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[@amygone2pot]

Your reactions are not popular because they are “a bit more emotional”. They are popular because they are thoughtful and insightful. Thank you.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you! I appreciate you saying that!

[@anjaboltin3299]

So true!! I found you just a few hours ago and I love your mixture of feeling and knowing so much!

[@HyperBole89]

Respectfully.. don’t you dare ever apologize for FEELING ever again. Thank you for being you.

[@PrymalChaos]

You have my word!

[@MissMeKate]

He went live on twitch after this released to let people know he was ok, and to check on his fans after listening to it. And he is in the uk right now after delivering a cheque to the lifeboat service that helped search for Joe. He raised 21k. He also gave Joe's parents half the money from the latest cd press so they can buy a caravan. They plan to name it after Joe so he can travel with them. ❤ Together they will save lives.

[@kimberlyjames4951]

❤

[@PrymalChaos]

Yeah I saw that on his discord. What an absolute genuine soul!

[@sabrinaevans8746]

That’s good news. Thank you

[@acethefreak4785]

Well, I’m gonna go cry now.

[@xdaniedx]

Ren went back to the UK for a month. Yesterday he went to his hometown in Whales and with the proceeds from this song he gave a check for 21,000 pounds to the volunteer organization that was out immediately looking for Joe after he jumped and in the days afterwards. He posted about it on his community page here on KZbin and on his Instagram he has the news interviews he did. One of the interviews he was speaking Welsh and it threw people off not know what language he was speaking. He then went to see Joe's parents for only the second time in 12 years since he passed away. He played them the new song he premiered today called "For Joe" and he said they all cried and hugged. He then gave them a check for 8,600 pounds and they told Ren it's going towards a camper van his mom and dad have been saving for that they're going to name Joe and travel all around the UK. The money Ren gave them will pay for it fully and they were so happy to see him and for the money. Ren is amazing even though he breaks our hearts with his songs. But the broken hearts let us all know we're not alone in our sadness and sorrow. We all feel the same pain and he brings the humanity in us all. Sending you a long distance bro hug from New York.

[@lauralynn1124]

In some of his interviews he talked about how bad it was the first years of sickness and that he told his mom he couldn't last one more year but he just kept pushing through. One of his main reasons was he didn't want anyone to experience the feelings he had about Joe.

[@PrymalChaos]

That's amazing strength!

[@timotimo4152]

I've watched a lot of these 'reactions' and your closing remarks were some of the best I've heard. Sets you apart from most reactors... and IMHO were absolutely spot on. The music industry has been so comprehensively hijacked by business and diluted and trivialised accordingly. Ren is breath of fresh air in a medium that's been otherwise largely killed off as an avenue of genuine art.

[@mldkenny]

Brilliantly said.

[@PrymalChaos]

Couldn't agree more! Thanks for the kind words!

[@pippafinland]

Right? And Ren is also lifting up other talented artists and reactors, too. What a beautiful soul. 👌🏻

[@woodywoodman2319]

Bro... he just dropped a new video! Ren doesn't miss... is unbelievably awesome!!! He IS changing the music industry for the better! Not to mention helping, and even Saving people in incalculable ways! Rens doing Ren things! And I'm here for it!!!

[@markc1339]

The callbacks were both to 'Sick Boi'

[@jamescurrie7678]

Only Ren can build the level of trepidation before listening to a track

[@PrymalChaos]

Agreed!

[@vattulaitti]

"never really felt like a right time" seems to really resonate for those who have been there. There just isn't a right time. Someone needs you, something you need to finish, something depends on you, someone else is in bad place and you couldn't leave them just now and so on. To me it literally means not finding the right time to end it. It's surprisingly hard to explain. Lot of lines in his song I can't explain but somehow they make sense and I just understand it.

[@JohnGatesIII]

What makes Ren unique, in THIS day and age, is his Honesty and Integrity. He writes songs from a place of complete honesty; there's no subject "off-limits" or too taboo. He has the Integrity to write it for Himself....not worrying about "Commercial Success", but what is "TRUE" for him. He is gaining an audience because people recognize that in him, in his songs. Even though Ren has almost 1 Million subscribers and has found success.....there's not really ONE of his songs, that by TODAY's standards, should be successful. In today music world of singing about Drugs, Booze, Hoes, Chains, Whips, Money and Cribs....Ren doesn't glamorize ANY of it. He sings about females, in his song "Girls", but it's about how SHY he is. He sings about booze and drugs in "What went Wrong 1&2", but he ends up in prison, having ruined his life. He doesn't sing about a Fantasy, but about Reality, and that hits home with so Many of us. It doesn't hurt that he's an incredible word-smith, an outstanding musician and can sing just about anything he puts his mind to.

[@PrymalChaos]

I guess success can be measured in inumerable ways, reaching far beyond what the top 40 would have you believe. Great insight! Thank you.

[@GoodGirlGone]

Great reaction!! My opinion on this: Ren wrote the first half more than 2 years ago.. and shelved it as he always thought it was unfinished.. I think he brushed it off to add to the album (Sick Boi) after the CNN issue (before this he said that he filmed everything for Sick Boi before he went to Canada, and that Hi Ren was actually the last song he wrote.. so the fact that the video was filmed in Calgary, adds to my belief that it was added later. Then, they have already mastered it, when he did the Knox Hill interview, where a chance question had him talking about Joe, and he decided to write an ending for this song.. he said he just sat down at the piano, and after every few lines, just got up and record it, and let his emotions come out as they are.. he also did not rewrite or change anything.. he wanted this as raw as possible… which then ended up a beautiful tribute to his friend, and finished off his song beautifully. So the first half is absolutely about him (and “never felt like the right time” is about not taking that last step.. and delves into how you feel when you are contemplating it.. but the last part balances it perfectly and tells a real life story about what the people who are left behind are dealing with, and how difficult and impactful such a quick decision late at night can be (quoted from How to be me live). I like how he took a taboo word and repeated it several times in the catchy chorus (to the point where I caught myself for days after just randomly singing “suicide, suicide, suicide”.. thus making the word itself more acceptable and less taboo… to bring this whole comment back to the beginning, as an answer to the CNN report. Again, all of this is just in my opinion.

[@PrymalChaos]

Imagine investing all that emotional energy into a piece like this only to shelve it. I'm really glad it made it out into the light.

[@sarahcp6117]

I interpreted "it never really felt like the right time" to mean it has never felt like the right time to give into those urges. Sending you peace and love

[@PrymalChaos]

Yeah I think that's what I feel like too. Although I suppose it could be argued that Ren is known to weave multiple meanings through his phrasing. Maybe it means many things all at once.

[@CreativePhotoWS]

Thank you. I haven’t watched your reaction yet but simply listened to your intro. Your approach, to me, is EXACTLY how I wanted to see reactors approach this. With some trepidation and gravitas and not simply jumping on the Ren train for subs. Frankly I’ve turned off many reactors simply because of their energy before they watched this. Ok. Ima going to take a breath, grab your hand and watch this with you. Again, thank you.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thanks for that. I appreciate you watching and I hope it didn't disappoint.

[@spellcaster7893]

Love the way your brain works, everything you say is well thought out, nothing is flippant or just guff to fill the space for a reaction. It’s reactors like you who are teachers, it opens my thinking and I love it. Ren truly is one of a kind, maybe that’s why he feels the way he does, because there is no one else like him. In regards to the call back to Sic Boy, Rens catalogue is littered with Easter eggs, it’s like stepping stones through his work.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you for your kind words! ❤️

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You're right. I've posted a few times along the lines of "Ren, you're helping us, but..... Look after you" If this becomes a responsibility it's dangerous for him. .

[@sicmuvva11]

If you watch Rens views on success, when Hi Ren made 1000,000 subs, he is a truly humble soul and cares deeply for other people going through dark times so they don’t feel alone.The best artist I’ve heard since the 70’s. Yes I’m a 64yr old grandmother who hated rap and this young man has totally changed my mind I have listened to so many tracks and not heard one I didn’t like. Solo’s The Big Push band he was in and Trick the fox band before that!

[@drealyn1486]

great reaction. for the callback he sampled Sick Boi. I take the line "It never really felt like the right time" when he contemplated, it was never quite the right time to do it. Ren is the true definition of an artist which is probably why his words resonate with so many of us on such a deep level.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you! And he certainly is.

[@dorkette_chicky]

Ren is therapy. Appreciate the time you took with this one. Peace friend.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you for watching!

[@aireos2208]

Ren & NF hit the mark when it comes to telling a life story that helps Millions of people who relate and they dont do it for the money or the fame

[@poledra1980]

When I was at my lowest, I didn’t want to live. I didn’t necessarily want to kill myself, but if an accident took me out, that would suit me perfectly. So sometimes I’d go walking in dodgy areas at night, when I was driving I’d become keenly aware of sharp turns or steep drops or 18-wheelers in oncoming traffic - maybe I could influence the chances of an accident or incident happen. But it never felt like the right time to let go of the wheel or head down that particular alleyway. Mostly I attribute that to my dog at the time - she was insecure aggressive toward people. If I died, that was her death sentence too, and I couldn’t do that to her. I’m on the other side of that darkness now, but I remember that feeling of “no, not now, maybe tomorrow I’ll start looking for a new home for her, and then…” … and then I didn’t :)

[@PrymalChaos]

I'm glad you are heading down a better path now! Keep fighting the good fight mate! Also this is 100% why I'm a dog person. We don't deserve them.

[@JohnPaul-hm2ys]

This is followed up with For Joe. It is a heartbreaker, as expands upon this. And, introduces another talent from Ren.

[@PrymalChaos]

Not sure I'm ready.

[@JohnPaul-hm2ys]

@@PrymalChaos I understand

[@lillyvanpug]

Going through these reactions and feeling the love, support and empathy in the comments is healing. So much positivity and comfort going around. This song is heavy but it opens up a conversation that is needed. Lots of love to you 🖤

[@PrymalChaos]

Agreed! What a great community of supporters that Ren has.

[@TheSyncos]

Since it always follows "treading on the tracks in the night time" I read it as your first interpretation of "Never really felt like the right time". Death by train is a rather common.

[@PrymalChaos]

Oh wow! Thanks for spotting that. I guess I missed it because that one line stood out to me so much.

[@Daloon01]

Heartfelt, thought provoking reaction and follow up discussion. You’re a real one, mate. ✌️

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you!

[@stephenrochford7631]

I never comment on youtube But I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy watching your reactions. Honestly you are just naturally genuine and authentic, Very smart too. Thank you.

[@PrymalChaos]

That is a powerful compliment my friend. I appreciate you watching!

[@1tommymulligan]

Great reaction, for those who don't know the history of this song. Posted by Ren Ren: Today I want to write something beautiful and eloquent but I’ve been staring at my computer screen for the past 10 minutes blankly. So I’ll just write. Today, the 1st of June is my friend Joe’s birthday. I first met Joe when I was 8 years old, my friend Josh said I had to meet this guy, so we both walked over to his, it took about 10 minutes from my house. I was greeted by this kid covered head to toe in freckles, he grinned at us, climbed onto the back of his sofa and screamed “Swanton Bomb!” then front flipped off the top and landed right onto his back on a stone floor. He lay still for a moment, twitched a few times, then got up, grinned at us, brushed himself off, and did it again. This was Joe. He’d do anything to make people laugh. He ended up becoming one of my best friends. He was there when we stole our first cigarettes out of his mums pack, way too young. He was there when I had my first kiss, with a girl twice my size on the back of the 42 bus. He was there when I first got so drunk I threw up in the woods after drinking as much white lightning Cider as we could. I was there when he did his first backflip on skates, and saw him do a 720 off of the pier cave, that moment became legendary. Joe was the funny one in our friend group, he’d make us laugh till it hurt. No one had a bad word to say about him. It was impossible not to like him. Usually we put celebrities, athletes and actors on pedestals, turn them into role models and admire them from a far. The person I admired was Joe. Him and Sagar knew every word to the songs id write, we’d get drunk at parties and they’d be singing along as loud as they could. It gave me a lot of confidence back then. On Christmas Eve 2010 I was sitting in a pub with Joe, he’d been feeling low after a couple of consecutive break ups. He tried to check himself into a mental health outpatient facility a few weeks earlier but they turned him away because he didn’t have an appointment. He turned to me and said that sometimes he wished he could just walk into the sea and keep walking. He said it in a kind of half joking throw away comment type of way, then took a sip of his drink, walked over to the juke box and put Dig by Incubus on. If I knew that was the last time I’d see Joe id have hugged him, told him how much I loved him, how much I looked up to him, how much we all loved him, and I wouldn’t have left that pub. I didn’t know that, so I finished my drink, said happy Christmas and left. Two nights after Christmas I got woken up by a phone call at 3am, it was my friend Ella. She told me Joe was on the Menai Bridge, a large suspension bridge connecting the main land to the isle of Anglesey where we lived. He’d been on the phone to her in tears saying goodbye. He told her to tell everyone he loved them. I pulled on my clothes as fast as I could and started running toward the bridge. It was up a hill. I lived about a ten minute walk away, I could run it in five. As I ran I started dialling then redialing his number. The line was busy, which was a good sign, it meant he was still on the phone to someone. As I got about halfway, the busy tone changed. It told me the line was out of service. I got a sinking feeling and picked up my speed. I arrived to the bridge minutes after I left my house. It was deafeningly quiet. I was the first person to arrive. I got there probably about 2 minutes too late. Joe’s body was never found. Initially we refused to believe he was gone. The coastguard came out that night, with boats, and helicopters. Me and my friends spent the next 10 days putting up missing posters everywhere we could, walking up and down beaches with flashlights, getting about 3 hours sleep a night. When you’re walking up and down a beach with a torch when its dark everything looks like a body. We still haven’t found Joe. As his birthday came around, I wrote a song, freckled angels, a song I dedicated to Joe which I sang in front of his friends and family. A charity football match was put on for him, raising money for the RNLI where I won two bottles of wine in a raffle, I drank them both as quickly as I could, naturally, turned to my friend and probably slurred something along the lines of “This is the last time I ever drink” That was 12 years ago, I haven’t touched a drop of alcohol since. My first ever album I named Freckled Angels in tribute of one of the best people I ever knew. Skip forward some years. I’d been sitting on this song I wrote a few years ago. It always felt a little incomplete. It was going to be my next release, but I was dreading it because of this feeling of incompletion. I decided, very last minute, to do something about it. I sat by my piano, and the rest of the song fell out of me. I hadn’t thought about Joe in a little while, and the song initially wasn’t going to be about him, but the words all fell out of me. I wrote and recorded a whole 2 minutes extra, recording each part as I wrote it. Tears spewing out of my eyes pretty much the whole time, and decided not to do my usual thing of perfecting each line, I just recorded every line as it came. This will be my next release. You can turn on notifications by following the link in the comments below During this campaign I will be raising money for the RNLI, the group of brave men and women who spent hours tirelessly looking for Joe after the night he went missing. I'll also be donating 50% of the profit on all copies of the 'Freckled Angels' album directly to Joes family as a nice surprise gift. I will include links to the RNLI donation page below where 100% of the money will go to support them, I will be travelling to the UK later this month to make a music video, and have carved out a couple of days where I will travel to my home town on the isle of Anglesey to present the royal national lifeboat institution with a cheque of all the money raised.

[@MoreKellBellPlease]

I cried too. He's be through so much. I truly appreciate him sharing and being vulnerable with us.

[@Aurora-cv5to]

BBC news (the live news) posted a clip of an interview with Ren on this with - he speaks of breaking the silence, and the problem of NOT speaking of it and leaving it as a forbidden topic means that people who need help, probably won't ask.

[@PrymalChaos]

Couldn't be more accurate. The problem is that it's an uncomfortable thing to just open up about. This song is a great first step.

[@karenmccabe2167]

Great, honest reaction. It feels like some of these reactions for Ren are from people that just react for the likes, etc...and not really invested in anything beyond what brings people to their channel. (I even saw one channel selling Ren merch) Anyway, thanks for the honest reaction. I feel so lucky to have found Ren about 5 months ago. It's been such a gift.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thanks Karen! I'm not gonna lie, I look at the metrics just like everyone else does, but more often than not, I'm happy if a video gets 200 views as long as it makes someone's day. I just had my first video break 100000 views a few days back, but I'm equally as proud of the multitude of reactions that hardly anyone noticed, because there's always someone who is psyched that I took the time to check out their favourite song. I'm chasing a rush just like the viewer, this channel has introduced me to do much phenomenal art that I never would have known about. Often mind-blowing, however I rarely find anything that keeps me coming back over and over in the way that Ren does.

[@Gr4Ss13]

Great reaction vid. The line "It never really felt like the right time" always sounded to me like the right time to commit the act because of things going on or people around him. But a while ago someone I know who struggles with depression and I had a conversation. He said something to me about how, to him, it never feels like the right time to reach out and talk about how he feels or ask for help, because other people are always going through stuff as well and he doesn't want to be a bother to them during that. Even though he's always one to be there for others. So now I'm wondering if it could maybe mean that as well.

[@lauralynn1124]

Wow! Best contemplative reaction I have heard so far. I really loved your take on it.

[@PrymalChaos]

Wow, thank you!

[@kieramaccourt8717]

As someone who's been down this rabbit hole (and got help, I checked myself into hospital) the "it never really felt like the right time" means two things. First, I never really felt like I belonged and that my exsistance WAS inconvenient to people I relied on. I have a lot of physical health problems and chronic pain. I felt like I was a burden. Second, and the thing that made me get help, I knew what kind of impact my death would bring to the people I loved. I didn't want to hurt THEM. I didn't (at that time) care enough about myself, but I did care about the people around me. I know that it's a contradiction--I cared about them so I didn't want to burden them, but I didn't want to hurt them with my death. I never heard about Ren until this video. I can't even explain how much this song meant to me, personally. I felt every single lyric in my soul. It's been a long road of extensive therapy and some medication, but I made it! And no, the people around me didn't know how low and dark I felt. It was a total shock. Please, if you feel like you don't belong, you feel alone and helpless, you feel like you can't go on-- GET HELP.

[@StephiesCorner]

From Ren's Twitch stream, he said the first part of the song was about himself having those thoughts, but it never felt like the right time to go through with it. He added the last part to make the song feel more complete after his interview with @KnoxHill when they were talking about Joe. Ren said in the interview that it was one of the first times he had actually talked with someone about Joe in real time. Afterwards he felt it was time to share his feelings regarding Joe's loss and added the final verses. As he wrote each one he'd stop and record it so he could capture the full impact of the emotions as they hit him. It's beautiful and healing to open yourself up like that. It makes me love Ren all the more as a human being. Never be afraid to show your humanity. It doesnt make you weak, it makes you relatable. ❤

[@hilarycharman-2924]

You've become my new favourite reactor. I hope Ren sees some of hour reactions.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thanks Hilary, that's too kind of a compliment!

[@gingerroo123]

Thank you. This song hits hard. I still cry every single time- i still listen almost daily. I've watched numerous reactions. I really appreciate your openness, honesty and willingness to have a conversation. New sub. Thank you. 💛

[@PrymalChaos]

You are so welcome

[@MrMooose2010]

Grief never ends, sometimes the edges smooth away and its manageable, but it is a stone you carry forever, and when you think you can handle it it can become jagged again and the cycle goes on. and on

[@PrymalChaos]

Hope you're doing ok mate.

[@elizabethgregory7998]

You'll probably never read this...I'm commenting on reactions you've done months ago. I found you on KZbin only yesterday! I'm a Renegade 😊 & have been for about 2 years now. I just wanted to say your reactions are truly connecting with me on a similar level to how Ren does. You are authentic & appreciate talent because you understand it. You SEE it, you GET it & you my friend, are incredibly talented & knowledgeable too 🤗 I left Australia just over 10 years ago & miss it very much. Just hearing your accent makes me feel at home. I'm a sometimes writer, artist & music aficionado & omg I would love to sit down & chew the fat with you & a few mates over a barbie 😂 Thank you for the heartfelt reactions & introducing me to some truly talented artists. Don't stop ❤

[@PrymalChaos]

Read… lol! Hi thank you for commenting! I think you are offering more praise than maybe I deserve but I’m glad you appreciate my videos!

[@TobiiRheaStarr]

Beautiful reaction. The callbacks were to SickBoi, the title track to the upcoming album. The end part of this track was actually added on after his interview with Knox Hill. He recorded it there and then and used the first take including tears and emotion. 🖤

[@eterniuslol365]

Your reaction was the same as the ending of this song. Raw, real, and talking about what people actually go through. In my opinion, the biggest musical travesty in the last century is the fact that Ren's album wasn't nominated for a single Grammy. Which is ironic, considering the contents of "Hi Ren". It's almost like he predicted it. But reactors like you are the reason that more people get exposure to this type of music that has such incredible heart and emotion behind it. Thank you for all you do. Don't ever stop. You're one of the real ones.

[@PrymalChaos]

Lately I have been having a bit of a crisis of faith when it comes to the channel. That comment means more than you realise. Thank you!

[@mariamakrynakis7586]

Yours might be my favorite reaction to this masterpiece....thank you

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you!

[@libby215]

A really insightful response - appreciated ☮

[@amandacollins2854]

The road map to this song is silent sobbing and a little under breath swearing as we try to get ourself back together. Anything less makes me doubt you'd humanity .❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@lucillescott]

You are a good man, one of the first who has mentioned that, although all looks good on the outside (with Ren) there may be great pain underneath and that people need to be cared for. Re Ren, I feel everyone is expecting so much of him, if you have seen some of the comments about him not responding, giving an opinion on current news etc. I truly worry for him. Thank you for an excellent reaction video.

[@PrymalChaos]

I think Ren is a strong guy. I feel like if the whole parasocial relationship thing he has with his fans gets too intense he would have the strength to step away for a while. At least I hope so. Passionate fans can be a lot. Especially in the numbers he has attracted. And his art is so emotionally connected that it breaks down that natural divide between the artist and the viewer. People can take this to mean that they share a personal relationship with Ren and that can be tricky to navigate. Also as an emotionally connected artist, you don’t want to keep people at arms length, but often you are left with little choice because you can’t be everything to everyone all the time. Otherwise there’s not enough left for yourself. In the words of Bilbo Baggins, “I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.” I’m not Ren, and all I’ve experienced regarding parsocial relationships is the small amount of interaction from my KZbin channel, but even then, people can be intense. I can’t even imagine the pressure put on him.

[@cyranobuckminster1970]

"Never really felt like the right time." From my personal experience, it means that every time I thought about doing it - and once or twice at the very last moment - I was always able to think of some reason not to do it. Sometimes it was practical: who going to have to clean up the mess?, what will it do to them?; sometimes it was "trivial": The new video game/movie I want to see is coming out next month so I should wait. That was always the key to my survival. You don't need a good reason to feel like it's not the right time, any reason is good enough.

[@PrymalChaos]

Whatever allows you to make it through to tomorrow is a win. Hope you're doing better mate.

[@cyranobuckminster1970]

@@PrymalChaos Thank you. I've found my balance and life is good. Only took about 40 years and I never expected to last this long. Another reason to slog your way through it.

[@MsMegF]

I think that lyric means that he hasn’t found the right time to throw himself in front of the train. He’s walking on the tracks, but it doesn’t feel like the right time.

[@Grecianfan1]

I think the first half is a raw subject with a commercial beat, while the second rap part is the raw subject with raw heartfelt words. Almost as though Ren felt he missed the mark of what he was trying to convey. After all, how do you approach the subject of suicide? In a way, Ren has succeeded, Hook you in with the beat then sucker punch with the hard message.

[@dancerbird76]

I noticed your reaction on the Ren discord reaction channel and thought I’d have a look. A lot of the community were saying good things. Really glad I did. Your reaction offered a lot of food for thought and different insights than some of the other reactions I’ve seen to this track. Ren’s art opens doors to difficult discussions - topics that people tend to shy away from but need to be talked about. His work is not created for a reaction. In the comments about this track, Ren talked about the two halves of the song and that the second part was prompted after his interview with Knox Hill. I love the two halves and how they fit together to form the whole. Think this track and For Joe, his most recent release have offered some catharsis for him. Great reaction - sub’d - will go back and look at some of your other Ren reactions.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thanks for taking a chance on my channel! I appreciate you watching.

[@CindyBaucom-sb1hd]

RENegades! The video of the younger REN talking about the pain and not being sure he can handle it….. hard to watch. Great reaction

[@sabrinaevans8746]

We all cried by the end

[@PrymalChaos]

It was a tough one, that's for sure.

[@Motomomsterr]

Intelligence reacting/commenting on intelligence … doesn’t get better than this. Just discovered your channel today and subbed. Thank you.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@sammyd8860]

Loved your reaction - thoughtful, compassionate and empathetic. I do sometimes worry a little for Ren because the level of attention/success he is getting right now may not be easy to handle/adjust to. However, he did say recently in Twitch that mentally he is absolutely fine. I can't recall if he has specifically said this, or if I have put it together in my head, but I am pretty sure that he said that the pain that he and others felt due to Joe's passing (as the second half of the song shows) have made him determined not to follow the same path. Also he has said that at the start of his illness he wasn't sure if he could hang on another year, but then found as each year brought more pain, somehow he got even stronger and more determined to live. That strength and resilience is remarkable and a brilliant example to anyone else who is suffering - no matter how bad it gets, it can always get better. There is always hope.

[@PrymalChaos]

I used to work with a much younger guy who had terrible Auto Immune problems. Crippling joint pain, awful stomach issues, etc. He was one of the most cheerful and enthusiastic and hard working people I ever met. He would ask sometimes to not be rostered on on consecutive days sometimes due to the pain, but other than that, on wifi the best staff members ever. I learned so much about positive attitudes from him.

[@sammyd8860]

@@PrymalChaos Thank you so much for sharing that. This may sound trite but sometimes we need to go through the fire to find out how strong we are. We are not born with strength of character and resilience, we learn them through experience/adversity

[@PrymalChaos]

@@sammyd8860 well said.

[@drizz771]

I watch alot of reaction video's and yours is one of the very few channels that keeps me engaged after the song/reaction is finished. Your emotion is real and your breakdowns and opinions are spot on mate. Keep up the great work!

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you! I appreciate you watching!

[@mrsmith6763]

Just responding to your intro (haven't even started the song yet!?!).....but just wanted to say "I was the same".....I think Ren is just once in a generation genius,but I put off listening to this for over a week cos I Knew it would bust open......and sure enough 😭🎵💯 yup,I cried like a babe. But in a good way.....if that makes sense 💬

[@PrymalChaos]

Right there with ya.

[@belindamelville2270]

Ren❤😢😢❤

[@furryelvis]

I shared the video on my facebook page. No reaction, just silence. We have all known people that took their own life. I can think of three people, yet nobody talks about them apart from me. I dont understand that. I loved these people and honour their memory.

[@ManneyM]

your reactions never fail to miss, you got your like by the end of the intro👍 his brilliant call out, that had your brain racing where you had seen it, was to his song was to "sick boi". big hugs bro 🤗🤗👍👍

[@PrymalChaos]

Thanks again mate!

[@Conservative4life]

I've been watching all Ren's music reactions since Hi Ren came out. I've seen Su!c!de reactions about 20 times +... And tear up EVERY time. Ren is absolutely phenomenal💪🙏. But what I appreciate even more is to see other people that really get his music and feel it as much as I do. Just saw your reaction and agree 100% with what you said. Just subcribed🕺

[@analisasmith7927]

I agree - pure art ❤- but with a message - and the gut punch is necessary.

[@PrymalChaos]

Somtimes art is pain.

[@docdurdin]

Hopefully you watched Sick Boi, that is the call back. Ren said a year into his illness he told hi mom he didn't think he do it anymore. He did not want to hurt her and his sister.

[@lowriebean8140]

Love your reactions 💕 My two favourite artists at the moment are Ren and Jason Isbell. They’re both supreme storytellers whose music reflects their lived experience - almost like therapy. Empathetic independent artists are obviously my thing!

[@Pablopax4]

Exactly. No record company would allow Ren to release this, Glad he's independent.

[@alanmai5656]

20 years finally someone i trust in music! well said brother

[@SkaterWillsy]

Nice approach to this. This song is definitely opening up the world to such a taboo subject

[@katstephenson8493]

It was so great to hear that he's been to see Joe's parents and he gave them some of the money from the donations he raised for the RNLI..I think it was around 8k.. regardless of that im sure they must have been so happy to see him. He really does have such a caring heart. Great work Ren. RIP Joe.🙏☮️💓🇬🇧

[@wexfordgirl1]

All the donations for RNLI went to them. The money for Joe's parents came from sales of his album Freckled Angel the title of which is a description of Joe. He is now a freckled angel.

[@alloralou4722]

Empathetic reaction. I’ve had too too many people around me lose their path and succeed. This is a song that I experienced but I don’t normally seek out and watch reactions on it because of these losses. Your reactions are appreciated so much. I think with Ren’s openness and honesty in this song and it’s deceptive simplicity people can experience it once or listen to many times. In my opinion there’s really nothing about it to criticize. The seriousness of this song in my mind is how he blames himself. In his situation most people would tell you not to blame yourself but it’s human nature to do just that. Most of us would blame ourselves and live with the guilt.

[@davidricks7128]

First time i watched Hi Ren i had a panic attack I have PTSD and many other mental and physical health issues but thought i needed to watch it again so i watched someone reacting to it that was the best thing i could do i have watched many times since. One thing i think about the Hi Ren and SUICIDE songs is it needs to be seen by every one even in schools, because how many children kill themselves because of the negativity towards them from nasty comments and bullying to them believing what is said. I went through hell, bullied all through school to the point i attempted suicide twice, if there was something in place for children at that time and even now how many Suicides could have been prevented. Both these songs open up conversations helping others to talk about what they are feeling. As for Ads on video's these songs are perfect for Ads on mental health awareness and help lines for those who need them

[@PrymalChaos]

Great idea! Next time I will definitely look into something like that if a difficult topic ever comes up. Thanks for watching!

[@music2seeconcertphotograph457]

I am suffering myself from double depression, chronical depersonalization, anxiety disorder and a chronic pain disorder. Suicide thoughts (but not plans) are a regular part of my life. In 2020 I lost a brother in mind and heart by suicide. I never had anyone I could have so much fun with and do stupid / crazy things. That's something I never do but with him it was possible. And we shared our dark side, told us about our demons. It still hurts as hell and just thinking about that one movement and what came next (he killed himself with a rope) makes me feel miserable and sad and empty. I can feel so much with what describes here. This hit so hard. This hit so deep! So honest. So true. So brutal. So painful: Emotionally and even physically.

[@mrdarengilbert3907]

Hey man, I just listened to this react for the second time (last night I had a few whisky’s) Now with a clearer mind, I realise there are some things I wish I said in my first comment. To be brief, just want to say, I notice your reactions are not targeted towards getting views, I feel this because you speak so truthfully how you feel, if it’s popular or not. You are wise mate, and your final words that carry a respect and concern for REN are so beautiful. 100% made me think on how we all want REN to explode into a household name…. But really, does he even want that? Would that be good for him…. He is so authentic and balanced now…… would super stardom spoil that…. ??? 20yrs ago I had some personal success and I wouldn’t want to have not had that time I learned so much back then, but I am still suffering the consequences of that to this day, some people can handle the highest highs and still be themselves but most I think, get lost there. Lost in the attention and the addictions Anyways, your reaction to this song is one of the best Take care man Daz

[@DianeLFC]

This was such a beautiful and thoughtful reaction. ❤

[@PrymalChaos]

Thanks Diane! Thanks for watching.

[@sicmuvva11]

You are right the call backs are to his track Sic Boi this album is named after. It is dropping on the 13th of Oct. the song is sort of the part 2 to Hi Ren but in hiphop/rap type style.

[@guitarmuscle6968]

Always like listening to your thoughts, another genuine reaction. Don't ever think you go on too much, your views are always insightful and interesting Sir. If you want to get to know Ren Better there are some excellent interviews on the channels of Black Pegasus, Knox Hill and Justin Hawkins all worth Watching.

[@kelby2000]

Your reactions are always the most insightful-thank you!

[@PrymalChaos]

My pleasure!! Thank you!

[@mariamakrynakis7586]

I think he meant it wasn't the right time because of what it would do to his loved ones

[@Myfairmaiden]

Resist the feeling when it hits ya, that line is lodged in my brain❤

[@lukaskraina]

brilliant take on music industry, i dont have any experience with tragedy on a scale like Ren, but its been a long time i heard anyone who connecting so much to me like him. Its not about music any more.

[@WitsEndGirl]

I really appreciate how you experience the music/video that you are reacting to. You are empathetic, eloquent and thoughtful. Ta for exploring a tough topic with sensitivity.

[@PrymalChaos]

I appreciate that, thank you!! This was a tough one to be honest, but I'm grateful that I got to share my take on it. What an enormously fantastic piece of art!

[@LuckyTigerr]

If think the "never really felt like the right time" could mean that it never really feels like the right time to talk to someone about their emotions and how you or they are feeling and that there never will be a time when that will come up in naturall conversation, but that it should be something that you do when you feel that you need to speak about it.

[@-Rambi-]

Prymal, just as a FYI. I think I've seen 30 of these now and you have the best views/like ratio of all of those. What you are doing is working, keep it up lad.

[@PrymalChaos]

Holy cow! Really! Thanks for watching! And for that little confidence booster. 🤗

[@badrasbury8171]

"It never really felt like the right time" could be the right time to talk to his friend this song is written about also.

[@PrymalChaos]

True!

[@mogsydog]

Thank you for reacting to this. Beautiful! Peace 🕊 💙

[@PrymalChaos]

My pleasure 😊

[@KittyInTheGarden]

Thank you. That was both intelligent and empathetic.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you! I appreciate you watching and for your kind words.

[@scottocallaghan4377]

Enjoyed your perspective brother. Thank you ✌️

[@PrymalChaos]

Much appreciated!

[@rile6295]

Clucking Bell!! Seen this amazing performance many times(damp-eyed), but your perceptions and observations are beautifully stated; kudos😊

[@PrymalChaos]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@patisan]

I loved everything you said in this video. You’re a great communicator and had my attention every step of the way. Loved this “reaction”, glad you got around to doing it.

[@PrymalChaos]

Thank you! I appreciate you watching!

[@alimac1469]

Wonderful broad intelligent discussion, thank you. For Joe is his follow up and was released this morning our Aussie time.

[@PrymalChaos]

Oh ok! Thanks for the heads up!

[@MalcolmMXTaylor]

one of the best reactions ive seen for this song!!! and you said you didnt have much to say...haha!! for anyone who has lost someone through natural causes or ending their own life they will find something in here they can relate to, and for anyone considering it then it will make them think again i hope. the ren community is just amazing i think with people of all ages there is someone anyone can talk to, thats the key here i think... just talk to someone and tomorrow can be a better day!

[@williambell6611]

Fuck that second half kills me every time. 😢

[@PrymalChaos]

It's quite an ordeal.

[@shirazzza]

Having lost people I get it, it's very raw & it reminds me of a particular mate. He now has been gone longer than I knew him & that's upsetting in itself. That was a very intense situation as I got to the house before the emergency responders. It was the last chunk of my childhood gone & fractured a whole group of mates.

[@PrymalChaos]

Hope you're doing Ok. ❤️

[@shirazzza]

@@PrymalChaos it's been a long rough like 5 years, the last 2 have been totally just cruel tbh. Losing friends to cancer is now overtaking the sui & drug overdoses & car crashes. It's horrible watching my friends waste away. Yeah there's been survivors but I'm rapidly becoming one of the few of the crew left & at 44 I'm not particularly thrilled about that ha. One day at a time

[@chucknorris5141]

Bawled my eyes out when I watched this. Difficult topics, but we need to open up the lines of communication to deal with them. He is great at this.

[@Codex7777]

"the lyrics man" he says, while talking over the lyrics, lol. A great reaction though! :)

[@sch7194]

Powerful...thank you Ren 🔥🙏🔥

[@jorice5528]

Beautiful, empathic & wise reaction to this “tough” one - big love to you ❤️

[@ethantodd4400]

Thanks for your time on this man ✊🏽

[@mldkenny]

Ren touches my heart and soul. I found your reaction so thoughtful, kind and obviously intelliegent and thank you for the breakdown and contribution to make it such a worthwhile listen and watch.

[@PrymalChaos]

Wow, thank you

[@sarahirwin8912]

To answer your question, my interpretation of "Never really felt like the right time" is a direct correlation to his own thoughts of suicide. He's wanted to, but it wasn't the right time. That's just my interpretation. If I'm right, I'm so thankful he didn't.

[@PrymalChaos]

Yeah that’s what I suspected too.

[@LHartman-gj7dl]

Great reaction, thanks man 🖤

[@PrymalChaos]

Glad you enjoyed

[@MsMegF]

The clips were from Sick Boi

[@tattsNcats]

a brilliant reaction, yet again! So authentic, so insightful - thank you for being you and being willing to share yourself with us. 🥰

[@Rob-bt3ev]

I always “enjoy” your reactions, although obviously in this case that is the wrong word but I appreciated your thoughtful articulation of this difficult topic.

[@PrymalChaos]

Haha. Yeah it still is a great compliment, in spite of the circumstances. Thanks for watching!