STOP! Don't Move to Utah (Unless You Can Accept these 6 Things)

STOP! Don't Move to Utah (Unless You Can Accept these 6 Things)
If you are considering moving to Utah or moving to Salt Lake City, you'll want to not only search out the reasons why people love to move here, but also the reasons that some people don't like it here. In this video, I break it down!
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[@scottdsteele]

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[@Laver-galarga]

Why would I move to Utah it’s boring you can’t gamble you can’t really buy alcohol in a lot of places and there’s no lottery????

[@Stany990]

if you from cali. keep going

[@Auntiep61]

​@Laver-galarga WOW!!!! I'm from Utah, and if you want gambling. 1 1/2 hours to the west is Wendover Nevada. You can drink 24/7. You just have to buy it before 1 am to 8 am. Utah is far from boring. There is so much to do here. The lakes are great to fish in or water ski on. The mountains are SPECTACULAR!!!!!! The Wasatch front is only 30 minutes away if you live in West Valley like I do. The Oaker Mountains are fun also. If the only thing you think is fun is drinking and gambling I honestly think it is you that is boring my friend.

[@Sleepindragon2]

​@Auntiep61 stop promoting utah!!! I'm from Colorado look what happened to us when we let outsiders in.

[@Auntiep61]

@Sleepindragon2 I'm not promoting Utah. We have enough people living here. I don't want any more of our beautiful state taken up with housing.

[@evanwrites1513]

The housing market is ridiculous in Utah. Nothing is affordable.

[@scottdsteele]

You're not wrong my friend

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

Not just Utah it’s pretty much everywhere

[@miscprojects9662]

Was affordable before all the democrat trash from California, Oregon and Washington fled to Utah.

[@SonOfTheOne111]

Why is Utah so damned expensive? I love SE Utah - seems really remote- but noticed the houses are priced the same as California!

[@iSaintSabas]

It is due to everyone moving in

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

Fun fact….every driver in every state swears they have the worst drivers.

[@scottdsteele]

Touché!

[@alexk7405]

ADVISEMENT: D O N O T drive in Park City during the Sundance Film Festival. (I live in Park City btw)

[@scottdsteele]

It does get crazy!

[@jordanneal576]

I went to Texas a few years ago and after driving around Houston for a while I became convinced that Utah is a driver's paradise.

[@xxstormbringerxx]

The NTSB has rated Utah as having the worst, most rude drivers two years in a row.

[@koltonknighton1402]

I live in Utah. Please don’t move here. Thank you. Have a wonderful day.

[@scottdsteele]

I hear you!

[@sboz86]

But you actually don't. You profit off of people moving here. Hypocrite.

[@scottdsteele]

Gee thanks sboz86??? You don't even know me and yet you get brave behind a keyboard. I serve people and I love doing so, and you don't have to

[@cindeekstevenson9078]

Agree

[@christopherdodge5465]

I also live in Utah and agree. Please don't move here.

[@SuperZippyzippy]

Slow drivers in the fast lane is notorious here

[@scottdsteele]

This is no joke!

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

Then you have the jerks that is a mile back and you merge to the left to pass a truck and before you can move back over that jerk that was a mile back is now tailgating you. So these jerks speed up then want to complain you are going slow in the left lane. I’ve seen this a million times already. They were a mile back but somehow in 20 seconds they are tailgating you smh

[@SuperZippyzippy]

@@BrianWaller-qe7gr AMEN!! I noticed that too

[@Capthowdy098]

Also, with this getting over into the fast lane, for people to merge, this is non-existent.

[@CBZ666]

The Mormon roadblock

[@cnev333]

Utahs cool. We moved here 10 years ago. You get what you give. Just make sure you wait for a few cars to run a red light before you go

[@scottdsteele]

Well said! Thanks

[@LaKeyraThomas]

So true

[@danielburns5325]

I’ve lived in Utah for 4 years, and I’ve enjoyed my time here. My biggest issue is the total lack of separation of church and state. It’s pretty blatant.

[@scottdsteele]

Gotcha, what exactly do you mean? Examples?

[@evanjarvis7261]

⁠@@scottdsteeleUtah’s medical cannabis program is a big one. The people voted for a bill that was a very standard medical cannabis program, and the church lobbied the state legislature to pass a different bill, greatly restricting nearly every aspect of the program. That has lead to prices being held artificially higher than any of our neighboring states, leading most patients that I’ve talked to to head out of state for their medical cannabis purchases.

[@scottdsteele]

Got it, that makes sense.

[@algalle2]

I don't mind it. It keeps the whole state from turning into shitty states the people are moving out of. . .

[@algalle2]

Also I don't smoke weed, so I don't give a flying fuck about the cannabis thing. But that is just me also.

[@kukey25]

I'm LDS and have lived here for 30 years, 65% of my life. Rude drivers: check. I admit I've been one of them, but I'm getting better! Mormon exclusivity: check. But it is incorrect to stereotype us all that way. I think maybe half or so have a judgment problem at some point, but we are human and change as we grow, so don't overgeneralize us for that either. The other half are very understanding and empathetic. Newcomers to any location need to remember the self-fulfilling prophecy. If you see your neighbors as bad people, they'll sense it and become defensive. Remember LDS has a history of being persecuted and can become defensive. I think we generally like people and will be very welcoming if not attacked first. Basic human nature.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for that comment John! I agree with you too that whatever someone is looking for... they will find it, whether it's the good or the bad

[@starzilla2975]

@@cj6884 This is a bit out of touch, you don't know the person you are talking to or the experiences they have had, and groups like that are often the butt of jokes and bullying, it's completely reasonable to see why they could get defensive or aprehensive of new comers.

[@_haneda]

It must be excruciating for you.

[@Spud516]

People that criticize the LDS for being human and not perfect are screwballs themselves acting like they are such good people and that no one else can make mistakes! Typical hypocrisy understated.

[@SamGarfield1]

Do you or do you not believe that you are "God's chosen people?" I don't see how someone can believe that and not feel superior to others.

[@asajayunknown6290]

NOT ENOUGH WATER!!!!! The SLC metro needs to get less people, not more. If the GSL dries up, the whole city is going to have toxic air.

[@scottdsteele]

Your exactly right and we have to better manage our water resources.

[@kdissed]

We have plenty of water. But I agree...less people.

[@scottdsteele]

Yet It's impossible to stop

[@asajayunknown6290]

@scottdsteele No. It could easily be controlled. Require any new residential to prove 200 years of water supply before they can get a permit. Or, less drastic, xeriscape only, including established neighborhoods. Utah gets less rain than AZ, but uses water like it's Illinois.

[@scottdsteele]

I was saying it's impossible to stop people from moving here. People have the freedom to go where they want to and Utah is at or near the top of the list for so many reasons.

[@patandsandytrierweiler2440]

Yknow, I moved to Utah about 30 years ago and was impressed by the couteous drivers...my, how things have changed! I think it's the increased crowding.

[@scottdsteele]

I know! I hope that can all just think to be a little more courteous and kind

[@brandongilligan6893]

People here are way too courteous. I constantly see people slam on their brakes in traffic to give up their right of way. They are trying to be courteous but are creating a much more dangerous scenario.

[@lauramacgregor9057]

Na, they are still great!

[@algalle2]

Driving has gotten more busy. That's about all I see.

[@alexzanderthered6694]

I grew up in utah (No hate btw) But growing up not mormon in my own experience has been lonely, no kids could ever hang out after school, no sleep overs, barely ever could play videogames with my friends online I moved into a neighborhood with another household what wasnt mormon and they became my closest friends growing up but it was a bubble, school was entirely different The mormons are fine upstanding people in my view but it is isolating. Air quality, Housing Market, construction, Drivers, even food, I do agree with those being problems

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing Alex! I know this is the experience of many, and my hope is that more and more people are more inviting and able to help make everyone feel part of something and feel welcomed

[@johngrubb5486]

My parents moved here 50 years ago for a job. I am not Mormon. I have had the exact same experience with the Mormons. Very judgemental group.

[@CindyChipman-wz5fb]

I am a member, but remember my friends feeling this. Now as an adult, I’ve witnessed my neighborhood going out of their way to include everyone. Anything that can be considered a “neighborhood” event instead of a “church” activity is branded that way. My nonmember neighbors likely feel harassed by all the invites we send. We may not always be successful, but know we are trying to be more welcoming.

[@sailingaeolus]

Had many moes tell me to stay away from their kids. Stay tough.

[@cynthiabower8558]

As a Wyomingite with family and friends in Utah, I don't ever plan to live there. As wonderful and beautiful as it is, the tax structure would be my biggest concern. I can enjoy visiting and get back to the calm and less taxed comfort (except for the wind) of Wyoming. That may be the BIGGEST reason people don't want to be in Wyoming - Wind

[@scottdsteele]

Hi Cynthia! I respect that, Wyoming is a beautiful state! If we look at total tax burden, the result is the best way to compare any state vs another. To determine the residents with the biggest tax burdens, Wallethub compared the 50 states across the three tax types of state tax burdens - property taxes, individual income taxes and sales and excise taxes - as a share of total personal income in the state. Utah came in ranked #27 @ 8.08% Wyoming came in ranked #45 @ 6.42% That's a 1.66% difference. Texas is an example that I talk to many about as well, and many believe that because they don't have income tax, it's so much cheaper to live there, but Texas came in ranked #29 @ 8.01%... nearly identical to Utah.

[@PhantomWorks01]

He’s not lying about the food. It’s absolutely terrible. Way too many chain restaurants and folks with bland taste buds. There’s not a single pizza joint that can compete with any decent pizza place.

[@scottdsteele]

The food scene here is finally just starting these last couple of years and the best variety is in SLC

[@PhantomWorks01]

@@scottdsteele I agree. Although they have a long way to go for being on par with places like Denver or San Diego. You do indeed have to go into SLC and primarily downtown, is what I’ve come to learn.

[@christopherross8358]

When I moved here 14 years ago, OMG Ketchup on tacos. BTW, worst mexician food, plenty of it though

[@scottdsteele]

You're exactly right!

[@scottdsteele]

We need some good new Mexican Restaurants here!

[@Kevinmulhalljr]

Traveled to SLC & Ste George about two dozen times while working for an airline. As a current Texan and former Oklahoman, you're not even close to the worst drivers. As for LDS, that's not on them to accept new people and the ones I've interacted with have extended me the same courtesy I've provided them. As someone that's moved quite a bit (CA, GA, OK, OH, IL and now TX) I've come to realize there's a culture to every region in the US and this whole idea of social terraforming - people trying to change their 'new home' into the one they purposefully abandoned - I find offensive. It seems the state is doing a lot right based on its economic success and low crime. Only thing that concerned me was the increasing amount of homeless in Salt Lake over the last 5-6 years

[@scottdsteele]

My favorite comment in a long long time Kevin. Thank you. I agree as well that homelessness has become a real problem and alot has happened in the last 2 years to remedy it. We currently sit at about 2,000 people experiencing homelessness and although any number is too high, SLC still ranks far, far better than most cities. Of the 25 cities in the U.S. with the highest homeless populations, New York City ranks as the worst with L.A. next followed by 12 California cities, 4 Texas cities, Las Vegas, Portland, Denver, and Seattle. I hope that we can find a way to better address homelessness in the near future that offers grace and a helping hand in addition to a path towards self reliance.

[@johnsanford3596]

Being concerned about "fitting in" is a "you problem", shades of junior high school. Seriously, I am not LDS and spent 45 years in Las Vegas before moving to Happy Valley, aka Utah Valley. No problems.

[@scottdsteele]

Very well said John!!!

[@andyxmunoz]

$3000 mortgages on townhomes that are tiny, wall to wall at $430K with $1200 quarterly HOA’s… and we have the worst income disparities among the country. Big companies know they can pay you much lower as a Utahn. Be prepared to have a couple side hustles to survive. Also, night life is super lame.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing Andy! Housing has gotten expensive...too expensive especially for wage earners

[@sailingaeolus]

In defense of Utah (which is rare for me), California by far has the biggest income disparity. See: San Francisco.

[@scottdsteele]

I agree, and we need to do something here before it gets to that point

[@takusungjung3894]

I am not mormon or from utah and the majority of mormons have been extremely good to me.They treat me better than my own ppl as a minority ..

[@scottdsteele]

That's great! I would expect and hope that this is most people's experience.

[@brandongilligan6893]

I have been in utah 9 years and the mormons in my neighborhoods have regularly and consistantly excluded my family and my kids brcause they dont know us from church. They all just pretend we are not part of the neighborhood. We have worked hard to seek out the few other non mormon families to build community. It is frustrating.

[@takusungjung3894]

@@brandongilligan6893 I understand were you are talking about because I have got lost in utah before and got kind of stranded in those neighbhorhoods and the mormons with long dresses give me this look like u dont belong here or plz dont rob me.Even though they dont know i am lost.But the truth is i would rather deal with them than deal with hoards and hoards of illegal alien mexicans comin here and destroying utah economically as well as the conservative culture here.Believe me i feel that is the least of ur worries, I also get the same looks from mormons when i play gosple christian music in my car, and they know its not LDS music. I get but i prefer deal with them than hoards of illegals that flooding utah and its starting to get really bad now especially in provo,orem, and lindon area it used to be mostly mormon now its getting mostly dirty everywhwere.There are plenty of non mormon churches u should try fellow shipping over there

[@t3fLoN77]

@@brandongilligan6893Real talk thanks Brandon

[@alexk7405]

Not sure if anyone is going to scroll down this far and read this. Accepting these 6 things was not difficult in comparison to moving out from The People's Republic of Commiefornia and have no desire to turn Utah into what I left. However, being from L.A., the only thing I do miss is being able to surf.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for the comment Alex! Beaches and Dodgers baseball ⚾️

[@BlindMarksman]

If only we had a way to allow in the genuine "refugees" while barring access to the commies. I know there are good folks from the CA trying to get away from that crap but I've also seen the state change pretty drastically over the past 20+ years as a result of all the immigration from the Left Coast and people bringing their garbage politics with them.

[@scottdsteele]

I totally understand your sentiment

[@rob10ring]

Racing home and running red lights is dangerous driving. They’re just getting away with it. We see it every day.

[@scottdsteele]

Me too

[@alaskavet8313]

Not just winter air quality. It’s bad year round. Whenever you have a high pressure weather pattern, it’s going to put a lid on that surface pollution.

[@scottdsteele]

You are totally right. I tend to talk alot about that winter inversion, but it can be poor at any point of the year especially when California or the Northwest wildfires are in full force.

[@justaoldguy8963]

As a native Californian, who moved to Utah, by way of Texas, I can tell you that I think the number one contributor to rude Utah drivers is that this state has no requirement for drivers education. If we don’t teach people how to be a courteous Driver how can you expect them to become so?

[@scottdsteele]

Very valid point sir! Do people get more training in CA or TX? My wife is from Socal, I'll ask her as well with respect to her experience

[@NathanBest]

I'm curious where this idea comes from... I'm assuming you havent raised kids here, or they arent in high school yet as Drivers Ed is required before even *applying* for a drivers license... All four of my boys had to go through it in high school with getting their permits, doing the class curriculum, tanging (closed driving course), driving with an instructor, written test, driving test... that doesn't even take into account the hours they're supposed to have with their permit... dld.utah.gov/driver-ed-15-17/

[@scottdsteele]

People comment regularly about things that they know nothing about

[@lehisilver1191]

I moved here during the pandemic from California I absolutely love Utah !!! 😎

[@scottdsteele]

Awesome! Welcome to Utah and I'm happy that you love it here

[@zacharyengh260]

Move back

[@scottdsteele]

For anyone (the vocal minority... many who comment here) who tells people to "Go" or "Move Back," I hope that you don't find yourself moving, for whatever reason, to a new place only to be treated that same way. People are going to move to new places for one of 1,000 reasons and shouldn't they be treated with respect, love, and to feel welcomed? I would hope that I spike be treated that way, wouldn't you?

[@rondavarney5377]

Moved here in 2020 and I really enjoy this state. Wish the pay was better but at least this is a better way of life.

[@scottdsteele]

Welcome!

[@JohnBullFubu]

Love how you came with statistics. The food scene needs more diversity

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks John! The food scene has drastically improved in downtown SLC, and is just starting to improve elsewhere but yes, it's needs more diversity for sure

[@twitchtwitch9006]

Ive lived in countries in europe, south america, and some states in the US. From my experience, ive not encountered as many passive aggressive and disrespectful people in such a small amount of time like i have in Utah.

[@scottdsteele]

Any experience that one person has in any given area is a very small sample of what's to be experienced and here or anywhere else, I'd recommend that if you're finding negative people, simply find a different crowd because there's so much more out there... including positive and uplifting people.

[@gcslade]

I was born in Utah and lived in other states before returning. I have found this is something in the culture here that promotes very Passive-Aggressive behavior. People here are generally friendly, but when is comes to money, driving or business, watch out!

[@GodHasThis]

To all of you who don’t like living in Utah, we’re okay with you moving to another state. The crowds have really gotten out of control here. No, I don’t attend the LDS Church, but they are all very giving and willing to be there for anyone in need!! ♥️♥️

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing!!!

[@IvanHernandez-xl3od]

i'm a Utah native & there's over-policing all over the Salt Lake valley, high prices for mediocre goods, & the liquor laws. limited liquor licenses for businesses and restaurants, liquor can only be purchased at state-approved liquor stores with limited availability for higher quality alternatives. We also rank bottom 5 for amount spent on children K-12 & it shows in our education of children. When Prop 2 was voted in (Medical Marijuana), the state legislature changed it from its original form into where you can't set fire to leaves vs lighting a cigarette. Our OWN politicians don't listen to us. Combining this with the mentioned cons in the video, mid nightlife & mediocre food (there's some good spots, but few & far between), it's hard to recommend anyone move here. The one thing we got going on for Utah is crime rate & recently, it's on the rise.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing!!!

[@calvingrondahl1011]

Born in North Dakota, I was a newspaper cartoonist in Utah for 40 years.

[@scottdsteele]

That is so cool! For the Trubune? Deseret?

[@stranger9328]

People are friendly, employment is alright, but housing is just ridiculously stupid.

[@scottdsteele]

Very fair assessment!

[@Pikachufps3]

From Utah here. Been living here my whole life when my families moved here from South America. And it’s sad and frustrating to see how bad drivers have gotten and how wild the cost of living have become.

[@scottdsteele]

I agree with you! Where did your family come from in South America?

[@Pikachufps3]

@@scottdsteele originally, it was Peru. Then they moved to Venezuela which is where my Uncle and Mom were raised and where my cousins were born and where my mom met my Stepfather who’s from Columbia. Then in the 90’s, my uncle decided to stay over there with my cousins (in 2016 the finally moved here) while my mom and my grandparents decided to move here in the US. It was in Florida that’s when my mom met my dad and got married, then moved to Hawaii. They stayed there for 3 years until my dad finally finished his military service over there, that’s when they moved to Utah. And from there, that’s when I was born and raised Utahn :).

[@jeffransom9480]

Fourth generation Utahn here. (None of us have been Mormon) LDS churches are laid out geographically. So all your LDS neighbors attend the same church. Thus everyone in the neighborhood knows who is who. This seems awkward but it's actually an advantage for us non-lds to get to make our own place in town. Plus your neighbors might be super nice to try and convert you.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for the comment Jeff! I really hope that you feel welcomed, included and treated with nothing but kindness. Everybody deserves that

[@ArtistJoshuaWeigand]

I grew up all over Wisconsin. I have lived in a few different places (SC, FL, VA) and traveled around most of the country. I moved to SLC from Wisconsin September 2023. Point 1, Utah has poor air quality (in the valley). Wisconsin has contaminated ground water. Choose your poison. Point 2, Utah has rough roads. Clearly a statement made by people who've never driven in Wisconsin. Point 3, Utah has bad drivers. Clearly a statement made by people who've never driven in Chicago (or Atlanta). Point 4, housing is expensive in Utah. Yeah, kinda hard to argue this point. It is expensive here. However, there are more opportunities here for me than any place with cheaper housing, and probably than other places with more expensive housing, so this place is still the best shot I have at doing well. Point 5, food scene in Utah. There is a lefse place here, so I'm good. Point 6, anxiety about "fitting in". Idk what to say about this point. I feel no connection to this concern. I've not fit in almost anywhere, so I've long since stopped caring about that, and yet, I have noticed that I fit in well here. Not fitting in wouldn't bother me if it were the case, but it is not the case. Utah is not without problems, but it still appears to be the best place to live. At least for me.

[@scottdsteele]

One of my favorite comments Joshua, and I thank you. I love it when people share their true experience and I hope that you love it here and feel welcomed.

[@Latter-Day-dad]

Don't move to Utah. It sucks. Nothing to see here. Move along. I hear Texas is wonderful for you.

[@scottdsteele]

I hear you!

[@gogolinhoter5696]

Yeah dude more restaurants whit shit foods from SISCO. SCAM there is not good foods on those fffffff Restaurants

[@marcussterling4954]

I really feel you should title this “6 things to accept if you move to NORTHERN Utah”, I just don’t feel these are as relevant to the St George area..

[@scottdsteele]

I agree with you 100%! I need to make that clear and do separate videos for St. George for sure

[@joanberkwitz2662]

@@scottdsteele we have moved to Enoch, just above Cedar city. The air quality so far seems to be just fine. That’s definitely a Salt Lake City thing. Our neighbors have been extremely welcoming. It’s not nearly as crowded and the scenery is absolutely beautiful. Housing cost is extremely reasonable, coming from California. We haven’t found a real downside yet, except worrying about it getting more like California with the influx of people who carry their liberal values to their new homes. As conservatives, we are thankful to be among people who feel like we do.

[@SharpeIowa]

Great video. Lived in Utah a few years back andI overall agree. One point...the roads. I've heard this all across the northern states, but countries like Sweden and Norway get lots of snow and their roads are flawless. I think it's more about build quality and deferred maintenance,.

[@scottdsteele]

You're right, in fact Sweden is even building the first ever "Electrified" Road that will power EV's too.

[@AlbinoRhino730]

The problem in Utah is the wide swings in temperature above/below freezing. As the temp warms, snow melts and water fills the cracks. As the temp drops below freezing, the water in cracks freezes and expands to make the crack worse. Roads in much colder places do much better if they don’t oscillate across 32 degrees.

[@brandih8972]

The politicians here hire their buddies to do road construction. They use cheap materials and do shoddy work, so they get another contract when the roads fall apart.

[@dorsal87]

From the Central Valley of California it’s cute you think your air is bad. Not saying it’s perfect but I’ll take it over the Central Valley.

[@scottdsteele]

I totally understand! We do have some days on some years where we have some of the worst air in the world but it luckily doesn't stick around for long!

[@leeannott498]

I live in Sandy, Utah. I have wonderful neighbors and my family and I are not LDS. It has its challenges like any place but over all we love it here. I’m a Christian and attend a wonderful church.

[@scottdsteele]

That's awesome! I love that you've found a home this beautiful place.

[@rebekahgoss4985]

On main Street is a great place for foodies. You can park your car unlock and walk away. The festival of colors in the batist temple is amazing.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for the tips!

[@mattstachelek3410]

Moved to Clearfield from Seattle area 2 and a half years ago. Everything you say seems to be spot on! Though with influx of Californians and people like me the last year in particular. It's sort of turning into another left coast state. In five years probably identical.

[@scottdsteele]

Welcome to Utah!! What do you mean by left coast state?

[@outlawsix1322]

The thing that pisses me off about the housing market in utah, is that there is no job that pays six figures in the state so many of the younger residents will never be able to purchase a house in the state.

[@scottdsteele]

And rightfully so... it is beyond frustrating. We've got to make tangible and swift changes in order for young people to afford getting into a home.

[@howebrad4601]

Just did a trip from nd to az, ca, ut, id, mt. Drivers on utah freeways were the most sane and courteous put of az, ca, or ut. Roads were the best too. Not much traffic in id, mt, or nd to gauge freeway behavior. Utah freeways flowed nice and people consistently used their signals.

[@scottdsteele]

Interesting, thanks for sharing!!!

[@222Wanderlust]

Utah is not the Wasatch Front. There are plenty of other incredible places with pristine air quality.

[@scottdsteele]

You are exactly correct. While 2.8 Million of Utah's residents (82%) do live along the Wasatch Front, there are so many other places to enjoy

[@swinn848]

I live at the Uinta basin. I dislike that we are paying for this new bus system construction that no one rides except for homeless people on fentanyl or spice. Keep your problems in SLC don’t give them a free ride to my neighborhood on my tax dollars

[@scottdsteele]

I love and share your passion as well to have our dollars spent wisely and with prudence and a stiff sense of stewardship.

[@swinn848]

I wish that was the case brother and I think we need to keep the Olympics and this professional Baseball team out of here. We live in a treasure.

[@fullcircleessentials]

SLC was once that place but it has gone down in certain areas ijs. The younger generation has taken over and don't have a clue. The infrastructure is beautiful but it's some of the people that have taken away from SLC over the years.

[@scottdsteele]

We certainly do! I actually do want the Olympics and the baseball team myself but I totally get your perspective as well

[@scottdsteele]

I hear you!

[@salemthorup9536]

I'm a Utah native, but this seems like a very true and fair assessment of the state. I've lived outside Utah as well. But you did great on this.

[@scottdsteele]

Thank you so much!

[@NAPP3R]

I’ve lived in Salt Lake for 19 years. I’d put housing affordability at #1, it’s impossible for a single person to buy anything or even rent by themselves. It seems like everyone is renting rooms in their homes or needing roommates. The church running the state would be #2, they should have no say in anything but they are one of the most wealthy establishments in the country. Every state around Utah has stuff like the lottery, gambling, alcohol in stores other than liquor stores, legalized marijuana or even an NFL team, amongst a list of other things but since the church doesn’t allow that it can’t be here(even though there’s almost more non LDS people here now than LDS). And yes the never ending road construction is #3 for sure. But these are just my opinion.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing! We are absolutely a very different place and it's not for everyone here for sure.

[@johnmaddock256]

I lived in Sandy Utah for 10 years. It was enjoyable, but when the Olympics were headed to SLC, I had to leave. I knew the exposure after the Olympics would have a major impact on the area

[@scottdsteele]

And it has grown tremendously since 2002 and the next Olympic Games here look like will happen in 2034

[@josephfong552]

5:44 my opinion why the drivers are so rude: driving is the epitome of personal freedom. And, our roads change # of lanes without warning, 2 to 1 or 3 to 2, etc.

[@scottdsteele]

Interesting take!

[@pwoeckener]

I visited Utah some 30 years ago, for a vitamin company seminar (Solaray), and had a wonderful time. Coming from Florida, the climate was what struck me as such a positive. The dry air out west is a refreshing change from the humidity we get here in swampy Florida (yes, the whole state might as well be a muggy swamp). As someone who is about a decade from Social Security and retirement, I am definitely looking for somewhere else to retire in, and Utah has always been in the back of my mind from that trip 30 years ago. With regards to the LDS, Utah is their state. If you move to Utah and can't handle Mormons, then that is your problem, not theirs. And frankly, I'd rather live amongst Mormons, who are among the most clean, happy, polite and safe people to be around, versus living in some huge city anywhere else where you are literally in fear for your life just taking public transportation (yeah, I'm looking at you NYC). Housing prices are probably the first factor I look at when considering going anywhere else. Because when you have a home with no mortgage, and all you pay are property taxes, I will only consider locations where I can find affordable housing, and lower property taxes (and lower insurance rates). So for those reasons Utah would not be considered.

[@scottdsteele]

Excellent comment! Thank you!

[@sailingaeolus]

I live in a tent when I travel (no joke). Keeps housing affordable.

[@scottdsteele]

That's awesome!

[@weinowei143]

LDS peeps are nice people... not sure if that is a problem. Missionary knocking on our doors might be annoying, but they stop after they learn that there's no way of turning this guy...

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for the comment!

[@cindyjensen3037]

One good reason to not move here is too many apartment building especially in Ogden you can't swing rope without hitting one, I've lived here my whole 62 years of life and the re-gentrification out of control. We have a lot of low income folks and elderly here and now it's hurt them really a lot , high property taxes , not enough water, nothing fun to do if you're broke

[@scottdsteele]

I'm sorry Cindy! I know that Ogden is really growing and it's likely not how some want it, and I completely understand the high cost of living as well

[@JeffReams]

I bought a house in Salt Lake City (Holladay) in 2018 and the price that I bought it for has doubled. If I had to buy the house now, I couldn’t afford it.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for the comment Jeff! You're right, housing affordability here is now a crisis

[@pchound5962]

Moved here in 1999. The housing was way more affordable then.

[@scottdsteele]

Awesome, where from?

[@victormostacero9425]

I think people just like complaining. I live in San Diego right. Im renting a room. NOT an apartment. A ROOM. its $1200. I looked at studios in salt lake and ive seen places in utah for $700 for a one bedroom. That sounds like heaven to me.

[@scottdsteele]

It's all a matter of perspective for sure, and I also understand how difficult it is to see our prices shoot up like they have

[@kaelanime7750]

Born and raised here. Too many people are coming here.

[@scottdsteele]

It's hard to see your home town grow so much, isn't it?

[@kaelanime7750]

@@scottdsteele yeah

[@scottdsteele]

I get it

[@theeard]

Good Video. Seattle Transplant, but have been in Utah longer than King County. As far as the driving is concerned, maybe it is rude, but I generally think it is just cluelessness. Though when I do go home, I'm surprised people actually let you on the freeways, etc. so you may have a valid point. I guess you just get used to it. Housing prices (all - rentals, condos, homes, etc.) are insane! Friends have sold homes here and then saved money paying cash for new homes in California! (No, not Los Angeles, but CA is a mighty big place). "Fitting in" is an interesting subject. I don't see that as a Utah phenomenon. Having lived in NC where you were blackballed for not being Baptist - of course that was in early 70s. Personal Big Concern - yes, they just keep building more and more everything. Houses, apartments, stores, businesses - particularly Tech here on Silicone Slopes, BUT they have yet to create more Water. Utah is a desert state. Some parts may seem pretty green, but there is not really enough water for the continual expansion. Again, Great Video!

[@scottdsteele]

Thank you SO much for your thoughtful comment!

[@HeroBear_Gaymer]

Plenty of options to move to if you hate utah. You can migrate to europe or mexico or some place else. There ya go. Now pack ur bags n enjoy

[@scottdsteele]

You're exactly right Hero...I love it here

[@number1dutchkid]

Utah rates number one in tickets given over 100 miles an hour. It also rates number one per capita in road rage. These were just released in the winter 23/24.

[@fullcircleessentials]

Don't forget the rise in homeless.

[@scottdsteele]

I don't doubt this at all! Thank you for sharing!!

[@scottdsteele]

It has risen

[@scottdsteele]

Agreed

[@fullcircleessentials]

@scottdsteele Welcome!.....I have a great time when I'm in town (downtown) with plenty to do but it's something u can't miss or ignore.

[@WhiteWizard44]

I remember reading somewhere that many people from air polluted cities decided against Utah due to the pollution being worse than the city they were in. And what about the people who move out there for the skiing? Can you imagine the increase in traffic jams, crowded slopes and lift lines?

[@scottdsteele]

Yes, Utah isn't for everyone... and nowhere is, and Utah is growing and will continue to do so.

[@stevenparkin6486]

Talk about population growth in the Heber area. Google shows it to be "near" Park City but not quite. Is it an employment center, or a housing/residence place, or a recreational place, or a combination of those? Are any large employers in Heber such as Amazon, Adobe, Microsoft, any tech startups, light or heavy manufacturing, other businesses? Is the Heber area government/public land, held for recreational or watershed uses only or is it mainly private land, open to development for housing, commercial, or industrial uses? I'd love to see and hear a video about Heber and a 30-mile radius around it.

[@scottdsteele]

Ok Steven, you've got me absolutely sold on doing a video all about Heber. I'll have this done over the next couple of weeks for you and everyone else

[@peezytheproducer116]

As someone who has lived in Utah their whole life as well id have to say the worst thing about to Utah has to be the housing 💯🤦🏻‍♂️ when I moved in my apartment 4 years ago the rent was $1200 now I pay $1800, another thing is our liquor laws are strict you can only buy liquor Monday through Saturday at designated liquor stores and bars don’t do doubles also. The weather here is very bipolar one day it’s beautiful and sunny the next day it’s freezing snowing other than that I really love Utah if you love being outdoors and hiking/camping and or fishing Utah is the place for you! there are so many canyons lakes rivers creeks and reservoirs to explore and are absolutely beautiful, skiing is amazing here as well and the food is great so many places to try here 💯

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks Peezy! Great comment and thank you for sharing your opinions

[@Lummyroo]

Utah native here everything checks out 😂

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for watching!!

[@brannonburton5494]

Luckily the inversion problem is usually short lived. It is gross when it happens though. Living higher up on the West side seems to help quite a bit.

[@scottdsteele]

I lived up at the Cove @ Herriman Springs for years and it was actually above the inversion. Great point!

[@GEK0dev]

For me its people who are inept at turning on their turn signals, Brother TURN YOUR SIGNAL ON ITS THE LAW

[@scottdsteele]

No joke!

[@eternalbookwyrm9481]

I've had problems getting a job in Utah after moving from Idaho. A lot of businesses see that I'm not from Utah and didn't think I would stay so didn't hire me. Ive now been here almost 4 years, luckily I found a job.

[@scottdsteele]

Well that's good that you have found a job now!

[@chrislovell7448]

SLC resident here, I agree with this list. In terms of food, it's not a great scene and the service has been the worst I've seen anywhere so bad I gave up on eating out around here.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Camposjimenez76]

They all dress the same … cookie cutters

[@scottdsteele]

I totally get it!

[@dwb131313]

Welcome to Utah everyone, now please go home.

[@scottdsteele]

I hear you

[@goavs8372]

Good job with the video. My sister lived in Salt Lake City for over 10 years, so I visited her at least twice a year during that timeframe. I agree with your list except for two things. 1) It is true, Salt Lake City does have the worst drivers, and I have been to 90% of all the states. I've noticed more people NOT use their blinker when merging more on Utah highways than anywhere else. There's no statistic that can show this type of behavior unless it involves an accident. 2) The LDS church DOES impact those local communities more than you give them credit for. My sister kept complaining to me how she kept being judged by everyone in her office because she wasn't Mormon. It's not that these people are bad, it's that the church instills fear in their teachings to their members, which forces those folks to be 'unwelcoming' to others who are not a part of their faith. Outside of those two items, your video was spot on!

[@scottdsteele]

I love your comments! I completely agree with you that our drivers are the worst, and that simply does not show up in the data because "Rude" just doesn't have a statistic. Also, I do agree that culture affects every aspect of the community and as a licensed real estate agent and the fair housing act, I cannot talk about many things with respect to religion among many other things but i do completely agree with you. Things have changed so much in a very short number of years recently, but it only takes a very small minority of any group to be the ones who spoil the experience for others and results in that entire group being represented in that same light and I completely see both sides of this every single day. Thank you so much for that perspective because this is exactly what is needed... more open conversation around more people's experiences.

[@cablenewsfanatic5634]

Unwelcoming? Now you know how conservatives feel when they have work in San Diego, LA, SF, NY, and are subjected to Trump bashing all day long and told to put up with it or get out. As a blue state refugee to Utah, one really doesn't have it that bad in comparison.

[@fearlessbryan]

Completely disagree that the Church “instills fear”. From my experience the Church does the opposite by instilling love.

[@MichaelDavis-cy4ok]

There's a difference between the "church culture" coming down from leadership and the "church culture" on the ground in the community, as well as in social subgroups. I grew up mostly in California, and came to Utah as an adult. I belong to the local predominant religion. In California I had a lot of good friends who simply treated me the way I treated them, and then I encountered people who simply heard that I was religious and assumed I was a hateful bigot; I even encountered people actively spreading lies about my religion in California. Here in Utah I've been part of wards (the local religious unit of the church) where I got along with my neighbors; I've been in other wards where they drove me crazy; I've been in others that were judgmental and unaccepting. There's every level of income, there's blue collar and white collar, there are well-to-do and affluent as well as poor and everything in between. It can be kind of a crap shoot when it comes to what you're going to get. I'll say this: most times when you come into an office, there's an established culture in place, and you're the new guy who has to assimilate; that's never a fun position to be in. Utah has no monopoly when it comes to backstabby and judgmental office politics.

[@TheGBSI]

Living in Utah, happy if you drive on by. Have a great day!

[@scottdsteele]

I get it

[@rodneybever9583]

I think i miss rain like it was in the mid west. The storms that last a day and thunder rattling the windows. I miss the rain more than anything.

[@scottdsteele]

I totally understand! I love those storms and maybe it's because we rarely get them here

[@lilacsilver]

The perspective of who has the worst drivers is definitely subjective. Las Vegas was scary, with pedestrians getting run over often.

[@scottdsteele]

That is really scary!

[@RioEin]

Learning how to chop and treat a tree, turn it into planks and frames for building, make and cook bricks from digging up a river, mining into a mountain to get copper and iron, make a forge with bellows, realize you need leather/fabric for that hunt/grow some, grind down bones to make a natural glue paste, work the land and flatten out a foundation, build a house because it's cheaper. Rents only 1650$ and if i want sewer ill need to give up my first born.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing!

[@_haneda]

As someone who has lived in Utah in the past, (currently in Japan), the social environment is actually one of the best out of all the states I have been to. With the rapid decline of California, Utah is picking up the pieces, everything is more expensive, people are more toxic...the overall experience is wasted with this occurring event. Apart from this, Utah is a great state, one of the best. For people who like warmer climates, St. George offers the best scenery. Anywhere north of Utah is much much colder. And for the religious community that is prominent within the state, it has helped Utah stay in a friendly environment.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for your comment! Hopefully you'll come back at least to visit too

[@wallylosangeles4155]

I'm originally from Southern California Long Beach/Los Angeles but also Lived in New Jersey next to New York City before relocating to Utah many years ago!!. Be thankful that at least you don't Live in the States where I have Lived where it's more Expensive there than it is in Utah!!. But I do know that in Big Cities like SLC the Prices for both Rent and Houses are going Up unfortunately!!. Nice Simple Video Scott!!😀👍

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing Wally! I appreciate your feedback and comments so much!

[@wallylosangeles4155]

@@scottdsteele : Your Welcome Scott!!😀👍👋

[@erickoch6665]

I am from Pennsylvania and have been in vernal utah and herriman Utah for 10 years now.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks Eric! What is your experience here? Do you like it?

[@dirkwhoward]

As a lifelong Utahn, this video is a fair assessment of the cons of Utah life. If you are a "glass half full" type, you will enjoy joy Utah life. If you are a "glass half empty" type, Utah will drive you crazy.

[@scottdsteele]

Bingo, well said

[@petersolstad673]

I bought a house all the way across the Country because our housing prices are SOOO RIDICULOUS!!!!!! I bought a fully remodled 1bed 1bath, 1.7acre, fresh water creek runs threw the backyard, 5min walk to the Lake, rual small town Northern Maine. 87k$ for all that ! Maine is the place to go if your looking to relocate.

[@scottdsteele]

Our housing prices have gone crazy and it's not good for our future generations

[@rootbeer4492]

I was born and raised in Salt Lake City and this is 100% correct in my opinion, maybe not in the same order of priority.

[@scottdsteele]

Awesome, thanks for sharing!

[@FBOConcrete]

Born and raised in norther utah. Stop moving here we are growing to big to fast. It used to be great, I can hardly go enjoy the outdoors any more. Like camping fishing shooting. You go up in the mountains to get away, now it's like going to a over crowded event.

[@scottdsteele]

You're not wrong, and it's going to continue to get more and more crowded

[@RobertPierce-yg4ud]

Don’t move to Utah it’s horrible! The snow and the people are horrible! In n Out isn’t even that good! Move to Colorado or California!

[@scottdsteele]

I don't understand how the snow is horrible? Millions of people come here each year for that very reason... the snow. Also, compared to most of the cities in the East or Midwest, our snow here in Salt Lake City along with the climate is a walk in the park comparatively. Also, I don't think it's valid to say that the people in any city are horrible... there are both good and bad people in every single town and city in this world and with a positive and helpful perspective, you'll find the best in both people and a place, including Salt Lake City Utah

[@MichaelRobertt]

@@scottdsteele He was being sarcastic.

[@cablenewsfanatic5634]

@@MichaelRobertt I'm normally not a fan of sarcasm but in this particular case, long live sarcasm!

[@BenSuzuki]

Yeah don't move to Utah! We'll stay behind and "suffer" for yall.

[@greg4795]

I wish people would stop moving to Utah. not being sarcastic. it was much much better here 40 years ago. oh well.

[@Aoteman87]

I am Chinese and have never been to the United States, but I love Utah and hope to visit it sometime. But my English is not very good and I can only communicate simply

[@scottdsteele]

It's worth the visit!

[@vagabondjay7281]

Vouch on the driving issue. TN here. Nothing like the cut offs and wanting to do 15+ over on the speed limits. Maybe it's that age thing. These boys testicles still haven't dropped yet. But I'm doing 9 over the speed limit which is a 50/50 on the cops pulling me over for vs the +11 over the speed limit which they will 100% pull you over for, but these people want that speeding ticket *smh* Meet them on the street, at a bar, at a restaurant. Nice people!. Once they get in the car though, they all try to become Dale Earnhart *smh*

[@scottdsteele]

This is pretty funny

[@cloudymaro]

Im stationed in northern Utah, and have been for 4 years. Coming from SoCal, the weather here is atrocious. Im in a sweater 90% of year, even during summer. Too cold for me. Plus like others have said, its way too damn expensive here. Couldnt think of myself living here longer than I have to. Edit: no gambling, no powerball, strict and intrusive alcohol laws, snowing in JULY. LOL. I could go on forever about how much this state actually sucks. Only GOOD thing about is it is the safest place ive ever traveled to and the 2nd amendment is semi respected, for now.

[@scottdsteele]

I can understand your weather thing and being cold, my wife is from SoCal and is cold very easily as well. However, snow in July? That has only happened up above us, not down here where most of the people live.

[@duaneyoutbe]

His first reason is about Salt Lake City, a small portion of Utah. Maybe he should take the word UTAH out of the title.

[@scottdsteele]

Good point!

[@albertc2390]

The food really does suck here. He is right, in that, a lot of restaurants pop up BUT same flavor.

[@scottdsteele]

Agreed

[@scottcummings8074]

Im not s city person, but have wondered about utah. How are land prices in the mountains away from town. I now have neighbors a mile away, and see people on the weekends. I live in The high rockies, but its getting hard to find a place without pavement and people all over.colorado, Montana, and idaho are to crowded. I wish i stayed in Alaske, but was to young in the 80s, and my kids are in the lower 48. Been thinking about utah and parts of Nevada, but there isnt really anything wild anymore where people wont come bother you and try to have rules and regulations. Right now, 50 miles to town is way to close. I thought i found a good place, but covid changed everything. Now there are so many people camping on the weekends you cant drive 15 miles without seeing someone.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing Scott! There are few places here within a reasonable price point and proximity to the cities, while still maintaining that seclusion that you're looking for. You'll have to be a couple of hours away likely

[@bryguyh9499]

:Music scene not good. Concert goers must see big names on week nights (unless country bands).They choose Denver or Las Vegas on weekends. :-(

[@scottdsteele]

Agreed, but I can't blame them

[@elktrip2000]

I moved here hoping I’d fit in and my neighbors have been great, but I have experience the good ole boy stuff while job hunting. They do hook up fellow members over nonmembers. That’s been my experience at least. I hope that’s changing.

[@scottdsteele]

I absolutely hope that's changing as well!

[@mikespencer237]

It won't, they only want their kind.

[@scottdsteele]

Well that's what you will find to be true then. Focus on negativity and that's precisely what you'll find more of

[@mikespencer237]

@@scottdsteele Your reply shows 1 or more of the following 3 things: Either you are "In the club", ignorant, or you don't live here.

[@scottdsteele]

Negativety and victimhood on display

[@jonmceachran9514]

Utah is an amazing state. The biggest reason I never plan to move there is the traffic. They are a victim of their own success. Their growing economy is great, but that growth makes for terrible traffic. Rural Utah would be nice though

[@scottdsteele]

I understand! It is all relative as well, SLC has far better traffic and commute times than most every other city of comparable or larger size, but of course it's much worse than it used to be

[@connorseaks7046]

I’ve lived in Salt Lake for 3 years and if you come from a big city then you will think the food is terrible. Only those who grew up/lived most of their lives here don’t realize how bad it is.

[@scottdsteele]

That's fair to say Connor!

[@lysanderxx1664]

I think this is very misleading. People outside of Utah who move here rarely think it has the worst air quality, that the predominant religion is evil, or that the economy is bad. Saying "you need to be okay with this to move here" is a misnomer because people who don't live here because those things simply aren't things they've thought about. All the things in this video are mostly only opinions of people who have lived here their whole lives. Go ask the many Californians who continue to move here and ask they what they like and don't like.

[@scottdsteele]

Hi! Thanks for the comment! I actually do speak with and work with people moving here every single day. 1 out of every 5 is coming from California as well. This isn't misleading whatsoever, I've done my research (every 1 minute of video is literally 1 hour of work including research, planning, filming, editing and posting) and I've researched the precise keywords that are most often searched by people from outside of Utah (ie, those moving here) and Air Quality absolutely tops the list. To your other points, never did I say the economy is bad???? We have the best or top 5 economy in the nation year in and year out. Listen to this video again, or any of my videos and you'll hear this over and over and over again. Also, where did I say that the predominant religion here is evil???? I'm not sure that you actually listened to the video, or any of my videos because that has never and would never even cross my mind, let alone my lips. I've been incredibly blessed from my faith in so many ways including being able to communicate better and even do so in Spanish fluently as well. Maybe you could rewatch this video with a different perspective.

[@JohnTovar-ks8dp]

I've never seen people having trouble driving in Texas. It's probably only dangerous because people speed. One group drives around 70mph, another 80mph, and another 90 mph.

[@scottdsteele]

That sounds about like everywhere else

[@KeenanKelsey]

I moved to Utah back in mid 2016 from Los Angeles. I lived in Lehi first and then moved to Downtown SLC(I’m a city boy 🤷🏿‍♂️) I think people in Utah don’t understand the unwritten rules of driving on the freeway. In LA everyone drives like pissed off teenagers but it’s organized chaos. 🤣 The food scene has boomed since 2020. Location is important though for survival. Most fizzle out about 1.5-2years of operation. I discovered golf in Utah and the quality and price is great in northern Utah. 😂 Going out for drinks in Utah is a whole other story….

[@scottdsteele]

I love this comment! Thank you so much for sharing!

[@herbienbrian2]

The traffic is horrendus and I moved here from LA! It mostly seems to be due to the idiotic accident response people that block off the whole freeway instead of pushing all of it off the road onto the shoulder like LA does.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing!

[@taylorpatterson8845]

I visit over the summer. Beautiful state. But I'm in the middle of nowhere (Hanna). Food sucks, gotta drive an hour and a half for groceries, smell of manure 24/7, can't order a double in a bar but can order a many singles as I want, and the people are weird. Great place to be a hermit in the mountains though

[@scottdsteele]

That's what you'll find in very rural small towns, it's very different in the cities though.

[@MrAceman60]

The air is bad there days I can’t even walk outside! However, one is just as equally warm partner and just as important as air is water being a former contractor from the state of California and landscape C 27 Water is your second biggest if not the biggest issue that you’re going to face in the future , i’ll explain most of your water comes from snowfall bad snowfall lack of rain goes to drought. The last real drought there were towns they just flat ran out of water. Being contractor, I watched the exact same mistake that Utah is doing now. We had a housing in California in the town of Chico, California it was first to the fifth for many years of being the best town in the United States. What happened though is this, we had massive 10:38 construction we started to build and build to accompany the massive amount of people coming into Chico we gave up our green line and kept moving and kept moving and it farther and farther moving until we eliminated a good portion of almonds and nut trees and fruit trees, which are very productive in that state! 10:38 10:38 We built and built until we built ourselves right out of them the abundance of water with heavier droughts that plagued California. The same thing is gonna happen to Utah. Nothing much you can do about. In being politically active in the state, I mentioned the exact same problem and the solution in California will be basically the same one that you’re going to get the next drought, California pass legislation limiting individuals to 55 gallons of water per person a day and 150 per family. Some liked the idea some did not. I now live in Idaho Sold my house high and buying low here. Good luck everything I’ve said I’ve researched and you’re welcome to contact me and we can talk about that if you’d like Pease.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for your thoughtful comment! It will be very interesting to see how everything plays out that you've described including water

[@TomTom9290]

Nice try in doing your part to keep outsiders, especially Californian out of Utah.

[@scottdsteele]

I'm not doing or pretending to try to keep anyone out. People in America are free to move as they so chose and it's nobody's place to tell anyone that they can't move here. Utah is an amazing place and for that reason, people chose to move here. Also, only 18% of those moving here are from California and every Californian that I've served has moved here because they are attracted to our way of life here and they have that right to move here.

[@annevanderlaan6441]

Texas has thee best food of places I have ever lived. 🎉

[@scottdsteele]

I agree, Texas does have some good food 💥

[@twistedasylum8579]

I have lived in Utah my whole life (48yrs) and without a doubt, the drivers are the absolute worst thing about Utah! Followed by the alcohol and cannabis laws. I believe the church plays a big role in that as well so the last thing I hate about Utah is the church. Don’t get that confused with the members of the church because you have some really understanding and good members but as a whole it feels that there is no separation between church and state. Other than that Utah is AMAZING! So diversity in not only geography but with people as well, and that makes up for a lot of the down sides of Utah.

[@scottdsteele]

Thanks for sharing!!!

[@supergluehotty]

Religion can't be over stated. If your LDS in California vs LDS in Utah its a strange change of everything. So many people out of the Arizona Utah Idaho bubble get put off by how it feels in Utah.

[@scottdsteele]

That's quickly become an aged and obsolete narrative at this point, with the exception of some small parts of specific neighborhoods.

[@insanitysreign6195]

Born and raised Utahn, 24, Drivers I completely understand, the food as well (Local flavors get very creative), housing is abysmal in the Valley, I'm living with friends atm, but we're seriously thinking of moving out of the county. It's cheaper, it's got great growth opportunities, the only real difficulty is the fact that most of us have lived in the same area for well over a decade each. Same city, different spots. We'd be leaving where we consider home. I love the Valley's sunrises and sunsets like no other, the low hanging clouds of spring, the fairytale-like snow as the city lights flicker through the coming storm. It's just becoming too expensive to stay in the valley long term. Much love, Scott!

[@scottdsteele]

Very well thought out comment! I thank you for watching and sharing, it means the world to me