Stihl MS311 vs a Pile of Dog Crap

[@ozdatman]

Walt from Afleetcommand says people are always telling him ''Stihl mechanics are better mechanics'' and he says, ''Sure, thats because they have to be''.

[@LeadStarDude]

I have been using the same MS311 for over a decade now without issue.

[@timothybyrom5560]

Stihl is in a lot of ways like Ford. They're old school in the way they run business. Instead of having a board of directors say hey let's make a lot of money all at once by selling, they just kept chugging along, keeping it in the family. Where they've messed up is their consumer grade stuff. It ain't no worse than any other, but it seems like it's all people buy. It's over priced a lot of the time, but a lot of the little saws get used once or twice. They sit around, the fuel goes bad,and they end up on the pile. On the other end of the spectrum, you have the dumbass that buys a bottom dollar saw and thinks he can run a tree service with it.

[@modarkthemauler]

The 54cc Poluan might be compared to the Husqvarna 254xp that is also 54cc, or the 357xp that is 56.5cc. Both of those saws are sub 60cc saws on a 60cc crankcase with the 262xp and 359 being the big bore cylinders on the same crankcase.

[@alexstromberg7696]

357xp is faster than 359. Close ports vs open.

[@organicvids]

Never had issues starting a PROPERLY cared for stihl. On the other hand have never seen a motor start more reliably than a honda.

[@dasdrei5059]

I have had several “pull-ons” over the years. Had trouble with some of them wanting to start back up after getting warm. They’ll tear your “rotator cuff” pulling on the “pull-on” trying to start it at times..🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️😂

[@peanutbuttersanwhich1488]

& wow! the poulan pro won! dang! Crazy! I didn’t see that coming. Next video! Stihl 311 vs Echo 590

[@gillespriod5509]

I love your Channel! STIHL may be the company with more fanboys in the world!🤣

[@woofy548]

Id like to see these two saws torn apart, and match up how the inner parts of these two saws compare. The other big thing that Stihl has over most of the competition... Dealer support. You buy a poulan, and need it fixed, good luck, because they're labeled as "throw away" saws. I live in a fairly large city, and you can't find a Husqvarna dealer anywhere close. You can only buy the homeowner Huskies. Sooo that's also why you're paying that price for Stihl. The dealer support, and accessibility.

[@hime273]

What does dealer support equate to other than other than being there to sell you more stuff with the same name on it.

[@kipmyers5897]

A husky is made for a logger that knows how to work on saws a sthil 311 is a hoss of a saw made for men who want to say they bought a sthil.....I own them all 30 sthil and husky and husky is king nut o.n the level of pro saws stay away if u know nothing......if u don't I'm sure yuppy sthil is for u

[@jurpikag]

Stihl = One good marketing company. Every brand has its strengths and weaknesses.

[@surfsailor2003]

Funny, I'm building a Stihl MS390 right now, Its on the bench, just eating a late lunch an getting right back to it right now. Should have it running today. Its ported with a custom pop-up piston, good rings, custom muffler mod and I machined the bearing pockets to move the bearings up to reduce the squish, carb and manifold mods and a few other things. I dont care for that family of saws either (MS 290, 310, 390) however there are some advantages to that saw design. Bearings are much larger than many pro saws, eg: MS361, MS362 and many others. Much harder to egg out the bearing pockets on clam shells when very high compression is involved. Which I think this one will have, we'll see. If it runs strong and your up for it, I'll send it to you for a whack off against a stock 390 or any saw. Ogden Saw Works Wilmington NC

[@darrenwilson7688]

This I would like to see.

[@novicelumberjack]

That would be awesome, and I'd love to do that. Check with me first though, I don't always have a red oak cant to use for these Wack-Offs.

[@surfsailor2003]

You gotta spell wack like this "WHACK" its got more flavor. Ran into multiple small issues with the MS390 looks like tomorrow is first start day.

[@DaveyBlue32]

That’s an awesome fun build and they make an excellent low cost work saw! With a 20” bar they are wicked!!! They will pull the 24” good if needed… I’ve pulled the 28” with skipper chain…you have to modify the oiler to get enough oil for the chain…. I love the 1184 for my sealer and I go around the edges of my pan and the entire bottom of the cylinder right around my bearings and be super careful and keep the bearings and seals in their little slots. I take 320 grit and really bevel all my port windows and the piston top and bottom edges also… I sand all sharp edges rounded… run 32:1 for a couple tanks then 40:1… the muffler has that flap that you drill with a 3/4” then put the cover with it’s plate ground back some… fun build so enjoy it! The Hyway piston is great from hls pro parts.com

[@JandSChainsaw]

ive got one of the craftsman versions of the 330 40 bucks at the flea market..its the same deal with cars/trucks or anything ive never been too picky good and bad in it all...

[@dubbssawshop]

I agree with what you said, eventually Poulan will catch on again. For the amount of saw you get for the money it’s a great package. I tell people all the time to try these model Poulan’s and they’ll be very surprised!!!👍 Give em a chance.

[@peanutbuttersanwhich1488]

Stihl guys, Stihl crews, Stihl fanboys are pissed right now lol

[@timothybyrom5560]

I like the wild things too. A muffler, and intake mod,get rid of the primer bulb, twenty inch bar, with .325 chain and you got a good light good handling saw for small to medium sized stuff. It ain't something you want to bury knee deep, and ride through, but it will save your back on the small stuff. Non strato of course.

[@Houseworksaws]

Husqvarna 362xp 362xp special, 362XPG Special. Early models were small bar (K095) Then late medel was large mount (D009).. Early models had a unique Gilardoni 47mm top end and late model were 48mm like the 365. Great saws same chassis as 365/372xp.

[@ryanbruner8928]

I've never paid dealer price for a chainsaw,I just get broken ones and rebuild them. My favorite saws are ones that start when I need them :) and yes,Bacon is delicious too.

[@SaltyMike396]

I know this is all in fun, bu folks need to know that there is A LOT more to being "the better chainsaw" than a couple of seconds in a cut.

[@novicelumberjack]

They know. But as to what you are referring to, between these two saws, the Stihl will have more breakdowns than the Poulan if the were both ran all day long every day. The modern Stihls are not what they used to be. Used to be, the only difference between the pro saws ad the farm/ranch saws or even homeowner grade, was that the pro saws had more power. Not the case anymore, and the Stihl 311 is nothing special and would not outlast this Poulan.

[@SaltyMike396]

@@novicelumberjack I've only owned pro saws from stihl and husky. I've owned homeowner saws from craftsman, echo, and Poulan. I do believe Stihl to be the best buy for me. Husky is good also, except for their screws and bar nuts vibrating loose regularly. Loctite makes it a pain to maintain.

[@novicelumberjack]

I can understand enjoying a brand, and Stihl has made some very good saws. I have owned probably 20-30 Husqvarna Jonsered saws. Only one of them have ever lost a single bolt or nut. In turn, I have owned a Stihl 460 that I could not keep together. It rattled everything loose. I even went to start it once and it had rattled all but one of the recoil bolts loose and I ended up ripping the entire recoil assembly off the saw. It took a chunk of the case with it. That was when I began to truly turn away from Stihl. So, there are horror stories with all the brands. But to think that one is exclusively the best...that's foolish.

[@vernfowlkes8110]

Poluan is made by Husqvarna. Husqvarna/Poulan cuts faster because they rev higher. The older 029 Stihl was a 55cc and would have been a better match. BTW, I got really lucky, if you believe in luck, and bought an 029 for $65 that all it needed was fresh gas.

[@ciprianbartalis2515]

how much time that poulan wil resist in time? after 2. 3 years wil be gone, but 311 will cut even after 13 years

[@RumfordSledhead]

I see a lot of similarities between the 024/026 series saws and the these Poulans 2800-3750. Maybe its similar to the 036 too, my 044 is just different enough around the airbox with a big air filter to not make me see the similarities.

[@imperfectcuts7028]

Sthil isn't the only one to make a field injected saw. J red made a diesel saw I believe it was there first chainsaw. It was " fuel injected" very crude and primitive but fuel injected.

[@CorwinBos]

The 311, yeah, I can agree with that. A 390 with a muffler mod, not a piece of crap. Its a dead easy swap too.

[@eurokid83]

I have a PP305 and PP330 both are in great condition. Even with a muffler mod the 330 can’t out cut my 036 pro, or my CS-600P. I like my Poulans don’t get me wrong, but they’re just not in the same league cc for cc.

[@ozdatman]

Probably because your Poulans are 49cc and 54cc. The 036 is 62cc. Like you said cc for cc

[@eurokid83]

@@ozdatman well, if you wanna get technical my 026 Pro will absolutely destroy my PP305 they’re both 49cc. PP305 is running a 16” bar with 3/8 LP full comp full chisel chain. 026 pro is running 20” bar 3/8” full comp full chisel chain. Again, I like my Poulans but in stock form they lack power in general by comparison. They just don’t match up performance wise cc for cc to any of my other saws. That’s just my experience.

[@ethanpopdatyt7540]

When he said why Brodie even set this up lmao😂

[@ethanpopdatyt7540]

Stihl is way better all day I use Stihl I have seen them abused all day long 261, 391, 362 ,661 ,250 ,310,440,194t,180,170,462,460, I know for a fact these r great I have more than 20 plus hours on alll these saw they run they cut fuck poulan I just willing to bet that 311 chain dull asf

[@timothybyrom5560]

As with anything, there are good 3400's,and bad. I've experienced both. Can't do anything about heavy, but a port job does a lot of good. Some of those saws had so much squish that they won't even stay running when you set them down. Not enough dynamic compression. I have two craftsman 3.7 saws ,and I've helped them both out. No base gasket, and a little cleanup on the ports. One started out better than the other, but now they both run better. Still heavy. The thing I like about them is they're tough and reliable, not the fastest thing around, but they start every time, and they'll out last me.

[@Hambonebodi]

Lol😂 that poulan is really a partner i had a poulan 2750 .❤

[@novicelumberjack]

I appreciate your comment, but that is 100% Poulan design, through and through. The crankshaft and rod were made in Sweden, but the rest was made in the USA and it was completely designed here. Proof that Americans don't actually want a quality made American product, and they haven't for years. These were in production up until sometime around 2006 or so. Made in America. And quite good too.

[@stevez3041]

I ran a 311 for a few years and it was reliable but sure nothing to get excited about. I was glad to trade it in.

[@novicelumberjack]

Yeah, good saws, but just a farm and ranch saw. Nothing special.

[@robertmalecha8032]

I have one of the 330 that is running the factory 22” bar, been ported and tuned. It keeps up with my dollar 6100 no problem. It is lighter weight, balanced, and less finickey.

[@timothybyrom5560]

I like saws by just about every brand.

[@dubbssawshop]

😂. I love it. I was waiting for the first words to be…IN YOUR FACE!!!! Love the line up, great match up no doubt. 2 good saws. I hear that crap all the time that Poulan Sucks, it’s like embedded in peoples DNA or something. IDK. I don’t like Stihl due to like you said, price tag, for what they are, the price tag is 4x to much for any of them. Stihl does have good saws, so does every other manufacturer. Some I like more than others.

[@ozdatman]

The only reason I haven't paid for a stihl is because of stihl owners. They can't acknowledge other saws are good.

[@chainsawcanuck]

Love it, absolutely love it, great video boedy... Fan boys will be crying

[@j.c.lawntreesnow6272]

The "still" 311 should be renamed the 911 because it needs help bigtime

[@e954rr2]

100% agree on the Harley’s they shake apart

[@AndyH-13]

The 311 would have had an inferiority complex and couldn’t perform under pressure, poor thing. It had to put up with the Poulan T shirt, big green Poulan banner in the video, a big fella singing the praises of the Poulan saw.

[@timothybyrom5560]

I have two of the 62cc chineze saws. Love them. Only problem I see is that the handlebar is weak. Other than that they are a good one.

[@shakdidagalimal]

I looked up the "stats" of these two competitors on my APPLE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR PROPRIETARY MACONE STATION. That's all I want to say.

[@dieselmechanicsam]

I've got a Poulan 3400 that I almost have perfected. Carb rebuild coming soon and if it still don't wanna idle how I want and run how I like, I'll smash it with a 8lb hammer

[@darrenwilson7688]

Well I guess I got took. Bought a MS311. But it cuts great. A little heavy and sucks gas but it rips through any wood I have tried so far. You video was a bit humbling though.

[@novicelumberjack]

Sorry about that. They are truly good saws...for $400 brand new. And even still, an Echo 590 would truly wipe the deck with them.

[@peanutbuttersanwhich1488]

You should have bought an 590. Hell is wrong with you getting the 311

[@timothybyrom5560]

I hate to say it, but a lot of Stihl owners are just like Glock people.

[@beretta391s]

Except Glock actually makes a decent product...

[@timothybyrom5560]

@@beretta391s Stihl's professional series stuff is good. Husqvarna makes shitty saws too. Go buy a 136,or a 142. Pure crap. Those are the ones that I used to have to keep going for people. Scored cylinders, cracked mufflers falling off, whole saw shaking apart, oilers that dont oil. J U N K. I hated selling that crap. At that time you were better off going to Walmart and buying a wild thing, better saw for less money. My boss used to sell them by the truck load. Those people were just as ignorant about brand loyalty as the Stihl folks. Got me one of those good Swedish saws. I would have an old Stihl over a lot of other brands any day. Just like everyone else they went down the tube with these homeowner crap.

[@timothybyrom5560]

And Glock ain't the end all be all. A Canik will kick their ass for a lot less. There's a lot of guns that have passed them up. Just like Harley. 😊

[@timothybyrom5560]

And I'M NOT saying Stihl is the best. I like a lot of saws from a lot of different companies. I will say the toughest saw I've ever owned was an Olympyk 264F. It went through the fire with me. Never missed a lick. My stepson straight gassed it and that was that.

[@ahdam82]

Do you think poulan has the longevity of sthil? The way they can run day in day out on a professional level for years?

[@novicelumberjack]

Between these two saws, the Poulan is a better built saw and would outlast the Stihl. The modern Poulans do not have the quality that this one does.

[@robertmalecha8032]

The Poulen is a vertical split magnesium case saw. It was built back when Poulan was building real pro saws.

[@ahdam82]

@@novicelumberjack I have a poulan 3816 that sat for a while I’m gonna put a new carb and fuel ines on it. It has maybe 4 hrs on it. It will be my back up to my 562xp

[@jcsawshop]

Love the passion and you're right, Stihl isn't the best in every class. As a whole though, they are top dog for pro saws which as a former faller and now tree service guy is all I can speak to. I am not narrow minded either. I currently own and love 8 Huskys from a 346 up to a 395.

[@ATFisGay]

The husqvarna av, air filtration and lots of cross compatible parts makes husqvarna top dog for me.

[@Houseworksaws]

Someday I’ll find a Poulan 8500 then I’ll be happy. Few others I’d like to add to the collection but a 8500 would fit in just fine.

[@EcSsAwS]

POULAN FTW!!! Fuck stihl!!!! For the longest time I only had a poulan 3400. And I ran a 28” bar on it!! 😂. Ask Kevin smith. He seen it first hand ! And husky did in fact have a 362. Looks same as a 372 but 61cc

[@RumfordSledhead]

yup also in jonsered trim called 2063/2163.

[@Megellin]

I have a echo 600 that eats the 311 for lunch any day of the week stock and I bought mine for $150 used.

[@mr.somebody1493]

Harley even branded their own beer.

[@mr.somebody1493]

"F" Stihl, .......That has such a nice ring to it. 👍

[@Timschneller1]

The Harley comparison to Stihl is way off.

[@carolkampstra3474]

Most Stihls "seem" to last longer because the people that bought them usually take better care of them then a cheaper saw. A cheap saw is just a though away and not a good saw to them.

[@joshuajohnson4396]

My Maccullough eager beaver2.0 cuts Great. I put a 16"bar with a full house chain and it pulls almost as good as my Jonesered 2255 with a 20". I'd love to get some timing numbers for a Maccullough 1-43 that I use when my arm can handle the strain

[@Hambonebodi]

😂❤❤❤ I have had a few eager beavers , I loved mine , hard to work on if you need to replace the fuel lines .

[@chainsawcanuck]

Up here stihl is like Budweiser... People only buy it because it's always on sale...

[@rcreynolds6186]

I’ve never had issue with my 311

[@danclas5983]

When I was starting out on my own , mid to late 90"s I bought a Poulan 3450 Bad Boy. The purple and green Tim "Tool Man" Allen edition. Hell it looked cool and at the time it was all I could afford to spend. I ran the shit out of that saw and till this day it still runs like a raped ape. It doesn't get as much use now days cause I have a full stable of Sthil pro series saws mainly because of dealer support and that's about all there is other than box store stuff. The one point I will make is the overall quality of materials and build design seem to better on the Sthils. Worth the extra $ ? I've had good luck with them and can't complain.

[@razoredgesaws4202]

The poulan looks to be throwing bigger chips.

[@Mike-su8si]

I like poulan better than stihl still new stihls just don't puke enough bar oil out like poulan does it pukes really good I feel kinda bad for cheating that guy out of his broken poulan for my cheap stihl because the stihl was a problem soon after buying the cheap thing i was pissed off at myself for buying the stihl instead of the poulan for about 2 years until i found the right person to trade with getting rid of that stihl felt good

[@matthewknight5641]

People laugh and i own several pro saws including ms660 and 550xp and they are faster and stronger but as far as the most dependable is my 20 year old shindiawa that still runs perfect as it did the day it was new. And its actually faster than any other in its size that ive seen so far. Yeah the 550 xp is a bad ass but how will it be in 20 years ya know

[@bentwedgestanleybrand5818]

Personally I think if you Run non-ethanol gas. Good quality two-cycle oil. Any chainsaw will last you!

[@joshuajohnson4396]

Watch Buckin Billy's Poulans eat wood. I really love your videos mainly because I seem to like your personality. Thanks for the videos

[@garbizzi6868]

I dont know about calling it the woodsman whackoff.... But ..lol good video tho haha

[@oldcodger1929]

I bought a 311 it's an OK saw its over priced and the stihl dealer here sucks. I will never buy another one.

[@kipmyers5897]

Husky all day

[@kingsaws]

" the democrats must be doing this " lmao 🤣😆😂 " fuck stihl" this was a good one !

[@hvacmangoodman4]

Bodie good video man!

[@tonytribisonna9886]

I understand what you are saying about STIHL. What about Husqvarna there starting to do the same. It’s called advertising I don’t fall for it. I like both brands STIHL and Husqvarna and as you probably know your self there is good and bad in certain models saws in both brands. I don’t care about how quick it cuts cookies having a good reliable saw easy to to start run’s well is more enjoyable than running a saw that’s hard to start and run’s like a pig.

[@DaveyBlue32]

It’s important for those Stihl fanboys to try one of the real Poulan’s is what it’s all about… they all aren’t Walmart $100 dollar saw’s…. Gotta use your brain and do your homework and not repeat stuff that you hear on the innerweb…. There’s several models in each brand that are totally awesome saw’s… and there’s some real sleeper’s in that group too! I was a landscaper/tree guy who works for myself… I ran the Poulan and Poulan’s in Craftmen wrapping though the 80’s into the 90’s getting started…. I’d climb trees and do removals with a silver craftsmen 2.0or 2.3… The inventor of the nikasil cylinder lining was a German and he said that only the German Stihl company could use his patten … the chrome lining was done once that was said and the makers folded up or sold out…. Looking back we see those old chrome lined cylinders were pretty good!!! Lot’s of hysteria and hype…

[@FilmDich]

Moin Boedy Klasse Video und schöne Grüße Peter

[@Mike-su8si]

I use only poulan pr5020 probably small compared to all you guys but I don't care it works best with me and its what brand I've always used except for 2 years ago i listened to other people and tried a cheap stihl out and it was the worst saw i bought i couldn't return it because of store policy but the store screwed me over good and stihl did too that store had larger returned stihl chainsaws hanging up waiting to be resold as new i wish I had seen those rusted mufflers before buying mine but i didn't then they told me they couldn't take it back after i seen all those other used ones hanging up where other people took there's back because they weren't happy with it but they wouldn't take mine back so i cussed out the people at the desk and left and quit shopping at that store See i was originally gonna buy a newer poulan pro at that time but listened to my other friends words because they all use stihl and they knew i don't so they made me screw myself. but see they do like poulan pro chainsaws because they like getting they're stumps cut low and they're stihl couldn't get it done without going dull on them i got they're stumps cut in a few seconds and they said how much you give for that saw I told them the price they said that's not to bad. but if stihl was that great why couldn't they get the stump cut out so before i cut the stumps I asked what's wrong with your stihl why didn't you use that to cut it out they kinda laughed and said the stumps to big for the saw so i checked they're chain and it was dry and dull

[@Bixby-and-Buckshot]

Any time you see "Farm boss", "rancher" or whatever, you know its a pile of junk. The marketing is making up for the lack of capability.

[@CutterCH]

LMAO. I love it. Now watch all the Stihl fans chime in with excuses on why their brand lost. Happens way too much. Excuses Excuses. Stihl and their overpriced clamshell saws. In order to get a halfway decent Stihl is to buy one of their pro saws and pay over $1,000. The only brand that doesn't offer magnesium cases on saws unless they're one of their pro line saws. Didn't used to be like that. Stihl puts out more plastic than anything now.

[@hvacmangoodman4]

NICE!!🤘🤘🇺🇸🤙🤙

[@crazyfeller5704]

👍

[@SCouch-cw6je]

Have a 311 at work and hate it. It’s junk

[@isrstrategies]

Buy you and a friend a neotec 872i

[@Mike-su8si]

I wont buy another stihl chainsaw but will other stihl products like pole tree saw blades. I'll keep buying poulan even if they cost me more than $239 some year whenever I should give that one guy atleast $25 for him trading me his good broke poulan pro that's what I'm gonna do i don't like cheating people he might think he cheated me for me giving him that junk stihl I gotta get his poulan pro a new coil because i broke the original see it didn't break i broke it pulling the plug wire

[@richardpichette4380]

you are friggin nuts!!!!!

[@ArmorDllon]

Lol I’m dead

[@petrburda1764]

Je to kulišárna v mých rukách by byla rychlejší MS 311 Stihl 😁.

[@w6qd]

Nice dookie.

[@djole-haringa]

Stihl os shit chainsaw

[@extremefishermen6335]

That's a bunch of bull. Pollan fan trying to glorify there brand. I don't buy it 😕.

[@novicelumberjack]

Are you being sarcastic? I really can't tell. Or arebyou simply certain that the Stihl wouldnt get beat by a Poulan? I go through a lot of effort to make sure these Wack-Offs are extremely fair. I cut 14" x 14" cants of red oak specifically to make it fair. I also run out of the box Husqvarna X-cut chain. I keep it as fair as I can. Stihl has been very successful in their marketing, and Poulan used to make professional grade saws. Everything you watched is true.

[@timflike1460]

The dog crap is more valuable

[@novicelumberjack]

Always somebody gotta badmouth the Poulan. Why? You just watched it beat the pants off a bigger, more expensive, newer Stihl. You should be saying, "Wow, that seems like a great saw". Their marketing has you hooked so bad, you can't see the truth even when it's staring you right in the face.

[@kipmyers5897]

Fk sthil

[@kipmyers5897]

Fk sthil