fun fact, I've been wrapping bars top to bottom for years. no need for tape on the top to keep it affixed and I find that it grips my hand better. Also, for those who deal with hand fatigue who want to avoid gel inserts may I suggest using an old innertube? cut out the valve, tape it into place, make multiple tight wraps until you get to the end of the bar, cut off excess, use some tape to keep it in place and wrap with your preferred bar tape, works very well.
@markpanek1849 Жыл бұрын
Great tips!
@richardmulligan2540 Жыл бұрын
Fixing to put new bar tape on mine….may do this
@davidscott6164 Жыл бұрын
Depending on how aggressively you grip your bars and where you like to hold the handlebar often, wrapping bars top to bottom tends to leave it more vulnerable to getting unwrapped/rolling over itself from use
@Douglas36360 Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea
@christophercervantes5346 Жыл бұрын
It seems so simple now that you mention it.
@manueldeubler1127 Жыл бұрын
There are many manufacturers that use a sticky silicone strip instead of the typical adhesive on the back. Supercaz, Fabric, Specialized, and PRO are tapes that I have used. However, they cost more than the traditional ones.
@andrew3526 Жыл бұрын
Does seem to be a product solving a problem that's already solved and I 'd rather have a silicone bar tape with cushioning if I'm riding gravel. Cinelli's gel cork handlebar tape is comfortable, can be re-wrapped and is like $10 a pack
@davidanderson9176 Жыл бұрын
I think the other problem with typical bar tape is that it stretches so once you unwrap it it will never wrap nicely again because some parts are stretched more than others
@Bikey_McBeardface Жыл бұрын
BBB FlexRibbon is my go to, It looks like the popular "PU" coated tapes but it stretches like cork/silicone/EVA, has the silicone strip rather than sticky tape, lasts ages, supper grippy, and cheap. They do a GravelRibbin to that's more cushy too if you need it. (Not RaceRibbon though that's totally different and crap).
@MarlowWhere Жыл бұрын
Even most cheap cork take I've bought is just a silicone bead and not a super sticky adhesive.
@Bikey_McBeardface Жыл бұрын
@@MarlowWhere A lot do seem to be moving away from the adhesive type.
@teddgram Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI - those of you that have Aluminum handlebars should probably take the tape off once in a while to make sure you can get the bars clean. The salt from your sweat will corrode the bars if left unchecked for an extended length of time causing bar failure.
@MattRose30000 Жыл бұрын
Especially after turbo trainer season.
@erics9214 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, but what? I've been riding many years and have never seen this happen on any of my bikes. I do live in Colorado where it is pretty dry. But I've never seen any sign of this kind of corrosion. Maybe you guys are just extra salty?
@MattRose30000 Жыл бұрын
@@erics9214 it's more of an indoors problem in my experience. Outside, the sweat evaporates quicker
@matthewguenther6925 Жыл бұрын
@RollinRat I'm genuinely curious how many out of those 1000's/year have that issue. We all remember "that one bike that..." but usually not the ones that were "boring". I've personally never seen it, but, admittedly, my sample size is small, only a few dozens of bikes that were generally well taken care of (though some had thousands of outdoor miles, were decades old, and one that was both and sat out through 2 soggy Oregon winters before I acquired it.). I'm wondering if it is like the Ultegra/Dura-Ace crankset corrosion issue that seems to be pretty widespread, but not generally talked about outside of forums or maybe a certain alloy/brand?
@davomoto42 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Same with peeling back the hood rubber once in a while and spraying some alcohol in there and then wiping it down.
@yarryrob Жыл бұрын
I've used old inner tubes before. Worked great.
@Exgrmbl Жыл бұрын
Same, its a good use for an old tube.
@matt.3.14 Жыл бұрын
For an under-layer, or as the actual bar tape?
@yarryrob Жыл бұрын
@@matt.3.14 The bar tape, not under layer. It never looked pretty but worked okay.
@DominiqueB Жыл бұрын
@@yarryrob Only downside in my experience is that it can leave black markings on your hands/gloves. No biggie, it washes off, but something to be aware of.
@roman23745 ай бұрын
@@DominiqueB i just put very thin tennis overgrip over the parts where I have my hands must and the tubes give it a nice cushion, the tennis grip tape a nice feel
@antoniefountain2804 Жыл бұрын
Been using Grepp for a year or two now. Always tinkering on my bikes, and it's just so handy that you can re-use this basically an infinite number of times. No fraying to speak of at all. There is some discolouration (I have both the black and rain drum (brown) colours), but that's basically cool patina anyway. The only downside is that it is so darn durable and reusable that you better make sure you get the right colour, cause there's not going to be a reason to replace it for a loooong time once you have it. Would love to see some patterns, like a collab with Campandgoslow would be epic...
@HonedByJones Жыл бұрын
Looks like nice tape. Seems like since since you had so much extra tape you could have increased the overlap to make it a little bit more cushioned.
@daviec1816 Жыл бұрын
The extended length alone looks like a benefit of this stuff. Starting from the top and working down means you might not reach the end and have enough material to get it locked down, but this seems like no problem.
@uniquenamegoeshere2263 Жыл бұрын
Just like what we had in the 1960s and 70s. Serfas sells a woven tape.
@MHH3180 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing amd always liked installing backwards, but the wrap won't last long.
@scrooge1913 Жыл бұрын
Long live the retro-grouch
@bracket0398 Жыл бұрын
Isopropyl works to get tape gunk off bars. I'm diggin this non-tape tape, like that you dont need electrical to "seal" it at the end and rubber undercoat is a really great idea for bar grip. Rubber band ribs on bars could also be a workaround with actual bar tape-tape if you don't wanna stick the adhesive.
@andrew_yeah Жыл бұрын
nice vid! When I wrapped my Grepp tape, I went the "normal" way - from the bar ends up to the stem, and haven't had any issues. I also overlapped quite a bit and still had plenty left, on a fairly "normal" width 46cm bar. I used a small strip of Newbaum's to finish it and hold it in place, and the adhesive on the back of that hasn't caused any problems so far. Oh, and I also found using a figure-8 pattern around the lever got rid of the gap without leaving a big bulge of tape or having to cut an extra piece.
@greppcyclingstuff5870 Жыл бұрын
That's perfectly fine. Wanted to highlight that both ways are working. We just adopted the other way to get rid of the finishing tape and avoid cutting the tape length. However finishing the tape with a newbaums tape is for sure a great way to make the cockpit shine and keep it clean🤙.
@danielblume4173 Жыл бұрын
Was looking for a comment like this. Thanks. Because there is a reason for wrapping tape the "normal" way, especially on the top of the bars. When slyding your hands along the bars to the levers, the folds of the tape should not hinder your movement. When you wrap the tape like in the video you will constantly rub against the folds and eventually loosen the tape. But good to hear that it works the "normal" way - I think I will give this tape a try!
@andrew_yeah Жыл бұрын
@@danielblume4173 if you're a fan of the feel of cloth tape, I bet you'll like it
@FaustBusserl Жыл бұрын
Love my silicone tape without adhesive but my gloves eat up the surface. I was already thinking about adding a protective tape on top, keeping the silicone for cushion and I kind of like chunky grips.
@johnbrann75 Жыл бұрын
In the old days we always wrapped our bars with part of the brake lever clamp showing. I don't remember ever needing to grip the bars where the little gap was in the tape. But times have changed and aesthetics are important.
@tecdesigns8183 Жыл бұрын
A toffee wheel attachment on a drill will sort left over glue or alternatively a cheaper option is Zoff wipes more labour intensive but no scratches
@telepoiss Жыл бұрын
Just wrapped with Grepp a few days ago. Its deffo a bit hard on the hand and slightly slippery but also ride with gloves on longer rides. On commutes it doesnt matter really. Wondering what will happen when riding in rain in summer. How quickly will it dry out or feel damp. Considering its not that thick, will probably dry pretty quick in sunshine? Got a yellow one and its for sure bright and slightly shiny at the beginning. Think of buying white sneakers and going out to the street the first day. Blinding everyone. Cant wait to get them slightly dusty and worn in. But easy to wrap and love the idea.
@davomoto42 Жыл бұрын
I've had really good luck with Bontrager Gel Cork bar tape, the adhesive isn't super-duper sticky, and it unwrapped and re-wrapped very well one year after I initially installed it. For sub $20 tape it's hard to do any better.
@hugobci Жыл бұрын
I use leather strips specific for handlebars, local production. 2 years, re-wrapped several times, no sticky glue. Under the tape, for long distance added comfort I use stripes of inner tube.
@10xZ00M Жыл бұрын
I used strips of thin closed-cell mat. Butt (edges&ends) joined with contact adhesive, plus some stick points to stop movement. Any high wear areas could be easily cut out and replaced.
@oldshovel Жыл бұрын
Grepp, where have you been all my life - I just ordered 3 sets from Crust. Awesome, awesome, awesomeness! Thanks Russ for the tip.
@jeffandersen6233 Жыл бұрын
Good idea to solve an ongoing issue and it looks nice too. I see someone else reported using old inner tubes, a good reuse option. I used to get rubber wrap from a hardware store meantvfor hammer wrapping. It wirked great, had cushion and could be reused. Downside it was onlynin black. Thanks for continuing to seek out fixes for annoying and expensive bike issues
@Kantcino Жыл бұрын
Uni student in Chile, poor as fuck, used old inner tube as bar tape for like 3 years, a little stiff on the hands and it would stain them with black rubber, but worked like a charm using gloves, eliminating both problems. 10/10 I completely recommend it if you´re broke like I was, Even so, when given the chance I´ll try it again and covering it with a second "normal" bar tape for the extra cushion
@JeffRevell Жыл бұрын
Being a fabric tape I’m wondering how it does with moisture. If you are riding and get rained on does the tape stay wet longer than a more traditional tape?
@brannmacfinnchad9056 Жыл бұрын
I do leatherworking often enough to keep veg tan on hand. As a result, I just cut a long strip when I need bar tape, albeit usually with a seam near the hoods. Super grippy on the hands, natural cooling when wet, lasts years of heavy use. That said...you do have to rewrap it a few times in the beginning as the leather stretches over time. And I wrap it from the top as well. I use a gel pad underneath.
@DominiqueB Жыл бұрын
do you treat the leather tape at all ? I have leather tape that's been going on 5 or 6 years already of year-round hard commuting, that never got any oil or grease, and is still looking fine, but wonder if I should, or if there's a downside to that.
@The1trueDave Жыл бұрын
3:22 that is actually a really useful workshop tip if you are using conventional tape! I went back to using self-adhesive fabric tape a couple of years ago. Sure it isn't padded but I just work out where I need my padding and use scrap bits of old padded bar tape, hold them in place with electrical tape, then cover the lot with fabric tape...
@mobilemiall Жыл бұрын
When applying conventional bar wrap, who says you have to remove all the paper covering the adhesive strip? Remove just small sections to keep things in place. How tightly you wrap it in the first place comes into play too.
@johntillery4584 Жыл бұрын
The Wolf Tooth supple tape is amazing as well, no adhesive and very thick for cushioning.
@timlagas Жыл бұрын
No issues with Fizik Terra handlebar tape. Not superstrong adhesive. I retaped it 3 times, stil 👌🏻
@dvploeg1 Жыл бұрын
When I worked in bike shops 1978-1984, we always started by the stem, and cut a piece to hide the triangle at the brake lever. Generally easy to finish with bar end plug, except bar-end shifters, you had to minimize the excess. Inquiring when did starting location change?
@weatheranddarkness15 күн бұрын
Dunno, when I first started in a shop, beginning of this century, it was already like that. It was also uncommon for even old bikes to come wrapped the other way, though not unheard of. So I'd guess by the early '90s it had changed.
Жыл бұрын
I had an old bike here in Brazil like 10 years ago, but the bike was from de 70's. Back then, handlebar tapes didn't have glue, you just rolled them and they stayed in place
@yurimow Жыл бұрын
might want to try specialized roubaix tape. mine has been taken on and off three times by now, has been in the wash once and it still sticks... a bit... when dry
@benzzoy Жыл бұрын
Wrapping top-down is a no-go for me. When the tape is wrapped top-down, you'll end up with the overlap facing the wrong way (up), meaning the overlap will tend flip over after some use, particularly around the brake hoods. Been there, done there, even got the T-shirt. Also, the tape seems to not be stretchy, which will make a nice installation harder and perhaps even frustrating. If you don't like the adhesive, take it out before you use the handlebar tape. Most adhesives are just narrow double-side tape. Or get handlebar tape that has non-adhesive silicone backing.
@weatheranddarkness15 күн бұрын
The edge flip can be more or less of an issue depending on the qualities of the tape. Definitely pronounced on that stuff the CALL cork, but is actually just foam. Pretty much not a thing on stiffer materials like Fizik microfiber, if wrapped properly in the first place, or the rubber ones like Supacaz or Brooks.
@Alistair_Spence Жыл бұрын
Just wondering, why can't you wrap it from the ends of the bars up towards the stem?
@matt.3.14 Жыл бұрын
I think if you start from the top, you can wrap over itself to start, and then the bar-end holds the other end. You could wrap from the bottom like "normal", but you'd have to cut and tape (or some other solution) at the top.
@Alistair_Spence Жыл бұрын
@@matt.3.14 I figured that had to be it but the problem there is that I always find that the edges of the tape get rolled back when it's applied that way.
@bombasticbissell Жыл бұрын
Like someone said, just like the 60s and 70s. We also started the tape at the top and stuffed the end in the bar. But my hands rubbed the exposed edge. That's how the tape was usually destroyed. I'm interested if that happens on your bike.
@content-i-guess Жыл бұрын
Where can I get this in the US? The site doesn’t have the option.
@valonnia Жыл бұрын
When installing new bar tape, I rub the adhesive side on the front tire and it becomes only mildly tacky. I've never had a problem reusing it or having residue on the bars. FWIW.
@MisterAndyS Жыл бұрын
I had some cloth tape from BTP. It was pretty durable. After a crash, I replaced it not because it was too shredded -- it was just a little shredded -- but because of all the blood on it. I didn't think of laundering it.
@tomrees4812 Жыл бұрын
The first plastic bar tape I remember was Benotto. Functionally it was pretty rubbish because it was so slippery when wet. But Francesco Moser used it so it had to be good, right? Because cloth tape ends up fraying I bought some leather sleeves for my touring bike, cannot remember the name. It had a pre punched hole to accommodate a Campagnolo brake lever clip, which I did have since they were the best lever available in 1978. The sleeves were expensive, a pain to fit, not long enough, glued in place with Evo-Stick and when it rained the dye leaked so my hands were stained black.
@ShadLife Жыл бұрын
Why from the top? You start from the bottom so your hands don't work against the grain. If the seam on the overlap is upward and also going towards the stem the tape will move and slide easier. That's why you always want to start from the bottom.
@thomascyron1773 Жыл бұрын
This is perhaps true for thicker “modern” style tape. However, with woven tape such as Grepp the direction matters less because you can pull it hard and it lies flat if you wrap it correctly. I prefer the look and there is absolutely no problem if undoing the tape.
@JoeS433-q6k3 ай бұрын
I love that idea of taking it off and re washing, but also the fact you can buy other colors that you can easily switch when you feel like it. Also at the same time you're not wasting money you get to reuse or sell.
@barrymonaghan6593 Жыл бұрын
One thing that has intrigued me is that all the videos I've seen on bike cleaning and restorations is that you never see them cleaning the handlebars if the tape is being changed. Great to see a make of handlebar tape that doesn't have adhesive. Well done video as always.
@markholm7050 Жыл бұрын
One can wrap bottom up from the bar ends to the hoods and then top down from the stem to the hoods, hiding the cut ends under the hoods. That’s how I did it when I harlequin wrapped my bars. Come to think of it, one could go the other way round, too. You’d just have to tape or twine both ends.
@PaulJakma3 ай бұрын
A twine whipping knot to finish off the end looks really good. ;)
@weatheranddarkness15 күн бұрын
@@PaulJakma not so great on the bar end methinks?
@fittonbikes Жыл бұрын
I am about to change my bar tape but have already bought the standard stick stuff. Will certainly look out for this on my next change of tape.
@gordonwatt7813 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering what handle bars are on your bike that you just taped.
@charlesblithfield6182 Жыл бұрын
This is a great product, reusable, washable, no sticky guage, the future of bar tape! They’d be smart if they had an option for including gel pads with the product. I’m gonna look for this for my vintage Bianchi which needs new tape.
@danandkiko Жыл бұрын
I may try this kind of tape in the future. Thanks.
@seanchung3372 Жыл бұрын
I noticed the front rack for handlebar bag..can anyone tell me what rack that is
@metalwheelz Жыл бұрын
For future reference - use red scotch-brite pads to knock off the stuck bits on your bars. The red has abrasives, the white ones are nonabrasive, the grey ones are in between, and the green is super aggressive. You can also spray a small amount of citrus cleaner on to help it go a little faster.
@kevinmoorejr.9418 Жыл бұрын
some acetone and 800 grit sandpaper works great too.
@HabLoxFla Жыл бұрын
Lighter Fluid works great.. @@kevinmoorejr.9418
@dperreno Жыл бұрын
Yes to this. A good citrus cleaner works wonders. I use De-Solv-It
@echd1 Жыл бұрын
you put some contact cleaner (hexane) and wipe, done
@keplerssomnium5 ай бұрын
WD-40 also do the trick
@multipleman4870 Жыл бұрын
Enve bar tape has a silicone backer that is grippy but not sticky, allowing you to reuse it multiple times without any issues. I've rewrapped my bars 3 times now with the same roll of Enve bar tape and could easily do it again. It's got a little cushion and doesn't get slippery in the rain. Expensive, but worth it imho.
@veriest1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Arundel tape for a while now that doesn’t have adhesive on it and is soft and squishy. I originally got it for the lack of adhesive.
@lomicwind Жыл бұрын
Curious to see how it goes with mud and dirt. I don't see myself untapping my handlebar every month to wash it, even if it is easy to do.
@jlawless4525 Жыл бұрын
LOL - I don't see myself doing that, either
@no_Ray_bang Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of this, and would 100% get on it if I rode with Curly bars. I do use tape on my butterfly bars, but I put some brooks cambium tape on them years ago and haven't needed to change it, but I can swap out controls without de-taping. Great looking product, designed reusability in a product is edgy AF in this day and age
@thombatty1950 Жыл бұрын
Do you know which distributor carries this? I would be willing to stock it in my shop.
@greppcyclingstuff5870 Жыл бұрын
feel free to contact us via our website contact form. I'd be happy to discuss with you more in detail.
@bleednate Жыл бұрын
Can someone with handlebar end shifters put this on? Should these people avoid "finishing tape," as it might gunk up the cloth at those locations? Which gel inserts are you speaking about? Pls and thanks in advance!
@aroundoz6 ай бұрын
I might have to give this a try. Most of the thick tape I have used eventually compresses and loses its cushion over time anyway and honestly, I never seem to miss the cush factor even without gloves. I couldn't tell how you worked it at the hoods, but you might figure 8 it to cover the small, exposed area. Being able to figure 8 with thinner tape is also a benefit.
@stevehassler Жыл бұрын
seems like the woven rubber bits could either stick to the bar or eventually dry up and crumble. also, why must you wrap down? hand friction can eventually catch the edges and make a mess.
@bastadimasta Жыл бұрын
I make my own from handlebar wrap from Eva foam and double sided adhesive tape for less than 2 dollars.
@RetroOnSpeedDial5 ай бұрын
my 1976 Soma Competition has cloth bar grips. They are so abrasive! My hands hurt after a good climb which is obviously down to technique, but man it's rough. They are also impossible to clean. I don't ride with gloves because I'm no pro, but if you do it's a none-issue unless you're out in the rain or live in a dry dusty environment like me.
@erikschmidt9670 Жыл бұрын
ive had some tape with some type of silicone instead of glue, i was able to use it over and over long time
@daniellarson3068 Жыл бұрын
This was good. I started watching your videos as an aid to replacing handlebars due to numb hands. Your comment about this tape not having planned obsolescence as a lot of recent bike stuff is good to know about. Nice color too. Now I just wait for the handlebars as they travel on the slow boat from China.
@Mosely2007 Жыл бұрын
I broke both hands grip ND numbness an issue. I ride gravel thousands of miles yearly. My 3 gravel bikes all have the Red Shift stem that isolates my hands better than other product . Love their bars too.
@daniellarson3068 Жыл бұрын
@@Mosely2007 I'll keep that in mind. However as I have an old Quil type stem, I'd need an adapter. I'm on the West side of Michigan and it will soon be ideal biking weather. Hang in there.
@Fetherko Жыл бұрын
Did you raise your handlebar height in the process? That's where I am now with wrist "nerve pain" . Thx
@daniellarson3068 Жыл бұрын
@@Fetherko Yes - The bars raised to the max. The handlebar is a straight bar. I tried bar ends and gel gloves, but I have too much weight on my wrists. I think with the new handlebar, I will both have less weight on the wrists as the posture will be more upright. Thx.
@davidscott6164 Жыл бұрын
Crust's website doesn't say anything about wrapping it top down, and their pictures show it wrapped bottom up...?
@PathLessPedaledTV Жыл бұрын
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@jimbrittain402 Жыл бұрын
I also want your experience with removing the end caps. I think that's gonna suck. But there appears to be way plenty of tape to do the double-reverse-diamond-wrap under the brake levers (which would also allow the optimal inside-to-out wrap direction on the drops). I'll go check it out. OTOH, I like to use cheap, bright tape, and change colors every now and then. I guess I could buy a few colors of this and keep 'em in storage... Please update with your experience.
@PathLessPedaledTV Жыл бұрын
I popped out the end cap with a screw driver no problem.
@Ma_Ba Жыл бұрын
@@PathLessPedaledTV I need a lesson with bar end shifters. I have secondary brakes and bar end shifters. So far have used local shop to wrap bars, but they slide open and use electrical tape gunk up top. I hate the dirty adhesive from electrical tape gooping me all summer. I am interested. This reminds me of Ace bandages for sprains.
@DominiqueB Жыл бұрын
@@Ma_Ba can't help with the shifters, but for the shop-applied electrical tape, it's easy to remove it as soon as you get the bike back, before the glue has time to go dark magic on you, and replace with some waxed thread (many video tutorials on youtube to see how to apply, very easy once you've done it once.)
@Ma_Ba Жыл бұрын
@@DominiqueB Found one using twine and option to use shellac old school.
@travischapman6763 Жыл бұрын
I've always just wrapper the new tape over what remnants of the ole bar tape was there with no problem. Also never had a problem re wrapping tape. Plus, with no cushioning it's a big ol no go.
@-RM- Жыл бұрын
I've starting using Serfas silicone tape which also has no adhesive. Easy on...Easy off. And it's very soft and comfortable.
@thomascray Жыл бұрын
I feel like they could build in more cushion by using a thicker amount of rubber... very curious - may have to give them a try...
@michaellofaso1351 Жыл бұрын
Much different the the camp and go slow rattler tape?
@michaelcostner3623 Жыл бұрын
Profile Drive Gel...and it's even longer than the regular Drive tape. Silicone backing, nice stretch, super easy to wrap, nice padding without being too thick.
@honzikck82 Жыл бұрын
There are many brands that make tape without glue. So whats the problem?
@jmkc740 Жыл бұрын
Ive never ran a drop bar, they hurt me so i just never ran them, currently running the Surly SUNRISE BAR & i love them but i still wanna set of the Jones aluminium wider bars ta try and they can be wrapped for sum dif pos along w/ grips is why this vid caught my interest💯👍
@christophercervantes5346 Жыл бұрын
It looks like you had a lot of length left. I'm wondering if you actual have enough tape left to start wrapping at the hoods and then go towards the stem, and then back to the bottom of the drops. Basically, is there enough length to double-wrap the top of the drop bars?
@PathLessPedaledTV Жыл бұрын
No.
@Dave435l Жыл бұрын
Put my Brooks leather bar tape on 13 years ago and treat it once a year at the same time as the saddle. I dig this though, my get some to 'try on my wife's bike'
@WyattGalinski3 ай бұрын
Do you need to buy two rolls for one full handlebar job?
@jamesmacglashan5982 Жыл бұрын
I am curious to see if this tops my current favourite cheap tape, which is old inner tubes, or my close second which is three layers of hockey tape. ... The hockey tape does have the adhesive problem and is single use.
@weatheranddarkness15 күн бұрын
Also worse when it comes to removal than Velox or Cateye. That glue is quite something. Live in Canada and a lot of people 'fix' their bars with hockey tape, and it can be real messy when you have to change it out for them.
@aaronharris4111 Жыл бұрын
I've been using Planetbike organic cotton bar tape for several years. The glue isn't as aggressive as Newbaum's, so it doesn't leave a lot of residue, and I can easily re-use it or re-wrap if I want to change quill stems. In a perfect world removable face-plate quill stems wouldn't be hopelessly out of stock, and apparently NONE OF US LIVE IN THAT WORLD. So I choose reusable cloth wraps as much as possible. I picked up some Grepp Gripper tape recently, Olivine--because I always buy grey tape and thought a change would be nice. But my frame is lilac, so it looks like I was going for a Joker-themed build, and I absolutely hate it. Now I'm hoping that I can adjust the color with amber shellac, but no one seems to be stocking that anymore. The moral of this story is buy grey or brown and that I still don't know if you can shellac the Grepp Gripper tape.
@mrhankbotful Жыл бұрын
I really like the Brooks Microfiber bar tape. There is essentially no adhesive to be worried about and can be re-wrapped pretty easily. Worth a try.
@qcriverrat Жыл бұрын
I think I might have this on one of my bikes. (I bought it used. It's some kind of Brooks non-leather tape.) Very comfortable.
@daviec1816 Жыл бұрын
Same, in my experience. Fizik and Brooks (leather and cloth) don't go to HAM with the adhesive, and are both durable enough products I can get 2 or 3 wraps out of them before it's too mangled to comply. (al biet, after the first wrap, it never looks quite as good and will have fades and warping, but still good)
@toddbrisbois6788 Жыл бұрын
Russ, your titles are turning more into “clickbait” vs actually what you are reviewing. You are technically reviewing an “alternative” tape. You already have a good channel, stop trying to deceive people. You already bagged on a rear rack system you never even used.
@ZenEndurance4 ай бұрын
Very cool! I personally use silicone grips everywhere I can. Both my bikes with aerobars have them on the extensions and a couple of them have it on the drops. I have one bike with tape from the tops to just below the hoods, then silicone grips the rest of the way down the drops.
@jasonferrier Жыл бұрын
I like the concept, but need more cushioning since I don’t always ride with gloves around town. I have found a few brands of “foam” tape that don’t have adhesive on the back - maybe PlanetBike is my one like this. It’s hard to know if it comes with adhesive or not since most manufacturers don’t say.
@goed1adit Жыл бұрын
I wonder if we could use 1 inches nylon climbing webbing 😅
@adam1885282 Жыл бұрын
I'd be concerned wrapping the "wrong" way means riding in the drops degrades the tape. There's a reason you start from the bottom.
@IvanKhramov Жыл бұрын
I actually always wrapped my tape without exposing the adhesive, or just used a non-adherent tape, so reusing it was never an issue
@charlietannert-lerner4769 Жыл бұрын
Arundel synth gecko is very similar product except it's made of all rubber instead of all cloth. so it actually has cushion
@howardkurtus7069 Жыл бұрын
I run what I call a princess wrap (double wrap with gel), this would have too little cushion
@timoakley277 Жыл бұрын
How often do you have to replace bar tape? For me it is a once a decade job. I'm perplexed
@weatheranddarkness15 күн бұрын
Depends what you use, and how you use your bike. Even the toughest tapes won't deal with several OTBs a year.
@if_not_fixed_its_broken Жыл бұрын
Very old school style of tape. Been out for along time but it did not have the rubber on the inside like this think ill have to get some. Just for the clasic feel and look
@rimtism123 Жыл бұрын
I like that it seems as if they don't skimp on the length. I feel like a lot of tapes are made with 42cm bars in mind.
@kruschrhoades Жыл бұрын
I noticed you wrap top down. Why? Does that not peel easier?
@kruschrhoades Жыл бұрын
Just watched enough of the video to have my question answered. 🤦♀️
@Llamabanger Жыл бұрын
Good going Grepp, Russ. Looks great, drunken wrap technique !
@jlawless4525 Жыл бұрын
LOL
@jlawless4525 Жыл бұрын
HAS to be the worst wrap job i've ever seen
@dperreno Жыл бұрын
This stuff looks great! I just removed the cloth tape from a vintage bike from around 1975. I sprayed it down with a citris solvent, let it soak in, and then started peeling. The tape came off in long strands and small tufts of fabric, but most of the adhesive stayed on the bars. I ended up using a plastic scraper to scrape off the goopy adhesive. Yuk. Starting at the stem and working towards the bar end is the traditional way of wrapping bar tape. I think it changed with the advent of these thick rubbery tapes that can't be easily stuffed into the bar ends. And, perhaps, because the electrical tape wrap near the stem helps hold the shift and brake cables in place? (not an issue with bikes in days gone by).
@cospinan Жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree on how un reusable the new stuff is. What I do when I am setting a bike... so I may need to undo de tape... I use an inner tube. cut in half... it is great!!! and free... an to add cushioning, I use inside before putting the inner tube tape a piece of foamy materials... no too thick or a pice of old handelbar tape. you can also put it doble (the inner tube tape but two paces) or play with how much tension you use yo put it in place.
@GeekonaBike Жыл бұрын
I like it, it reminds me of the Velox cloth tape we used back in the day.
@namebrandmason Жыл бұрын
Velox Tressotar is still manufactured. It's a little hard to find in colors other than black, but Velo Orange usually has some in stock.
@The2808erik Жыл бұрын
I can recommend 100% silicone bar tape, like ESI RTC Wrap. It only sticks to it self and is washable.
@djohnson1981 Жыл бұрын
I thought there were lots of non-adhesive bar tape options? I know the Salsa gel tape just has a silicone gripper and I've reused it many times.
@PathLessPedaledTV Жыл бұрын
There’s a few and they’re not labeled very well.
@thecheshirecat5564 Жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised by some fizik tape recently when it survived an unroll an re-roll without damage from the (actually weak) adhesive. That said, thanks for the info: the machine washable aspect will be the winner here if true -canvas bar tape as just a strip of canvas is around since donkey’s era AFAIK, I didn’t get there yet because they say it’s difficult to get clean once dirty…
@slowwerthensnot Жыл бұрын
Esi silicone or wolf tooth are other options to consider
@andyamos8594 Жыл бұрын
Great idea! I've been spending the last 3 months developing a break and gear lever connecrtion link to allow hanledbar swap-outs and almost ready to look for manufacture!!
@philtomlinson8220 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a great product! Makes so much sense, and really pleased to see it's available from Alpkit in the UK. Consider wrapping the bars in an old inner tube before using the tape to add a "little" cushioning.
@adamweb Жыл бұрын
I have one of the new Ribble bikes with tapeless handlebars. The drops have a grippy sandpaper like coating in the paint. While I do enjoy the tapeless setup, if you ride without gloves you'll immediately notice sweat and dead skin building up around the hoods.
@chrisfreemanca Жыл бұрын
Been running this on my road bike for a while and really like it, pretty sure same color. Doesn’t seem to be discoloring as quickly as my previous celeste green tape.
@camt1818 Жыл бұрын
I NEED THIS. I'm also fiddling with my bikes a lot and swapping parts. I buy cheap tape for that reason but it's still $20 every time I need to remove it. $34 sounds like a good deal to me.
@jty9631 Жыл бұрын
The handlebar grip I've found never had adhesive. I'm sure with adhesive it's easier to fit, but definitely more difficult to remove. In tennis rackets, they never use adhesive on grip tape, it's not needed. You just need to pull it a bit taut so that it'll keep it on.
@intermodal_0 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had good luck using a heat gun so “loosen up” the adhesive when removing stubborn bar tape. That said, it can still be a pretty unpleasant process on older bars so I fully support this adhesive free alternative!
@benboo6351 Жыл бұрын
Would this work with bar end shifters at all?
@jarrettp9715 Жыл бұрын
Cloth bar tape was pretty standard back in the day I believe. First bars I ever wrapped 15 years ago were with cloth tape and starting at the stem