Still the world's fastest booting PC in 2021?

[@thewatchworks1372]

The people who disliked are just jealous because their Commodore 64 doesn’t boot as fast as your Tandy

[@ArmourGX]

That has to be the first time anything even remotely close to that sentence has been said since the 90s.

[@televiciousgoober]

I keep both of mine on sharing a 1084. 😊

[@DsgSleazy]

@@ArmourGX I have no doubt that what you said is 100% true.

[@geniusonejustin5847]

I might down vote because I think the Tandy TRS-80 CoCo series booted faster

[@CockroachFPV]

🤣

[@thisismyreply6299]

I'll be back after 10 years when it gets recommended to everyone by the algorithms

[@ppilihplul]

Lol actually good idea ill be here too

[@thatoneguy7451]

Lol actually good idea ill be here three

[@Vekkizunt]

Me five

[@SweatySockGaming]

It got recommended to me randomly.

[@BlueChinchompa]

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[@MeatVision]

PC drag racing is my new passion

[@igorszamaszow171]

That's the kind of computer drag racing in which Todd Togers can finally prove and improve his record!

[@woldemunster9244]

We had a Pentium, fastest it went was about 50kmh. Then the rope snapped.... Yeah, had to try hitting speedbumps while towing a mid tower.

[@MichaelComputerBoy]

@@woldemunster9244 This PC boot faster than a Windows 10 PC with SSD

[@woldemunster9244]

@@MichaelComputerBoy I know. I use fast ssd as my boot drive.

[@TrueSpeak-TS]

I don't think it's exactly PC drag racing.

[@AbandonedMaine]

The fact that the thing still boots up and runs is testament to quality engineering. CRT noise is just part of the charm of older systems.

[@theclearsounds3911]

Charm? Those old tube monitors and TV's used to hurt my ears! I'm so glad they're gone! But, now that I'm older, I would have to put my ear right up to the monitor to hear it anyway.

[@robertb6276]

And with modern highend PC that whine comes from the GPU.

[@xPLAYnOfficial]

@@beardsntools Highly recommend the new Pi HDMI mod that lets you send crisp, lag-free HDMI out from something like this via a Raspberry pi zero. Very cool project.

[@Medachod]

@@theclearsounds3911 The CRT has a lot of things about it that are lost in current televisions to this day. The color scale being incredible, scaling capabilities being insane and just a whole lot more I couldn't put into one comment. The downside being their heavy weight, fuzz until the very late HD models that didn't last and the same ending statement as my first paragraph. I hope someday, a modern television can inherit from the CRT more. Would also be nice if they made OLED 1080p too. or at least 1440p.

[@madyogi6164]

I was always worried more about my eyes, rather than ears. 85Hz refresh solved the issue, but not completely. Some breaks were always needed. Flip side of the coin is that LCDs catch the signal bloody slow or from the wrong input. I use one monitor plugged to 2 pc-s. 1st is DVI, 2nd is VGA. Issue? Vendor (Philips in my case) implemented some auto detecting crap-ware rather than hard-coded selection from settings menu. This results the signal being switched to VGA each time DVI goes into sleep, reboots or turns off. Nonsense...

[@jamesl.5849]

I was a lead on the MS-DOS ROM team, thank you for sharing old tech. Brings back old memories.

[@Alewort]

You were really doing the Lord's work with that, and I can tell you I was VERY happy with the boot time when my family went from a 1000 to a 1000TL.

[@jex-the-notebook-guy1002]

@@Alewort Why is everyone saying "doing the Lord's work" so much recently?

[@Alewort]

@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 To get to the other side?

[@baddestmofoalive]

@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 because doing so is doing the Lord’s work.

[@jex-the-notebook-guy1002]

@@baddestmofoalive If God didn't want you do it, it ain't.

[@le9038]

10 years later: "is it STILL the world's fastest booting PC in 2031?"

[@mandarbamane4268]

* 10 years later * RISC V CPUs: surprise mofos!

[@captaincaption]

I'll watch it

[@thromboid]

Chances are good: as Wirth's Law states, software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster. :)

[@AllAmericanGuyExpert]

I'm here from 2041 and it's still in my recommended. It hit 4 billions views back in the 2030s as the millennials and Gen-Xers aged.

[@doooofus]

@@thromboid i thought they called that "andy and bills law" or "grove and gates law", as in "that which andy grove (ceo of intel at the time) giveth, bill gates (you already know this guy no doubt) taketh away"

[@Ivander_K]

the legend: still alive the computer: still alive too

[@smart_bar]

That's amazing!!!

[@MoistSquirrel38]

Theory: they are bonded together. When one dies, so does the other.

[@FyberOptic]

The 286 actually starts in real mode, because it has no way to return from protected mode internally. That's why a convoluted method of using the keyboard controller was created to entirely reset the processor to switch back to real mode.

[@michaelkreitzer1369]

I came here to say the same thing. Exiting protected mode is a hilarious and total hack bolted on to the hardware after the chip was done, bit the later developed triple fault method that can also work on a 386 is just beautiful! :)

[@foobar-9k]

For those wanting to know more about this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A20_line

[@Programmdude]

@@michaelkreitzer1369 I thought the ROM switched it into protected mode, then changed it back to real mode. Not sure about these old computers, but I think that's how modern ones worked. I was looking for open source BIOS ROMs, and all I could find used protected mode.

[@techgeeknzl]

@@Programmdude you're not actually wrong. The BIOS would need to switch into protected mode to count and test the RAM. Then back into real mode to start the operating system, then Himem loads and switches to and from protected mode to do another memory test. My brain hurts just thinking of the number of times the 80286 processor gets reset during the runtime of a typical application that uses XMS to expand its data caching (which is the only thing a real mode program can use it for -- the XMS driver gets given a buffer in conventional memory to copy to/from extended memory).

[@AstonGryffynn]

Tandy to M1: I’m not challenging you to surpass me. Match me.

[@thetechconspiracy2]

I know lightweight Linux distros can boot pretty quick on a PC, I kind of want to know how quickly a base Arch install can boot up on the M1 running off the internal SSD. Probably still can't top this due to the overhead of the EFI and modern bootstrap procedures taking much more time than executing some instructions off a ROM chip. I'd test, but I don't really feel like backing up my entire system, nuking the drive, and then trying to get a 1TB image back on the system, with the best option available to help being a 2006 iMac (so no using Target Disk Mode to "flash" the machine over Thunderbolt).

[@usodarou]

so my base gentoo install with dwm, boots like basically instantly, especially with msi fastboot

[@starletscarlet]

@@thetechconspiracy2 It doesn't use EFI, it uses something more like the iOS bootloader.

[@ikannunaplays]

@@tarstarkusz I take you're not running windows

[@ikannunaplays]

@@Nighterlev But not that long without updates, my system is stable af but updates are every week and always reboots the system

[@irtbmtind89]

Even by modern standards the board layouts are super clean and there's really not a lot of stuff in there. It's clear they were designed for easy manufacturing. My first computer was a government surplus Dell in the 90s and it was a rats nest inside compared to this.

[@atomicradiotheater]

Tandy was something else in the computer space 🚀

[@michealpersicko9531]

@@atomicradiotheater YEah and now its reborn into a zombie brand selling cheap no name accessories

[@FluxCondenser]

Perhaps the uptick has to do with Apple’s recent keynote and release of the new M1 Macs? I imagine it led to a number of searches from those wanting to see benchmarks comparing the M1 Macs to PCs. The “fastest” and “PC” in your title may have got mixed up in that. Then again, that seems like a bit of a stretch, but it’s the only thing I can think of that coincident.

[@juanignacioaschura9437]

Believe me it is quite feasible. Almost no one uses inverted commas when searching, leading to the search algorithm responding with all results containing those searched words.

[@user-vn7ce5ig1z]

@@tarstarkusz > Retro-computing is gaining in popularity Greeeaaat, so prices will skyrocket. ¬_¬👍

[@pyro226]

But low, hype, sell high. Standard pump and dump of old coins, art, and now video games.

[@Number1FanProductions]

@@juanignacioaschura9437 why didn’t you say quotation marks

[@juanignacioaschura9437]

@@Number1FanProductions Because I speak British English, NOT American English.

[@IVR02]

I *did* get the original "fastest booting PC" video in my recommendations recently, but I figured it was just because I've been subscribed to you for a few months now and the algorithm was just pulling random videos from your catalog and recommending them to me. Happens all the time with other KZbinrs I watch frequently. But as for why non-subscribers are getting it in their recommendations... like you said, the algorithm works in mysterious ways.

[@archivushka]

Same

[@d3fault1420]

same

[@pxelguyplays]

I haven’t been subscribed, I got it in home recommendations. I watched a lot of M1 Pro and M1 Max speed comparisons, and those are recommended to me all the time. I think the algorithm thinks it’s the same topic. BUT! Good catchy title, not long, dragged out length and the x years ago made me watch it. I was curious what the hell will that be. Now i watched this one as it’s always fascinating to watch the reaction and explaining these channels do after one of their very old video skyrocketed. 😀

[@EmJeRo14]

I got this in my home recommendations and my recent history is all about piano reviews and comparisons so yeah... The youtube algorithm works in mysterious ways..

[@sleepingcattv]

That thunder in the background just adds that bit of "you're sitting in front of your PC on a rainy day" ambiance, I love it!

[@Null--]

This reminds me of the terror of getting a new HDD - "BIOS: Tell me the tale of how many sectors, heads, cylinders and tracks it has, if you please".

[@smstnitc]

I totally forget about that! Thanks for the flashbacks 😂

[@Madness832]

And all these years later, we still love ya!

[@KeksimusMaximus]

Ghey

[@reanimationxp]

@@KeksimusMaximus your mom gay

[@KeksimusMaximus]

@@reanimationxp nah

[@impolitedirector3595]

@@reanimationxp no u

[@calumTOcookie]

Anyone got the name of the song in the slo-mo section? 6:25 Didn't see anyone asking about it so I thought I would. :)

[@XelanaterEllevanox]

Paul Hardcastle - Don't Let It Get You Down [Jazzmasters III]

[@Aranimda]

Meanwhile, my UEFI just sits 30 seconds initializing hardware before even trying to boot from SSD.

[@TheNiteNinja19]

I found that I had a USB hub that was causing unnecessary USB initialization times. Didn't click until I put it away because I didn't need it anymore. Weird Amazon basics crap I guess.

[@ZX3000GT1]

@@TheNiteNinja19 USB things like flash drives and stuff tend to slow down boot process. My laptop can boot in roughly 5-10 seconds, but it slows down when a flash drive is connected.

[@lesrogers7310]

Any additional HDDs you have installed will also slow down boot times.

[@Michael18751]

Do you have fast boot turned off?

[@WildDiamond07]

Any PC with an SSD: Piece of cake! Nobody's as fast as me, and that old thing's likely gonna take forever to boot up! Tandy 1000RL: Hold my floppy disks, kid.

[@bf0189]

I kinda digged the thunderstorm in the end! Retro computers and rain go together well just make sure to have surge protection so you don't zap invaluable historical pieces!

[@TechGorilla1987]

When I did tech support for a national internet company, you could almost predict the calls for the day by looking at the 24 hour radar map. You can bet that you will tell 3-5 people that their modem is - in fact - dead. They ALWAYS unplugged the power connection in a storm, but NEVER the phone line. It always bit them.

[@ingvers1436]

@@TechGorilla1987 We have learned to unplug phone line before thunderstorm in the hard way... Years before when modem was fired. Even tv decoder had lan port fired once

[@axelprino]

@@TechGorilla1987 yep, I had a modem that died that way. The thing had protection so I thought it would be fine, didn't took the phone line into account tho.

[@rustymixer2886]

Neo...wake up

[@justins8802]

I love how this clearly demonstrates a tiny microcosm of the larger trend that boot time (almost) always increases as PCs increase their capabilities.

[@Stierguy1]

Hardware doesn't improve so you can run better software. It improves so that engineers can get away making worse software.

[@Santor-]

@@Stierguy1 one of my longtime aggrevations for sure.

[@robertromero8692]

I solved lagging boot time by installing an NVME card in my PC.

[@robertsteel3563]

The algorithm works in mysteriously magical ways!

[@xxsegaxx]

I literally watched this video today and just got recommended this,the algorithm *K N O W S*

[@CommodoreFan64]

That it does, and I knew I had watched the OG video when it originally released.

[@greatquux]

Yep I got recommended the original video just yesterday. Both were fun and educational!

[@thisismyreply6299]

I actually got this in my recommended

[@alexanderbohlen5923]

I think youtube moderators watch random video then if they like it they send it to us recommendation

[@That1Carson]

I hate that so few people who came to the previous video failed to click the link and watch this newer, even more educational video.

[@KeksimusMaximus]

Evening thunder, rain and old computers... Heck, that's cozy!

[@MegaManNeo]

Respect for keeping the channel alive and running for that long. Also, the form factor of those machines is beautiful when paired with a appropriate monitor.

[@TechNoPhobiaGirl]

Awesome work, AS ALWAYS! I remember (like it was yesterday!) how EXCITING it was to take my PC into the PC shop around the corner and have it upgraded from a 286 to a 386! Watching this vid brought back sooooo many memories! Thk u! Those were the EXCITING, 'good ol' days' of computing, lemme tell you! Holy cow ... HOW THE HECK to you KNOW SO MUCH about the specs, etc. of these PCs?! I've thought for years and YEARS that Windows SHOULD be booted from a ROM so that it boots up almost instantaneously, like this Tandy. Of course, the computer 'industry' never did that, for WHATEVER reason.

[@ZX3000GT1]

There's one simple reason - it would be hard to both update and upgrade Windows if it's installed to ROM. If anything, it's better to have tiny Linux installed to ROM instead of Windows. I believe ASUS did something similar to Tandy's DeskMate with some of their older Eee PC Netbooks (forgot what was it called though).

[@Doofindork]

I was suggested the world's fastest booting PC today, and I thought I had stumbled over a cool new retro tech youtuber I haven't watched before. But then I realized, I have indeed watched your videos before! I found you through your "The Claw" video which was very entertaining. Here's to many more in the future!

[@8_Bit]

Some C64 fast load cartridges or ROM replacements skip the (invisible) RAM test so it does boot in under half a second. But maybe that's cheating :)

[@estebanvillalobos2303]

hey, it's robin! from 8-bit show and tell!

[@Gameboygenius]

@@estebanvillalobos2303 I read the first sentence in his voice.

[@GeckonCZ]

C64 isn't even a PC (let alone IBM PC-compatible), it's a "home computer" :)

[@8_Bit]

@@GeckonCZ The C64 certainly isn't IBM PC-compatible, but it says "Personal Computer" right on it! Look at 1:10 in this video.

[@GeckonCZ]

@@8_Bit Yeah I'm aware... that's marketing for ya. Hardware and software-wise it fits into the "home computer" category rather than the "personal computer" one.

[@DrowningInTea]

I really like the way you talk and how you explain the background behind these PCs. Also thumbs up for subtitles.

[@babyboomertwerkteam]

The strangest thing about the annoying high pitch CRT whine, is that I never noticed it when I was a kid and I grew up around CRTs, but now I do notice it.

[@igorszamaszow171]

That's really weird, usually it's the other way around

[@miroslavparvanov]

So much beauty in just 10 minutes video. Thank you for sharing it with us!

[@Jose_Pointero]

Hahah, interesting results. A while back, I was trying to recreate the Tandy 1000SX setup I had as a kid, did some research and realized the RL was the last true iteration of the 1000 series but in the form factor of a medium size pizza box. No brainer for me, I tracked down an RL and got it pretty cheap. But shortly after, the PSU died on it. Anyone know someone who can fix the PSU?

[@maidpretty]

Check the caps, it's easy to fix yourself.

[@Jose_Pointero]

@@maidpretty I have sort of a 50/50 success rate when trying to fix stuff myself, but at this point I'm about to try it.

[@Nuclearnadalah]

@@Jose_Pointero i mean it's broken already.

[@JoelPeltonen]

@@Nuclearnadalah there's broken and there's *broken*...

[@dedamarsovac]

I design power supplies. I can fix them as well ofc. :D Though I am in Croatia, so I 'm not sure if shipping back and forth would make sense.

[@WillEWillNet]

I saw both videos for the first time today. Thank you.

[@cjmarsh504]

I miss that high pitched whine from the crt

[@woldemunster9244]

Tinnitus also helps.

[@cjmarsh504]

@@woldemunster9244 nah, I'm just old school

[@CTSFanSam]

I am too old how to hear something of that high frequency.

[@cjmarsh504]

@@CTSFanSam I'm young, and I still hear it.

[@average0-2er]

thank you for keeping the high pitched whine throughout the whole video, really adds to the mood...

[@SmoothEmJay]

The thunder storm outside is incredibly well timed, the final crash of thunder that you kept in before fading out! love it. It's like the PC is saying "yes, I'm still a God of speed."

[@spacekitt.n]

im glad i was suggested the original video, because then i found your channel. great content!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Zeldon567]

Anyone else find the *bzt* *eeeeee* sound of a CRT monitor nostalgic? I actually like the high pitch noise. Both because of nostalgia and because it confirms my hearing is still very good lol.

[@eekee6034]

I love-hate it. :) It evokes nostalgia, but also memories of how much it could get to me on a bad day. ;)

[@ajapanexplorer7417]

I can't hear it and i'm wearing headphones.

[@eekee6034]

@@ajapanexplorer7417 It'll depend on your headphones and your ears. I'm thankful I actually can't hear it in the video. I just remember it. I'm using semi-cheap headphones with a warm tone; not too much treble. I used to have Sennheiser 590D 'phones; I could hear *everything* in those.

[@steamkaptain9234]

The high-pitched noise almost sounds like if your peripheral vision was turned into a noise. It almost sounds like tinnitus.

[@jovankabroz6858]

The fact that this computer, which was released in 1990, still boots up faster than most computers today.

[@MrPlytiger]

Its probably because everyone is searching for how fast Windows 11 boots compared to windows 10 and and older operating systems.

[@epicoddgamer2900]

You are onto something

[@MrPlytiger]

@@tarstarkusz probably best to avoid it for a year or two until its tested by everyone.

[@subhradipbanerjee3226]

Aside from this wonderful comparison demonstrated by a guy who loves computers from heart and not because its trendy or flashy to showff, is that youtube was created 16 years ago and this guy still delivers video which was why youtube was created. In todays date where flashy and trendy stuff owned by rich guys and just by demonstrating them, they entitle themselves as content creator. Always looking for a way to monetize and earn more. Where earning is primary, connecting with people and content quality is secondary. I not sure about others, but I am really grateful and thankful to the guy in the video for giving the people some sheer quality youtube content. Also a big salute and congratulations to TANDY 1000 RL, as it is still the reining worlds fastest booting pc.

[@umblapag]

The sound of thunder adds a nice touch, imo.

[@supernenechi]

Of course this video won't do as well, but still incredible! So happy for you. If you ever wanted to start up a KZbin channel, this is your chance!

[@jeremypilot1015]

I'm 45 and the sounds and verbose boot just bring me back to the day! It's like seeing a mint '94 Pontiac Grand Prix rolling down the street. Love it!

[@SeamusCameron]

The algorithm brought me to the last video, but the link brought me to the follow up. Fun and informative video, thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@TheSulross]

the champ just keeps vanquishing upstart challengers - oh, and glad to see the Commodore 64 and its fanboys handed a plate of humble pie

[@tyler5888]

Plus I don't think you can consider the commodore a "PC" since it isn't running an x86 cpu or some sort of DOS

[@TheSulross]

Tyler Nah, nah - perfectly fair competition - both were personal computers aimed primarily at home users first and foremost, and both were just booting the software they had in ROM and then landing at an interactive prompt. And then that Tandy could go and run Lotus 123 to really rub some salt on the wound - a home computer that could run legit biz software and not just toy imitations. Yeah, humble pie is even less appetizing when its served cold, hee, hee, hee. :-)

[@vyor8837]

@@TheSulross or you use a fastboot rom on the c64 and it boots in a half second

[@Tetzauh]

This is like "walking with dinosaurs" with computers. Good memories tough.

[@dovesr0478]

Banger video. I got unreasonably hype waiting for the race to start. Great explanations too. I think the Tandy's title will be secure for a long time to come. Even booting from a Gen 4 SSD with a top of the line modern CPU and fast boot enabled isn't anywhere close to 2.2 seconds. I have seen some systems wake from sleep almost instantly, but that's obviously not as impressive.

[@ProteinHammer]

Damn man happy the algorithm did something good. You been putting out videos since that first boot up video lol. Legend man!

[@ando8262]

that c64 boot argument had me choking on my nuggies

[@GORF_EMPIRE]

Commodore fan boys 🤦

[@vyor8837]

Testing from a monitor that was off and, well... That tends to make things go slower

[@The.dudeinator]

Good idea putting a link to this in the last one lol, that’s why I’m here

[@robbo5life]

That video also got recommended to me the other day too despite being subbed to you for years!

[@funkmon]

Same!

[@steveftoth]

Yt have this to me in my recs and I must say, good job. This video is awesome

[@pixelguy2231]

guys like that who make sucess after 10 years are true legends

[@coolwei1427]

Meet you guys at 10 year later when this was recommend to everyone

[@Octamed]

That's the good thing about retro computer videos. They never go out of date and only become better!

[@vonBlankenburgLP]

The KZbin starting page brought me here. Very interesting content. Subbed!

[@vwestlife]

Thanks!

[@morganrussman]

For people complaining about the CRT whine, although I can hear certain high pitched whines that most can't anymore, I can't hear the CRT whine, even in real life, standing right next to the set itself. And I'm currently (10/2021) 25.

[@fanciestbanana4653]

The noise is there, and it provokes tinnitus for me long after I stopped watching the video. I'm 27, and can hear mosquito devices as well.

[@morganrussman]

@@fanciestbanana4653 I wouldn't doubt that the whine is there, but, I just can't hear it over the video.

[@arrestedeffort]

This is even more interesting than the original video! You've definitely made a subscriber of me.

[@Megatog615]

I was not expecting the motherboard to be that small.

[@loopdubstep]

This guy makes me feel in 2011 KZbin. So nostalgic!!

[@yakacm]

When life sends you lemons make lemonade, when life sends you a cash cow, milk it, lol.

[@ClydeDoSomething]

love the old keyboards. a thing of beauty.

[@zkdr6278]

My favorite type of video on this site has always been those in this style - watching a vwestlife or a druaga1 video has a different feeling than an 8 bit guy or LGR video. Just want to personally thank you for staying true to this DIY, classic style that I've grown to love.

[@LordXelous]

I got here from the algorithm bringing me to the video you're on about too :D.... (Sniff)... smells like vintage

[@yorgle]

Every system should have a minimal booting system in ROM.

[@fischX]

@John, "dere" wilkinson UEFI sucks also it takes significantly longer to initiate

[@CnCDune]

@John, "dere" wilkinson Can UEFI be used to look into a connected drive's contents like DOS can do?

[@thagomizer9514]

@@CnCDune Yes, it can.

[@CnCDune]

@@thagomizer9514 Odd; it's not possible on my end.

[@Architector_4]

@@CnCDune That's how UEFI booting works in the first place to my knowledge - any correct UEFI implementation supports FAT32 at least, and needs to do so to look into the EFI partition to get to the BOOT.EFI file, which is the bootloader, to run it and get to your OS of choice Your UEFI BIOS should have a EFI shell you can get to, or at least a "boot from file" button in the "change boot device" setting.

[@pzgamerch]

I never search anything about old PC or computer in general but I still got recommended. KZbin is literally give us random video at this point.

[@futurepastnow]

Your previous video on the RL did appear in my recommendations (and I did watch it) but since I'm already a subscriber I didn't give any thought to how. The algorithm is a fickle beast, it gives and it takes.

[@qbertguy]

I've been a subscriber of yours for years, and that video showed up in my recommended and of course I watched it again

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

Now I'm sitting here wondering how fast those _really_ old Toshiba "portables" with DOS in ROM were in comparison to these

[@mattm3023]

The follow-up video I didnt know I wanted. Thanks, that was great

[@TechMaxWare]

After 10 years, do you still have your small FM radio broadcast going?

[@vwestlife]

Yes.

[@grimreboot]

Thanks for the upload! :)

[@planes124]

Love these videos makes me want to hug a old pc. I always love the older computers and CRTS

[@fragalot]

Excellent follow up. Yes your older video just popped up on the main page for me. I am a tech enthusiast so that's the only reason why it could have appeared, there was no news in the tech industry about fast boot times, just fast computers with Intel releasing their 12gen CPUs.

[@andrewmystery23]

Hey vwestlife, tried looking up the first song in the video with no luck. Could you share where to find it? Sounds interesting. Thanks.

[@CommodoreFan64]

If you are talking about the one he recorded onto the Tandy, then it's Slugbug - Computers Again kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYrahKhqmdeCpJI It's one of his favorite artist to use on the channel because they don't DMCA match, or do baseless copyright claims over fair use.

[@thenewbgamer6416]

I barely today got the old video recommended to me, and now just noticed your new video.

[@Narayan_1996]

Man, I just saw that older video of yours, I even saved to watch it later, and now you upload this one, as great as the previous one from 10 years ago. You're always surprising me, and yes, I do watch A LOT your older videos, they're so great that I must watch them again ^^ ❤❤❤

[@hrayz]

I watched the older video too. Then went to the channel, sorted by Oldest, and started binging older videos.

[@Narayan_1996]

@@hrayz It is always fun to do this, since you may be surprised by some video you've never heard about and have a lot of fun and knowledge at the same time 😁

[@Michael18751]

Same here! I need to binge this channel again soon!

[@robin.mp4]

This is the best follow-up video to a video I have never seen before. Nice one

[@AndroidSunner]

For what it’s worth, I found your channel many years ago via your old Dead Shopping Center video, so it wouldn’t have been my first rodeo with recommendations

[@SirQuacksalotthe1st]

Funny I got suggested this video after my dad was telling me about the old IBM pcs he used to work on loved it great video keep it up

[@styloroc2000]

I noticed a bunch of 8+ year videos being recommended to me by KZbin the past few days, from both channels I subscribe to and ones that I do not. And it's across the spectrum of my interests, from cat videos to subatomic physics.

[@williamberry4597]

Ok, I watched the first video and then this one. I'm going to subscribe. Love content like this.

[@Jimster481]

Saw the original one after being recommended it the other day just as you mentioned. Now I saw this video linked in the description of the old one and watched this one. Kind of funny that the worlds fastest computer is AMD powered :P

[@eekee6034]

KZbin is recommending me a Linus Tech Tips video titled, "The fastest gaming PC is now AMD!" XD

[@sergeantbilko7070]

With what could have been a very boring video you made it very interesting with your knowledge of the old PC's. Thank you.

[@AMDRADEONRUBY]

Nice a new "night" video surprise from the best KZbinr!

[@OmegaWolf]

it's cool to see old computer still working

[@vintagespirit]

Yes i saw it yesterday too, it was on my recommendation list!

[@brick6347]

Ditto

[@zachcreighton954]

I’ll see you all in about 10 years when this video gets recommended to everyone

[@AmoralTom]

I woke up at 5:30am to eat some cheese and I am happy to see an upload from vwestlife

[@AtomicOverdrive]

I had a Tandy 1000HX and then upgraded to a Tandy 1000 TL2.. Loved my systems..

[@KulaGGin]

1:50 With all due respect, it takes that commodore 64 3.3 seconds only because it takes the screen itself 3.3 seconds to turn on. If they had the screen already turned on like you did, how long it would actually take commodore to boot up?

[@danieljones9937]

My thought exactly.

[@Markfromthe80s]

Thx for the video. Might not be a popular opinion, but I love the looks of these machines, especially the RL. The monitor fits the case so nicely.

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

nice, love those boot times. It goes "pop" "pop" and done. If we only got the same boot on out modern computers.. Our modern computers feels alot like slow wagons compared to the snappy boot these computers have.

[@GigsTaggart]

it got worse in the middle. win95 on a pentium 60 was terrible. since ssd and parallel boot sequences we have gotten faster again

[@lokelaufeyson9931]

@@GigsTaggart yhe major issue with the boot speed was the cost, it was when you used a rom chip but a upgrade would be expensive. Imagine send out a couple of 100k chips to customers.. Im not roasting the new systems (unless we talk about the later windows versions) but there is parts that was great with the older systems. I have games that look and feel faster than the new and fancy need for speed for example.

[@GigsTaggart]

@@lokelaufeyson9931 the code is way inefficient now. 60GB for a game. I know it's mostly assets but the code gets bloated too.

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

@@GigsTaggart fact.

[@Programmdude]

@@GigsTaggart It makes developer time quicker. You can make smaller executables, but halving the executable time and doubling the work involved is a bad tradeoff. Programmers are expensive, storage & network is cheap. 100MB+ executables are almost certainly due to c++ templates (or embedded resources), but that feature simplifies code, which results in less bugs and faster work. AAA games are also MUCH more complicated (in technology, not mechanics) than those of a decade or two ago, which also adds to the code size.

[@ryansease7066]

Cool video. Gotta love the old Tandy 1000 machines.

[@bluetech7753]

Yes I do remember that PC very well back in the days however had one in my house . However a friend of mine had one back in those days and I used to also mess around with them at my local radio shack store. Yes that was definitely fast booting. I can honestly say most older interfaces like Desk. Mate we're actual user interfaces that I liked compared to today's fancy Windows fancy macos those low on graphics didn't really bother me put it to you this way if they're not operating system with those graphics today but yet with the speed of today's CPUs I would probably choose that computer over any fancy Windows PC that they make today.

[@VideoGameSmash12]

While I am a fan of the UI designs they had in 2009/2010 (with Windows 7's beautiful glossy design), I completely agree that a computer with the speed we have today that gets up and going like these old titans would be insane.

[@dougbrowning82]

@@VideoGameSmash12 Has anyone tried loading old versions of DOS on a modern PC?

[@starletscarlet]

@@dougbrowning82 LGR did that - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIScmZyJrLFkgbs

[@recklssabndon]

I spent years fighting to get my desktop to recognize a 5.25in floppy drive and the 3.5in drive - I seriously searched for years for workarounds that didn’t require using virtualbox - something I could use to allow my 32 bit or 64 bit computer to run 16bit or 8bit type hardware components seamlessly. Editing system files, painstakingly getting different adapters and chipsets… all of that went on for years. Then out of nowhere I discovered your channel today based on a recommendation from the KZbin algorithm - I was laughing about this because after I watched that initial video (which was a totally random video to recommend to me by KZbin but nonetheless interesting take on how calculators are assembled like crap using fake parts) the very next videos I was recommended were your video about getting the Tandy to work with your laptops and RLX desktop and the video you’re referring to in this one. I find it so strange how I looked for this exact channel for years and couldn’t find it - then one day the KZbin algorithm finally noticed and looped me in

[@recklssabndon]

Spoiler alert: I still haven’t gotten that 5.25” internal drive to work with that computer. I cannibalized the case and internal 3.5” floppy drive/chipsets from my old Compaq Pressario tower once it literally had a meltdown with the HDD. I kept all the working parts. Put in a modern PC with an Intel i7 chipset and 32gb DDR3, got the proper adapters for data and power to make the 3.5in drive function - the power was actually super easy. The data from SATA3 on the MB to the floppy drive was the worst part. I basically had to get these adapters that had onboard chips and drivers and hook those into some really old B port adapters I had from 20 years ago and then daisy chain it all but at least it works. I could never get the other one to work. Not sure if it’s the drive itself or what the issue is. I kept the original CD/DVD optical drive from the case but the case had a dummy drive lid under that where there is room for a second 5.25” drive to go in that drive bay. The lid (aesthetically) looks uniform from outside but the switch to open it does function surprisingly well. Wish I knew why it wasn’t working. I have so many old disks with book reports and games from my childhood that I want to go through

[@haramaschabrasir8662]

The KZbin algorithm is weird on purpose. KZbin doesn't want people to know how it works so that it can't be exploited. That's why it's randomized to some degree.

[@GigsTaggart]

But they could tune it to spread the love more. Why are videos either nothing or superviral? There's probably plenty of channels I don't know about but would like.

[@RidinWithMyLocsOn]

Nice! Had the same monitor as the right one, pretty cool to see it again!

[@TheJourneyAhead]

I wonder why todays computer still have to load the basic system (Kernel, drivers, ...) from a slow SSD. Flash memory is compared to ROM still extremly slow. But Operatingsystems are these days only big bloatware with packed functions and features nobody uses.

[@imyourdad6690]

are you trolling. the amount of things your current computer is doing before boot up put this old tech machines to shame.

[@msdosm4nfred]

Very interesting, even for a guy like me, which didn't know about these Tandy 1000 series, because here in Germany were these pc series probably unknown and here in the GDR were PC compatibles widely unknown. the only known x86 IBM compatible computer, which was not sold to any private person was the Robotron EC1834, which was more meant to be exported to the soviet union, so you'll need to read it as ES1834, because the 'EC' are kyrillic letters. Only a few of that machines had survived the downfall of the GDR on some offices, which it makes very valuable and rare on eBay. But these didn't boot that fast, they're were more comparable to the IBM PC/XT and they were fully compatible on software level, not on the hardware, because the expansion slots were only electrically compatible, not on the mechanical level except on only one slot, this was an 8-bit ISA slot, the rest were proprietary. Even a kit computer from the GDR with only calculator keys for input and some numeric displays for output of values didn't boot as fast as your Tandy 1000 RL! FASTER! HARDER! TANDY! ;)