STOP Being Afraid In Corners // Part 2: VISION

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@Justsomedudewithabaldhead
@Justsomedudewithabaldhead 2 ай бұрын
Get recommended by KZbin right after i crash at a corner today 😅
@JoeSalvatore
@JoeSalvatore 3 ай бұрын
UGH! I hate being in my 50's and this is the first time I've ever heard such an easy to understand explanation about depth perception. PS: I've also been riding motorcycles for 30+ years, and I have found all of your videos to be valuable. Thank you for your content!
@bigshuff
@bigshuff 3 ай бұрын
Wait 'til you get to your mid 60's thats when the fun really starts. As The late great Betty Davis once said "old age is no place for wimps". HaHa
@JoeSalvatore
@JoeSalvatore 3 ай бұрын
@@bigshuff hopefully the dementia sets in and I don't remember.
@thomasschmidt5558
@thomasschmidt5558 3 ай бұрын
Better late then never 😅
@JoeSalvatore
@JoeSalvatore 3 ай бұрын
@@thomasschmidt5558 the explanations I've gotten over years have been people basically trying to show off by making it more complicated than it needs to be.
@johnnyblue4799
@johnnyblue4799 2 ай бұрын
@@JoeSalvatore Keith Code and others did not show off and have mastered the art of cornering. The information was always out there.
@mtm7031
@mtm7031 3 ай бұрын
You are a God of a bike tutorial
@adrianteo2421
@adrianteo2421 3 ай бұрын
The best explanation for motorcycle in youtube.
@alidohorizonte
@alidohorizonte 2 ай бұрын
And MotoJitsu as well ⚡️
@andrewoh1663
@andrewoh1663 3 ай бұрын
There's another point about to vision which is important: We are not only binocular but binocular in the horizontal plane. So, if we want to judge distance well, we should tilt out head so that the head remains vertical even when the body is leaning into the corner. You'll see cricket batsmen, batters in baseball doing this: Their body is leaning but they tilt their head to bring it upright.
@trumpetreneau
@trumpetreneau 2 ай бұрын
Whoa. Never really thought about that! Cool idea!!
@photomorti
@photomorti Ай бұрын
I never thought about this! thats good stuff
@newlife155
@newlife155 20 күн бұрын
I have watched people doing exactly that and thought they were less effective riders than those that did not tilt there heads, sigh.
@motoringwithmouseball1219
@motoringwithmouseball1219 3 ай бұрын
My Andre has helped me in the 5 months I’ve been riding !!!! Without my Andre I would be in an accident!!! God bless my Andre … very nice!!!
@dertyberty
@dertyberty 3 ай бұрын
Yes, me too. him and moto jitsu.
@ultrameganoob6979
@ultrameganoob6979 3 ай бұрын
"My" Andre? He's not yours. He's MINE!!
@motoringwithmouseball1219
@motoringwithmouseball1219 3 ай бұрын
@@ultrameganoob6979 🤣🤣🤣 it’s my Andre
3 ай бұрын
Again, I can not tell how grateful I am! You teach like you worn born to it. Thank you so much again!
@soujrnr
@soujrnr 3 ай бұрын
Great stuff, as always!! I love your videos! Thanks for sharing your insights. They are always helpful regardless of how long a person has been riding. I started riding in 1977, and I'm still learning. Never stop learning!!
@PrplCorvas
@PrplCorvas 2 ай бұрын
The new rider here thanks to your videos imma not going to end up under someone's tires thank you very much for the great work you are doing.
@dertyberty
@dertyberty 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant lesson just what I'm trying to get better at .thank you.
@RUDOLPHBROWNE-g1d
@RUDOLPHBROWNE-g1d 3 ай бұрын
I love that limit point tip. That’s a game changer.
@rcraven1013
@rcraven1013 2 ай бұрын
All the training bodies in the UK do, and have done and for nearly 100 years, will train to the limit point on bends . Nothing new there at all. I cant understand why you have never seen or heard of it before.
@DobroPlayer12
@DobroPlayer12 2 ай бұрын
@@rcraven1013 maybe bekoz 'e's no' from the euwe kay
@rcraven1013
@rcraven1013 2 ай бұрын
@@DobroPlayer12 OK so not from the UK but many countries follow the safe systems that we have had since the 1930s here in the UK. some Countries have adopted or adapted them. I am surprised that is not more well known.
@janwanderer7660
@janwanderer7660 3 ай бұрын
yay finally part 2, high quality as always, thank you!
@popocatap
@popocatap 2 ай бұрын
Another great blend of down-to-earth practical demonstration and clever analysis of perception-interpretation-judgement-response. Some people just want hear and see what to do, I like to also hear how/why. These needs are met in this chapter. Thanks!
@cabotannagelritz572
@cabotannagelritz572 3 ай бұрын
Absolute best explanation about where and why to look. After every Vid from there is a better understending of what we have to do. Great Job! 🤗
@alexfloresq9003
@alexfloresq9003 3 ай бұрын
Was waiting for part 2! Thank you :D
@rustymustard7798
@rustymustard7798 3 ай бұрын
A technique i use is to look ahead and memorize. I'll look ahead from the point i can see detail and beyond, and remember what i saw, keeping eyes up and a mental picture of what's under me. I draw am imaginary line where i want to go, and to my vision, the line appears as a subtly different texture visually from the non-line It's a visualization trick i've used all my life, i've been riding since about age 5.
@rustymustard7798
@rustymustard7798 3 ай бұрын
@@TheSometimeAfter no, i'm 10, not 8 lol. JK, been riding since about 1979-1980. And besides, what's it matter? I would have told you the same thing when i was 8 anyways haha.
@Ramon51650
@Ramon51650 Ай бұрын
News!!! I ordered and received an Ultramax Cell, and it arrived yesterday! As soon as I put it on people began to think that you and I are twins!! Amazing!
@stankernaghan1908
@stankernaghan1908 Ай бұрын
Your explanation of cornering is the best explanation I've heard and it's helping me to understand why I keep fifty penceing corners. I can;t wait to get out and start practicing.
@Ramon51650
@Ramon51650 3 ай бұрын
Detailed explanations with visuals and possible scenarios make for tutorials that will have a lasting impression. Thanks you!
@Lacehairwigs
@Lacehairwigs 3 ай бұрын
You are the best 👌🏾
@allenhuling598
@allenhuling598 3 ай бұрын
Enjoying, and learning through this series....already looking forward to the next video! Cheers, and ride safe!
@doejersey
@doejersey 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the next one. That corner tips a winner 🥇
@renegadepsyker
@renegadepsyker 18 күн бұрын
Wow. Before learning to ride in real life, I was playing MotoGP 24. I remember thinking often: I'm crashing all the time. This is crazy. There must be something in my visual field that will help me do the right thing. I started playing, trying to "consciously" subconsciously absorb visual information, and upon learning this and reflecting, it seems what I subconsciously learned is a little like this limit point. Of course, that's a game, and while very useful, IRL is a little different. But the parallels between that experience and this video are clear to me. I already love this technique. Now, let's see if I can improve my MotoGP 24 times! After every IRL riding lesson, I shave off a second here and there from my prior best lap time.
@danebrewer10
@danebrewer10 2 ай бұрын
I'd be really interested in a video on cornering on tight hairpin/switchbacks in the mountains, not something I'll be doing a lot of but a fundamental part of an Alps Moto tour 👌🏻 I'm enjoying your style and explanations 👌🏻
@owenanstey436
@owenanstey436 3 ай бұрын
What a brilliant tutorial.
@jarq19
@jarq19 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the great tips!
@pmacc3557
@pmacc3557 3 ай бұрын
How to stop yourself "freezing" on the bike? that moment when you know you are going to go wide and your body locks and you go wide ...happens in a micro second...
@johnherian781
@johnherian781 3 ай бұрын
Most braking/slowing is done before the start of the turning. Adjust speed you are comfortable upon entry.Use counter steering to lean the bike.Maintain speed through the turn.Only accelerate once your bike is pointed toward the exit.Remember slow in,fast out.Keep your head up and look through the turn. I think "freezing" is due to to much speed in to corners causing the rider to panic or shut down.Lots of accidents can be avoided by using the "slow the fuck down" technique.😅
@johnherian781
@johnherian781 3 ай бұрын
Line selection it also important.There are a lot of videos on that. It's not about speed in cornering,it's about being efficient throughout the whole corner.
@jamesnoneofyourbusiness8808
@jamesnoneofyourbusiness8808 3 ай бұрын
Open your body. Stay loose. Lean it out.
@daniele36140
@daniele36140 3 ай бұрын
Not an expert and I hope André replies to you to correct me eventually. But I feel like one second before the crash is too late to do anything, in fact panic ensues and you freeze. The thing to do would be to look at the curve way before and slow down in time
@pmacc3557
@pmacc3557 3 ай бұрын
Excellent info. Thanks guys. Yes avoid the freeze is the main one..
@StevieGTO4
@StevieGTO4 3 ай бұрын
Wish you posed this a few days ago. Could have used the limit point info. Came across a decreasing radius turn to fast. Luckily, I rolled off the throttle and looked passed the turn. Almost had target fixation
@renegadepsyker
@renegadepsyker 18 күн бұрын
I was 50 pence-ing a corner in my driving school today, haha. Now I know! It was a nice corner to practice-down and up and a double apex, and my instinct is still to hug the inside.
@andymackellar
@andymackellar 2 ай бұрын
I think it helps to teach forward ( and rearward in the mirrors) scanning so that the focus point is purposefully being moved very regularly, and hopefully less likely to fix on any one point. Great video and lovely effects that help explain beautifully, I will definitely use this with my candidates.
@DizzySpark
@DizzySpark 2 ай бұрын
Riding motorcycle only for 10 years without a car. I cannot wait for video 3 im so excited
@gdswghdsCjiirwe
@gdswghdsCjiirwe 3 ай бұрын
Solid explanation. Easy to understand, great job.
@e4wd4312
@e4wd4312 3 ай бұрын
Another great insights on motorcycle skills
@MrEye4get
@MrEye4get 2 ай бұрын
Another exceptional video. One issue I'm having is finding a proper lean angle (and speed) on my heavy 1200cc Triumph Bobber without feeling the rear tyre slip.
@vijayam1
@vijayam1 3 ай бұрын
Always happy to see a notification from you, always helpful as always.. Limit Point, bwoy, such a revelation!
@komanguy
@komanguy 2 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation and advice! Thanks a lot!
@Ghostrider-71
@Ghostrider-71 2 ай бұрын
Excellent synopsis for the new rider. Thank you for the valuable information.
@erniecolussy1705
@erniecolussy1705 3 ай бұрын
I full agree with what you are teaching. I tend to say, "look farther up the road" instead of saying, "look farther down the road." I am just trying to make the point to students to not look down. So I try to avoid using the word down.
@deanmsimpson
@deanmsimpson 3 ай бұрын
I like that 👍
@mickgrogan5214
@mickgrogan5214 2 ай бұрын
Simply outstanding. Thankyou
@finlaggan-lordoftheisles-7982
@finlaggan-lordoftheisles-7982 2 ай бұрын
You have excellent teaching skills 👍. It's an art to explain complex matters in a way eveybody can understand.
@Trevster65
@Trevster65 2 ай бұрын
Great video and explanation. A lot of accidents can be avoided with good self control, I see lots of bikers trying to get their knee down in corners as if they are on race track, unfortunately road surfaces are less predictable than the race track, there could be gravel, potholes, adverse cambers or other objects including oncoming traffic. Want to race go to the track. Just what I see while I’m riding. Stay safe.
@eddiejaoude
@eddiejaoude 16 күн бұрын
Grat video series and explanation! Thank you
@bobmastermotovlog
@bobmastermotovlog 2 ай бұрын
Most important video for riders ❤
@BackWithTheBoom
@BackWithTheBoom 2 ай бұрын
As a mc for 15 years i can confirm this as i tell this to my learners. Also sometimes learners try to really steer in with the steering handles into the corner. But if you go right into a right corner with some apex try to push with your hand on the right side. The bike will automatic lean instead of trying to steer immensly..
@geoffreycheuvart9228
@geoffreycheuvart9228 3 ай бұрын
Hello, thanks a lot for this serie of videos. I am not sure I have understood well the concept about the "limit point" of the road, but it seems very practicle and I am impatient to learn more about it in the part 3 🙂 Have a great day !
@FranciscoSanchez-su2ji
@FranciscoSanchez-su2ji 2 ай бұрын
Eager to see the 3rd part. Great, great, great content.
@FTStratLP
@FTStratLP 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for another very knowledgable and interesting video. BTW target fixation is also the reason why attacking footballers very often shoot directly towards the goalkeeper altghough there was plenty of space right and left of the goalkeeper to place the ball in the goal. That's why shooting good penalties is so difficult. You have to have an eye on the goal keeper to see where he is moving, but you also have to look where you want to shoot the ball. Sorry, that was a bit off topic now. 😊
@brianglendenning1632
@brianglendenning1632 2 ай бұрын
You need to look where you want to go, not at what you are trying to avoid. Go and ride technical single track on a mountain bike, and you pick the better line when you focus where you go rather than focus on hazards. You then take the better line.
@mpilis13
@mpilis13 27 күн бұрын
amazing videos and series thank you 🙌😁
@ronlysons6750
@ronlysons6750 2 ай бұрын
These videos are brilliant, but you need to practise, practise, practise, practise. No matter how many videos you watch. You will only get better, safer and more confident if you practise.
@조선-m1f
@조선-m1f 2 ай бұрын
대단히 감사합니다.ㅎ 항상 건강하시고 행복하세요.
@mloubet
@mloubet Ай бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you
@evilwestsidefan9249
@evilwestsidefan9249 2 ай бұрын
Peripheral vision always messes with me riding through mountain canyons, I get the feeling the mountains are coming at me, it's really something, that and riding through long tunnels
@josegremarbalsomo6407
@josegremarbalsomo6407 3 ай бұрын
Nice content,I'm your followers from the Philippines
@sokhransky
@sokhransky 2 ай бұрын
Best moto tutorials ever
@Pilot88052
@Pilot88052 2 ай бұрын
Стоило изучить английский язык, чтобы смотреть Ваши видео и понимать не хуже, чем на родном нам обоим Русском.😂 Но за понятные и подробные объяснения огромное спасибо! 🤜🤛
@jonathantatler
@jonathantatler 2 ай бұрын
Excellent riding tutorial as always
@sigmaoctantis1892
@sigmaoctantis1892 Ай бұрын
A note on stereopsis (binocular depth perception). Stereopsis is effective for depth perception up to about 18m (depending on the study, some state it is less than that). I do not have stereopsis, I cannot fuse the image from both eyes, and have ridden for many years without encountering problems with depth perception. This in no way detracts from your discussion of limits points, only that it perception at that distance does not require binocular vision.
@gorrdd
@gorrdd 2 ай бұрын
I might add that centrifical balance is also employed. As we experience success in practicing turns, our inner ear sends centrifical balance information to our brain that records the experience. This positive experience of eye to inner ear balance is what gives us confidence that we know what to expect going into and coming out of turns. This is what professional circuit racers have perfected to a keen sense of pushing the limits... all things remaining basically the same. But add a little bit of loose dirt into the line of the turn... and all bets are off.😳 Gord
@rideitalia
@rideitalia 2 ай бұрын
Well explained fella 👍
@TaskSwitcherify
@TaskSwitcherify 2 ай бұрын
You, scientist, you! 🎉😊
@Dave-sw2dm
@Dave-sw2dm 2 ай бұрын
All good until you are leaned so far over there is no room to adjust for a sudden hazard spotted at the last second, or a patch of fresh antifreeze or diesel fuel.
@arvingh659
@arvingh659 2 ай бұрын
As usual, it was great.
@michaelhartley2645
@michaelhartley2645 2 ай бұрын
Great explanation 👍
@stevemoore9951
@stevemoore9951 3 ай бұрын
GREETINGS FROM THE PPRC GREAT VIDEO TODAY.🇺🇸🏍️
@sidrolf
@sidrolf 2 ай бұрын
Another great video my friend!
@white890
@white890 2 ай бұрын
In my country if you look only far and foward you will crash reason being is the fng potholes.
@FreakZAR
@FreakZAR 2 ай бұрын
I do agree with this, but want to share something funny that happened to me. I stopped at T junction and proceeded to turn right looking while looking further into the turn. I noted sand in the t section of the road and decided to take it easy and turn slower. Oops, big mistake! The sand was not sand but pig sh1t😢 I went down as if on ice with slicks. Lesson learned, don't assume anything in the road, it could be anything, even sh1t from your local pig farm😂
@smithgroove945
@smithgroove945 3 ай бұрын
Very cool idea.👍👍👍
@michaelhord
@michaelhord 2 ай бұрын
I'm not going crazy fast before the corner but I go in feathering the front brake in and maybe just a hint of rear. When I get to my perfect lean angle about 1/3 of the way through I let off the brakes and start to twist the throttle a little. As soon as I'm half way through I'm adding more and more throttle. I am looking through to where I want to go. That motorcycle chick taught me that (just like you) on the very day I needed to hear and see it. I would have crashed had I not noticed that I was fixated and instead looked up and to where I wanted to go. Worked like magic.
@GhostRider020
@GhostRider020 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for that cornering level 2 lesson. I' looking forward to level 3 lesson, combining where you look with upper body (OK lower body too but the vision and head placement kind of work together) position for nailing a corenr you entered way too fast. Are instructors allowed to talk about how to go around corners way too fast?
@DsDex-zk1lx
@DsDex-zk1lx 3 ай бұрын
Why does target fixation seem to be less of a problem when driving an automobile ? I have never hit a guard rail with my car.
@micaKTM1290
@micaKTM1290 3 ай бұрын
Because getting through a turn in a car is a much simpler and safer process than on a bike. Car drivers do target fixate also. When a cop get hits on the side of the road it isn't because their flashing lights are not seen. It is because a driver fixated on them.
@daniele36140
@daniele36140 3 ай бұрын
Turning with a car is easier and more forgiving
@Murad.bn2
@Murad.bn2 3 ай бұрын
When driving a car, much less input from the whole body is required, e.g. you can sit closer to the steering wheel and hold it with all 10 fingers (scared beginner), or lay back and use 2 fingers (relaxed profi style), the car will still make the turn according to wheels angle. With a motorbike, it is not the case - head movement can provoke a minor body movement (hands, lean angle), and then you'll go not where intended.
@mildyproductive9726
@mildyproductive9726 2 ай бұрын
Turn wheel more = turn tighter. Motorcycle is more nuanced. A lot of people claim that to turn right you push right. That's all. If your bike is very quick steering and you never lean deep, then that is indeed all you need to know. On a more stable steering bike, particularly at deeper lean, there's more to it. You have to start doing little twitches to make the bike lean deeper, in time. And you also need to hold countertorque on the bars to hold a deep lean angle while maintaining speed, or else the bike will stand back up a bit. But this countertorque is very subtle at lesser lean angles, so many riders only do this subconsciously, if at all. Some riders tend to brake all the way through corners to destablize the bike, because they're afraid of putting pressure on the bars to maintain lean angle; they don't understand that this is a normal part of steering. When dragging brake, the bike no longer self-stabilizes, so it doesn't try to stand back up on its own, anymore. The more of this stuff you do subconsciously, the more it will work only when you're looking where you want to go. As soon as you look away, now you start to consciously think about what you're doing with your hands and body.. So you notice you're applying countertorque, now. But you don't understand it, so you stop. And you run wide. Notice target fixation never makes you accidentally turn the bike tighter. It only make you either freeze and fail to lean deeper, or even stand the bike up and run wide.
@airheadzradioadventures
@airheadzradioadventures 2 ай бұрын
Well done!
@TotallyRegWhatelse
@TotallyRegWhatelse Ай бұрын
❤ Look - turn your head (and helmet! 😊) - and twist your upper body a bit into the bend (to support looking and riding through a bend). 🎉
@niteshdabli2936
@niteshdabli2936 3 ай бұрын
Great video again 🎉
@조선-m1f
@조선-m1f 2 ай бұрын
감사합니다.
@TheAndyshan
@TheAndyshan 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant.
@martinjob2246
@martinjob2246 2 ай бұрын
Great videos
@abdulazizsaleh8650
@abdulazizsaleh8650 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate your kindness explaining ..but I wish if you make shorter...thanks alot💐
@ambergutierrez5092
@ambergutierrez5092 3 ай бұрын
Hit a tranmission slick around corner and lost grip on tires I felt it loose ot and just slide on. 1st corner fall. Thankfully i was only about 20 -Slow speed, from a red light.
@jmc1771
@jmc1771 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@MrBCRC
@MrBCRC 2 ай бұрын
I fifty pence corners all the time. Because i'm bored and choose to practice changing lines mid corner as a skill development exercise in order to alleviate the bordom. 😇 Best bike channel on youtube.
@johnsmith-kc1sn
@johnsmith-kc1sn 3 ай бұрын
Спасибо мой друг
@baldwelder8775
@baldwelder8775 2 ай бұрын
he sounds like Olegsander off the meerkats advert
@ValerieMcDonnell-v5l
@ValerieMcDonnell-v5l 2 ай бұрын
I love this channel!! Is it ok to share on my Facebook?
@ChrisSteamable
@ChrisSteamable 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Still I have an issue - your sponsor is Russia company, right?
@ChrisSteamable
@ChrisSteamable 2 ай бұрын
great video. Still I have an issue - your sponsor is Russia company, right?
@eerikkinuutinen5808
@eerikkinuutinen5808 Ай бұрын
This works on driving a car too...
@jerzygroclinek5066
@jerzygroclinek5066 2 ай бұрын
I wanted to buy this Ultramax Cell underwear, but one shirt shipped to Poland costs $420...
@henrikgustav2294
@henrikgustav2294 Ай бұрын
Also there is a correlation between gopro users and accidents
@Fractal379
@Fractal379 Ай бұрын
And yet correlation is not always equal to causation.
@NanaRides
@NanaRides 3 ай бұрын
I really want to watch and learn from your videos, and I am trying to! All I can hear is "I vant to drink your blood!" 😅
@mygi43543
@mygi43543 3 ай бұрын
Cant wait for motojitsu to explain why you are wrong yet still be incorrect with what he says lol
@RaduAndrei-jd3rl
@RaduAndrei-jd3rl 2 ай бұрын
Yes, good in theory but reality looks otherwise, because you rarely are able to see the entire corner like you do on the track. More, there are usually cars in front of you on the road so you must adapt. Not to mention other things like oil on the road/corners, sand on the road/corners and so on. 50penny is sometimes the best you can do on regular, crowded roads. And you must always have a reserve in terms of speed, torque and brakes. Just my humble opinion after a 4000km trip across Europe.
@tolgadventure
@tolgadventure 2 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you for information. “Although my motorcycle has cornering ABS, if I go fast to corner, I feel the rear end sliding when I brake hard on the rear brake.” Can you please advice for me
@baldandbiking
@baldandbiking 3 ай бұрын
All corners are great as long as you don't hit a gravel patch.
@brianglendenning1632
@brianglendenning1632 2 ай бұрын
If you have good vision you see the gravel patch and adjust for it. It shouldn’t be such a surprise.
@scottsingleton2951
@scottsingleton2951 2 ай бұрын
Because you unconciously steer to where you look.
@denimdenn5874
@denimdenn5874 3 ай бұрын
Fifty pensé может получаться и потому что мотоциклист не может с ходу подобрать правильный наклон и потому делает его то больше, то меньше. Как с этим бороться?
@aseer8429
@aseer8429 3 ай бұрын
I like it...عرض رائع ومقنع....I am from Jordan..
@xani666
@xani666 Ай бұрын
"our main vision is great" 7:47 *goes thru white line*, that would be instant fail on exam here...
@MotoControlEn
@MotoControlEn Ай бұрын
Argentinian flavor😁
@ackiid
@ackiid Ай бұрын
рванёт ли шаблон у комментаторов, если они узнают, откуда автор? :]
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