Strange Stripes on Phobos May Actually Be Cracks Formed by Mars

[@whatdamath]

Oopsie correction: (As mentioned by wonderful people below) It wouldn't be the second ringed planet, it would be the fifth Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune all have rings as explored in many videos before

[@shebahammy]

I’m a huge fan and watched since 4 years ago when the what da math intro was still there

[@fh5926]

Yeah. I think even a couple of KBOs have rings too.

[@WaterShowsProd]

I did a doubletake when you said that. Then I thought you perhaps meant Mars would have the second largest comparative ring size, after Saturn. Either way, picturing Mars with rings is a wonderful image.

[@tommy-er6hh]

@@fh5926 And a Centaur, Chariklo, also has a ring.

[@stevenweller1673]

Worry not, Anton. You still run rings around all those crazy clickchasers out there who think outrageous headers will bring in eyeballs and then speak to us like we're ignorant. Just keep on keeping on and thanks for the correction. S.W.

[@privateerburrows]

It could also be that the ancient inhabitants of Mars had a bi-annual bicycle sports competition on Phobos.

[@einienj3281]

It's a spaceship with a drunken driver, was badly scratched in the mars ring.. 😄😉

[@letthetunesflow]

Damn there is just something so wholesome, relaxing, friendly, and perfect about you and your videos Anton! These videos instantly makes everything feel like it’s going to be OK, no matter how bad of a day I have had I know at the very least things will be fantastic for the duration of Your videos. As soon as you hear you say “Hello wonderful person!”, I just know we are all in for a treat! Keep crushing it Anton! You are Ray of light in a world full of negativity and conflict! You are one of those people who shows the world how we can all get along and treat each other with respect and compassion by living by a set of ideals that we all could learn from! No matter how tough life gets you keep living by your morals, and continue to be a champion for humanity, and we could all learn from you. Just know you have changed so many lives by being a positive role model. You may not sees just how important your message is for so many people, just the way you act and conduct yourself with an absolute love and passion for spreading knowledge, compassion, and wholesome positivity impacts people like myself in incredibly impactful way! Keep having fun, and continue following your heart and passions, we are all excited to join you on this ride!

[@whatdamath]

but it is going be ok

[@stefaniasmanio5857]

💓👍👍👍👏👏👏👏

[@letthetunesflow]

@@whatdamath Yup! But we all need a reminder of that every so often. I just know that if I press play on one of your videos I’m going to be reminded of that, and in for a treat!

[@simonmultiverse6349]

That's no moon!

[@ИльдарБикбаев-т5р]

@@whatdamath 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@42ZaphodB42]

The moons of the solar system are my favorite objects. They hold so many secrets and are incredibly diverse in appearance and composition!

[@sarawebbscience]

100% agree!! I think the quicker we explore moons the more incredible science we’ll uncover :)

[@craigmackay4909]

Titan !

[@ViperEye]

Really looking forward to JAXA's MMX mission getting a closer look of both Phobos & Deimos.

[@eric212234]

Just joined as a patreon. First time ever. You do amazing things Anton. You inspire me. You inspire many. Your efforts have a kind of leverage magnified a million fold. Keep it up ;)

[@whatdamath]

thank you Eric

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always anton. Thank you. 😊👍

[@topandeneil]

Your rate of production of superb videos is staggering. You are brilliant. And very, very, energetic!

[@MR-intel]

This is really interesting. A compelling explanation. Thank you.

[@osmosisjones4912]

a ring would protect the planet and atmosphere from solar radiation

[@MR-intel]

@@osmosisjones4912 No, it wouldn't.

[@nilo70]

Thank you again Anton for showing me things I never knew before !

[@-jeff-]

TY Anton for really getting into your groove with this vid!

[@LuciFeric137]

Phobos should be the next celestial body on which humans should land. Great natural space station for Mars exploration.

[@vermasean]

Hello Wonderful Fans!! 👋

[@altair8598]

The "second ringed planet"? I thought Uranus had rings as well?

[@JROD082384]

As does Jupiter and Neptune. Anton is just a science parrot at this point in his life, and he doesn't truly understand or retain any prior information he reports on.

[@spearshake3947]

That struck me, too, Mitts. Wasn't it you (Anton) that just told us a few days ago that it had been recently discovered that Jupiter had very faint rings. And iiRC, Neptune has rings, too! Still, Anton, I love your vids here and on your other channel (Thanks, for keeping us wannabes (sp?) informed!)

[@annoyed707]

Doesn't look like you have ANY science content on your channel.

[@nephthysbastet4809]

Pinned by Anton Petrov @whatdamath 7 hours ago Oopsie correction: (As mentioned by wonderful people below) It wouldn't be the second ringed planet, it would be the fifth Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune all have rings as explored in many videos before

[@nephthysbastet4809]

Jesus Christ...There it is, from Anton, at the very top of the comments. He misspoke but go ahead with your assumptions that he's a dumbass and doesn't know science from a hole in the ground. At least, I can READ the comments before I bitch about a mistake being made.

[@fenman1954]

Thanks for a very interesting video Anton.

[@Techmagus76]

Isn't the tidal force around a smaller black hole bigger then a super massive black hole as the gradient is much higher?

[@booklover6753]

It is. Oops! Well, near the event horizon anyway. A SMBH has a much farther reach, so to speak, making it able to induce tidal stresses from a longer distance. He's probably thinking along the lines of a small black hole simply ripping the moon apart during the first close flyby due to the steep gradient. An object is, oddly enough, more likely to remain stable near a SMBH because of the more gentle gradient. That being said, the definition of 'near' represents two totally different numbers when comparing a stellar mass BH to a SMBH. The latter has an accretion disk that extends much farther, and those disks are known to be bad places to hang out. I better stop, my brain is starting to hurt.

[@MildlyAnnoying99]

Mars won't be the second ringed planet because all of the gas giants have rings(small rings but rings nonetheless).Mars would be the first ringed terrestrial planet though.

[@faker-scambait]

Another great video Anton 👍👍

[@Astras-Stargate]

If Mars gets a ring, it will be the first rocky planet with a ring! The image shown around 5:50 shows dust on Phobos that is very orange, unless it's really a false color image. Those dust storms on Mars actually shoot dust into space, and Phobos must have been collecting it for centuries. Thanks for another great video, Anton!

[@yvonnemiezis5199]

Really interesting,thank you😊

[@chriswilliamson9993]

Damn, with Phobos orbiting so quickly, I'd really hate to be a Martian Werewolf

[@booklover6753]

You'd be so busy changing back and forth that you wouldn't have time to relax and chew on somebody. I mean, if you go to a Martian spaceport and see a dude at the ticket counter with a furry tail sticking out of his suit jacket, you know what's up.

[@weaksause6878]

You're the best, Anton!

[@AceSpadeThePikachu]

I wonder if this effect can also partially explain Miranda's (one of Uranus's moons) messy patch-work surface.

[@booklover6753]

Good question.

[@roguemajin46290]

That's awesome to imagine one-day mars will have rings

[@kaarlimakela3413]

A body of a certain age will develop these striations after being pulled in so many directions for so long. But that just makes her even more fascinating than one of those new wandering bodies that come along!

[@booklover6753]

Thank you Anton. Well done as always.

[@iowafarmboy]

Based on that, i bet putting a (or a few) seismometers on phobos would be a really cool mission. Try to get some kind of measurement of the effects of the tidal disruption.

[@sarawebbscience]

That would be an amazing mission!!

[@c0rtikoZteroids1]

Such an excellent video. This kind of thing makes me love astronomy even more.

[@Iamthelolrus]

There goes my theory of massive moon snails...

[@MsCrazylegs80]

I love your comment,made me laugh,I’ve seen a video showing how these rocks move on the surface,it’s quite amazing.I’ve also seen videos on the possibilities of it being spacecraft lines!?.✌️❤️

[@sarawebbscience]

This made me genuinely giggle out loud! 😂 I wish mars had snails

[@pnf197]

We probably didn't need to go so far to figure that out; I have stretch marks from weight gain/loss, same idea:) Thanks Anton as always, hope you had a fab vacation that was overdue and well deserved!

[@jamessmith4229]

Rings around Mars would mess with the concept of a Space Elevator. Phooey!

[@MaryAnnNytowl]

This makes a whole lot of sense! I haven't looked at the paper yet, but I'd be willing to say it's completely logical. Thanks for all you do, Anton! ❤️❤️

[@ivornelsson2238]

Excuse me. How can you say it´s logical in advance as you haven´t read the article?

[@tayzonday]

What computer science career path leads to programming cosmological simulations?

[@booklover6753]

Is that a loaded question? LOL! 😎

[@booklover6753]

OK, sorry. The primary prerequisites for generating those kinds of simulations would be mathematics and a working knowledge of gravitational mechanics and physics in general. Basically, you need to be an astronomy and physics braincase to even know how to generate such a simulation, i.e. knowing what equations to put into the simulations. The computer skills would be something you pick up during the educational process. If you're already pursuing computer science, then broaden your education to include astronomy and physics as well, then you get to wear multiple feathers in your hat. 👍😎

[@tayzonday]

@@booklover6753 I was partly curious as to whether the physicists are one discipline and the computer scientists are another. Do physics departments seek to work with bright computer scientists?

[@paulwalsh2344]

The idea of stretch marks is kinda cool, but I always thought and still do, that those dimples in the parallel groves couldn't possibly be rolling rocks, but funnels of sand and dust like in an hourglass that is seeping down to interior cavities that due to the shock of the collision that created Stickney crater. Th fact that they were so parallel must've had something to do with the speed of impact causing radial cracks to form. And not just from one impact, but possibly simply the last impact of an already shattered moon.

[@sciencetroll6304]

I lobbed onto the rolling boulder idea at first, till I thought of how much mass was moved out of the channels compared to the probable mass of the boulder.

[@Turdfergusen382]

I immediately thought of the tiger stripes on Enceladus

[@phoule76]

how Phobos got its grooves back

[@SourDeeSloth]

Phobo's turning into a ring and back into a satellite, there's something beautiful about that.

[@osmosisjones4912]

A ring would protect the atmosphere from solar radiation. More evidence of more recently habitable mars is pilling up

[@nunyabisnass1141]

agreed, it's like pawning my wife's engagement ring to buy a drone. No regrets.

[@pnf197]

The 'ring' is incidental; it's a beautiful idea that a rock orbiting a planet for billions of yrs would fragment into billions of pieces and then reconstruct again -- cycles, belonging, reconstruction...

[@handledav]

yes

[@SedatKPunkt]

​ @Anton Petrov I have the best…let's call pedagogic effect which I attribute to cross-references to older coverages of the same topic when you point with your index finger onto the upper-right corner and the follow-ups when there are new discoveries about a previously covered topic. BUT WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT YOUR CHANNEL IS THE COVERAGE OF NEWLY PUBLISHED PAPERS: Before the KZbin era (and before the Whatdamath era) the high-end production of science documentaries usually covered stuff that already became established science. Either aught in university, printed in textbooks or even topic of popular science books. Your stuff is often only a few days old. I often wonder if you run a script that automatically queries publication platforms, searches for certain keywords and notifies you with an CSV-export.…what is your secret? 😅😂🤣🤪

[@yt-viewerfromger320]

Wizards usually don't disclose their secrets..!

[@H5subway5707]

08:35 Supermassive black holes actually produce very weak tidal forces outside the event horizon. The smaller a black hole, the more extreme the tidal forces

[@andycordy5190]

I'd be very interested to learn more about how it came to be proposed that the decomposed Phobos could be reassembled.

[@harlequinems]

It would be the same process as Saturn's rings and moons, the stuff in the rings collides and sticks together until it becomes massive enough that the planets gravity starts to create tidal forces and cracks it apart again

[@andycordy5190]

@@harlequinems I think the fundamental problem would be that the rings of Saturn are composed of ices, the theoretical rings of Mars would be silicate mineral or metallic oxide in nature. In order to agglomerate, very high temperatures would be required 1100°C or greater depending on composition.

[@harlequinems]

@@andycordy5190 it isn't so much that the stuff needs to physically melt together, it's that microgravity in that situation means that the bigger pieces attract and gather the smaller pieces, think of it like when you put leaves into water, they float around until they are drawn in to each other. These smaller pieces are traveling fast enough to be in a geostationary orbit, where they are moving away from the planet fast enough that the planets gravity can't pull them to the surface, but the more they clump together the more mass they have which is able to be pulled on by the planets gravity and the amalgamation slows down, eventually it becomes massive enough that it is struggling to stay in orbit and you get tidal pulls on the object stretching it and breaking it apart with the opposing forces of velocity and gravity and it comes apart again. Its why whenever a probe has landed on an asteroid it finds a really deep dusty layer on its surface, its all the bust and debris that has been attracted over time but hasn't been buried deep enough that it has compacted yet

[@jacobwilson6296]

Thank you

[@jeroenvangastel9079]

Thanks 🙏 for another great video I can tell my son about.

[@RobDucharme]

I'm confused by the statement, "making Mars the second ringed planet." Shouldn't that be "fifth ringed planet"?

[@whatdamath]

indeed!

[@starwatcher9900]

It puts a whole new way of looking at a sinkhole

[@stevengill1736]

So pretty soon the moon Phobos is going to be the cloud Phobos, then Mars' Phobos ring? Cool!

[@JesusChristDenton_7]

"We are receiving sporadic intermissions from Phobos, where it seems that a military base has been invaded. All of our current information is coming from a lone space marine who is fighting the incursion..."

[@Christian_1701]

Incredible stuff!!!

[@craigmackay4909]

Fobos-grunt would have been an epic mission.

[@JulesStoop]

1:22 I believe 11.3 km is its mean radius so about half the average diameter. Phobos’ longest axis is 27 km.

[@MCsCreations]

Mars doesn't have moons, it has potatoes! (Hmmm... I'm hungry! 😬)

[@dannyobrian5957]

Low velocity impact leading to slow meteor impacts that scrape the surface ? Dunno

[@captainAlex258]

so celidus is gonna be destroyed as well?

[@korpen2858]

It's the boulders! The pioneers used to ride on them for miles!

[@MsCrazylegs80]

😂😂😂👍🏼❤️

[@dbell95008]

This prompted a memory from my childhood, reading this book: Lost: a moon: Capon, Paul

[@Silverfurry89]

My theory is Phobos aliens used go carts to reach escape velocity.

[@JROD082384]

That sentence doesn't make sense from the first word you typed to the last...

[@MsCrazylegs80]

😂😂😂👍🏼❤️

[@Silverfurry89]

@@JROD082384 I meant escape velocity and I have add and anxiety that makes insomnia that makes me spiral out of control. I type comments and redo sentences several times. Sometimes I delete to much or too little so there’s multiple of a word or missing words.

[@WildBillCox13]

I still hold out for the impact artifact hypothesis.

[@Sonofdonald2024]

I've always had a soft spot for Phobos and Deimos . Gutted that all the russian Phobos probes were failures

[@3characterhandlerequired]

Fun fact about Mars moons is that one sets to east, another to west. The fact that Phobos is so close makes it orbit a lot faster than Mars itself revolves around itself. Deimos OTOH is almost perfectly tidal-locked and orbits only slightly slower than Mars revolves (~30h orbit vs ~24h). I wonder if that difference comes from Phobos making Mars spin faster.

[@rais1953]

Unlikely. Phobos is too tiny to have much tidal effect on Mars. Consider how limited - noticeable but limited - is the tidal effect on Earth of our enormous planet-sized Moon.

[@Jamiefearon]

2nd ringed planet? What about Uranus, Neptune and Jupiter?

[@cchavezjr7]

I was just thinking the same thing lol

[@johnirby493]

Buck Rogers was practicing some touch and gos.😀

[@michaeljames5936]

'Phobos', the fifth and most timorous of the Musketeers.

[@annapierce8666]

There are tracks like that on our Earth moon as well...

[@michaelclement1337]

Is the orbit of Phobos irregular enough to cause tidal heating?

[@jallen8281]

Thanks

[@bernardedwards8461]

How deep would a mine shaft have to be on Mars to give a pressure and temperarature at the bottom of it not too disimilar from Earth? It would probably need to be less deep in volcanic areas than in other places. With a large,hydroponic farm disposing of CO2 and enriching the air with oxygen, you could perhaps have a shirtsleeve environment at the bottom. The pressure would need to be similar to that used in airliners. I wonder whether drainage would be a problem as it often is on Earth.

[@booklover6753]

The volcanic regions, such as the Tharsis dome, are actually higher in elevation. The bottom of Valles Marineris would be the way to go. That canyon is already really deep, so you'd have a head start.

[@bernardedwards8461]

@@booklover6753 You're probably right. I wonder how deep you'd have to go to find an acceptable temperature and pressure?

[@narusferree6506]

It's part of UAC operations and they're just covering it up

[@renesoucy3444]

Maybe the big collision that created this crater left internal scars to the structure of Phobos and the tidal forces are slowly revealing them? Imagine the sloshing effect to the internal ocean of Enceladus or Europa, gigantic ice cover moving up and down several kilometers, pumping enormous mass of water, creating gigantic tidal waves! That's enough to create gysers! Maybe those tidal waves reveal the somewhat murky water of the internal ocean of Europa, because of unerground volcanic activities caused by the tidal forces?

[@Thangarth]

Wouldn't it be the 5th ringed planet? Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, and Jupiter all have rings.

[@shablabh]

phobos is falling apart and has stretch marks, I am falling apart and have stretch marks, we're very similar :D

[@LuciFeric137]

Uranus also has rings

[@DanFrederiksen]

It looks like many of the craters break the lines. Doesn't that suggest that the lines are very old.

[@Kevin-hb7yq]

The other examples of tidal forces creating similar lines, show a marked reduction in craters and other 'geological' attributes.

[@petegriffin8149]

And the monolith... we want to know about the monolith....

[@uncleeric3317]

Those are the weld seams, obviously.

[@droogsurgeon1440]

I like to imagine that a colony of robotic vampires live on Phobos

[@miamitab3349]

The game Doom says those are tracks from mining ⛏️

[@S-T-E-V-E]

It looks like someone was rolling up snow to make Snowmen on Phobos! 😂

[@Barnardrab]

Tidal forces was my first guess.

[@stevejohnson3357]

Dune buggies, Anton. Aliens racing dune buggies.

[@MsCrazylegs80]

😂😂😂✌️❤️

[@kayakMike1000]

I was hoping they would be canals.

[@jimcallahan448]

Given that Earth has "tides" does Earth's moon have evidence of tidal effects?

[@aaron_d_henderson1984]

what do you mean 2nd ring planet? 2:13 we already have more than 2 planets with rings in our solar system: Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus. obviously Saturn being the one with the most and largest rings, but all 4 of those have some sort of "ring" so I'm not sure why you said Mars will be the 2nd ring planet... unless you misspoke.

[@whatdamath]

misspoke and you're correct

[@whatdamath]

in science we refer to these are brain fart

[@osmosisjones4912]

Thinking about life on a comet . They completely reshape the comet . And make it into one big space ship in the shape of phoboes

[@osmosisjones4912]

Would a ring protect the atmosphere from solar radiation.

[@nunya_bizniz]

No

[@MsCrazylegs80]

Earth has other satellites too,I’m postulating that when the moon was closer to earth the same accrued during first tidal lock,the other satellites of earth is mainly dust and plasma orbiting earth.maybe the innermost part of most planets are electromagnetic plasma,dust and gases compacted in a thick formation,causing the stripping of material from the less magnetised mass to form unto or around other planets.⁉️✌️❤️

[@larry785]

As Spock would say: "Fascinating"

[@Zeithri]

Man I want universe sandbox but I don't wanna pay 25€ for it x_x Maybe if it was 5€... Anyway, this is fascinating. The idea that these are asteroids though and Mars just went "yoink, mine

[@tonydagostino6158]

Tidal tectonics! Wouldn't it be the fourth ringed planet?

[@cadenrolland5250]

So this moon is the remains of a set of rings that were themselves a previous moon. Who knows what generation moon this is and how many times this cycle can keep happening. It is a moon but one could think of it as a ring system its coalescent stage. Will the other moon collect the new ring debris and get bigger? So many new questions!

[@jedgould5531]

I thought you knew Uranus and Jupiter also have rings, however slight?

[@tekhd6006]

2nd ring planet is an error. All outer planets (gas giants) have rings.

[@JROD082384]

No shit, Sherlock. Everyone but Anton already knows this...

[@thelqualomee1040]

@@JROD082384 ey, he corrected himself. human error

[@arnokosterman231]

How it maintains form on eurths💜 where the contand flux of the crost dimention towart inside and outwards . We have rimples without collisions too😍

[@arnokosterman231]

If I look to those stripes 😍 they show dinamics😍🙏😍 as the orgien of the stripes🙏

[@arnokosterman231]

Not mesesrealy💜 that it fals apart it can become more active again🙏 do to the cosmic evends of our solarsistem and outside

[@arnokosterman231]

Jeah 😃😍🤣🤣 it looks like somting roled over bumpy🤣🤣🤣 Those bulbs are the windows inbetween this energy cicle😍

[@arnokosterman231]

Yeb 😍 title stretched marks😍 Harmonics is exelerating towart the core ecistance to become more dynamic and than it reset itself do to that it starts taking more again😍

[@arnokosterman231]

Ohhh😍😍😍 beautiful opservations and aproges towart understanding😍 Nice not to be distracted bi the bumps😍😍😍 Thank you and oll🙏😋🥰 Oll injoy beïng🖖🌈🍀🌳🌻🌳🍀 🐢

[@jasperstephens9333]

Well, there's a third possibility of electrostatic discharge . Check out the Thunder Bolts blog, and it my shed a bit more light as to the electrical universe hypothesis

[@neoforce0]

I believe they should just speed the 50 million year process and redirect the moon inward toward Mars so that future human society in mars won't have to worry about it

[@seanmostert4213]

This explanation is somewhat accurate however, it is also inaccurate. These criss cross patterns are seen in the bark of trees such as the iron bark, bottlebrush, etc. They are also observed in the Auroras when viewed looking directly down from satellite imagery. They are also viewed when looking down towards sand dunes, the same cris cross pattern. They are also viewed when looking down at the surface of water on lakes and oceans. And if you look at DNA from the side you see a cross cross pattern that is identical. It’s the force that binds all existence, and so you see it everywhere.

[@larrystenger1247]

It would appear that all life as we know it consists of organic computer material with humans the most complicated. The real question is why is this so, what is the overall pupose and will humans be smart enough not to destroy itself and the life forms it shares space with.

[@MikeC1]

Doom guy left his mark

[@KennyG_420]

I wished we could see Phobos crash into Mars in our lifetime

[@denstontjackson6279]

What about the creators that are on the surface of the moon or could that be caused by asteroids bombarding it knowing that Mars has four celestial bodies orbiting it

[@nathanielcrosby2426]

I thought that was just a scar from being teleported all the way to Hell.

[@PapiBocaChula]

Vesta and Phobos both have the same marks. And they both look like a huge mining rig that captured them then mined them.and moved on.

[@miamitab3349]

Like the game Doom