Stock Removal Knife Tutorial - Pt. 3 Heat Treating - Knife Making

[@Aleeknives]

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[@markmaloney5146]

Ive been a knife maker for twenty years here in the uk, and must say this is the best tutorial Ive seen for people starting out making they own blades 👍👍

[@Aleeknives]

Thank you sir! That means a lot! I am still learning g also!

[@stephencronin1080]

Any idea what steel here in Europe is equivalent to 1080 or 1095?

[@Aleeknives]

Any spring steel would be similar

[@stephencronin1080]

@@Aleeknives thanks!

[@Stillpoint23]

Like a well written, historical novel, I get something new every time I watch this series. One of the best build along series I've come across for any type of project. I cannot say thank you enough my friend :)

[@Aleeknives]

That is a very encouraging message! I plan to do another step by step soon!

[@bobpharris6179]

I very much appreciate this series of videos.

[@Aleeknives]

Super! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I also love the profile. This is where I think 1080 is a better steel for beginners, particularly if using a quench oil like canola. I've had mixed results using canola and moved on quickly to Parks 50 for more predictable heat treating. Great video series so far though!

[@Aleeknives]

This one came out real nice and didn't have any problems during heat treatment. I should have also mentioned the thickness of the steel also makes a difference in heat treating! This will not be my last tutorial, thanks for your insights! Cheers

[@hammerstoneartifacts4986]

One observation l made while heat treating my first knife. BE PREPARED! Aghghghhhh! Nothing worse then scrambling for things at the last moment. Have oil ready. Have pliers ready. Have magnet ready (with a way to pull it off) If your not prepared. Your going to get flustered. Getting flustered around anything thats over 1000° is an invitation to a skin graph! Great videos! Keep them coming!

[@Aleeknives]

🤣😂so true man! Good call on having things squared away before you get started

[@RedBeardOps]

Good looking work man. I like that profile!

[@Aleeknives]

Thanks Red Beard! Did you see my new domed anvil in the shop? I don't know how to use it yet but it's really cool! 😎

[@RedBeardOps]

@@Aleeknives I'll have to go back and look. Gotta love new tools!

[@NRiggiKnives]

Great techniques shown and great progress here. An awesome series for anyone wanted to learn to hone their skills.

[@Aleeknives]

Thanks so much!

[@Silent_Knives]

Incredibly helpful.

[@bbarker5766]

If you use a few drops of Dawn dish soap in your water and soak your paper first. The soap will lubricate better, clean as it goes, and helps to limit any build up in the paper as well.

[@Aleeknives]

Really neat idea! I'll give that a try

[@USNJackman]

I appreciate the videos and the detail! I recently set my heart on learning to forge and I think a stock removal knife project would be a perfect starting point. I'll be finishing the series and then rewatching very soon after I pick up some bar stock!

[@Aleeknives]

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[@Edward-i5i]

Great video I appreciate your knowledge and skills awesome job sir.

[@TheLankyWoodsman]

So cool, and very helpful. I am making a stock removal knife right now. I love the process, though It takes me a long time due to not having the larger grinders but this video was so helpful. Thanks

[@Aleeknives]

It. Takes a long time even with the large grinders!

[@robertgolden1080]

Again another awesome video. Great tips man. Can’t wait to get some 1084 like you recommended and get to it. Thanks for the quick responses too.

[@Aleeknives]

You bet!

[@m53knives8]

Damn...i must find time to watch next part :)

[@Aleeknives]

I am glad your enjoying It!

[@andrewalarcon4689]

Thank you for making this video series. I just subscribed. These videos are super informative.

[@Aleeknives]

You are welcome Andrew! I am currently working in another series about making knives with basic tools! Glad to have you here on the channel! If you jave questions feel free to ask! Cheers

[@andrewalarcon4689]

@@Aleeknivesstaying tuned for the new videos. I had a question, where did you get your makers mark?

[@Aleeknives]

Made it from 01 tool steel and a Drexel tool

[@andrewalarcon4689]

@@Aleeknives awesome! Thank you!

[@ZealousVitality]

Excellent video

[@Aleeknives]

Thank you Ken!

[@gurvinderkau1e5w18]

Great tutorial video on heat treating. Really appreciate the tips and information you give along the video. Bevels look awesome👍👍👍👍

[@Aleeknives]

Thanks for watching! I am an aspiring maker also, learning everyday myself! See you on the next one!

[@Edward-i5i]

Very educational video 👍🏻👍🏻💥

[@Aleeknives]

I hope this information can help you in your journey of knife making! Here is a link to see some of my knife build build videos kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIjTl5h4lLmnaa8

[@sudo_nym]

Another cool knife-making series!. Yayyy! 🇬🇧🤜⚡️🤛🇺🇸

[@Aleeknives]

Thank you, I hope you find some good info in the series!

[@sudo_nym]

@@Aleeknives Such a great series, mate. Love watching these again and again! 🤜💥🤛

[@Aleeknives]

I have decided to do another series!

[@sudo_nym]

@@Aleeknives Top man! That’s definitely one on my watch list!!!! 👍🏻

[@e-vd]

Consider getting a wireless lavaliere microphone so that your voice recordings are clear. Also, mixing your audio in post to lower the machine noise and raise your voice levels. I have to adjust my audio back and forth every time you run a machine. I have to crank up my audio to hear what you're saying, and then slam the audio level down bc the machine noise is so much louder than your voice recordings. Great content, and a higher audio production value will amplify your voice instructions, which are the parts that we beginners are most interested in hearing.

[@Aleeknives]

I have recently switched to a wireless lavalier microphone system in 2022, comma also switched over to a new 4K camera setup. I had a lot of people give me great pointers just like you and I certainly appreciate it

[@e-vd]

@@Aleeknives Alrighty! You have a talent for teaching, and I'm glad to know you've upgraded your audio recording system so viewers like me can get the most from your instruction. Incidentally, I'm a professional video producer with a keen interest in knife-making. Would you be interested in trading some Q&A? Knife-making topics for video production? Not saying you necessarily need my help bc your videos are good. But, if you ever run into production challenges, it's nice to be able to "phone a friend." I've been there many times 😆

[@abelardocastillo6683]

Best helpfully videos on u tube. What do u think about a partial quench?. Thank u

[@Aleeknives]

I do intermittent quench techniques in water when making a hamon sometimes

[@jeffryrichardson3537]

Love this episode. Question. After heat treat I know comes the temper cycle. In the oven at 425 for 1-2 hrs. My question is can you temper a knife blade just by using a torch. If that is all you have at the moment? If so. Then how? This way I can use these videos for the next stage in my build. Which is the hand sanding process. I just need to get through this phase first. Ty so much for your time and patience.

[@Aleeknives]

You absolutely can but it is not as easy. You heat the blade back to a straw yellow color. If you get to blue you went to far

[@danielhamman7416]

WHERE DO YOU GET A MAKERS STAMP MADE ? You’re a great instructor

[@markboyer8898]

appreciate the informative videos. tell me about the plunge jig please. I assume you made it but details would be great.

[@Aleeknives]

I actually bought that jig from jantz knife supply. They hardly ever have them in stock but it was well worth the $50 bucks

[@markboyer8898]

@@Aleeknives Thanks man, just bought one!

[@JustinBlaustein]

@Aleeknives I absolutely love all of your videos. So much good info. I watch these over and over while I'm at my day job so when I go home I put them into practice. Quick question: when you talk about quenching you say, "I think the book says...". Can you tell me which book?? I can't find a single chart online that definitively says what heat treating method for which steel. I bought some 01 steel thinking "oil quenching" but then I read in one place that it needs to soak at exactly 1500 Farenheit for 1/2 hour. Another source said it can be treated just like you describe the 1095. I don't have a special knife kiln for long "soaks". Is there a work around? (ok, not a quick question, and not one question. ;) ) thanks for the help.

[@DetailingJourney]

Awesome video. I have lots of stainless kitchen knife, i wonder if i can heat them for better hardness?

[@Aleeknives]

Stainless would require a heat treating oven to obtain a consistent temperature over a range of time for a soak period. It is a different process all together and you would have to remove the handles and sand the scale off after heat treatment. Better to just either make new ones or buy better knives

[@stevehisey389]

Move over Walter, best educational series on knife tips and instruction on the tube!!

[@Aleeknives]

Wow, that means a lot to me ! Thank You

[@miketausig4205]

Really great set of videos on making a knife. Only one small nitpicky note…you said early on that even heating “gets the metal in solution.” To be accurate, the heating gets the CARBON in solution, not the metal. You may very well have implied that, and merely glossed over the more scientific process (since that is not not aim), but definitely wanted to clarify that. Cheers man…and really well done.

[@jackrock1313]

A master at work 👍🔪👍🔪👍🔪👍

[@russellfox6619]

Good tutorial mate, just one comment. For those of us not living in the US it would be nice to know how thick a dime is. Many thanks for producing and sharing :)

[@Aleeknives]

Good point sir! Will do

[@BonifabcustomRobBonifacio]

Nice job brother 👍

[@Aleeknives]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@vincentcocuzza8679]

Where can I get a stamp made or a makers mark stamp???? Who did you use or where did you get yours at???

[@Aleeknives]

I made mine out of 01 tool steel and a dremel

[@trainwon5699]

Good job thanks

[@Aleeknives]

Thanks Don!

[@carloscreates001]

I'm loving this series. Buku loads of information! One question for you, when tempering at 425, do you keep it at 425 for the entire 2 hours then pull it out or you keep it at 425 for an hour, turn off the oven and keep the knife in for another hour making it 2 hours total?

[@Aleeknives]

425 for an hour, pull it and let it cool and then 425 for a second hour

[@grizzlybear6176]

Wouldn't you eliminate some of the warping by using an annealing cycle or two?

[@pvpv6969]

If you get a warp durning your quench, what's the best way to try and fix?

[@Aleeknives]

Use a jig during the temper cycle

[@pvpv6969]

@@Aleeknives thank you.

[@Aleeknives]

You're welcome, I generally use two pieces of angle iron with a couple of C clamps

[@Stillpoint23]

A bit if unsolicited advice for those who are still getting to know their palmgren, Norse, Dayton, or craftsman 2x42 belt grinder, be VERY careful grinding the flats post HT. The surface feet per minute is so high that its very easy to do what Airin mentioned about using a magnet, it's almost impossible to avoid that mistake, furthermore, the risk of overheating the blade is also high so do as much finish grinding before HT the blade to make hand sanding much easier thereafter. Keep your cold plunge close by for dunking. And one more thing, if I may, get your bevels as perfect as possible before HT when using a 2x42, those damn waves that appear near the ricasso are a real pain to sand out.

[@Aleeknives]

100% solid advice here!

[@sraines05]

I'm watching your whole series on this, great info for a beginner. I like the raw ore look of scale staying on the meat of the blade, is that OK to just leave on, and not grind the whole knife to a clean finish after tempering, or will that have any kind of negative impact on the life or effectiveness of the knife?

[@Aleeknives]

I have left that on the blade and it seemed to work out ok for me.

[@sraines05]

Definitely gonna try it! 👍 thanks for the work you put in for others.

[@Aleeknives]

Your welcome!

[@samscott7532]

Can I use stainless for knives?

[@bobbygervais6185]

How do you go about testing your hardness after tempering?

[@Aleeknives]

I use hardness files. They aren't great but I can't afford a Rockwell tester

[@vincentcocuzza8679]

Hey Aaron love the knives you’ve been putting out buddy! Hey what brand sand papers do you prefer to use when hand sanding?? I am looking for a good brand and just can’t seem to find the right ones for the finishing of my knives? I just started making some knives as a side thing/hobby so any advise is much appreciated! Thank you and can’t wait to see more videos!

[@Aleeknives]

I switched over to Empire abrasives products and have never looked back! I buy the 9x11 sheets in packs of 50 and 100 in 220, 240,320,400, and 600

[@vincentcocuzza8679]

@@Aleeknives awesome do you have an affiliate link for them that I can use or no? Anything I can do to help the channel I’ll do my best at it. Thanks again for getting back to me so fast and I just seen you wrote me back about your stamp over a month ago so thank you on that response too! I’ve learned so much from your series and will never stop learning more about this fantastic craft/skill!! I love it!! Thanks again!

[@Aleeknives]

I don't have an affiliate but I did add the link in the video description for you. They do send me stuff to try out in the shop every now and then! They actually just sent me some new carbide burrs to try out!

[@vincentcocuzza8679]

@@Aleeknives awesome! How do you get stuff sent to you from them? Is it because they know you’re very good at the craft/skill and will be shouting their products out on your videos? I reached out to a few epoxy companies and stuff like that and only got a few responses. Just curious. Anyways thank you very much for responding! I’m gonna get a order together for Empire and get it in to them! Thanks again and I hope to talk again soon!

[@vincentcocuzza8679]

@@Aleeknives hello again I just was putting a order together w Empire I forgot to ask should I get the wet/dry sheets?

[@astonishingmuthaphuckers2705]

What is the name of that sander you're using? does it go from vertical to horizontal or do you have 2 different ones?

[@Aleeknives]

I have 2 dedicated 2x72 grinders. One vertical and one horizontal. The vertical is a kmg classic and the horizontal is an amk. I like Brian's grinder kit that he has put together over at house/work! It is super sweet if you want to get into a grinder for a lot less money!

[@artisticson2275]

Good information...^^

[@Aleeknives]

Thanks for liking

[@bcworkman1983]

Where did you get your maker's mark stamp?

[@Aleeknives]

I made it from 01 tool steel and a dremel tool

[@jeffreymiller9706]

Do you ALWAYS quench in oil versus water? And I must know where you got that stamp made...I have my own logo idea.

[@Aleeknives]

99% oil quench. A couple of times I have experimented with an interrupted water quench. I made the stamp from 01 tool steel and a dremel

[@Bladeshed]

The question l was about to ask, where can I get a stamp made,for my makers mark? Anyone got an idea on that? I’m enjoying and appreciate your videos, thanks.

[@jeffreymiller9706]

@@Bladeshed contact Maria Honig on Facebook or myself.

[@Bladeshed]

@@jeffreymiller9706 thank you, will do.

[@Bladeshed]

@@jeffreymiller9706 hello Sir, having problems finding you or Maria on Facebook, my wife is helping with her Facebook, I don’t have one . We need a bit more information I think, to find one of you on Facebook.

[@laterinlife8755]

Did you only temper for one cycle?

[@Aleeknives]

No I do 2 cycles

[@pvpv6969]

Can you use something besides oil?

[@Aleeknives]

What did you have in mind?

[@pvpv6969]

Can you use water?

[@Aleeknives]

Most steel will fracture from being quenched in water

[@rambushrami6471]

is this video in C or farenheit? Bc you said 120 degrees and I wanna make sure :D

[@Aleeknives]

Fahrenheit

[@rambushrami6471]

@@Aleeknives thank you for the fast response :)

[@EjJoll]

Can I heat treat my knife in engine oil?

[@Aleeknives]

Sure you can! But don't breath the fumes!

[@EjJoll]

@@Aleeknives Thanks for fast reply, and for the advice.

[@Aleeknives]

You bet!

[@ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣΑστ]

Hello! May i ask a few questions as i am very "young" on knife making?

[@Aleeknives]

Absolutely! Fire away

[@ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣΑστ]

The procedure is the same when working with c70 or 80crv2 steel?? I mean the normalization stage and generally all the procedure? Thanks a lot in advance...

[@ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣΑστ]

I have also seen in your videos that you use a mixture of ferric chloride acid. How much time do you soak the knife and what does it give to the blade?

[@Aleeknives]

I haven't worked with 80crv2 steel, so I am not sure about the heat treating process. All steels have specific alloy that require different temps and soak times. Best bet is when heat treat any steel is to look up industry specs for it.

[@Aleeknives]

I use ferric chloride to bring out hamon lines and to generally darken the overall look of my knives. Mainly because I don't fancy shiny knives. It is purely an aesthetic treatment and does nothing for performance, but it does look cool😜

[@timjohle8876]

You never normalize 3x before quenching.

[@Aleeknives]

I actually do if I forge my steel. I use steel from the new jersey steel baron stock removal blades it has already been fully annealed and pickled which makes the process even easier.

[@Pp4Restoration]

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[@Aleeknives]

Boom! Thanks for watching! Cheers