originally, he had all 3 toms mounted in front of him - as you did. However, he didn't like how those 3 mounted toms pushed his hi-hats too far to the left. So, he put the 12" to the left of his hi-hats and kept the 10" and 13" in front. So, technically he still has 3 mounted toms. I don't know when or what songs he hits that 12" tom.

[@drummerboyharm3078]

I never used a 14" ft. Only a "16 and later he added a "18ft