VEVOR 10kg Gas Furnace review FIRST MELT

[@siteseeing7150]

BIG STACK D CASTING is the best one

[@rastaralph7154]

I have one of them devil forges and that's where I got the idea from 👍💚💛❤️

[@bobdentonjr.4952]

Watch him every Friday, he is bad ass

[@americasfavoritehoarder]

Yep, That's why I bought a Devils Forge also.

[@all_handmade]

Well Buddy, I didnt expect a video that serious. Well done👏

[@steelisthemeal]

Ian can match up Most certainly

[@azmoz1321]

Health and Safety Aron here again 😊 Before you add scrap to the crucible I think your meant to leave it on top for a few mins to make sure there’s no water trapped inside , as if there is the water can boil when it hits the molten metal and explode molten metal everywhere . Lol I’m like a health and safety officer sitting waiting to pounce in your comments :-)) Great review Ian , I clicked on the U.K. link not a bad price for the kit

[@Man-in-da-shed]

There is a danger of wet cans being added. Good tip on the preheat

[@rastaralph7154]

Also the stone goes in the bottom of the forge for the crucible to sit on 👍

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I kinda thought it might

[@sharkscrapper]

A fun review Ian, thanks. Can't wait till I start casting. I'm sure by now you've figured out the mass of the ingot depends on the density of the metal you're melting. If you filled that crucible with lead, the ingots would be considerably heavier than the aluminum.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

😳. It Dawned on me eventually. Or as SteveSrt pointed out the 3.1 number on the chart is the weight per Crucible

[@sharkscrapper]

@@Man-in-da-shed 👍

[@jr-a-cat]

Your H.O.A will love it ,if done at the cage watch for the smoke detector

[@ralphmourik]

So many things I can comment on and give tips about but overal I think you did great for your first time using this furnace!. Good review too. About the 10KG crucible though: those are based on the weight of Brass or copper I think so big difference with Aluminium. I think the graph in the manual shows this. Thanks for the shout out Ian, although I think my audience is a bit to small for sponsorship... for now at least. But I am definitely open for it 😅👍 Can't wait to see more of your melting and casting projects using this furnace.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Just had to shout you out Ralp. At least you didn’t mention the Salt

[@ralphmourik]

@@Man-in-da-shed Much appreciated Ian. 👍👊

[@stevesrt8]

They sent me a 3 burner forge a while ago. I only had maybe 600 sub at the time. They contacted me again but I never got back to them. Would love to test an electric furnace lol

[@stevewoldanski4780]

You can coat the Cao wool with a product called Satonite. Works great. You mix it up using the instructions and paint it on.

[@bootsowen]

Hi Ian, I enjoyed the outtakes towards the end! the weight of the crucible is based on a particular metal, I forget which but maybe copper, someone else said the same, so that table from the manual shows in your 10kg crucible what mass of the other metals will fit, so you can weigh it beforehand. As for cleaning it, you have a different crucible for each metal. The fairly eat through gas , so unless you have something nice to make or the gas is free ;-) ingots are a waste of time and gas, especially if the anvil yard won't take them.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I’ve never bought gas yet, seems the gas bottles I collect to make wood burners from always seem to be part full, I’m sure Robert will take my ingots

[@BensWorkshop]

Aluminium is around a third as dense as copper, so the 3.1 refers to a 3.1KG capacity for aluminium. Gold is a bit over twice as heavy so comes in at 22KG. That is a lot of gold! Cheers for the review.

[@stevesrt8]

the chart shows the crucible will hold 10ckg of copper or 3.1 kg of aluminum since it is so much lighter by volume.

[@stevesrt8]

looks like they are off a bit on their volumes though. good show Ian. Better start drinking bud. cheers.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

@@stevesrt8 I’ll start drinking. But not BUD 😂. I’ll stick to Orangeboom (export) %8.4. 🙄

[@BrutusMetalArt]

Nice video Ian ! Fun to watch, take care.

[@garywalker3818]

great blog a gen Ian keep them come Gary from Crewe 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Nas_Atlas]

The fires of Gondor have been lit! We ride to Mordor at dawn!!!

[@scrapwomblecreatives6944]

hi mate you need a new one for each metal very enjoyable show thankyou ian's custom alloy gadgets will be next stay safe pal

[@richardbarbaraburns9868]

I started doing this with copper and brass but the scrap yard didn't want to take it because they couldn't guarantee what was inside it !

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I’m aware of that and did discuss with the scrapyard

[@scrapwomblecreatives6944]

IN TODAYS DARKTIMES YOU HAVE LOTS YOU CAN MAKE WITH A TOOL LIKE THAT THE SMALLER ITEMS OF CASTING LIKE HERE'S A FEW STEAM PUNK STUFF GOTHIC STUFF MAKE LITTLE SIDE LINE FOR TIME WHEN PRICES ARE LOW, I WOULD DO IT MY SELF BUT ALAS CANNOT GET ON THE OLD PEGS MUCH AT ALL AND AM NOT WORKING WITH THAT IN A WHEELCHAIR BUT TO ME SEEMS A NICE BIT OF LIGHTER KIT LOL WE ALL HAVE MADE THE THE TON BURNING BIN WITH MORE GAS THAN YOU CAN POWER THE HOUSE FOR A MONTH WITH OR USED OLD COAL FURNACES SORRY FOR TYPING IN CAPS AM AWAITING FOR THEM TO GET SPECAIL GLASSES FOR GLUCOMA NOT EVEN BEEN TO THE FLAT YET LOL LIFES LOADS SLOWER WHEN OTHERS ARE WORKING ON APPOINTMENT TO COME TO YOU

[@nightscrapperuk13]

I don't know if you seen i also purchased a vevor furnace from vevor 6kg one ,yeah I like your homemade moulds, that pour was amazing mate 👌, first time aswell, your always surprising me in and out of your shed

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I surprise myself at times. Tis a shame I didn’t know about tempering the crucible,

[@JohnnySwedishScrapper]

its an good start Ian you gett better on that in time ;) great video ;)

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Thanks, I know it must have been painful to watch 😉

[@JohnnySwedishScrapper]

@@Man-in-da-shed lol no its whas fun ;)

[@johnallen8680]

Enjoyed the review Ian. . To say you had your hands full with a new product, a new process and the production of a video on your hands you did very well. Just one thing on safety. I appreciate you had your hands full and you cant think of everything, but to you and any other newbie reading this always try to keep your working floorspace clear of clutter and for your first time do a dry run pour with no molten metal in the crucible . Work out the best places for tools, molds etc for a smooth safe sequence of use. I was watching through my fingers as you shuffled through scattered tools and almost tripped on the gas hose ! 😮😅 The most scary incident is when your foot slid on a rolling dross rod ! 😮😂 You recognise that cans are junk really. The radiator was better . It depends what you want to do with your ingots. If you are looking to make castings you will get the best results from an aluminium alloy that is made for casting. So breaking up old castings such as scrap alloy wheels would be ideal.. Extruded/plate and your radiator are made from wrought aluminium . Better than cans, but still not ideal for making sand castings. You are more likely to get defects.. The piece of round bar you made was impressive and could be very useful in the lathe. Don't know if you have faced and turned it yet, but if its half decent you have a good product. As you may know round bar is very expensive to buy. Yours will be great for lathe projects. . Doesn't matter if it has a few flaws in it for diy projects. We aren't building aeroplanes and bridges are we ? After finishing my comments I'll check to see if you have made a video of you turning it.. I've made round bar but nowhere near the diameter of yours. Again really enjoyed the video ! Regards John.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Appreciate the comment John, sometimes ignorance is bliss, I’ve learned a lot from the comments. I’ve not yet faced off the blanks, it’s on a toodo list. But in a way doing something not quite right can motivate folk to comment and as such help educate. True the work area was cluttered.

[@jasonfarren-xp6vv]

Good video lan enjoy your new toy

[@kenord3437]

I have seen other videos of furnaces, where they coated the insulation, and it worked and lasted well.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Yes it’s something I need to look into

[@paulf2529]

Looks spot on , the 10kg refers to dense metals eg lead

[@scrapwomblecreatives6944]

it works melted stuff don't clean alloys ,none do your slag isa lot but as you say salt on pewter you use a form of washing powerder to clean it but my mind as it is as forgot and i melt shed loads of it lol i will add it you want to cast your own custom parts at higher volume this looks a nice machine .I will say this nothing wrong in pointing out little small minor problems mate if I was still in the house with the three gardens and three allotment I would have got one lol beer cans to custom signs art its' a" BUSINESS IN A BOX" NICE REVIEW IAN NICE VEVOR

[@Man-in-da-shed]

allways nice to see you comment

[@AliMackMechanical]

Well Ello Ian of youtube😂😂. I like SteveSrt8 he does some really good castings also Street Copper. Some real nice guys there that do castings even Rafal Scrapper has done some I believe. Looks good furnace. Nice ingots good review 😊👍😬hot stuff Ian.

[@stevesrt8]

cheers Ali

[@scrapitall200]

Great review and your 2.5kg ingot is really cool looking.

[@UKscrapper]

Great job Ian I've got the devil forge not got round to using it yet great job you done ian

[@prime553]

Good job Ian. Nice review

[@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204]

good vid of new tool to melt metel thanks lee

[@alandykes2519]

Great review ian look forward to more 👍👍👍👍

[@AdelinoGambiarras]

Nice one Ian I got lots of cans , that melting Furness would be handy to melt all of them. Question is how much is the value of the ingots and hoo buy them you can answer that question in a video Ian.

[@davewolfy.5932]

Great job, loved the review

[@kenord3437]

I think I would rather the gas/aid pipe enter the furnace from the side, so as you are not standing over the gas hose during operation. Thanks for the video mate.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Good safety pointer. Thanks

[@AlexanderSmith21]

Bradley heights is some cast pourer within the coin community bh customs then you have RN Metals and you also have Ace bullion so if you need some advice ask them

[@fabianpachoek7731]

Hello ian good job I’m loving your videos on KZbin

[@SollersScrappingandDiving]

Well, I really enjoyed that Ian, I thought the Toblerone ingot was yummy!!! Definitely coat the wool, it will be more efficient 😉

[@bobdentonjr.4952]

When it hot to scrape it clean.

[@ratdetecting4780]

great vid Ian. Did Vevor supply heat cement for kaowool liner for furnace? Also you need to heat up new crucible & let it cool, before you melt metal. you can sieve the dross & remelt it to get more aluminium. clean the crucible soon after pouring, as it is a lot easier. If you have as crucible for each metal that you're melting makes it easier. Aluminium is an easy starter metal to melt. Copper takes lot longer & higher temperature. Brass is a bit harder, as you need respirator, cause the zinc fumes that come with melting brass are not user friendly

[@Man-in-da-shed]

No. I did mention in the Vid. That Vevor need to supply a Ridgizer for the kaowool

[@ratdetecting4780]

@@Man-in-da-shed 🤦wrote it before saw the end.....my bad! 🤔😁

[@CeciliaKirkup]

Very good and interesting video Ian enjoyed it. But the price of gas is the downside. Take Care Cheers. B. K

[@Nas_Atlas]

Alright Ian 'Salt Bae' Matthews that was a very enjoyable and thorough review. However Aluminum is a peasants metal. Make some big beautiful blocks of copper. We will see you on the next one!

[@Man-in-da-shed]

You will indeed

[@rastaralph7154]

Did you not get the clay powder to mix with water and coat the inside with first before firing up? I did with the devil forge. 👍💚💛❤️

[@Man-in-da-shed]

No, it’s something I have pointed out to the sponsor

[@richardstevens8005]

The Numbers you refer to are the maximum weight for that metal at the volume of the crucible. Hence copper 10kg and Ali being about 3 times lighter gives you 3.1kg.

[@paulf2529]

Exactly, lead would easily be 10kg possibly more.

[@AdeSwash]

Hi Ian, good results from beer cans, a good excuse to buy more beer! What 'type' of salt do you add to get rid of the bubbles?

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Hi Ade, I picked a low Iodine salt, only what I saw on a channel proof will be when I start turning it

[@kdscrapping4452]

I have some of there items!! Think you have seen in me video!!

[@MrFactotum]

nice one eun👍👍👍👍 cheers kev

[@freeee1234]

That was a hotttt video Ian 😅

[@jhinote1]

Good video Sir. I’m no expert but I think the standard for crucibles is you don’t clean em. You have one for each material you want to melt. They are quite fragile once they see a few heat cycles.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Good advice. Thankyou

[@ScrappingIrish]

someone say melting gold and i pissed myself when i seen you using a aluminum rod too stir it

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I’ve been waiting for someone to spot that 😂

[@aureliaa723]

Hiya Ian Before you melt the metal weigh it and then after you pour your ingots weigh them to get an accurate loss percentage Since aluminum is so light you probably didn't have anywhere near 10kg to start with

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I’ve sinced learned the chart shows what weight of metals you will get from the crucible

[@terryatkinson899]

Great fun 😊 nice to be able to make stuff from casting. Let's have a go at copper 🤗

[@Man-in-da-shed]

First dry day. I will

[@AlexanderSmith21]

You want to heat your casts up as well mr ian

[@MyFriendsKitchen]

Curious to see what happens to copper coated aluminium wire or is that something the scrap yard takes easily? And thank Mrs Matthews for being OK with all your faffing that keeps us entertained 😂

[@lancpudn]

R'reet Eun, Nice review Sir, I could play wi one o them for hours, I was only watching a YT vid t'other week on how they made those graphite tubs in Pakistan. I foresee sand moulds being made in the future.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Maybe. But not for the foreseeable

[@milchman3611]

You'll be getting a "casting couch" next - might make an interesting review topic though!

[@JimmyCandFriends]

You got about what the Chart said you were going to get. 10k Copper but 3k Aluminum .

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I now look at that chart in a different light, thanks for watching Jimmy

[@Derbyhobbiescrapper]

Looks great mate what's the prices

[@Man-in-da-shed]

approx £150. But there is a small discount as well

[@CraigMorgan-u5p]

Did you weigh the aluminium before you melted it in the furnace? Did you lose much? is it worth it.❤

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Oh. That is a big question, ok first my gas is free ( for now) mostly I converted an aluminium radiator into an ingot, very little dross, ally rads are almost a poor a payer as Ally pop/ beer cans. So. I used gas i got for free and don’t want, ( I use the empty bottle to make wood burners ) And turned almost worthless ally into cast ally. Basically triple the price. So for me it’s a win win. Use the gas, use the bottle, turn low paying ally into higher paying ally. And finally get a video to share which also creates a few pence. I appreciate the comment. Ian

[@ScrappingScotland]

The only problem I have with casting aluminium is that you spend more on gas than the ingot is worth. Yards rarely take ingots as well so not for me but great review

[@Man-in-da-shed]

This is true, but I guess I’m lucky as the scrap bottles I pick up. All seem to have Gas in them. But instead of just turning cans into ingots. I will Cast art

[@ScrappingScotland]

Yeah i like that idea. That's what I'd do

[@mr1pearl]

I'd like to try that Ian hmmmm 🤔

[@Gazr965]

Most scrap merchants will not buy ingots as they do not know what alloy it consists of, eg aluminium has hundreds of recipes, basically they don't know if some bod has mixed cast ally with mailable sheet ally or used cans etc

[@Masonfox8272]

Are you putting this gas furnace in your house or where you putting it also you going to use it to heat the shed

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Not sure the missus will let me burn the house down.

[@YKB6.9]

IAN ON THE JOB...

[@brettmasters5379]

great video- just becareful of all the trip hazards you have around that furnace when pouring

[@seneca-jl7lt]

It would be handy if Vevor supplied rigidizer.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Yes it would

[@jr-a-cat]

Glad to see you heat the mold or you be the "Tin Man in the shed " steam explosion is no fun

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Lol only copied what I’ve seen

[@americasfavoritehoarder]

Oh crap, this will be a 2 beer video. The Vevor comes with tongs and molds!

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Tiny mould though

[@enigmatube5437]

The crucible will hold 10 Kg of copper. People confuse volume with weight.

[@SRRS478]

nice Ian that's really cool borax heated and milted in the crucible will keep it from sticking

[@scrappingtogether908]

Thear goes the wife's kitchen spoons lol

[@Man-in-da-shed]

😂

[@conor0044]

Hi Ian. I've the same furnace, here in Ireland. How did you stop the 'sputtering'? I have this issue with mine (even with a brand new barrel of propane) and it's very annoying. Happens after about 20 minutes of running the furnace. Experimenting with PSI leads nowhere. Thought I needed a new furnace as it's taken a battering, but re- thinking this after seeing your new one do the same thing. Surely there's something I'm missing? No clogs etc in any of the inlets. All the best, Conor

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Mine does the same thing, and I’ve not found out what causes it, when it starts I either just shut it of with the valve wait 1/2 second and turn back on, or close the air off , I’ve tried what you have but also altering the position of the tube into the furnace ie the stick out.

[@conor0044]

@@Man-in-da-shed Yeah strange one, try running it with the gas pressure on about 7 and the choke half closed. Had good results with this config over the weekend, touch wood! Also took it to a sheltered area and it didn't trouble me as much. Yeah Ive also played around with the position of the burner, at moment its half way in but who knows if that has anything to do with it

[@loafersheffield]

How much does the gas cost? Actually, I know. The cost of Calor has gone up way less than the natural gas used in the house boiler and the oven. She, has got me boiling up veggies on my man cave, fry up stove now. I don't like gas tape. Beware that you must wind it on the same direction as the threads wind on, or it wont work. Reverse, like you said for Calor. A wee bit of "furry"😆 liquid and leak test. Rocol gel is better than tape, imo. Are even smaller versions available for smaller amounts of "other" metals? I'll email ya. If the cost of gas used means more storage space and makes it compact for transportation, then it may be worthwhile? Cost benefit.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I cut a whole section out. Where I explain the I get gas bottles to make my woodburners and a lot of them have gas still in.Them. So my gas is free.

[@loafersheffield]

Jammy booger.👍@@Man-in-da-shed

[@colincrane4835]

M8 lol safety safety get that gas cable away from your feet. You were stepping over it so it’s a trip hazard. The furnace was not that stable either. Move the gas and cable out of the way from your feet. Get another crucible and use one for copper and one for alley you will be able to melt 10kg of copper in the crucible but lifting it out with toes tongs not advisable. Keep the lid closed more and drop the tins through the hole in the top. Use a long steel rod for mixing the melted metal. Always uses gloves as your going to burn your hands dropping thoes tins in. Also melting cans is fun but yes loads of dross.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Colin I appreciate those comments, yes that episode went safely, but from yours and other comments I can reduce the risk. The first thing I noted was there was no way I could pour that crucible with just tongs, and I tell you I was not really happy at lifting it out the furnace with those tongs, I was under a time deadline so I risked more than I would have liked. Better handling tools are on the front burner

[@CruiserMac]

I would wear a respirator without that insulation being treated with something, apparently those fibers are deadly for the lungs.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Good advice Mac

[@phillipcooze7668]

750 g i reckon

[@phillipcooze7668]

weigh out lol

[@MotorhomeDIY]

Hi Ian Glad found your channel being uk I’m Wanting to melt 9k gold but no videos on it I have a crucible and flux and firebricks My only torches at the moment is a mapp torch Or a roofers torch a detail torch with big gas bottle Any tips for me please or will I need this furnace or a oxy turbo kit 😢 I understand mapp can melt pure gold and silver But 9k has copper and nickel so needs different gas torch Thanks

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Well Thankyou for the comment, I really am a novice at this melting stuff, so alas I’m not in a position to advise you. If I do find something on YT that will help you I’ll post it here.

[@MotorhomeDIY]

@@Man-in-da-shed thank you and yes everything is from the states and 24k gold which I’ve tried to melt with a mapp torch and works fine But 9k I can’t find anything on it and don’t want to ruin the gold I’m doing research but not much on it To collect scrap gold and melt it using the sand cast method is amazing but only worked with silver My next project will be melting 9k gold and casting that to new rings You should try it buddy it would make brilliant content to and very cheap too

[@Man-in-da-shed]

copper is my next step if it ever stops raining here@@MotorhomeDIY

[@MotorhomeDIY]

@@Man-in-da-shed interesting to see that mate but with your furnace you will be fine 💯 I think I’ll have to bite the bullet and get the propane 3kg one I’ve a feeling 9k gold won’t melt with a mapp torch even in a crucible with flux sat on a fire brick

[@flamingrecykling8193]

Hejka Siemka 🦩 pozdrawiam

[@larryschweitzer4904]

I have a home made melt furnace and don't think melting cans is worth the gas it takes. The best scrap in my opinion is automotive castings. Should be able to get them from your local repair shop. You really need to coat the insulation to stop the fibers from getting into your lungs. There seem to be several versions of the 10kg melt furnace. I suspect that if you melted copper a full to the top crucible full would be closer to 10kg. I've found casting to be both rewarding and frustrating. Look up ways to limit hydrogen defects. Get some personal protective gear. Cover the concrete so there isn't an a chunk blown out if you have a small spill.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

All valid points. I have pointed out elsewhere I have a source of part filled bottles, I really want the bottles to make wood burners from, I used to just burn the gas off, now I burn the gas off to melt almost worthless cans into something a little more valuable, so a win win for me, going forward casting, etc etc, yes I do need to up my game and read/ watch learn , you may not have seen it but there is a follow up video where I burn through a crucible .

[@bobdentonjr.4952]

You can remelt the dross

[@zbigniewczaykowski514]

You don't clean the crucibles , it's not worth it and you'll never get it properly clean for a pure pour of another metal, also cleaning can damage the crucible. You simply have several crucibles for different metals and never mix them.

[@3dguy839]

Kind of scary pouring metal around all the damp ground and concrete

[@Man-in-da-shed]

It has its risks. Which I try to minimise with the large steel sheet

[@anthonyquinn3671]

It would be nice to know what "The Old Anvil" yard think of your Ingots, Will they Tek em, lol,

[@Man-in-da-shed]

If I throw 2 or 3 in with my cast Ally, well……. THey pick em up look at me and go tut tut matthews. But let em pass, a fair warning,,, don’t take too many liberties.

[@anthonyquinn3671]

@@Man-in-da-shed I thought they might let it slide because you have a good relationship with them. Unfortunately I wouldn't get a free pass lol.

[@iffy9776]

Beer can or (Bacon)😂

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Both

[@rexhavoc2982]

Stepping over all your crap around the forge is a bit dangerous.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

Duly noted

[@kevinmorris8744]

Hahahahaha. What a muppet, hes never had one does everything wrong then reviews it. Lmao gave me a laugh borax on the crucible first buddy coat it till its all shiney. No sticky sticky. 😅

[@AlejandroFernandezDaCosta]

Please, don't hurt yourself when yor are manipulating tools !! and not beverages.

[@Man-in-da-shed]

I’ll try not too

[@MFrederick-ru8jo]

go back to sleep