Stop This 1 Humiliating Jumping MISTAKE with these 3 drills [CRITICAL Safety Advice]

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@STLMTB
@STLMTB 10 ай бұрын
All great tips, but having a jump that is low risk that you can session is huge, at least it was for me. I spent a lot of time learning how to handle a steep lip on a step up, now im clearing 20' gaps. All this at 55.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
That’s epic and I agree 1000 percent.
@Todd-cf8nl
@Todd-cf8nl 10 ай бұрын
Awesome man! Just turned 52 today (or 13😂) and got back into it this year after 30 years off and back to jumping smaller stuff and it feels great. At least til my back stiffens up that evening 😂
@Ryry12088
@Ryry12088 9 ай бұрын
That’s so rad Bro I’m 43 I’m trying to do what ur doing
@antlerr
@antlerr 8 ай бұрын
remember the saying "keep it simple stupid" still aplies learn basics then go practice till you can go to next step, nice you never gave up riding keep burning rubber not your soul. 31 and i will ride till i die.
@antlerr
@antlerr 8 ай бұрын
my first bike was a old banana seat pedal back brake, learned to downhill on a bmx frame I put together, now I have a Marlin 6 entry level bike and already have the skills to become advanced in level on a mountain bike, and easily shred the black and double black single track trails in my city. even can freeride downhill, I owe it to learning the basics and the mechanics of the center of gravity...
@LoamReaper
@LoamReaper 8 ай бұрын
I've been riding 30+ years and I'm getting SO much out of your videos. I'm binging you hard. Thanks!
@in_10z
@in_10z 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this technical breakdown and solid advice. Just when I think I've seen every how to jump video, I find this gem! So I'm about 2 years into my jumping journey and although the knowledge and foundation are important, nothing will work but getting out on the trails and practicing. The part you mentioned about weekend warriors (or 3 month warriors as you say) is so true. So many of us are so busy, getting to the trails every weekend is tough but repetition is the key. If you want to jump confident, safe, and fun you have to be on it weekly. If you really want to jump as bad as you say you do, then get your arse to the park or trails and practice!! Over and over.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
Jumping is a looong journey lol. Other stuff like cornering, drops, downhill riding IMO is a weekend with the right instruction plus lots of practice.
@knucklesnichols1283
@knucklesnichols1283 6 ай бұрын
Sic breakdown! So in essence, vector lean the opposite way on the landing, yes? I had a Honda XR100 I used to ride in the woods with my friends. Build jumps. Land back-wheel-first all the time. It was fun. So was shotgunning Old Milwaukees in the power-lines. And while I haven't had an ol' Mill in 30 years, I still land wheelie first all the time.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 6 ай бұрын
If you can do it with control totally fine And sounds all American ‘muricuh
@mtb71
@mtb71 9 ай бұрын
Great job dude, well explained
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
Glad it resonated!
@artvandelay1720
@artvandelay1720 9 ай бұрын
I managed to figure out something like the vectored lean by trying to reverse the bucking motion so I could get air at a minimal speed. It's cool that I'm actually doing something correctly. I still need to work on landing angle though.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
NICE! That gets me fired up. Lots of things I discovered the same way too.
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 10 ай бұрын
Great advice. Drills not on trail are the only way to master correct fundamentals and build muscle memory. The thing that is counter-intuitive about jumping is that you must must push down with your feet and hands as you boost and pull off the lip of the jump. Pushing down to go up is hard to get the brain to grasp. It is the only way to keep the rider and bike as a connected package in the air. The other thing is you have to drive the heels down into the lip and transition to a toe point on the pull as you clear the lip... a lot of reps are necessary to get the timing and muscle memory down.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
sure thing. It's different too for people with experience when younger who are returning, plus 99% of riders who are learning jumping are riding nice full sus bikes. IMO easier to learn on a twitchy hardtail + small, forgiving jump because the mechanics/movement are magnified. Thanks for checking it out!
@petedog9581
@petedog9581 10 ай бұрын
@@mountainbikeacademy I cut my teeth manualing over 1-2' logs and white knuckling down steep on rigid frames on ungroomed hiking trails. It built-in natural trials skills to my game early. It was intuitive, but there is no substitute for parking lot work of fundamentals.
@vetdadon2621
@vetdadon2621 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been off mountain bikes since 2000. Got back into it with my kids a few months ago. This past weekend I tried a jump and ended up going over the handle bars. Busted my helmet and received a moderate concussion and some stitches in a few places. My Dr. told me to lay off for a month before I tried jumping again. Any way I did exactly what the last guy did in your video. Compressed to far back and was not sure till now why it happened. Awesome video. I am signing myself and the kids up for a jump clinic though. 😂
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
lol! Def listen to your doctor. Concussions are not to be fooled with :) And yes a jump clinic is the way to go!
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 10 ай бұрын
You got me at Bermbino 🧨👌 My biggest mistake is bailing out whenever I don't feel in control. Idk if it served me well or if it's a nuisance 😂
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Jeez was wondering if anyone would get the sandlot reference
@eve-llblyat2576
@eve-llblyat2576 10 ай бұрын
Dont worry if you struggle. As the video said. Jumping is not about knowledeg, its about the skill. There is so many things happening. you cant think about what you doing when you hitting a jump. Even if you seen this video, and everything sounds plausible. still, you race towards a jump, you wont convert all this with full confidence. You will struggle and it will feel like its not working. Its still can take time. It feels like you not progressing. But there will be a moment when its klicking. The moment, when the first time you jump and its the muscle memory doing its job. Its a eureka moment. Its the first time you dont need to focus on your body movement but more onto the jump itself. Thats the first time its feels like you doing it the proper way. and than progress goes fast. So train these things, and wait for the moment its becomes muscle memory.
@justsayin3600
@justsayin3600 10 ай бұрын
I'm a heavy rider, at 230lbs. For me to clear a 10-15 jump I feel like I need a lot more speed than the guys that are 180-190. That being said, I've tried all kinds I'd advise, which can be mind numbing. Not to mention information overload. I had my AH-AH moment when I realized I can't be towed in by a much lighter rider. Gravity is real. The advise I didn't hear in this video is, absolutely do not add input into the bars in a way that you will become a dead sailor. There's nothing worse than having everything line up and you do something to make you lean to one side. Trying to correct this in the air is just about impossible.
@nikolasestan2049
@nikolasestan2049 10 ай бұрын
Another great video and I am already looking forward to your next one. I find your channel to be actually the most educational in skill training as I came to the same conclusions myself the hard way trough frustrations & injuries. I whish I had this info years back, but then again if I consider my lack of experience I would probably not believe the "hard truths" spoken on the channel. I would like to point out and hear your thoughts (could be a topic for another video) on how cockpit setup (stack and reach mainly) affect jumping and maybe other skills or techniques. I found that incorrect bike size - stack/reach/handlebar rotation is the the most dangerous mistake you can make when trying to progress jumping skills. For example increasing stack and reach too much can get you to a point where you are so stretched out that you can go over the handlebars "even if you try" and you are landing rear wheel first all the time or reducing them both too much can make you OTB on every jump along with washing out in corners that are not very steep.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
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@johnkatakowsi9907
@johnkatakowsi9907 10 ай бұрын
Definitely good advice, thanks for the simplification, the standing tall has saved me many a time !!!
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Super!
@stx333
@stx333 10 ай бұрын
This is pro -advice right there. I’m mean you’re pro in explaining things David 🤗
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@dietwinbetlem3762
@dietwinbetlem3762 10 ай бұрын
Hey there! Solid break down and instructions... I feel what i need to do, i know how to timely preload and make the slight angled hop to make a pefect jump. I am being held back as the lip gets higher and steeper to lean in the vector needed as i feel i will go into orbit. It is not the technique, it is the fear of going sky high....any tips on that other then repeat, repeat, repeat?? Fear originated from a nasty otb crash with neck disk damage, so it resides deep in my being. Cheers!!
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Honestly that's a way deeper topic - super common though. I'm very sorry to hear about the disc damage, that's ROUGH! So there's a whole process I take people through in my membership (not trying to be like "buy my membership") but here's the basic steps: 1. fearsetting - map out what fears we are aware of and what we notice it's making us DO on the bike 2. goalsetting - identify one outcome that if achieved would eliminate complexity + get us at least to 95% consistency. This is the one that requires me knowing the person a bit to help them out, because riders tend to misdiagnose the actual thing that's stopping them. 3. drills that emulate the moves needed from #2 in a safe way 4. Gradual re-introduction of safest/most predictable jumps Plus you gotta practice with a measure of frequency with jumping - the timing required super punishes you for being off a bit. I hope that's somewhat helpful - but yeah if you want you can join the membership and I'll help you through it myself.
@jd4000
@jd4000 10 ай бұрын
I've been contemplating what you have described as a "vectored lean" for some time, some one else described this as a slight feeling like your feet coming forward of your hips slightly hanging off the bars, almost as if someone pulled a rug from under your feet. In practice it's springing off the feet perpendicular to the line drawn between the wheel axles at the point you need the wheels to take off from the lip. Pheew that was a long sentence. Personally the absolute hardest thing is standing up the whole way off the lip and NOT absorbing at all before the rear wheel is off the lip. Bearing in mind the biggest thing I have hit jumps wise is probably about 4-5ft height and about 10-12 across the flat table-top. I'm looking to progress to bigger jumps, but as you say, getting bucked is the number 1 fear. Great video.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Good awareness- yes that’s a clean description too! I don’t want people thinking about their axles too much but if you can good on you lol! IMO man… next level is coaching or riding behind riders you trust Come join us if you want me to do some vid coaching w you
@anthonysei
@anthonysei 2 ай бұрын
So, I basically think of it as prolonging the compression cycle caused by the jump transition. Another way to think of it is to time the rebound top-out with the point where the wheels leave the ramp. To me, the key is timing the unload by controlling/lengthing the compression using body mass and legs. This is a by feel and trial and error thing starting on smaller jumps that are big enough to have both wheels on the ramp. So many variables: ramp size and geometry really matter. Flat face, long park tables vs steep, radiused dirt jump types. Like you said, be cautious of the tall vert ramps. It cant be said enough to start smallish and progress to larger and larger so the difference in "feel" is not too drastic.
@jharsh3376
@jharsh3376 10 ай бұрын
Great vid. How do you find the time while you’re touring with greenday? 😂
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Teleportation through enlightenment Said enlightenment attained by communing with bike gods wade Simmons and Brett Tippie
@AdventureRich
@AdventureRich 10 ай бұрын
Subscribed!!
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Nice! Cool user name too m’friend
@scoresandflames
@scoresandflames Ай бұрын
I'm 46 and bought my first real hardtail MTB this fall - your videos seem to offer great advice on what to practice and how to practice it. I just wish your content included a bit more hardtail specific hints/breakdowns.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy Ай бұрын
"hardtail specific" honestly isn't that much different. The fundamentals are the same, the WAY you achieve them are slightly different. Play with it man. :) hope this helps, and sure I'll do some more I get this q enough to make an adjustment!
@tonyvac2
@tonyvac2 7 ай бұрын
oh ! stand up to the jump
@dankdestroyer6965
@dankdestroyer6965 10 ай бұрын
Hey mate, do the techniques in this video work on hardtails?
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
More or less. Idea is the same how you influence the bike is different. Wait later to standing spring Do standing spring mush more rapidly IMO it’s mainly a timing difference
@dankdestroyer6965
@dankdestroyer6965 10 ай бұрын
@@mountainbikeacademy Thanks bro
@raff5604
@raff5604 10 ай бұрын
"The great Burmbino"!!!!! That was the best!!!! LOL
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
lol thanks
@bullit4x
@bullit4x 10 ай бұрын
SHOOOT!!! You’re in Asheville ?????? Dude. I’m on beech mtn. So when can I get some private coaching?? I thought a part of this video was @ kanuga (sure looked like it)
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I ride wnc area when I’m not riding near Greenville. I got into it at Clemson.
@SumGuyLovesVideos
@SumGuyLovesVideos 10 ай бұрын
Is that loading the same with a hardtail? Does the nose springing up but the tail not cause issues?
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
No, because if the rear doesn't spring down there's no chaos to control on the way up. IMO it's WAY easier to learn on a hardtail because there's far less going on, but man is it way harder on your body if you aren't used to landing lol.
@peterb8500
@peterb8500 10 ай бұрын
So how do you jump DJ lips? Was thinking of learning to dirt jump as it will be a faster way to get good
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
good q here's my answer www.loom.com/share/d1867bc3272a4c3cb9522fee570892f0?sid=5372f316-8a1a-4f0e-8a4f-0e678aeb59b3
@Cartsp70
@Cartsp70 9 ай бұрын
I find if you hit a jump ANY size doesn’t matter l find that if you load the suspension and then if you think it’s going wrong just pull the bike up towards your body, it’s hard to explain but it basically kills your speed and the jump at the same time so you can just ride away , until you’re ready to jump 👍🏾trust me it works
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
Could be a good way to scrub some speed but what about the habits it’s building?
@Cartsp70
@Cartsp70 9 ай бұрын
@@mountainbikeacademy yeah I hear ya, no I meant like once you’re past the point of no return to gain control of the airtime I just pull the bike up to my body and then push it down, I’ve seen a lot of people go dead sailor mid air which is a bad idea, by pulling the bike level towards your body it’s easier to get it back under control 👍🏾
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
@@Cartsp70 oh yeah ! I know what you mean now. Yeah I’m not sure why but that seems to buy you some time!
@stirfrybry1
@stirfrybry1 10 ай бұрын
I always did this instinctively but I learned on mt bikes with no suspension at all. LOL you had to pop the lip to launch. Basically suspension forks require an earlier motion than a rigid fork. LOL For the record, I suck at jumpimg, but there was one time I launched a little too huge on a jump and one of the best riders I've ever seen, who was a junior world champion in 97, told me it was the biggest jump he'd ever seen. LOL I was freaked in the air but I just imagined I was on my three wheeler and I landed pretty smooth. Might have been 80 or 90 feet to a nice long landing slope. I was on a Foes with a Risse fork. That stuff was bombproof
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Risse fork was an absolute legend
@stirfrybry1
@stirfrybry1 10 ай бұрын
@@mountainbikeacademy You know it. IOt ended up on a super Vee that we modifird to double the travel and I won two races with that bike
@majisas1174
@majisas1174 10 ай бұрын
If you had to chose Landing flat or casing the jump 😊
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Landing flat at least I can absorb the impact without a knuckle destroying everything
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
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@terryontwowheels
@terryontwowheels 10 ай бұрын
Glad I found your channel recently , my last name is Davidson also maybe we are related
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Maybe my whole family is from Scotland and wales and moved to Tennessee
@bullit4x
@bullit4x 10 ай бұрын
Wish you were in my area for some private coaching. I just won a literal fu@k ton of money playing the lottery.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
lol. Where are you exactly?
@bullit4x
@bullit4x 10 ай бұрын
@@mountainbikeacademy I live on Beech Mountain. I’m 53, raced dh years ago. Actually won a couple of sea otter dh’s. Quit riding in 2009. Started back up in 2022. Dive right back into racing. Won the gonuts dh series. But, I was racing against other old farts. I want to get back to where I was. I can’t jump, my cornering sucks and I ride scared (4 knee ops in same knee).
@bullit4x
@bullit4x 10 ай бұрын
@@mountainbikeacademy beech mountain
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
@@bullit4x I know the knee story myself that’s rough! Yeah stay on the channel I may open private 1-1 lessons where I travel to your area - I’ll announce it later this summer
@bullit4x
@bullit4x 10 ай бұрын
@@mountainbikeacademy awesome! I can hook you up with buddy passes for some shuttles. I work bike patrol.
@Scott-to8ri
@Scott-to8ri 25 күн бұрын
You all nuke this. Comes down to more time on the bike, being comfortable and confident.
@Thedoug369
@Thedoug369 9 ай бұрын
Practice on stepups, lf you screw it up it's less distance to fall. Of course you're not going to screw it up...right?
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 9 ай бұрын
I agree Yeah don’t screw it up!
@andrec.136
@andrec.136 8 ай бұрын
I am going to practice this tomorrow for sure. Great instruction.
@andrec.136
@andrec.136 8 ай бұрын
Ok, I tried it, but only my front wheel is lifting. To get my back wheel to lift I have to push forward on the bars. Is this normal?
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 8 ай бұрын
I’d have to see it to give you insight tbh But sounds correct though
@miyui9269
@miyui9269 10 ай бұрын
if you carry your bike uphill, it will carry you in the air.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
I will carry you to the comment consistency hall of fame
@donavinnezar
@donavinnezar 10 ай бұрын
i feel like you should be teaching jump basics on a hardtail to teach the rider how to absorb some of the impact not just brute forcing it with suspension
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 10 ай бұрын
Nah
@KiwiJon
@KiwiJon 6 ай бұрын
What about is poorer hardtail riders?
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 6 ай бұрын
Not understanding the question but hard tails are awesome I have one
@antlerr
@antlerr 8 ай бұрын
13:26 roflmao oh boy childhood memories of so many cooffin jumps yes way different method for these jumps do not do without proper advice.... and years of basic skills in jumps.
@mountainbikeacademy
@mountainbikeacademy 8 ай бұрын
Good times eh
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