Stocks (And Bitcoin) Poised To Outperform Bonds In 2024 | DAS Macro Panel 2024

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This is a recorded version of Jack’s macro panel at the 2024 Digital Asset Summit hosted by Blockworks, recorded in London on March 19, 2024. Macro analysts (and previous Forward Guidance guests) Joseph Wang of FedGuy.com, Michael Howell of CrossBorder Capital, Julian Brigden of Macro Intelligence 2 Partners, and Jonny Matthews of SuperMacro (ex-Brevan Howard) share their outlook on the global economy, stocks, bonds, currencies, and Bitcoin.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:18 Will Stocks Continue To Crush Bonds?
07:24 U.S. Economy Continues To Outperform Rest Of World
12:37 Financial Conditions Are Very Loose Despite Fed's Rapid Rise In Interest Rates
17:52 VanEck Ad
22:57 Michael Howell: Liquidity Is Continuing To Rise
30:17 Interest Rates And The Dollar
31:47 Views On Crypto
38:33 Concluding Prediction On Stocks Bonds And Bitcoin
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Disclaimer: Nothing discussed on Forward Guidance should be considered as investment advice. Please always do your own research & speak to a financial advisor before thinking about, thinking about putting your money into these crazy markets.

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[@georgelien]

“They are going to cut” 😂 But they can also delay “the cut” , people

[@TitaAnderson]

Recently bought some recommended stocks and now they are just penny stocks. There seems to be more negative portfolios in the last 3rd half of 2023 with markets tumbling, soaring inflation, and banks going out of business. My concern is how can the rapid interest-rate hike be of favor to a value investor, or is it better avoiding stocks for a while?

[@marlisamirabal]

Just ''buy the dip'' man. In the long term it will payoff. High interest rates usually mean lower stock prices, however investors should be cautious of the bull run, its best you connect with a well-qualified adviser to meet your growth goals and avoid blunder

[@Cammimullens]

The truth is that this is really not as difficult as many people presume it to be. It requires a certain level of diligence, no doubt, which is something ordinary investors lack, and so a financial advisor often comes in very handy. My friend just pulled in more than $84k last month alone from his investment with his advisor. That is how people are able to make such huge profits in the market

[@softy-bf5eg]

nice! once you hit a big milestone, the next comes easier.. who is your advisor please, if you don't mind me asking?

[@Cammimullens]

ANGELA LYNN SCHILLING' is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Empower Financial Services. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

[@softy-bf5eg]

Thank you for this tip. It was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her resume.

[@tatianastarcic]

My portfolio for the past 30 years has always been self managed and I own 3 shares of Berkshire Hathaway Class A stock (BRK:A) which I bought in at about $17,000 during the mid 90s, I’m currently liquidating some of these positions to incoporate new Gen. Stocks, but am I better off re-investing into Gold as it seems stocks are a little too unstable right now.

[@anwensofia]

Just buy Gold and protect your assets, the stock market is a rollercoaster.

[@darnellcapriccioso]

The market is not necessarily a rollercoaster if you know your way around the market, there are various opportunities in the present market to accrue good profit, If you are not too savvy with the market, just buy and hold on strong companies with good earnings, or consult with advisors on ETFs and actively managed funds.

[@richardhudson1243]

How do I reach out to a financial advisor, my portfolio has been struggling since 2022 and I’ve been holding on by the skin of my teeth.

[@darnellcapriccioso]

I work with Tenley Megan Amerson, a licensed fiduciary. Simply look up the name. The information you need to work with a letter to schedule an appointment would be included.

[@maiadazz]

Thanks a lot for this suggestion. I needed this myself, I looked her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

[@BrianFrenchinternet-marketing]

great job... not easy to organize a live presentation with 4 speakers.

[@kikolatulipe]

Everyone despise money printing but everyone love the stock bubble :-)

[@ocavant]

Yeah, what a bunch of hypocrites!😂

[@tqbrowne]

Great presentation. I'm astounded at the degree of agreement among the contributors to the panel.

[@pettersbrevlada]

All star panel. Thank you.

[@philipvjones397]

Brigden wants to go long gold, silver, platinum and short usd. That's basically a 100% correlated trade. What is the point of taking 4 positions to express one thesis i.e. USD weakness?

[@88peyote]

Amazing discussion!!!

[@jingmu1289]

Great episode! Thank you!

[@tropicalbreeze-hh3sh]

Great video, thank you sir

[@greggcal4583]

Really enjoyable and informative.

[@mattanderson6672]

Thanks guys

[@annL5251]

Great show Jack

[@sewnsew6770]

All of the panelists are in the rich group of the bifurcated economy But the bottom 80 percent are being crushed It’s a tale of two cities The best of times and the worst of times

[@BatmanBoss]

Thanks guys! Great panel 👍

[@vegansheldon4087]

Why is there no picture?

[@bmwabbitnator]

All star cast, great stuff

[@conduit242]

Jack is much taller than I thought 😮

[@mfer134]

Julian at the Digital Asset Summit. lolol. . .

[@vinz300000]

😂😂😂Ahahah Indeed! I think they just called him because he lives down the road

[@fluffyclucks7320]

Sounds like a concensus on a permanently high plateau scenario!

[@thesolitaryadventurer]

This cycle I'm listening more to the contrary voices than the cheerleaders.

[@ocavant]

While they “could” outlaw it how would they get ahold of self custodial holdings? Don’t think that would happen, but never say never.

[@heathmulholland1228]

Clear consensus is bearish bonds, interesting. Consensus is often always wrong.

[@roderikvanrinsum2968]

Michael Howell lightyears ahead of everybody else. Imagine seriously still believing in the incompetence hypothesis in this day and age.

[@TheR700cancer]

There is a podcast from the 21 of july 2021 were julian bridge literally says he didn't expect higher yields. Yet here he speaks like if he called the inflation/high yields before it happened no problem! He should take responsibility for making mistaken predictions like everyone makes

[@CommodoreSchmock]

People don't realise that the best antidote to inflation is an intelligent taxation regime

[@sagitta4291]

Joseph doing the money printing meme gesture was the highlight of the video lmao

[@justinwiedeman5017]

Bitcoin has significant negative cash flow. Address that?

[@free-qe6wx]

Who cares if stocks/BTC outperform bonds. That should always be the case. I want to know if stocks/BTC will outperform inflation. Going back to late 2021/early 2022, SPY and BTC has gotten smoked vs inflation.

[@basschalice]

sounds like a bullish signal for bonds

[@mariocabella5476]

Dollar is not going weaker in relative terms because: 1-All CB are desperate to cut and the ECB on the front seat. 2-Financial situation in Europe and EM is worse than in US 3-GDP across the world is worse than US 4-Productivity impulsed by tech is much better in the US. 5-Deglobalization will make the dollar stronger. Dollar still the best fiat.

[@user-eb3pi4tv9k]

Market is so on a narrowly led blow off top when it goes it will be 1999/2007/2022 bad. Julien crashed his hedge fund with a yen bet years ago so I ll swerve his advice.

[@anonmon6236]

honestly stay clear of all of them,

[@sewnsew6770]

Pump me up

[@cryptoengineer9930]

Interesting conversation on finance's, surprised how little they know about bitcoin. A shock is coning.

[@BourgeoisRaser]

Trust me as i cannot even write properly

[@just.for.the.downshifts]

Close your eyes and pick any stock and that would perform bonds isn’t it? Lol

[@twscho5041]

These stuffed shirts might not want the Orange Man but they will be getting him! Trump 2024!

[@tck7394]

Julian and Jonny's assessment is only correct for a tiny slither of the US economy. They are completely wrong overall because the vast majority do no have spare cash to invest in equities. etc and are being decimated. Michael's understanding and perception on macro is incredibly deep, vast and applies world wide not to the grotesquely enriched slither.

[@jphone9200]

Fed likes to make and pop bubbles

[@ryanbaileyboxing]

No shit. Everything outperforms bonds 😂

[@RogerYeahmon]

except everything that doesn't

[@DesmondMiles333]

Imagine if bonds turned out to be the safest asset and we end up with a deflationary spiral.

[@nonexistent5030]

Not a single fixed-income bull? Unfortunate. Would like to see a more balanced discussion that left more room for nuance.

[@nonexistent5030]

Guess when you live in an echo chamber you're going to see consensus and group think...

[@anonmon6236]

crypto isn't fungible, won't be hard to mess with it

[@drewstancill1767]

🙄

[@anonmon6236]

@@drewstancill1767 ever hear of tainted bitcoin?

[@WilliamsTheodore-tm5nb]

I usually look up your videos for updates! Our government has no idea how people are suffering these days. I feel for people with disabilities not getting the help they deserve. Thank you mrs Juana Ambrose, imagine investing $12,000 and received $305,500.

[@RichardThomas-vx5ch]

You're correct!! I make a lot of money without relying on the government. Investing in stocks and digital currencies is beneficial at this moment.

[@Santosdiago-wv6wc]

She must be really dedicated and well trusted for people to talk much good about

[@CharlesAnthonyLucas]

The fact that I got to learn and earn from her program is everything to me think about it, it's a win-win for both ways.

[@JamesMatthew-ll8eq]

Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing mrs Juana Ambrose. name been mentioned here also. Didn't know she has been good to so many people.

[@HarveyVictorCyrus]

I'm new to this and have heard that now is an excellent time to buy. However, I currently have cash sitting in my bank account that I would really like to put to good use because inflation is at an all-time high. Who is this coach that you mention, and how do i reach her

[@edreeves121]

Bitcoin idiocy is astonishing.

[@Twilight_Charger]

Was the 1st guy referring to US Government bonds when he said they were not safe? Is he delusional?

[@BlockworksHQ]

he was NOT referring to their credit risk but their inflation risk / interest rate risk.

[@justinwiedeman5017]

Not impressed.

[@Dandy852]

What a waste of time.

[@BlockworksHQ]

...find me four macro minds who have navigated this cycle better. do you just want doomers predicting a recession and continuing to be wrong for 3 years?

[@D5MDJM7738]

​@@BlockworksHQ yes please

[@nonexistent5030]

@@BlockworksHQ I think what would make for more entertaining AND informative content is macro minds who DISAGREED with each other. If 4 people have the same view and are lucky enough for that view to play out accurately, that says nothing about what will happen going forward. What would be more interesting is a discussion between 4 conflicting views that were not so fully convicted in their views and willing to hear each other out

[@tactileslut]

the nOISE GATEING on the mICROPHONES is distrACTING.