STOP Investing in THESE 12 Commanders in Rise of Kingdoms!

[@OmniarchOfficial]

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[@YAKee18-e7o]

Can you do a vid . what is the best formation for Charles Martel and Richard 1 .because kvk season 2 is starting in my kingdom pls 🙏🙏🙏

[@Mila-gx1dg]

I regret expertising my Alex😬

[@imanbus]

Is not next cycle I'd leadership?

[@janihaavisto79]

I mean like take Henry for example. In every march you look for tankyness ,raw power. So I feel like Henry is good when pairing with other commander that does debuff and have some punch to it too.

[@JWD65]

Mark my words, Guan will be replaced by a "Sun Tzu Prime"

[@OmniarchOfficial]

That would be sick honestly!

[@koyakone]

That would be a beast! but from the recent prime commanders, i dont think sun tzu being a prime will retain as an infantry commander.

[@realjohnlove]

Unless Sun Tzu Prime becomes the next Leadership, last year they skipped Leadership in between Boudica Prime & Joan Prime. Its possible the next commander will definitely be a Leadership

[@knightsofren4492]

Is sun tzu prime upcoming?

[@d0sxxgaming94]

His already replaced by sargon

[@dariobianchessi3914]

Me thinking about my 5133 Guan that I'm going to finish anyway at this point : 😭

[@joseantigua1322]

The only KZbinr that makes a 30 minutes and I watch eating pop corn 👌🏼 you the best bro!

[@fahmiromidoni1588]

send me some your popcorn

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Let’s goooo!! Thank you so much man!

[@zkx2417]

you should do this with each commander cycle put do fewer commanders. and show if your last prediction was correct that people stop using them

[@Pastor.Yoda.]

I feel like Zhuge coming into the game is the nail in the coffin for Guan… Kinda like Gilgamesh coming in was the nail in the coffin for Richard

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I feel like Richard died wayyyy before then but yes you're right hahahah

[@gacl86]

Zhuge isn’t killing guan lol…. Regardless if he can beat guan. Like he said guan does good damage and silence. He will only be replaced by another commander who is equivalent.

[@Pastor.Yoda.]

@@gacl86 he also said that people are benching Guan in favor of different commander combos. And it’s not just that he beats him, it’s the revenge damage for the silence. Guan’s been losing head to head to cav since Nevsky. Now you’re going to start taking revenge damage in murder ball situations just for silencing ZL

[@zaiminnosi2905]

I think it's still too early to put Henry on caution list. Boudica+Zhuge will be my main archer march. I have expertised YSG and I don't wanna put him on the bench considering his AOE is useful and his skills are amazing, definitely my second archer march but I don't see any better comm to pair with him other than Henry. We just get Zhuge/Dido so I don't think Lilith will debut new archer comm within this one year.

[@csnation]

Boudica P + YSG. Henry + Zhuge Liang. Problem solved.

[@mburg10]

Amazing as always omni❤. I know you did a best troop type for f2p,but can you discuss best troop type for low spenders,mid spenders and so on

[@kaspernielsen9149]

My Harald Alex is still destroying "better" marches :P love that combo

[@farhannurman6991]

Alex harald, still gives good trade if doing a sneak attack from the city.

[@irakli1264]

Guan will stay in meta longer than Tariq IMO. Especially because he will get a museum buff.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah I just hope the museum buff comes sooner rather than later, but at this rate it'll be later...

[@Tom_TTT]

Infantry is screwed late game, we need stronger infantry commander. There are 4 infantry commanders on this list including the second strongest one. Commanders get outclassed so quickly now, we can’t bench every commander who is not new.

[@1x._theunderdawg956]

Man...We need like a guan yu 2.0 at this point, scipio is keeping infantry from not being purged completely.

[@kmcdash9755]

This kind of game takes a lot of thinking and reading and for sometime it will take a toll on your health better be wise when playing games like this limit your game time

[@gjinro743]

I dont think Guan will be removed unless another commander gives out an AOE silence. People under estimate how meaningful that license to 3 targets gives you. I'd never trade him for Sargon. In a back and forth field fighting meta. Sargon does meeeehh.

[@Durmomo0]

Cant get rid of Guan until more than 1-2 other infantry commanders are better.

[@Troublebound100]

I am learning to just hold on to legendary sculptures forever and never use them at all or even go for them now. Because soon if not now you can use a commander for one kvk and next kvk they are replaced or downgraded. You have no clue if they will last anymore. Lmao

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah I think there are commanders like Joan P, Zhuge, and Scipio P that are safe investments for now

[@dilloncobb33]

I agree with all of these except Henry. I think if you’re running 2 archer marches Henry needs to be on the field. You can run boudica/YSG and Henry/Zhuge and call it a day.

[@noxsigh]

Boudica/zhug and henry ysg is way better

[@KiNGAlphaYT]

Hey Omni one scary thing i have a feeling is coming is when they come out with a better version of guan in the future just like what they did with alex & giving us Scipio. But good thing would be you would probably still use Guan & then the "better version of him whoever is it.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah that's true, imagine Sun Tzu Prime being basically a Guan 2.0? Would be insane.

[@kyawthu7263]

​@@OmniarchOfficial Sun Tzu prime with 2500 damage factor 5 targets aoe

[@MidiKaz]

Dude henry zhuge rally is unbeatable you should consider about it

[@jakubmar1310]

I came back to this vid after 4 months, man, after smite damage release, the 7 TOP marches probably wont include Trajan, just 7 DPS marches and we might be running Boud/Artemisia, Zhuge/Nebu Huo/William Nev/Joan Sargon/Liu Guan/Scip AND either Henry/YSG wich probab;ly is the way to go, you can go with XY/Justi OR as a 3rd march for Inf you have to switch things up, so Gorgo/Liu and then Guan/Sargon and then Scip with either Honda Tariq or Mehmed, if you value the silence a lot you maybe should run 3 Inf marches, but I think you should do Henry/YSG AND for Inf Gorgo/Liu and Sargon/Scip so, smite damage might have power crept out Guan, cuz I think Gorgo/Liu is better than Guan in murder ball, but it comes to your preffrence

[@Filippa1.1.]

Honestly hot take i want every commander to be useful in some way now it feels like some will just be left in the ditch again and it makes me sad… either they should give us older kingdoms the reset event where you get back everything you invested in the commander or just buff the commanders

[@realjohnlove]

I agree. In certain scenarios even the trash commanders should be useful. Whether its based on giving certain commanders more speed, extra skill that works in certain scenarios, stats increase on or off territory, stats increase during Altar/Ruins, stat increase attacking a pass or Lost Temple, etc etc, Stat increase for certain civilizations on certain commanders that match that commander

[@realjohnlove]

I hate to say this: but Lilith needs to introduce a system that will make older commanders stronger (not like the museum) a general universal type scale where you can boost certain stats such as Attack, Health, Defense, March Speed to a certain buff level. And it’ll be cheaper for older commanders but cost way more relic coins for newer commanders. Or being able to upgrade individual skills with a certain amount of universal Gold Heads

[@isisvalantine2852]

Hey. Brother, in the next chapter, I would like to introduce you to the equipment and formations (I mainly use wedge-shaped formations at this time 😊).

[@notthathard-wp2tc]

I respect your opinions and I respect your tierings. You get a like!

[@dragonxx444]

The 25% reduction on XY is because his skill cycle is much faster than the other commanders

[@Rem-oc6hi]

Thanks Omniarch! I like your videos, id love if you could do another video where you explain which commanders are good at 5-5-1-1 or 5-1-1-1 etc. Like an updated list based on today's meta, kvk1-SOC etc. Thank you for your content!

[@pokerchannel6991]

you are right on. many are not to be lightly invested. ZL, boud, nev, joan, sip. Those are still good.

[@LHabagat]

Wait. It's coffee time! Pause and will have my coffee😆🤣

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Enjoy!

[@tiagofernandes5455]

Hey Omni! Thanks for the video bro 👍 I need advice from you, Guan/Sargon performes much better than Guan/Alex, because if the difference is big I may get Sargon to pair with Guan, but if the difference is not enough I would rather get Joan P to pair with Nevsky Hope you understand, English is not my main language. Thanks 🙏

[@WOLF-lc9vg]

Pakal is the worst investment for the field.

[@dragonxx444]

I maxed my XY this kvk and have no regrets mate. I put it off for so long i felt obligated to a digital commander to do him justice 😂 Now i run: Nevsky Joan XY william Budica Liang Guan Alex (later Sargon) Scipio Honda Im set for at least 6 months.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

That's a great lineup! Yeah I've almost maxed XY multiple times and I really want him but at this point I think I'll wait to see what the next cavs are before I do

[@Loaded0525]

Yup I run Xy/Nevsky XY:5511 Nev:5551 and it gets me a lot of kills of course, you have to be carful with him or else your going to get a full Hospital

[@methadoniac]

@@Loaded0525 bro, do yourself a favor and max your Nevsky. you should probably also max your XY, but DEFINITELY max your Nevsky. he’s not a commander to leave at 5551…

[@Loaded0525]

@@methadoniac yea I’m working on him

[@whitelightning3176]

Idk if I missed it or not but is Saladin just a no go?

[@greeneray]

March speed is important but not as much depending on what type of kvk, when murderballs are fighting we don’t retreat, people who retreat in and out of battles are trolled so at that point march speed is only important to get to the battle marker, after that march speed is irrelevant

[@TJMiton]

Guan is a commander that everyone, who is buying them, should be buying from dailies and everyone should be using in the field if they already have him, but no one should be putting universals into. Also like, lets be real; no should have ever been investing into commanders like Henry and Tariq other than rally leads, it was always a bad idea.

[@operationqbros3446]

I’m an archer main and I’m not pissed off. You have some excellent points that are very valid and need to be thought about.

[@jokaasama1529]

You forgot to mention that the next Legendary commander coming out is gonna be Greek and is infantry so Alexander the Great might get pushed to the sideline.👌

[@jm823]

I'm a free to play player n I'm so happy in the warning section you only put Alexander. 😂😂

[@istvansajtos2541]

Archer main here. I have Zhuge but still my 1st march is Boudica - Artemisia with refined horn and dagger full iconic legendary set of course. Insane they are just insane. Henry - Zhuge 2nd march. Nebu - Tommy 3rd. All three are field but I can rally and garrison too. Have expertised YSG, Amanitore, Ramses and Gilga. I benched YSG when Zhuge came out. Btw all of them above mentioned are expertised. It's not like I don't agree with what you said in the vid I just think Artemisia and Henry are top choices for 3 march archer mains. Not optimal if you only use 5 field marches though but blasts anyway

[@ryanforgo3500]

Omni while i agree with you " as an archer main" i think you and chisgule "and everyone for that matter" you all really have one BIG mistake in your " spending" videos. To put it in simple words, many or most good kds now use a system for MGE where ppl accumlate points and eventually spend them which means the RSS being spent to max MGE commanders are your KD contribution points and the RSS you are using to max non-mge commanders are gems and gold sculptures. Now i would still say Artemesia is not worth it and save your contribution points to everyone BUT it does change everything everyone is saying in videos. So for example i can take 1st spot in MGE 2-3 times AT LEAST currently. That's almost a free henry or art. Can't think of all the perfectly good MGE commanders but you get my point 😅👍

[@seanorr5105]

Alex is less of a concern than guan for me… I’m running Guan Sargon and Scipi alex and I’m pretty sure I’ll be benching guan first but it depends. Guan only does one thing and needs a very specific type to pair with to be useful. Alex will be a secondary to any commander with a good active skill and tanky stats Also Alex’s debuff is criminally underrated

[@JoshTheFrosch07]

100% agree, one of the most versatile inf commanders, he should be in the caution rank if at all, he will be very solid for a long time still

[@sharbandarrimau8448]

🤔For now, I still wish to have Traja or Constantine Max. You must know why. ( 😅😅 That's why I didn't do it. F2P unable to do anything except to suffocate Soldiers help friends in the Open field 💪👍)

[@Osiris-HT]

Négative trade😐

[@sharbandarrimau8448]

​@@Osiris-HT Yup True 💯. That's why I don't follow that wishful thinking dreams 😅😂😂😂👌

[@GaXeL_BLiTZ]

Excellent Video Omni 👌

[@Noe-wq4bu]

Honestly guan isn't as good in 1v1 anymore but he's still great in murder balls in open field, I'll have to keep sticking with my guan

[@charleszulas4021]

In starting a new account after years away, (1864) I am not even looking at pre SOC commanders.

[@jerrylarios6398]

Me watching even tho I run 5 cav marches 🍿 nev joan, xy mina, chandra will, Sala mehmed, atilla Takeda

[@pound4pound380]

YSG is good. Zhuge and YSG is usable

[@lonelywolf9925]

Awh comeon so all my hard wprk on xiang yu gone?! Then who ak i going to pair w nevsky? And with scipio?!

[@johnwhick7419]

“Don’t invest in these heroes.” Should be the start of a journey. Into not investing anything into this garbage can of a game lol

[@dhr.woltemade6387]

I am inclined to agree with you on Guan as a primary. Except if hes primary to Scippy, he just compliments scippy so incredibly well with that silence ability. Like you said sargon does bring a lot to the table but I think at this point its like arguing Iphone vs Android.

[@ruffnready91]

Guan still viable and if he gets a museum buff then possibly meta again

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Very true, but they're releasing museum buffs SOOO slowly... Probably won't be for at least a year at this rate :(

[@ruffnready91]

True cause Alex would come next I think

[@realjohnlove]

Or maybe add an extra star level on Season 1 commanders to get extra troops

[@stevens3751]

This pretty much says if you are a free to play or a tadpole don’t invest in these commanders.

[@psytrus_]

if i’m going into kvk 2 as f2p, should i still invest in bringing saladin to 5551 or just wait until i have access to SOC commanders

[@walkalways8327]

Wait

[@infinitlx8032]

RAM got so weak that he wasn't even included lol

[@gindaandre5325]

How about zhuge liang ,, is good 5511 or 5551 cause i'm not p2w hahahaha

[@kashifcharles6174]

omniarch can u make a video for how much to lvl to commanders as a new player and how to gain more xp ima now my sun tzu at 40 and other below 30 so idk but can u help us

[@kaspernielsen9149]

Guan Yu is amazing. :D

[@Billwinkins]

The thing about Trajan is all the secondary commanders are trash so if they do come out with another one you will be pairing Trajan with him/her 🤓🤓

[@hezhang8843]

That will be hard because Lilith decides to release one leadership commander focus on garrison or rally every cycle

[@ngocquoc2828]

Scipio is the best for Trajan

[@haaeel]

good job for prediction relique Alexander, i m so sad ciao ciao Alex

[@Denis_Sandman]

Отличная работа, я почти согласен со всем, но думаю Гуань Юй ещё долго будет в числе лучших 😉

[@Slappfesk1]

When are zhung coming to wheel of fortune? Im about to enter kvk3 now

[@kissmark5020]

Liked, expecting 100 heads as promised or riot! Kkona

[@spain7614]

I would just keep my guan 5251 he fine it’s not the end of the world I don’t need to max him lol

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah that's a good strategy hahaha

[@lenherrpius9805]

What comander canwe now invest in the beginning as ysg isn't that safe anymore?

[@Haunted.Horrors]

What is the next cycle commander on your opinion?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I think it's Cavalry if I remember correctly

[@mohammadsn8677]

Great video, I agree with you except Henry

[@realjohnlove]

27:26 😭😭😭😭 I expertise Amanitore in February

[@randomposter1980]

The truth of this game... YOU ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO BE HARMED BY YOUR OWN KINGDOM, THAN AN OPPONENT. With an opponent, you know what to expect. When to shield, when you are vulnerable. When fighting has the possibility to occur. But your own kingdom is by far, the greater, greater danger. Did you exceed MGE points? Zeroed. Not fight hard enough in Kvk? Zeroed. Question the orders of an R4? Zeroed. Zeroed while you assume you're in "safe, home" space, while you're afk, your own alliance will zero you, and then everyone forgets they ever knew you. Try to point out it was unjust? You never contributed; your worth was dead weight. I've seen kingdoms time & again, waste perfectly good, enthusiastic players, and wreck their accounts for dumb infractions like trying to micro-manage MGE kill-points, and then moan at the height of Kvk battle, "Where is everyone!!?!? You lowly T4 players let the T5 down!" Screw these guys. What is really more important to a kingdom's success? A whale that has one extra skill level on their El Cid? Or an entire healthy T4 player, that is actively gaming? It seems to me like every kingdom i've been in gets the sickness where it's like they'd rather have a whale have the extra skill than an entire player.

[@dweintoys8068]

Yep f2p cant keep up anymore with these new heroes coming out.

[@aldairospinoborja5156]

Deja de poner título en español que conjundes a la gente que habla español

[@Thought_it_up]

Wow I completely agree on all points. Nice.

[@ryanforgo3500]

32:00 yup as omni said here and even more, pakal harald became a SAFE ENEMY to aoe other enemies nowadays it is actually funny that pakal harald are a main target for me to avoid the full rage swapping of a nevsky or some shit. thing is, if you attack a sargon/scipio or a nevsky/joan or a boudica/ZL and they rage swap to you. You WILL take loads of dmg, 1 skill cycle from those will do more damage than pakal harald would do to you in 20-30 seconds "at least as archer main". So for me as i use ZL/YSG my dmg on selected target is Almost 100% the same as the other 4 targets. So i started using low damage tanks to hit other enemies around them with no risk. I have reports of me hitting pakal harald and doing 60-150k Sevs on enemies around the pakal harald and believe it or not i'd be at less than 5k-8k sevs in thst report because the enemy i am hitting safely can't do skill dmg.

[@franzparas6061]

Alexander the Great is a good infantry commander in early game👌

[@operationqbros3446]

I would put Guan in the caution tier. He is going to have his place for a while but when new infantry comes he will be outpaced. You will still probably use him in some cases though. He also has a lot of great pairing. Scipio prime, Sargon, Tariq.

[@michaelarmia]

We still not sure about new inf commanders they may be worse actually we just don't know however just to be safe I made him 5232 and stopped and I'm gathering heads for now until the commanders are released then I will see I think that's the safest route

[@TheClawNinja]

Someone loves cavs...

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Hahaha I'm an infantry main honestly... but the truth is that Cavs have dominated the field for like a year at this point, they're very good

[@sniper7783]

too long Vidios, I konw that make it more monetize, but I always stop the video 5 minutes after it began

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Use chapters! :)

[@romulobaggio]

🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@istomol]

Hello omniarch, im f2p and im looking to upgrade my cavalry march, what would you say about nevsky and william combo?

[@zobdnel]

Thanks for making the effort to pronounce Zhuge Liang correctly. It’s pretty crazy how many content creators completely fuck it up when it takes 10 seconds on google translate.

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Hahah I've messed it up a few times as well so I'm guilty too!

[@ramy22000]

I have all of them maxed out except for the archers 😢

[@OmniarchOfficial]

That's okay, they're beasts still. I have many of them maxed too!

[@ryanforgo3500]

It will ALL come down to museum buff. Guan and XY could stay in the meta with a health buff, XY can also become more of a meta with a dmg factor buff, but i think xy is a later gen than guan , no? .Nebu is less likely to survive with the buff because of his dmg factor. The buff could be for his dmg factor but if it is then he will fall behind YSG in stats Anyway.

[@Pocket420]

I have a 5/3/2/5 Guan yu and working on him atm, should I just stop investing in him? already have expertise scipio prime

[@ruffnready91]

I'd keep going I am he will get a museum buff down the road

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Hmmm that's hard to say... if you have any skill reset items you could try to get a 5155 (or close) and that might be your best bet

[@Pocket420]

@@OmniarchOfficial I watched Chisgule try to 5/1/5/5 guan in an old video and he gave up resetting him before expertising him and I don't have that many skill resets, I could try to get lucky I guess but I thought I was lucky enough getting 5/1/1/5

[@ruffnready91]

Ask alliance for silver farming flags or next kvk make sure your in every building getting silver then ask them put reset in alliance shop

[@joaomarcoslouro1424]

Too late, man... My Artemísia is 5514 now...

[@OmniarchOfficial]

That's okay, she's good with Boudica Prime and might get a relic in the future :)

[@mmschettino]

To perform well you just need to spend money whit the damn pay to win tech, doesn’t mather if your commanders are full or not . Sad but true

[@rnsc8342]

Not the calculation though for many players. If you don't just buy every new commander rapidly, and have invested a lot in a say Guan do you get more by putting more effort into him, or starting again with the meta of the week. The new top tier nearly all add capability in tiny increments so itsoften a long time before you will get back where you are. now. Equally , by the time most people expertise a new current meta there will be at least one replacement meta. And at some point all the players falling behind now will gain something from the museum which may or may not restore their capability. Logically it may make more sense to accumulate heads and then go for the next meta . This is relevant for those prepared to spend enough. But most players don't, and most of what turns up on the battlefield let alone in the the canyons , or side games is just not that good, let alone meta.

[@uimasterroshi171]

Thank god i stopped to care about meta hahah I never bench Guan or YSG end of the story. Its not that i can much

[@jajko.po.5578]

Xiang should go to red and tariq to Orange i think

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah perhaps I was too nice to them lol

[@jajko.po.5578]

@@OmniarchOfficial also do you think next cavs are gonna be better than nevsky/Joan?

[@corey598]

My Alex is 5542 im f2p and Im sad to benched him as my gh all went on him😂

[@Zelknown]

How do you even get those commanders

[@ITZY.Staedt]

what if, just what if, they start revamping or reworking commander(not prime)?

[@YTWatchBox]

forgive me Lilith for i have sinned

[@simplicityclips]

Attila/Tekada Already at drop list? 😂 No more warnings

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Yeah they’re long gone hahahaha

[@simplicityclips]

@@OmniarchOfficial That's pretty bad for Me. I'm almost Mac them both... like Attila 5555/ Tekada 5552 🙃😆

[@simplicityclips]

I love the video 💝

[@skoshow8418]

Well look who’s first… 😎

[@mzreina74]

Omni is first

[@mzreina74]

:)

[@OmniarchOfficial]

WELL WELL WELL... Thanks brother! Hope all is well! :)

[@Abdullah-ho7ug]

My guan is 5243 should i stop and max zhuge i have max skippi

[@realjohnlove]

I think the next Leadership commander will be either an upgrade of Trajan or Honda.

[@MohammedDawod-ti1nw]

بس اكتبلنا الترجمة تحت 😅

[@salsa_kaunas]

Omniarch do you stream?

[@OmniarchOfficial]

I love streaming but I haven't had the time in months :( if I do, i'll make an announcement on my discord and my community page

[@MrNooah]

stop using arabic language in your titles you know the google translate is broken 🤣

[@iFlamerc]

I’m very early again 😅 I hope none of the commanders I use get mentioned in this video 😂

[@OmniarchOfficial]

Who's gonna tell him o.o

[@iFlamerc]

@@OmniarchOfficial 😭

[@Mila-gx1dg]

I want really good luck on this next wheel😝 Need about 100 heads to expertise😳

[@taiyuchan7388]

As a f2p that have most inf comms maxed i really agree that guan has been on the chopping block for a long time already. Cheok for me does better than him in open field.(probably cuz guan is a heavy target). also leo is so slow hes been benched n replaced by double relic martel n that seems to work great.