Gay Talese | Frank Sinatra Has a Cold

[@danielwardin3609]

In my house they're was a copy of _Smiling Through The Apocalypse_, an Esquire anthology. Throughout my preteens to my late teens I must have read "Frank Sinatra Has A Cold" at least half a dozen times without knowing it was considered a classic in New Journalism. I just loved the essay, could come back to it as with an old friend. Knew who Sinatra was, didn't know who Talese was (pre-_Thy Neighbors Wife_ ca. 1982ish) and didn't know who Harlan Ellison was. Simply, it was a joy to read. (Similarly, in the same book, the Buckley-Vidal fisticuffs.) Good interview. Nice to know The Strand is conducting these interviews; I say that because I remember The Strand having the snottiest clerks in all of retail!)

[@mandolindleyroadshow706]

One of the things that stands out to me in this interview is, with all of that sniffling, Gay Talese had a cold.

[@mikepowers9265]

Harlan was not one bit intimidated by Frank.

[@frankpontone2139]

Yes he was.

[@fedecasares]

@@frankpontone2139 Besides being a great singer, Sinatra without his "friends" behind him would not have been able to intimidate anyone. Furthermore, Ellison, despite his short stature, would have been able to smash his face if Sinatra hadn't had certain "friends."

[@frankpontone2139]

@@fedecasares Ellison didn't know how to fight (which is okay because most people don't) and neither did Sinatra so, maybe so.

[@fedecasares]

@@frankpontone2139 Hmm ... I don't know exactly how much he knew, but he was involved in fights from a very young age. On the other hand, I have read that he took martial arts classes. Anyway ... what no one could deny is that Harlan had a mouth and with it he could kill anyone (Asimov would approve my comment XD)

[@frankpontone2139]

@Tdecenso79 Yes, he surely was.

[@JamesBlevins0]

"Someday you have to meet Harlan [Ellison]. He is a buzz-saw that walks like a man. He was a standup comedian in Las Vegas for two weeks. He is an insult machine. He is evil and vicious and nasty. He is like us. [...] Go thou and do evil! Immer [always, in German], Zlaz" Roger Zelazny to Carl Yoke

[@hughgreentree]

The best way to be with a celebrity is when THEY want to talk with you. I had that when I met Morgan Freeman. I was going to my usual coffee shop one morning in 1996 and I saw my therapist, Eunice. I went to talk with her and Morgan Freeman was with her. Turns out, they were friends. I could not think of anything to say or ask, so I just said "hello," stood around for a minute listening to them talk, then went to the counter to get my coffee and donut. Freeman got in line behind me. I then sat down at a small table. He sat down next to me and Eunice sat down across from him. For the next 20 minutes he told me some stories about what he was doing. He was really excited about just having been cast as the US President in a movie (DEEP IMPACT). I did not have any questions for him; I just listened. Then I made my exit after bidding farewell. At my next therapy session, Eunice was surprised at how calm and natural I had been when interacting with Freeman. Well, it was easy; I did not do anything; Freeman did all the interacting.

[@robjones2408]

Gay's article is a magnificent overview of Frank, and the enormous power he wielded in Hollywood in the mid - 60s. The scene with Hal Ellison captures FS at his most intimidating. By then he was The Chairman, and could make or break careers. A fascinating snapshot of a long -vanished period in Hollywood history.

[@andrewwilliams9599]

Harlan Ellison.

[@perseus9428]

Sinatra was a giant C ...t.

[@charleswinokoor6023]

I strongly suggest checking out the full Harlan Ellison version on KZbin. There was an act of violence at the pool table that Gay omitted.

[@stepno]

Great interview for journalism students and fans of "how writers work" stories, who won't have to be able to name three Sinatra songs to enjoy this.... maybe not much fun for Sinatra fans unless they are already gay talese fans

[@andrewwilliams9599]

Harlan's take on the incident: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5uYeoloaMxgnKc

[@sclogse1]

That brought me here. I started watching Harlan's home videos till the end. I think I'll look up that Esquire. The Roy Cohn issue is something....

[@paulwright9372]

Is there a version of this without the heavily compressed and limited audio? Or an audio-only version?

[@dawnluzzi3433]

Every question about Sinatra is used as a springboard to talk about someone else, a very frustrating trip down memory lane about Sinatra without any real take on Frank. I don't think Gay liked him, I did and met him twice, found very nice simply put and decent man.

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

TERRIBLE title for a book, NOT nice to do that and then write about THE man -- bad lead! A fellow Italian should know better, but then, he was "media" so that explains it. I had a few meetings with Sinatra -- knew him a bit. Frank, was a very nice man, not the ogre some people portray him to be at all -- he was ANOMYNOUSLY generous almost to a fault, giving away so much to so many in need that no one knew about and that's the way he wanted it. But, if he caught you in a lie, forget your friendship with him, or even acquaintance. He detested lies!

[@kelman727]

Dawn Luzzi His article made it clear he knew quite a bit about him, and not all of it smelled of roses. I suspect this is what's really bothering you.

[@michaelceraso1977]

yes sinatra had a way about him with Friends and then with people who he didnt get along wth or were enemies, AT least he held his Liquor and never abused women, Unlike famous celebs like George c Scott who was a terrible drunk and beat Ava Gardner who revealed that in her Autobiography

[@-Trauma.]

@@MJLeger-yj1ww Pat Cooper didn't want to work with Frank. Pat Cooper is cooler than Frank too.

[@andrewwilliams9599]

Harlan Ellison owned Sinatra. He may have been nice to you when you met him twice, but I'll bet real money that if you'd met him a few more times--been a fly on the wall--you would not have liked what you would have seen.

[@toddmason8013]

So, did the interview continue after the break? (And, fwiw, MARKETPLACE is not an NPR program, but is syndicated to public stations by APM, American Public Media.)

[@glendamcgee1779]

Um - greatest piece of non-fiction journalism? Truman Capote invented the genre: IN COLD BLOOD.

[@tugger]

can we get closed captions please ? or a transcript

[@Rubin4749]

Is he hiding a frog in his throat??

[@HansDelbruck53]

The hosts inhalations are annoyingly loud.

[@sclogse1]

He ain't the host. He's the guest.

[@themeat5053]

So, this guy is 83 and still an ego maniac? Found this to be a horrible interview to listen to; but, I had hoped it would be.

[@antoniosantorini9355]

You could have wrapped that story up in first 4 minutes

[@MegaMadcow11]

Im curious what santras political views would be i todays politics and what he would think of the lgbt community 🤔🤔🤔

[@danielbisson8032]

he was friendly with liberace and he was a democrat

[@HansDelbruck53]

Santra?

[@jadezee6316]

this guy David Brancaccio...who wont shut up is offensive in his style and should not be using a mic that amplifies the voice the way i does...we dont need to hear breathing and effects used to sell cheap products...

[@sclogse1]

You idiot. That's not David.

[@antoniosantorini9355]

He talks in a long sentence that never gets to the point

[@antoniosantorini9355]

This video lurers you in with Sinatra's name but this is little to do with Sinatra...Gay is a great writer but boring to listen to