Stink Bug Start Tutorial - Wingfoiling

This is the way I start a mid sized wingboard that is too big to sinker start and too big to sinker start. #wingfoiling #waterstart #tutorial
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0:00 - Intro
00:56 No wing demonstration
03:21 Demonstration with wing
04:33 On the water demo

[@wesgoulding9244]

I’m on a 110liter normally. Yesterday I tried a 75 liter. I’m 85 kg. It was a major struggle to get going on this board!! Fortunately I had already watched your video 3x in preparation for this day! Your method was the only thing that worked. Thank you brother!!

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Don’t look back. Haha

[@dcharlton07]

Finally!!!! An explanation of Stinkbug that makes sense!!! Thank you for this, I can't wait to try it out.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Haha. I tried to cover all the bases. There’s always more nuance, but you’ll figure it out when you get out there and try it!

[@ribrideuk]

I was getting nowhere with my new 60l (I'm 76kg). Really frustrated, tried every technique in the book but nothing was working. Tried this today -amazing. Worked every time. Massive thanks, you have saved me an enormous amount of frustration.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Awesome! Small boards are so much fun.

[@shen7256]

Excellent example of how this works. Good effort mate!

[@stoker20]

The best trick I've seen so far. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Hope it helps!

[@stoker20]

@@wingmanfoilclub Finally pulling the trigger here in the Gorge. Doing it wrong is a huge waste of time and energy for old men.

[@abdonvandaele6559]

Great tips, thanks!

[@559danh]

Can’t wait to try this method

[@Tobeon2]

Thank you!!

[@boazila]

Nice! Thanks for the tips on the beach Rob.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

For sure. Any time.

[@r55551]

Awesome helpful video. Used it today for my 80L custom.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Awesome. Glad it helped!

[@wsurfn]

Awesome tutorial. Very Clear. Thank you.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

You’re welcome

[@sabyx5]

Awesome , will try it . Thks!

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Good luck! Knee pads help when learning or schlogging a lot

[@hisurf4688]

Thank you for the great video, haven’t winged yet. Very clear and informative. Makes sense of the full volume board vs lower volume like you have, and obviously the sinker. Going to Oregon next month and will try to get to the gorge for crack at it. I just SUP surf foil. I like that a lot😃🤙🏽

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Hope you have a good trip and that they have a nice beginner spot that isn’t too crazy!

[@flyingfootage]

Awesome , it’s very usable. Thanks mate. 👍🏄🏼‍♂️

[@wingmanfoilclub]

You’re welcome

[@davidhughes7888]

Great vid man thanks.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

For sure!

[@aschwa5]

Who is this wingman? Where do I find a wingman like this? Brilliant advice, helped me get on my 50l sinker!!

[@wingmanfoilclub]

“You can be my wingman anytime.” -Iceman

[@fathomfathom]

Tried it today instead of my regular Stinkbug start and it works great esp for board that sinks or have tails that sink like my GoFoils 60L. One big advantage is when the wind drop or going to the wind line, you can just stay prone and it get you moving across the wind without having to spend any energy.

[@surfertbone4333]

Great video, very informative. I reckon you have the perfect board. As far as wing boards, a way to find the number of liters for a pro level wing board; divide the number of your weight by 2.2 and then subtract 20 from that number.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Interesting. Haven’t heard that one yet. But yeah board is for sale. Cheap. I’m going smaller. :)

[@robadair]

I assume you mean divide your weigh IN POUNDS by 2.2 and subtract 20? Otherwise, using kg gives ridiculously low numbers. Why not just say take your weight in kg and subtract 20?

[@ricopo3522]

@Wingman Hey R. appreciate the tips on the beach when I got out and pointing me to this vid! Can't wait to get back on the water and try this out in chop on my new, much shorter 4-10 board. Thanks brother! ~R.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Hope it helps!

[@ricopo3522]

@@wingmanfoilclub me too! New board in flatwater was surprisingly easy and absolutely love the performance of the short board riding. I was managing to get going my first day in chop, but it felt pretty marginal floundering about. Pretty much know standard knee start wouldn't work when nuking. Too bad no wind today- I want to get this sorted.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

@@ricopo3522 looking like Thursday will be the good day now.

[@ericcohn3225]

Tried this yesterday--absolute game changer compared to trying to get wing overhead from kneeling position. I'd say 1/5th the energy expenditure and quadruple the success rate. I'm 6'3" and 81 kg. This is what will help me get onto a 75L from my 90L. Thanks so much.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Awesome! Glad it worked for you.

[@BigDawgzWingFoilReviews]

always like to see tips for bigger riders on low volume boards. Stepping down from 105L to 75L

[@wingmanfoilclub]

You’re gonna love it

[@ben3989]

I’m going to try this with my 90l this weekend (I’m 84kg). Great video.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

You will succeed!

[@t7639]

Very well done video. I just dropped 30 L of board size recently , and the first time out I had my ass handed to me. Cant wait for more wind to try this technique !

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Hope it helps!

[@madeyemoodey9633]

Nice meeting you the other day at Piru. Good tips in this vid. Share the stoke.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

You too. It’s nuking today!

[@madeyemoodey9633]

@@wingmanfoilclub Can’t make it today and I need to buy a 4m.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

@@madeyemoodey9633 Too bad. It was good, but I hit it for you. Check my insta for some footage. Coulda borrowed my 4!

[@lawrencebaum5539]

I just bought a larger board- wish I would have seen this first- 150 lbs with 70L board… nice Houston Kiteboarding sand bag!! #houstonkiteboarding

[@wingmanfoilclub]

70L is still a nice size. And if you ever do decide to sell it, lots of people are in the market for that size right now

[@raghuram2815]

Hi, seems like you were on Lake Piru. I am moving to Santa Clarita end of this year. And I had been thinking what would be a good spot for Winging. Castaic seems closest, but the Lower Lagoon is too small, and Upper Lagoon is not allowed during weekends for Wind Sports (i called up and checked with them). Lake Piru seems the next closest, but I had been reading that board activities were banned at the lake after the Naya Rivera incident. Is that not so? Is the Lake open all week and all seasons for recreational board sports? Also, how suitable would you say Lake Piru is for learning to Wing Foil (in terms of Wind Direction and all that). Your information will be greatly appreciated.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Access issues are ever evolving with wingfoiling being a new sport so I don't want to post on YT. Send me an email at [e-mail] and I will tell you the current situation. Let me know when you arrive in town as well and I will try to help you get familiar with the areas.

[@alvergez]

Thks great explanation. However how about when the wing has landed on the other side and you need to flip it first. I believe you need to be in the knee position to do the flip.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

No you can flip the wing in the water. Just move your hands to the wingtip and flip the wing from there while treading water. Otherwise you can sit on the board while straddling it. It’s not possible to balance on your knees on a small board.

[@imuahayn8082]

love the "stinkbug" name lol, I use same technique and found to be easiest for me, I'm 87KG and using 78 liter board, i like to stay on one knee with wing overhead until the wind starts planing the board then stand up

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Nice. Definitely a good option when there’s wind.

[@grahamreed8443]

Spread the gospel! I’m giving these same tips to everyone who will listen. I’m able to pull this with my 34L at 65kgs and a 2M in windy conditions (25+), 3m in 20-25mph. Below that I grab my 60L for now.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Smallest I’ve tried is 60L but glad to hear it works smaller. That’s what I suspected!

[@AkSeapilot]

I am in la ventana switching to 85 liter from 105, weight 191 to 200.. doing really well on it, but in big waves I find it pretty challenging to get back to standing position occasionally. You mentioned something about waves or no waves.. is this a good method to start working on in larger wind generated waves? I have only been out one day w this board so i think it might be just getting used to it.. but not sure.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

It’s harder in waves than flat water, but yes. On a small board this is absolutely one of the best ways to get going in waves. When you do it correctly, it’s really the wing and wind power getting you to your feet. So as long as there is wind you can start in any size waves. The only other option would be the straddle start, but it’s tough for us bigger riders and on wider boards. Edit to add: the first time trying the stink bug it might help to go out when the wind is lighter just to get a feel for it, but after 1 or 2 sessions you’ll never go back to the old method on a small board.

[@AkSeapilot]

@@wingmanfoilclub thanks so much, if i can be back up on the board quicker im going to have a much better time out there. plenty of wind.. i will let you know after a day or two how it goes..

[@wingmanfoilclub]

@@AkSeapilot yeah let me know. There will be times where you get tossed around but most of the time I can be back up and riding in literally seconds. Just take a deep breath and lay on the board for a few seconds if you’re struggling to relax before trying again.

[@Tobeon2]

My level is not to try a sinking board yet. (I still cannot tack 😞..) Hopefully, I am at the level where I can try this technique... Thank you..

[@wingmanfoilclub]

No need to tack for small board. Jibes and tacks on foil are easier on small board! I like mid size board (not true sinker) and this technique makes mid sized boards doable.

[@Tobeon2]

@@wingmanfoilclub By the way, if I were you, I would defriend (!?) the person who suggested you to start wing foiling with 75 liter board especially when you weigh 200 lbs!! 😂🤣

[@wingmanfoilclub]

@@Tobeon2 that would be tough since that person was ME! i would have bought a 60 if they had it! Glad I did it. Just wish this video had been around at the time. :)

[@Tobeon2]

@@wingmanfoilclub Wutt!?? 👀🙄😳.. I would call it a "Self hate" or at least a 'self abuse'!! 🤣😂😂... Well, that Slingshot in the clip is the board!?

[@wingmanfoilclub]

@@Tobeon2 yes. Good board. Mast track is a bit too far back compared to foot straps and center of balance. I am not on AXIS Froth 65 L. Awesome. Board. Fast, light, perfectly balanced, mast track in the right place for new style of foils. And looks good in photos

[@baebae7765]

So jacked

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Not working and winging every day is good for the soul. And body.

[@ericepstein3192]

If you have any interest in heading over to Maui post Kauai, let me know. Can hook ya up

[@wingmanfoilclub]

I might go to Oregon. But appreciate the offer

[@Anthony-ix3rp]

why is t called stinkbug ?

[@wingmanfoilclub]

I guess it reminded the person who named the move of a stink bug. I didn’t name it!

[@Nilz4FR]

Hurts to watch how you pull that wing over the rocks :(

[@wingmanfoilclub]

I mean, you can already see where I’ve repaired it after back flipping through it. Wings aren’t precious. They are made to be used. Cabrinhas are pretty tough, too.

[@lindz151074]

Probably need a wetsuit to save the knees 😀

[@wingmanfoilclub]

I wear thin knee pads under my wetsuit too

[@dezeustre]

"a mid sized wingboard that is too big to sinker start and too big to sinker start"?

[@wingmanfoilclub]

If a board is very small, you can start it underwater (with the sinker start). If a board is big, you can start it the “normal” way. But if a board is in the middle size it becomes very unstable to try and start but too big to sink underwater. For example if you are 90 kilos and the board is 75L. You will not be able to balance on the board because it will be very unstable as it tries to sink but bounces back up to the surface. That is when the stink bug start is very helpful.

[@wingmanfoilclub]

Also I say “too BIG to do a sinker start and too SMALL to do a regular start”