Stock FCX24 vs HEAVY FCX24! How weight can help your rig! Too much weight?

[@animalpix13]

Great info on weight and weight distribution. Been missing the weekly tests and reviews thank you for this one!!

[@sam-merc]

Great comparison vid and analysis. I just got the Treal brass outer portal covers for front & back, plus the brass inner covers for the front. Also have some weighted Treal wheels. Gonna have to do some testing to see if it’s too much weight. Thanks for all your work on the FCX24s 🤟🏼

[@mikemangiameli561]

Wish more people made rims like the stock one on the fcx 24 because they look more like what you would run on a real truck out on the rock's never seen a really fancy set of rims when you go to Moab

[@sandy3629]

dont think i’ve ever seem these on anything but tractors and farm trucks. all you see on the trails now are methods, kmc’s, and other “fancy wheels”

[@JUSTHAVEFUNRC]

There are plenty of steelie and slot mag style wheels in 1.0 sizes. What you wouldn’t see at Moab are tractor wheels and tires, or small sidewall wheels.

[@sandy3629]

@@JUSTHAVEFUNRC I agree, i like both

[@ynadworks8163]

Thank you for your research. I kinda went overboard with treal upgrades. Got them all but the balance is great with the battery upfront. Enough of power to pull without a problem. Lots of times it surprises me with what it can do. I do want to get more power since all is metal. Did you have to pull gear out before removing motor for your $6 mod?

[@jan-hg9vi]

Thanks. I think seeing this could save folks some money. Weight did help it crawl but sure didn't help the looks. You nailed it when you said weight can help but you can go to far.

[@trailwomanrc]

I like to start with free lowering center of gravity mods before adding weight. Reducing high weight by moving the heavier parts lower. This way you really optimize a little added weight.

[@2fmrc]

Yep! That’s what I do as well. Then you can just add a hint of weight where needed and be set!

[@julianivanrc6502]

Great video, very interesting how the weight affects

[@JP-qq2kn]

I wrap the metal ring in the beadlock wheel with thin wire solder n electrical tape. Got each front ring to be 18g each without the rest of the rim n tire..

[@FerociousSniper]

I bet putting oil in the shocks would help with performance. They both seem so bouncy. Especially that stock one.

[@allscalerc]

Great video. Thanks for going through all of the scenarios! New to your channel just subbed.

[@keldonator]

I'm probably gonna buy those cheap brass portal covers and file them down a bit to use with my injora steel rims if they don't fit... Thanks for sharing this. That will probably be the only brass I get.

[@keldonator]

Just an update, the portal covers worked with my -3.7 offset wheels without any modifications. They made a huge improvement. I now flip over a lot less and stick to rocks much better.

[@chaicracker]

Gotta comment again, thanks for making these elaborate comparisons. Cleared up the big question of the pro and contra of lot/less weight with stock and aftermarket tires. Where the low weight with better tires made the climb but not the full weight one. :) Especially the contrast when both trucks felt over and when not. Super interesting! Had the idea to put just as much weight as possible but that seems to be far from ideal :D. So from what I've seen here it looks like a low CG is beneficial for both front and back. Thanks :) EDIT: I wasn't concentrating on the video enough, you answered most questions :D

[@prob6999]

I love these test videos with the raw course test. I bet you would have made it two handed at 7:07. Anyway I can’t wait for the trx4m anymore I need it. I wonder how it will perform with weight

[@prob6999]

25:00 I think with the added weight if those tires were super soft they would just smooth crawl up that

[@2fmrc]

Yeah I’m sure the Trx4m will need some weight down low with the body it has but it should be pretty solid with the turning radius it’s supposed to have! Can’t wait to check one out!

[@chaicracker]

To be clear, the brass portal covers are only compatible to the stock tires because of the brass part size clipping into aftermarket tires?

[@2fmrc]

They’ll work with other wheels but you gotta be very selective on the wheels you choose. Don’t work with many. The brass rings that go inside the wheels I show here are only for the stock wheels.

[@chaicracker]

@@2fmrc Alright, thank you for the qualitifcation. :) Can you do a measurement of the of the big portal cover parts to use as guidance for future wheel purchases? :)

[@jerryhermann7233]

Well im glad i traded off my scx24. Nice truck but not my cup o tea. I enjoy my 1/10 th trucks emensly. Enjoy your trucks at any size guys.

[@theLyzhendricks]

I wanna do a brushless system on mine but I don't know of one that has a steup for 2 servos and thats small enough to go I the truck plus I don't have a comparable controler

[@allisuebaheza2838]

Hello I’m kinda new to channel but I’m trying to figure out how to balance the wieght better on my fcx24 I don’t just want to add wieght I want to balance so can climb and go down with out tipping

[@2fmrc]

You can definitely dial it in by driving it and testing out how it reacts with each mod. The body is the biggest issue with the weight on the fcx. The hard body causes it to nose a lot going downhill. Stretching it with some longer rear links can help a ton. Lowering the body a bit or losing the fenders etc can help shave weight. You can also get these scales that can give you a good idea where you sit and where you need weight. So you don’t have to add a ton. Just a little where needed. amzn.to/42Y9tfv

[@AwesomeEricD]

I got the yellow one (outta box) ... I run it in the snow and make it crawl everywhere ... This thing is a lotta fun, huh ? I may chage the tires for what you did on the blue one, tho ... Would not dig itself as easily

[@QuinnsRC]

Nice rundown. Man, that's a lot of weight. It really showed with how much bounce was taken out of the truck, which I liked. Would putting oil in the shocks on the lighter one make a difference? I'm about to add some weight to mine to see how it goes. Let's see a drag race between these two, LOL, to see how weight changes speed! Looks like tires are the big winner here.

[@travisnorrie1002]

Get yourself a tripod so you can use both hands. Hitting that course in high gear isn’t really what these are intended for

[@2fmrc]

Yeah the tripod shots get pretty boring though imo. Use it enough on the bench lol. High gear is needed for a lot of tough uphill lines. Definitely needed on a couple spots of the course with most trucks. Low don’t get it done so ya gotta go high gear!

[@Chriscovery]

Well there's the thing with the scale. It's like taking your Wrangler 4door with 40inch tires and every crawling gimmick to a rock bouncing park or Buggy Lane....it will look misplaced and end in carnage. Heavier wheels and good weight distribution with grippy tires and the FCX does great and still looks nice in scale. Looking for sheer performance, built a comp buggy, will also help with the driving aesthetics. Very nice comparison though!

[@andrewrichey7374]

I been running and testing my red power wagon with the Mud terrain M/T’s with the flubber stuffers V3’s And they are awesome

[@QuinnsRC]

Ooh, I saw CCxRC try out the flubbers, they looked like they worked really well.

[@kevinhart2827]

Hi can you recommend a 1.0 injora tire that will stretch on stock wheel. Many thanks

[@2fmrc]

I’ve successfully stretched the scrambler style Tires over the stock wheels. Most of the larger tires should work. The main issue is the foam. You may wanna trim the inner ring because stretching them sometimes causes them to break. amzn.to/3T96vAL

[@daig1984]

Hi mat will these fit the stamped steel with wheels flipped?

[@2fmrc]

I would think they should definitely fit with the hex flipped on those wheels.

[@troypostie1252]

450 to 460g is my target on most builds. Nice comparison Matt

[@2fmrc]

Nice! I always like to know what others find work the best.

[@troypostie1252]

@@2fmrc to be honest i just try steer clear of the 500g axle limit. Breakage comes thick and fast running 3s at 500+

[@albertogonzalezrodriguez7635]

Yo en mi coche aumente el largo de batalla de 138 milímetros a 150 milímetros,que es lo máximo que esta permitido en competicion en España. Lo siguiente que le montado llantas de laton completas,neumaticos injora multi comp 67 milímetros y por último contrapesos en los ejes tanto delantero y traseros. Pendiente sube 62 grados bajada 54 grados laterales 47 grados. Mi coche pesa ahora mismo 727 gramos y va muy bien,suelo utilizarlo en marcha corta no larga....la marcha larga para ir de una puerta del circuito a otra. Los neumaticos originales ni los utilice porque sabía que no tenía agarre.😅😅

[@mikerainey3847]

Good morning Matt, Hey I'm new into this and figured this little truck was a great beginner starting point. Been watching your vids for a couple of months now. I always hit the thumbs-up. 👍 Your content is always spot on. I have bought three of these little PWs and am having a blast modding them. My favorite truck so far is one I lightened up the cab and added weight to the front and rear with Treal parts. I also installed the Injora two stage 43mm shocks witch I like because they compress way down giving more articulation. I'm kind of having a hard time deciding on tire and wheel options. Could you give me your best two wheel and tire combinations for this truck with some weight added using Treal brass covers? Sincere thanks, Mike from Idaho.

[@2fmrc]

Hey! Really appreciate you watching and the thumbs up. More than you know! 🙏 I really like most of the Treal wheels on these rigs. Or the Hardpark crawlers wheels with the hex flipped. They have tons of wheel options and are a really good wheel that you can customize quite a bit. As far as tires the pin tires are great but some don’t like their looks. The little guy racing swamp kings are another big time performer. Both of those are larger tires but fit these trucks well. If I’m trying to go smaller than those tires I’d probably choose the powerhobby trail warriors. The treal brass portal covers are a great way to get a little extra weight and then I usually just try to lower the body etc to help bring the weight that’s up highest down as low as possible. Hope this helps! amzn.to/3Sdv4eD

[@mikerainey3847]

Sincere thanks!

[@andrewrichey7374]

I have the black brass heavyweight from Treal Outer portal box they are great

[@shockman8014]

I agree. Something in between. That looked like two gimps to me.

[@2fmrc]

Yeah from one extreme to the other lol. Kinda trying to show why it’s important to really balance one out and place weight where needed. Some people think if they just throw every brass part they find on one it’s gonna perform better.

[@shockman8014]

@@2fmrc Cape Crawlers latest video has a very nice demonstration of this too. He took a stock deadbolt and did a few modest mods and the thing is incredible.

[@texomarc]

The higher your weight is positioned, the more it will take to keep it planted but it will never handle like a light weight lcg build. Basically, weight depends on your body. Low 400’s for a shorty and mid 400’s for a g’iator is gonna be “the best” for what we run, mostly likely, once you get a big motor and servo. Small motor and an emax might keep you below 400, which has benefits but… TEXOMA STYLE BEHBEEEEE!!! Much love, brother!

[@2fmrc]

Yeah the main reason these things need weight low is the body up high for sure! That’s why I usually chop them and lower or swap to lexan because I’d prefer less weight overall but gotta offset what weight you do have up high for sure! I kinda like a good hard body 😆 but it comes with some disadvantages also.

[@texomarc]

@@2fmrc Hard bodies ain’t got no padding, if ya know what I mean. Need a little cushion for the pushin! Lol.

[@wakkogn9351]

Good video from a newb.

[@ronclements2002]

I’m trying to find that balance right now

[@andrewrichey7374]

Just me back watching again

[@andrewrichey7374]

Mostly just the front , Like you said just a hint of weight .

[@pooljunki1]

love my mofo supper ddp wheels can at weight where i want it down low and widen to my liking

[@goreyboggs]

Good Morning!

[@2fmrc]

Good morning!

[@evintacy7272]

Good morning !

[@2fmrc]

Good morning!!! Hope everyone is having a great weekend!

[@randall4411]

The bodies look a bit too large for the frame . The axles and transmission are the only good things .

[@2fmrc]

Yeah if you stretch them out they look much better but they are pretty large

[@patrickkerns2022]

this truck dosent perform well in any version ..pity it looks nice but performance is bad..thanks for the video

[@2fmrc]

The best thing you can do for performance on them is stretch the rear end. My father in law has one we stretched with some wheels and tires and he absolutely love it now!

[@jasonanderson7020]

nice video. im working on a 1/25 chevy body for my fcx24 right now. its really coming together. do you have an email? ill email you a picture when its done.? i think the biggest downfall to these trucks is the high center. also i emailed fms cuz i got the skipping gears going on in my portals, im assuming its because im short a few teeth. im waiting on there response, they wanted photos which i provided.