Stormgate's 3rd Faction Is HERE! ► Everything You Need To Know

[@teachmehowtodoge1737]

My life for Auir! 👀

[@Darlf_Sevil]

No no they look more like purifiers

[@porrapatcpe20]

Yes 😂

[@fixpontt]

so after zerg and terran, protoss has arrived.... the unimaginativeness of this studio is palpable

[@Roberto_B.M.]

I am very happy that everyone gets to see the third faction The design looks soo cool and i cant wait for the release

[@Voidroamer]

lol they looked like blue blobs in the NDA playtest. so be glad you didnt see them

[@Roberto_B.M.]

@@Voidroamer i did see that because i also was in the playtest

[@skiks3562]

As someone who was in the frigate beta, the Celestials were nuts to wrap my head around. Their economy units, focus on flexible base building, and using power instead of supply felt radically different from the other two factions. I never managed to get comfortable with them, but but some people seemed to love their style.

[@rat2244]

This game makes me want to appreciate starcraft 2 a lot more.

[@aviFlashbacks]

I see a lot of people disliking the designs of thethid faction, but I personally like it. It feels the most like how I’d imagine old-testament angels to look, and the cabal sort of fitting the “biblically accurate design.” As for the toy part, I think that comes from the fact that they are shiny, don’t have too many “hard edges,” and that most units in the game don’t have their walking animation synced to their speed yet, from what I can tell. I think maybe making them a bit less shiny while making some of the edges more pronounced would fix most of the “looks like a toy.”

[@froginbell9851]

My immediate thoughts are: I like their gameplay! They look like toys. They are just the Protoss, more so a new commander for StarCraft 2 coop. The art direction is still forgettable. At this point the only thing I can congratulate Frost giant on is that gameplay wise they actually have a shot at retaining the casuals needed so the game doesn't die. On that front they have done a fantastic job. But we'll see if in the long term the standard hardcore fans are happy with that or not. On most other fronts Stormgate has just been bland as reinforced by the trailer, I am only here because of the blizzard pedigree and hoped they would use that to do something wildly different. But this is just starcraft 2 lite so far. Even the protag from the trailer is just a discount raynor!! I guess we can't really say for sure though until launch. I really do want this to succeed.

[@gillessprecher4674]

You've sum up quite everthing here ! 👍

[@kyungsunjorr]

Dude. This is exactly how it is. Stormgate just doesn't have the 'umph' that makes Starcraft amazing. It's disappointing.

[@lordhelix1458]

The gameplay has been awesome so far

[@spectrumunit]

I feel like the blandness just doesnt come only from the units or buildings. For me personally its more the maps and the ground texture. Everything seems to be so washed out. Also it does not help, that everything is glowing light blue and shooting laser-y stuff from everywhere. If everything is glowing and highlighted, then nothing is highlighted at all. Then everything just feels the same.

[@Jhoelgrox]

agreed 100% :(

[@Olympus-Thas]

Gotta say the introduction of a third very different faction and the fact that the game is free will definitely have me playing after all.

[@Kaiasky]

I think it's so beautiful they made Cannon Rush, The Race. i know wo I'm maining!

[@kathorsees]

Damn, Protoss are looking imba in the new patch 👀

[@davidbodor1762]

Tbh Vanguard play more like protoss than Celestials.

[@xardiodrack1798]

3rd faction is not magical cat girl my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[@mc.builder8267]

Some one was expecting magical cat girls for stormgate. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@LichKingg23]

So the madteam actually made Diablo Craft. I mean, I knew it would be "Celestials" because of "Infernals" and sill I'm surprised. A-fucking-mazing.

[@АлександрНикитюк-ц6п]

I was more hopeful for the nature faction. It would also be interesting to see a "shadow faction", a second evil side that would represent not the forces of fire, but the force of cosmic darkness. But the angels... A little corny. However, let's see how this faction will be developed, maybe it will be interesting.

[@kathorsees]

It's the de-facto standard: a good/progressive/tech-savvy faction (elves, eldar, protoss...), an evil/regressive/low-tech faction (orks, tyranids, zerg...), and humans in the middle as the vanilla choice (capable of good and evil, but ultimately pick up the torch of goodness from the failing eldar/angels/protoss). I agree it has become quite predictable by now. If the "nature" faction is good, it's going to be green, with leaves and furry mammals and sun/moon/stars symbols. If it's evil, it's going to be bugs, fleshy stuff, and a hivemind with no culture or symbols to speak of. Personally, I'd love to see a game where humans are the ultimate big bad, the main antagonist, real evil and real cruel. Or a eu-social, "Scandinavian social democracy" slugs'n'bugs faction with a balance between community and individual rights. Or a nature faction made up of crystalline/mineral creatures (non-carbon-based life). Or a "sentient space cloud" faction that act like space beavers: they grow Dyson spheres around stars that act like dams, but for light. It changes that star system and makes it uninhabitable for other races, but it's the only way they can live (and it's good for the flora and fauna that travel with them).

[@remcoheijnen8427]

As soon they announced the Early Access Packs, i instantly went on steam to buy it. Without hesitation. I really felt like : Shut up and take my Money ! Gosh, i never been this excited in a long time for an RTS game, the last time was with Star Craft 2. When was the last time you Got Excited for a new RTS game ?

[@kathorsees]

Tbh, never! But I'm glad that you are. I never play games on release or pre-order anything - for some reason, my brain just doesn't understand how to get hyped about something in advance. But I'm def going to check Stormgate out, and it's genuinely nice to see people are excited. So many new RTS titles coming out, is this a renaissance for the genre?

[@remcoheijnen8427]

@@kathorsees I sure hope so, i mean its so fun to watch a good RTS being played by professionals. I mean look at Star Craft, its still being played to this day and i talk about Star Craft 1 of all games. I think its rare to see a decent RTS title. But i got high hopes for this one as the team who made Stormgate worked on Warcraft 3 and Star Craft 2. Which i think are still top tier RTS games and never been taken off that crown. But chances are pretty big that Stormgate would do so, considered Blizzard stopped putting money into Star Craft 2 Tournament. Meaning a lot of tournament stopped for the game as well. So i think with the regional tournaments for Stormgate, it could spark a world wide interest for a lot of players something we have rarely seen with Star Craft 2. And yes i think i think it can become a Massive E-Sport title for years to come.

[@kathorsees]

@@remcoheijnen8427 IDK about it becoming a massive e-sports title - it feels like the market for e-sports is already oversaturated. There's already too many games and sports and content to choose from. But it's definitely not impossible. And it's not even that important IMO - as long as the game is good, the players have fun and the devs get to make a living off of it all, it's already gonna be great ^^

[@remcoheijnen8427]

@@kathorsees I fully agree man, i really do. I played the open beta of Stormgate and i enjoyed it, its super fun to play and it made me only more excited knowing what game i would get my hands on, up on purchase.

[@kathorsees]

@@allanshpeley4284 "allan shpeley sucks at sc2 melee". only people can write poetry, so there. not every non-negative interaction on the web is bots, man.

[@elysiumemerald5210]

The Human Vanguard as Terran. The Infernal Host as Zerg. The Celestial Armada as Protoss. what about a mysterious race like the Xel'naga?

[@user-euusorssss]

how about hybrid 4th

[@zekko5]

they took unit design from sc2, faction themes from diablo and. animations from overwatch. no ip get's left behind kek

[@lordhelix1458]

Play the game. The factions are waaay different

[@thiesclausen4868]

​@@zekko5 Map design with trees and creeps from WC3.

[@kathorsees]

To be fair, StarCraft stole it all from W40k (terrans = space marines, zerg = tyranids, protoss = eldar). But W40k stole it all from Dune (a war against robots leads to ban on AI; telepathically gifted God-Emperor = Paul Atreides; mentats = tech priests; general themes like religion in space, failing states, astronavigation through telepathy, space drugs, etc. etc.). And the stuff they and everyone else stole from Tolkien has been stolen so much it doesn't even count as stealing anymore, it's just considered "generic fantasy tropes" (orks = orcs, eldar = elves, Empire without an Emperor = Gondor without a king...). And Tolkien has become so ubiquitous because he stole from Germanic and Celtic folklore... It's how culture works: 90% of "influenced and inspired by", 10% of tweaks and vaguely new stuff. When you're young, you're excited and think it's all so cool and original. I know I did the first time I pkayed StarCraft and WarCraft 2. As you grow older, you notice that you've seen it all somewhere already, or read up on your fav authors and find out what their inspirations were. Hopefully, to also get inspired, and make something for the next generation, who will also find it new and exciting.

[@xaldlech4805]

Can we all agree that having straight up artificial AI that originated from humans as the third faction would have been super dope. Like the men of iron/gold, automatons or smth like that. The typical triad of angels, demons, humans is a bit disappointing.

[@mauriciolizarbe4835]

Alien-like angels

[@reylightrey1863]

Damn....its protoss?

[@Tazdingo01]

Yep

[@Dahxelb]

Not particularly surprised considering the 2nd faction is basically "The Forces of Hell made a baby with Zerg", that the 3rd faction is basically "The Forces of the high heavens made a baby with Protoss". It is so very clear that this game is being designed by ex-blizzard developers. The blend between the 'Diablo' and 'StarCraft' oozes out of this game. It's not a criticism, but I do feel that it isn't particularly inventive. And that is knowing that they are fully able to work outside of this three-way mold, considering the available factions in WC3.

[@DabPanda710]

How do I stop Mass Hedgehog???

[@pablosrf3881]

I like it.

[@delegado-I]

Third faction design should be better, but the game still rocks.

[@nikolakarapejevski]

so basically protos :)

[@Tazdingo01]

Yes

[@vladislavsimovic899]

Honesty this game looks like indie clone of stacraft2

[@Dredgno]

Today I find out ghost has a stormgate channel

[@OsiRixxx]

so basically protoss?

[@Erictraiven]

Cabal look finished here but in other video there is a placeholder why?

[@lordhelix1458]

Because the game is still in development?

[@Stormgate_Central]

In the Frigate test the Cabal’s just had a placeholder model but it should be finished in EA.

[@barnabaszu]

Celestials look badass, very excited. Infernals have worst looking units in the game imo

[@DavidGlendaleArdenaso]

Draenei x Protoss that are somehow not Draenei enough and not Protoss enough

[@laureloneiros1500]

Betting all my life saving that they'll give the terran EMP

[@whistlingshadow370]

cannon rush for centuries

[@Forsakenartsprod]

Vanguard also look like toys

[@megavergatario1]

its a sc2 made in china

[@VoI7on]

lol

[@bobsagget4061]

Worse california

[@Ravi9A]

They seems the most zerg like with their psuedo creep type gameplay

[@aviFlashbacks]

I’d say more undead or brood war zerg, with infernals getting shroud from structures which gives buffs like creep in sc2, and also macroing more like the zerg than even the celestials

[@Ravi9A]

@@aviFlashbacks mm yeah, brood war

[@MikoGot]

I like how Vanguard and Infernals look. This new faction is so weird looking. Like Vanguard but cheap plastic toys? I would just prefered classic angels over this.

[@ataxtar]

it's not done yet and it's already begging to be edited

[@TremereTT]

Why power bank and not power plant?

[@blackomega34]

A power bank stores energy, a plant produces it.

[@TremereTT]

@@blackomega34 and in the game they produce energy , right ?

[@blackomega34]

​@@TremereTT The power is produced in your base (I assume), but flows through the grid to the power banks. And then you make power banks which the power flows to, and then units can go there to recharge. For example their basic cannon infantry do 10 damage but if they go to recharge at the power bank their shots do 20 damage instead for a few shots.

[@antonioangeloviii4748]

we need an underwater map, volcano map, aeriel islea map ,snow map. grassy plains is boring. other then that, i am excited. a lot like sc.

[@MajonnasPojken]

Will there be an 4th faction ?

[@zekko5]

there shouldn't be if im not mistaken. at least not for now

[@aviFlashbacks]

There won’t be for some time, and if they do add a fourth race it won’t be in the game at release, but they have expressed interest in adding a fourth race

[@lordhelix1458]

Not for a long time

[@Stormgate_Central]

Not for quite some time I would expect, but Tim Morten did hint at this in a Q&A some time ago so you never know!

[@ssantahouse]

게임사에 음향감독이 없다.

[@degenxayah]

Sooo.. it protoss but with more cheese... Yay

[@francopereyra6659]

Im liking the inclusion of what it seems "Uber units" in the trailer, this game must not replicate the meta slavery that SC2 is, and i hope things like stuttersteping and things like "one unit spamming", deathballs where units dont even hold a formation, stay in SC2. Those things are insufferable, and just slowly kills the game to the point where is only circlejerk of a few veterans (nobody likes an army of just void rays or marines)

[@kingfishcl8083]

SC2 is 14 yrs old and still looks better. Embarrassing!

[@BBJones93]

Yeah, it's something else.

[@Tazdingo01]

Agreed. SC2 looks way better.

[@YokomaruWP]

No shield Bar? Bad.

[@playgame5331]

So Protoss... Lol!

[@Lazycat410]

I'm kinda disappointed in stormgate, it's just a sc2 copy and paste the 3 races are just Terran, zerg and protos in gameplay and lore. Heck the units we saw were just zelot, stalker, mirage, high templar, and dark archon remakes with only one unit being new. They even have power fields and proxy basing

[@GamerLife4ever]

That’s prob because a lot of the team leads are ones who created StarCraft

[@phaus5815]

As a SC2 enjoyer, this is exactly what I wanted, but I don't really like the art 😢

[@GamerLife4ever]

@@phaus5815yah I played it and I’m not worried about the art as much as it feels like it’s just not there yet on feeling fleshed out. My biggest gripe was the movement felt Alittle off but it’s def going on a direction that’s good

[@lordhelix1458]

the 3 factions in stormgate play waaaaay different than sc2

[@BBJones93]

@@GamerLife4ever No, its lazy.

[@vaguehonk]

I had pretty high hopes for this game but this third faction killed all the hype for me, I just hate both their looks and their gameplay design that tries too hard to be different but ends up being annoying.

[@lordhelix1458]

Would you show up to a woodworking club and start talking about why you don't like carpentry? Same energy

[@vaguehonk]

@@lordhelix1458Saying that this particular wardrobe is wonky and overdesigned doesn't mean I hate carpentry

[@JohnDoe-fh5dy]

why did you guys kick avilo out of your tournament... ? hate him or love him he was a legitimate player and you made your own tournament illegitimated

[@karlbergman5678]

They're really struggling to be original. It's quite sad to see because it won't be able to compete with starcraft 2 when it's just the same but cartoony

[@gustavostyle2914]

They are basically protoss

[@user-ur4nl6dq2x]

For those saying "they look like cheap toys" just remember the game, and especially this faction, are still in beta with a huge amount of art & detail to be added yet

[@retrocomputing]

Don't count on it, it will look mostly the same. It's not some early days already

[@froginbell9851]

They are close to release and ongoing live service development. They have passed the point where they can make major art direction changes. It doesn't help they have made every indication that they think the visuals are fine with no intention to change.

[@smnvalex]

The issue is the art direction looks like shit. This game looks soulless compared to stuff like brood war and Warcraft 3. Warcraft 3 is graphically worse in every way but still manages to look gorgeous and soulful due to great art direction. Unless they are adding some insane shaders that turn the graphics upside down it's just gonna look like it does now with a few more sharp details

[@BBJones93]

they are begging for cash, they might reskin them, but they wont remodel them.

[@user-ur4nl6dq2x]

​@@retrocomputingstill over a year until launch, long ways yet

[@cirusMEDIA]

Those tanks are wayyyyy to weak. Requiring 3 shots to kill an invantary unit? Seriously?

[@DxKShifty]

such a let down