🛑STOP🛑 Buying Bad RAM! Best Ram for PC Gaming 2023 | DDR4 vs DDR5 Gaming

[@PCBuilderChannel]

▶ *Sponsor: Windows 10 Pro ($16):* biitt.ly/kPBz6 *NOTE: 14th Gen Intel CPUs = Same RAM as Similar 13th Gen* What system are you building? What games are you looking to play at what FPS and Resolution? Tell your story in a new comment below!

[@artistlovepeace]

I love your channel. You are doing it to help people. You are honest. You are factual. You are concerned and educating your audience. Thank you.

[@Daonexus]

Hi jason, commenting for the third time, looks like my comments with the link to my spreadsheet were deleted somehow. Anyhow, huge fan of your videos. I planning on buying my very first gaming pc this month. Since I can't link the doc, i will just type it out. I chose the 7900x bundle from microcentre. A 6950 xt, a montech 903 case, deepcool ls720, corsair rme 1000 watts 990 pro 2tb. Budget is 1800 i am a programmer by profession and gamer by hobby. I need high cpu because sometimes I run programs that eat up the cpu. I mostly do AAA gaming, and valorant, cs on the side. ( never played Minecraft in my life and my first experience i want it to be in 4k ray tracing 😂)

[@proshantobunny5673]

Hi Jason, So my budget is around 900$ max. I am trying to build a future proof pc rn. My first thought was to build a pc with ryzen 7600x but b650 mobo prices are very high in my country. Reason for choosing 7600x is because i can upgrade the processor in the future without changing my mobo.But it seems impossible rn.Also,in that 900$ it includes a gigabyte g24f2 165hz 1080p monitor but doesn’t include a gpu because i will sell my old rig and get the rx 6700 xt. I can take the 7500f but in my previous two builds both times my gpu died on me so i am kinda scared to take a cpu without integrated graphics. Can you help me with a future proof build in this price range?

[@bignicnrg3856]

@proshantobunny5673 no such thing as future proof. Build a pc for your needs today because who knows what coming down the road. In 3-5 years you will need an upgrade regardless to stay relevant.

[@kelley09162]

@@Daonexus it's because KZbin deletes links in the comments of videos. Post it in a Community Post instead.

[@decrexendo]

I swear, this man's videos are thorough enough to easily match a university class, and probably surpass them in clarity in most cases. Thanks Jason for the amazing content.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much for the feedback! So glad they are helpful (:

[@tiagonascimento4386]

Pal seriously now!? Yeah, his videos are cool, very informative and pragmatic but only for the average Joe user!! Do you even know what level of depth and complexity you learn at the university!? I don't think so because if you would, you would have never made that statement. What we have learned there is not even in the same league or weight class. Of course it's not that easy to understand like a simple KZbin video

[@decrexendo]

@@tiagonascimento4386 Apologies! Yes, university is extremely important for gaining deep and well-researched understanding. My point being, it is all too easy for me to get lost in that level of detail (especially when it comes to technology), and I feel that many people benefit from his ability to render so much of that often complicated information so accessible and applicable.

[@knightblad5631]

​​@@tiagonascimento4386 Undergrad is pretty meh, nothing you can't learn yourself with some textbooks and youtube videos. Uni's biggest resource are the professors themself.

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

​@@knightblad5631and access to hardware

[@kennethlauer4735]

This man's the type of guy to get RAM sleep instead of REM sleep

[@thecomedian5933]

I went from knowing literally nothing (and I do mean NOTHING) about PC's to being the "go to guy" about gaming PC's in several RP Discord groups in like 6 months because of Jason's videos. I just had a guy two days ago ask me if I can help him build his first build. Jason's videos are so damn useful. I always send everyone here for PC info.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thats amazing! Thanks so much for letting me know it means a lot. Congrats on your pc building journey!

[@muskateer12345]

I mean.. I built my first pc on my own when I was 15 from just a handful of KZbin videos . Hardly a big deal

[@Demiii_GoD]

Hey man can u help me with a build pls ! Need to know if my parts are good

[@romanalmiron5535]

Hi Jason, thank you for your videos! I have been in the IT industry for about 15 years now, technology changes so much everyday, I learn new things from just watching your videos , thank you for all the effort you put into these informative videos 🙂

[@PCBuilderChannel]

You're very welcome! So glad that you're enjoying the channel! :)

[@RADish-official]

No I won’t stop making these ram mistakes

[@PCBuilderChannel]

LOL :)

[@DS-nw4eq]

I’m still making these ram mistakes.

[@GrayTorment]

What’s crazy is that I’m looking for ram then KZbin recommends this video, safe to say that this video definitely helped 👍🏾

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I heard you reaching out into the force . . . :)

[@luminthal4968]

I literally was about to go buy some ram at microcenter. But kinda wanna wait until prime day

[@JoeyJoejoe-sq9io]

So idealistic. Yeah, that's your phone telling google.

[@talon1706]

They listen to your thoughts.

[@eliyang]

For RAM, I agree QVL is somewhat moot at this point unless you’re trying to overclock to really high speeds. That being said I tend to look and focus on chip manufacturer instead for maximum compatibility. For DDR5, Hynix is the way to go right now. DDR4 Samsung or Hynix is fine.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

QVL was really important for the past 18 months, but thankfully that time is now past!

[@onlyadel1388]

i Want to Upgrade to an 14700k when it comes out with DDR5, Mobo will be z790 Hero Dark and for the Ram Speed i can go 8000mt/s will it work fine just with XMP and go , because i watch other youtubers like framechasers and in his Videos he clearly says all DDR5 above 6800 will have compatibility issues they dont work with just XMP you have to tweak them manually ?

[@dianaalyssa8726]

14th might be better but on 12th I've had to manually set my ram speeds, XMP has failed me on 2 boards (haven't done BIOS updates etc) It's still really fast and snappy even if the speed isn't the full rated, but 14th is supposed to be better with speeds compatibility, as 13th is also. 12th I guess it was new pains. Would still check QVL buy the same or a close kit, I ended up with 48gb kit but I can't run 6400 speed on 12900KF for example. @@onlyadel1388

[@DeepfriedBeans4492]

@@onlyadel1388What are you gonna be using your pc for?

[@onlyadel1388]

@@DeepfriedBeans4492 gaming and editing videos

[@djstevie69]

Clear, concise and informative. Another great video thank you!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you!!! :)

[@creativityinpursuit6935]

Clearest and most concise explanation of how RAM works on KZbin! Thank you for this. I was hoping for DDR4 recommendations as well for intel 13700 and 13900 as I’m currently spec’king out a workstation that uses the Asus B760 Proart D4. If this comment finds you what would you recommend? I do mainly 3D modelling, simulations and rendering in Side Fx Houdini and Blender. Thank you for your time and effort.

[@Jasonwkey]

That is perhaps the most clear explanation of RAM I have heard Great job

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you think so!

[@Jono793]

This was so well timed! Currently trying to stack up a Ryzen 7000 upgrade, and DDR5 is so confusing. Thanks for the updated recommendations.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help!

[@LordWallace]

Thanks for mentioning that cpu memory controller could be a limitation to your ram speeds. I think I told this story in another comment section a long time ago but I felt real silly buying ddr4 3600 cl14 only to not be able to run the kit at xmp with my intel 12700 and having to lower clock speed by 200 mts. And as if that wasnt enough of a kick in the nuts, when I recently made the switch to 4k from 1440p and upgraded gpu accordingly, for some reason my cpu's ram overclock tolerance went down even further, not allowing me to run this same kit any faster than 3200 cl16. Oh but it got better. Had a gpu driver problem recently that warranted troubleshooting off the igpu, guess what, now I could only successfully boot up at 3000 mts if I was using the igpu. Hopefully with an upgrade to a K sku 13th or 14th gen chip depending on prices I'll finally be able to run this kit to its full potential.

[@kramnull8962]

Yeah, other than XMP settings for my Corsair ram the only thing I can run is factory DDR4 3600 CL18. That's on my MSI Tomahawk z790. I'm using Intel Extreme tuning on Desktop, so with no overclocking in bios, so I don't think that is hindering me from booting at 3800. Crazy thing is. "Memory Try It" in bios has stupid 4800mhz CL 15 timings; which most every kit of ram on the market would crash with. Another setting is 4000 CL14. Those kits would cost $400 to get any amount of ram, say 32Gb x2...

[@MundaneThingsBackwards]

RIP for potentially upgrading to intel 13th and 14th k skus. ☠

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

32gb is unnecessary for MOST gaming, but even my 9yo knows you need more than 16gb if you want to have open tabs, discord, youtube on 2nd screen, etc 🤠

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Hence why we say "just gaming". Remember all that stuff isn't just eating up RAM, it's eating up CPU and GPU resources and lowering your FPS!

[@MeesterJ]

​@@PCBuilderChannelnobody I know is just gaming. On second monitor, there are dozens of tabs and other shit going on😂

[@WaterZer0]

Thank you for explaining timings to people because many people (myself included) thought that 6000 CL36 had worse timings than 3000 CL18 when that's not true.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help!

[@KonglomeratYT]

Your channel is filled with so much common sense. Too many reviewers are recommending AM4/DDR4 builds to get 32 gigs minimum; not realizing that someone buying into AM4/DDR4 is doing so to save money. You always take the stats into account in your videos. Like another one where you focused on 1080p since it's still the most popular resolution (Running three 1920x1080s + one 1600x900 here). Though I would contest your statement against DDR5 being considered "future-proof" due to evolving speeds. I believe that, when DDR5 is called "future-proof" compared to DDR4, it's usually in consideration to MOBO requirements. Buy DDR5 today w/ AM5, and you can count on using it many years later. Buy DDR4 now w/ AM4 and you will be throwing out the ram sticks the moment you get a new CPU.

[@ShadiFagihi]

Linus Tech Tips channel is in trouble, this dude makes everything easy.

[@Brancan10]

factss

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Look out Linus we're coming for you! (; But seriously, glad its helpful!

[@Hurduri]

Accidentally bought CL36 ram for my new 7800x3d build. The same day youtube recommends me this and I was able to cancel the order and buy CL30. Thanks a lot!

[@aggregatecrab2989]

Hopefully Ryzen 8000 fixes the fabric timings, I assume that's where all this rumored performance gain is going to come from. Along with better compatibility with faster memory.

[@freazyknight]

As someone who made his first PC 10 years ago and upgraded/overclocked it over the years. I can say this is my first time considering to overclock ram. Good course.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you enjoyed this one. Thanks for tuning in! :))

[@dex4sure361]

These days RAM overclocking is the most worthwhile OC. GPUs and CPUs are usually nearly maxed out of the box, but RAM is often not.

[@bignicnrg3856]

Dropping some knowledge!!!! 💯

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Hey Nic! We're trying :)

[@Youda00008]

I was expected a low quality click-bait, but it left me with a jaw open how well it was explained and how packed it was with useful information.

[@T0ghar]

Even without mods, some games like Escape from Tarkov, Star Citizen and others will use more than 16 GB of Ram. 16GB is not even near-future-proof when you want to play the most demanding games.

[@falcon_224]

Buy a motherboard with 4 ram slots, put 2 now. You can put 2 more later

[@futurewdt]

In my opinion I think 16gb is not enough going into 2024. Running Rivatuner on multiple AAA titles on average they use 15gb and RDR2 on ultra was pulling 17gb. The price in the U.K. for 32gb kits is only around £15 on average extra also!

[@OClueless]

hello Jason i am currently researching budget pcs for my first built pc! i have selected the rx 6700 xt and the AMD ryzen 5600x. i am now looking for a mobo and have in mind the Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II. And i was looking through this video seeing which RAM i should purchase. your options are good but the rgb is pricy so i looked at my own and i decided to go for the Kingston FURY Renegade RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz DDR4 CL16. is this a good choice? Thanks Jason!

[@kculpia]

Good content and great advice for a build I am currently doing. DDR4 does not fit in a DDR5 slot as I tried it out today. Also believe this is an older video, but as of now DDR5 isn't too expensive. I got DDR5 2X16GB "6000" for $119 (32GB) which is about $50 less when this video was made. I was tempted to double it as there are 4 slots (total 64GB), but since I am using an i9-12900ks I will use 2 sticks as Jason advises here. I am not new to pc building, started in the early 90s....my last 2 or 3 have been factory builds. Having fun at age 67 with this hobby now that the 4070 super series came out, I had to come back!! My grandson is 12 years old and we are doing it together.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I love to hear that you're doing it together, that's great! Thanks so much for tuning in, glad we could help!

[@PrismariLaura]

Local prices for ram vary WILDLY around here - a stick of DDR5 6000mhz CL30 is nearly twice as expensive as DDR5 6000mhz CL40, for example. You stated around 15:48 that slower kits offer nearly no savings, hence the recommendation. But under a scenario where the price difference is so large, would the performance loss of going with a 6000mhz CL40 kit be significant over a 6000mhz CL30 nowadays for a Ryzen 7600X? Thanks :)

[@xNachtmahRx]

Strictly based on CL values? Take the cheaper one if money is tight. Sure 30 or 36 are better than 40 but it's barely noticeable unless you are a technician or really into overclocking or hardware

[@Darktophat_10]

Ripjaws S5 CL28-34-34-89 1.35v. DDR5 - 5600 XMP 3.0 paired with a Ryzen 7 7800 X3D. Not bad.

[@marcherano9167]

Hello Jason I've some questions below . -> MB AM5 - ASUS PRIME B650M-A WIFI DDR5 specs is 6400+(OC)/ 6200(OC)/ 6000(OC)/ 5800(OC)/ 5600(OC)/ 5400(OC)/ 5200/ 5000/ 4800 1) Can i put 5600 speed into it and what will be the speed of overclocking and not overclocking ? 2) Can i put ram without AMD Expo into this MB that only support AMD Expo ?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

We answer all these questions in the video so I recommend watching it. That board states compatibility for 5600 in an overclocked mode. The base speed will be dependent upon the RAM manufacturer. All Ryzen 7000 motherboards support both XMP and EXPO and there's really no difference between them.

[@SpoonHurler]

1) if you put 5600 ram into the system and don't enable XMP or EXPO (both are factory tuned overclocks) you will probably get 4800 speed. The ram will come with up to 5 profiles pre-tuned (generally 1-3 and some blank ones though) and you can (but shouldn't) overclock the ram manually. 2) EXPO or XMP will not be that important unless you are trying to get very fast ram with very tight timings to run in 4x sticks then EXPO might help it be stable if you are on AM5.

[@g.waits4gainz205]

cheeeeeeeersd!!!! had a corsair vengence pro rgb SL kit 3600 cl18 cause it was new, but i just dont get behind the insane overclocking propaganda idk~ i have it for my old backup system to keep it alive if i should buy something premium, but ill check into your reocmmendations thanks! id like to have 32gb but i dont want to buy a upgrade kit 3 years from now so i want all 4 slots populated for astetics as well so ill either go 4x8 or splurg to 4x16 since im planning a asus strix b550 f wifi 2 that will handle me perfect AM4 build to capstone this decade of gaming for me haha. buuuuuut i have a 5800x3d and ive heard the fclk pushing matters WAY less and im trying to lean into that and do like 3600 cl 18 and 1800 fclk for the next 5 years but maybe i shojuld perfect it with 3600 cl16 idk XD cheeeeeeers

[@myrath9066]

Hi! I've been deep-diving your channel in preparation for my upcoming PC upgrade. Preparing everything for black friday. I have a RAM question; For AMD you recommend DDR5/6000/CAS30. But the ram chips I'm browing through have additional numbers. Such as 40-40-96 or 36-36 or 36-36-76. Any thoughts on those and on the performance impact on that? Thanks! Also; Do I need to pay attention to that AMD EXPO flag?

[@TheAshfyr]

AMD EXPO is the Overclock method for AMD IIRC. So, basically the same as Intel XMP if you are using AMD. It allows you to run the ram at a higher clock speed as long as the motherboard supports the speed.

[@TheAshfyr]

Those other numbers are the clock timings, it affects the stability of the ram, not sure the details beyond that though.

[@ColossalNakk]

This guy is so informative and actually helping us out to pick the best computer in this day and age. Thank you man

[@PCBuilderChannel]

You got it, glad that we could help you out! And thanks for watching!

[@Allfath3r]

I purchased and installed 2 sticks of DDR5 CL32 6400MT/s alongside my 7800x3d, not realizing that there were compatibility issues with Ryzen CPUs and some of the faster RAM. What would you recommend for my use case? Can I anticipate better performance if I go about manually changing the timings and reducing the speed down to 6000MT/s? I should also mention that I am not experiencing any stability issues with the 6400 EXPO profile, though that did require a BIOS update. Prior to updating my BIOS, my system wouldn’t even POST when I activated EXPO.

[@imps-xr5br]

Gskill trident z neo cl30 6000mhz. Used buildzoids timings and 6000mhz cl28

[@born2serve92]

I went with G Skill Trident's Cl30 6000 and it's been great. Ryzen seems to work best on 6000MT/s (for now)

[@77cats-2]

This has to be the most useful recommendation from KZbin. Having used computers for decades, I've still learnt something.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

[@Kapono5150]

It’s kinda crazy how cheap Hynix die has become. Just picked up 32 GB 6000 CL30 for 85 bucks.

[@mangatom192]

It's probably an a-die too at that so it has good overclocking potential.

[@TheAdventuresOfAdam]

i saw a LTT video where he explained the absolute latency formula. i watched him explain it twice and still had no idea what he meant. You explained it so much more clearly. I finally get it now. I love how you explain things in a way that non-enthusiasts such as myself can understand. I've learned so much more watching your videos than any LTT or Gamer Nexus video. TYVM!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad we can help!

[@mil260zs]

I dont know if i made a mistake for buying FURY Renegade 32 GB DDR4-3600 CL16 for my ryzen 5 5600 for about 90$ or not, it kinda seemed like a huge price for that

[@PCBuilderChannel]

3600 CL16 2x16GB is becoming more rare as DDR4 increasingly moves to the "budget category" and most kits at 2x16GB are now 3200 CL16 (easier to produce). $90 is on the expensive side, but not terrible.

[@mil260zs]

thank you for the answer@@PCBuilderChannel

[@Nopecvtgaya]

best vid to watch while eating launch 😅

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Enjoy your lunch!

[@Nopecvtgaya]

haha thank you sm 😄

[@EnzordG]

This is BY FAR the best channel out there to build a PC. WoW man, just wow subscribed

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the feedback! And thank you for the sub. So glad you're enjoying it.

[@Joeker8171]

This is going to be good. Since i have a Ryzen 5 5600x i can use the 3600mhz now right?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes! Though it is 3600 MT/s :-P

[@Joeker8171]

​@@PCBuilderChannel... or could it be my Mobo?

[@SpoonHurler]

Yes, you can typically use up to 4000 mhz in 1:1:1 ratio, some chips can even get to 4400 but that's silicon lottery. But 3600 cl16 or 18 is going to work fine.

[@SpoonHurler]

​@@PCBuilderChannellol, we have given up fighting that fight 😂

[@Joeker8171]

​@SpoonHurler I have a Ryzen 5 2600 right now in my system. I didn't upgrade it to the 5600x yet. I have it, but I tried to use 3600mhz on my 2600 it was not working

[@victorhughgo2376]

Outstanding video, thank you for the thorough information.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@soulman902]

The QVL is still very important that you match memory that is compatible with Motherboard and CPU. I recently got burned on this picking up Memory for a B550 DDR4 from Corsair that was XMP profile rated at 3600. I should have apparently looked at Corsair’s website but that kit is just not compatible with B550 boards at that Transfer Rate. While I was able to install OS and games to the system running them was another matter. Starfield kept constantly crashing to the desktop. Running Memtest revealed a ton of errors. After dropping the XMP profile off and running at 2133 was the only time I could get the memory kit to pass. Trying to bump the rate down to 3200 still produced errors. I had to buy a kit that was confirmed compatible with the B550 Chipset. The one I had was only confirmed compatible with the X570 per corsair. After getting the correct kit was I able to run it at 3600MT. So don’t listen to advice that you can ignore QVL and Compatibility lists from these makers else you will get burned like I did.

[@stacylite]

What brand of board and what CPU you have?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Sounds like you had a bad stick of RAM. Definitely happens as I just had a kit burn out after 2 days. Just send it back and exchange it.

[@hectorgonzalez4792]

QVLs are marketing now. U see 8000 plus on 4 dimm mobos that are not stable at all

[@extremestudios9355]

People like you who share so much knowledge for both tech informed and non-informed people deserve a lot more subscribers. Have been watching you for years now, keep it up, we need you.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you! So glad its helpful

[@Dragnulls]

My new computer will utilize 3200Mhz CL16-18-38 ram 2x16GB dual-channeled and Im pairing it with an i5 13600KF and an RX 6800 16GB for a 1440p 165hz setup (mobo unsure prices need to come in for black friday) but this setup should be reliable with ddr4 ram as 2x16GB ddr5 ramsticks is expensive asf when I got this kit for 61 dollars (sales-tax applied w/free shipping) paired with an 980 Pro (sounds overkill but I can get it for under 70 dollars so I consider it with it). This setup should be future-proofed for a while as ddr4 ram speeds have proven to be the most veristile. Would you consider the ddr4 ramkit to be a good long-term at that speed?

[@mikeywilson9804]

I love cats first comment

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So fast! (;

[@darksim73]

So I have a ryzen 7 5800x, 4070ti, 32g of 3200 w /xmp profile on. B550 mb. What’s the max ram I can upgrade to? Should I even bother?

[@Angel-em6od]

Was choosing two 5600 mhz CL38 ddr5 ram for $98 a good decision? It was notoriously the cheapest options in my country.

[@whitenukezz9481]

Is it a problem if i get a gskill Trident Z5 RGB RAM with 6400mt/s and cl 34? In my region i cant get a 6000mt/s cl 30 kit?

[@alexp5604]

I still come back to this video even thought I build my first pc I’m currently building a second one for my wife and thank god this guy exists he breaks it down so well

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it’s helpful! Best wishes for the build

[@sippin1486]

Thank you one of my Timtec ram sticks died a month ago so I’m only running on one 8gb stick. I was looking to get new ram sticks but didn’t know what to go with. This video helped me to choose I also did my research and found out what memory speeds both my cpu and motherboard works best at and it’s safe to say that I can go with the 2x8gb Teamgroup Tforce ddr4 (3200mhz CL16) Ram kit

[@josephgreenwell7807]

I put DDR4-4400 16GB ram into my PC. It's a Ryzen 5 3600 using a ASRook B5550M Phantom Gaming 4 motherboard with a RX 6700 XT video card. Next on my wish list is a faster CPU.

[@hot_valcano]

Will 3600 cl14 14-14-14-34 be fine for a 5600x???

[@muthaflaco75]

That was a lot of useful information unpacked in an easy to follow way. Definitely helped in my decision making process.

[@yajnalgibno6536]

Holy God! This video is so perfect for me! Especially on the lectures about Ram speed and Latency. Thank you very much

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad its helpful! Thank you for watching

[@DCandtheInsectobytez]

Let's start a petition to MSi to make their own line of RGB ram. I got an all MSi build... sigh, except for the ram. 😪😪😪😪😫😫

[@jeffreylyons1531]

I needed this, with ddr5 ram prices down it’s definitely attractive, just picked up a ddr5 z690 motherboard and hope to get a ram kit on prime day

[@kensingtonwick]

You’re the man cool guy. Haven’t had a gaming PC in 12 years and was baffled by the purported frequency limitation of certain mobos. It appears I have no worries. Thank you for the vital info.

[@rgracon]

I've never had luck trying to use a QVL - just doesn't pan out in a real world use case

[@PCBuilderChannel]

QVL lists are important at the beginning of a CPU architecture launch and fade in importance as bugs and compatibility are worked out. Right now people don't even really need to worry about them IMO.

[@hdz77]

The Best DDR5 RAM is 6000 CL30 from Teamgroup and 5600 CL 28 which I own G-Skill Ripjaw.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Both are great kits. I have noticed that 5600 CL28 seems to be going away in favor of the 6000 CL30 stuff.

[@abdellatifcheater9833]

Jason Nice video, Can you do a video About The best DAC's to get, Never saw one in your Channel before

[@PCBuilderChannel]

That's a great suggestion, will definitely consider it.

[@dahle1983]

However, with the introduction of Dual Data Rate (DDR) for RAM, the data rate (MT/s) and frequency (MHz) are no longer synchronized 1:1. DDR is a technology that doubles the data rate of standard SDRAM. By shifting data on the rising and falling edges of a square wave, DDR RAM can transfer twice as much data at the same clock speed. This does not mean that measuring RAM speed in MHz is wrong, any more than measuring it in MT/s is. Data rate and frequency are both good measures of RAM speed.

[@heyjoe113]

Did I miss it or did you forgot to mention which DDR4-kit to buy for the 13600k on a Z-790 board?

[@sanchido36]

This is brilliant, I am planning to build a new pc (currently have a pre-built) this explains everything really well.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Very exciting! Glad you found this one useful. Good luck with the build!

[@Oheng75]

Been building PC's for 25 years and indeed, I use Mhz instead of MT/s 😂 Stupid and obvious mistake.

[@timderks5960]

Great video, you've been really helping me out with upgrading my PC. Do you have any recommendations on RAM for a 5700X3D/RX 7700 XT combo? Would 3600 CL16 still be good enough?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes that's great. And we are recommending 32gb kits now so if you need to drop down to 3200 cl 16 that's fine too.

[@mr.guillotine3766]

I just added two more sticks of RAM to my older PC so running a Ryzen 3600 with 32 gigs of RAM at 3200 CL 16. I know many say that you should run RAM at 3600, but i didn't have the budget to just grab 32 gigs at 3600 CL 16, so I just put in 2 more 8 gig sticks of what I already had in it.

[@aelswify]

Thanks a lot for this great presentation

[@PCBuilderChannel]

You're very welcome! And thanks for watching and learning :)

[@canadianguy1955]

I'm finally upgrading from an i7-3770k, 16gb ddr3 and a gtx 770 4gb. Went with an AM5 board because I wanted to future proof this pc a bit by allowing me to upgrade the cpu in the future, and have the latest ddr5 ram. Holly hell, are AM5 boards pricey. Add on the fact ddr5 seems to be split down the market. Meaning they are made for either intel xmp, Or AMD Expo, not both. Well this has cut the market in half for me, and now all i have as options are expensive RGB models that have giant tall housings for that RGB lights. Making it difficult to fit the air coolers I can pick. I don't want to spend $40+ dollars on RGB, I just want low profile ram with a good passive cooler. I'm starting to think it was a bad decision going AM5. From the expensive motherboard, to the unavailability of affordable models of ram leading to the pricing of my current build going from under $1400, to sitting at around $1550 do to these ridiculous RGB sets and split market ram sets that don't support AMD expo. I miss the days of ram just working on any chipset like it was when i built my last machine.

[@canyouread]

Finally, been waiting for someone to say "ignore QVL" for a long time. It's just what they've tested, no way companies can test all the available kits on the market. In all honesty, I was prepared to hate this vid (based on the thumbnail) because I thought you'd say that this particular Silicon Power RAM was bad and go into the models, but it's all facts. Great vid!

[@the_soggster3464]

Thanks a ton. Your a holy technomage in my eyes.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Haha thank you, happy to provide some PC Building magic! Thanks for watching!

[@deaddoomed2380]

i was struggling choosing between ddr4 and ddr5 rams for my new build, this helped me a lot thx!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you found this one helpful! Thanks so much for tuning in :D

[@sampic_]

at 8:58 futureproof means that the upgrade path isn't locked yet. If you buy an AM5 motherboard with bad DDR5 you can still get some better later on, Same for Intel.

[@DazednConfused0]

Another great video, just built a 5600 and planning to build more. I was just wondering what was the "cap" on the ram was. Perfect timing. Thanks

[@damnurface]

My first time building, I went with a 7800x3d because of a sale, im trying to go budget so I paird it with a asrock b650m pro rs mother board and was looking into the t-force 6000 cl30 ram.

[@ovadyahbenyisrael2589]

Great video! I have a question: I know you specialize in gaming PC's, but a lot of us creators watch you, as well, including me. I'm building essentially a ProArt system using an Intel i9 1400KF, an Asus ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard, and an Asus ProArt OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card. I'll be doing some basic overclocking to near max stability on everything. I am undecided about RAM, and need quite a bit for what I do. Currently, I am looking at the Corsair Dominator Titanium 96 GB 6600MT's @ CL32, or the G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 96 GB 6800MT's @CL34. I've seen pros & cons for both. With my proposed components and usage, which do you think should be better, and why? (0) (0)

[@camelcase811]

I run 4 sticks @3800MT/s on my Ryzen 9 5950X without any issues at all. DRAM 1900MHz, IMC 1900MHz, Infinity Fabric 1900MHz.

[@poorplayer9249]

Jason, this is going straight to my computer/reference favs. Thank you very much!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful!

[@decibellone696]

I always explain to people that RAM is the desk space your CPU has to work with, not enough RAM means a small desk and your CPU has to keep going back to the file cabinet (hard drive) to search for the files it needs, with a bigger desk (more RAM) your cpu has to work less to assemble the information it needs. and when you have faster RAM if your CPU does have to go the file cabinet it can do it faster.

[@Wooksley]

The megahertz/megatransfers distinction is dubious anyway. Hertz are just times per second, and you can obviously measure data transfers in hertz, just as you can measure electrical pulses in hertz.

[@vicheaterx]

Thanks, never knew Intel stuggled with 4 sticks high speed RAM. Dual rank is probably the way to optimize things even further, as seen in HardwareUnboxed's recent clips.

[@TechManMax]

Currently have 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 CL16 (2 sticks, dual channel) running XMP paired with i7 13700KF (with Peerless Assassin 120 SE), ASRock H670 Steel Legend, and RTX 4070 Ti Super (Prebuilt spec in a sale). Is it worth upgrading the motherboard to a high end Z series (e.g. MSI Z790 Tomahawk Max WiFi) with DDR5 (not really planning on overclocking CPU though) or would it be a waste of money. It would cost around £300-£350 which is pretty steep but would the performance boost, if any, be worth it longterm? Or should I wait till I next upgrade GPU (not for a while)?

[@lllOmidlll]

You and linus helped me build my own computer And I really am thankful for that❤

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Love those guys! Happy to hear we were helpful for your build! And we're thankful for your viewership :)

[@En1gma3069]

Hey there! Exciting build I've got in the works! 👍 I've already secured the MSI RTX 4090 24GB and the Y70 case from Hyte. For the motherboard, I opted for the MSI Z790 Godlike MAX paired with the i9 14900K 6GHz CPU. My challenge now is finding a 4-stick RAM kit that hits the desired 7800MT/s and comes in 32GB modules, not the standard 16GB. Budget is flexible, but I'm having trouble locating such high-speed RAM with the right capacity and RGB on Amazon or Newegg. Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated! 🚀💻

[@tao4124]

Great video. Much love for you and your cat. 🙏

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you so much! Hope you are having a great weekend!

[@cayennest]

Excellent video as always. Can't be more clear or precise or concise

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it! Hope you keep enjoying all the content :)

[@NightwishArena]

Ok, I regret of watching this video now, and realizing that I have just spent over 100 euros for nothing (Kingston 32GB (2 x 16GB) Fury Beast DDR5 RGB, 6000MHz, CL36). I would have probably got even better motherboard for cheaper price if I would have went with DDR4. Well, I know my computer will be enough for my needs for at least 2-4 years, but it still pisses me off, that they always advertise these new technologies and give the impression, that it's twice faster than previous, when in reality it's always just a few percents...if any. Just like with SSD's. Back in the early 00's leaps in speed were actually huge, and they didn't lie to us when they said if something was twice or 50% faster...at least they didn't lie this much. Now they only want to scam people to spend their money for nothing.

[@AlerionGaming]

i came here for the cat

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Best reason!

[@VinniePaz]

Just in time man, I was just looking to upgrade my RAM. I went with Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz C16 Optimized for AMD Ryzen to go with my 5600X CPU and a 7800 XT Thanks so much for the info

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad I could help! Good luck on the build!

[@liameverson3230]

Currently getting back into the PC scene after a long hiatus of over 20 years. The last system I built was an AMD K6 233MMX (lol) so that's how long I've been away. A lot to learn to catch up to modern systems so vids like this are very welcome for me to get my head around things.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I actually started this channel when I came back to pc building after a break and wishes there was a channel to catch me up! Hope we are helpful (:

[@cristivpopescu]

@@PCBuilderChannel very nice comment, man! You are doing a great job of filling the void!

[@Chimpiontv]

Starting my first build, your channel is so helpful with it all! Keep it up

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Good luck on your build! Happy that we can help :) Be sure to check out our How To Build a PC 2023 and How To Setup PC After Build 2023 videos for more!

[@aldronusf8063]

Thank you for the extremely informative and easy to understand information! Truly appreciate your time and passion put into this!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much, happy to hear you appreciate it! We're happy to help. And thank you for watching :)

[@darkace37]

Huge help! Thanks for the video and insight.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

You're very welcome. Glad we could help!

[@dylitefulgames]

This is the first tech video in a little while where I felt like I actually learned something, and I got excited about it haha

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching

[@eughn]

Hertz is a frequency. It says how many times per second something happens. Clock frequency 16000000 pulse per second, memory frequency 32000000 transitions per second. Both are hertz, no mistake here.

[@n64slayer]

I was just about to say, why does it say mhz in my bois when setting ram speed 😂

[@LilypadOW]

13:06 i got a 4070 with a 5800x 3D, do i need the 3600 RAM? already got 3200 leftovers from my last build :/

[@epic_iram]

About to build my 12600k system w the sonic edition b760. Just needed ram!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help!

[@alexg.1430]

Hey, i just found your channel and it's amazing, do you recommend Ryzen 7 7800 3XD paired with the MSI MAG Tomahawk and an AIR cooler? is this enough to keep it cool and the VRMS ? at the moment i'm trying to figure what motherboard to buy and MSI MAG tomahawk seems like a good one, i have trust issues with Asus so idk if i should try that brand. Most of the motherboards are very expansive so i try to keep it close to a max of 250 euro.

[@Crossfire2003]

Great video. Informative too.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you enjoyed this one! Thanks so much for watching :))

[@AKAmainframe]

Just found your video, in which segment of your RAM recommendation would you say the 5800x3d & 5700x3d fall under?

[@portalwalker_]

I disagree with you on the Mhz thing. Because Hz literally means times per second if you say that your 3200Mhz DDR4 stick refers to it transferring data 3200 times per second you are still right. So instead of Mhz referring to the clock speed of the physical clock the module works on, it refers to the transfer rate of data