Stop Dropping Tiny Screws And Get A Screw Starter

[@TorqueTestChannel]

If I stopped dropping screws and bolts, especially into engine bays, what would I even do with an extra 3 hours a day to burn?

[@trailblazer632]

Or that massive collection of magnets with extendo reach or curly soft wire or all those different finger grabber things😂

[@Para-Phrase]

Search and Rescue 10mm sockets!

[@SomeGuysGarage]

Oh idk, maybe test the torque of some impact wrenches or something? Would make an interesting channel on KZbin lol

[@FunkFPV]

Haha The worst is when you don’t hear it hot the ground 😢

[@StonemanRocks]

O so youre the one!

[@qurqo]

I have never seen anyone use these. Would have saved lot of frustration over the years. Will get one. Thanks.

[@MyBiPolarBearMax]

Literally everything I just thought lol

[@markm0000]

I wasted so much time trying to find a tiny screw that I lost in a controller box because it could have destroyed something. I gave up and found a replacement. Hopefully that didn’t cause any issues but I’ll never know. After this video I immediately ordered one of these.

[@Justadadandmore]

I'm 40yo and my dad had one on the window sill far back as I can remember. When I moved out I bought my own. I've probably used that tool a total of 20 or 30 times in my life, but every single time I did I don't know what the hell I would have done without it.

[@bigd2203snuffy]

These things save the day when you need them. My grandpa had a set of "Quick-Wedge" holders like the Klein one. Red handles and some were green. Dad used them and passed them to me. The company used to be in Salt Lake City Utah.

[@robertrusso8452]

Hey Wes...back in the early 70's I was turning wrenches and that tool was an absolute necessity to install points and condenser on a V8 Chevy. I still have mine and it is over 50 years old and works like the day I bought it.

[@stephenrickstrew7237]

I tried 5 times to set the points on a VW Beetle … that’s when I knew I wasn’t cut out to work on those things ..maybe a starter would have helped

[@felinespirits]

Every time I watch a video where the guy is working on classic car points, it amazes me that they don't have a screw starter, lol.

[@bryanteaston7264]

I have one made by Mac that was included with a tool set I got in 1976 when I went to Diesel school. I only remember using it on points and condensers, but it was nearly a necessity for that.

[@FunkFPV]

I am the last generation to know how to adjust points. They were basically gone when I started wrenching but I’d still see them on old stuff. That’s why the old guys always kept a matchbook in their toolbox 😎👍🏻

[@stephenrickstrew7237]

@@FunkFPV Remember a Dwell Meter ..?

[@17Liberty76]

This was great. My dad passed before I learned what these were and I inherited his. I always just stuck the screw through a small piece of tape & then up the shaft of the driver. It'll be nice taking advantage of something I've had for years

[@JoeTheDIY]

My Father failed. He never told me these exist. Now i am finally prepared to curtail the bad language.

[@markfergerson2145]

No. You are still required to curse at least once when you find out that you can’t start the screw by hand. Only then may you go get the screw starter.

[@ryand8024]

I'm an electrician and the Klein i picked up a few yrs ago...life saver

[@MicahBurginGTVPO]

One of those absolute gems I learned from an older gentleman I worked for for about a year was the holding screwdriver. When you're elbows deep in a 480v deathtrap the last thing you want is the pachinko of doom. they won't tell you but that is THE screwdriver for pulling panel screws live, especially when the machinery predates safety and they didn't spring for the plastic dividers between phases that actually stick out far enough to keep a screw from doing the right gymnastics for an arc flash! All that to say the klein style is for sparkies, the ones you showed seem to be targeted more at mechanics? Anyway I'm off to buy the kleins because I could never find a good one after my last boss showed them to me!

[@bennyfactor]

wish youtube would have shown this to me last week when I dropped half a dozen tiny screws behind a corner cabinet, never to be retrieved, while putting in a outlet cover plate. Ingenious!

[@oldbones3092]

I bought one of the Craftsman screw starters in 1975. I needed it for my job on an assembly line. Only worked in the factory for a year, but still have, and use, the starter. I farm, and fix a lot of my own machinery, so I use it often.

[@blazeandcyrus]

I got one years ago and what a great tool. Yep it sits in the tool drawer for the most part but when you need it, you got it!

[@MitchRuth]

I’m a piano technician, my screw starter is in my first row of tools, your craftsman starter is like the one I use. I have to maneuver screws through the piano action to the flange that holds the hammers. Magnetic tips won’t hold the screw well enough for me to place and start the screw. The magnetic tip on the other side gets used a lot too. But it has to be a slim tool to work through the action mechanism so the Kleins wouldn’t work for me, the sleeve and the handle wouldn’t allow me clearance to get in.

[@lambodp]

Been wanting something like this for years and never knew they existed. Just bought both sets as I'm sure they'll both serve different uses around the house and shop. Thanks for sharing these products!

[@rhouser1280]

I usually use the sliding one that expands the tip but have the twist one in my tool bag. I’m on lunch break but was using one right before & going right back to it after. Must have for an electrician

[@uncralph4354]

Bought mine in the late 60s, parts salesman showed us and we both bought one of each, like you say, not an everyday tool but mine have been used hundreds if not thousand times. Especially doing auto electrical and now starting motherboard hold down screws

[@acewrench]

Nice comparison. I have owned a screw starter for 30+ years that looks like your original Stanley, but it is 9.5 inches long and was made by the Ullman Devices Corp. in Ridgefield, Connecticut. Part number D-3

[@BobVogel-t1u]

I've had mine since the 1970s when I worked at The Foxboro Company. Those were actually a third variety that drives a wedge between two thin blades, to wedge in the screw. Yes, when you need them, you really appreciate them. .

[@timothylynch1380]

Thank you for reminding me I have a bunch of the old school versions in my dad’s old tool chest! He had them when I was a kid in the 70s used them into the 2000s when he quit tinkering with small components.

[@willsmith8576]

I find these super handy when you need them. I inherited a SnapOn one from my dad when he passed.

[@patrickdiehl6813]

I have used both styles of screw starters over 40 years of wrenching and electrical work, I think the first spring loaded one I had was a General tool brand. I inherited a spring loaded one from my father and it's probably from the 50's or 60's, it has a wooden handle. Always a greif saver in tight spaces👍

[@petermccuskey1832]

Love you now Klien is going to get another sale thanks to you.

[@ForfeMac]

Yeah, I first learned about these things 15, maybe 20 years ago and they've been a lifesaver. When I remember that they're in my tool box, that is. Makes you wonder how many other tools are out there that would make your life 100x easier and yet you don't even know they exist.

[@paulputnam2305]

Thanks for this informative information. I remember my dad had one of those wedgie type a long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Thanks for the memories. Now i won’t hate those tiny screws anymore. I’m also blessed with meat hooks with minimal feeling and dexterity left.

[@commandoconstruction2720]

Thank you for video. Nicely filmed.! Sometimes if I have to start a longer drywall screw, and it keeps falling off, I mash some joint compound into the screw head. Works every time. For stainless and brass fasteners, also.

[@cressmerrill7280]

Had a couple for 60 years, yes I am old and I bought it to start the screw that holds points in the distributor. I have one for phillips as well.

[@MarzNet256]

Cool. Koken makes Nut-Grip sockets that do the same thing for nuts and bolts using mechanical retention (works on all materials). No more fasteners falling into the engine bay abyss.

[@FunkFPV]

I’m going to look into that 👍🏻

[@Yonni6502]

I got introduced to the Klein style by a technician in Colorado in 2017. OMG these are a game changer! I love that style!

[@evan12697]

i got a set from Tekton and man i have no idea how i lived without them before. Dont use them every day but theyre worth their weight in gold

[@z0mb13h0rd3]

The second style I had a set I inherited from my grandfather around 1982 and they were already old. So they’ve been around for a minute.

[@danielkingshott2659]

dude life saver! meaty hands, left handed ness and a messed up arm leads to very little fine motor control I struggle massively with small screws

[@mysss29]

My eyes lit up as soon as you mentioned computers. I just built my first one last year and the amount of dropped screws was ridiculous. That put me from maybe to definitely picking one of these up! As for magnetic components, tapes, ZIP drives, and floppy discs were vulnerable, but the only magnetic thing left is spinning hard drives, which you probably don't even have anymore unless you've added a big one for extra storage.

[@philscott7949]

Thanks so much for the tutorial. I had a split blade driver years ago and was told "the twisting action is what grips the screw". It never worked well, not realizing the purpose of the sleeve.

[@darkindy]

God bless you for this. I had some of these in a kit, and had no idea what it was used for. I thought it was a security bit driver. Now I need to remember where I stashed it.

[@solidsnek4232]

I had a massive CAC installation on a few years ago and this would have saved my fingers. My toolbox thanks your Funk.

[@Slugbunny]

Added another one to the shopping list. 📝 Ceiling fixtures come to mind as the thing where one of these would save the day.

[@kindyrpenumbra7170]

I had never seen these. ordered a NOS craftsman off ebay, and will probably pick up the Klein next time I'm in Lowes. Thank you for the information

[@Chevyv8man1]

Back in the late 70s to the 90s (yes I know I'm ole) I worked in a foundry smelting Aluminum and I had 5' X 5' boxes of the aluminum screw holders come in for me to melt down for scrap. I must of had a couple of hundred of them at home and gave them away to all my friends. I only have 4 of them left now and wish I didn't give all of them away. I had like 12 different length and styles of them at one time but most have broke or grown legs some how. lol If you oil them up and keep them clean they work great for a long time. Thanks for showing this as it brought back some bad memories of that job. lol - later

[@jameshaulenbeek5931]

I inherited one of those in an old toolbox from my grandfather. I can't remember the brand, but it's very old and well loved. I use it regularly, especially on small brass screws on contactors.

[@frankmcmanus5142]

Ive used grease with some success along with silicon sealer . I had a couple of the craftman . I havent seen them in years . Thinkin i better look for them in y tool box. Thx for the video

[@Gokraut]

Thanks man !!!! Working on my addition in the crawl space and yes yes yes awesome bought

[@tomneedmorebeer5525]

I’ve had both versions of these for decades and they are handy as hell when you need them. I also have a Klein Phillips that has a collar that grabs the head of the screw which works awesome as long as you have a big enough “hole” for the collar part. It’s Klein 32216.

[@feralkitty33]

I have an older one of the Klein style ones from my deceased father. I had no clue they were so useful. Will have to dig that out next time I'm working on something fiddley.

[@LeCharles07]

More obscure tools! This was awesome. I'm going to order some of those Klein ones.

[@zxborg9681]

Never seen this before, but really neat idea. I love discovering things like this!

[@MsRmaclaren]

I have all those. Great tools. Use them daily!

[@lucadesiervo2684]

You talked me into it. I just bought one on line thanks

[@seitenryu6844]

We use those for building bicycle wheels. They help sometimes inserting spoke nipples into deep section rims. When they wear out(the locking pin falls out), I fix them with a short section of threaded spoke. It's a cycle.

[@Plexico41522]

The Philips one has to be set push the collar forward and compress the holder place the screw on it the pull the collar back voila you have a held screw. Atleast that’s how my Klines work which looks like the same mechanism. I use them for little stainless Philips screws all the time they work great. Not always the most solid hold with every size screw but it’s never completely failed to hold a screw.

[@1pieman]

The Snap on man had the first one on his truck in the early 80's can't beat it game changer 👍😎👍

[@johnwiley8417]

11:14 I had a not-Klein set of this type wedge screw starter forty years ago, in a TV repair shop (a place to take your video monitor to have it fixed, whippersnapper). They had red, stinky plastic handles on them (mildew - dip and wipe off with ammonia to get rid of the stink), and had to buy them from the TV parts distributor. Very handy!

[@Plexico41522]

Possible was a VACO I’ve seen old vaco ones. With red handles. And Klein bought out vaco at some point. So makes sense too.

[@vonpoop1102]

Learnt about these last year from Tom Lipton/Ox Tools. Great stuff. Already a life-saver a few times. You don't know about what you don't know - /especially/ with tools. Word-spreading is good.

[@imnotsickler]

Really great video about why I should just stick to the magnetic screwdriver, couldn't even work with most of the example screws. And no, magnetic stuff isn't really a problem in computers anymore.

[@danb9312]

Cisco loves Stainless Steel screw. Forget the magnet, old school holder worked great.

[@leonpowers8762]

A must have tools for your toolbox especially for Brass or Stainless Steel screws

[@Forge135]

My company issue those with our initial tool kits. I think ours are Proto and they work really well, even the Philips. Despite being the youngest in my area I've taught half of the guys what those actually are. Pays to be cross-trade experienced.

[@jamesjenkins8373]

I have a very similar tool for building bicycle wheels. Mine holds spoke nipples so you can thread them into the spokes without dropping the nipple into the rim.

[@maikeru01]

this is gonna help me to wire VFDs. you earned a subscriber.

[@Bunk599]

Have the Craftsman style one for 50 years, Don't use it often but when I do it's a lifesaver. I prefer the small diameter for getting the screw started...it's more agile, easier to manipulate.

[@FunkFPV]

I haven’t needed one lately but I think the smaller one will still be my preferred style.

[@dsprads]

Thank you, that will help with the 089362 switches

[@maddawgnoll]

My grandfather had one of these in the tool chest, along with quite a few old school tools I have no idea how to use lol. I never knew this was used to start screws. If I remember right it's got a magnet on one end.

[@terryjohnson3100]

Great, I have one of these but never knew what it was. If I can just find it now...

[@FunkFPV]

Haha that’s the other problem. Remembering where you left it.

[@render8]

Great for stainless screws also. VACO used to make them They were bought out by Klein years ago May still be available I think lisle makes them too

[@leonpowers8762]

Definitely nothing wrong with the Proto tools for I had a wrench set that was great

[@lastshadow9351]

Thanks for the reminder, I forgot about these! The Klein style, there were tons of companies that used to make those and some of those were on a pump style driver. Now that I have years of abuse on my hands, I can see why they made them. I'll have to pick one up, so I don't have to do so much cussing!

[@JustaMuteCat]

As long as they are magnetic, you could just use a small neodymium magnet and some tape to prevent it from sticking to anything other than your screwdriver. Some older screwdrivers were also completely pass through the handle, with the setting/locking screw for it going all the way through the back of the handle, you can just put the magnet there in those. For non magnetic on hard to reach I used to use a bit of blue tac between the head and the screw, worked fine for 10 odd years so far.

[@jesseshort8]

I've seen and had the Klein style for as long as I can remember, never seen the other style.🤯

[@chadg739]

Both me and my father as well as my aunt have something called essential tremor. Basically our hands always shake a little if muscles are contracting. It can be truly maddening. Sometimes it makes me very very angry and it really hurts your pride. I have thought about picking up something like this but it always slips my mind when I'm shopping. I'm going to rectify that after watching this.

[@stringlarson1247]

With 3 hand surgeries this past year, my manual dexterity has been suboptimal (my legs have gotten stronger, tho). I had one of those from the '70s, but it grew legs and left home. I've been using a bunch of different mag tips and/or sleeves, but they're not great on stainless steel, and obviously, there's nothing on brass. I had totally forgotten about these little gems. I'mma order one of the flat/phillips to add to my pocket protector. The Klien look good, but my belt pouch is already crammed full. Also, magnets are a PITA when working at a bench, as they grab everything except what I need. Sorry, no jokes about toenails or safety sandals come to mind.

[@Thingstest-rl8xu]

Both types shown sold under many brands for decades. There are more types still sold too. Sometimes they help, other times not. More so on Phillips or worn heads that grab the centers. Various spring holders grab the whole head may help but are often too big to get into small openings.

[@Spanky8402]

I never heard of these. Thank you for sharing.

[@Manvstools]

Awesome never seen these in the UK Ive 100% added them to my kit :)

[@randysavage8963]

I’ve never heard of these very interesting thank you for sharing your knowledge

[@patrickhealy1860]

I just spent an extra 20 minutes *yesterday* putting up an RV air conditioner overhead because they used non-magnetic self-tapping screws and I kept dropping them - and since they were falling a good 7 feet, they always bounced everywhere. Picked up a set of the Kleins since the Stanley isn't available locally.

[@iFixJunk]

Marine tech here. Can't get away with magnets on boats since you run into almost no steel at all. I have some screwdrivers made by Southwire with a springloaded horseshoe at the business end of the tool, and it allows the user to lock the screw into the screwdriver TIGHT. You can wave it around and it won't go anyplace. But, the drawback is that the tools themselves are a bit cumbersome. Great for electrical work, though, where you might have to weave the shaft of the screwdriver past a bundle of wires you don't want to disturb to put a screw into a terminal block, etc. behind them.

[@-Dwight-Schrute]

I didn't know these existed. Thanks for the info!

[@leonpowers8762]

Kline tools makes that one for Phillips and slotted screws. I bought 2 different ones & I also got one from the snap on truck & there all great tools. Like the Stanley to you are showing & I like it better than the new style from Kline but they work good on different situations

[@Moonninja420]

I've seen those tools in shops before, but never knew what they were for. I need one.

[@Floofie_boi]

Magnetic bits. I love them.

[@nasis18]

I always wondered what those were. 😅

[@c64116]

back in 1994 when i was 9 years old, my dad taught me to tape a magnet to the tip of a driver to avoid dropping tiny screws.. Cool tool, but there are more practical options.. EVERY time i needed this tool, i simply just grabbed my magnetized screw driver.... AAAAND, i can simply pop off the magnet and put it on my socket wrench, or pliers or sandwich or whatever. Special Tool < Magnet

[@edgarcornette6387]

wow thanks for the heads up.. another awesome tool

[@2lefThumbs]

I have a plastic version similar to the Stanley style I got in a US work toolkit back in 2008, this had the advantage that the collar that held the blades out had a camming bayonet that released the screw once it reached a decent torque, so you didn't have to reach in and unlock the collar to release the screw once it was started. Never seen one like it in the UK, I'll look up the Stanley part number you mentioned👍 Most of the hard to seat screws I meet are stainless, so magnetic bits don't work- I've used silicone tubing that fits the screwdriver shank at times to grab a screwhead dor long-reach jobs btw

[@enoynaert]

I should probably invest in one of those. My current solution is to get some extra screws so I have a few to drop.

[@willbates2174]

I was not expecting to see the LTT screwdriver 😂. Heck of a crossover.

[@Roosters-rants1977]

I'm in the same trade. Not near as long. I was fortunate to have bought one eight away. I have a few types. I also use magnetic trays. I'm the opposite. I have small hands. I'm holder and they are beat up. Drives me crazy watching guys fight these screws but won't spend a few bucks to solve it.

[@dustinf11]

LTT getting some love here. It really is a phenomenal screwdriver and the price point is good for what it is.

[@hansangb]

Yeah, I got one as well, and that knurling saves the day! Hell, even Project Farms was impressed.

[@benjurqunov]

I've got my Dad's set of those twisty type. At least 60 years old. I prefer the that Klein quickwedge style. (One if them I managed to wear down the tip after thousands of 6-32's...) Which was invented by Vaco in the 60's I believe Klein bought Vaco in the 80's. Strangely enough, Either one is pretty much unheard of in the electrical trade.

[@chasson321]

I’m 63 and still have the one my dad used.

[@FunkFPV]

Haha I guess they go way back 😜

[@BigHappysPlace]

this would resolve so many problems while assembling laptops and PC's. Why have I never heard of this?!

[@georgeburns7251]

Great for straight slot screws. Doesn’t seem like they work for Philips, except the combo ones that have a straight slot. I don’t run across those very often. When you said having a flash like in your mouth, I thought I was the only one doing that. It makes me feel better that I’m not the only one. One of the reasons I like small plastic flash lights. So much easier in your mouth.

[@smithno41]

I use an LED headlight so I don' t have to do the flashlight in your mouth number.

[@dudeistpriest787]

Well, you just accidentally solved a mystery for me. When my dad passed, I inherited all of his tools. He was an electrician, carried a ton of different drivers in his old tool pouch, and there was one that I couldn't figure out what it was for. It looked like just a regular slot screwdriver, but the driver was split up the middle and part of the handle slid up and down; for lack of any better explanation (until now) I just assumed that maybe it was some weird adjustable slot screwdriver. When you pulled out that Klein at the 12:00 mark I got that "adjustable screwdriver" of my dad's out to look at it. Anybody want to guess what's on the handle? M. Klein & Sons.

[@borjesvensson8661]

Strong magnet bit chucks work quite well too

[@johncarlson7955]

I believe that it’s meant to install the points screw inside distributors. Bought mine also from Sears in the early 80’s.

[@Gator-357]

I got one like the Kleins years ago in some free tools and never knew what the heck it was supposed to do so it just sat around keeping the other drivers company until it finally disappeared at some point. The more you know......

[@mattwilson3634]

I feel so dumb. I’ve seen these in tool boxes but they were always broken so l never bothered to find out what they were. Definitely going to buy me one.

[@SkylarsTerribleMemes]

i just use a 12v driver with a 2" bit for whatever screw i need and schlorp a makita mag boost onto it lol, holds way better than a magnetic screwdriver though i never use slotted screws. this is really cool though!

[@Foobiez]

Woohoo! A new Funk Video! 😁

[@FunkFPV]

😁👍🏻

[@The_Warrior526]

I have a screwdriver that I've had for years that is made like the Kliens and I never knew what sort of use it had until now. lol.

[@brandonrowland819]

Klein has a nice #2 phillips that looks like it will work well.