STOP Using the Wrong Protein Powder… Here’s What Really Works!

[@valeriecaputa713]

Your actively learning more helps us all to lean more too. It also further enhances my respect and appreciation of you.

[@baba-sm1fm]

I admire the integrity and the courage you have shown in owning the mistake. We all learn as we go and it is clear that your intentions are to help us along the way, we are learning together and what better way than to have a physician guiding us. I am happy and excited to have found your channel, I just recently became a member of The Collective group since I just learned that I have osteoporosis. Although I have not been working out as I should have, on the days when my diet is poor, I have been using a Whey Powder called muscle feast, they source their whey from Europe which has more stringent regulations, not sure if they still source from A2 beta-casein cattle, this was the case up until 2 years ago when I reached out to them because I am lactose intolerant and also because I want to avoid triggering inflammation. It is more expensive but at least I know it is what it says it is.

[@delausa]

I really really respect this re-evaluation of past advice. This kind of transparency fosters trust. I’m sensitive to whey and a lot of other animal proteins, so I’ve been using a sprouted unflavored plant protein to which I add additional lucine. I also use Optimal Aminos. After being vegan for about 30 years, I’ve started adding some animal protein back into my diet based on your thoughts on the topic, which I’m doing deliberately and slowly, starting with fish (which I seem to be tolerating very well). I, too can admit a mistake when confronted with evidence 😉

[@paulelkins425]

Big kudos to Dr. Doug for admitting his mistake! Most people would sweep this type of error under the rug and quietly remove the product from their recommendations. Some less ethical people would ignore the new information to keep sales incentives flowing. Not only did Dr. Doug own up to the error but he created a detailed video of it, researched the root cause for the error, and provided advise for other options (specific brands forthcoming). It's refreshing to see such a credible and knowledgeable resource of health information. The YT and OsteoCollective communities are very lucky to have Dr. Doug as a resource! My main source of protein powder is GF Whey Protein Isolate Cold MicroFiltered. I'm fine with using a blend of GF Whey Isolate/Concentrate as long as Isolate is the primary ingredient. It's cheaper, mixes better, and tastes better. However, people with dairy sensitivities have more problems with Whey concentrate vs isolate. I also mix in a combo of plant protein into my drinks. It ends up being about 1/3rd pea/hemp and 2/3rds Whey. The plant protein sources provide fiber and I figure balance out the whey. Probably not needed but my wife is sensitive to dairy proteins so she only uses the plant protein blend (and collagen peptides). If she didn't buy the plant protein I would just probably go with Whey. What are your thoughts on Egg White Protein as an alternative to Beef protein powder for those sensitive to dairy?

[@lisayoga]

@@paulelkins425 I think I’m gonna take lactase enzyme powder whenever I drink the way protein isolate just in case I have a problem with the lactose

[@paulelkins425]

@lisayoga If you go with a pure Whey protein isolate (no concentrate) there is no lactose in it.

[@lisayoga]

@ thank you. I’m also gonna buy amino acid in capsule form so I might take that instead.! do you know if the isolate has any casein in it cause I’m sensitive to that also

[@paulelkins425]

@@lisayoga Whey Isolate should have zero casein in it. However, for anyone with a severe allergy to casein they should avoid all dairy due to potential cross contamination during production and packaging.

[@bellaiz6761]

Using egg white protein- 2.36g leucine per serve. What are your thoughts on that, egg white protein never gets a mention?

[@AmyJo-54501]

excellent video! thank you. I may try whey again - history tells me my body doesn't like it but it has been a few years since I've tried it.

[@New-York-Attitude]

I use whey but I was curious about this product. I appreciate Dr Doug’s being forthright about his mistake.

[@SaskiaDelarondeMusic]

I am totally confused about protein powder. I totally quit it for now until I make sense of it all. That said I have to say it is hard to get enough protein any given day.

[@marynewman9180]

The fact that it's so difficult to consume enough protein in a day makes me wonder if it's even truly healthy to consume that much (kidneys in particular).

[@heatherhigson342]

Same .. to many to choose from and not knowing which is the best

[@Suz47]

Really appreciate the honesty. We all just act based on the information that we have at that time and as long as we make the proper corrections along the way, its all good. I had seen beef isolate on the shelves but didn't know much about it. I've been using New Zealand grass fed whey protein powder since I started working out seriously a year ago. I looked very sarcopenic and have since put on 1.5 inch to the circumference on my biceps so my protein intake is likely adequate. Hopefully the bones are following suit with their strength. I just had a look at the amino acid profile on the container and it's almost 4 g of leucine per 35g serving.

[@WasOnce.]

I have been using Hemp, but maybe I will change back to whey. Thanks for the information.

[@annat93]

I use Naked Pea protein. It says 2523 mg Leucine per serving. Isn't that sufficient?

[@anne-louisegoldie]

I've got a few at the moment. Pea isolate and hemp, collagen with elastin and hyaluronic acid, and, literally yesterday, I started taking whey protein powder. Thank you for highlighting the Leucine component. I have heard about leucine before but had assumed my collagen and plant powders were adequate. I've seen leucine powder sold by itself, so if I can find a gluten-free one, I could add it to the plant and collagen powders. As you say, we don't want to waste those, and it's quite expensive for all these supplements. Thank you 😊xx

[@vickilahtinen7254]

Currently using soy protein have just swapped from whey protein isolate I have leucine separately to add Thank you for talking about this

[@teresacherin6624]

Thank you. I am using Paleovalley Bone Broth Protein Powder and it also has less than 1 gram of luecine per serving. So I will need to purchase whey protein powder-please post your recommendations for that soon. I also use creatine, collagen, and lactoferrin.

[@lisayoga]

Is creatine powder needed too?

[@amymyers1080]

I have been trying Oath Nutrition Clear Whey Protein. They have really good flavors that taste like juice drinks instead of shakes. Protein 20g Leucine 2.7g per serving. I do have a question as someone who has had kidney stones in the past, should I be concerned about getting too much protein?

[@eileenmcmahon2373]

What about protein shakes?? Doesn't lutien bind to carbs...

[@jbondy6395]

I use Paleovalley Bone Broth Protein, chocolate flavor. Now I see it only has 0.63 g of leucine per scoop. I use two scoops, but that still falls short of the 2.5 needed, so I will add something else. Darn! But when I examine the rest of my diet, I am getting plenty of leucine from meat and dairy.

[@janetmills9058]

I use Equip prime protein

[@deboncariboulake]

I just started using LEVELS Grass Fed Whey Protein concentrate. Amino Acid profile right on the label. 2.5 grams Leucine. Ingredients: Whey protein concentrate, cocoa powder, sunflower lecithin, stevia leaf extract, monk fruit. The best tasting chocolate whey I’ve ever tried. I was using a different brand, unflavored but I found it still had a tinge of flavor that tainted anything I put it in.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Glad you found one that you like!

[@alethastewart1556]

I use Paradise Naturals grass fed and hormone free bone broth powder and collagen is it any good?

[@vickyg1021]

Good morning! Thank you for your helpful informative tutorials! What are your thoughts on liquid concentrated protein such as Pro-Stat as an alternative protein source? I no longer enjoy consuming meat products and am lactose intolerant and have IBS-m. Thank you for your input.

[@juliebowers8568]

I have been using Ballerina Farm whey protein powder with colostrum. It’s delish and doesn’t upset my stomach, also no artificial sweeteners.

[@alethastewart1556]

There is leucine in algaecal collagen 372 mg. Is that enough a day?

[@janrajek8634]

So much confusion about protein powders how can you tell if they contain heavy metals?

[@MelloCello55]

ConsumerLabs has a report on protein powders they tested for metals and other things but it costs money to subscribe for a year. I feel like for the amount of time and money I spend researching and buying supplements etc, it’s well worth it.

[@veronicaheaney3464]

I tend to add either whey protein, egg white protein or beef protein isolate, depending on the recipe I am using it in as they don’t react the same in all recipes.

[@MelloCello55]

I have been using a raw, organic, whey from pastured cows in Ireland that has supposedly been checked for and passed heavy metal contamination. Then recently I joined a Facebook “challenge” for weight loss and we were supposed to use plant protein powder which is supposedly easier to digest. I do some of each every day, since have them now, and also Healthy Bones collagen powder and essential amino acids powder, all because these are easier and lower calorie than Whole Foods for 100 grams of protein per day. I’m trying to rebuild a bit of muscle and bone with strength training.

[@lindsaymcdowell463]

Any advise on designs for health bone broth protein?

[@VanneKoontz]

I found trouble digesting with the A1 US milk protein and trouble with pea protein. But I have great success eating clean as possible organic non-processed animal protein, white beans, and nuts/seeds. I supplement with Essential Amino Acids every morning and THAT has been GREAT for me. I’m post menopausal and have just had a new body composition and have doubled my muscle mass and lost fat in one year. AND my bones and joints are more sturdy.

[@Henrik.Yngvesson]

Today there are many Whey powders with added enzymes to help with the lactose. Whey is by far the best and cheapest protein source. You can also get leucine powder on it's own that you could add if you need to the other ones.

[@massagemary0121]

OWYN - vegan already mixed for mid-afternoon source (has no sugar alcohols that mess my gut up). Vital proteins collagen peptides & TrueFit whey based protein + ka'chava for mid-morning source

[@lisayoga]

I’ve been using Hemp!

[@suanneamos4491]

I use Primal Kitchen whey protein….the vanilla coconut one. Any thoughts on that one? I only use it a couple of times a week to avoid any digestive issues.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

We like a few primal kitchen products! Of course always prioritizing food first and aim for that 1g of protein per pound of ideal body weight.

[@lisayoga]

Can people get as much protein absorption just by eating food? Like chickens? And can we buy leucine in supplements?

[@Dr_DougLucas]

You can absolutely get all the protein you need from whole foods like chicken, fish, eggs, and dairy. In fact, we prefer it! Yes, leucine is available as a supplement if you’re looking to optimize muscle support!

[@amyrentzel8062]

Lactose intolerance.... But thinking of trying whey isolate

[@WhereDogsThrive]

I just ordered Kono Nutrition’s new beef protein powder. Dairy free!!! 22 grams per serving of protein. I just inquired about the leucine so we’ll see what they say.😉 I cannot consume casein so whey was never an option. I also wanted 100% grass fed. I will use this to supplement to help me get 125 grams of protein a day. I can’t consume the usual high protein plants so this will really help.

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Hope you like it!

[@lisayoga]

Kind of grosses me out drinking powdered beef muscle anyway! So I will start taking the whey then and add it to my delicious hemp, but I don’t know if I’ll be getting reactions from the whey so hopefully I don’t have low level information!

[@lisayoga]

What about taking amino acids instead of the protein drink because I bought a bottle of Pure encapsulated amino acid caps and there’s lots of leucine and other amino acids. Also, would he recommend creatine?

[@patty6375]

I have a lactose issue, so when I use whey protein, I can tolerate a half scoop but not a whole scoop at a time. And if I 'build up' too much, I can take a lactose intolerance enzyme pill to help occasionally. Just a thought that someone may try half doses.

[@cathygraf2067]

I use Equip protein powder - unflavored. Now I’m really wondering what to use, I can’t do whey……..

[@suzannerodriguez1869]

I’ve been using Whey vanilla protein powder.

[@c.dyanne7388]

I use Equip Beef Isolate. Whey protein doesn't set well with me.

[@belindafernandes5712]

Flavcity protein one of the few that taste good and contains clean ingredients!!

[@annaburns5382]

I don't take protein powder. I am fully carnivore. I get my protein from my food.

[@tinachase6688]

Trim Healthy Mama Whey and Plant protein powders (fortified with aminos).

[@marthadahlen7237]

What about the Perfect Amino product?

[@KimLyons-u9c]

Do you still recommend Algae Cal Collagen?

[@lisayoga]

I had no idea they make one!

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Yes! AlgaeCal Collagen is a great option for supporting bone health! Here is a link for 15% off: algaecal.info/OHHplatinum

[@michaelamorteguy4233]

I’ve been using Mikuna powder, the chocho bean

[@dotjeff4543]

My whey protein powder has the amino acid profile right on the label. A two scoop serving which is 28 grams says that it has a whopping 10,350mg of leucine which is more than 10 grams! I was shocked that it had so much. I usually use only one scoop which would be five grams of leucine. I guess I’m good then.😊

[@dianeleirer9878]

What is the brand of the whey protein powder you consume ?

[@lindagrant3232]

I think there can be problems with too much leucine, you might want to research that.

[@amyrentzel8062]

With a CBS mutation, I should be on a low protein diet. It's quite a difficult situation. They say max 50g a day, but my goal is closer to 100. Ugh, hope I'm not lining myself up for ammonia trouble or homocysteine issues...

[@pebblesbarton3974]

Whey protein products have emulsifiers. I am afraid they will emulsify my phospholipids, even in small amounts. What say you? Thanks

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Emulsifiers in small amounts are generally well-tolerated. If you’re concerned, you might prefer minimal-ingredient whey options like Transparent Labs or stick to whole food protein sources!

[@lisayoga]

Can people get as much protein absorption just by eating food? Like chickens?

[@amyrentzel8062]

I use hemp protein powder

[@ShannonBettis]

Garden life Oatmilk protien

[@PattyC1211]

Equip grass fed beef protein

[@shaz4873]

What happens if we consume to much protein is this bad for us and how would we know if we are getting to much or even to little I weight 7stone slim builds and don’t know how much protein I need I eat two eggs almost every day and eat chicken allot around 4 days a week I don’t like salads/ vegetables very much nor fish unless it’s in batter but will occasionally eat tuna with mayonnaise on a jacket potato I’m not a bigger fan of red meat and only eat this occasionally Things like sausages bacon I never touch I have gallbladder problems along with Gerd and hiatus hernia which does limit me in what I can and can’t eat Should I use a protein powder

[@Dr_DougLucas]

Unfortunately, I can't give personal advice through YT comments without more info. However, if you join The Osteocollective (www.optimalhumanhealth.com/osteocollective) or my free masterclass (www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone) you can ask questions there.

[@JudgeJulieLit]

"Beef" liver and other orgsn meats of cows are not "muscle."

[@JudgeJulieLit]

Ditto, beef bones as in broth and protein powders.

[@maryascher]

Dr Osborne Warrior Protein - unflavored, chocolate, or vanilla.

[@phoenixmassey]

I use Isopure whey.

[@jgswmom]

Egg white protein.

[@hollyblakemore4242]

Tera's organic whey

[@AmySusanMacLaughlin]

Vital Proteins collegen peptides... Costco

[@jrrose4]

Vital protein

[@Maintain_Decorum]

Same, and sometimes Bulletproof.

[@courtenayharre511]

Whey

[@debjordan4399]

Just real food, mostly ruminant animal meat.

[@shaz4873]

What happens if we consume to much protein is this bad for us and how would we know if we are getting to much or even to little I weight 7stone slim builds and don’t know how much protein I need I eat two eggs almost every day and eat chicken allot around 4 days a week I don’t like salads/ vegetables very much nor fish unless it’s in batter but will occasionally eat tuna with mayonnaise on a jacket potato I’m not a bigger fan of red meat and only eat this occasionally Things like sausages bacon I never touch I have gallbladder problems along with Gerd and hiatus hernia which does limit me in what I can and can’t eat Should I use a protein powder and how much