Stoke City SACK Steven Schumacher! My Reaction!

[@stokefandan2694]

I woke up this morning and found out about this. Came right out of the blue. I really liked him as well. I'm gutted.

[@joshs4485]

As a stoke fan I find this baffling, I feel like something has happened behind the scenes as our fans loved him and the performances actually haven't been bad this season so far for a change, I'd have taken anything 12th and above and I believe Schumacher would of taken us there so this is a huge gamble.

[@markjenkins3609]

Didn't he have a heated row with Walters?

[@tarewaste]

The ex Argyle managers are finding that the grass is not always greener.

[@alastairwood7277]

I mean in fairness Lowe was truly dreadful for us at North End, and it has become clear Schumacher was a large part of why Argyle were successful. Even our players are indicating of late in interviews that Lowe was useless. So in fairness Schumacher has just got unlucky and I think he'll be excellent wherever he goes next, whereas Lowe indeed jumping ship has probably killed his Champ career and exposed all his flaws more so as a person than a manager

[@raexv1]

beat you twice and finished above you… think the grass was greener mate, just people in charge of that “grass” are fucking morons

[@thetownenders7930]

lowe wasnt that bad really, he steadied us well after the disaster of mcavoy, but his football wasnt great and just tended to fall off when it was starting to look good. each end of the season we just collapsed when we had the chance to make it. he said he would leave if he couldnt do anything more and he did. i liked him personally but him leaving was right for him. however his attitude in some of his interviews absolutely stunk.

[@jackninetynine5036]

Is it? He’s gotten a nice payout & his reputation hasn’t really taken too much of a dip. Would easily get his Plymouth job back if it was free or a better job

[@db7109]

their bank balances are tho

[@adambailey994]

Insider info has suggested that Schuey had fallen out with Walters and Coates. Heated arguments in the dressing room about his descisions. Playing players in unfamiliar positions and dropping in form players seemingly randomly. Its been reported he told walters and coates to do one.

[@cash4cat]

Just saw Mick Beale at the Hilton😂

[@snazzydares8787]

If we get him we’re going down

[@richardcookson8042]

Be better off with Ian Beale

[@TimComley]

Stoke fan here we have won 9 of last 14

[@ParaplegicSloth]

I'm a season ticket holder at Stoke. Totally baffled by this decision, I think most fans would agree we were moving in the right direction. The timing is totally bananas.... Ok, if they announce a massive coup like Potter today or tomorrow and he's at the ground on Friday then yea ok I guess. But if they end up going with some uninspired random appointment then I'm sure many Stokies will be fuming. On that note, I've just seen a rumor that we've been given permission to talk to Norwich's assistant manager. Jesus, I hope that's a troll...

[@onelhernandez2289]

Pelach will be really good, trust me. I’m really upset that he’s leaving, I have a feeling he’s the reason we made the play offs last season. He’s a really good talker and was incredibly highly rated internally. Have a feeling he’s the next Carlos Corberan and he’ll take you to the top 6.

[@Minidunkathon93]

You’d love Pelach.

[@colingeddes2172]

I thought he was doing a reasonable job. Maybe the stoke hierarchy are getting above their station.

[@stevemasterton1577]

This decision is about as silly as hull sacking rosenoir

[@MaW-FURY-Gaming]

As a Stoke fan, I’m not at all surprised. Stoke have become the laughing stock in the league. There’s speculation that he’s off to Everton. But I don’t think it’s that. There’s clearly something happening behind the closed doors at the club. I think JW wants to bring his own decision as a manager into the role. But who the hell wants to take the position, when we go through as many managers like we have since our relegation from the Premier League.

[@Minidunkathon93]

Until today we’ve always given managers enough time imo. Which manager was sacked too soon outside of Schumacher?

[@moze2324]

surprising tbh, he played some great football

[@Eminem-F1]

That's utterly baffling. Schumacher wasn't doing a bad job this year, I mean, he beat Middlesborough 5-0 and it wasn't exactly their B-Team. It's also not like there are any logistical replacements, unless Potter or Vieira are willing to stoop down to the championship.

[@Howie57]

I hear Evans at rotheram is interested in the position😅😅😅😅😅

[@deanjago1761]

Cant lie as a argyle fan this does make me smile. Being said i get it he chose money over stability, He is a top manager and deserved the time. The stoke board are clearly ruthless 😅and for stoke fans that must suck having no stability.

[@geoffpoole483]

Going back a bit but Alex Ferguson wasn't an overnight success at Manchester United. Managers need time. I know Argyle don't have Stoke's finances but he should have stayed with them after promotion to the Championship. The Stoke job is a poisoned chalice.

[@SCFC213]

Schumacher got sacked from a argument in the dressing room between JW and Schuey which led to schuey getting sacked this morning, not because it was completely off performances

[@raymondmccombie4808]

I really hope they don't regret this,my guess is there is something more positive going on behind the scenes i.e a well known manager/coach, looking forward to the 19th October as I'll be travelling to see them for big game against Norwich.

[@DanielLewis-j5z]

Apparently he had a fall out with walters and got sacked

[@tomlewis4124]

As a Stoke supporter, this decision came as a shock this morning! Although, I’m glad we have been proactive rather than reactive and pulled the trigger now, while there is plenty of time to make something of this season. I never truly believed we were going to achieve anything under him. There is plenty of talk of Narcis Pelach over the job. I would be delighted with this appointment personally. I think it shows and desire and intent to push up the league this year especially with some of the promising players we have at the club.

[@Lunapodthe1st]

Cardiff boss is next

[@SkillJim]

Crazy decision for me, losing to Oxford the Stoke fans were singing Shumachers barmy army all the way to full time. Had the fans backing. Some truth surely in the behind the scenes. No one gets sacked for that, we just came off a 5-0 smashing at Middlesborough and beat Plymouth away too to which he was fist pumping the air for beating his old team again. No one was expecting this news at all, gutting.

[@markhart1005]

Not a Potter fan but I must say the lack of patience being shown is bad. Managers now a days get no time to fix things.

[@andywight7454]

As a Stoke fan I thought it was a spoof post when I saw the sacking of SS this morning. Since relegation we have had managers who had success elsewhere before coming to Stoke each one has resulted in the sack usually after 10 games or so and an announcement like today of a 'change in direction". Before seeing the video I thought of the Birmingham and Eustace situation last season. I believe the new head coach is likely to be the first team coach at Norwich who has no experience as a Head Coach. From experience it will either be a masterstroke or a disaster which will probably be the later. The buck stops further up the food chain at the club.

[@PAFC-Louie]

Oh Schuey😂

[@jackwhite209]

Wayne rooney and sexier in the same sentence is utter madness

[@simonmatthews7512]

Unless the sentence is "everything's sexier than Wayne Rooney" of course.

[@stinkhornadrian]

Especially a week after the government have decided to freeze the pensioners to death.

[@69abm]

Player power

[@gregstertrot]

Nice vid. Thank you. Agree in a lot that you say to be honest apart from the fact I feel we are capable of a play off challenge though admittedly our championship record says otherwise. It is my understanding that Schumachers departure is out of loyalty to his backroom and coaching staff. It is believed that the club didn't consider these to be up to standard and wanted to replace, Steve refused hence he went along with all.

[@Spawndex]

Goddam if we beat Bristol city next week we could get 2 managers sacked in a row 🐂💛

[@edwinstarr5591]

😂😂😂😂😂JOKE CITY OF THE ELF😂😂😂😂😂 is walters running the lauging stock of a club😂😂

[@danblaydon36]

I don't think they'll go down but this is going to hurt the club, as a Ram I am eager to play Stoke, always a great match between the two to be fair

[@willbennett3376]

As a Stoke fan im not really fussed it, he was alright had some good game and some bad games, but i think he fell out with Walters

[@CJ98762]

I hope rumours are wrong, challinor should enjoy his Stockport success.

[@UnexpectedJourney59Eng]

Argyle fan here. We weere gutted when Schuey went, he's charismatic, likeable, plays interesting attacking football and gets the most out of his players, we were gutted when he weent but most Argyle fans understood it was for a much better wage and on paper a much bigger club. Stoke fans must be seeing the news and are as gutted as we were, but this makes no sense, Stoke have won 9 of their last 14 games, that's staying up and possibly Promotion or playoffs statistics! someone may have shot themselves in the foot on the Stioke board! feeel for the Stoke fans, it is just wrong! Hopefully Shuey gets an even bigger club now and can move on...

[@cliffrightmove1527]

Pathetic he is a disloyal git ,he left argyle in the lurch,after we give him his opportunity,and deserve what he got,what a true nelly you are

[@chrisshaw3647]

This is a shocking decision. Schumacher was liked by the stoke fans. I don't like slagging Jonny Walters off but I really don't understand this. We should have sacked him at the end of the season or let him have a chance this season. Really hope we don't regret this decision.

[@Leon-ii3db]

Very weird sacking from the outside, but he played Gooch as a 10 against Oxford after not getting Cundle who he wanted, but we signed so many players so can’t see it being the only reason. His team talks clearly didn’t affect our players as we always concede from 45-60 and I haven’t seen any players saying goodbye on socials. There was also an u21s squad that included Baker after he scored vs Cov aswell as Vidigal who has just been phased out

[@elliotsloan3983]

As a neutral I'm quite surprised.

[@paulvcooke]

Player power at its finest.

[@stevecrowe8135]

Rumour is that him and Walter’s don’t get but absolutely ridiculous sacking him

[@GaryHoyle-p6i]

Respell that guys !!! as a neutral its baffling Be careful for what you wish for

[@WotsaWonder79]

Stoke manager killer Fc

[@alanbrowning]

Bring in Walters he understands Stoke the performance v Oxford clearly showed the players have no respect for Schumacher, that performance was crazy, no one broke a sweat and even the keeper was apologizing to the fans, players need to love the club and take pride not offer BS performances and expect to get away with it. why we let Baker and Cambell go is biggest mystery to me, come on Stoke please raise your performance you as players may not care but I really want Stoke back in the premiership where we belong

[@leemycock1459]

I’m a bit torn on this. Before we took him in the first place - I didn’t see it to be the right appointment because at best I felt he’d never get us better than top half of the championship, so not really future proofing the club. His results haven’t been great, and those that were were generally disjointed. That said, he played a generally positive brand of football which we’d been screaming for and given our squad strength don’t feel he’s done badly enough to warrant a sacking. If you’re going to take on a relative unknown, give them time. If you were going to sack him after 5 games, why not do it at the end of last season so new manager has time to bed in ahead of the season. We (Stoke) are a joke on the footballing front and they show no signs of positive change. These players aren’t as good as most seem to believe and the manager merry go round continues… I hope for the best but expect the worst

[@davidmack4007]

Crazy decision, unless they have something already planned. The big thing is that they are inconsistent and don’t look like scoring goals

[@depekthegreat359]

This is shocking where he was trying to implement his style of play which has been average at best but he is trying to improve the squad well but this is just inaccurate from the team's owner to be doing so,good friends!!!😔

[@OxfordT6942]

Stoke didn’t look that bad at Oxford if you compare to Norwich and Preston. As Ben says seems crazy to do it now and not pre season or Xmas.

[@alexanderwood1010]

We were poor defensively attacking coulsnt hit a barn door but imo it hasn't been a terrible start only poor performance was the big loss at watford

[@heatherthomas8111]

As a stokie living in California trying to keep up with things back ,i know he wasn't doing brilliant but might have needed a bit more time

[@justsomeguy2743]

David moyes is currently free if they can tempt him that’s a good way to work there way back up to the premier league

[@harribo_starmux]

When I first saw this as an arygle fan i thought it was clickbait but when the bbc reported on it I believed it. Plymouth clearly have a manger curse

[@pauljabba8873]

If mobray gets the job I'm selling me season ticket

[@KingsleyGallagher]

Childish politics, Walters is Walters 😂, ⚽️⚽️⚽️

[@lifesahike1679]

This is not just about the results, sometimes as gone on in the background. Good luck for your next job.

[@bertiekemp4198]

Shows people at the top never fully understand the word patience. I thought more of Jon Walters being a Rovers fan but this stinks of Eustace and Birmingham.

[@StokieStokie]

Best decision stoke has made for a long time.

[@Chriscarper]

super jon, super super jon, super jonny walters. Jonny walters is a stoke city legend. Walters gets my full backing.

[@crackite9870]

To make a decision like this they must have someone in mind. Who I don't know but its got to be someone much bigger. Like potter but he's way above us now. Probably a lampard who understands youngsters.

[@catinarage5538]

As a Plymouth fan I have to admit to feeling a bit of Schu-denfreude right now. As a football fan, I have to say on the face of it this is a crazy decision. If Stoke are looking for a change of direction, it makes you wonder whether they looked at his style of play at HP or just looked at Argyle's position at the time.

[@adamrushton88]

As a Stoke fan it does seem unusual timing. I personally dont think he's been sacked based off performances. Maybe some disagreements with Jon Walters and Jon Coates behind the scenes? It feels like we'll never get anywhere just by continously sacking managers because they don't get time to implement their footballing philosophy. We've become the new Watford

[@atid42]

As an Argyle fan HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@atid42]

​@@fuyt772 Cry x

[@Scfcforlife]

Ik as a stoke fan

[@Darkdestroyer-g6w]

Believe me, most Stoke fans are even happier than you that he's gone.

[@raymondmccombie4808]

Up yours!

[@atid42]

​@@raymondmccombie4808 Cry x

[@garethprigg1448]

Possibly an internal argument being the cause??

[@dfitnessstafforduk342]

Generally no one (fans, local media) never expected this news even after Saturdays result. There is talk/rumours of an appointment that is imminent, and feels uninspiring to many Stoke fans. This is the biggest gamble ever being done by the Board

[@Shane_Jones1104]

Stoke are after Norwich city’s first team coach and no not the hoff it another coach that’s apart of the first team

[@lewisdudley-pv8ro]

As a stoke fan there was no need to sack him i liked the way the club was going but now idk we bought players in to match schumachers play style

[@TylerAven10]

Why do stoke refuse to make sense?

[@liamchapman8693]

They can have Liam manning ill drive him there

[@alexanderwood1010]

We also kept manhoef whos our best player

[@markwarrington2365]

Should of givin him a few more games ridiculous

[@petersp63]

It is Incredible How Many Managers get sacked after losing to Oxford!! We are not a Bad Team! Even the Board at Norwich announced they were leaving after the defeat at Oxford! Just did a very quick google search and Stoke, Charlton, Barnsley, Gillingham, Walsall and Cambridge Sacked Manager after loss to Oxford I am sure there's a few more!

[@tonycooper4141]

Stoke fans don't blame Oxford!

[@thetownenders7930]

us at preston had only just got a new management team

[@crackite9870]

Oxford played well and deserved all 3 points to be fair and they do need to win their home games and they did just that against us. Oxford are just the final nail in a lot of coffins lol

[@Howie57]

Hopefully the snake at bristol next😅😅😅😅😅

[@GaryHoyle-p6i]

Cannot believe this news so early in the season 5 games in !!! ridiculous now this young squad have to reset to a new regime It upsets the applecart even more so how do the heiracy justify the decision to change so quickly As a neutralits baffling

[@stinkhornadrian]

To me, the timing suggest some "behind the scenes" falling out.

[@philipmansell7639]

Schuey never had a plan b,was never 100% happy with his appointment

[@paulmccafferty4335]

Personally, and I could be wrong, I was already beginning to see a repeat of the last few seasons, you know lucky if we finish in the top half, the usual. I think the last 3-4 managers have been of a similar kind, very hit-and-miss and I don't think this latest guy was anything special, I don't think he would have been either, I think they could see this and thought 'Best to do it now than wait another 10 games, because believe me out of those games we would have won about 3 of them. I refer to the last 3-4 managers as "Luke-warm Managers" ok, but would never get you too excited, transfer that onto the pitch and you can see where I'm coming from.

[@jackweatherall8292]

It better be potter

[@matthew-thomasplant3542]

I was never his biggest fan, he always seemed nonchalant in post match interviews and never seemed to stick to formula. That being said though, 5 games into the season is a bit mental, unless Walter’s/the board have a keen eye on somebody else. If we’re managerless for weeks on end though we will likely jump into a rushed appointment, defeating the object entirely….sort it out Stoke

[@DaveWalker-j6p]

Unbelievable...

[@aaronrichards692]

As a Stoke fan he was the best manager and I’m still shocked about it now and I don’t mind who the next manager is but it needs to be a good manager not like Wayne Rooney lol

[@leroyengland1777]

Stoke. Where managerial careers go to die….🤨

[@lifesahike1679]

And players

[@DodgeDhanda]

Ben , Baggies fan here . After Lowe my money was on Rooney. Its the championship & the biggest problem at Stoke is the Coates family. Ok they backed by Bet365 money but no owner has a devine right to demend PL football. Also its who is bringing in these players & are they the players he wanted ? I know at the Baggies the squad assembled is as close to what Carlos wanted in players & due to the financial restraints we had to do pur shopping in a different way & for me we bought in the correct players & not just any one. I also read Cardiff may pull the trigger too.

[@ItsEJ11]

Erol Bulut getting sacked at Cardiff will be next

[@Swandog73]

As majority of Stoke fans, this is crazy, baffling and shocking! Can't say that there has been a massive calling for Schumacher to be sacked, we have a couple of bad results but nothing to say 'schuey out'.. this is just indicative of stoke city FC. We're a basket case of a club

[@andrewcooper4606]

Something was wrong, straight after the match loss at Oxford, stormed off straight after the interview

[@reeturnoerjedi9181]

These guys like Walter’s are stifling the abilities of the manager. Money has changed the game more jobs less trust less loyalty

[@Louis-mv6ln]

Stoke fan here - I thought Schumacher was doing a good job . Inconsistent yes but the football looked more promising especially at the end of last season

[@BenHD]

Agreed

[@TimComley]

Seconded pal

[@154stephen]

Tinkered too much with the starting line up. Gooch played out of position etc ..

[@154stephen]

But think somethings gone on behind the scenes

[@Fin.Hosko10]

I really liked him wish we kept him right gutted

[@barnsleygreen2289]

You say you'll look at Stoke's next long term manager. They don't do long term. They expect immediate success. Ridiculous decision....

[@moochopstube]

My first reaction as an Argyle fan was an inward smirk to myself, but as a Championship fan this is madness after only 5 games in. Once again it is the owners and directors dropping their clubs in it, not the managers.

[@scfc5191]

I cant believe we have sacked him ! ! Sounds like Walters has pulled the trigger ! Completely out of the blue . We never employ a foreign manager but it looks like we are going to. Wish Schumacher all the best and iam gutted he has gone .😢

[@SKSK-rz7br]

crazy

[@adcollesp]

As an Argyle fan I'm tempted to say "serves you right" but I think all Plymouth fans, whether soured by his departure last season or not, will recognise that he was a good manager, so this decision is frankly unfathomable. As you say, it's like John Eustace's sacking by Birmingham last season and may well bring the same consequences!

[@atid42]

Absolutely not, nothing but the worst to him and the other rats in his coaching staff.

[@adcollesp]

@@atid42 🤣

[@H3XGroup]

That’s a bit rough. The culture is off not the manager. Money doesn’t solve everything. I do however trust Jon Walter’s so let’s see what they do from here. I feel for this manager though. Who’d want to be a football manager!!! 🤯

[@jackninetynine5036]

Here we go again, gonna throw money taking away another good manager from a smaller club, only to be stuck in the bottom half & sack him in a years time. Absolute s*it show of a club

[@scfc1015]

As a stoke fan i am totally baffled, after what happened to brum last year i dont get it at all

[@stepheng8779]

Beat us to it 😂 had chance of an easy win next game & all those predicting Cardiff next, see who they've got in 2 weeks for their first win 🤦

[@andyfowlds5738]

Stoke are looking like they will poach a top manager from L1 - no not Nathan Jones! why do they keep doing this? When they poached Nathan Jones from Luton, Luton almost when down in their first season in the championship under Graham Jones.

[@happyChappy96621]

If Challinor is smart he’ll stay away from the clown show at the Britannia stadium.

[@ryanbelfield7341]

Bet365 😘

[@WillAlrx]

As a stoke fan I think it must’ve been a falling out with them higher up. I’d say 95% of fans would’ve wanted him to stay. Ridiculous decision, stinks of relegation now

[@kpace8605]

Once Rooney gets the chop maybe he can get his old job back. 🤗

[@incredhulse1]

we have Walters, Shawcross, Fuller, Liam Lawrence and Glenn Whelan - all part of the old school of Stoke - Schumacher up against it then i would think and not able to cultivate his own path....that said he had made some eyebrow raising team selections which did not make sense and I guess the Oxford result was the final straw for Walters....so now SJW gets to bring in his own puppet - massive gamble this one - could easily backfire

[@TimFlanagan-w5j]

How many good managers are we going to screw up, what is happening behind the scenes? J W as put his neck on the line with this one let's hope it doesn't backfire

[@YJB8CCFC]

Not original, but Stoke are a joke! My take. Walters and Schumacher didn’t see eye to eye. Was Walter’s trying to get to influence team selection? And Schumacher wasn’t having any of it, causing a conflict?

[@DamoMcDermott]

Rosette 🐍

[@michaellee9220]

The grass isn’t always greener is it?

[@BenHD]

Thought it was a bit of a strange move for him at the time, wonder where he ends up next 🤔

[@michaellee9220]

@@BenHD my guessing is Bolton, Evatt just can’t get BW up can he. Think Rooney is settling in to the Argyle family. He will be a success at Home Park.

[@geoffpoole483]

He should have stayed at Argyle and worked at getting them established as a Championship club.

[@AllroundJack]

Mad decision stoke fans on the whole are very confused… Obviously been a fallout somewhere you can only hope it pays off and we kick on from here. Utmp 🔴⚪️

[@prestonnevlogs1462]

Ryan Lowe? Lol Youre doomed if it is him