Stihl MS 462 vs. MS 440 head to head chainsaw race

Stihl MS462 vs. MS440 in a head to head chainsaw race. This is one of my all time favorite class of chainsaw. 70cc new school vs. old school, 25" bar and chain. Both saws are very similar in performance and I do think I'd bet the time would be next to identical with muff mod on 440. Maybe another video….

[@zeromark202]

Both awesome performers, I love those old school 044/440’s

[@timberandtools]

Definitely top shelf performance and very lightweight !!

[@markomarko4590]

I have a Ms 440 And Ms 441 The 440 one of the best chainsaws ever made

[@timberandtools]

Absolutely, but to be honest the 462 will be legendary in its own imo

[@diplo-matiko]

440 great saw😀👍

[@timberandtools]

Indeed! One of my all time favorites 👊🏻

[@billchambers7760]

Got 'em both. Love 'em both. But the 462 is a better saw.

[@timberandtools]

I do like the 462 more as well

[@russbatzer6970]

New sub here! Congrats on 1K, love my 462 and thanks for the demo 👍🤘

[@timberandtools]

Thanks for being here!! Yeah 462 is a BOSS💪🏻

[@lukereynolds9907]

440 needs a dual port muffler atleast to be fair

[@timberandtools]

This is true, but tbh I think it may have beaten it with a straight shot or dual port on there!

[@bryanmcgovern7858]

Agreed. that muffler could be good for a second faster.

[@IndianaDoug]

Congrats on 1k👍🏻

[@timberandtools]

Thank you 👊🏻😎

[@bryanmcgovern7858]

Both of those saws are awesome! I have a slant fin 044 that I'm chasing an air leak on. I thought it was the impulse line or intake boot so I changed them both but no luck. I even tried a new carb cause I was told the old carbs had main jet problems but it's still reving high on idle. So I'm gonna put new seals and a base gaskets and hope that finally does it .

[@timberandtools]

Thanks! The slants are super cool! Usually if I’m chasing an air leak I’ll get a vacuum tester on it and use soapy water. Good luck finding it my friend!!!!

[@timberandtools]

@imfree62 yes sir!

[@tamicure6150]

Congratulations on the 1,000 👀 subscribers ~ great content always!

[@timberandtools]

Thank you!!! 😁

[@Brian2bears]

Nice Mr T. 440 fan personally...

[@timberandtools]

It’s hard not to be!!! Such a legend saw! You prefer the 440 over the 500 as well?

[@Brian2bears]

@@timberandtools I cannot speak to that one only on hearsay/watch. Small wood is terror for a 500 it seems.

[@timberandtools]

@@Brian2bears yes I agree, I have one but don’t run it a ton. It is a great saw but up to 28” wood I see no difference in the 462/500. Save your money lol 😆

[@andrewscott2866]

Awesome shootout! Congrats on 1000 subs🥳

[@timberandtools]

Thanks !! Appreciate ya👊🏻

[@jameskringlee8974]

pre- 1995 phase 1 "emission" standards .... the early, stronger 12 mm crank shaft bearing 044 with the "slant fin" cylinder, still pre-emission standard timing and ports, used on the 10 mm 044 was probably the best "old school" base professional level saw. Still has some "bark" and "bite" and only a insufficient bit of excess weight compared to the new offering. I had worn out my little 12 inch bar cheepie saw, knew a bit but never felled a big tree, a neighbor alerted me to the fact that another neighbor had received notice from the city that they had to remove an oak wilt tree. The city would "farm it out" for $1250.00. I offered my neighbor a "cost" price of $400.00. The oak measured 54 inches across at the base. I had some money to spend. I read a bit, shopped around a bit and wound up with some bargains. A new, dusty, 66 inch double ended bar at a dealer "up north" for $100.00. What did I know? THE TREE WAS 54 INCHES ACROSS, a couple of bargain price slant fin 12 mm's that another dealer wanted to sell at a buy both get a deal price and 1/2 the parts for a Grandberg chain saw mill for pennies on the dollar at the "Northern" closeout sale at one location and the other 1/2 of the parts, also for pennies on the dollar, at the nearby "Northern" location sale. How does that happen? I looked for help, a friend of a friend who had tree experience offered to help with the felling for a 12 pack of beer. He did give a few "strange looks" at me and the 2 saw 66 inch bar rig. It took the 2 of us well less than 1 minute total sawing time to cut the wedge and make the back cut. The tree turned out to be hollow with a shell of less than 6 inches max anywhere at the base. I could have felled it alone in a couple of minutes with my old 12 inch saw if I could have got it to run. A big wind storm struck and the city opened up free dumping at their tree disposal site, so much for the branches. The "alerting" neighbor alerted me to the fact that the father of a new neighbor had bought a woodmizer sawmill. So that "adventure" began.

[@timberandtools]

Dang! Saw addiction happens lol. Sucks that was a hollow tree 🙃

[@Erik-t7h]

@@jameskringlee8974 yeah I heard the older ones were good

[@timberandtools]

They were , really great saws

[@nepafisherman7492]

Great video Ralph!

[@timberandtools]

Thank you!!👊🏻

[@brockcarter6323]

Good stuff

[@timberandtools]

Thank you, appreciate ya watching !

[@ciphercode2298]

Been using a 441c for my big firewood saw and on an Alaskan mill for 10 years. Its a bit heavy, but its been a good saw. It was on a shelf in my basement and we got a flash flood and it got submerged. Ive got it to start,but my throttle seems stuck. I think the throttle cable is seized up. Ill tinker with it a bit more,but im gonna have to make a decision on fixin it or replacing it

[@timberandtools]

I remember you mentioning that on another comment. Did not get it running yet huh? 441 good saw but there is a fair value to sell and upgrade to a newer saw there as well!

[@ciphercode2298]

@@timberandtools I finally got to take it apart. The water apparently got up just under the carburetor. The sawdust fines had gotten packed in around the linkage and cable and where it got wet it was like cement. After about 45 minutes with a few pick tools and a can of carb cleaner shes throttling up again. I hate that it happened, but I'm glad it's worked out. I let it idle some and did a few test cuts. Hopefully itll stay together for a few more seasons.

[@timberandtools]

@ciphercode2298 good news! Yeah it’s sucks it happened but sounds like you’re In the clear. Thanks for sharing!! Always happy to hear good news

[@disneyisourcure4348]

Love ittttt 😊

[@timberandtools]

Thanks you !!

[@Psy6o]

I'll pick a ported 440 over any saw

[@timberandtools]

440 is a great saw no doubt 🔥

[@timberandtools]

@imfree62 the 440/460 hybrid is a sweet set up

[@Psy6o]

Will you sell your 440

[@timberandtools]

I will sell many saws, this 440 is my first pro saw I can’t part with it

[@timberandtools]

@imfree62 absolutely 💯

[@Erik-t7h]

If that was white oak the 440 prob would win

[@timberandtools]

@@Erik-t7h they are very close no doubt, do you have both? Which on do you prefer?

[@Erik-t7h]

@@timberandtools I've had 372xp Husqvarna and ran 462s logging and the 462s are hurting a little on torque I like how they handle they're light but that's what made me think in hardwood a 440 prob could hold its own . We had a 461 that cut hardwood better than the 462 we had idk maybe we had a weak one

[@timberandtools]

@@Erik-t7h 461 def has more torque little bit more cc but the 462 is great saw all around. They run out of hard pulling on the chain after a 28” bar. I do think the 440 has more torque though just a touch they are very close no doubt. 372 great saws as well

[@Erik-t7h]

@@timberandtools yeah 462 is a good saw

[@timberandtools]

@@Erik-t7h they are 100%